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Aug. 9, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3820: Radical Walz Looking To Reform America
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chip roy
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ej antoni
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alex epstein
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Good morning, everybody.
Chip Roy here, temporarily sitting in the chair occupied by Steve Bannon.
We look forward to his return soon after his exile, in which he is standing up for you and for me, standing up for our children and our grandchildren against tyranny.
We thank him for it.
We're blessed for it.
And I know one of the things that you all want to listen to is some deeper understanding of the state of our economy, the state of the assault on your ability to live the American dream by the Biden-Harris regime.
That's what we're actually seeing right now.
We talked the first hour about this, what we're calling the worldview election, at least what I'm referring to as this worldview election.
Decidedly different view of the world, right?
National security, open borders, but importantly about the economy and our government's role in the economy.
And what we are seeing right now is a missing President Biden.
Where is Joe Biden.
What is he doing?
He's sitting in the basement.
Meanwhile, Kamala Harris is scrambling, trying to come up with a message on the economy, because there isn't one.
And they know it.
She keeps talking about what she's going to do.
Well, she is in the office of the vice president right now.
In fact, she is, effectively, might as well be the president, right?
Because Joe's missing.
So she can't hide behind what you're feeling as an average American out there.
And I talked about earlier about the price of an automobile.
The average price of an automobile being $48,000, but a third of American families make less than $50,000.
We all know that the national debt cracked this last month, $35 trillion for the first time in our history.
A trillion dollars of interest every year.
We are now spending more in interest than we are on the national defense.
Prices have increased over 20% under the Biden-Harris regime, the biggest increase in inflation since the 1970s stagflation.
And, importantly, this is being driven by a lot of the regulatory compliance by this administration with all the radical, progressive, Democrat climate change policies, adding $10,000 worth of costs per American household, according to a study by the University of Chicago.
Think about that.
I just glossed over that.
$10,000 of additional costs.
That's why you're feeling it.
Your health insurance is up.
Your cars cost more.
Your ability to own a home is going down because mortgage rates are high.
But now, what's happening with that?
What's the Fed going to do?
Is the Fed going to play games because it's an electoral season?
Yes, you can bet they are.
And I've got my good friend E.J.
Antoni from the Heritage Foundation, who is an expert on the economy, an expert on these kinds of policies.
And it's great to have you on the show, E.J.
How are you?
ej antoni ▲ ● ▼
Congressman, doing well.
Thank you so much for having me.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
No, honored to have you on the show.
And I just wondered if you could address that issue, specifically what you think the Fed's doing and whether they're going to play some political games as we head into the election season to try to make up for the mess that they've created out of the economy, making it nearly impossible for the average American family to be able to survive and to be able to get by.
And I'm wondering if you could expand on that.
ej antoni ▲ ● ▼
Absolutely.
You know, at this point, the Fed and the Treasury are really working hand in glove, I think, to try to get this administration, this failed administration, across the finish line, whether you're talking about yield curve control or whether you're talking about manipulating the bond market, whatever the case may be.
They are effectively trying to make things look better than they are.
One very good example of that is how they are shifting away from long-term debt to short-term debt.
There's a couple of reasons for that, one of which is they're trying to artificially push down the interest rate on mortgages so that it makes it look like homes are more affordable, even though we know that we're facing a home ownership affordability crisis right now.
But the other thing is that because Treasury bills have such a short duration.
In other words, you're lending money to the Treasury and you get it back within a matter of weeks, at most a year.
They are very oftentimes treated and traded like a cash asset, like a very liquid asset.
In other words, that makes it look like there's more cash in the financial system than there really is.
That can help boost asset prices like stocks, for example.
And so it can provide a temporary but strictly temporary stimulus to money markets.
Once again, this is all part of trying to make things look better than they are.
At this point, I think the best way, Congressman, to describe what the Fed and Treasury are doing is putting lipstick on a pig at every level you can possibly imagine throughout the financial system.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
So, unpack for me a little bit, and for the listener, what you think, from your observation, the sort of core problem is at the moment, right?
I mean, I've got my own observations as a member of Congress.
I'm not an economist.
But, you know, if you go back and you look at the 1970s and stagflation, and you saw a lot of the driving forces of some of that, you had some, like, union wage pressure increases, you had regulatory issues, you also had very high marginal tax rates, right?
You had 70% top marginal tax rate under Carter, which then Ronald Reagan dropped.
There's the famous Laffer curve and all the changes in the early 80s dropped to a top
marginal rate of closer to 30%.
And so that was part of spurring economic growth along with other tax changes.
But there was also regulatory changes and other things to undo the burdens being caused
by the radical progressive Democrat regime of the day under the Carter administration
in the late 70s.
Can you unpack where we are today in 2024 and what a president Trump administration
will be staring at on January 20th?
And what do we do?
Like, let's kind of lay out for the American people, hey, this is going to be how we're
going to aggressively get economic growth back and restore the American dream.
ej antoni ▲ ● ▼
Well, not only did the Trump tax cuts help spur at least some economic growth, but even
more so what they did during the Trump administration was regulatory reform.
