Sept. 19, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Wednesday 18th September, Anno Domini, 2024. | ||
| Hanwell here at the helm, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| We're going to go straight into the show now with Josh Hammer and talk about the presumed Israeli strike against Hezbollah. | ||
| In Lebanon, Josh. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| The first thing I'd like to say is that this is seems to be an astonishing feat. | ||
| Obviously there are wider strategical interests, and it was expected for some time, right, that Israel was going to make a move on Lebanese territory against Hezbollah. | ||
| But I don't think anybody had in mind an operation of this type of sophistication. | ||
| Obviously, you know, we're going to drill down on this for the posse to explain exactly what's happened yesterday and what happened today. | ||
| There's been further explosions noted at a specific funeral for three of these victims. | ||
| Before I ask you just to start unwrapping this, my hesitation, as an international correspondent myself, my hesitation is that this is such a feat, an accomplishment on behalf of presumably Mossad, right, the IDF working together, but such a technically perfect strike. | ||
| It's possible that the analysis and this It seems to be the case from what I've been studying over the last 25 hours. | ||
| The analysis seems to be being sucked into the vacuum of what an amazing feat this was. | ||
| I mean, after, as you were pointing out to me earlier on today, after the humiliation for the Israeli security services after October the 7th, a strike of this brilliance seems to be dominating the narrative rather than, I think, what this might mean. | ||
| As part of the wider, if I use the words, war. | ||
| But first off, Josh, good morning to you. | ||
| Tell me, what exactly happened here? | ||
| There are some sort of 3,000 pages primed to explode at the Israeli's command. | ||
| Do we know yet how this took place? | ||
| Was it an overloading of the lithium batteries or were there explosives placed into each and every device? | ||
| And if so, how did they actually go about doing that on a technical basis? | ||
| So Ben, always great to join you. | ||
| So I guess let's start with the tactics and then we can kind of move towards strategy and geopolitics and all of that. | ||
| So, I mean, this is an astonishing operation. | ||
| I mean, we should not mince words here. | ||
| This is a Remarkably sophisticated spy agency operation. | ||
| As one of my friends, who actually himself formerly worked for the CIA, told me yesterday, he said that this is the kind of thing that spy agencies around the world will be studying 20 years from now, as to how exactly this happened. | ||
| The details of which we do not exactly know. | ||
| Yesterday, it seemed like we thought that there was an explosive An explosive powder called PETN that was essentially smuggled into the roughly 4,000 to 5,000 Hezbollah pagers, likely in the warehouse before they were actually shipped out there, which if true, I guess regardless of the means, regardless, we presume it's Israel, of course, Mossad, IDF, they had access to the Iran Hezbollah supply chain every which way. | ||
| So they had the intel to know that Hezbollah was switching to these pagers, which humorously enough, Hezbollah was switching to these pagers Because they thought that this was their way of evading the Mossad-Israeli dragnet. | ||
| They thought that if they didn't have two-way cell phone communication, then their location, their plans, and so forth, would actually be harder to pick up. | ||
| That was actually kind of funny enough why they switched to the pagers in the first place. | ||
| Obviously, that bet did not pay off particularly well for them. | ||
| But Israel apparently had access to the pagers every which way of the supply chain, when it got to the warehouse, when it was disseminated. | ||
| And you know, an under-discussed brilliant element of this, Ben, Talk about four to 5,000 pagers essentially detonating en masse. | ||
| Effectively, what it seems like Mossad did was they sent out a mass message to all of the Hezbollah operatives. | ||
| Therefore, they all checked their pager. | ||
| When they checked it, it exploded. | ||
| But the fact that this all happened, it gave them a snapshot in time where they actually saw the lights pop up on a map. | ||
| So you could actually see where Hezbollah is. | ||
| I mean, there's no better intelligence than that. | ||
| You literally see, based on which pagers are exploding, Who is where? | ||
| All throughout Lebanon, all throughout Syria, perhaps a little bit in Jordan as well, but primarily those two countries. | ||
| And then today you had the two-way walkie-talkies exploding as well. | ||
| So that is why we think maybe it wasn't the PETN, maybe it was these lithium batteries exploding. | ||
| But regardless of what the actual means was, it's an astonishing coup for Mossad, as you alluded to, as the kind of thing they desperately needed to try to regain their credibility and their reputation coming up on a year after the October 7th massacre. | ||
| So it's a huge tactical victory for Mossad and for Israel. | ||
| I guess the broader question, of course, is what it means for strategy and geopolitics. | ||
| And also, I suppose, for Netanyahu's domestic position right now. | ||
| If it was the lithium batteries being overloaded, what does it say about the origins of this speculation, this story, which seems to be quite detailed? | ||
| And in its analysis that this was via Hungary and I think Taiwanese with a Taiwanese branded pages, a Taiwanese company. | ||
| If that's just sheer cover, where does that story come? | ||
