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Sept. 6, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3885: Debate Prep And Updates From Washington/Michigan
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peter navarro
29:28
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dave brat
02:56
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joe kent
04:03
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kamala harris
01:36
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jake tapper
00:08
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steve bannon
00:15
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tulsi gabbard
00:38
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
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Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
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The people have had a belly full of it.
peter navarro
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
peter navarro
Peter K. Navarro here in the War Room for Stephen K. Banner.
We've got a hot show.
The lead-off segment here, what I'm going to do is take you into a fake debate prep room and give you kind of my rendition of the Trump debate preparation that's for the, I guess, the Thrilla in Manila sequel.
The big debate on ABC.
There'll be some...
Big reveals in this.
We've got at the bottom of this hour, an old buddy of mine from the Trump administration, former congressman.
And during the Trump administration, he was the ambassador to the Netherlands, Pete Hoekstra.
And he's going to unpack what's going on with the Michigan Republican Party and hopefully assure us that they are going to have the best get out the votes Operation you've ever seen you saw the news.
Hunter Biden pleaded guilty.
This would be his second major set of felonies.
He's pleaded guilty do what's the over under on him going to prison?
Well, Steve Bannon.
Sits in prison for a misdemeanor and I spent four months in the slammer.
My bet is on a pardon after the election from Papa Biden despite his promises To the contrary, that's justice, my friends in America.
You can let grandmothers go to prison and crack addicts, sex traffickers and people who sell our country out to the Chinese will go free.
All right, so let's get down.
To this debate prep.
I really I mean to be honest, I think if If I were doing debate prep, the only thing I'd have to do Is have the boss watch These two videos take a look Oh!
unidentified
He's hurting across the eye of Chuck Webner.
Webner turning his head away from Ali now when he puts that left in his face.
It's the right hand that you're gonna have to watch out for because when Ali unloads that on top of that gut,
it'll split it wide open.
We'll look for a right hand momentarily.
Webner walks right into the left jab of Ali.
Webner not concerned with the left jab at all.
kamala harris
He just takes the punch.
unidentified
Ali...
makes the top part of his body back and slips a punch to his left.
Oh! A vicious shot to the rib of Muhammad Ali.
What a surprise.
Chuck Webner gets to the body of Muhammad Ali.
Now let's see what happens here.
We're gonna count it to six, seven...
kamala harris
I do not believe you are a racist.
And I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground.
But I also believe, and it's personal, and it was actually very, it was hurtful.
To hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country.
And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing.
And, you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was bused to school every day.
And that little girl was me.
peter navarro
Alright, what's my point here?
The first clip was Chuck Webner, journeyman, knocking Muhammad Ali flat on his ass.
Just flat on his ass.
The king went down.
Didn't float like a butterfly on that.
He dropped like a flop.
And then you got Kamala Harris castrating Joe Biden with what I exposed on the last show on Wednesday was a phony busing narrative.
But what what's my point here?
No matter how incompetent somebody might be in a fight or in a debate, they can throw a lucky punch and knock it down.
So be friggin careful.
All right.
I could stop there.
That's all the debate prep the boss needs, because he knows exactly what to do.
But let me indulge myself and give you six more things that I've been been chewing over.
And I'm on a mission, a crusade, first of all.
Number one.
During this debate and for everybody out there in the conservative diaspora, talking to you, Fox 5, okay, Gutfield, Judge Jeanine, Dana Perino, Jesse Waters, Kennedy, okay, Fox 5 especially, everybody on Fox, everybody, conservative diaspora, number one, stop calling Kamala Harris Kamala.
Think about it.
All that does is it personalizes her in a positive way and makes her seem harmless instead of the deadly radical who has screwed our economy and our border and caused crime in the streets and ruined our energy industry and all of that.
So please, please, during the debate, my opponent, Kamala Harris.
Anything you want, but not Kamala.
If you have to resort to a first name, just use a nickname.
Kama-chameleon.
Kama-comrade.
Kama-liar.
Kamaflation.
Shamala.
That's not bad.
Otherwise, you're just campaigning for her.
Do you hear me, Greg Gutfield?
Talking right to you, brother.
All right.
Number two, this is really important.
Nobody's going to listen to me on this in Trump land, but you've got to raise, not lower, debate expectations.
The lower the expectations, the easier it's going to be for Harris to say she won the debate.