This is an area where, frankly, I don't think the Trump admin gets anywhere near enough credit.
I'm so glad you brought up regulation, Congressman, because under the Trump administration, Again, through reform, they were able to reduce regulatory costs, something that hadn't been done essentially in a generation.
They were able to reduce regulatory costs in average of $2,000 per household per year of that administration.
But we've seen exactly the opposite under this administration, under the Biden-Harris team, where you have seen an increase of $5,000 per household per year in regulatory costs.
And so, yes, it's true.
People are earning more today.
But between inflation from the Fed printing money and regulatory costs pushing prices up even further, all of those wage gains have been completely wiped out.
And that's despite the fact that we have actually seen some increases in productivity recently.
In other words, Families today are working harder than ever before.
They're working more than ever before, and yet they're able to buy less than they could just four years ago.
And that shows you just how much the government has grown.
And I guess that's a long-winded way of going back to the original question you had, Congressman, which is, what is our primary problem today?
Too much government.
Too much government spending.
People need to realize every dime of government spending is paid for.
You may pay for it through taxes.
You may pay for it through inflation.
But whatever the case, you will pay for it.
And every time the federal budget increases, the family budget decreases.
That's a zero-sum game.
Government can't spend a dime unless it takes it from you first.
And so you have to remember, again, every time someone tries to sell you a government program or a new government spending package saying, we're going to give X, Y, and Z goodies to these different people, maybe even yourself, remember you're paying for that at the end of the day.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
EJ, I appreciate that very much because I think that's lost for a lot of Americans.
They hear, you know, what we're debating in policy up here.
Going back to what the Trump administration do in deregulating and dropping down the cost of regulations, we now just have the important Chevron ruling by the Supreme Court now gives us greater tools in Congress and frankly in the executive branch.
We're able to go push back now and be able to say, look, Congress is going to control some of this, but we have more power to be able to head in in January and deconstruct this regulatory state.
My next guest after you is going to be my good friend Alex Epstein, but I wondered if you might kind of help set the stage, right?
For what we're talking about in terms of all of that regulatory costs.
The issue with respect to energy policy, right?
The issue with respect to The Inflation Reduction Act, so-called Inflation Reduction Act, and all of the subsidies that have gone into funding China and funding, you know, wind projects and solar projects, which are actually more costly energy.
The fact that our cars are more expensive.
The tailpipe rule that's going to make EVs be two-thirds of the average of the American fleet by 2032, which will drive up the cost of automobiles because EVs are more expensive, more expensive to repair, and less efficient for the average family.
The average family of four that's struggling.
Can you set the stage for what we're facing and how aggressive we need to be?
And then one final point on the spending point.
We're $35 trillion in debt.
We're bleeding out $2 trillion a year.
How important is it for us when we come in, especially if we're going to do a tax relief, if we're going to extend some portions or all of some of the tax breaks from President Trump in 2017, how important and critical is it for us to restrain spending in order to drive inflation down?
How important is it for us to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act in full, which would save us about $800 billion so we can use that to offset some of the tax relief for economic growth?
ej antoni ▲ ● ▼
Well, Congressman, it's so key that when we reduce government revenue that we also reduce government spending.
The last time we really did this was back in the 1920s, actually, and that was a key ingredient to the boom of the 1920s, was the fact that you were shrinking government, but you were also shrinking government, again, not just in terms of how much they were taking from you, but how much they were spending.
If you don't do that, then you create those massive deficits and you provide this huge incentive for the Federal Reserve to create the money that the Treasury needs to borrow.
And that's how we get 40-year high inflation like we've been dealing with for the last several years.
That's how you get a cost-of-living crisis.
That's how you get these violent swings in interest rates.
Where you enticed families with low interest rates to go into mountains of debt, and now with high interest rates, they're basically trapped there forever.
They can never afford a home.
They can never get out of credit card debt, etc.
So in terms of how important it is that we claw back some of this unspent revenue, that's going to be a key ingredient to try to dig us out of this massive hole that the Biden-Harris administration, and frankly, Congress as well, has gotten us into over the last several years.
You said earlier, we're spending over a trillion dollars a year just in interest on the debt.
That's not paying a dime towards principal.
You're not paying off the debt.
You're just servicing it.
I mean, this is absolutely extraordinary, and it is going to be a choke collar around the economic neck of this country if we don't get it under control.
Now, regarding energy, one of the reasons why it's so important to deregulate that,
unlike the rest of the world where they use oil for a lot of their chemical blend stocks,
we use natural gas because it's so incredibly cheap for us to get it out of the ground,
especially in places like Pennsylvania, where Kamala Harris now wants to kill the natural
gas industry in that state entirely.
But with natural gas, you get all kinds of chemicals that you can use for everything
from making polyester fibers for clothing to the plastics that surround your cell phone
or your laptop computer, whatever the case may be, pharmaceuticals, you name it.
And so if you can reduce the price of so ubiquitous an input as natural gas.
