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July 25, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3782: The Coup Within The Biden Administration
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ben harnwell
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josh hammer
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derek harvey
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unidentified
This has to be put on the table.
When this happens, and this is going to happen, how do you transfer power to Kamala Harris?
And quite frankly, how is the fix in on this thing in the first place?
Right?
donald j trump
There's people in there.
unidentified
They're smart enough.
donald j trump
They know exactly what's going on.
unidentified
McCormick's been around.
donald j trump
They know what's going on.
The media knows what's going on.
That's why they're all, you know, stepping back.
It's all playing kick gloves.
It's patty cake in there right now.
This is a crisis, a constitutional crisis.
unidentified
And now we have crises bearing down on us.
donald j trump
Just a few months.
unidentified
The American people choose the course of America's future.
donald j trump
I made my choice.
joe scarborough
I've made my views known.
unidentified
I'd like to thank our great Vice President Kamala Harris.
joe scarborough
She's experienced.
She's tough.
donald j trump
She's capable.
unidentified
She's been an incredible partner to me and a leader for our country.
Now the choice is up to you, the American people.
Not only did Joe Biden have the judgment this week to say, this is my time to leave, much as I'd like to hold on to another term, but he did something that's really rare in presidential history.
And I think we haven't reflected on that enough.
People may think that American history is full of all sorts of presidents saying this should be my successor.
Here's the person and I'm going to make it possible.
That almost never happens.
Look all the way back to 1900.
Very few presidents have done that.
Theodore Roosevelt said to Republicans, I think it should be William Howard Taft.
Bill Clinton said to Democrats in 2000, I think my successor should be Al Gore.
But that's really very rare.
What has Joe Biden done?
He said, I want to hand off power to Kamala Harris, who I think is best equipped to deal with it.
And I'm going to help to make it possible by endorsing it.
And so did Jill Biden today.
Let's reflect on how unusual and self-sacrificing it is for a president who was leading to do that.
The final test of a leader always is how he or she passes power on to the next generation.
He asked the question, does character still matter?
Well, it does tonight.
It does tonight.
The kid with the stutter did good.
He did good.
That's a good man.
He fell on his sword.
He fell on his sword.
Most heroes, they fight to the bitter end.
He fell on his sword.
He's an old guy, but the heart's still there, you know?
The words aren't as clear.
But the love is clear.
The heart is still there.
donald j trump
If Bordasar Harris stays in charge, every week we'll bring a never-ending stream of illegal alien rapists, bloodthirsty killers, and child predators to go after our sons and our daughters.
That's what's going to happen.
Everybody knows that.
unidentified
You're not going to talk these people into being wonderful citizens.
donald j trump
If I'm elected, we will immediately deputize local police, who are dying to do the job, by the way, but their power has been taken away.
And we'll form a massive dragnet to scour the nation for the monsters who are murdering and raping children all over the world.
Many of them have come here because they're looking for them in their own countries for rape, for murder, for all sorts of things.
And we will ship them back to the country from which they came.
unidentified
We're going to get them out of here.
donald j trump
Police officers of legal protections ending jail sentences for parole violators.
And in 2020, she helped raise $35 million to bail out criminals released from jail after they shot at our police, looted stores, sexually assaulted innocent victims, and committed many other very serious crimes.
She was giving them money and bailing them out.
But let's talk about that speech last night.
unidentified
Do you think we learned why Joe Biden left, decided not to run against you?
donald j trump
Well, I think it was a coup.
They didn't want him running.
He was way down in the polls, and they thought he was going to lose.
They went to him, and they said, you can't win the race, which I think is true, unless I did something very foolish, which I wasn't going to do.
And I think he was so far down, and they said, you're not going to win, and you're not in great shape, and you did poorly in the debate.
I think the debate started everything.
It really started the fall, if he didn't have the debate.
And remember, they challenged me.
I didn't challenge them.
They said, let's have a debate.
They gave me everything I didn't want from Jake Tapper to everybody else on CNN, and I said, I'll take it.
Because I was surprised that he was willing to debate, so we debated.
It didn't turn out well, but it really began from the debate.
And the ratings, his approval numbers went very bad.
I was beating them by a lot, and all of a sudden you could see what was happening.
They were trying to do a coup.
And, you know, I have it from very good information.
I know a lot of people on the other side, too, that they went and they forced them out between Pelosi and Obama and some others that you see on television.
It was interesting.
I'd watch them on television and they act so nice.
Oh, yes, we love Joe.
We love Joe behind the scenes.
I know for a fact they were brutal.
unidentified
So, Mr. President, this has to be put on the table.
