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Episode 3858: Economy In Crisis Under Kamala; Astronauts Stranded
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The president is going to make America healthy again.
Thank you all very, very much and God bless you and God bless America.
Bye.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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The people have had a belly full of it.
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I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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MAGA Media.
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Hey, Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon and mark your calendars.
I'll be with you in the War Room for the morning show, 10 to noon Eastern, all this week and next.
Today the show is going to be on fire.
We'll start with a look behind the policy scenes at the historic RFK endorsement of President Trump last week and explain what has drawn these two titans into common cause against the Fauciites and Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
I'm going to tap into a vein that the legacy media has virtually ignored.
Hey, are you listening?
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peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
You've missed a really good story here.
That's the shameful role Kamala Harris has played in the failures of our space program and the Gilligan's Island stranding of two brave American astronauts on the space station.
My guest for this soiree later in the hour will be the incredible Greg Autry, a former NASA official and author of a book I had a little bit to do with, Red Moon Rising.
Then we'll end the show with Mo Bannon and a tribute on this third year anniversary to the Afghan veterans that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden allowed to be slaughtered.
We'll watch Donald Trump lay a wreath at Arlington, Kamala Harris hides in Joe Biden's basement from the press like Tim Walz hid from the Iraq War.
Walz's idea of having your back is to stick a bayonet in it and then to run, not towards Iraq, but for Congress.
All righty, let's get to it with Maha.
Okay, everybody say it with me out there.
Maha.
That's MAGA's new kissing cousin, and here's how this goes.
President Trump will make America healthy again.
Maha!
That's actually the title of chapter 27 of my new book, The New MAGA Deal.
And Donald Trump's commitment to improving the health of all Americans, particularly our children, Immediately puts into sharp focus the shared interests of Donald Trump and Bobby Kennedy Jr., as well as the strategic importance of RFK Jr.'
's timely endorsement of Trump.
Here's the backstory.
Big Pharma, I was there, I watched this happen.
Big Pharma spent millions to keep Donald Trump out of the White House in 2020 election.
Big Pharma and Big Food spent millions more to derail Bobby Kennedy's campaign this cycle.
Donald Trump and RFK Jr. now share a common cause because each understands
these deep-pocketed special interests.
Big Pharma is probably the deepest pocket in all of D.C.
They're the root cause of needlessly lethal mental and physical health problems for Americans.
This stuff boggles your mind here.
Consider here in the 21st century, 54% of American children, 54% are chronically ill
while they face increased rates of anxiety, depression, autism, food allergies, obesity,
developmental disorders, cancer, and more.
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So.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
Yet captured by Faucian special interests like Big Pharma, hey, Tony Fauci made a More money than God from Big Pharma.
Our federal agencies and politicians have paid little attention to the Dickensian conditions our children and our people face.
America now has one of the highest obesity rates in the world, and childhood obesity has tripled over the last three decades.
So too is autism, an epidemic.
This, this is amazing.
Autism And American children has skyrocketed from 1 in 150 in the early 2000s.
You ready for this?
To 1 in 36 today.
That's 1 in 36 children.
In the 90s, autism prevalence was just 1 in 1,000.
And in the 70s, 1 in 10,000.
Today, that's one in 36 children.
In the 90s, autism prevalence was just one in a thousand, and in the 70s, one in 10,000.
What the hell's going on here?
One key to stopping the autism epidemic is ensuring toxins, like mercury,
ingredients in plastics and fire retardants, and certain ingredients in pharmaceuticals,
such as acetaminophen, vaccines, and antidepressants, are kept out of kids' bodies.
And...
As for America's obesity epidemic, hey, Neil Cavuto solved the problem.
I saw that guy over the weekend.
A little glimpse of him on Fox.
Dude looks like a ghost.
Man, that guy used to be big and round and full of anger for Donald Trump.
Now he's a little thing.
Full of anger for Donald Trump.
Hey, Neil.
Anytime you want me on the show, I'm ready, baby.
As for America's obesity epidemic, Big Food delivers the average American child 100 times more sugar than 100 years ago.
And sugar, by the way, I've had problems with it myself.
It's a substance as addictive as cocaine.