| I mean, I asked the question half knowing the answer, but where does that story come from and how come it has settled in so well and so quickly? | ||
| Well, look, I mean, anytime you're blaming a place like Taiwan, I mean, I think we know exactly where that sort of story is coming from. | ||
| I mean, that's that's clearly coming from China. | ||
| You know, I mean, there was there was a rumored discovery. | ||
| So there were you know, there's a thing called the Philadelphia Corridor. | ||
| So switching, I guess, from the Hezbollah front to the Hamas front just for a second here. | ||
| There's a thing called the Philadelphia Corridor. | ||
| Which is the Egyptian-Gaza border. | ||
| It's just south of Rafah, which is Hamas's southernmost stronghold in Gaza. | ||
| And one of Netanyahu's war aims, he's actually battling on this front with many in the IDF leadership who disagree with him, but one of Netanyahu's announced war aims is that Israel cannot any longer cease control of the Philadelphia Corridor. | ||
| In other words, they have to know exactly what Egypt is trying to smuggle in or jihadists are trying to smuggle in via Egypt into Gaza and so forth. | ||
| I say all that as context because it was about two to three months ago or so that Israeli intelligence and the military apparently found some Chinese remnants there in the corridor. | ||
| Put another way, there was some physical evidence left behind from the PLA, from the People's Liberation Army, | ||
| that they were actually involved there in assisting Hamas, which should not be a shocker | ||
| because China has taken massive steps over the past few years | ||
| to actually distance itself from Israel. | ||
| Some people think that China might be a little piqued, they might be hurt because Israel refused to work with | ||
| China to build their mass port in Haifa, | ||
| one of Israel's more important maritime ports on the Mediterranean. | ||
| So China has kind of gone all in over the past three to four years for the Palestinian cause, | ||
| for the broader anti-Israel cause. | ||
| They actually hosted a Palestinian Authority Hamas rapprochement of sorts in Beijing | ||
| You had Hamas and Mahmoud Abbas from the PLO basically side by side there. | ||
| So when you put all that in context, then it makes a lot of sense | ||
| that China is going to take the side of Hezbollah and start blaming China's own arch rival there, | ||
| Taiwan as well, in a story like this. | ||
| Again, we don't actually know for sure whether or not it was lithium batteries | ||
| or this PETN, explosive powdery substance. | ||
| We don't know the exact means yet, but it is a huge coup for Israel, | ||
| whether they were working in tandem with other countries or working on their own. | ||
| And frankly, it's exactly the kind of morale boost that they need right now. | ||
| It was only a handful of days ago that the Houthis in Yemen successfully shot | ||
| a surface-to-surface missile that landed right near Ben Gurion Airport in central Israel. | ||
| Thank God no one was killed by that. | ||
| But Israel is looking pretty vulnerable right now. | ||
| You know, we shouldn't lie about that. | ||
| I mean, there is unprecedented in modern times jihadist activity all throughout Judea and Samaria, the West Bank and cities like Nablus, Jenin, various other terrorist strongholds. | ||
| This is a serious, serious multi-front war. | ||
| And for Israel to pull off a massive coup like this is just a massive morale boost for the Israeli people and also a political victory, as you said, for Netanyahu himself. | ||
| If it's a question that the lithium batteries that the Israelis have discovered a way of super overcharging these batteries in a very short time to make them explode, that has national security implications for every other nation on the planet, right? | ||
| You would think so. | ||
| Because it means that everyone who's carrying a smartphone, presumably not only a smartphone, if they can do this to pages, if they can do this to walkie-talkies, then anyone with a lithium battery device that they carry on their person is carrying potentially a small explosive device. | ||
| All our world leaders, all of our legislators, anyone on an aeroplane, this has massive implications. | ||
| And there's a crucial, I think, public policy takeaway from that, Ben, if it indeed is in fact lithium batteries, not this explosive substance. | ||
| For what it's worth, my own personal predictions, I actually do think it probably was just Mossad getting access to a warehouse, putting substance in. | ||
| But you're right, if it is lithium batteries, then that does have sprawling implications. | ||
| I'll tell you what my number one public policy takeaway from that is, if that is corroborated to be true. | ||
| Which is supply chain integrity, and you have to know exactly what is going into your products at every single level of the supply chain. | ||
| Put another way, if it actually ends up being lithium batteries, and it could be, especially given the fact that earlier today we saw non-pager devices, these two-way walkie-talkies, so we definitely cannot rule out the possibility that it was lithium batteries. | ||
| You know, what that means to me as an American, as someone who opposes globalism and wants to see a more robust economic nationalism, is that We need to double, triple, quadruple, quintuple and so forth down on getting our goods and every element, the inputs of the supply chain away from countries just like China, away from countries that do not share our geopolitical interests, against those countries that wish us harm. | ||
| You know, it really ought to make economic policymakers in Washington, D.C. | ||