How do you do this?
Well, first of all, you have to remind people that Trump is walking into a liberal star chamber.
ABC News.
is no more than CNN in a tuxedo.
And we got two debate moderators, David Mir and this woman named Lindsay Davis.
Okay, so imagine how much the Harris camp would squeal if Sean Hannity were actually one of the moderators in the ABC debate.
Brother Sean, what if Brother Sean, love the guy, what if he were the One of the moderators.
Yet, Trump is supposed to grin and bear it when handed his polar opposite ideologically, this Lindsay Davis moderates, right?
Memo to ABC debate viewers.
Lindsay Davis is a slick Harris-style radical steeped in the racism of identity politics and notorious for her diversity, equity, inclusion, DEI, proselytizing to the point Where she's even written children's books on this stuff.
Children's propaganda.
Okay, that's who's gonna be asking Donald Trump questions.
A woman who writes DEI propaganda for kids.
I mean, here's what you can expect from Davis and maybe David Meir.
If Harris gets into her word salad thing, They'll bail her out.
You can count on that.
And I do not rule out somebody, somehow, getting the Harris camp, the advanced questions, and you say, oh, that'll never happen.
Well, it did when the CNN debate happened with Hillary, and Don in Brazil gave them the questions.
Don't rule that out.
All right, that was number two.
Number three, don't take the comma bait.
What does Harris want?
This is why she wanted the mics open.
She wants the boss to bully her.
She also wants to distract Donald Trump from his core messages on the economy and inflation.
And we know in the polling that Trump wins in a landslide if the race is about that, and not race, by the way.
way.
CommaMud, there's a new nickname for you, must therefore relentlessly attack Trump's
character, accusing him of being an insurrectionist, rattle him with the F-word, felon, and otherwise
try to rattle his cage.
Each time Harris tries this, all Trump needs to do is to pull a Ronald, and there she goes
again, Reagan.
Love that movie.
Or only Rosie O'Donnell, if you remember that line.
The boss is great at that kind of stuff.
Pivot with a smile right back to the economy, inflation, or the border.
That's number three.
Don't take the comma bait.
Number four.
This one's interesting.
The zinger.
The zinger is a staple of presidential debates.
I knew John F. Kennedy.
You know, that kind of thing.
You're no John F. Kennedy.
Boy, just in one thing, you can devastate somebody.
So here's the thing.
Harris has a whole hollyweird assisted team of comedy and speechwriters.
I don't rule out Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert sending their stuff.
She's going to roll them out.
She's going to memorize what she's doing now.
She's out there avoiding the press again.
She's out there memorizing her soundbites.
What's Trump supposed to do?
I mean, I don't know.
Here's what I do.
I'd say there's nothing funny, Kamala, about The American people now having to choose between food on the table, medicine in the cabinet, and a roof over your head because of the inflation you have caused, Kamala Harris.
And there is nothing funny at all about the Middle East on fire, Ukraine ablaze, Communist China threatening Taiwan and the world.
Why?
That's all because Biden and Harris are viewed internationally as weak.
Truth be told, Kamala Harris is viewed not at all international because, as in her own words, I haven't even been to Europe.
I mean, don't get me started on the lack of her foreign policy experience.
Oh, maybe that's where the boss can go when she hits him with a zinger.
Number five, this is like a really important one.
Number five, it's not about abortion, stupid.
A little play on the Clinton things, the economy, stupid.
Well, this race, it's not about abortion, stupid.
Let's think about this.
If you look at the polling, Harris's best chance to win the debate in the election is to make it about identity politics, which is to say race, and what she will call reproductive rights, which you must read as abortion.
Harris will thereby try—this pissed me off.
This is why Romney is such a wuss, okay?
She's going to try to do what Obama did to Mitt Romney.
In 2012, divert the campaign from the economy and threats from communist China to social issues.
I mean, that's that's the playbook.
That's how Obama got a second term.
Romney should have kicked his friggin butt from here this way to Sunday.
But he let Obama turn it into a referendum on social issues.
That's what Kamala Harris wants to do with her reproductive rights tour.
By the way, that tour will go all the way to the last trimester.
If you get my drift there.
So, what the boss needs to do there is quickly pivot away from that issue, but not before taking the appropriate shots.
