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unidentified
I would have to get back to you.
That is a no.
You're full of s*** today.
You're just being completely dishonest.
Mr. Chairman, we have to maintain decorum in this committee, no matter how upset we get.
Have you provided any and all memos to this committee that we've asked you on July 15th?
Have you provided all memorandums within the Secret Service?
I would have to get back to you on that.
That is a no.
You are being dishonest or lying.
You're being dishonest here with this committee.
These are important questions that the American people want answers to and you're just dodging and talking around it in generalities and we had to subpoena you to be here and you won't even answer the questions.
We've asked you repeatedly to answer our questions.
This isn't hard.
These are not hard questions.
The form of this resolution is as follows.
Impeaching Kimberly A. Cheadle, Director of the United States Secret Service, for high crimes and misdemeanors.
Resolve that Kimberly A. Cheadle, Director of the United States Secret Service, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and that the following article of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate.
Article of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America against Kimberly A. Cheadle, Director of the United States Secret Service in maintenance and support of its impeachment against her for high crimes and misdemeanors.
dave brat
Welcome to the War Room.
Dave Brat sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon.
We're all praying for Steve Daley.
We're praying for our country.
Steve always, we know he's got the full armor of God on, even in prison.
Pray for that.
And out of honor and respect for Steve, we always open every show now in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
So Steve, we're all with you.
Yesterday, we had the great Andy Biggs on, and basically, same bottom line always, right?
This kind of nonsense and this kind of disrespect for the American people that you just saw
on the opening clip, but it goes with no punishment, no repercussions, no consequences ever from
the United States House of Representatives.
And when you don't impose any consequences, when the price is zero, you get a lot of bad
behavior, which is just unbelievable.
And so the American people are outraged.
I think it's 70% of the American people are outraged by this.
We'll see what the Democrats do.
But yesterday you saw and heard from a congresswoman who's not putting up with it.
And on the war room, she's a favorite always because she doesn't put up with it.
She's fighting for us, for all of us Americans.
We cannot have this kind of behavior from the top of Secret Service in the United States of America.
So, Nancy Mace, welcome to The War Room.
Super glad to have you on.
Can you just outline not only what you said yesterday, but more importantly, what you're putting in the hopper today, I think.
Nancy, welcome.
unidentified
Of course.
And thank you, Dave.
I appreciate it.
And good morning, everyone in the War Room.
I appreciate your support.
Number one, I was simply saying aloud what everyone else was thinking in this country, because what he did yesterday to comment To the House of Representatives, to come into Congress, to testify before Congress, and not give a single answer, but to deflect, to deny, to dodge, to run around in circles and avoid any sort of responsibility, accountability, transparency, which is what my whole line of questioning was about, was that she was just full of it.
And you can see the handwriting, even by the left, even by Democrats in the committee, Who are really trying to help her early on, finally just throw their hands up in the air and say, we're out on this.
You need to resign.
And she just sat there in defiance.
She gave middle America the middle finger because she knows that nothing is going to happen to her because no one ever does anything.
No one resigns and no one ever gets fired.
No one gets impeached.
It is this culture of failure that's been bred by the Biden administration where you lie, you deny, you dodge, and you never resign.
And so last night, Dave, I filed a motion to impeach Kimberly Cheadle.
It has never been done with the type of officer that she is.
It's never been done before.
It is historic, but historic times call for historic measures.
Now, the difference between the impeachment resolution that I filed last night and others that have been filed either yesterday or in the past is that I filed it as a privileged motion.
This means that we will have to vote on it within the next 48 hours.
I carry the same frustration with everybody else in America.
I got into this job because I was frustrated because everybody comes to Washington.
They talk a big game.
By golly, they write, you know, strongly worded letters.
But that doesn't mean anything.
What are we going to do about it?
What action are we going to take to stop this?
dave brat
Yeah, and so in your view, where are the Democrats going to be on this?
On the committee, I was somewhat shocked to see some of them coming over to a principal position.
What do you expect when it comes to this, the mechanics of what you put in the hopper?
unidentified
Well, I think we should be looking at both parties.
I'll be curious to see what they both do.
I would imagine Democrats would put up a table to motion.
There is some discussion within our party on whether or not this leads to high crimes and misdemeanors.
I want to have this debate.
Let's talk about the Constitution.
Let's talk about the responsibility.
Impeachment is a purely political process.