| and in other Western capitals all throughout the world. | ||
| to feel all that more motivated to extricate themselves from this failed entanglement, | ||
| this dancing with the devil, if you will, this false economic ties with China ever since really | ||
| Deng Xiaoping in the late 1970s, but especially since China's ascension to the World Trade | ||
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Organization in the early 2000s. I'm sure finally in the last two minutes. | |
| Could you just tell me, if you would, just go down and break down a little bit more about Bibi Netanyahu's position now. | ||
| Strengthened, but for how long? | ||
| So, Bibi is in an interesting position, I guess you would say, for lack of a better term there. | ||
| So, he was looking pretty precarious in the polling in the first two to three months or so after October 7th, as makes sense. | ||
| This is an unprecedented tragedy that happened under his watch there. | ||
| But he did fairly quickly regain his stature in the polling after that for the very simple reason that after that kind of initial knee-jerk reaction, I think the Israeli people basically looked at the other options and they said, OK. | ||
| I mean, I think we're basically stuck with him for better or for worse. | ||
| There's really no better option out there. | ||
| And, you know, the Israeli left, Ben, has been utterly decimated politically in Israel over the past 15, 20 years. | ||
| There really is no Israeli left, actually. | ||
| You know, the Labor Party Was once the founding party of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, the first prime minister. | ||
| Labor controlled the country for the first roughly three decades of Israel's existence. | ||
| Ever since the failures of the Land for Peace agreements, the second Intifada, ever since 2000, 2005 and Yasser Arafat and all of that evil, the Israeli left has been utterly decimated. | ||
| Labor has low single digit seats currently in the Knesset. | ||
| Last I checked, there are total non-factors. | ||
| So there's really no other game in town. | ||
| And Netanyahu also doesn't really have any particularly viable figures on the right who might challenge him for that leadership as well. | ||
| So he really is the guy right now. | ||
| And that is a problem for Israel insofar as he's been there for a long time. | ||
| He's in his 70s. | ||
| They really ultimately do need someone to be groomed to succeed him. | ||
| But you know, if I were a Netanyahu political advisor or something along those lines, I would feel pretty confident about my position right now. | ||
| I don't think that he's going anywhere anytime particularly soon. | ||
| He's having a bit of an issue right now with his defense minister, Yoav Galant. | ||
| We'll see the way that that plays out. | ||
| But ultimately, Netanyahu does still call the shots, and he ultimately does still have the favorability of a majority of the Israeli public. | ||
| Sadly, very sadly, that is all we have time for, Josh. | ||
| Had we more time, I'd ask you whether you believe the statements that Israel hadn't communicated this operation to the US beforehand, and then only briefed afterwards, whether you believe that, and if you do believe that, what You deduce that means for the U.S.-Israel relationship, but there's no time to ask you that. | ||
| Josh, where do people go to keep up with your superb writings that Newsweek and your podcast? | ||
| Yeah, thank you so much, Ben. | ||
| So I host two shows, The Josh Hammer Show and America on Trial with Josh Hammer. | ||
| I'm also a senior counsel at the Article 3 Project, article3project.org. | ||
| You can follow me on X, Josh underscore Hammer. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Josh, many thanks for coming on the show. | ||
| We'll catch up again with you soon. | ||
| Always a pleasure, Ben. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| God bless. | ||
| Thanks, Josh. | ||
| So just moving now directly on to the aforementioned U.S. | ||
| election. | ||
| I'm joined now with Bill McGinley. | ||
| Bill, good evening to you. | ||
| Can you tell me a little bit now, as we're definitely into the final two months of this race, tell me, if you wouldn't mind, give me an update on how the elections are going, specifically with a view, because I know this is something that's very close to your heart, to do with the volunteering aspects. | ||
| And how important it is for folk to get involved, not only for the get out the vote aspect, but also for the election integrity aspect too. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Great to be with you, Ben. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| One of the things that Steve and I would always like to talk about and that I've been talking about on the appearances coming up to this is really how important the posse is and the role that they play, both in terms of election integrity, for signing up to be poll watchers, receive the trainings, getting shifted, making sure that you follow through on those shifts, And basically be an eyes and ears in the polling places and wherever else the party needs you and President Trump's campaign needs you. | ||
| But, you know, you ask where we are with the election. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| We're less than 50 days out and the election has begun in many states. | ||
| A lot of requests for absentee ballots are starting to come in. | ||
| And in some instances this week, we may see some ballots being mailed out to voters. | ||
| So the time's up. | ||
| People need to engage in this, really kind of take ownership of this election, because President Trump and JD Vance, they can't do it all themselves. | ||