This per capita sugar fix is a stark contrast to the 1950s when the US's obesity rate was virtually non-existent.
Of course, big food hides this sugar in processed foods which also contain other harmful chemicals
including titanium dioxide.
Ever hear of that?
Potassium bromates.
Ever hear of that?
Brominated vegetable dye.
And my favorite, of course, gets all over your clothes.
Red dye number three.
And there's propoparabin, whatever that is.
I'll tell you what they are.
They're toxic chemicals that disrupt... Here, count this out.
Estrogen.
Lower sperm count.
They cause cancer in animals and humans.
They disrupt healthy gut bacteria, damage our central nervous systems, cause memory loss and muscle coordination loss, and are linked to hyperactivity in children.
That's big food.
How about big pharma?
It's taking a similar toll.
On the over-vaccination front, the U.S.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends children receive an astonishing 11 vaccinations in their first 15 months of life.
The recommended vaccines for children in the 1990s and nearly quadruple the amount of recommended vaccines for children recommended in the 1970s.
Astonishingly, Big Pharma regularly bribes doctors to coerce parents into vaccinating their children.
It's like a bounty.
There's a bounty on kids.
Consider this.
Blue Cross and Blue Shield have reported that every pediatrician with an average of 260 children under two years of age has patients was awarded $400 each time a child completed 10 vaccinations before their second birthday.
That's a bounty!
And for the doctors, that's a potential hundred grand year-end bonus.
Hey, I remember when Sean Payton and the New Orleans Saints said there was like a bounty for hard hits and you got suspended.
How about suspending those guys?
Here's the deal.
Big pharma and big food.
Particularly and cynically, cynically target low-income American children.
Surprisingly, teenagers in low-income areas are most likely to have pre-diabetes and obesity from constantly eating processed foods with toxic chemicals, which usually means high cholesterol and high blood sugar.
Although the poor health conditions, the poor health conditions brought about by big food aren't lethal in and of themselves.
Get this, watch this.
They usually result in big pharma dependence on medicines like statins, insulin, and Adderall, keeping the money towards medical bills sky high.
You get it?
Big food gives you all this crap and big pharma has to cure it, right?
Although the cure is often worse than the frigging disease.
Then there is this.
With obesity usually comes increased rates of depression.
Adults who struggle with obesity have a 55% increased risk of developing depression over their lifetime compared to those who are not.
Currently, 30% of Americans admit to struggling with depression, which is a 10% increase from 2015.
Instead of examining America's living environment, the food they consume, the quality of water they drink, and more, to address this dramatic rise in depression, Americans, even young adults now, poppin' pills, Xanax, are giving big pharma prescriptions for antidepressant medications at a rate triple that of the previous decade.
Teenagers poppin' pills?
Come on, dudes.
Top of this, these antidepressants, they've got horrible side effects.
Anxiety, insomnia, even depression.
That's the condition they were supposed to solve.
Okay?
Without making serious changes to improve our national public health, our country will further grow unhealthy and weak.
Ah!
Enter stage right with the help of Bobby Kennedy, Jr.
President Trump is determined to make America healthy again.
Ma-ha!
Ma-ha!
Make America healthy again.
Both Donald Trump and RFK Jr.
know that to make America great again, America must be healthy again.
Now, here's the politics of this.
You are in the war room.
The political significance of the RFK Jr.
endorsement will not be lost on the Democrats.
A Trump-Kennedy alliance.
That's the last thing Kamala Harris needed to see at the end of a DNC coronation devoid of any policies or substance.
That's because MAHA, Make America Healthy Again, is likely to be a potent issue moving swing voters Particularly with Trump's stamp of approval from a longtime warrior like RFK Jr.
against Big Pharma.
Hey, did anyone notice Tony Fauci wasn't on the stage at the DNC?
And by the way, Fauci has set the Guinness Book of Records mark for the American citizen with the most vaccinations Thank you, Dr. Malone.
the most cases of COVID. Plus Fauci, a little shout for right here, baby.
Fauci got the West Nile virus because his immune system is in shambles from too many jabs. Thank
you, Dr. Malone. Of course, if Fauci dies at his own force, Vax Han, Kamala Harris will no doubt
deliver the eulogy. At any rate, you can get the New Magadheel book where this monologue and
chapter evolve, newmagadheel.com.