Through reducing regulation, you end up reducing cost pressures throughout the entire economy.
So we should remember that a lot of these energy sources aren't just used for energy.
They're used for almost everything in our lives.
And that's why it's so important that we get those costs down.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
In addition to driving down the cost by making sure we put in the right kind of policy with respect to energy to get energy prices down, just one closing kind of question and thought for you, which is, when we're dealing with those kinds of impacts on the average American family, expand just real quick on, you know, you talked about driving down the regulatory cost, what President Trump was able to do.
How critical is that component in terms of economic growth?
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Okay?
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Because that's one of the things that's going to get lost.
Everybody's going to be talking about a tax bill in January.
And look, I'm for whatever tax relief we can provide for the hardworking family out there, okay?
Not necessarily interested in it for every corporation that's advancing their ESG agenda and all their garbage on the American people.
But I want to make sure there's economic growth potential.
But the regulatory issue How much of a factor is that in driving down our ability to have economic growth?
ej antoni ▲ ● ▼
We have to remember, Congressman, this is a really good question.
We have to remember that when you're talking about, let's say, a trillion dollars in regulatory costs versus a trillion dollars in taxes, the regulatory costs are infinitely more harmful.
The reason is, is because that's just simply lost economic activity.
If the government is going to take a trillion dollars from you, they are ultimately going to spend it.
Now, they're going to spend it inefficiently, right?
They're not going to spend it in an efficient manner.
There will be wasted resources in that process, but they're never going to waste a hundred percent of it.
Even if they waste 90% of it, let's say, which does happen sometimes, don't get me wrong.
It's still not as bad as wasting all of it.
But that's what happens with this regulation.
Those regulatory costs represent economic activity that just vanishes.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Thank you, brother.
I appreciate it.
We're gonna have Alex Epson on in just one minute to talk about
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Great to be sitting here in the war room temporarily holding the chair held by Steve Bannon, who's out there fighting for you and me, and we're deeply appreciative for it.
I am deeply appreciative to have my friend Alex Epstein on the line to talk about what I refer to as energy freedom.
There is probably no better voice out there for explaining human flourishing and the extent to which the average American, particularly now, benefits from Expansive energy freedom and the ability to afford energy and get the products that come from it.
Alex has been doing this for a long time.
He and I have been working together for, I don't know, almost a decade, I think.
And I'm deeply appreciative to have him on.
How are you, brother?
unidentified
Doing great.
Looking forward to the discussion.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Well, great to have you here.
Congratulations.
You're a new dad, right?
A couple months ago, I think.
unidentified
Yeah, seven and a half weeks in.
Yeah, yeah, great.
It's a lot of fun.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Well, that's great.
Well, look, let's just jump right in.
We just had E.J.
in talking about the extent to which the sort of regulatory environment is crushing the American economy.
And I want to get in zero in on what we've been seeing out of the Biden-Harris administration and what we're seeing currently in terms of the regulatory impact of All of the stuff going on in energy, right?
We're talking about the tailpipe rule, which is going to mandate EVs by 2032.
We're talking about the Inflation Production Act, where you've got subsidies.
And one of the things I want the audience to hear from you is, like, you're not coming at this from a particular political agenda, necessarily, as much as just speaking truth, and speaking truth about what it means for the average human being.
Right, that humans flourish when we have abundant available energy.
This administration has been restricting the availability of abundant, reliable energy, and rather than allowing us to flourish with available gas, available, I know you're big on nuclear, can you talk a little bit about that, about what that means for the average American family, how the American dream is getting restricted by pursuit of this, what is in fact a political agenda, and rather what we could do instead with true energy freedom?
unidentified
Sure.
I mean, I think a key aspect of the American dream is just having a certain level of prosperity.
So the idea that, well, if you work hard, you do the right things, you can sort of fairly easily support a family.
You can do work that you like, but you can also have recreational time.
You can do all sorts of different things with your social network and community.
And what people need to realize is this kind of life, there's a lot of
things undercutting it right now.
We have to realize this is a fairly new thing, and it comes from
prosperity.
And fundamentally, prosperity comes from freedom, because freedom
allows us to use our ideas to figure out how to become more productive
and prosperous.
But to be a little more specific, prosperity comes from energy
freedom, because energy freedom is the ability to innovate and
create in the realm of energy.
And energy is machinery, machine food or machine calories.
So energy is what we feed our machines that make us productive and prosperous.
Without machines, life is terrible because the world is a pretty inhospitable place.
Human beings aren't very productive.
And so we just have manual labor.
So the key division between a poor society and a prosperous society, besides freedom
versus non-freedom, is having machines that are producing a lot of value for us.
So you can think of it when energy is cheaper, everything that we produce with machines,
which means everything is cheaper.
When energy is more expensive, everything is more expensive.
This is why you've seen a lot of the inflation be energy-driven.
Don't think of energy just in terms of what you pay for gasoline, what you pay for your power bill, what you pay for your heating bill.
Those are very significant.