High crimes and misdemeanors is a political question only able to be defined by the House of Representatives.
And I think during our election of duty, I believe dereliction of duty falls into that category.
That is the reason why she should be impeached.
It should go straight to the Senate and let them put this on the record where they are.
It's one thing to say she should resign or be fired.
It is another thing to actually put your money where your mouth is and do it.
So let's do it.
dave brat
Yep, outstanding.
If you can stay with us for a couple minutes, we're having a couple intelligence experts on later in the show.
And just curious on your perspective, right, we've got the fourth branch of government, right, outweighing the first three, right, the Congress, the executive judiciary, the three-letter agencies are all out of control.
In your view, what are the two or three things, and this will give great hope to the War Room Posse and the American people, what are the two or three things we can do at the highest level to end this abuse of bad governance?
We can defund things.
What other tools do you have at your disposal?
unidentified
No, absolutely defunding things.
The other thing that we can do, and I talked to Chairman Comer on the oversight committee when it comes to CHETOL specifically, is not only can we defund our salary, for example, let's finally use the Hohmann rule, but also contempt of Congress.
Here is someone who was clearly prepped for one week, clearly prepped in how not to answer any specific questions, which I believe falls under the contempt of Congress category.
So we have many, many tools in our toolbox.
But for a war room, for the war room posse, When we have historic moments as such the time that we're in today, it is incumbent between behind every single American across the country to educate and inform and call into demand your member of Congress get on board with America.
It's not enough to talk a big game.
What action are we, are they going to take?
So phones should be lighting up.
Emails should be sent.
We have the ability to take a principled stand.
Tell them to get on board with the impeachment or with the content of Congress.
All the things, defunding Chito's salary, all the things, all the tools that we have
in the toolbox.
We have the ability to take a principled stand.
We have the ability to take a principled action.
And that's what we should be doing now.
And I am just like everybody else out there.
I work hard, I believe in my country, and I'm trying to make a difference.
But War Room Posse can make a difference, too.
dave brat
Right.
Thank you for all that.
And, you know, our favorite person is Stephen K. Bannon, and it was good to see the house take a little more action on him.
But again, the Posse wants to see more fighters like you out there.
What is the Congress doing?
You know, the president at the RNC, the convention was great, right?
Usually, the check writers and the grassroots are not aligned, right?
In Virginia politics, the grassroots usually comes through and does the right thing for the country, and the check writers only come through when it's convenient for them or they got some policy in the hopper.
That convention was great.
It looked like everyone on our side of the football, all political views of my own, were aligned, right?
The joy, the happiness, it was great.
And then Trump's big three issues, other war rooms, big three issues, right?
The border invasion, the out-of-control spending that's funding the administrative state, and then the endless wars.
And so we finally have a messenger, but we need all of our folks, 220 messengers in the House.
What can the House do, right, to get kind of a new Gingrich contract, even if it's just those three issues?
What's the House doing when it comes to messaging?
unidentified
Well, that's the million dollar question.
And ironically for the whole nation, Donald Trump is the one that's unifying us.
Donald Trump is the one that's bringing the country together.
Not only is he bringing the party together, he is the man of the moment.
He's bringing a nation that needs healing, a nation that's in chaos, a nation that's in crisis.
And he's the one that's actually bringing everyone together and leading us out of this.
And I will tell you, In the last week or so, I represent a very purple district, okay?
It's not bright red like the rest of the state of South Carolina.
We are very, very purple.
I have about 40% of my voters are independent.
They're unaffiliated.
They're not Republican.
They're not Democrat.
I will tell you in the moments, the minutes, the hours, and the days after the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, that moment when he stood up, As quickly as they did with a fist, a defiant fist in the air.
He brought the nation together.
I had blacks, whites, Democrats, Republicans, people literally pulling over on the side of the road, stopping traffic, jumping out of their cars because everybody had something to say.
And the common theme was we support Donald Trump.
Trump. And so to be a part of this historic moment in our nation's history
is a huge honor. It is a huge privilege. I do not want to see our party wasted,
which is why it is so important that 220 of us, the members of Congress,
know where the American people are.
They need to know how middle America, hardworking America feels about what's happening
in this country, because that is the only way we're gonna change the direction of the nation.
And then when we win it all in November, it is gonna be incumbent between,
behind everybody that's watching today, behind every Republican, every independent,
everybody across the country, to make sure they hold the Republican Party accountable.