| They really need your help. | ||
| And one of the things that we always talk about is really kind of the pervasiveness And how much dark money the Dems have in terms of funding their operations, whether it's opposition research, it's messaging, get out the vote, any of the other important aspects of elections, they've got a whole constellation. | ||
| of C4s and C3s that don't disclose their donors that shift a lot of money between these various groups and put it down into the battleground states to try and turn out those voters that they think are going to support Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. | ||
| And so this is where the volunteers really make the difference. | ||
| And the great equalizer in this election will be the volunteer army. | ||
| That the Trump campaign and the Republican Party can put together to help the candidates up and down the ballot. | ||
| And so really the checklist for everybody is as follows. | ||
| Number one, make sure that your registration is up to date, current, and satisfies law. | ||
| Take ownership of your registration, take the time to verify it, and make sure that you have satisfied all the requirements and that you are on the voter rolls as an eligible legal voter. | ||
| Number two, make sure that at least 10 to 15 of your family, friends and neighbors are doing the same thing to make sure that their voter registrations are up to date, satisfy law so that they can cast their ballot. | ||
| Number three, you've got to contact these people and urge them to vote early. | ||
| Every state's voting laws are different, so you're going to want to go to SwampTheVoteUSA.com. | ||
| Once again, that's SwampTheVoteUSA.com. | ||
| There's a useful tool there that's going to help you determine the most convenient way for you to vote. | ||
| Now, after the events of the past couple of months and how many twists and turns we've had, I don't think we need to express to everybody how important it is for you to get your ballots in early. | ||
| Don't wait until Election Day if you have an opportunity to cast your ballot early. | ||
| God knows what's going to happen, whether it's a weather storm, a business trip that you suddenly get called on, something comes up with the family. | ||
| Don't wait until the last minute. | ||
| Find a way, find a way to vote that you have faith in. | ||
| Find a way to vote that is early so you can bank your vote for President Trump and J.D. | ||
| Vance and all of the Republicans up and down the ticket and get it in. | ||
| The other thing is go to protectthevote.com. | ||
| If you are in a battleground state, and we've talked about these many times, from Nevada to Arizona to Wisconsin to Michigan to Pennsylvania to Virginia to North Carolina down to Georgia and the other congressional battleground states or senatorial battleground states like Montana, California, New York, And others, please go there and sign up to be a volunteer poll watcher. | ||
| We can't do it without your help. | ||
| We need responsible, intelligent people, which I know the posse is, who can exercise good judgment to be our eyes and ears in the polling place, but also to basically help us make sure that all of the laws and rules are being followed. | ||
| So that at the end of this, when President Trump and J.D. Vance are elected, everybody | ||
| can have faith in the process and confidence in the result, and we can beat back the attacks | ||
| that we know are coming from the Democrats. | ||
| If you look at all of the rhetoric that they have launched at President Trump, we need | ||
| to do what he's been saying all along, which is make the margin of victory too big to rig. | ||
| Bill, are you satisfied with the way these things are going, specifically with regards | ||
| to registering GOP-likely voters to vote? | ||
| Are you satisfied with where we are 50 days away? | ||
| Yeah, we've seen a lot of significant gains toward the Republican side based upon the energy and enthusiasm for President Trump and JD Vance. | ||
| But I'm a big college football fan. | ||
| One of my heroes is one of the greatest college football. | ||
| And you talk about what your potential is, but you also talk about where you are right now. | ||
| The difference there is called the capability gap. | ||
| And so I'm never happy. | ||
| The only way that I'm going to be happy is if we get more people to register to vote for President Trump and J.D. | ||
| Vance and then to cast their ballots for them. | ||
| If we are able to win, I'll be happy. | ||
| But until that day, I'm never going to be happy. | ||
| And we need to press, press, press. | ||
| We need to make sure that we are getting, be a force multiplier, that not only are you taking care of your own registration, think of it in the ways that when you get on an airplane, Put your oxygen masks on first before you put it on somebody else. | ||
| Make sure your voter registration is taken care of. | ||
| Then go out and start talking to your friends, families, and neighbors to make sure that they're doing the same thing. | ||
| And so if you want to ask me, am I satisfied? | ||
| I know we've made a lot of progress, a lot of progress. | ||
| But I'm not going to be satisfied until we win this election. | ||
| And we win it in a transparent, a fair, and secure way. | ||
| And so that's why it's incumbent upon all of us to do our part, make the sacrifice of an hour or two a week. | ||
| And if you don't live in a battleground state, but you know people who do live in states like Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and the others, call them. | ||
| And make them a force multiplier. | ||
| Activate them to try and be a force for change because this election is way too important for people to sit on the sidelines. | ||