When this happens, and this is going to happen, how do you transfer power to Kamala Harris?
And quite frankly, how is the fix in on this thing in the first place?
Right?
donald j trump
There's people in there.
unidentified
They're smart enough.
They know exactly what's going on.
McCormick's been around.
donald j trump
They know what's going on.
The media knows what's going on.
That's why they're all, you know, stepping back.
It's all playing kick gloves.
It's patty cake in there right now.
This is a crisis, a constitutional crisis.
And now we have crises bearing down on us.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
donald j trump
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
donald j trump
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
unidentified
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
donald j trump
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
ben harnwell
Good morning.
Hanwell here at the helm, filling in for Steve Bannon, presently residing still in one of Dr. Jill Biden's Federal prisons, as they insist on plowing ahead, turning the greatest republic in the history of mankind into a banana republic.
You heard Donald Trump in the cold open there talking about how one of the factors that pushed Joe Biden out, that pushed the coup, was the fact that his polls were terrible.
We're going to be hearing from Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen Polling a little later on in the show.
He's going to break down exactly what's going on there.
I had an early look at some of these figures and they are terrifying.
And we're also going to be having on the show a little later, Monica Crowley, who will be talking about the leaking and the back briefing against Kamala Harris, coming from one of the Democrats' most authoritative figures, Barack Obama.
So stay tuned for that.
Coming up now, however, we've got Josh Hammer from Newsweek.
Good morning, Josh.
Is that Josh or Colonel?
Yes, it's Josh.
josh hammer
Yeah, I'm here.
How are you, Ben?
ben harnwell
Great.
Perfect.
Thanks.
Good morning to you.
Look, I was wondering whether you can just help me with one factor here.
I don't understand something.
Perhaps I'm just not bright enough.
The idea behind this DEI initiative, Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, is that DEI is supposed to be a positive thing.
However, it becomes a negative thing when you apply it to a specific person.
So it's good in the abstract, And the general and bad in the particular.
Can you explain to me before we talk about Biden's speech last night and everything that's going on, could you explain to me how that works?
josh hammer
Yeah, so this is actually a great question.
I mean, DEI, so-called diversity, equity and inclusion, is just the latest manifestation of the left's race-centric consciousness.
I mean, it's kind of just the successor to affirmative action in university admissions and in corporate hiring practices as well.
So this, you know, the Supreme Court here in the U.S.
dealt a fairly fatal blow to affirmative action in the university context and the students
for fair admissions versus Harvard and University of North Carolina cases last summer.
So now DEI is kind of the next thing, but it's interesting because if you go back
to the affirmative action context, again, these are basically the exact same issue.
We're talking here about fairly open, naked, explicit discrimination on the basis of race
against white people, discrimination on the basis of religion against Christians, against Jews,
against Asians, against anyone who does not fit this incredibly arbitrary hierarchy of victims
that constitutes the modern intersectional identity politics mindset.
But if you go back to the affirmative action context, Ben, I think the very astute point that you're making,
if you go back to the great Justice Clarence Thomas, in my opinion, the single greatest living American,
going back almost 30 years to the mid 1990s, he had an opinion in a case called Adirondack
that I remember reading in law school.
This is literally 29 years ago, if I have the date correctly, 20 and 29 years ago.
This is the first time that I think Justice Thomas first explained fully the badge of inferiority, the scarlet letter, essentially, that Affirmative Action, DEI, all these race-conscious practices put on the people that they purportedly help.
Put another way, if you are a Black or Hispanic person who gains admission to a university or is hired in a corporation, or in the case of Kataji Brown-Jackson gets on the U.S.
Supreme Court, or in the case of Kamala Harris, gets leapfrogged from a dud of a candidacy in 2020
to now being the nominee.
If you benefit in any way from these practices, you have a scarlet letter badge of inferiority.
I think that is the intellectual tension that they are getting at here,
because they can't recognize that.
If they actually go ahead and recognize that these race-conscious practices
actually do far more harm than good, empirically speaking, when it comes to mismatch theory,
as well as for the individuals that they purportedly help, when they start to recognize that then,
the entire construct falls apart.
So I think that's the underlying tension that they're getting at here,
because yeah, they can't necessarily admit that Kamala Harris is a DEI candidate,
because to do so would recognize that she just got this job due to race,
which again, gets back to the whole scarlet letter point.
ben harnwell
Actually, I think Biden himself, a couple of years ago, explicitly did refer to Kamala Harris as being a DEI.
hire in front of her.
Of course, the political climate was different two years ago.