You Use the promo code NAVARRO for a sweet 20% discount from Don Junior, the publisher.
That's newmagadeal.com.
All right.
So when we come back, we're going to shift gears from MAHA Up into space, lost in space, a couple of astronauts.
We're going to explain why Kamala Harris had more than a little bit to do with it.
It's something that you won't hear from David Meir or any of those anchors on the big numbers or from Jake Tapper or those folks.
You are in the War Room.
Peter Kay Navarro.
We'll be right back.
Stay right here.
unidentified
We've been through a lot of simulations for this spacecraft too.
Sonny and I are honored to share this dream of space flight.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
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All right, we're going to get into the space thing, but I want to let you know I am monitoring the comments here on the live chat on Rumble.
And if I see anything to respond to, we can get that going, too.
So try to get interactive.
But right now, Let's get one thing straight.
Kamala Harris, you won't hear this anywhere else but on The War Room.
It's one story that's been really lost in space.
Kamala Harris has failed miserably as chair of the National Space Council and is dragging out everything that was built during the Trump administration's stellar run.
When President Trump re-established the National Space Council, I was there in the White House when he did it, we had a clear, bold vision.
America was going back to the moon, establishing a foothold on Mars, and ensuring our dominance in space.
With my brothers Scott Pace at the White House and Jim Bridenstine at the helm, we were hitting every milestone.
The U.S.
Space Force was up and running, Artemis was on track, and our commercial partnerships were flourishing.
It was all working beautifully until Harris took the reins.
Now, let's talk some specifics.
Take this Starliner debacle, right?
The Gilligan's Island thing.
They go off like for a three day or three hour cruise and they're going to be there until February 25.
Astronauts stranded on the International Space Station and delays that never seemed to end.
What's going on here?
It's because Kamala Harris has no clue, no clue how to lead on space.
Under the Trump administration, Boeing and other commercial partners knew there was a leadership in place in the White House that wouldn't tolerate these kinds of delays.
But under Harris, it's like the wheels have come off.
There's no accountability, no urgency, no plan.
What about the National Space Council itself?
Under Trump, at the White House, we had eight major meetings.
Eight.
Public, substantive, with real questions and answers.
We weren't just going through the motions.
We were making policy.
Fast forward to Harris' tenure.
Three meetings, that's it, the bare legal minimum.
The last one, a very hasty December throw together, where Kamala, she shows up, gives a canned opening speech, and then bails from the meeting, turning it over to some bureaucrat.
This is the so-called leader of our space policy.
The user advisory group, another essential part of our space strategy, has become a joke.
Top industry executives, the people who should be driving innovation, are now saying their time is being wasted with scripted meetings.
Under Trump, these were the people.
They were our partners in making America the leader in space.
Now they're just frustrated observers.
NASA is in shambles, folks.
Artemis, the crown jewel of Trump's space vision, is now facing endless delays.
Instead of landing on the moon in 2024, we're looking at 2026 at the earliest.
And that's, if you believe the optimistic projections.
China, Communist China, is closing in, aiming for 2030.
And at this rate, they might well beat us there.
The leadership vacuum is undeniable, and it's Kamala Harris' job to fill it.
But where is she?
Harris' involvement with NASA science missions is another disaster.
Look at the Mars sample return mission.
Under Trump, this was a $7 billion project.
Expensive, yes, but manageable.
Now it's ballooned to $11 billion and Congress won't even fund it.
NASA is asking for new industry proposals just to get a handle on things.
And what's Kamala Harris doing, right?
The head of the Space Council?
Nothing.
Let's not forget the international scene.
The International Space Station is now a hotbed of tension, thanks to Biden's weak handling of the Ukraine crisis.
Russia announced they're pulling out, then backtrack, but the uncertainty is killing us.
Meanwhile, our commercial replacements for the International Space Station are behind schedule, creating a potential space station gap.
China, on the other hand, is moving full steam ahead, expanding their space station and attracting global partners.
What has Harris done?
Nothing.
Zero.
The big donut.