| Bill, I just want to synthesize your three points there. | ||
| It was to make sure that you get yourself on the electoral roll, that you register to vote if you haven't already done so, that you get your friends and family to do so as well. | ||
| Only if they're Republican voters, right? | ||
| And then to sort out early voting, not only starting with yourself, and then your Republican voting friends and family. | ||
| And you gave out two websites as well, which I'll just quickly mention again. | ||
| It was protectthevote.com. | ||
| And SwampTheVoteUSA.com. | ||
| And Ben, can I give you a third website to be basically a precinct captain? | ||
| TrumpForce47.com So if you're not in a battleground state or you are in a battleground state, sign up to be a precinct leader. | ||
| Help train volunteers. | ||
| Be that force multiplier to help deliver victory on November 5th. | ||
| This is your election. | ||
| It's nobody else's. | ||
| And you need to take control not only of your voting activities, but you need to persuade those people. | ||
| Register and get out and vote. | ||
| Bill, ten seconds. | ||
| Where do people go on social media to keep up with you? | ||
| On X, I am at W.J. | ||
| McGinley, and on Getter, I'm at McGinley W.J. | ||
| Bill McGinley, thanks very much for coming on the show. | ||
| Patrick McGill with you soon. | ||
| God bless. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| So now, 100,000 Arizonans who have registered to vote over the past 20 years, mistakenly | ||
| because they were considered to have provided proof of citizenship due to a quirk in the | ||
| motor vehicle department system, has come to light. | ||
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I'm. | |
| And obviously, that's what we're talking about a lot of a lot of people here. | ||
| Who better to dig down on what this means than Gina Swoboda, chair of the Arizona GOP. | ||
| Gina, good evening to you. | ||
| I was particularly... Look, there are a number of things to get into on this. | ||
| I don't understand, however, if you just start with this, if you wouldn't mind. | ||
| Arizona voters who can't provide proof of citizenship are only permitted to vote in federal elections, thanks to a 2013 Supreme Court judgment. | ||
| I don't get that. | ||
| If you can't prove your citizenship. | ||
| Why are you allowed to vote in any election, let alone a presidential election? | ||
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I agree with you. | |
| Thank you for having me back. | ||
| So Justice Scalia wrote the opinion in that Supreme Court case that's inter-tribal counsel, for those that want to go search it on Bing. | ||
| And essentially, Congress created The Elections Assistance Commission, and they created a federal voter registration form. | ||
| And when they did that, it precluded the states under the supremacy clause of the Constitution, right? | ||
| Once the federal government, you know, takes a lane, we can't obviate what they do. | ||
| So once they created their own registration form, And the only requirement for proof of citizenship on that federal form is that little checkbox that says, yes, I'm a citizen, right? | ||
| So, in Arizona, we passed a law, the people did it directly on the ballot, and we said, you must have proof of citizenship to register. | ||
| We did that in 2004. | ||
| And then we got sued. | ||
| And then we went to SCOTUS. | ||
| And Justice Scalia said, OK, Arizona, if someone uses the state of Arizona's voter registration form and they don't give you proof of citizenship, you can totally reject them. | ||
| They don't get registered at all. | ||
| But if someone uses this federal form that Congress created, Under the Supremacy Clause, you don't have the right to say no to that form, so you're going to have to register those people. | ||
| But since the states get to decide who votes in state elections, You can just make them federal only and they can only vote in federal elections. | ||
| And we tried for 20 years almost to fix it, to ask the EAC, please put a footnote that says in Arizona on this federal reform, you have to give citizenship and they won't do it. | ||
| So then we passed our law that said, all right, well, voting by mail, we get to decide how you vote. | ||
| So let's try to add it to voting by mail citizenship. | ||
| Let's try to add it for president. | ||
| The Constitution says the states decide how the electors are selected, right? | ||
| We don't have national popular vote, thank God, or we'd get outvoted by L.A. | ||
| and, you know, New York. | ||
| We have an electoral college for president, so we get to choose that. | ||
| That's what's sitting in front of the Ninth Circuit right now, is us trying to say, for president to vote by mail, you have to have citizenship, but we're not going to make it to SCOTUS in time for this election. | ||
| So that's how we got here. | ||
| Okay, so tell me about this 98,000, right? | ||
| These are people who have registered to vote statewide on the basis that... | ||
| Thanks to it was a 1996 ruling in Arizona that applications for driving licenses, driving licenses needed to have, you need to be able to prove your citizenship in order to get that ID. | ||
| And then a number of these driving licenses obviously have been renewed and somehow, we'll assume accidentally, those who'd registered Before the 96 ruling, that is to say, they first had their driving licence without having provided previous citizenship. | ||
| They found their way on to the voting lists. | ||
| And you're fighting here to keep them on. | ||
| And that's a bit counterintuitive. | ||