And I think the issue here is that the Democrats are, as you point out, they're desperately trying to shift the narrative.
And they're now looking for anything that they can to attack Republicans, specifically Donald Trump and J.D.
Vance.
Now, here's what I want to ask you.
So last night, OK, Joe Biden.
He is saying he's going to pass the torch, right, of democracy.
Is that really what's going on?
And he said, you know, I gather in most cases like this, politicians who are forced from the public stage come up with the excuse that they want to spend more time with their family.
That's bad news for Ashley.
She's going to have to quit showering again.
Is this really, you know, however, looking at this, is this really what's going on though, Josh?
Because I think there's more going on.
Behind the scenes, this was a coup, a palace coup led by the Democrats.
Biden wasn't in control.
The mainstream media had been carrying water for him, lying to people for the last six months, arguably since the beginning of this specific administration.
The facts came out, slipped beyond the mainstream media's control.
And the Democrats realised that Biden was going to be made mincemeat out of come November.
So they've pushed him to the side.
Now, does Kamala Harris have what it takes to keep the Democrat ticket going until November?
There's a honeymoon blip.
We've seen some of this in the polls.
But does she have the substance behind her in order to carry the Democrats all the way through to November and then beyond?
josh hammer
Yeah, you know, Ben, I saw John Kennedy, the very humorous U.S.
Senator from Louisiana on a separate program earlier today where I heard him say, you know, Joe Biden said that it would take God Almighty himself to whisper in his ear to tell him to drop out in order to induce him to drop out.
But, you know, it turns out that perhaps God Almighty's voice sounds suspiciously like Barack Obama's voice in this particular case.
I mean, you know, this was obviously a bloodless coup, to your point, or at least we think it was bloodless.
I mean, you know, it took an awfully long time for Joe Biden to actually appear before a television camera.
But, you know, certainly Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, essentially all of the major parties there.
They got their guy.
And I'll be honest with you, I was surprised.
I did not think that it was going to happen like that.
I thought that Joe Biden would hold on because I actually continue to think,
and again, I'm a conservative, so I hope that Trump wins this election.
I don't pretend to offer the Democrats my candidate advice, but if I were them,
I think that I would have preferred to roll the dice with their very wounded nominee, Joe Biden,
rather than to change horses midstream like this.
When you actually do an electoral college analysis and you look at the states that are still going to decide
the 2024 presidential election, the path to 270 still goes through the rust belt.
It still goes through Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
In my estimation, that's probably a large part of the calculation that went into Trump's very inspired vice presidential selection choice of J.D.
Vance, which I was a huge fan of that pick.
But from their perspective, how in the world does a DEI far-left senator from California who wants to ban fracking support the Green New Deal?
How in the world does she make more sense than purportedly hardscrabble Joe from Scranton, Pennsylvania, in Michigan, Pennsylvania?
It's not going to make sense for them.
unidentified
I don't think it's going to work out well.
ben harnwell
Josh, will you hold on for two minutes?
We'll be back after this break and we'll carry on with this analysis.
unidentified
Welcome back folks to the War Room.
ben harnwell
So we were just talking to Josh Hammer from Newsweek about the general situation, the forces pressuring the bloodless, that we assume to be bloodless, Palace coup, kicking out the incumbent, or the husband of the incumbent president.
Joe Biden.
We've got Colonel Derek Harvey in the studio as well with us to talk about the speech from Netanyahu to Congress yesterday.
But while, Colonel Harvey, whilst you're here in studio and we have Josh Hammer here, could you just give me your first response to what Josh was saying, please?
derek harvey
Good morning, this is Derek.
Josh, good to see you.
You too.
I'm struck by your comments and one of the things I was wondering about is I heard Newt Gingrich on Monday talk about Kamala Harris.
And Heath was saying that she was probably a great candidate if you want to go down in flames as a Democrat party because she's to the left of Bernie Sanders on everything.
She's the most liberal senator that's been in the U.S.
Senate.
And he described her as a far-left San Francisco Democrat to the left of Bernie Sanders.
And why would we not want to run against her?
Um, what does your analysis say about the prospects in framing her like that?
josh hammer
Yeah, I mean, I think that that is the true Kamala Harris record.
I mean, she is a San Francisco left-winger to her core.
I mean, you know, Dave McCormick is running for U.S.
Senate right now against Bob Casey there in Pennsylvania, had this remarkable advertisement.
that went viral on social media a couple nights ago.
It's a 90 second ad just going through all of the far left positions that she took
over the course of her aborted run for president four years ago, where she did not win a single
primary voter, a single delegate, because she dropped out well before Iowa.
