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Episode 3778: Far Left Polling Start Licking The Boot Of The Deep State
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andy biggs
Five and a half years ago, President Trump signed into law the First Step Act of 2018.
The First Step Act sought to reduce the size of the federal prison population and reduce recidivism while still maintaining public safety.
The Act's three main goals were, one, correctional reform, two, sentencing reform regarding penalties for federal offenses, and three, reauthorization of the Second Chance Act of 2007.
BOP is charged with much of the implementation of the First Step Act.
As I mentioned earlier, we are experiencing a nationwide spike in crime, and it is vital that BOP gets this implementation right.
The First Step Act required DOJ to develop a system for BOP to be used to assess the risk of recidivism of federal prisoners and to assign prisoners to evidence-based recidivism reduction programs.
These programs include literacy programs, occupational education programs, trade skill programs, and substance use disorder programs.
Inmates who complete the recidivism reduction programming can earn additional time credits, which allows them to be placed in home confinement or an RRC earlier than they would have been.
This is why I said BOP needs to make sure they get this right.
We cannot allow criminals to be leaving our prisons early unless we can ensure that they will not re-offend.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies.
steve bannon
Because we're going medieval on these people.
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
peter navarro
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
andy biggs
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
peter navarro
Peter K. Navarro in for the Admiral Stephen K. Bannon.
I guess I am the next man up here.
In this hour, we're going to be talking with Andy Biggs right off the bat as soon as he calls in about something close to my heart, prison reform, given the fact that I just got out of the joint.
As it were.
Imagine the Democrats putting me in, unbeknownst to them as what it will turn out to be, a whistleblower and an investigative reporter who uncovered a $5 billion scandal on the part of the Bureau of Prisons.
The Bureau of Prisons is breaking the law because they are not implementing the First Step Act.
And this is something that Donald Trump passed in 2018 to lower taxpayer costs, lower the rate of crime, and to help inmates and their families who are being put into prison with crushing sentences based on an artifact of legislation from the 90s.
So let me know when Andy's ready.
I see him on the screen because I want to bring him right in.
We've got Congressman Biggs.
The top line here, I held a press conference earlier today, you'll be able to see it on Memorex, as it were, when we get the link up.
But here's the deal.
First Step Act provides for sentence reductions based on earned time credits.
If inmates go in there and behave properly, they program, they learn how to do stuff when they get out.
And all's good.
The problem that we have right now is that the Bureau of Prisons is not implementing the First Step Act.
It's vastly undercounting the credits that inmates should get for sentence reduction.
And as a result, the average delay is anywhere from 6 to 12 months in terms of release.
And Andy Biggs, Congressman Biggs, had the director, Collette Peters, on the griddle today to answer whether the BOP was implementing the First Step Act.
I couldn't hear it because I was doing other things at the time.
My brother Biggs, I gotta say, Andy, was one of the few in the Republican delegation, sadly to say, that has had the backs of me and Steve Bannon and others and President Trump with respect to the J6 committee.
Andy, welcome.
Congressman Biggs.
And sir, how'd it go with Colette Peters today?
Why don't you let the audience know what happened.
andy biggs
Yeah, thanks, Peter.
Good to see you.
I'm glad to see you out and free and glad to be able to communicate freely with you.
And by the way, we did bring it up that Gates and actually he was trying to get in.
I was trying to write his coattails in to see you, but they wouldn't let us in.
Anyway, so when we start talking about the First Step Act, I think, by the way, just so you know, Peter really is an insider whistleblower now because he can tell us what he observed and saw in the federal prison.
Here's the deal.
Director Peters acknowledged that they're behind.
She couldn't tell me exactly how many, but the number looks to be like 60,000.
That's what you reported, and that's the number I used.
She didn't dispute that.
She knows it's a big number.
She knows that they're way behind.
So, in essence, she acknowledged that they weren't actually obeying or complying, as you're probably best aware, with the First Step Act.
She claims that they're trying to, but I pointed out in that hearing that the number could be as high as $5 billion in savings for a Bureau of Prisons that wants to save all this money, right, or find all this money for new, you know, infrastructure, etc.
If they would actually process these individuals and go forward, they would find $5 billion in savings.