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I am. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| I know it is. | ||
| So when we start with the premise that no matter what happens with these 98,000 people, they're going to get a federal only ballot either way, okay? | ||
| So right now, motor vehicle, when these people updated their driver's license, so let's say the issue date on your driver's license was 2011. | ||
| The motor vehicle then, you know, was like, oh, this is someone who does not need proof of citizenship. | ||
| So if they registered to vote and their license was originally before 96, but they changed their address or they did something to it, and then they registered to vote after 2004, it made them the full ballot. | ||
| So like we just talked about, if you registered after 2004 in Arizona, you should have presented documented proof of citizenship. | ||
| Instead the system said, oh it's okay, this person's good. | ||
| So now here as we sit here... Gina, can I just cut in to clarify here, because the consequence of that 96 law in Arizona is that if you have a driving license dated post-1996, that is in and of itself now proof of citizenship. | ||
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Correct. | |
| If you do not provide proof of citizenship when you get a driver's license in Arizona post-96, you're an F. F-like. | ||
| You're an F-type driver's license. | ||
| But anyone before didn't have that. | ||
| That didn't exist. | ||
| So now we have these people. | ||
| So here we are. | ||
| It's 21 days till we start early voting in Arizona. | ||
| The military ballots go out Thursday. | ||
| Our civilians overseas. | ||
| So we're going to start voting essentially on Thursday in Arizona. | ||
| And they just came to us yesterday, the governor's office and the secretary of state, and said, hey, we found this glitch. | ||
| We have 98,000 people. | ||
| Right now they're getting a full ballot. | ||
| They've always gotten a full ballot. | ||
| We've never asked them for any information. | ||
| They don't know. | ||
| As we're talking to each other, these people have no idea anything's wrong, right? | ||
| No matter what we do, they're still going to get to vote in the presidential, senatorial and congressional races. | ||
| The question is, do we want to take these? | ||
| And of these people, I have my little note here, 36,000 are Republicans. | ||
| So the majority of them are Republicans between the ages of 40 and 60, give or take. | ||
| And they've been voting a full ballot all this time. | ||
| Do we want to deprive all these 98,000 people from voting in the legislative races or the ballot measures? | ||
| I've got ranked choice voting and a constitutional abortion amendment. | ||
| I need these people to vote. | ||
| I have a one-vote majority in each house in my legislature. | ||
| I do not want 36,000 Republicans to have to go find their safety deposit box with their information and bring it in. | ||
| And most importantly, We're not going to get to them in time. | ||
| What would happen is we have to mail them a postcard from the recorder, and then they've got to find it, and then they've got to come in. | ||
| A lot of these people are probably on the mail ballot list. | ||
| We'll just lose votes, is what's going to happen. | ||
| And we're too close. | ||
| In that NVRA mode of voter law, you're not supposed to do routine voter list cleanup within 90 days of the election, because you're not supposed to confuse the voters. | ||
| So I want it done properly. | ||
| I am a fierce, fierce advocate for cleaning up the voter rolls. | ||
| This is why. | ||
| This is why we filed suits to try to get this stuff done. | ||
| We ran out of time because people ran the clock on us. | ||
| And as we're sitting here, I've got 100,000 people that don't have the right documentation. | ||
| Either way, they're going to get to vote in the federal race. | ||
| So when that's my baseline for making a decision, my decision is to keep these 36,000 Republicans in the state of Arizona eligible to vote no on ranked choice voting, hopefully, and no on the abortion amendment, hopefully, and keep my legislature. | ||
| So that's what we're going to do. | ||
| It's important, I think, to point out because of the time period here we're talking about specifically of being pre 1996 obtainers of the old form of the driving license without the proof of citizenship that have now been reviewed. | ||
| So one can assume, because we're talking about sort of nearly 30 years ago, that the majority of these people are legitimate U.S. | ||
| citizens. | ||
| It's only fact that they haven't Physically, proactively provided that proof when they when they registered for their driving license. | ||
| But it's absolutely genius, absolutely astonishing to me that you have a whole state, a whole state as large as Arizona with all the apparatus and all the people working for it. | ||
| It absolutely astonishes me that you can have an oversight of this nature, that you can register to vote on the basis of a driving license. | ||
| Because, you know, because, you know, it's been grandfathered in, if you will. | ||
| There might never have been at any point the demonstration of citizenship behind that. | ||
| And yet you have registered, yet you're on the registered voting rolls. | ||
| And that, you know, It's now, as you say, sort of less than two months away from the election and people are waking up to this now. | ||
| It's an astonishing, especially after 2020, with all of the attention on voter integrity. | ||
| It seems like, you know, what Axios calls a quirk here. | ||
| I have no idea how it's difficult to maintain a sense of trust and good faith. | ||