No more campaign promises.
We want campaign action.
What are we going to do with the great responsibility we are going to have come January to fix the border, to fix inflation, to fix spending, to end the endless wars?
And the other thing I'm going to add to this, because it's really important to independent voters, is women.
Donald Trump has shown you can be pro-life and be pro-women.
You can care about women and care about life.
He is showing America how to do that.
And that is really important.
To be able to flip this in, get the White House for Donald Trump, and to get a supermajority in both chambers and be able to do something for the nation.
dave brat
The great Nancy Mace.
Congresswoman, thank you so much for being with us in the War Room.
We see why everybody loves you out there.
Keep doing what you're doing, fighting for the American people.
God bless you.
Thanks for being with us.
unidentified
Thank you.
NancyMace.org, and God bless each and every one of you.
Thank you.
dave brat
Great.
Awesome.
Thanks, Nancy.
All right, we're going to go over to another one of our intelligence experts that I look forward to hearing from every time, Mike Benz.
Mike, do we have you up and at them?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, good, good, good.
dave brat
Mike, we got technical difficulties, but we have Michelle Bachmann with us, another great American hero, leader, good friends.
She's over at Regent University in Virginia as well.
And so, Michelle, I think you wanted to come on and talk a little bit about the endless wars.
We haven't been covering that because of all the politics, but fire away.
Where are you leading us today, Congresswoman?
unidentified
Hey Brother Brett, it's great to talk to you this morning.
Yeah, this is really kind of an amazing story and thanks for just having me on to go over it quickly.
Well, yesterday the White House issued an executive order, an executive And it created a five alarm bell fire in my brain because here you have Biden carefully managed out of sight in Delaware after a tweet pulled him out of this presidential race.
The second tweet anointed his successor.
And this executive order was issued yesterday when no one's heard from him.
But it delegates presidential powers To the secretaries of the Treasury and to state.
So what I just said is this executive order is delegating presidential powers to the secretaries of Treasury and Secretary of State.
Yeah.
to the Ukraine slush fund and to future executive orders.
Oh.
So the people who've been playing president behind the scenes for three and a half years
are thoroughly in charge now.
As of yesterday, Monday, July 22nd, they aren't wasting time.
So here Biden is we don't know what and the coup actors are running the show.
the show. So they intend to complete whatever plans they have prior to the next political
puppet moving into the White House come January 24. So the Biden White House has a track record
of lawlessness. But this is the tale.
dave brat
Michelle Michelle back after the break with you. She just teed it up. Who's in control
We're going to find out following the break with Michelle Bachmann.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
dave brat
Back in the war room, Dave Brat sitting in with Stephen K.
Bannon and one of the crowd favorites, Congresswoman Michelle Bachman.
We grew up next door to each other, didn't know that until we met each other after Congress.
She's a great leader over at Regent University and Liberty University.
We do stuff together.
Two great schools that have stuck to their knitting and kept principled Christian leadership at the forefront.
And so, Congresswoman, let's just start off right where we ended.
Who's in charge, right?
The War Room loves this kind of stuff, right?
Everybody knows the globalists are running things.
You've just shown that we have puppets running the U.S.
government and the endless wars at the highest levels, is what you just showed.
You might want to review that again quick.
And then who is in charge?
Thank you, Michelle.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey David, thank you.
Yes, yesterday an executive order was issued by the White House signed by Joe Biden.
Again, this is a guy who has been waylaid, but he had time to issue an executive order that delegates his presidential powers and authorities not to the Vice President, But to the Secretary of State and to the Secretary of Treasury.
So if you want to know who's in charge, I would start there.
Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury, and I have given to Cameron both the executive orders so the posse can find, Cameron can post, so that the posse can read this executive order that was issued yesterday.
and the underlying legislation that it refers to, and that's essentially this Ukraine funding bill.
So that's what it refers to.
But here's what's key about this executive order.
It said the president is delegating his authority to these two secretaries, cabinet secretaries,
but it also says, and all future legislation, all future executive orders.
So it isn't just for now.
And here's what's interesting.
Mark Stein wrote a great column that came out this morning.
He cites our world and data hub.
He says, you know how many people have COVID right now?
In Canada, it's eight people out of a million.
In Mexico, it's three people out of a million.
In Puerto Rico, it's nobody.