And Peter, if that doesn't entice a bureaucrat that they can find a way to get $5 billion, then nothing will, in my opinion.
peter navarro
Did she make any commitments?
We had talked offline.
I talked with Matt Gates about this.
I mean, the two solutions here, Andy, are really simple.
All they have to do is put this calculator in, the new calculator in, which will calculate the credits properly.
And most importantly, I hope the question was raised, if she simply ordered the BOP to put people in electronically monitored home confinement if there's not RRC or halfway house capacity.
Did that come up?
Did she commit to anything like that?
andy biggs
Well, so let's talk about the calculator first.
peter navarro
Sure.
andy biggs
I questioned her about that.
And what she told me is that it just came online.
They actually have a calculator now that's accurate and can be reflective of each, each inmates time and, and also their earned credits.
And that's, frankly, that's about where my five minutes ran out.
But that's where we got to.
She tells me that it's in place.
And I told her that I had a series of additional questions that she'll be getting from me.
And I also have to tell you that I had to also go through a series of questions that we'd already asked that she had not sent us Fulsome responses to documents, etc.
So I had to do that to start it off, but that's why I kind of ran out of time before I got to, here's maybe some other avenues that you have.
But she agreed to do two things which I think are important.
Number one, she's going to answer all of our questions in a more fulsome manner, and that allows me to ask the additional questions you wanted to ask.
The second thing is, I told her that as the chairman of the subcommittee, I intend to go to the Danbury minimum security facility in Danbury, Connecticut, where Steve Bannon is held.
I told her I want to take a tour of that facility, and then I want to meet with Mr. Bannon, and I'm going to bring some of these committee members with me.
unidentified
She agreed to facilitate that.
peter navarro
Well, do me a favor on this, Andy.
Two things.
One is, in the question that you send her, have her say, the question is, will you commit to a policy, immediate policy, that if you don't have RRC, that's Residential Reentry Center, we call them halfway houses, if you don't have RRC capacity, will you commit to immediately sending these folks to home confinement?
The halfway house is, Andy, it costs $60,000 a year for the taxpayers in prison.
It's about $30,000 to a halfway house.
But once you get to home confinement, it drops to about $10,000.
And there's no reason why these guys, I mean, the default here is the most expensive option because they don't have their act together.
If you can get her to commit to that, And you can get her to just implement the calculator.
Five billion dollars, man.
We've got that.
We've got that.
And then the second thing, maybe you could share this with Matt.
I'll share it with his general counsel, Clouster.
I'd be happy to go with Matt to the Miami facility.
And take him on a tour, meet the warden, meet the facility administrator and show him.
I mean, there's other stuff.
I mean, there's issues related to just there's no medical care.
The prescription drug thing is a joke.
The kitchen's like cockroach infested.
And you I mean, I lost 15 pounds there.
And it's just I mean, it's not like an environment.
There's not enough of the programming you mentioned.
So be happy to do that, and that'll be interesting if they let you into Danbury.
I mean, yeah, what Matt wanted to do was do a little podcast from there.
That's why they wouldn't let him in there.
You're too notorious.
Take the camera with you, brother.
unidentified
Yeah, Peter, you're too notorious, my friend.
peter navarro
I got a tattoo in prison that said I'm notorious PKN now.
Well, it sounds like you made good progress, brother.
Where do we go from here?
Look, I don't know.
I mean, certainly if it was Matt's choice and your choice, you would have had me in there testifying today.
It's like, it's kind of ironic.
I went to prison for refusing to testify before Congress, and now when I'm willing to do it fresh out of prison, I can't get a microphone.
What's the deal here?
I've got this issue.
I can save these.
Tell these guys it's bipartisan.
It's five billion bucks.
andy biggs
Yeah, I think, Peter, you know, I think I can work on facilitating you coming to testify before Congress, and I would like to get some others, too.
I think put you on a panel with a couple other guys who can relate their experiences to us.
I think that would be really beneficial, and that's something I'm going to look forward to doing.
I'm going to work on that, Peter.
peter navarro
Let me tell you a quick story.
This guy, James Medard, he... Last day I was there, I saw him, I heard his mom died.
I said to him, hey James, I'm really sorry about your mom.
And he looks at me and he goes, he says to me, she just couldn't wait any longer.