Again, Green New Deal, national ban on fracking, ban on offshore drilling.
She wants to make illegally crossing the border not a crime, but a civil offense.
She wants to pack the Supreme Court.
She wants universal socialized medicine.
I could go on and on here.
I mean, this is an unserious person.
And moreover, she is not merely an unserious far-left politician.
You know, the media is doing this whole gaslighting operation right now where they're trying to retcon her history.
They're saying that she wasn't actually the border czar, even though we all know that she was.
Axios, Politico, all of them report as much.
But they're trying to make it out like Kamala Harris is an undefined figure and that they have an opportunity now to define her.
That's total nonsense from my perspective.
Kamala Harris is a well-known, already defined figure, and the American people don't like what they see.
That's why her campaign in 2020, when she ran for president, dropped out again before the first votes were cast.
That's why last year she was ranked by NBC News as the single least popular vice president in the entire history of the United States.
She was 17 points underwater in a favorable-unfavorable split.
Right now, according to FiveThirtyEight, her average approval rating is about 37.5% or so.
We know what Kamala Harris' record is.
It is very, very, very far left.
She is not going to appeal to those voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin.
And as I said earlier, I am just confused on Democrats' behalf, frankly, as to why they would change horses midstream like this.
Not that Joe Biden was in particularly good shape, mind you, but I think that Kamala Harris is probably even worse, frankly, in a one-on-one against Trump.
derek harvey
Josh, you were saying- Do you think it might have been because- Oh, go ahead.
ben harnwell
No, go ahead, Colonel Harvey.
derek harvey
No, I was going to suggest that they were so concerned about the downed party tickets, you know, from local and state and at the Senate and Congressional level, that they thought they would have fewer losses with Kamala.
Do you think that might have been the calculation?
josh hammer
Yeah, I guess so.
I mean, part of it is probably kind of a try to staunch the bleeding operation.
If you look at the various demographics who have been peeling away from Democrats and inching towards Trump, they've been hemorrhaging support among young voters, millennials and Gen Z. They've been hemorrhaging support among young black men in particular.
show up for the twenty five maybe even 30% of young black
men. We're considering voting for trump so I think they're
trying to kind of shore up.
Their kind of intersectional post two thousand eight post
Obama coalition essentially this coalition of aggrieved interest
this coalition of the oppressed.
To use kind of the critical race theory you know neo
Marxist nomenclature but- the problem is the flip side of
that is that even if they can peel off on the margins. Some
of those voters and it's not obvious to me that they will
because Kamala Harris is an extraordinarily cringe faced
figure who purports to speak to a lot of these. Other people
but she really doesn't because she doesn't live their life she
She has no natural connection to them.
But even holding aside that, even if they actually can shore up that support a little bit, to get back again to the Rust Belt and these crucial swing states, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, those three states that really are going to determine this election, what does she possibly have to offer them?
Is Stella Shale in Pennsylvania going to like the fact that she supports a national fracking
ban and a ban on offshore drilling?
You know, how does her whole kind of sycophancy towards EV mandates and electric vehicles,
how is that going to play in the auto mills outside Detroit, Michigan?
I mean, it just doesn't make sense on its own terms, I don't think.
ben harnwell
If I may, Oxfam, I don't know if you guys know the British NGO Oxfam, it does a lot
of work on the left-ish type social issues without being overtly political.
So Oxfam have produced this report, which they do I think every year, and they said the world's richest 1% gained 40 trillion in the last decade.
I think that's the backdrop to the forthcoming presidential election in the United States.
I think it's pretty much the backdrop to everything that's going on around the world right now.
And you see the rise of the political movements going to the alternative right, the non-establishment right, the populist nationalist right, because the conventional centre-right parties have failed to do anything For the people.
And this isn't a consequence of free market economics.
This is an overt consequence of the clients of the state, the military.
For example, Colonel Harvey, I'm sure you'll have a lot of experience on seeing this from the other side of the screen.
But the military, you have all the lobbies, you have the Chamber of Commerce.
All the lobbyists, these are the people that are drawing the wealth out of the nation, paid for by taxpayers.
So taxpayers, I saw a poll I think a couple of days ago saying one third of Americans now effectively have no pension and fear for the future.
Well that's, you know, that's entirely to be expected when a country is bankrupting itself, spending On money, on all the politically powerful lobby groups and leaving nothing for the people themselves.
This is a point I think we're going to be pushing down on a little later in the show.
My own reading of this, Josh, though, from what you were saying before, I think after, you know, President Trump said in the cold open that he basically thought that Biden's fate was sealed from the debate.