Nothing to confront communist China's reckless behavior in space from its anti-satellite tests to dangerous uncontrolled rocket re-entries.
Hey, this is what failure looks like in the White House.
Contrast this with Trump's tenure.
Six major space policy directives, a thriving space force, and a clear path to the moon and Mars.
Kamala Harris has issued one directive, that's it, and shown zero engagement in the issues that matter most.
Her public statements, in fact, are cringeworthy, telling Space Force guardians that, hey, space is exciting.
Oh, cool.
Or worse, she appeared in a staged space video with children, but it was child actors.
It was amateur hour, and it's costing us.
So what's the solution?
We are policy-oriented.
A Trump 2.0 presidency will get serious about space again.
We need leaders who understand that space is the next great frontier for America.
We need to restore NASA's leadership, hold commercial partners like Boeing accountable, and reassert our dominance in space exploration.
We need a National Space Council that meets regularly, engages meaningfully, and drives real policy, not the empty gestures we're seeing under Kamala Harris.
In short, Kamala Harris has dropped the space ball, but with the right leadership, America can and will reclaim its rightful place as the leader in space exploration.
We've done it before, and we will do it again.
Now, after the break, I'm going to be pleased, very pleased to welcome a guy named Greg Autry.
I met Greg literally decades ago when I was teaching at the University of California, Irvine Business School.
And Greg was a student of mine in the master's program.
And he went on not just to earn his master's MBA, he went on to get a PhD.
And he has emerged, I think, as arguably, you can count on one hand, the top five analysts, academics, and true experts.
In space and his he was he worked at NASA during the Trump administration.
He was scheduled to be a really top top gun there.
But Mitch McConnell couldn't get his nomination through in time.
Thank you, Mitch.
Clown.
But what Greg's going to bring to the table in terms of Looking at this situation is to give us some perspective because there's basically two models that we've had in space.
The original model was all kind of Houston.
We got a problem here.
It was all like government bureaucrats doing these cost plus contracts where the government would run the whole thing, give a bunch of money to private companies.
And if they had cost overruns, you just give them a bunch of money.
And Elon Musk actually came along and upset this paradigm with SpaceX and the ability to launch rockets and put satellites up into space at much cheaper rates.
So there's a competition now between kind of the old paradigm and the new paradigm.
So what Greg Autry is going to do over the next half hour after the break, First of all, we're going to break down this Starliner problem.
Talk about Kamala Harris's role in causing the stranding of these astronauts.
And then from there, we're going to look bigger at kind of the broader issue of how a space program should be run and what the stakes are involved.
I mean, the reality is that as we run out of key minerals and we have problems with energy costs and everything here on Earth, there is literally a cornucopia of things we can harvest up in space that would make our lives infinitely more prosperous and comfortable down here on Earth.
And of course, the scarier part, and his book Red Moon Rising gets into this, deals with the strategic issues of who holds the strategic high ground up there in space.
And right now, Communist China seems to be the only country that is moving in a straight line on schedule to do that.
And I shudder at the thought of Communist China holding the strategic high ground, the moon.
All right, when we come back, we will be right back with a great guest,
This is Greg Autry.
You stay here, you're with Stephen K. Bannon's War Room.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
We've been through a lot of simulations for this spacecraft too.
Sonny and I are honored to share this dream of space flight.
Thank you.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
Thank you, Peter K. Navarro, in for Stephen K. Bannon.
You're in the War Room, and I'm pleased right now to introduce a good friend of mine and one of the great experts in the realm of space, Greg Autry.
I want to talk first about this crisis with the Starliner and our astronauts lost in space.
And then we're going to get into kind of the bigger issues we've got right now with NASA and Kamala Harris and all that good stuff.
unidentified
Brother!
Hey.
What's going on, man?
Good to see you.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
What's going on?
unidentified
You're looking good.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
You relocated...
To Cape Canaveral area.
unidentified
I did.
I'm on Florida's space coast.
I got the heck out of Newsom's nuthouse and, you know, I've lived my whole life in California.
And I've been everywhere in the world, Peter.
And I know you spent a lot of time there, too.
I think California is the most beautiful place on the planet Earth and they have destroyed it.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
They have destroyed it.