And what he meant by that was she couldn't wait for him to get out.
And here's the thing, Andy, that guy should have been out in April.
If he'd been put out in April by the Bureau of Prisons, we would have saved a bunch of taxpayer money, and he could have been with his dying mom, and she died without him.
So, there's a human side to this.
I saw so many of these people.
I mean, it's a tragedy.
You know, good people doing bad things, but that's what prisons are supposed to do.
They're supposed to punish, but also get them ready for the next step.
Any other final words you want to say on what happened today?
What's your read on Peters?
I mean, we got Cheadle out of there, and on a scale of 1 to 100, that's 100 in terms of her failure.
I put Peters at about a 50.
Do you think she's competent for the job?
What was your read on that?
andy biggs
You know, I've met with her a couple times trying to get a read on it myself.
I think she wants to do the job right.
I'm convinced that there's a massive bureaucracy here, Peter.
So let me just tell you one of my solutions to it.
Just so people know, we're not talking about murderers, rapists, violent people that are going to get these early release credits.
There's a lower level of criminal that's, you know, persons that have been charged with a crime and convicted.
But here's the deal.
I believe there's far too many federal crimes, Peter.
I think by and large the founders had it right that the criminal law is supposed to be left to the states.
It's just a few crimes that would actually qualify for a federal crime.
But we have literally 40,000 plus crimes at the federal level.
So that means people can end up going to prison for, you know, some of the craziest things ever.
peter navarro
Let me say something quickly because you've got to run, but I want you to hear this.
There were two guys in there, both of whom were compliant with state law.
Who were sent to prison because of a violation of federal law.
One in the state of Washington, one in the state of Florida.
Think about it, Andy.
They did everything right!
The feds come along, so finish that.
Okay, I hear the music.
We're getting out of here.
You're a hero and a patriot, sir.
Thank you for popping on today.
unidentified
You're too.
peter navarro
Give my regards to the folks there, and let's get this done.
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Okay, out Navarro.
I haven't been practicing teleprompter for a while, so that wasn't too bad.
What we're going to do now is we're going to bring in a cold Open clip on a poll and I'm going to have a guy's head explode in response to it.
Mark Mitchell from Reuters.
So it's a Reuters poll and a Reuters guy is going to respond.
Let's play that clip if we can with the precision of Cameron.
katy tur
He said at the top of the show we got some new polling today.
Interesting polling showing us the state of the race now that Joe Biden, the president, has decided not to run for re-election.
I'll put up the Reuters poll first.
This is a Reuters Ipsos poll taken in the two days after President Biden dropped out of the race.
You can see Kamala Harris ahead of Donald Trump by two points.
If you add RFK in, she's ahead of Donald Trump By four points, 42% to 38.
The head-to-head matchup is within the margin of error.
So the number you're seeing there is within the margin of error.
But when you add in RFK, that four-point margin is outside of the margin of error.
It also should be shown alongside of a morning consult poll we also got today that shows Donald Trump in the lead, 47 to 45, again, within the margin of error.
Error.
Joining us now, Cook Political Report's senior editor and elections analyst, David Wasserman, a man who knows the numbers, deals in probabilities like these.
So, again, these are just very quick polls.
The race is going to change going forward, but does this say anything to you about where we might be headed?
unidentified
Look, Katie, it's going to take at least a week before we get a robust sample of national polls that tells us what's changed.
That said, I do expect a bit of a honeymoon period for Kamala Harris.
And after a while, it's going to come back down to earth.
I think it's similar to the honeymoon she enjoyed when she was picked by Biden four years ago.
The question is whether she can get out ahead of Republicans' attack on her.
Yeah, yeah.
Enough of this spin stuff.
peter navarro
First, look, Shakespeare had it wrong.
It was first we kill all the pollsters except Mark Mitchell and Richard Behrs.
So that was a Reuters poll.
We got Mark Mitchell coming on from Rasmussen.
Mark, tell me why that poll.
Was what I think it was, which is pure propaganda for the left.
mark mitchell
Well, you know, I personally can't look at that and directly call them liars.
You know, everybody has a bad poll every now and again and gets a little mud on their face.
peter navarro
Oh, you call that a bad poll?
You call that a bad poll?
mark mitchell
I think so.