And when we come back, I'm going to lay out the possible shots on abortion he can take.
That's the fifth Issue on debate prep and we'll keep this is this is going to be probably the only debate and it comes early and it could decide the election.
So this stuff's important.
I'm Peter Navarro in Steve Bannon's war room.
Stay right here.
I'll be right back.
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The eye of Chuck Wetner.
Wetner turning his head away from Ali now when he puts that left in his face.
It's the right hand that you're going to have to watch out for,
because when Ali unloads that on top of that cut, it'll split it wide open.
We'll look for a right hand momentarily.
Wetner walks right into the left jab of Ali.
Wetner not concerned with the left jab at all, he just takes the punt.
Ali...
faints the top part of his body back and slips a punch to his left.
Oh! A vicious shot to the rib of Muhammad Ali, and what a surprise!
Chuck Wetner gets to the body of Muhammad Ali.
Now let's see what happens here. We're going to count it to six, seven...
kamala harris
I do not believe you are a racist.
And I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground.
But I also believe, and it's personal, and it was actually very, it was hurtful.
To hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country.
And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing.
And, you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day.
And that little girl was me.
peter navarro
Yeah.
So those clips, what we're doing here, Posse, if you just joined, we're doing a little Trump debate prep 101.
I'm offering some unsolicited suggestions on how the debate might be handled by the master debater of all time.
He certainly doesn't need My suggestions, I will grant you that.
But watching those two clips, I think is a reminder that any damn fool, that would include Kamala Harris, and any damn journeyman, that would include Chuck Wepner against Ali, can get lucky and land a devastating blow.
Wepner knocked Ali down, almost out.
Kamala thought she'd knocked Joe out, but didn't quite do it.
So what I'm doing here is going through the six suggestions I have for the debate, besides watching those videos.
The first one, I just want to reprise these because they're so, so important.
We've got to stop calling Kamala Harris by her first name.
It doesn't work like Hillary worked.
Hillary became a four-letter word very quickly because of all the baggage that she had over all the years that she carried that baggage.
And there's just not enough time in 60 days.
To convey the proper information to the American people that would really turn Kamala into a four-letter word.
So let's stop doing that, unless it's a nickname, like Kama-chameleon, Kama-comrade, Kama-liar, Shamala, whatever it is.
But please stop doing that.
Please, Fox News, lead the way on this, and the Five show, please be the leaders leading At Fox News.
I don't want to hear anybody on The Five anymore saying the word Kamala alone.
Just remember, nobody ever calls President Trump Donald unless it's got a the in front of it, and that's usually pejorative.
Okay, second thing is Raise expectations about it.
The boss is walking into a lion's den.
It's, like, severe.
Don't take the Kamala bait.
Four, expect the zingers and just pivot away to there being nothing funny about what Kamala Harris has done to destroy this country.
All right, number five.
We were talking about the abortion issue.
Harris desperately wants to make this Race, about race and abortion.
Abortion and race.
Just as Obama beat Romney on social issues and Romney wasn't able to pivot back to the economy, Kamala is going to try to do this.
Now, I haven't been real happy with what I've seen out there on the Trump side in terms of addressing this.
So let me give you a A couple of possible lines of counterattack.
Deliver them sato voce, as they say, please.
The obvious thing is abortion is no longer a federal issue.
The Dobbs decision sent it back to the states where the abortion decision more properly belongs constitutionally and politically.
Notice I didn't mention Roe v. Wade.
We don't need to go there.
That's the hot button.
What the Supreme Court did was the Dobbs decision, Roe v. Wade was bad law, and the Dobbs decision was the appropriate law.
It depoliticized The issue at the Supreme Court, but boy, did it unleash a political firestorm.
So, just, it's not a federal issue.
Dobbs' decision sent back to the states.
Now, the second one, I think, is really important.
My position's not a moderate one, the boss might say.
He opposes late-term abortion, while Harris supports killing babies even after birth.
Polling, we had...
Mark Mitchell on, we had my brother Richard Barrett saying that even Democrat women don't support this late-term abortion.
The vast majority of women, and I think this needs to be pointed out, today are more concerned about inflation or border crisis than getting murdered or raped by some illegal alien.
That's very real.
They're more concerned about that, according to the polls, than abortion.
In the ninth month of her pregnancy.
And if you want to, you know, throw this in, by the way, Tim Walz lied to the American people about IVF.