It's pretty crazy.
unidentified
And Kamala Harris did a lot of that destroying as attorney general of that state.
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So let's let's talk about The two astronauts lost in space, they're up in the space station.
They went up there, like, I mean, the Gilligan's Island analogy, I think, is apt.
You got for a three hour cruise and you wind up spending five seasons on TV having hijinks.
I don't think they're having as much fun as Gilligan.
What happened there?
And I guess Elon, who you know well, is going to wind up bringing him back.
Give us your take on What went wrong there and why Boeing's pulled out of helping them and all that stuff?
unidentified
Sure.
Well, one of the good things is the capsule's actually named Calypso, not Minnow, thank God.
But it does have a nautical ring there.
This is a test flight, officially.
It isn't a regular paid crewed mission.
So they were testing things.
There was a failure.
NASA made the call that They weren't going to use Starliner Comeback and instead use one of SpaceX's must companies, Crew Dragon, to bring them back.
Starliner will come back on its own, empty.
Now, Boeing maintains that everything's pretty cool and that the crew could have come back on the capsule.
Off the record, I've talked to people who have both opinions, but people always err on the side of safety.
Mostly I think that's good.
Sometimes the safety culture at NASA frankly gets in front of being able to get a lot of good things done.
But that's where we sit.
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So let me just break this down.
So these two astronauts get on the Boeing Starliner.
They're supposed to go up for five days.
The Starliner docks there and is going to bring them back down.
unidentified
Right.
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On the way up, did something go wrong?
unidentified
Yeah, the reaction control thrusters that help do the fine maneuvering of the capsule as it approaches the station to dock suffered a sequence of failures.
There was also leaks in the helium system.
The helium gas is used to replace the propellant as it's used up.
That appears to be unrelated.
But NASA was really concerned about why these thrusters were doing that.
There had been thruster problems on a previous test flight of this vehicle or the, not the same capsule, but the same
system.
And they thought they identified that as being humidity at the Florida launch site and had addressed it,
but now they have a new problem.
NASA's not comfortable that they understand why these thrusters were failing.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
So when the capsule's going up there and they're having thruster problems,
they were able to dock successfully.
unidentified
They were.
So the automatic system failed.
They had to take over manual control.
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There were two astronauts.
One of them was actually driving the bus.
unidentified
Exactly.
Which these days, it's like a Tesla.
It's supposed to dock.
And that's what crew dragons do all the time.
So that failed there.
So they get up there.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
The astronauts get out.
They think they're going to only be there for a few days.
Now, once they make the decision to leave the astronauts there and they send Starliner back, did it have any problems?
Would it have been, just like hindsight's 20-20, would it have been okay to have them go back or would it have been...
unidentified
Well, it hasn't come back on its own yet.
It's going to, right?
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
And the Starliner is still stuck up there?
unidentified
It's still docked up there, right?
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
It's still docked up there.
unidentified
And so what was odd was the Boeing had software to automatically undock the Starliner, which they had done during, you know, a previous automatic test.
They removed that software, so they had to do a software upgrade.
One of the reasons we've been waiting for a while is they had to do a software upgrade so it could fly by itself again.
And it's expected to do that in a few days, and we'll see whether it was okay.
But hindsight is 20-20.
Obviously, if something goes wrong, everybody's going to feel pretty bad.
Now, I think the truth is, though, that NASA's concerned about a whole series of errors that Boeing has suffered with this vehicle that don't appear to be related, but it may be a systemic issue with quality control.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
All right, let's go into the space station itself.
How many Russians are there?
How many Americans are there?
What's life like up there?
Is it like a ghetto where they're running out of food?
Is it comfortable?
Is it somewhere in between?
What's it like day-to-day?
unidentified
Yeah, well, you've been to worse places, I know, recently.
There's plenty of room, comparatively.
It's being stuck in a shared condo with usually six people.
There's a bit of a divide between the Russians, who might be two or three of the six at any one particular time, and the other crew.
There's an obvious tension going on there between the West and the Russians.
So what do we have up there now?
There's six.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
But how many Americans?
unidentified
Oh, four and two Russians.
And we have a flight coming up with a replacement.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
So there's two Americans that have been out there for a long time.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
And they're going to be OK.