I mean, there's a bunch of reasons why I think that that data doesn't make any sense to me.
But if you're one of the people that doesn't like following individual pollsters and you
like the aggregates, go look at the Trump-Harris aggregate on Real Clear Polling.
And there's only one blue circle right now, and it's them.
So they're sticking their necks out to put Harris up.
But the three biggest things that come to my mind is that if you look at the sample
on Real Clear Politics, it's a thousand registered voters.
And most of the industry is pulling registered voters right now.
Rasmussen always pulls likely voters because we think it's a better reflection of what happens in November.
And guess what?
The entire industry is going to shift to likely voters too, right?
peter navarro
So I think Let's drill down a little bit on that so the viewers understand it.
Registered voters is everybody who's registered to vote.
Likely voters can be defined in a number of ways.
It can be voted in the last two out of four elections, three out of four every election.
How do you define That, and with a presidential election, we know that you have to be a little looser with that definition because you get a higher turnout.
Can you give us a little tech, War Room likes technical stuff.
mark mitchell
Yeah, I think likely voters are a better model, and you see it do sometimes swing around because it follows people's enthusiasm, but most people polling registered voters will just go buy a file of registered voters and reach out and contact those people and ask them questions.
What we do is we randomly reach out to people and then say, well, how likely is it that
you're going to vote in the upcoming election?
And anybody who says, you know, they're likely to vote, we keep, but anybody else we throw
out.
So those people cost us money because we contact them, spend money and then throw them out.
But we think that that is a better picture of the electorate.
And what happens is, I think it makes our numbers a little bit more sensitive to major swings in news events, because all of a sudden people say, oh, I'm not voting anymore.
And so they won't get picked up in our likely voter screen, and it'll drastically change.
And that brings me to the number two reason why I think that that pulls off.
Is because if you look at that article, they show that they had Trump winning slightly over Biden just a week ago.
And now they have Trump down on Kamala.
And I can tell you and I'll talk about some of our numbers here.
What I saw was a massive, massive post RNC bounce for Donald Trump.
I can't think of any reason, other than maybe it's a registered voter poll, why I didn't see the same thing in their numbers, because that was a huge event that really set the tone of the Republican electorate.
So, if you haven't been, I mean, you might not have been keeping track.
peter navarro
Over what time frame did they do the poll?
Do we know when they went out with the poll?
mark mitchell
Theirs was 20, just yesterday.
Yesterday and today.
unidentified
One day, two day poll.
mark mitchell
Yeah.
You know, like, good a time as any to take it, but where does that bounce?
So we had post-debate major mega swing state and national poll, 2,500 likely voters
nationally, and we had Trump plus three post-debate, which is the lowest lead we've had for him
since November.
But it's all due to rallying Democrats because of Joe Biden's horrible debate performance that
actually made them circle the wagon.
But then, because of that RNC, because of the assassination attempt, new numbers out today, we now have Donald Trump back up to eight points, which is among one of his higher readings.
We got him taking 50% of the vote now.
Which is the highest he's had for a long time.
Biden only taking 42.
And Trump winning by 21 points among independents now, which is a horrifying and crushing lead.
And again, like we all know Biden dropped out.
But that brings me to my third point about their poll.
I've polled about Kamala Harris a lot of times.
I've polled a lot about Biden.
And never once in any one of our polls has Kamala Harris ever outperformed Joe Biden.
It just doesn't happen.
If I do a Kamala Harris-Trump matchup, she does a point or two worse than Biden.
If I test their favorability, she's 41 instead of 43.
America does not like her more Than Joe Biden.
unidentified
And I think, you know, they were kind of forced... Help me drill down a little bit on it.
peter navarro
I want to ask you some short, specific questions, if you'll humor me.
What's Kamala's favorable-unfavorable rating?
mark mitchell
I think the last time we ran it, it was like 41%.
I forget how many.
You know, it's very similar to Biden, but Biden does a little bit better.
peter navarro
Is her unfavorable higher than her favorable?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
mark mitchell
Oh, without a doubt.
We have very few people who are not sure about what they think about Kamala Harris.