But think of it as this literally affects the cost of every single thing you do.
So when you see your food prices go up, you should ask yourself, well, Is it more expensive to feed tractors?
Is it more expensive to feed trucks?
Is it more expensive to grow, you know, the actual feed for livestock?
Is it more expensive to refrigerate things?
And if you start to see the whole world in terms of machines that our productivity and prosperity depend on, and then energy is the input that makes those machines cheaper and more expensive, you start to see the price of energy determines the price of everything.
And when you experience economic struggle, you can bet that bad energy policy, and particularly restrictions on the freedom to produce and consume energy, you can be sure that that's a big cause of your problems.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
So Alex, on that point, let's be kind of blunt here.
I'm not asking you to be political per se, but is it advisable, understanding what you just said, is it advisable for us to have the government come in and pick winners and losers and provide, in the case of the Inflation Reduction Act, a trillion dollars of subsidies massively distorting the market in favor of wind and solar, which are more inefficient and unreliable, And distorting the price point that doesn't allow for the context of reliable natural gas or reliable nuclear.
And similarly, the tailpipe rule, which will distort the market to say that, well, you're going to go do assembly lines to produce nothing but EVs.
Would you agree that those two policies are particularly damaging when it comes to the ability to drive prices down and have prosperity, economic growth and be able to have the American dream be achieved?
unidentified
Definitely those policies are really bad.
I'd say one thing about not being political in terms of not having a party affiliation or supporting particular candidates or anything like that is I can say that the policies that are being pursued under the current administration are just totally beyond the pale and should never be considered.
My criticism is in general that both parties are woefully inadequate.
when it comes to energy.
Now, I think EJ mentioned the previous Trump administration did a lot of good on energy.
And that is, they did do a lot of good on energy, probably on that issue,
more than any president in many, many decades, maybe even generations.
And one of the key things that they did was, which needs to be done much more,
is they were particularly focused on regulation, but what I would call restrictions or shackling.
So you mentioned in particular, the IRA and the subsidy.
So I think of it as the government intervenes and ruins our economy in two basic ways.
It can subsidize things, so it takes our money to pay for things
that are not cost-effective, but it can shackle them.
It restricts our freedom to produce things, period.
And the shackles are the most destructive thing.
So, for example, in the 70s, we had this huge opportunity with oil in Alaska, but a Republican, actually, Richard Nixon, among doing many bad things to the economy, after the Santa Barbara oil spill, panicked And shut down the pipeline that was going to be built to Alaska that, by the way, would have brought as much oil on the market as Saudi Arabia took off the market during the embargoes.
So it's like when you shackle the economy, that is the worst possible thing.
You mentioned nuclear.
We used to have a prosperous, cheap nuclear industry.
We destroyed it, not by subsidies, But by making it basically impossible to build nuclear because of a bunch of pseudo-scientific ideas that basically say any amount of radiation is dangerous, so we basically can't allow nuclear to exist without impossibly expensive restrictions.
So I would think of it as the number one thing is to unshackle energy and then to de-subsidize energy.
So I said these recent things are just beyond the pale because What a proper administration should have done following the Trump administration was say, great, we made some progress, but we need radically more progress to use the current term, which I like, unleash American energy.
There's so much more that we can do in terms of removing irrational regulations.
There's so much more we can do in terms of unleashing American oil and natural gas.
There's so much more we can do In terms of having affordable, reliable electricity.
There's so much more that we can do in terms of nuclear.
But instead, what they'd said is, I guarantee you we're going to end fossil fuel.
That was one of Biden's campaign slogans.
He ran with somebody who pledged to ban fracking, who was one of the co-sponsors of the Green New Deal.
And what you see with this administration is an administration that does not value energy.
That's the key.
Some people hate energy.
A lot of the people who influence them actually hate energy.
We could talk about that.
I don't think Biden or Harris hates energy.
They just don't really care.
What they care about is the side effects of using energy, particularly what they'll call climate change.
So the climate impacts of putting more CO2 in the atmosphere.
And fundamentally, their focus is let's protect the earth from human industry.
Versus, let's use human industry to benefit human life.
And that's a very big philosophical difference.
And it's a very important one.
We need our elected officials to recognize that industry is a crucial force for human life, including human health.
And the idea that you're going to shackle industry and you're going to claim that it benefits human health, that's just as logical as if you shackled the caveman from using fire and say, hey, it's for your health because you won't have any smoke.
Yeah, you won't have as much smoke because you won't live.
You won't be able to cook your food.
You won't be able to heat your life.
So we need a fundamental philosophical change from anti-industry to pro-industry, which ultimately leads to anti-human to pro-human.
And that needs to be manifested in a whole bunch of specific unshackling, which we could talk about because my group has been working on a blueprint for that.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Alex, I appreciate it very much.
How can people hear more about you?
EnergyTalkingPoints.com.
I encourage people to go back and look at that website.