There's plenty of food.
We've got water.
What we don't have enough of necessarily is oxygen.
The CO2 levels build up inside the station, and there's a scrubber that removes that.
And if it gets above 4,000 parts per million, which is about 10 times what we've got here on Earth, it gets really uncomfortable.
And that happens when you get too many people in the station, which is why they're not sending four.
Up on the next flight, September 24th, they're just going to send up two and bring these two back down with the other two.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
So by the time... So it's Elon to the rescue here, right?
With SpaceX?
unidentified
It is.
His system's been perfectly reliable.
They're launching their ninth flight, Crew 9, on September 24th.
That's the one we're pulling two people off of.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
And the Starliner's got to leave... How many docking spaces are there for...
unidentified
Yeah, we're going to want to clear that docking space.
But there's also docking spaces for the Russian Soyuz and Progress vehicles.
And, you know, God forbid, if if we had to, you know, you can ask the Russians for a ride, which usually costs about 90 million dollars a seat.
Yeah.
OK.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
Are they the Russians still?
I mean, they were threatening to just leave it, right?
unidentified
They did.
In 2020, they announced they were, in fact, leaving over the Biden administration's basically you know, publicly abusing them over the Ukraine situation.
That was not good.
Then they backed off of that a little bit.
They are still committed to building their own space station now
in the next few years.
And they are going to exit the partnership and partner with China on the moon.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
So your theory with Kamala Harris is that, OK, just as I framed it in the monologue,
the Vice President of the United States is also head of the Space Council.
unidentified
Yeah, it's one of the few, maybe the only actual role that the Vice President has that's written in law.
So Kennedy had Congress pass a law for the... JFK.
Yeah, JFK, back in 1961, passed a law for the National Air and Space Council, which is the predecessor to the Space Council.
I wonder if that was the same executive order that sent Kamala to the border as well.
She doesn't seem to want to do anything she's supposed to do.
Kennedy sets this up.
order and Biden issued an additional executive order which flat out says that the vice president
is chair of the space council and tasked with managing space strategy and policy.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
I wonder if that was the same executive order that sent Kamala to the border as well.
unidentified
Yeah, no, I wish there was.
She doesn't seem to want to do anything she's supposed to do.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
So Kennedy sets this up. When did it lapse?
unidentified
It was disbanded by Nixon in 73 or 74. It re-stood up by H.W.
Bush.
Bush, and then shut down by Al Gore when his reimagining government, he famously remarked that he doesn't do funerals or space.
It was then re-stood up by President Trump, who realized it strategically.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
So Obama, Biden, they could have cared less?
unidentified
Obama promised to stand it back up and didn't do it.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
Didn't do it.
There's a lot of that.
So the Space Council itself is unusual in that it actually seems to have the ability to get stuff done, right?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
And I mean, it has the Secretary of Transportation, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of Energy, the NASA Administrator, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, SecDef, they're all there.
And if you use it right, it's an incredibly powerful tool.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
And during the Trump administration, show me how that worked.
unidentified
There were eight meetings, right?
And they came together and the president, based on the work of the Space Council and its user advisory group, issued six really important space policy directives, including directing that we would return to the moon,
which is now the Artemis program, and onto Mars in a way that was sustainable,
means staying there, not just putting the flag in and leaving,
dealing with space debris, dealing with space cyber threats,
standing up in the Space Force, of course.
A lot was done, more than has ever been done
since at least the Kennedy years, but probably more that's ever been done in space.
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So Kamala takes over, where does it meet, by the way?
The Space Council.
unidentified
Oh, they meet in a public space.
So sometimes they meet at, you know, under a space shuttle for a big public affair at the museum near Dulles.
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So the last time there was one, she like shows up.
unidentified
Yeah.
And it's a huge public meeting.
You've got all those cabinet secretaries there.
You've got really important leaders of industry on the advisory group sitting there.
You've got a hundred journalists and a big public audience.
She shows up, makes about a 10-minute speech and says, got to go.
And then, like everybody else is there, there for six hours. It was last December so you're
supposed to have a meeting every year. She waited to the last minute I believe it was
December 23rd. I have to look it up.