The only country in the world not reporting COVID death on our world and data hub is the United States of America.
So Joe Biden is this aberration.
When nobody has COVID, somehow he has COVID and he's still able to sign executive orders to delegate his presidential authorities Hey, Congresswoman, we got an expert coming up.
dave brat
Mike Benz follows you.
He's going to be weighing in on exactly those issues.
So I think the President, Trump, listens to this show.
Why don't you talk to him right now and tell him What your recommendations are for Secretary of State and Secretary of Treasury and all these power positions that are part of the blob, right?
As Mike Benz says.
How important are the appointments we make?
And should we put Wall Street globalists in charge there?
Or do you think we should put some grassroots leaders in charge of those?
unidentified
I think we know the answer to that.
The whole focus of this is to bring down the United States of America, to push the United States into a global governance situation.
That is opposite of President Trump.
He is the anti-globalist president, so he's got to choose people who are America first, who understand American sovereignty, who reject global governance.
dave brat
Yep.
Congresswoman Michelle Bachman, thanks for being with us.
We're going to get you back on tomorrow if you're free as well.
We love hearing from you.
You're a crowd favorite and you're a blessing to this country.
Thanks for being with us, Michelle.
unidentified
God bless you, Brother Brett.
dave brat
You bet.
All right, we have a special treat right now.
We got Mike Benz with us on the show.
I keep referring to his interview with Tucker Carlson.
Today, I've had to listen.
I listened to it four times last week to try and pack the stuff in my head.
But he's great at showing how the State Department and DOD have carve-outs with the mainstream media.
And then a lot of this stuff is going through the tip of the spear right now, which appears to be DHS, Department of Homeland Security, which now just happens to be ahead of, you know, the president's security attachment as well.
And so, Mike Benz, welcome to the War Room.
And why don't you just, you know, Give it to us from the top down.
Who's running this globalist blob that you talk about?
Who's at the top of the pyramid?
And then what are the cutouts that we in the war room posse should know about so we can be more effective spreading this message?
And everybody should be following Mike Benz, by the way.
If you've missed him in the past, you're missing a lot of truth.
Mike, take it over.
mike benz
Well, there's a lot of different power factions who struggle for the senior position in the blob.
And you can, you know, the reason that I use the word blob, it wasn't me who coined it.
It was Obama's deputy national security advisor.
Ben Rhodes, who was describing an apparatus within the U.S.
government more powerful than the presidency.
This was after Obama's struggles with his own foreign policy establishment.
That's really what the blob refers to.
It refers to this nexus within the government of the Pentagon, the State Department, and
the CIA in the intelligence community.
And then sort of above that, the corporate and financial stakeholders who serve as a
kind of donor and drafter class.
These are the folks who pay money into the coffers of presidents or elected officials
in order to determine the personnel at the Pentagon, at the CIA, at the State Department.
But then who also, their own personal businesses, draft, almost like in a bike race, they draft off of the battering ram that goes first when the government takes action to secure their markets or to conquer territory for them to operate in.
So almost like in a bike race where you don't want to be out in front, You want to be right behind the person cutting the wind, the Pentagon cuts the wind, the State Department, the CIA.
Government agencies cut the wind for companies like Exxon Mobil and Walmart and Microsoft and pretty much every large publicly traded multinational company.
So you have this constant sort of jockeying for the top spot on any particular issue or in any particular industry.
But they often come together when it comes to a presidential race.
They form these kind of groupings.
And in the case of Biden versus Trump, It was very clear that the foreign policy establishment almost unanimously detested Donald Trump and saw him as akin to a foreign dictator.
Not necessarily that they actually saw him this way, I should say, but that they cynically framed him that way in order to break out the same toolkit they use to depose of foreign leaders.
That is, our whole foreign policy establishment uses this this dichotomy between democracy and autocracy.
In the 1920s, or the 1910s, Woodrow Wilson penned this idea that our foreign policy establishment exists
to make the world safe for democracy, which gave us this carte blanche
to form regime change apparatuses to overthrow anyone who's in autocracy
and replace it with a democracy.
Now, of course, this has sort of become a bit of a joke, given that our definition of democracy
is now completely indistinguishable from autocracy.
We have vassal states like Ukraine, which don't even hold elections anymore,
and they're said to be democracy.
You have Biden hitting Trump with 91 felony charges and 1,000 years in prison time
until this SCOTUS immunity decision came down.
