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July 18, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3765: WarRoom RNC Special Day 4: New MAGA Deal
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peter navarro
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peter navarro
Every person who has taken me on this road to that prison is a friggin Democrat and a Trump hater.
It starts with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who forms the J6 committee.
I'm pissed.
That's what I'm feeling right now, but I'm also afraid of only one thing.
I'm afraid for this country.
Because this, what they're doing, should have a chilling effect on every American, regardless of their party.
If they come for me, they can come for you.
unidentified
Well, you know, as a person, I wish it was four years instead of four months.
But it is always heartening to see the system work and to see someone who has worn a suit and tie to work forever and has been in the halls of power be held accountable for refusing.
You know, I wish more people had been charged with contempt of Congress.
I understand why they weren't.
But Congress has to work on oversight.
peter navarro
If we don't control all three branches of our government, legislative, executive and judicial, their government will put some of us like me and Steve Bannon in prison and control the rest of us.
unidentified
Well, I think the issue is that people like Peter Navarro and others are still out there trying to radicalize Americans, right?
That's the point of this whole thing.
And I almost feel like it's projection.
It's the willingness and wanting it to happen, right?
That's the issue, is that they want to see this happen in the United States, to kind of sort of thrive on it, and it backs their narrative.
And it's also a way to kind of, like, express intimidation towards Americans and say, you
know, given what's going on, the rule of law is prevailing right now, and we're in some
serious trouble, but we want to push these narratives to create fear, fear in communities,
right?
And speaking of the law and order narrative, that's what they did.
That's what they did in the summer of 2020.
I was there for that.
They were pushing that sort of law and order, fear and suburban things.
That is classic Trump and Peter Navarro.
And look, Peter Navarro, I just want to say, was considered a complete lunatic in the West
Wing of the White House.
I had strict orders to keep him out of the vice president's office because he would write
these conspiracy-filled memos that he wanted to deliver to Vice President Mike Pence at
And I was specifically ordered by the vice president's chief of staff to take those memos out of his hand and make sure that he never stepped foot in the office.
That's the kind of individual that we're dealing with right now.
We heard Peter Navarro, who is fresh out of jail, I should know, by the way, literally
got out today.
And I would like every formerly, come on now, I want every formerly incarcerated person
in America, especially all the black and brown people, to have the privileges that these
formerly incarcerated, non, low melanated, because when people, it is low melanation,
it's not non-melanated.
The formerly incarcerated low-melanated individuals have, because I just, it is astounding.
Absolutely astounding.
joy reid
Because, I mean, the reality is he was helping to write the planning for how Donald Trump would stay in office.
unidentified
So you're saying the vice president wanted him completely kept out.
How much influence did he have on the Trump side of the house?
Well, that's the issue.
Right.
He would then take those memos and distribute them around the rest of the West Wing, try to get in Donald Trump's ear.
I mean, he did this like countless of times.
And I'll tell you, the staffers were aware of the type of lunacy that he was doing.
I mean, this is a man who also, I mean, tried to pick a fight with Dr. Hahn, a doctor in the West Wing.
This was in the hallway where the vice president and chief of staff actually had to step in and separate.
So, I mean, picture that and picture another Trump presidency with Peter Navarro at the helm and these types of individuals running amok and trying to run a country.
peter navarro
They stripped me of every possible defense, and then what?
Just like in Manhattan with Donald Trump, they threw me to the wolves of an anti-Trump jury in where?
The D.C.
swamp.
They convicted me.
They jailed me.
Guess what?
They did not break me.
unidentified
And they will never break Donald Trump.
peter navarro
They will never break Donald Trump.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Bye.
peter navarro
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
peter navarro
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Yo, Navarro here, back.
peter navarro
Good to be back with the posse and I couldn't be more pleased to be sitting next to my good brother here.
A man you need to know if you don't know him.
He's been on The War Room before, Sergio Gore.
Now what I love about this guy is he's running the most successful now conservative publishing imprint on behalf of Don Jr.
And I'm so pleased that he's publishing the new book, the new MAGA deal.
And Sergio, you're much more than a publisher because you're also one of Donald Trump's right-hand men.
unidentified
He's a great person, I think.
I just wanted to say, on behalf of everyone, yesterday, you blew it out of the water.
People were so happy with your speech.
People were so happy to see you back here.
So, welcome back.
Don't go anywhere again.
It is unbelievable.
I don't know if the viewers have seen the reception that you have gone.
You can't walk through hallways without people stopping you.
You know what made that speech?
peter navarro
I walked out there, it was the audience.
I didn't know what to expect and the warmth.
Of that audience and it's just everything.
unidentified
It was incredible.
I was actually with the president at a meeting.
Yeah.
He stopped the meeting as soon as he saw you and said, no, no, no, we got to watch this.
Because let's take a few minutes.
So you watched the whole thing start to finish.
Loved it.
Absolutely loved it.
So congratulations.
Bonnie was great when she came out on stage.
I hope people love that.
peter navarro
Perfect speech.
unidentified
He loved it.
He was very happy.
He was very happy.
And he loves you, frankly.
peter navarro
Look, this country loves him and we need him.
So much, and my worst day in prison, the day he got shot.
I was sitting in like a room where it's a combination of ping pong tables, TVs and I'm trying to do some some emails actually working on the speech and I looked up And the first thing I noticed was the venue I'm going Yeah, because I've been to a bunch of these I'm going wait a minute this thing has this band box feel to it what the hell those trees doing in the background right and then they pan out then they see these rooftops I'm thinking I don't know they go back
And then it hits the fan, and it was helpless in there.
unidentified
That was the worst day I had.
I think all of us were in such shock.