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So your theory of the case here is that if Kamala Harris had exhibited a strong hand,
real interest and had pursued policies in support of what Trump had been pushing forward
we might not have had the laxity at Boeing that we've had over four years and therefore
we would have had a better result than what we're seeing?
unidentified
Yeah. Flesh that out for me.
I can't say Kamala Harris made decisions that resulted in the astronauts being stuck, but I can say she didn't make any decisions and that sure helped result in the astronauts being stuck and a number of problems that we're facing at NASA and in space in general.
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Such as?
unidentified
Well, NASA science missions are Under immense pressure.
The Mars Sample Return Mission, which is probably the premier mission to return some soil and rock samples that have already been collected by the Perseverance rover on Mars so that we can look at them and finally answer the question about whether there is or has been life on Mars.
It's like the biggest question in science is completely off track.
Basically, the Science Mission Directorate had to give up and stop what they were doing and throw it out to a bid from a bunch of companies.
And they're spending $300 million just to see what a group of companies say maybe they should do now, because they're throwing away their old plan, because they can't get funding for it.
Harris hasn't been there to look at it and say, OK, why does it cost this much?
Or go to Congress and say, we need this much money.
She doesn't stand up for space in any case, because frankly, they don't care.
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Who's the Scott Pace equivalent there?
unidentified
Yeah, that's a good question.
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When I was in the White House, I was in the executive office building on the first floor.
Scott was right up a few floors.
I'd go see him a lot, just chat about These issues, because it was important to Donald Trump.
Who's lining the store?
unidentified
So the vice president's the chair, but there's an executive secretary, and Scott Pace from George Washington University held that role.
As you noted, he was a gentleman and a scholar.
I compare him to Cincinnatus.
He did yeoman's work for our country in space, and then he went back to his farm, and you don't hear a peep out of him.
But he's an amazing person to deserve so much credit.
We've got a guy named Chirag.
I know, I mean, he's an okay individual, but when you have no top cover, Peter, when you can't talk to your boss about your topic because she does not care about it, then nothing happens.
So, Chirag got out one space policy directive versus Trump's six, right?
And we've had three meetings only because three were legally required.
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All right, we are going to take a break.
We are with Greg Autry, author of Red Moon Rising.
Check it out on Amazon.
We're going to go bigger now on the whole space program.
Stay right here.
You are in the War Room.
unidentified
Let's take down the CC.
We've been through a lot of simulations for this spacecraft too.
Sonny and I are honored to share this dream of space flight.
Applause We've been through a lot of simulations for this spacecraft
too.
Sonny and I are honored to share this dream of space flight.
Applause We've been through a lot of simulations for this spacecraft
too.
Sonny and I are honored to share this dream of space flight.
Applause Hey.
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Hey, Peter Navarone from Stephen K. Bannon.
You are in the War Room with Greg Autry, author of It's a little puppy, Red Moon Rising.
I had a little bit to do with it, but it's Greg's puppy here.
It's a story about how communist China is trying to gain control, not just of planet Earth, but of planet Mars and the moon space for both military and economic purposes.
It's frightening.
It's a topic that Americans don't seem to be As interested in as perhaps they might be if they understood the stakes involved.
And I understand that.
I mean, most people in this country right now are struggling with Kamala's inflation, with Kamala's border crisis, with Kamala's crime, trying to protect their kids in K through 12 from Kamala's woke.
But this is an issue That I think is really important, and I would ask Jake Tapper, Norah O'Donnell, Dave Meir, Maggie Haberman.
Hey, here's one for you, Mags.
How about Axios, Bloomberg, to actually look at the nexus Between Kamala Harris's failure as the head of the Space Council and the Lost in Space drama now being played out...
And for me, Greg, first of all, that clip, I just I wanted to show that clip.
The woman astronaut, I mean, it's like the manic.
I wish they wouldn't play that clip.
I'm playing that clip and asking the mass media to stop playing that clip forevermore because it doesn't seem to reflect well.
on the space program.
There's a bit of panic in the air as she's manically doing what she is.
She's a very brave woman.
Anybody who can do that is a better person than I.
But space program's in trouble.
So what I want to do is like, first of all, tell the people listening, the viewer right now,
what are the main initiatives?