That's said to be democracy.
Censoring the media is now said to be democracy.
But to your point around DHS, DHS plays a really interesting role in all of this,
because DHS has now served for about.
Seven years as one of the main connective tissues between the foreign policy establishment's Department of Dirty Tricks abroad being laundered against US citizens here at home.
DHS was obviously set up in the immediate aftermath of 9-11.
And it was, you know, sort of initially supposed to be this counterterrorism vehicle to stop another 9-11.
It is now spawned into mission-creeping control over a dozen different federal agencies, including TSA, but also including the Secret Service.
Now, just a little bit of backstory on this.
As you mentioned on the Tucker hit, I went over DHS's role as the nerve center of the government's domestic censorship apparatus, which was the fact that DHS was seen as something really unique.
When they were trying to set up the first ever domestic censorship bureau in this country, which had a really obscure name, it was called the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.
It had security in its name twice, even though it really had nothing to do with security.
It was a censorship agency.
They pulled off a really cute trick, CISA did, which was they said, well, it was the
last act of Obama's outgoing DHS Secretary, Jeb Johnson, to declare elections to be critical
infrastructure.
They did this in the early iteration of Russiagate, where they said, well, Russia might be hacking our elections.
And so elections have to be deemed critical infrastructure.
So we have a big, bad federal agency who's able to take it on.
But then they did a few things that were really- And say that again, Mike.
dave brat
Mike, say that again, because that's the piece that goes by so quickly and it's so huge.
So say that again, they're considered critical infrastructure in law, and that gives them the ability to do what?
mike benz
Yeah, so DHS can't act, can't spend a dollar, can't spend a nickel, has no jurisdiction to protect any, you know, to lower satellites, subsea cables, federal buildings, unless something's designated so-called critical infrastructure.
That's what DHS is supposed to protect.
But then they did something really cute in January 2017, which is that they declared not the hard physical structures of dams or electrical grids, but the metaphysical concept of elections as critical infrastructure.
unidentified
Wow.
mike benz
And then, that was the first cute trick they pulled off.
And then, effectively in November 2018, they pulled off a second cute trick, which is they said that tweets on the internet are a cyber attack on critical infrastructure if they contain misinformation.
And just like that, DHS got long-arm jurisdiction over your opinions on the internet.
dave brat
Yep.
Back, back with both of those points again.
Tweets become cyber events in law and a hundred million Americans censored as a result.
I cannot tell you how important this information is, folks.
Stay tuned.
Stay with The War Room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
dave brat
Back in the war room, sitting in with the great Stephen K.
Bannon and breaking news, it looks like Cheadle is stepping down.
That is not the signal, that's noise.
The signal is way more important and we have the best person on the planet Who's been explaining to us what the signal is, why she's stepping down, the relationship between DHS and her position and who's really in charge of these things.
And so, Mike, why don't we just hit rewind just briefly and cover the last two points that we were just covering and just take it from there and then we'll move on.
mike benz
It's important to remember in all of this that DHS is an intelligence agency.
DHS has a really unique position in our intelligence community.
We have 17 different intelligence agencies in this country, but only two of them are domestic facing.
One of them is the FBI.
The other one is DHS.
And DHS is particularly unique because it's the only domestic intelligence agency not tied to the Justice Department.
So, when we were just talking about the origins of DHS and domestic censorship online here in the U.S., there's an interesting origin story to that DHS office, which was, it was the product of a long campaign by an organization known as the Atlantic Council, which is known as NATO's think tank in Washington.
It's got seven Former CIA directors on its board.
It gets annual funding from the Pentagon, the State Department, and CIA cutouts like the National Endowment for Democracy.
And they penned a memo about a year before that office's creation and then staffed it full of a bunch of their people, that office.
But in that memo, they said, what we'd really like is for the CIA to be able to do this directly.
But actually, their first pick was to have The domestic censorship run out of the Global Engagement Center in the State Department because they had a big network there.
This is the whole, the same shop that was responsible for censorship of Twitter 1.0 from the State Department side.
But they said, we can't do that because the State Department faces outward.
Then they had another paragraph saying, well, we could park it at the CIA because this is really the sort of thing that the CIA does abroad containing the spread of hostile adversary media.
They said we can't do that for a couple reasons.
One, it's domestic.