So that puts her significantly underwater with, you know, mid fifties unfavorable rating and underwater in the teens.
peter navarro
Um, you know, again, on any given day, mid fifties, unfavorable rating means that some people are holding their nose and voting for if, if a poll like the Reuters poll is, is true.
I mean, a lot of people holding their nose.
mark mitchell
Uh, well, We get a lot of flack for this, Peter, because we routinely show Joe Biden with a higher job accrual rating than anybody else in the industry.
We've had him as high as 45% after that debate with 55% unfavorable, so 10 points underwater.
But here's the thing.
peter navarro
What's Donald Trump's unfavorables?
mark mitchell
Donald Trump right now is the most favorably viewed politician every time we ask, in every poll, than any other major political character that we poll on.
peter navarro
Is his favorables higher than his unfavorables?
Is his favorables higher than his unfavorables?
mark mitchell
He's almost always a majority favorable, 51-52.
slightly higher than Biden.
unidentified
Yeah.
mark mitchell
But he you know, this is a very divided nation. The fact that
anybody gets above a majority is incredible. And he does.
And of course, you know, he does also routinely have a
higher, very unfavorable, but the NDA is fewer somewhat.
So he's viewed more favorably than literally anybody like
peter navarro
me. Let me ask again.
Let me give me just a quick ones and give you back the mic.
But I have said that the campaign now, with all this
chaos, boils down to on their side, Orange Man, bad
abortion, abortion, abortion.
Whereas on our side what we need to do is get away from personalities and focus on policy because every policy we trump them on, pun intended.
Is that, we're going to break now?
I guess we're going to break.
You stick with us, we come back?
unidentified
Sure.
peter navarro
So after the break, can you go through where the policies are?
Economy, border, and all of that, and see where we match up.
And is this a policy election or a person election?
All right, Peter K. Navarro in with Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen.
And he will come back and have the mic back and we'll keep up the scenario.
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Alright my buds, here in the war room, the posse, let's bring back Mark Mitchell.
We're talking polling and before the break, Mark, my take on this election right now given the chaos is That we, on the Trump side, need to run this as a policy campaign.
They're going to come at us with Orange Man Bad and abortion, but we trump them on all the top polling issues that matter.
Am I right or wrong, sir?
mark mitchell
Well, I can absolutely tell you based on all of our issue polling that Republicans have an edge on almost every issue that matters to voters on the economy, on inflation.
We're talking about a lead over Republicans over Democrats in the teens on the issue of inflation and the economy, which voters also tell us is their most important issue.
But I also have to say, I'm not sure If that's, people know Trump, people trust him, the people that support him, and people on the left, I think, are supporting Biden because, you know, he's just part of their party.
I don't know if this is going to necessarily be a referendum on the issues.
The thing to me that affected the race, the two biggest things in the last month are that debate, rallied Democrats, and then the RNC gave Trump a really big bounce Especially in independence, and I didn't see a lot of deep policy talk.
I think it was the optimism and the unity and just everybody coming together, you know, post his assassination attempt.
So if they could somehow put that lightning in a bottle, but you know, 27% of the electorate says economy is the biggest issue, followed by border security at 20%.
Right there, you add those up, that's 47% of people, and Republicans lead really big on that.
And then you add in things that could also be construed as favoring Trump, violent crime, that gets you up to 55%.
You add in government corruption, drain the swamp, that gets you up to 63%.
What's another one that Republicans have an advantage on?
I can tell you abortion is the third most important issue, it's only 10%.
Only 13% of women care most about abortion.
Only 11% of 18-39 year olds.
Only 18% of Democrats.
It's not even the Democrats' number one issue anymore.
It's the economy.
Now, I will say, like, there has been... Let me ask you a question, Mark.
peter navarro
Mark, Mark.
Is any of this...
Indoctrination of the kids in the schools, or the transgender destruction of women's sports, the general mutilization of young boys.
Does any of that show up in your polling in any kind of woke ways?
Is there a question framed directly or indirectly about the wokeness, DEI, and all of that stuff?
Because to me, that's like independents and Republicans.
And a lot of mainstream Democrats are offended by that.
Is that showing up?
Do you poll for that?
mark mitchell
So that's a really tough one to put in a stack-ranked issue set, but it's also a very easy one to poll about, you know, many, many different ways.
And we have a huge library of anti-woke polling.