Alex, where are you on social media?
alex epstein ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, at AlexEpstein on Twitter, at AlexEpsteinEnergy on Instagram, and yeah, that website, EnergyTalkingPoints.com, make sure to sign up for the free weekly newsletter.
unidentified
We're just putting out summer talking points on things like gasoline prices, electricity prices, summer heat, etc., and our blueprint, which is called the Energy Freedom Platform, we're going to be rolling that out, so just follow along at EnergyTalkingPoints.com, sign up for the newsletter, and you'll be good to go.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Alex, thanks for all you do.
Thanks for standing up for energy freedom.
Thanks for joining us today, brother.
Talk to you soon.
unidentified
Thanks, Jeff.
Talk to you soon.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
But well, one of the things that I want to talk about, we're talking about this
like radical ideology out of the Biden Harris regime is I want to make sure
that people understand what we got when we were having her choose Tim Waltz as
the vice president nominee. Uh, and what that means.
And we're going to have Julio Rosas, who's going to be able to talk to us about the Minneapolis burning in 2020.
20. And do we have Julio on the line?
Well, Julio has been doing a lot of reporting.
He did a lot of great reporting throughout all of the BLM riots in 2020.
He's going to talk about specifically what we addressed and what we dealt with there in Minneapolis, and the extent to which it was the radical progressive Democrat policies that encouraged it, that allowed it to foment, that allowed all of those Continued burnings.
You have that important picture that we have, the graphic where we see where we had the police department sitting there.
It was literally on fire.
And you have the Minnesota governor and the leadership of that city allowing it to occur.
You had Kamala Harris who was out saying, please give money.
She was encouraging it.
We'll be talking about that when we get back.
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Hollywood coming at you!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
War Room!
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Great to be with you this morning.
Great to be sitting here in War Room.
Again, temporarily sitting in Steve Bannon's chair, looking forward to his return, praying for him, making sure that we keep him at the forefront of your thoughts.
And we're blessed to have with us a good friend, someone who has been out there focusing hard and was out there throughout all of 2020.
He's written a book about it, Julio Rosas, who has focused on the extent to which our cities were allowed to burn, particularly Minneapolis notably important right now given the extent to which one of Kamala Harris's first decisions as the Democrat nominee is to choose Governor Walz for her vice presidential running mate who was in Minnesota when it was burning to the ground.
And Julio had first-hand experience in terms of what happened.
Julio, thanks for being on the show.
We've been talking in this show about the different worldviews that are at stake in this election.
Whether it's the border, whether it's our presence around the globe, whether it's the economy, the extent to which the average American is hurting, the American dream is unretainable, we've got dangers on our streets, people being released into our country, they're on the terrorist watch list.
But importantly, people don't feel safe in their own communities.
And what we saw in the summer of 2020, I think is as emblematic of that as anything.
Could you explain a little bit and walk through what you know about Governor Walz and about
what happened in Minneapolis?
And be very blunt about what you observed.
unidentified
Well, yeah, Congressman, I mean, all that started in 2020 in Minneapolis under Walz's
watch.
The mayor also has many faults when it comes to how the riots were handled, but Walz is at the top when it comes to the state of Minnesota.
And so, I mean, I was outside the third precinct the night it had to be evacuated and was set on fire.
And one thing that I remember in the hours leading up to that, because I was posting updates on, The crazy things that were happening even before that.
And so many people, I still remember so many people asking me, where was the National Guard?
Where was the Minnesota National Guard?
We heard that they're deploying.
Do you see them?
And they weren't out there that day.
And I have spoken to members of the Minneapolis Police Department who defended for days the
3rd Precinct until that Thursday.
And they were frustrated because the defense plans were not great.
They were constrained in their ability to adequately defend the 3rd Precinct.
But they did say that they could have held that position if they just had more personnel.
And obviously the Minneapolis Police Department was stretched really thin, so there wasn't a lot of reinforcements available to them through that agency.
And if they had the National Guard to back them up, the police station wouldn't have been set on fire, and it wouldn't have, most importantly, set the tone for the rest of the country, for the rest of the far leftists, Antifa, and BLM, because After that police station was evacuated, people across the country saw, oh, we can do that in our own cities.
And that almost happened a few times after that.
With Seattle, a couple days later, with the infamous Chas Chop experiment, was created almost as a direct result of what happened in Minneapolis.
And so, It is kind of like a sick irony or a sick twist of fate that, you know, walls allow this to happen.
And, you know, Vice President Kamala Harris did her best to try to bail people out who partook in that.
So it's very interesting that four years later we're still dealing and we're still seeing the effects of what happened four years ago.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Julio, real quick, I think I've got my friend Corey Mills on the line.
Corey, my fellow congressman from Florida.
Corey, are you on the line?
unidentified
I'm on here, brother.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Hey, great to have you on, brother.
I just want to get us in kind of a three-way conversation.
I know you and I are going to talk a little bit about the assassination attempt, but it's all connected, right?
It's all connected to the utter lawlessness, the utter disgrace of this administration and how they're running the show.