Two, this is not the sort of thing we can really run as a clandestine operation because there's going to be so many people involved and the logistics would be a nightmare.
Then they said three, another option is we could park it at the FBI.
But the problem with the FBI is it's not, the FBI is tied to the Justice Department.
It's not illegal.
To tweet about, you know, mail-in ballots.
They said, well, that leaves us with DHS.
And what we could do, DHS is domestic intelligence, but it doesn't require an act of lawbreaking to expend federal resources on it.
And then at a September 2021 conference, reviewing everything they'd done to censor the 2020 election and the COVID-19 pandemic, A senior advisor to DHS, who was a part of that 2020 operation, confessed on tape that what they had done was effectively created a domestic CIA within DHS that combined those foreign-facing CIA powers that are not allowed at home with the domestic jurisdiction of the FBI, but without the oversight
Or control or active lawbreaking necessary related to the Justice Department by parking it at DHS.
And then lo and behold, one year later in 2022, DHS would create this intelligent, this domestic intelligence group.
I don't know if you read about this, but this had James Clapper and John Brennan put in charge of it.
That is the former head of the intelligence community and the former head of the CIA on the day Trump was inaugurated, mind you.
They were the most recent CIA and intelligence community directors.
And in those emails that came out, America First Legal actually just got these about three weeks ago.
Stephen Miller's group, his legal group.
unidentified
Right.
mike benz
After they got this thing shut down, they got the emails and it turned out that this Domestic CIA cell within DHS, run by former heads of the CIA and former heads of the entire intelligence community, explicitly targeted Trump supporters, saying that the lion's share of what we need to focus on are, quote, supporters of President Donald Trump.
This is the sort of thing that launched the Church Committee hearings in 1975.
Domestic activities of our foreign-facing Department of Dirty Tricks, who are allowed to overthrow governments, who are allowed to control media around the world, but are never supposed to come home.
They're supposed to be a guard dog, not attacking our own family's children.
And that's what we're up against here.
And you see this With DHS and the scandals around the Secret Service.
The fact is, we have so many unanswered questions about the role of Secret Service in the January 6th pipe bomber story.
The Justice Department, and once again, it's this one-two punch between the Justice Department and the Secret Service.
In the January 6th pipe bomb situation, it took an entire year of the Justice Department lying to judges and lying to defense counsel, saying that Kamala Harris was in the Capitol.
It didn't come out until I think December 2021 that Kamala Harris was at a very strange site instead.
And they actually had to update and file amended indictments in order to correct this misinformation.
They had told judges and defense counsel that actually Kamala Harris was sitting basically on top of the DNC pipe bomb.
That is, she was hand delivered directly to the site of the place that Secret Service
was supposed to stop any threats from jeopardizing.
And lo and behold, we're told the pipe bomb was sitting at the front leg of the park bench
at the entrance to the building.
You could walk by that park bench, as I did, and you have coffee on that park bench.
And it was supposed to have sat there for 17 hours from 8 p.m.
on Sunday.
on January 5th until it was discovered at 1 p.m.
the following day.
And then you have the fact that the FBI has a tape.
And I'm going to post this on my timeline again today at MikeBenzCyber on X and I'll do a zoom in so everyone can see it.
The FBI has a tape.
of the pipe bomber taking the pipe bomb out of the bag but has not disclosed it.
Because they had a stationary camera focused in on the actual park bench, but then they
cut the stationary camera before he takes it out of the bag.
What if it wasn't the same device?
What if it was a rogue person from Secret Service?
Or what if Secret Service found a device that was different from what the pipe bomber took out of the bag?
The FBI has already stonewalled us because that pipe bomber was texting from the park bench.
But then they told us, oh, the cell phone data was corrupted.
Magically, the only person out of 1,500 indictments in January 6 whose cell phone data was corrupted by AT&T happens to be the pipe bomber.
What, did the dog eat the security footage?
Did a lightning bolt strike the stationary camera just before he took it out of the bag?
What is going on here?
You seem to have this apparatus where the FBI kills the evidence and the Secret Service looks the other way.
And magically, just magically, that's how you get these two biggest attacks on democracy that we've seen.
In the past 50 years.
dave brat
Yeah, super.
Mike, I'm going to close with three lightning round questions.
I just want to reemphasize the two points that came at the end of the last session that you made.
Elections in law are now made critical infrastructure, right?
That means we've given DHS and the government the power to mess with elections.