Boy, he got away with that.
That's a that's a serious friggin lie.
OK.
And the boss strongly supports IVF and you can make that that's what you radical Dems do.
You do say anything to win flip flop on a issue to fool swing voters.
So, there it is.
You destroy our economy, our border.
Okay, the last thing, if you want to get a little edgy, try this.
Vice President Harris, this would channel Bobby Kennedy, I think.
The issue is abortion, not choice.
It's abortion, not choice, Harris.
If you believed in the slogan, my body, my choice, you wouldn't have forced everyone from soldiers and children to government bureaucrats to take a vaccination that should only have been administered voluntarily to seniors and people with comorbidities.
All right, the last one, Kamala Harris border fib.
Look, she's getting away with that and we're not answering that properly.
Harris is claiming Trump killed a bill that would have secured the border to further his campaign.
It is one of the biggest lies of the Harris campaign.
The voters need to understand why.
Try this, that phony Harris bill.
unidentified
Boom!
peter navarro
That's what you gotta hit her.
catch and release, allowed millions more illegal immigrants to cross the border,
forced taxpayers to pay for the legal bills and welfare costs of these
illegals, and appropriated billions more for tax dollars to sanctuary cities and
states like Minnesota, where your avowed socialist running mate Tim Walz comes
from. Boom! That's what you got to hit her. Mark Levin, the great one, did a beautiful
job on that in his interview with Trump. All right, those are my top six takes for
how to deal with this debate.
There's going to be a lot more going on in 90 minutes, but the six points above hit what's likely.
Now, the last thing I would say, in addition to watching Wepner knock Ali flat on his ass and Harris castrated Biden, watch this clip by Tulsi Gabbard.
tulsi gabbard
Senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president, but I'm deeply concerned about this record.
There are too many examples to cite, but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.
She blocked evidence.
She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so.
She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California.
And she fought to keep cash bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way.
unidentified
Boom!
peter navarro
That's how you deliver a blow, and that's why having Tulsi Gabbard come into the Trump fold, I think, is so important.
That's how you vivisect Kamala Harris, hanging her with her own actions.
And it does, I mean, this whole thing about what she did with prosecuting young, proud black men, From Oakland, when she was the DA across the bay in San Francisco, and then lighting up her bong at night and laughing about it.
I mean, I tell you, a lot of black men in particular.
Not buying what she's selling, particularly since both she and Biden promised to let free from prison everybody who was in for these minor marijuana charges.
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peter navarro
Hey, Peter K. Navarro in for the Admiral Stephen K. Bannon.
And I'm so pleased once again to welcome Joe Kent.
The next congressman, I think it's from the first district maybe, of the great state of Woke, Washington, and we're going to try to turn a little bit of that state red.
Joe, you there brother?
What's going on, man?
unidentified
I'm here, Peter.
joe kent
Good to see you.
peter navarro
You look marvelous.
How's the race going?
joe kent
It's going great.
We've got a lot of great momentum.
We just put out our first commercial.
Should be hitting the airwaves here soon.
But look, people are fed up.
The inflation, the wide open border, just the decay that we see everywhere.
It's given us a lot of good momentum.
We're getting a lot of independents, a lot of former Democrats coming over to our side.
As well.
So the state of the race is going really strong.
Of course, the Democrats have lots of money, but nowhere near as much of a deficit as we were in last time.
So that front's going well too, thanks in large to the War Room Posse and the great people here in the district.
We're just going to keep steady pressure on.
All the Democrats have, I think, and this is true for the rest of the country, all the Democrats really have is mischief.
Like screaming about abortion, calling us weird, because these people can't defend their records.
They've been in power now for four years.
They've opened up our border.
They're crushing us with inflation.
We're on the cusp of World War III on multiple fronts.
And so they're doing everything they can to divert.
You got Democrats like my opponent, who's in a Trump district, who is doing everything she can to avoid saying the words Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.
However, her record directly reflects their policies.
So we're going to hold her accountable for that.
peter navarro
All right.
See, Denver, can you play Joe's ad?
Do you have that up?
Let's take a look at that.
joe kent
I'm Joe Kent.
Service has always been a big part of my life.
As a Boy Scout and an Eagle Scout, I worked on search and rescue missions right here in the Cascades.