And now you have the vice president, who is now the Democratic nominee, comes in and picks this avowed socialist, radical progressive Democrat, governor from Minnesota.
And we know we've got Julio here who was there on the streets in Minneapolis, right?
Watching unfold right in front of him what happened.
We got the police station burning to the ground.
We've been talking for the last hour and change about how they're letting the economy burn to the ground, the average American family can't afford to live, they're allowing our national security to burn to the ground, they're allowing Our homeland security to burn to the ground.
They're importing terrorists into our country.
And Julio saw this in real terms.
Now, Julio is a Marine.
Corey, you served.
You were a sniper.
We're going to talk about the assassination attempt in a minute.
But can you talk, Corey, real quick?
And then I want to go back to you, Julio, to fill in some of the holes.
Corey, about what you saw, just because you ran for Congress after this.
You were motivated to run to save your country.
After you served, you wore the uniform.
Talk a little bit about what you saw in 2020, BLM, and how Harris-Waltz is emblematic of a totally different worldview, a worldview of lawlessness, a worldview of endangering Americans, and see if you can paint that picture a little bit, why that caused you to run, and why you think that's a problem for America.
unidentified
Well, look, like you talked about, Chip, and I know Julio.
I've watched some of the stuff that he's done.
I've read his book.
The guy's been on fire, so good for you, Marine, hurrah.
But look, the bottom line is that I, after leaving the military and
leaving the State Department and agencies and so on and so forth,
went on to create a company that was actually made to help support our military
and our law enforcement.
And what we saw in the 2020 summer of love, if they try to call it,
which was actually a complete lawlessness in Minneapolis, in Seattle,
when we had CHOP, in New York, in Baltimore, in all your major
blue city metropolitan areas, was this continuation of victimhood,
even though they were actually vilifying our law enforcement departments.
I look to our Republican Party and I look to others to where are we to be able to raise our voice, to be able to try and defend our brave men and women in blue.
And when they were reaching out to us, these individual departments, Chip, they were saying, we're out of our less lethal materials.
We don't have another emergency budget for this.
Is there anything we can do?
Our company at the time was able to be able to provide almost $500,000 between all of these individual cities and riot control, less lethals, marker rounds, CS canisters, and all the things necessary for riot control and riot gear.
And we were like, well, where is the rest of the government?
Where's the cities?
Where's the mayors?
Where's the governors?
Well, we knew where they were.
You had radical socialist Waltz, who was actually working with Kamala Harris on a Minnesota
bail fund, not to support our law enforcement, to support the criminals who are actually
being arrested for committing these crimes.
And so when I saw this lawlessness, this defund the police nonsense that they're now trying
to cover up, this idea that only lives that matter are the criminals, not the actual innocent
civilians, we had businesses being burned down, we had law enforcement officers being
killed, we had women who were being sexually assaulted and chopped that have never been
released.
And so I felt like just that it was my duty no longer just rely on the everyday politician,
but to be a statesman and representative who puts my money where my mouth is, gets into
the fight and make sure we can save this nation.
Because when we take that uniform off ship, and Julio will tell you this, that doesn't mean our oath expires.
We will continue to fight to preserve this nation.
I care more about protecting this republic than protecting a title or protecting a seat.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
And Cory, just so everybody knows, Cory's in a primary.
He's got one coming up here in Florida on August 20th.
We're all down there rooting for him, and I know he's going to do well, but you're down in Florida.
Make sure you get on support, Cory.
Yeah, God bless you, my friend.
And, like, Julio, on that point, you know, the story is there was over $2 billion in damage as a result of the riots and the BLM riots in the summer of 2020.
As Corey just said, and as you alluded to, the vice president, our current vice president, Kamala Harris, the Democrat nominee, she was trying to help the rioters.
She was out trying to raise money for the rioters.
But now you've got the governor of Minnesota.
That's who she picked, her first major decision.
Would you agree with me that it was the governor of Minnesota who basically kicked off That summer of destruction for the United States by not acting.
In other words, had the governor acted, had the governor done what he needed to do, that we could have avoided the chaos that summer or certainly tamped the temperature down.
You wrote a book about it.
I just wonder what your thoughts are.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, when this all kicked off, the main thing was COVID, right?
I mean, that's what everyone was focused on.
That's what I was focused on in my reporting.
And so my initial thought was, okay, I'm going to go to Minneapolis, I'm going to cover this, it's going to eventually die down, and then I'll go back to doing what I was doing before.
Um, and then obviously that wasn't the case, because then we had CHOP.
I went to Atlanta.
When I got back home to D.C., that's when they tried to tear down the Andrew Jackson statue outside the White House.
Then we had Kenosha.
We had Wauwatosa.
I mean, it just kept going on and on and on.
And so it came to the part where I started to think, is this ever going to stop?
And it finally did the following year, but the damage was done.
And so that's why I wrote my book.
As you can see, it's right here.
Because not only was it important to document all my experiences because I was one of the few people who went out there consistently, but it was also because the media coverage was absolutely atrocious.
I mean, that's the title of my book, right?