You know, things like DEI making companies worse, not better.
Things like voters overwhelmingly supporting bans on, you know, hormone replacement therapy and gender assignment.
People even on abortion, like the number, I think the number of people who actually support six to nine month abortions, only like 12%.
It's only like in the 20s for Biden supporters.
So they don't, believe in late-term abortion, but they just think that the
other things are more important.
So the country, on the woke gender stuff...
mike lindell
What about the weapon...
unidentified
Yeah, go ahead.
peter navarro
Finish that thought.
No, finish your thought on the woke...
mark mitchell
I'm just saying, on the woke gender stuff, they're right-leaning, but some of them, it's
just not the most important thing.
peter navarro
And what about the weaponization of government in terms of putting people like me in prison
or trying to put Donald Trump in prison?
Does that move... does that more... with the independents, or does that appear at all...
I mean, it seems like every time they crack down on Donald Trump, his numbers go up.
So where does that reflect it in your polls?
I mean, is the weaponization of the justice system a salient issue in this campaign?
mark mitchell
100% I would say like more of an issue over the last, you know, maybe the 12 months starting in March 2023 when coming after Trump with an indictment really did get his campaign right back on track.
He was pulling kind of poorly in January and February of 2023 and then all of a sudden it turned right on around.
And then there was this period, you know, 2022, 2023, where we'd ask people about what they think about the FBI, the Department of Justice.
We did it in a bunch of different ways.
But basically, we saw that number keep, like, ratcheting up.
We saw 53% of Americans thought the FBI was Joe Biden's personal Gestapo.
Then we had 60% of people thinking the media is the enemy of the people.
Then we had 64% who said that they thought January 6 was a Fed's erection.
Then we had 66, I think, percent of people agreeing that the political weaponization of the justice against Donald Trump was banana republic stuff.
So I mean, the number kept getting higher and higher.
peter navarro
So does that not fit anywhere in your stack polling thing?
Or is it a function of you not polling that?
mark mitchell
Yeah, we could probably test weaponization of government.
We haven't put it in there.
I think one of the things you'll see, though, Is that I think a lot of people, Democrats and liberals, think that Trump's going to weaponize the government as well.
So the fear, the sensitivity is high there.
And I think the biggest theme is just the lack of trust.
peter navarro
Again, the issue there, the issue there is retribution versus accountability.
The idea of the Democrats running amok and not holding them accountable, it means they're just going to do it again anytime they have power.
Whereas if you go in there and all you'd focus on is retribution and to the exclusion of dealing with the economy and the board and everything, that's a different set of facts.
So clearly their pollsters are trying to push that And what we're saying is, no, no, no, no.
They've weaponized the government that's dangerous.
They can come for you, they can come for me, they can come for you, and they need to be held accountable.
I mean, I think that's a hard polling test for you, but I think you'd be missing something if you don't figure that one out.
mark mitchell
No, I think you gave me a good word.
I don't think retribution is a good word to use.
I think Trump should stay away from that.
I'll put a question in the field Thursday, get results back next week.
You know.
peter navarro
And the question is, if the Democrats are not held accountable for weaponizing the justice
system, will they keep doing it or something like that?
That's the problem.
It's like it's not a one off.
They're trying to say, well, you know, it's like Trump's going to get in there and and retribution for what we did.
And, you know, kumbaya now that if they win.
But no, no, no.
If they get back, look, they put me in prison.
They put Bannon's in prison right now.
They're trying to put Trump in prison for 700 years.
And by the way, if Kamala Harris wins, Trump's going to prison.
Okay?
So, in a lot of ways, there's a poll question for you there.
It's like, in many ways, this is a referendum on whether Trump should go to prison.
American people are going to vote overwhelmingly against that.
Out of fairness.
So, go ahead.
mark mitchell
I agree with that.
I mean, there were people that were happy that Trump was going through the legal process.
Some people still do trust justice.
They figured that if he didn't do anything wrong, that potentially he would be found not guilty.
But there were so many of these questions, a lot of them conflicted.
On the flip side, the majority of people said, no, there's no way that Trump's getting a fair trial in New York.
Or Atlanta.
Yeah, right.
peter navarro
Or in Washington, D.C.
I mean, look, I had a jury pool in Washington, D.C.