And that's my that's my reading.
I think after the assassination attempt, the Democrats realized or believed that they're not going to win in November.
me whether this mirrors yours.
I think after the assassination attempt, the Democrats realised or believe that they're
not going to win in November.
And by that I mean they won't win a fair election.
It will take another show to discuss whether November 5th is actually going to be a fair
election or whether it's going to be another stolen election.
And I don't buy for a single moment this too-big-to-rig line that's being pushed out in certain quarters.
Because fundamentally the issues to do with 2020 have not been resolved and the people responsible for those are still very much in power.
But to put that to one side, in a fair election and a straight down honest election, Trump after the assassination of Ted Norton, the polls are starting to show this, would have no problem whatsoever on November 5th.
Therefore the strategy of the Democrats is to protect their down ballot fights and the Senate, the House, Josh I think you're alluding to this, And of course, you know what, when Mark Mitchell comes on the show a little later, what I want to ask is, because you're seeing some of these national polls, which are showing quite strong support for President Trump.
Really, I think what I want to see on and drill down on are these six swing states, right?
That's I think where this battle is really going to take place.
Now, I'd like to see what the polls are starting to show there in those areas.
Josh?
josh hammer
Yeah, so look, I mean, Kamala's gotten a negligible, thus far, boost in some of the national horse race polling.
I mean, we need to wait for some more actual swing state polling, right?
Especially those Rust Belt states.
You know, I think their calculus Is that because of what I was saying earlier, because of this theory that Kamala can help recapture voters who were hemorrhaging, the younger voters, Black, Hispanic voters, they think that she can help narrow the margins in the Sunbelt states of Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, all of which were slipping away from President Biden.
But, you know, Ben, to your point earlier, obviously the whole Democrat media complex put this thing into full motion literally within minutes of that June 27th presidential debate ending there.
And to me, it's somewhat of a crisis of their own making insofar as we didn't actually learn any new information on June 27th.
Anyone who had eyes to see and ears to hear knew darn well exactly what was going on with the President of the United States in regards to his clear, palpable mental and physical decline.
So they just chose to ignore that and then fabricate this crisis.
The whole thing is just really, really, really bizarre.
I don't think it's going to play out for them.
But again, I don't think it would have worked out for them particularly well if they had stuck with Joe Biden ever.
They were really between a rock and a hard place right now.
The key for Donald Trump is to make sure that he didn't peak too soon.
He had the natural sympathy after that incredible historic photo, the bloodied face in Butler, Pennsylvania, this remarkable unifying Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.
The key is to make sure that he did not peak too soon and to keep this momentum going.
This rally in Charlotte, North Carolina last night struck me as a good first step towards doing that.
ben harnwell
Josh Hammer, thanks very much for coming on the show this morning and breaking down this analysis.
Colonel Harvey, if you'd very kindly stay on and then sort of give us a breakdown of what happened yesterday.
Josh, where can people come to get up with your fantastic, excellent writing, your social media?
Where do they go?
josh hammer
Yeah, thanks so much again for having me.
So I'm on Twitter, Josh underscore Hammer.
Instagram is Josh B. Hammer.
I host two shows, the Josh Hammer Show in America on trial with Josh Hammer.
I write a weekly syndicated column.
And then you can also check out our work at the Article 3 Project where I'm senior counsel at article3project.org.
ben harnwell
Great.
Thanks very much, Josh.
We'll catch up with you soon.
josh hammer
Thank you so much.
ben harnwell
OK, folks, stand by.
We've got a two minute break coming up.
We'll be back with Colonel Harvey and also Mark Mitchell to help break down the figures behind much of what's driving the political battle here on the war room.
joe scarborough
Stay tuned.
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It keeps us fresh.
It keeps us viable.
It brings in a new generation of talent, a new generation of workers.
It's what makes us different.
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What makes us different from China?
What makes us different even from our allies in Europe?
We have become the melting pot of the world for well over 100, 150, 200 years.
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unidentified
way.
ben harnwell
Memo to Morning Meeker.
OK, those pro-immigration platitudes were perhaps, perhaps, perhaps OK.
Before the 1980s.
And I'm perfectly happy to say that up until the 1980s, Ronald Reagan was one of America's greatest presidents.
He saw down Soviet communism almost single-handedly in the face of the Republican Party establishment.
Those platitudes will not work any longer.
Right?
They're not working.
If you believe that, Joe, then stand, go back to, stand for Congress, go back to Congress and try and get elected on that platform.
The American public have moved on.