Came from that CNN chyron, fired mostly peaceful in Kenosha,
which was, I mean, anything but.
And so again, that's why it's so important to highlight just how disastrous Walz was because that was the start.
That was what kicked things off.
And yes, he did call the National Guard, but the entire time he kept saying, oh, well, the rioters and all these people that are doing all this stuff, their anger is justified because X, Y, and Z. And I can tell you, because I've interviewed small business owners in Minneapolis after the fact for the book, They had to take up arms to defend their livelihoods.
There were Latino business owners who held down an intersection on Lake Street, which was the main street that got hit the hardest, because there was nothing.
There was nobody to protect them.
They had to use AR-15 shotguns and handguns to protect themselves.
They were essentially the rooftop Latinos, like the rooftop Koreans in the Los Angeles riots in 92.
It's very frustrating to see basically someone get rewarded with this potential new high-profile position on just this one issue, because obviously there's many other issues he's been terrible on.
But he's basically being rewarded for his handling of this when he should be fired.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Well thanks Julio, and you know I will say that probably an entire War Room show needs to be dedicated to the Second Amendment being the only bulwark that's out there against the tyranny that's flying around this planet and how much we need to defend it.
But I do want to say one thing, and if you can answer quickly and I want to go to Corey, this issue of stolen valor, this issue of, because you wore the uniform, Corey wore the uniform, without getting into the weeds, you don't have to like litigate it to death, Are you troubled just you know are you troubled by the governor and his I'm just gonna say looseness with the facts I'll let you guys who wore the uniform be more specific but are you troubled by the way he's characterized his service and and then I want to go to Corey have you answer that and then talk a little about assassination but who are you bothered by that?
unidentified
Absolutely.
So for me personally, I was in the reserves kind of like him in the Marine Corps.
I never deployed.
I did six years and then I got out on the discharge.
And the reason why, I hate people who commit stolen valor for obvious reasons, but I have a particular disgust for service members who commit that because civilians who commit stolen valor, they don't really get it.
That's kind of why they do it in the first place because they think, oh, it's cool and we need to do this.
But service members who commit stolen valor or who embellish their records, similar to how Waltz did, They know better.
They at least have some idea of the sacrifices and the commitment that is to be made and paid for the claims that they're making.
And yet they still go out and do it.
So for them and people like them to do that is just absolutely disgusting.
And for me, like I said, I never really did anything.
I'm still proud of my service.
I'm still proud to be a Marine.
But I don't call myself a global war on terrorism veteran because I didn't deploy it and fight in that campaign.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Well, thank you, Julio.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you for what you've done going out there on the streets and exposing all this.
If you don't have it, get his book, Fiery.
Corey, what about you?
Can you talk a little bit about your concerns about Stolen Valor and the governor of Minnesota?
unidentified
Well look, at the end of the day, I appreciate that Waltz has served 24 years.
I'm not taking anything away from that.
But he knows better than any, having actually served that long, that you cannot maintain the rank of Command Sergeant Major without having attended the Sergeant Major's Academy.
And so, even if he would have said, I held the Sergeant Major billet, But I was demoted back to Master Sergeant.
Okay, I can accept that.
Yeah, you held that role.
My bigger issue in this is that he didn't try to correct the record and even went on to try and deny that he abandoned his actual troop or his battalion whenever they're getting ready to deploy to Iraq after he found out.
Look, he continues to say, well, I dropped my retirement paperwork way before this.
Let me give you a quick history lesson.
I actually was at the end of my terminal service and I didn't have enough time to be qualified to deploy to Iraq.
I had to go to my brigade commander and plead with him to do a one-time six-month extension that allowed me to have enough time to deploy to where once you're in wartime is declared your stop-loss and I could then fight with my unit.
If he truly wanted to have stood by his unit, if he truly wanted to go to war to protect his guys, He, as a Command Sergeant Major Billet, or a Master Sergeant after demoted, could have easily have done this.
I've done it.
Many others have done it.
I don't want to hear him talk about anything but his abandonment.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Hey Corey, stay on.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Well, good morning, everybody.
It's Chip Roy again, honored to be sitting in Steve Bannon's chair, but only temporarily while we wait for him to return after he's in exile, standing up for all of us and standing against tyranny.
But I'm also honored to have my good friend Corey Mills on the line.
Corey, we were just talking about the governor of Minnesota letting the streets of his city burn, kicking off the summer of destruction and the BLM riots in the summer of 2020.
That's what America would be looking forward to with him as the vice president and Kamala Harris in the White House.
That's why we have to get President Trump elected this fall.
I know that's why you're out campaigning right now for everybody down there in Florida to make sure you get the nomination and you win in the fall.
But I want to have you speak just for a minute about the assassination attempt.
You were a sniper.
We just had a task force that was created.
Now neither you nor Eli Crane, who I had on the show a week ago, who's also a sniper, were included on that task force.
Can you speak a little bit about your concerns that we're not moving fast enough to expose this for the American people so they know the truth?