True or false?
mike benz
It's true, and it's a really sad story about it because it was done by an executive order after Congress established CISA in late 2018.
This was bureaucratic mission creep, an executive order in January 2017 by Obama's DHS secretary.
But then on March 2017, John Kelly, who was then the DHS secretary,
the first of six for the Trump administration.
I mean, Trump was so at war with his own DHS that he went through six different DHS secretaries.
It's incredible.
But Mark Kelly, I'm sorry, John Kelly basically strong-armed the states.
I effectively, well, it was effectively turned out to be a bribery scheme.
All 50 states filed a letter opposing this.
this executive order when it first came down.
I think Democrats didn't realize at the time it would work in their favor,
and Republicans were opposed to it on federalism grounds.
But they ended up setting up essentially a bribery slush fund.
I think it was over half a billion dollars that was simply given out
to state secretary of state's offices for joining up to this network.
And so they bought off the dissenters and the early iteration of Trump's DHS,
which would later be fired, ratified it, and now we're living with it.
But it's the first thing that should go, you know, as soon as Republicans get back in office.
dave brat
Point number two we covered earlier too.
People can't, you can't believe this the first time you hear it.
That's why I want to go slow motion with this stuff.
Just 10 seconds on this.
Tweets, right?
Tweets that all of us, you know, everybody tweets.
Tweets are now defined in law as cyber events.
True or false?
mike benz
Yes, they call them cyber incidents is the technical term.
dave brat
And real quick, why was that significant?
Why did they have to do that redefinition in the law?
Because then you can do what?
mike benz
In their own words, they did it this way in order to graft off the language that had already existed around cyber security.
In the words of Alex Deimos, who was the lead advisor to CISA and who had formed a two-man consultancy with the head of CISA, as soon as they left office.
And the first client was SolarWinds, the group that CISA failed to stop the hacking of,
which is very connected to CrowdStrike, I should mention, and Dmitry Alperovitch,
and that whole Atlanta Council network.
But what Alex Deimos actually said about this was that at the time when they set all this up,
there was no offensive capability to take.
to take tweets down, there was no offensive capability around cyber whatsoever unless
it had to do with hacking or cybersecurity.
And so they simply grafted the language of cybersecurity onto it.
This is why they started using terms like the disinformation kill chain to graft off
of the cybersecurity kill chain.
Everyone can go right now and Google the 2018 DHS whole of society disinformation response
manual, which actually goes through this disinformation kill chain and even treats domestic disagreement
over issues around war, over issues around whether we should go to war with Syria, over
tweets about Seth Rich, and it treats those as so-called cyber events that are being conducted
by cyber threat actors.
So you're a cyber threat actor in DHS when you tweet something that they don't like.
dave brat
I was in Congress then, and I would have spent my every waking hour on these issues.
For me, there's nothing more serious.
There's no more serious threat.
Lastly, in closing, 30 seconds.
Also, in your interview with Tucker, you showed very clearly that democracy, the use of these terms, You know, they're metaphysical.
They're quasi-religious to the American people.
When you say democracy, it invokes things that are almost related to being made in the image of God and the highest of the highs.
Now they've changed the definition of democracy, not to we the people in the Constitution, but they've changed the definition of democracy on the hard left to processes and institutions.
So in closing, Mike, what's the upshot of that?
Why does that matter so much?
It sounds like whoop-dee-doo, whatever, it's just a definition.
No, it's fundamental.
mike benz
Yeah, this was really important.
What they did is, as soon as democracy stopped being useful to them in 2016, because remember, we never really had that much of a choice outside of a uniparty from Truman until Trump.
I mean, someone made the statistic on Twitter just yesterday that I retweeted, but it's incredible.
There has been a Bush, a Clinton, or a Biden on the ticket of every election in this country since 1976.
I mean, think about that.
There has been one person from those three families running for either president or vice president for the past 40 years?
45 years?
It's just an incredible statistic there.
If everyone in the audience is familiar with Reid Hoffman, he's the founder of LinkedIn.
Okay, yes, that's exactly right.
The new definition of democracy in the eyes of the blob is that it is a consensus of institutions rather than a consensus of individuals.
So if you try to vote your way out of control by officials from the Pentagon, the State Department, the CIA, or BlackRock, then you are conducting an attack on democracy simply for voting for the wrong candidate.
kamala harris
Are you aware of the perception of many about how the power and the discretion at ICE is being used to enforce the laws?