It's one thing, and this is, to his eternal credit, Donald Trump has moved the needle on the immigration debate.
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Colonel Harvey, how appropriate is it in 2024 for Joe Scarborough to sit there and try and reorientate the American political discourse towards a pro-immigration life?
And how successful, how popular would it be?
And then bouncing off your response, we're going to go straight to Mark Mitchell at Rasmussen to find out how the land lies in terms of the numbers.
derek harvey
Well, my take on it is total spin and adulteration of the Reagan philosophy.
You know, the Republican Party and Donald Trump and their platform is for legal immigration that brings in The best and the brightest that we desire in our country to become integrated in our society.
They come in legally and we bring in almost 1.4 million people legally every year.
What we have though is a problem.
I'm a county commissioner.
I see this problem in my county, in the streets, in the schools, in our social services with a breakdown of Affordable housing, the stress on our schools with 47 different languages and nearly 10% of our students being illegal immigrant children.
We see it in the cost across the board of social services and social security being directed at these illegal immigrants.
When we have veterans and elderly people that are getting half of what these illegal immigrants are getting when they come across the border.
Tremendous stress and social upheaval in America.
We also have almost 40 million Immigrants living in our country that are not citizens.
40 million.
11 million came in in the last three and a half years.
So a tremendous amount of stress.
We are for legal immigration that's monitored, controlled, and is adjusted to suit the needs of our society, economically and culturally.
But we can't support unconstrained open borders where anybody can come in from terrorists to criminals to rapists and even the Hispanic and black communities here in America by 55% are for deportation.
ben harnwell
Thank you.
I tell you why immigration is important, Colonel Harvard, because Kamala Harris was supposed to be the immigration czar.
She was supposed to take control over the southern border.
That's been memory hold now.
And I don't think the Democrats are going to be talking at all, anything about that in the next four months.
Seeing as she's now, she's now wielded the crown, as it were, in terms of she's the presumptive nominee for the Democrats.
They produced, they pulled this coup, this bloodless coup.
Out of the hat, Mark Mitchell, how is that?
How are the figures looking now?
I saw that Rasmussen, which is, I think, my favorite polling company in terms of getting at the actual underlying situation in the States.
You published a poll, I think this morning, saying that 43 percent of Americans strongly disapprove of Joe Biden.
How is he?
How is his heir and successor?
Assuming that we're going to have an honest election in November, though there's every doubt that it will be, knowing the Democrats' propensity to cheat.
We'll talk about that a little later.
How can Kamala Harris possibly present herself for election on November the 5th, when you have the absolute disintegration of the southern border, which is supposed to be her primary responsibility?
mark mitchell
Well, I don't think they're gonna be able to memory hold this at all.
If you go to Google Trends, 20 times more people are searching for the term border czar right now than they ever have, right?
There's PSYOPs that work and there's PSYOPs that don't.
And I don't think this Kamala Harris PSYOP is gonna work.
They're pretty effective with immigration only, or I'm sorry, abortion.
Only 12% of voters want abortion after Six months, but somehow the country is painted as a pro-choice country, and it's just not.
Immigration is going to be a really tough one to bury, too, because this country does not like illegal immigration.
And we should know, because we're basically the experts on immigration.
We're sponsored by Numbers USA to go into the field every month.
And we ask a set of questions about immigration over and over again, and we produce an index.
But I'll tell you, By like a 60% to 15 or less margin.
So 4 to 1 to 5 to 1.
Americans say the government is doing too little versus too much to prevent illegal immigration at the border.
And what's fascinating is that index which tracks how soft people are in immigration Was actually showing that people wanted softer stance on immigration during the Trump administration.
But the second that Biden got elected, the index plunged from like 125 down to the 80s where it is staying today.
So there was something subconscious about Joe Biden's presidency that people knew even before he started implementing his policies.
That this administration is way too soft on the border.
Now, I'll get into the race numbers in a second, but I just wanna take a high-level look at what's going on here.
Four years ago, Trump was down, call it 8 to 10 points, depending on what poll you're looking at.
Today, in our polling, he's up like almost that amount.
So he's turned it around 15 points in a four-year period.
And it's interesting to ask why, but if you look at why he's winning so much right now, It's because more Democrats would cross over to vote Trump than Republicans would cross over to vote Biden or Harris and Trump is winning among independents.
Now, how are the Democrats gonna win it?
There's, in my opinion, Let's just assume that all of the Democrats vote Biden or Harris the same amount that Republicans vote Trump.
Then they have to win the independents.
Independents hate what's going on in the border.