| Isn't that the first thing you would check? | ||
| Gina, sadly, that is all we have time for. | ||
| Very quickly, where do people go to help with the campaign to find out, to follow your advice on social media? | ||
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Yeah, please go to at AZGOP on Twitter, go to azgop.com. | |
| I'm filing an amicus brief today to make sure I don't lose 36,000 Republican votes against ranked choice voting and against the constitutional abortion amendment. | ||
| So you can hit me at azgop.com forward slash donate and all the litigation that we did and we're going to continue to fight. | ||
| To make sure these roles are clean. | ||
| And it's most important to do this in the off year, right? | ||
| So when I get past November 5th, we're going to start filing everything again in advance of the next cycle, because we have to clean it up and we have to do it now. | ||
| Transparency is the only way. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Gina Svoboda, thanks very much for coming on the show once again today. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Catch up again with you soon. | ||
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God bless. | |
| Well, my final guest now, Ryan Walters, the state education superintendent for the state of Oklahoma. | ||
| Ryan, good evening to you. | ||
| When you last came on the show to talk about the maneuver to have the Ten Commandments and biblical instruction mandatory in all state classes, I have to say my own personal social media account has never blown up as much of people supporting you. | ||
| And lo and behold, A month later, it's clear that you've been making all the right enemies, because of course the regime won't take those successes lying down, and you are now. | ||
| Look, I say this, I'm not going to talk about me, but I've just come out of five years of being criminally charged here in Italy, three separate cases, and I was eventually vindicated on all of them. | ||
| So I know what it's like to be the subject of political prosecutions. | ||
| Tell me about what's going on with you down in Oklahoma then. | ||
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Well, thank you again for having me on and happy to give everyone an update. | |
| But, you know, we made a stand here in Oklahoma. | ||
| We're going to put the Bible back in the classroom. | ||
| You know, our kids deserve to know our history. | ||
| They deserve to know the influence the Bible had, the Ten Commandments had, in not only America, but in Western civilization. | ||
| And we're going to put the Bible back in every classroom. | ||
| Well, very quickly after that, we see attacks from the National Teachers Union. | ||
| And then we begin to see even some Republicans, our Speaker of the House here in Oklahoma, | ||
| named Charles McCaul, begins to launch an impeachment attack on me | ||
| to try to claim all of these charges and all of these issues with me that are just nonsensical. | ||
| So frankly, then I went out publicly and said, hey, if you want to impeach me, go ahead and do it. | ||
| Let's put it all out on the table because there's nothing there. | ||
| What you are trying to do is use lawfare, use intimidation to try to back me off of the positions that Oklahomans hold, most Americans hold. | ||
| And again, we've got a lot of folks, frankly, even in our own party that talk the talk, but don't walk the walk. | ||
| And here's what we're doing here in Oklahoma. | ||
| We are walking the walk. | ||
| We will bring the Bible back to the classroom. | ||
| We will bring back an understanding of American exceptionalism. | ||
| We will not bow to a woke mob or to the left or to their Outstanding. | ||
| Tell me, can you tell me a bit about these suggestions that you're somehow involved in the misuse of, I gather there's a grand jury now, misuse of COVID relief funds? | ||
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Yeah, look, I mean, our local media has put a lot of misinformation out there around that. | |
| There's an issue there that we dealt with years ago that, again, I've been cleared of any kind of issue or any kind of problem there with that. | ||
| But again, you begin to see our local media try to pick back up on these things to try to regenerate headlines and issues. | ||
| And here's the reality. | ||
| We have continued to bring conservative values into government. | ||
| We've continued to defend parents. | ||
| We've continued to push The Radical Teachers Union out of the classroom. | ||
| And again, every week, I've got a new headline I'm dealing with from our left-wing statist media here in Oklahoma. | ||
| And we're going to continue to fight through it. | ||
| We're going to continue to let Oklahomans see we run the most transparent administration in state history. | ||
| We have been very clear about everything that's going on. | ||
| We have provided the type of change that people have demanded in government. | ||
| They want transparency, accountability, and they want to see conservative values in action. | ||
| That's what we're bringing to the people of Oklahoma. | ||
| And frankly, we're leading the country And doing things like bringing the Bible back to the classroom, school choice, merit pay, and a true understanding of our history. | ||
| And again, I believe we're going to continue to be the greatest country in the history of the world. | ||
| We have to teach our history. | ||
| Our kids have to know what makes us exceptional. | ||
| How do we fight out of this? | ||
| And again, when you see Kamala Harris and you see Tim Walz, they're the opposite of that. | ||
| They want kids to be ashamed of their country, ashamed of our history. | ||
| They want them to hate this country. | ||