As soon as I turned 18, I enlisted, becoming an Army Ranger stationed up at Fort Lewis and then a Green Beret.
After 20 years and 11 combat deployments, I moved back home here to Yakult to raise my boys.
Easy, fellas.
And now I'm running for Congress so I can fight for all our families.
I'm Joe Kent.
I approve this message.
I'd be honored to serve you.
peter navarro
Man, that is the classic introduction to the candidate.
I love that, man.
joe kent
I love that.
peter navarro
How many takes do you have to do to do that, brother?
unidentified
Oh, I can't even count.
joe kent
That was a full day or two of actual production, especially moving locations and trying not to trip when I jumped up over the ridge there, but happy with the way it turned out.
peter navarro
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's... I mean, what's your name ID in that district now, having run now the second time?
joe kent
It's actually much better, obviously, having to run a second time and really not taking any time off the campaign, just keeping the pedal to the metal, doing lots of media.
Name ID is really high.
We're working on bringing up our opponent's negatives.
Right now, she's kind of got a generally either unknown or I think she's somewhat favorable because of all the local media here that says that she's and moderate blue dog and all this type of stuff. So we're
working really hard right now to kind of reintroduce myself to the district and then also to just
highlight just how radical her record actually is because last time I ran against her she could
say whatever she wanted she didn't have a voting record. This time she's got a voting record that
reflects Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and so again we're gonna really hold her accountable for
that and make sure everybody in the district knows just how radical she is. Yeah I don't want
unidentified
to build her name idea but what's her name?
joe kent
Marie Perez.
So you won't hear very much about her every now and again.
There's a puff piece that the New York Times is really taking a liking to her.
They're basically an extension of her campaign.
So if you ever happen across the New York Times, you'll probably see her in there quite a bit, especially as we approach the election season.
But really all she has is propaganda and name calling because her voting record, again, it just reflects how radical and out of touch the Democrats are.
peter navarro
It is kind of interesting to me, Joe, how candidates can get away with saying something that's totally different from the reality of who they are.
I mean, Kamala Harris is the poster child of that right now at the presidential level.
I mean, everything she says is contrary to what She actually did.
And what's interesting with Marie Perez is your comment how she's not that well-known in the district, which suggests she just hangs in the weeds, lays low, and then lies her way into office.
Have you had your first debate?
unidentified
Not yet.
joe kent
We've got one coming up on October 7th and then a few others.
We put out a press release the other day.
So, so far we've agreed to about four debates and then one candidate forum as well.
So, we'll be out there on the trail holding her accountable for her record.
I'm looking forward to the debates and really letting people see just how radical she actually is.
peter navarro
Joe, you don't start the debate until October 7th?
That's the first one?
When's early voting start in Washington?
joe kent
Early voting starts on October 18th.
The ballots get sent out.
peter navarro
Oh, OK.
So it's pretty late there.
I mean, in Pennsylvania, it's frightening.
It's like within a week or so.
It's like crazy stuff.
OK, so that timing's good.
So when that happens, will it be live streamed or anything for the posse to watch?
It will be.
joe kent
So the first two that we're doing are on the ABC and the CBS affiliates here locally.
So they'll be broadcast throughout the entire district. And then one of the ones that we're
doing in person, we're going to do our best to get a camera crew there and make sure that's
peter navarro
put on the air as well. I'm surprised with your ad that you didn't have any shots of you
in uniform. I mean, it's a greatly understated bio.
I mean, you're one of the great heroes of this country, Joe.
And that's not an exaggeration.
I mean, you... How many tours of duty did you have?
joe kent
I did 11 combat deployments.
peter navarro
Yeah, I mean... It boggles the mind.
I mean...
I did four months in prison.
You did 11 combat deployments.
That's like the Earth to the Moon distance, dude.
unidentified
And I don't know.
peter navarro
I mean, don't underestimate yourself out there when you're campaigning.
And you did a great service to this country.
Whatever people in the state of Washington think about those wars.
You put your life on the line and you lost your wife to that.
So I wouldn't be... I think people need to know that out there.
So that's just kind of my initial take on that, man.
You are a hero.
Tell the posse how they can help you out as we cue up Michigan here.
Joe, how can we help you, sir?
joe kent
Absolutely.
We've actually got a couple of other ads in the hopper that really speak to my service more in depth and also losing my late wife while she was fighting ISIS in Syria.