You can't make this up.
Do you remember what the vote was for Biden in Washington, D.C.?
mark mitchell
Oh, it was a 99 percent.
peter navarro
Yeah, 95 percent.
So you're drawing a jury pool.
It's going to judge me, 95 percent of whom voted for Joe Biden and the 5 percent that might show up in the courtroom.
The prosecution has jury cards to get him out of there.
So, I mean, there's another question.
Can Trump get a fair trial in Manhattan, D.C., or Atlanta, blue states?
I just think this issue is important.
mark mitchell
Well, from a polling perspective, I have numbers that to me show that Kamala Harris Polls worse than Biden.
I'm not going to give you exact numbers because it's one night out of three nights.
But we went back into the field yesterday testing Kamala versus Trump, and she does significantly worse than Biden did in this week's poll, where, again, we had Trump up plus eight over Biden, plus 11 in the multiway, like back in the double digits.
peter navarro
If a Trump strategist reads your poll, What does it tell him about the best line of attack or attacks on Kamala?
What do you hit her on?
The border is the only thing that she was given responsibility for and she faded on.
Is it just her personality?
What do they get her on?
How would you attack Harris in terms of personality or policy based on the polling?
I'm not asking you to do it as a pollster, but if I'm consuming your poll as a strategist, what's my lesson?
mark mitchell
Well, Jay, I would say we've put new questions in the field.
Let me try and pull this up.
But this is exactly the kind of thing that we're trying to figure out.
We have a question right now.
Is Kamala Harris the best possible candidate for the Democrat Party this year?
Plurality say no.
Again, this will be coming out Thursday or Friday.
Um, you know, we have other questions that we asked a week or two ago.
I forget the numbers off the top of my head, but we asked is a plurality lesser, more than a majority, less than a majority.
So this was one night results.
38% say yes.
43% say no.
Only 74% of Democrats Say yes.
51% of independents say no.
peter navarro
How many people are offended in your polls by the coup d'etat that they've just witnessed?
I predicted back in January Biden wouldn't be the nominee, that he'd go through the primary so they wouldn't have a contested primary and then turn it over to somebody.
How offensive is that?
Is that a big issue?
mark mitchell
Again, it all comes down to how you ask it.
And here's a question you could ask.
President Joe Biden recently announced he would end his reelection campaign.
Do you approve or disapprove of Biden's decision to end his campaign?
Before I say the results, let me say we've asked, should Biden step out?
And every time we ask, it's been less than a majority of Democrats who want Biden gone, even as recently as a month ago.
I think we got above 50% once.
unidentified
And now, like, again... If you can hear the music, our time regretfully is over.
peter navarro
You and I are going to get together again on the air sometime soon.
Mark Mitchell Rasmussen, be sure to...
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
peter navarro
Alright, Peter K. Navarro in for the Admiral Stephen K. Bannon.
Just to let you know, new book out, the new MAGA deal.
And wow, look at this, with an introduction by Stephen K. Bannon.
This book is published by Don Jr.' 's publishing thing.
And look, the reason why it's important, the reason why I was getting in the grill of Mark Mitchell in the previous segment is I do believe That policy is the way to go on this campaign.
And the New MAGA Deal, you can go to newmagadeal.com, newmagadeal.com.
Policy is where we're going to beat the evil Bidenites, now known as the Heresies.
That's pretty good.
Good pun there.
We got chapters from War Room stalwarts like Russ Vogt, Mike Davis, Rick Grenell on foreign policy.
We got Dave Bernhardt, the Department of the Interior.
And here's the thing, it's like, this campaign, they're going to go after Donald Trump as orange man bad, you know that, and abortion.
That's all they have.
What we have is in this book.
We beat him on the economy.
We beat him on border security.
We beat him on national security.
We beat him on An end to endless wars and all the stuff going on in Ukraine and Gaza, and Lord knows we beat them on all the weaponization of the justice or injustice system, as the boss says.
We beat them on strategic petroleum drilling.
Drill, baby, drill.
We beat them on all of these cultural issues.
There's a chapter here on free the J6 prisoners.
There's a chapter on the transgender destruction of women's sports.
Newmagedeal.com.
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That's my advertisement.
I'm only making it not to sell books.