| We have to continue to fight back against that because here's the reality. | ||
| You create a generation that hates this country, America will cease to be America. | ||
| We will not be that country that leads the free world. | ||
| And so this is an existential threat that we're facing here. | ||
| And so we have to push back against this agenda. | ||
| We've got to get President Trump back in the White House, and we've got to make sure that his agenda is carried out in the states. | ||
| You know, it's almost the case, looking at the legal challenges brought against President Trump and against Steve Bannon and against Rudy Giuliani and against Peter Navarro and against yourself, it's almost the case that any America First politician presenting themselves to the election These are the battle scars. | ||
| This is a sign of the authenticity that you are actually fighting the regime and making some headway. | ||
| If a GOP candidate were to present themselves—I think we're now at this situation—but to present themselves and say, oh, I'm America First this, you know, I'm MAGA that, and they have no charges against them, I think it's It's reasonable for the GOP to say, well, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Show us your battle scars. | ||
| Show us the charges and the criminal cases that you've faced down. | ||
| Then we'll believe that you really are on our side and you're going to do something. | ||
| Otherwise, you know, it's just another politician who's going to, as you say, talk the talk without walking the walk. | ||
| Tell me briefly then about Oklahoma. | ||
| Are the Bibles in the classrooms right now, or is that yet to take place? | ||
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Yeah, the mandate's in place. | |
| So right now what we're doing is we're making sure that Bibles are getting in the classrooms, districts are presenting them, we've given out guidelines on how to teach from the Bible, its historical context, when it needs to be included in the classroom. | ||
| So again, we're making sure when you talk about the Pilgrims, you talk about American exceptionalism, you talk about Martin Luther King Jr., Abraham Lincoln, You talk about these moments in American history. | ||
| You're going to refer to the Bible. | ||
| You're going to refer to their faith. | ||
| You're going to refer to the role that Christianity played in America. | ||
| And again, frankly, to do otherwise is academic malpractice. | ||
| You've got to have it in the classroom. | ||
| So that's what we're doing right now is making sure that that is being implemented. | ||
| So we are getting it in the classrooms right now. | ||
| We are seeing that in real time here in Oklahoma. | ||
| And again, to your point, We are at a stage now where the left, they lose elections, so they try to rig the elections, right? | ||
| Then they don't get their policy agenda, so they try everything they can to undermine President Trump and his administration. | ||
| Then what do they result to? | ||
| Lawfare. | ||
| They use the law, the legal system against you. | ||
| And to your point, any MAGA politician, they're gonna do the same thing to you. | ||
| They're gonna try to stop you through the courts. | ||
| Then lastly, they have even gone as far to go physical violence. | ||
| They want to kill President Trump. | ||
| Their goal is to kill the Constitution. | ||
| By killing President Trump. | ||
| They know that he is the person who is going to protect your rights. | ||
| He is the person who's going to fight for you against the elites. | ||
| So they want him dead. | ||
| And it is sick that we have reached this point in our society where the radical left will go to those means to destroy your rights, to destroy your country, to destroy the exceptional America that we know it to be by killing President Trump. | ||
| So I want to be really clear. | ||
| They are trying to kill this country. | ||
| That is absolutely an outstanding analysis. | ||
| I agree 100%. | ||
| If I just quickly put a bid in, seeing as you are the education superintendent for the state of Oklahoma. | ||
| Not only history, I think the Bible is not only relevant in terms of history, but also future history as well. | ||
| The book of Revelation, the apocalypse, future history, right? | ||
| Many people, I included myself in that, can see some of these things taking place in our present age. | ||
| Where do people go if they want to support you, find out more, keep up with your activities in Oklahoma, support your campaigns, perhaps even, I don't know if you need anything for your legal funds, where do people go to follow you and to support what you're doing? | ||
| Because it is absolutely outstanding. | ||
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Well, I sure appreciate it. | |
| My Twitter is Ryan Walters, S-U-P-T. | ||
| So Ryan Walters, superintendent at Twitter. | ||
| Very active on there. | ||
| We try to keep folks updated as best we can there. | ||
| And my website's RyanWaltersForOklahoma.com. | ||
| We try to post there to make sure people know what's going on. | ||
| And I appreciate you, appreciate your fight for this country and for Western civilization. | ||
| Thank you for having me on. | ||
| Ryan Walters, state superintendent for education in Oklahoma. | ||
| Thanks very much for coming on the show. | ||
| Warren Posse, thank you very much for following today. | ||
| Give a shout out, as I always do. | ||
| I didn't forget that. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| For those following us on live chat. | ||
| Warren will be back at 10am tomorrow. | ||
| God bless for now. | ||
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