So those are coming up.
But if you want to support the campaign to make sure we can blast those ads out, go to JoeKentForCongress.com.
Anything you can give between now and November is going to greatly help us.
JoeKentForCongress.com.
peter navarro
JoeKentForCongress.com.
You got that posse?
This man, we need him.
In Congress.
He should have got in there last time.
Kevin McCarthy cut the legs out from under a great American hero.
It's not going to happen this time because he's got the posse behind him.
Joe Kent for Congress.com.
Joe, we'll catch up with you whenever you got something.
You got a report from the front lines there, brother.
You are my hero.
joe kent
Thank you so much, Peter.
Thank you so much, brother.
I appreciate that.
peter navarro
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
All right, we are going to get the gentleman up now or shortly named Pete Hoekstra.
We'll figure out the proper pronunciation of that.
But I know I know this guy well from my days in the Trump administration.
He was a congressman in Michigan for 18 years.
And during the Trump administration, he was appointed as ambassador to the Netherlands, which, I mean, everybody talks about France and Germany in the EU as being kind of the powerhouses, but the Netherlands, Every bit is important, primarily because it's the center of the international petroleum industry in Rotterdam and they have some power there.
What we want to work through when we get peed up is what's going on in the battleground state of Michigan.
The most important thing we have to do now in Michigan ...is unite what has been a fractured Republican Party.
They had their share.
of infighting.
Somebody we had a lot on the show, Christina Karamo, pulled an Icarus on us and flew up to try to fly up to the sun and her wings melted off and left that party in disarray.
Pete's come in at the urging of Donald Trump with his endorsement and trying to put the Humpty Dumpty pieces together again.
Cameron, let me know if if you get Pete up there.
And what I really want to know is what the Republican Party In the state of Michigan, he's doing to get out the vote.
So let's bring in Pete now for a minute and then we'll take a break and we'll bring him back for some more minutes.
Pete, how are you, buddy?
unidentified
Hey, I'm doing great, Peter.
Good to be with you.
peter navarro
So let's get right down to it.
We got like 90 seconds to the break and then we'll keep you over for the next segment.
But what's the state of play?
Have you consolidated the Republican committee in Michigan?
Are you getting the vote out?
unidentified
Absolutely.
I mean, there's still people out there that don't like me.
They don't like that I was selected to replace Christina Carano.
But the bottom line is the party is totally united in electing Donald Trump to be the
next president of the United States and putting Michigan in the win column for the president
because when we win Michigan, Donald Trump is the next president of the United States.
And so I'm not on the ballot.
I don't matter.
OK.
But Donald Trump is.
Mike Rogers is.
These are the folks that we need in Washington.
And Republicans are united behind those candidates.
So I feel great about that.
peter navarro
What's Mike Rogers doing?
Is he running for governor or senator?
What's his thing?
unidentified
Mike Rogers is going to be... Imagine they were totally ignorant.
Yeah, no, Mike Rogers is our candidate for the U.S.
Senate.
It's the open Debbie Stabenow seat.
She's retiring.
He's running against an incumbent congresswoman.
But I think that this is a great opportunity for Republicans to pick up a Senate seat in the state of Michigan for the first time since 1994.
Mike was the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, you know, and Yeah, obviously you and I are watching what the Biden-Harris administration is doing on foreign policy.
It's a disaster.
We need Mike in Washington.
peter navarro
Okay, hang out.
We're going to take just a couple minute break here and then I really want you to tell me what's going on on the ground there.
Pete Hoekstra.
We'll be right back.
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peter navarro
Hey, Peter Kay Navarro, and we're talking to Pete Hoekstra, former congressman from
Michigan, former ambassador to the Netherlands, now the head of the Republican Party in Michigan,
taking over from Christina Caramo.
Let me make a point to the posse here.
A lot of folks out there in posse land supported Karama.
I did.
I was on the show with her.
unidentified
Okay?
peter navarro
What we need to do now, this is what you do with 60 Days Out.
You get behind the guy who's going to lead the party.
If Donald Trump can make peace with Brian Kemp, you folks in Michigan can make peace with Pete Hoekstra.
So let's focus on the mission here.
The mission is winning in November.
In Michigan, we win there.
We win.
So Pete, come on back here and tell me How many folks you got out there on your grassroots team?