You mentioned Artemis.
What are we doing about the moon?
What are we doing about Mars?
Is there any other thing in play?
What are our timelines?
Summarize that first.
unidentified
So the most critical timeline is Trump's bold return to the moon, the Artemis program.
And again, that is a permanent, sustainable return to the marina.
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It's a man, man flight?
unidentified
Yeah.
And woman, which, you know, Artemis is the sister of Apollo.
And that's that Trump administration chose that name and, you know, indicated that, of course, we would bring women politically correct moments.
Yeah.
But of course, the Biden administration, the only addition they've made to it literally, Peter, is a woman of color.
Right.
Technologically and programmatically, they change nothing.
It's benign neglect.
They just let it slide along.
What color?
We don't know what color, right?
Maybe yellow like the Simpsons.
I'm all about diversity.
That's great.
But the point is, we need to do this because of the competition with China.
China was going to be there in 2030.
We were supposed to be there by 2024.
When I was on Trump's NASA transition team in 2016, we sat down and said, what are the big things that we can do that will make a difference?
We made the call to return to the moon and we looked at the timeline.
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By the way, just to put that in perspective, How long was it between JFK calling to go to the moon?
unidentified
Eight years.
Eight years.
61 to 69.
And so we said eight years.
We should be there from 16 to 24.
No problem, right?
We did it 50 years ago when we didn't know what we're doing.
Guess what?
It's 2024.
It ain't happening.
NASA says 2026, but nobody believes that.
It's at least 2028 at this moment.
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And by the way, China is likely to be able to accelerate your timeline.
unidentified
They are on track.
And if you don't get things done in China... So why should we care?
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Like, OK, so there's our infrastructures in shambles.
We don't have enough cops to protect people in our cities from all the illegal aliens we're letting in.
People can't afford to eat.
They can't afford the housing.
And we're spending billions on space.
What's the argument for going to the moon?
unidentified
You know what I love to say?
The statement I made in my confirmation hearing in the Senate when Donald J. Trump nominated me to be chief financial officer at NASA.
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And Mitch McConnell didn't get your nomination.
unidentified
And Mitch McConnell never held a vote.
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You missed it by about two weeks.
unidentified
In 1969, Peter, our campuses were rocked with riots.
The Hong Kong flu pandemic killed over 100,000 Americans.
There were cities burning because of poverty, and Johnson's War on Poverty wasn't working other than running up inflation and creating debt.
There were so many similarities.
We had an endless war in Vietnam.
So many similarities to where we are now.
But we invested in space, and what did we get out of it?
We got a whole group of students interested in STEM that created the PC
and Internet industries that drove our economy forward for the
next fifty years and endless spin offs from memory foam mattresses
to medical diagnostic solutions. You know I could spend a whole
hour show on that. There was value in it. There was also more
value in it geopolitically because America looked good.
Up until that moment America looked bad. Again our cities were torn apart. We were losing in Vietnam. The Russians
were ascended. And they were sent in the world really viewed the
Soviet Union as the model of the future. Once they lost that
moon race America looked good in the rest of the world and many people say that you
know 1970 is the moment that the Soviet Union began its its decline and
internally it dis enchanted the Soviet Union if we do the reverse. So you're
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making the argument we need to be on the moon because it's going to spawn we will
unidentified
make more money than we'll spend.
It's full of resources that aren't controlled by the Chinese and basically... What can we bring back from the moon that would help America?
It's full of metals, rare earth elements, titanium, things that we can't necessarily get easily.
When you look up at the moon, you see those craters that are created by asteroid cores, which are very often metallic.
And we know where they are.
You can mine them without ruining the rainforest or anything else.
And then there's the materials you need, like water, frankly, in order to stay on the moon and go further.
There are things we can make in space that will revolutionize our lives from replacement retinas for people with macular degeneration to replacement livers.
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Okay.
Hey!
Stay right here.
Greg Autry's not going anywhere.
When we come back, we're going to keep working through this.
This is a big topic for The War Room.
This is what we do on The War Room.
We go deep for you.
And there's politics here.
Kamala Harris's failure.
Gilligan's Island, Kamala.
unidentified
You did it.
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