And believe it or not, border is their number two issue behind the economy.
So how is she the woman?
What's their strategy?
Like we can't even get into her competency.
People don't think she's a good vice president at all.
Why is putting her at the top of the ticket their best strategy?
Exactly so.
The Democrats aren't going to win this next election.
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Exactly so.
ben harnwell
The Democrats aren't going to win this next election.
If they get their candidate inaugurated on January 20th, it will be thanks to cheating
rather than a straight up election.
Mark, can you just, we've got about two minutes coming up to the next break.
Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia.
These are the conventional six states Around which the Electoral College is going to revolve, right?
I've seen some of the national polls, putting Trump a few points ahead of Merces Harris, the polls that have just sort of been done, I think, in the last few days.
In some senses, these national polls aren't really going to tell us very much about what's going to happen on November the 5th in terms of the Electoral College.
What's happening there in these six swing states?
mark mitchell
Yeah, I have to be very careful about saying when these polls came out.
So Trump was up 5 to 10 points all year.
He actually got down to only plus 3 after the debate because Democrats rallied around Biden.
The following week, we had Trump up to plus 8.
So we did a mega swing state poll, which is the one that showed that plus 3 margin.
So with Trump only up 3, probably the lowest result we've had.
We had Arizona Trump plus 9, Pennsylvania Trump plus 4, Georgia Trump plus 5, Wisconsin Trump plus 3, Nevada Trump plus 8.
And Michigan, Trump plus one, those are all the multi-way matchup numbers.
So you can argue about if you like your two-way or your multi-way, but we show him winning to roughly tied to up majorly in every single swing state.
And that was in a poll that was less favorable to him before the assassination attempt, before the majorly positive RNC.
I just don't like it's going to come down to the 3 a.m.
pipe bursts or mail-in ballots, and we can get into that after the break.
But we've got some crazy polling that implies that there's a level of cheating in this country bigger than anybody expected.
derek harvey
Mark, could I ask a question, please?
I would like to ask a question about what you're seeing in New Mexico, what you're seeing in Minnesota, or maybe Colorado, if the map has expanded for the Trump campaign.
mark mitchell
I haven't had a chance to pull those states yet.
I think we have an opportunity, potentially, to go into New York soon.
We're going to do another set of swing state polls.
I might incorporate more.
But I think the takeaway is that if you look at your New York Times Sienas, if you look at your Bloombergs or Harvard Harris, people call us a right-wing pollster.
We're actually, like, about a point off.
in the national popular vote in 2020 if you averaged all of our September and October
polling together.
Those pollsters are pretty close to us at a national level, and I think you'll find
that on an individual swing-sink basis that we're holding up too.
So I think if you look at a reputable pollster that's in the same ballpark as us, you can
trust the other polling that they're doing.
ben harnwell
We'll be back in two minutes with Mark Mitchell and Colonel Hart.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
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ben harnwell
Welcome back to the War Room.
Mark Mitchell, how long can we expect from Rasmussen Reports to come out with a poll looking specifically at these swing states on a Trump-Vance versus Kamala and whoever her veep will be matchup?
mark mitchell
Yeah, I think we need to give it time for everything to solidify.
I would say, you know, give it two or three weeks.
You know, this swing state poll we just did, believe it or not, is only like 10 or 11 days old, but a lot, but a lot's happened since then.
I think the biggest finding in this poll is the cheating result.
As you know, we've been following cheating very, very intently.
We think it's incredibly important to be an accurate pollster.
Everybody else seems to duck this issue.
We've been asking about it for three years now.
We went from an under 50% of the population saying they were concerned about cheating in 2020 to now our biggest number, 66% of people are now at least somewhat concerned that cheating will affect the outcome of the 2024 election.
Of course, we've also tested things like audits and IDs and paper ballots.
Everybody overwhelmingly supports that stuff.
But what we've done, we did one back in December.
This is incredible.
We asked people multiple questions about what they did with mail-in ballots.
Did you fill it in on behalf of somebody else?
Did you do one?
ben harnwell
Mark, excuse me.
You're about 66% right of respondents concerned about cheating in the 2024 election.
Can you break that down by party affiliation?
mark mitchell
Yeah, I don't have a 66 one in front of me, I have a 62 one.
And how concerned are you?
62-1 and how concerned are you? Okay, it was 78% of Republicans, a majority 60% of Independents
and even now 50% of Democrats.
So Democrats were always the holdout.
The number for them was always, you know, mid 30s to mid 40s.
And now that Trump's winning, I think their numbers starting to creep up.
But yeah, I mean, it's a bipartisan concern.