And do you see any parallels?
unidentified
I do not see any parallels between sworn officers and agents.
kamala harris
I'm talking about perception.
unidentified
I do not see a parallel between what is constitutionally mandated as it relates to enforcing the law.
Are you aware that there's a perception that puts ICE in the same category as the KKK?
Is that what you're asking me?
kamala harris
No, I'm very specific about what I'm asking you.
Are you aware of a perception that the way that the discretion... I see no parallel.
I'm not finished.
unidentified
I see none.
kamala harris
I'm not finished.
I'm not finished.
Are you aware that there's a perception that ICE is administering its power in a way that is causing fear and intimidation, particularly among immigrants, and specifically among immigrants coming from Mexico and Central America?
Are you aware of that perception?
unidentified
I do not see a parallel between the power and the authority that ICE has to do its job and the agents and officers who do it professionally and excellently with lots of compassion.
kamala harris
Sir, how can you be the head of an agency and be unaware of how your agency is perceived by certain communities?
unidentified
There is a lot of perceptions in the media and in the public that are incorrect about the agency and what it does.
kamala harris
But the perception exists, would you agree?
Whether or not it's correct.
And wouldn't you agree then that if that perception exists, There might need to be some work done to correct the perception.
unidentified
I do want to advocate for the workforce.
The vital public safety mission that they have to protect the homeland.
We're going to have 2 million people cross this border for the first time ever.
You're confident this border is secure?
kamala harris
We have a secure border, in that that is a priority for any nation,
including ours and our administration.
But there are still a lot of problems that we are trying to fix, given the deterioration that
happened over the last four years. We also have to put in place a law and a plan for a pathway
for citizenship for the millions of people who are here and are prepared to do what is legally
required to gain citizenship.
I am in favor of saying that we're not going to treat people who are undocumented across the border as criminals.
That's correct.
That is correct.
dave brat
Dave Brat in the War Room with the great Stephen K. Bannon.
I had not previously seen those two clips.
They're just simply astounding.
I ran 10 years ago on immigration when the numbers were nothing in comparison to what they are today, a true border invasion.
We have one of the great friends of the War Room on, Todd Bensman, with us right now.
Todd, can you put those comments in some context that shows Uh, what the left is really trying to do to this country.
Uh, and the contrast this, you know, it's, it's beyond politics.
All political views are my own.
Uh, but this is just a breaking of the law and then the worst associations that can be made to the worst atrocities in history, uh, by our government officials.
So, uh, Todd Benjamin, lead us through it.
todd bensman
Sure.
You have to remember that when you become vice president, you have to.
Tone down your true beliefs and your real views.
And then especially when you become a candidate for president in a mainstream central way where you're sort of anointed.
But to understand where she really falls on illegal immigration and border security, you have to rewind to about 2018, 2019, 2020, when she was running Her own campaign for president in the primary season.
I've done a content analysis of her statements and her website on immigration.
From that, if it's not up already, I should have a piece up on this in the New York Post very shortly.
It'll go up today.
And where she falls on illegal immigration is firmly in the militant, violent, leftist, far left fringe camp.
of the progressive left, very, very militant.
She was frequently proposing their ideas for the border for illegal immigration, which at that time was abolish ICE in deportation, in detention, create, you know, massive oversight of the U.S.
Border Patrol and ICE.
All of her proposals revolved around the Antifa placards that you saw on the streets during the riots and the looting.
Those were, you know, Occupy ICE encampments.
She was Trying to appeal to them and she took their ideology about dismantling immigration enforcement at the border to heart and actually raised her hand during, you know, the presidential, you know, the primary debates on TV, saying that she would decriminalize illegal border entry.
She promised that she was going to completely overhaul ICE That she was going to pretty much end detention, fold up private detention facilities, reduce detention space so that nobody could be held.
She bought into the idea that, you saw it right there in the clip, she was dog whistling there, that ICE agents are Nazi brown shirts.
Uh, and their detention camps are concentration camps for latter day Jews who happen to be brown skinned Spanish speakers.
She went full bore into that.
When she became vice president, she attenuated a lot of that and became kind of idiotic in her public statement.
dave brat
Todd, let me stop you right there.
I'm going to hold you over the break.
That's a good transition.
When she became vice president and then presidential timber here, we're going to see the transition.
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