I mean, let's be clear.
A former president of the United States, Donald Trump, and the current Republican nominee for president was shot less than a month ago, or about a month ago.
That happened.
Now, what are we doing about it?
Can you speak to that, my brother?
unidentified
Yeah, look, let me just go ahead and first start off by saying that, you know, while we are the Big Tent Party, we are also, within our own leadership sometimes, the party of hypocrisy.
Look, we talk about how we hate DEI and this idea that we're supposed to be looking at equity and inclusion, and yet we'll actually make a task force that's selected by what seats are at risk.
Who voted with leadership?
What state are you actually from?
That has nothing to do with meritocracy, because if it was, I can tell you that I talked to Command Sergeant Major Ken Cristo, who used to be my team leader.
He was a JSOC Sergeant Major, and he actually was the guy who went in to rescue Jessica Lynch in Iraq.
I asked him, I said, how many of these advances in counter snipers have we done as far as operations?
He said, I will comfortably go on record to say at least a thousand of these.
So I've done at least a thousand of these types of advances for foreign dignitaries, for heads of state, all the way through.
And meanwhile, that experience and that merit wasn't rewarded to try and get on this task force to find the truth.
Same with Eli Crane.
You have a sniper who was with the Navy SEALs who wasn't actually brought into this.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
And why?
unidentified
Because we're not necessarily yes-men who just go along and hand our voter card over.
You know this all too well, Chip.
You fight the battle every day.
But the reality is that when they picked the seven members of this team, I had four of them reach out to me and say, one, can you get us your whistleblowers?
Two, we hate that you're not on the task force, but can you tell me what questions I would ask?
And how would you run this investigation to add insult to injury?
And look, I'm all about getting the answers.
But the problem is that I find it unserious whenever we released our 18-minute documentary where I laid, where Thomas Crooks took the shot on the 20th panel, where we looked at exactly where the two counter-sniper positions that are being identified had a silhouette or profile and what was that, where we talked to individuals from local law enforcement and from retired FBI agents on the ground.
And the bottom line is, is that this congressional task force, after that documentary was released, I had a member text me and say, Great job.
Keep going.
The Congressional Task Force hasn't even had a conference call yet.
This is unserious when we talk about the amount of time that's going on.
Look, here's my concern now, Chip.
The day of the shooting, we should have been bringing people in asking for the security plan, the comms plan, the sniper, counter snipers, data book and range fan.
We should have been looking at what was the communication strategy with local law enforcement for a single channel communication for emergency.
What was the hard room plan when it came to whether they had a safe haven or they're going to utilize the armored vehicles as their hard room?
What was the actual idea for their evacuation strategy?
And who actually conducted the overall advanced plan?
Now you've actually allowed three, four weeks to go where no doubt there's people who are actually memorializing these types of plans to say 11 July, 10 July, 9 July.
But now you got our local law enforcement who's come forward and said, hey, guess what?
They weren't even there on the meeting that morning to try and coordinate and get last minute plans.
You heard on the recently released body cam where a guy from the local law enforcement saying, why didn't you have guys up there?
We told you on Tuesday, you should have had guys all up there.
Now you got other videos which have showed, which you haven't verified yet, of an individual who looks like they're either on a motorbike or a bicycle who's coming out of this wood line by the water tower.
I've walked that wood line.
I know there's a cut-through path that goes to the intersection where the AGR building goes and where the main road to the actual campaign rally event was.
So I know there's an easy access point that avoided law enforcement.
So, you have all of these facts, you have all of these points, you've had so much time going on, and we couldn't sit by any longer.
And Chip, I appreciate you more than ever.
You're a part of our new task force, we're gonna call it America's Task Force.
You, Andy Biggs, guys like Dan Bongino, guys like Eric Prince, Kash Patel, Eli Crane, myself, we're gonna get the answers to this, but we're gonna get to a stage, and Benny as well, I can't leave out Benny Johnson, where it's gonna be indistinguishable between criminal gross negligence And purposeful intent.
We've waited too much time to start getting those answers, and now they've had enough time to start doing CYA and putting the documents together.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
Corey, I agree with your brother.
Go win, go fight win, go win your race down there in Florida.
What is your Twitter handle?
unidentified
Our Twitter handle is CoreyMillsFL, also RepMillsPress for our official.
chip roy ▲ ● ▼
All right.
Thank you, brother.
We'll meet soon.
We'll put that task force together.
Now I want to turn to our friend Mike Lindell, who's from Minnesota.
He's seen the streets burning at the hands of Governor Walz.
He's a good friend, a good friend of the show.
Mike, thank you.
The show's yours, brother.
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Well thanks, and I'll tell you everybody, I'm very grateful actually that Walsh was picked for VP because he's going to get exposed, but we all know in Minnesota of who he is and this is going to help our great real president get back in.
I think he's made a comment the other day.
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Thank you, brother.
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Honored to be here in the chair, again, temporarily.
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As I said last time, remember this, work and pray.
That's what we're called to do.
Let's get the job done.
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