And that's because people have seen a lot of hijinks, in my opinion, a lot of things that have been swept under the rug with the big lie narrative.
But when you get Check this number out from the swing state poll.
When you get 18% of every voter in the country saying that in the 2020 elections, did you personally receive more than one official ballot in the mail or receive a ballot for someone who does not live at your address?
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18%.
mark mitchell
18% of the electorate says yes.
30% of 18 to 39 year olds in this country, 29% of Hispanic voters.
And in the battleground states that 18% number is actually 20%.
So not only that, in this one where we asked people about mail-in ballots, at least 28%,
28% of people who voted with mail-in ballots said they committed themselves out of their own mouth.
At least one form of ballot fraud.
And then the biggest, most unique takeaway I've never seen come out of any pollster ever.
Most pollsters poll registered voters.
They just like download a list of people out of the voter file.
We poll likely voters.
And for the first time, we included a question.
Are you a US citizen?
Why would a pollster ever have to ask that?
Well, let me tell you, the results were pretty astounding.
In a 2,500 likely voter poll of the nation, 222 people said either no or not sure to that question of you are a US citizen.
This is a likely voter poll.
These people say they vote in federal elections.
90% of these people, actually 95% of these people, said they voted in 2020.
it in 2020. That number is 9%. Now, okay. Okay. So I'm going to have to do a Steve Bannonist.
ben harnwell
Stop, stop.
This is what I want the Wolverine posse to do, right?
With that pencil he has.
He says it so many times, that double whatever it is.
Get your pencils out and make a note of this.
When you're down at the bowling club, when you're down at the supermarket, when you're down at the bar having a coffee or a pint, get this piece of paper out and share it with people.
Let people know.
Mark, what were those figures again?
Tell me again about the likelihood of voters from non-US citizens and again, fear of election fraud in 2024.
What are those headline figures once again?
mark mitchell
Gotta be super careful about what I'm implying.
In a 2,466 US likely voter poll of, you know, voters across the country, people who said they vote in elections, 9% of them said either no or not sure to the question of whether you're a US citizen.
Now, I have not been asking this question.
We don't have a lot of history on this.
I can confirm that it wasn't people fat fingering their phone numbers.
I can confirm that it wasn't people who couldn't read because they answered other questions appropriately.
This is a stunning finding.
That people need to not ignore.
Other pollsters need to try and replicate this.
We're gonna try and get more data.
Maybe we just got one crazy poll, but guess what?
In a 2,500 likely voter poll, margin of error is slightly less than 2%, right?
So this subsample's margin of error is 6% or 7%.
It's not 9%.
222 of these people said they were not citizens.
Now, what's interesting is they vote both Trump and Biden in 2020.
And this is the same signal that we've seen in the mail-in ballot fraud questions, which is, it isn't a systematic A signal of one party cheating we're seeing is just a big free-for-all.
But that's exactly what you'd want if you were going to manipulate the levers of our electoral systems.
Anything can go in our elections right now.
30% of people that did mail-in ballots in 2020 say they committed fraud.
20% of voters, millions and millions of ballots out there that are just superfluous, floating around for anybody to manipulate.
ben harnwell
This should be on the front page of every national newspaper in the United States.
Mark, before you go and give your socials, it's not going to be.
Before you go and quickly give your socials, what was that headline figure again about fear of election fraud in November 2024?
That figure once again.
And get out, folks, it's your number two pencil.
That's what you need to get out and make a note of this.
mark mitchell
This is the most recent result, not the biggest one, but 62% of US likely voters are at least somewhat concerned that cheating will affect the outcome of the 2024 election.
37% very concerned, only 15% not at all concerned.
And that, to me, is a damning, damning revelation about people's confidence in our electoral systems.
ben harnwell
Mark, that's absolutely astonishing.
I'm going to look at that report, I'm going to break it down in my private time, which leads me onto it.
Where can people go if they want to read this and forward it, go on the social media and forward it to their own contacts and friends?
People need to see these things.
mark mitchell
Yeah, this was a sponsored poll, so the cross tabs are free for everybody.
Go to RasmussenReports.com, search for the term Heartland.
It was just out like this week and last week, the stories are coming out.
Go to our YouTube, we break all this stuff down, and Twitter at Rasmussen underscore poll.
ben harnwell
Mark Mitchell, Rasmussen Reports.
Thanks very much for coming on the show.
Those figures are absolutely terrifying and it underlines what we've been saying here on The War Room.
They stole 2020, nothing has been done and there's every possibility they're going to steal and cheat on the 5th of November 2024.
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