And how are you going to go out and get people to vote?
And how are you going to stop people from stealing votes in Detroit?
unidentified
Well, we are doing really well, Peter.
And thank you for that plug.
Absolutely.
We want to work with everybody in the state to bring Donald Trump across the finish line.
The first thing that we've got going on in the ground game, and it's not necessarily ground game, but there's no better motivator than Donald Trump to come in and get the grassroots folks motivated to come out and vote and to take their friends.
We finished a stretch last week, Thursday, where we had Donald Trump or J.D.
Vance in the state four times in a period of nine days.
And we also had Kristi Noem here.
So we're getting great support from the top of the ticket to motivate folks here in Michigan.
We have, uh, you know, I think we've got over a hundred folks, uh, that are on our staff focus exclusively on get out the vote.
We, uh, we're leading, I think all of the battleground state and getting people to sign up for the get out the vote effort of the Trump campaign, which is called Trump force 47 going after low propensity voters.
We're well on our way in terms of getting to the objective that the Trump team has set for us in regards to the number of volunteers that they need to reach out to the voters that we need to get.
peter navarro
Bill, walk me through the state real quick.
Walk the posse through the state.
You've got Detroit, which is an Ann Arbor, which are Democrat strongholds.
You've got the Upper Peninsula, which I think is more Republican.
Talk to me about the state of Michigan and kind of the schizophrenia of it, red and blue, within there, and how you're tackling that.
unidentified
Yeah.
You know the state better than you're admitting.
Absolutely.
In Detroit, we just recently had the former mayor of Detroit, Kwame Kilpatrick, very popular yet in the state and in the Detroit area, a Democrat.
He came out and gave a rousing endorsement of Donald Trump.
So we're not going to win the black vote in Detroit, but we're going to do better in the black vote than we've ever done before because of those kinds of endorsements in Detroit.
Uh, the second thing is Southeast Michigan.
Hey, this is the home of the automobile industry of the world.
And Harris and Biden and our governor Whitmer, uh, they're destroying it.
Uh, you know, they're putting out these crazy mandates for electric vehicles, Chinese embracing Chinese companies and, uh, the UAW workers union voters, which are a strong Democrat block.
They voted for Donald Trump in 2016.
They're going to do it again in 2024 because they recognize Harris is putting their jobs at risk.
And these are high-quality, high-paying jobs.
The tool and die guys, the machinists, and those kinds of things.
So that's another inroll.
You're absolutely right.
peter navarro
How about Grand Rapids?
How about Grand Rapids?
unidentified
Yep, Grand Rapids, West Michigan, that's my home territory.
Trump is going to do very, very well here.
We have a lot of automotive suppliers and those types of things.
It's a conservative part of the state.
peter navarro
What's the battleground area in Michigan, the kind of purple areas that you've got to go to?
unidentified
It's going to be Macomb, Oakland, Saginaw, and Monroe counties, southeast Michigan.
And we've got some great county chair people over there.
I think the Wall Street Journal is writing an article that will come out tomorrow talking about Macomb County and the efforts that we've got going out there.
You know, people, it's always been Macomb.
That's the heart of the auto industry, you know, the machinists, the suppliers and those kinds of things.
Saginaw County.
So those are really the four or five counties that, you know, right now are really in play along with Kent County, which is Grand Rapids.
peter navarro
Are you doing ads?
Is your organization doing ads?
unidentified
No, we're not.
As a state party, we're not doing ads.
peter navarro
You don't do ads?
unidentified
No.
Our networks are flooded with ads.
We've got lots of pro-Trump, Rogers, and of course on the Democratic side as well.
peter navarro
We've got 30 seconds.
I want you to pitch to the people in Michigan and anybody.
How can they help you win Michigan right now?
Do you have somewhere they can go to?
unidentified
They can go to our website, Michigan Republican Party, MIGOP.
We need them to sign up for Trump Force 47.
And then we need to have them engage with their local parties for local get-out-the-vote efforts.
Door knocking, dropping off lit bags, and those kinds of things.
Pretty much every county has some kind of get-out-the-vote operation.
So, Trump Force 47 and your local counties.
peter navarro
Action, action, action.
Pete, you're our patriot.
Thank you, sir.
Let's take, uh, let's take Michigan.
We take Michigan, we save this country.
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