But to win the election.
This will help you win the election because it will equip you with a defense.
Anybody says that MAGA is anything other than mainstream is wrong.
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NewMAGADeal.com.
All right, let's get that clip in, Cameron.
And you're going to watch my pulse go up.
The over-under on this clip going all the way to the end is under.
OK, let's do it.
unidentified
This election now has changed on a lot of metrics.
And the theme, the thread rather, that's going to run throughout all of those metrics is the race and the gender of the Democratic nominee.
And that is a reality.
Hillary Clinton had to face that.
Hillary Clinton had a lot of political baggage for 30 plus years coming into that race, no doubt about it.
But at the end of the day, It fell along the line about how the country viewed a woman in an executive role running this country, commanding its military, its armed forces.
And now they're faced with that again.
But I'm here to say this feels different.
I said this yesterday to my wife.
We were talking.
I said this could be bigger than Obama in 08.
This has a very different feel to it.
That's it.
That's it.
peter navarro
This could be bigger than Obama in 08.
Remember the first thing that happened when Obama in 08 happened was the biggest recession since the Great Depression.
unidentified
So, oh lord help us.
peter navarro
Between now and Mike Lindell coming in in a few minutes, all I gotta say is this.
God bless J.D.
Vance as the vice presidential pick.
Kamala Harris, in four years, was given one significant task.
You know what it was.
She was supposed to go down and be the border czar.
She went down there, stuck her nose up in the air like she likes to do.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha.
peter navarro
Took a whiff of that stench coming over the Rio Grande.
Turned tail and ran to Air Force Two, went back to the West Wing, and 8 million murderers, rapists, drug cartelists, sex traffickers, communist Chinese spies, Islamic terrorists, and millions of illiterate illegal aliens followed her into this country to ruin the wages of black, brown, and blue-collar America and take millions of jobs.
Just look at the statistics from the government itself.
That's Kamala Harris.
Do you think if Donald John Trump was sitting behind the Resolute desk, called J.D.
in and said, hey J.D., go down to the border, secure that border down there, as I do some stuff on here to do it, you think he would have turntailed and run?
Not J.D.
Vance.
J.D.
Vance is going to help us get Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and the heartland of America because the people who matter there, who make stuff, No, the J.D.
Vance is one of them.
All right, Mr. Lindell, before you get started, I've given you two beautiful ideas.
My fiancé, Bonnie, came up with it.
The Wii pillow, big enough for two, still waiting for that.
And then just the other night I gave you the prison pillow, because as you know, from my experience, the Bureau of Prison does not give prisoners pillows.
So I'm just saying, at some point you might want to take me up on this.
The floor is yours, sir.
Do with it as you will.
mike lindell
I've been in jails and stuff.
They don't let anything in, Peter.
I tried to get in every time I was in jail with the pillow and they just wouldn't allow it.
But the political prisoner special, I told Steve we were going to break records while
he was there and keep the war room going and there it is everybody.
This is the pillow.
We've sold over 83 million.
We put it on sale.
unidentified
This is exclusive for the War Room posse.
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Doesn't matter how many you buy.
mike lindell
You see it on TV right now for a higher price.
This is a War Room exclusive.
unidentified
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This is what they're all making.
mike lindell
We've added more employees.
We keep adding as the War Room keeps supporting them.
Promo code WARROOM.
Go to the website, though.
You can go there, too.
Scroll down till you see, Steve.
There's the other USB product.
The MyPillow Mattress Topper 9898.
unidentified
Our $99.98 for the Queen, $119.98 for the King.
mike lindell
You've got the towels on sale.
You've got the, there's those pillows, two for $25, everybody.
The American flag, those are the multi-use my pillows.
Those are the ones you could sneak into the jails.
I'll tell you, they're compact and you can use them.
unidentified
You are a co-conspirator now, Lindell.
peter navarro
Sneaking them in, baby.
MyPillow.com, baby.
Support it.
He is a patriot.
That's why.
And he makes pretty damn good pillows, too.
I am Peter K. Navarro.
I am in for Stephen K. Bannon.
Never forget whose show this is.
Stephen K. Bannon, the Admiral.
He is a patriot.
They are trying to put us in prison.
We need to change things.
This is where it begins.
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