It just didn't feel real, if that makes sense.
It's how.
You have hundreds of law enforcement officers everywhere.
I don't know if you saw the Director of Secret Service was here yesterday.
peter navarro
You know, it's a funny thing.
I was sitting up top, my dearest girl, We knocked it out of the park in that speech at the end.
We're sitting there watching, and this big commotion comes by, and we turn, and they're saying, Senator Barrasso read her the friggin' riot act.
Chris LaCivita had to come.
unidentified
And separate him?
peter navarro
Yeah, and separate him.
unidentified
She was refusing to answer questions.
peter navarro
Why would she come to this place?
That's a desecration of the temple.
unidentified
Exactly.
peter navarro
How dare you?
Especially after you almost got the president assassinated, and then you're telling Secret Service not to wear red ties?
Are you friggin' kidding me?
I mean, these people... There's so many of them, Sergio, that need to be investigated and behind bars, frankly.
They put the good guys behind bars.
You're right.
And meanwhile, they run crazy.
unidentified
No, it was absolutely chaotic when she walked through there.
You had multiple senators.
And she just refused to answer any of the questions.
She just kept walking.
peter navarro
Why was she there?
unidentified
Who knows?
peter navarro
She just wanders in.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, she's the director.
peter navarro
I guess she can do what she deserves.
What are we looking at tonight?
unidentified
You got a busy day.
You had a busy day yesterday, yourself and the convention, so you kind of have two parallel tracks.
As you mentioned, your book, which just came out this week, and we encourage everyone to get it on NewMegaDeal.com.
I've been getting on your case a little bit because the Patriots, and by the way, a lot of them from this show.
So go ahead, sign the first one so people can see.
But literally, we've sold thousands of these signed copies.
So if your book has not arrived yet, we're going to get Dr. Navarro to sign these today.
peter navarro
My fault, but I was in prison.
unidentified
He was in prison.
And do you want to share this story?
There's a funny story about it.
Yes, go ahead.
peter navarro
There's two funny stories about that, because on two separate occasions, I had a guy come in with all of these, the book plates, right?
You sign them, and then Sergio, personally, Puts them in each book.
I'm told that, right?
unidentified
Don does actually.
peter navarro
We put Kimberly in.
unidentified
Kimberly helps.
She's very good at it too.
peter navarro
Yeah, it's a cottage operation in the Trump world.
It's very hands-on.
unidentified
You're right.
peter navarro
And so the first time the guy comes in and he's got like red pens everywhere and these things are out in the open and stuff like that and the guards take one look at him and go, you can't bring that.
So we try again in a couple weeks, like a little bit more discreet with the cards and some envelopes and stuff like that.
I actually got out of the room.
unidentified
I'm halfway about the quad and that guy goes, hey, Navarro!
That's amazing.
peter navarro
I turn around and I go...
Sergio's gonna be on my ass.
unidentified
No, but we love the viewers, the Patriots.
We've gotten hundreds of emails from people that watch this show asking about you.
Don and I joined this show with Steve after we visited you and the amount of outpouring, the amount of support that you received was incredible.
Last night was your first full night out.
What was that like?
peter navarro
Well, you go from prison to the floor of the Republican National Convention.
unidentified
And you literally flew from Miami.
peter navarro
Got out in the early morning.
My girl meets me there.
Jump on a plane.
We actually had some problems with that because the plane's avionics were down.
We had to swap, you know, it was kind of the whole thing.
But it's a surreal kind of experience.
unidentified
I wouldn't put it past the deep state to try to block you from coming here.
peter navarro
There we go.
But, you know, it's just, it's so...
Good to be back with the folks and, you know, I get out and they put Steve in.
I mean, that's just incredible.
That's a sacrilege.
And the whole theme of the speech last night is, I went to prison so you won't have to.
unidentified
And what I was trying to tell people there... Which, by the way, I thought was one of the loudest applause lines.
The convention hall erupted.
peter navarro
And you never know, because I thought, I mean, the whole theme of the speech for me More kind of conceptually was if we don't control our government, their government will control us.
But at the end of the day, viscerally, I think people understand that What I went through has really heightened awareness about this weaponization of now the injustice system.
And my case, I mean, the whole control, if you don't control our government, I go through the speech and it's like, it's the legislative branch, the executive, and the judicial branch.
All three branches of government were involved in my imprisonment.
I mean, think about that.
And there wasn't a single Republican involved in any of that, of course.
It was every time it was the Democrat.
Democrat majority in the House holds me in contempt.
Merrick Garland, Democrat Attorney General, indicts me and prosecutes me for a crime that's not really a crime ever in our history.
And then I get this Democrat Judge Ahmad Maida.
And besides stripping me of every possible defense, the worst thing he really did was not release me pending the appeal.
I mean, this is a historical constitutional case that if it's not thrown out, executive privilege and constitutional separation of powers is dead.
It's gone.
unidentified
It's gone.
peter navarro
So how can that not be a significant issue for the Supreme Court?
unidentified
So, here we are, and here you are, and... Well, you've done a phenomenal job.
I think you're making a great case on what needs to change.
peter navarro
Quickly, what's the boss' run of show tonight?
What time is he going on?
unidentified
He'll be speaking in the evening, in the 9 o'clock hour.
peter navarro
9 o'clock, okay.
unidentified
9 o'clock hour, so it's the final night of the convention.
Short speeches, right?
About 10 minutes?
You know, he loves those short speeches.
But I think people are in... It'll be incredible.
peter navarro
Alright, we'll be right back.
Sergio Gore.
NewMegaDeal.com and I've got to sit here and sign these things on the break.
I'm not allowed any water or anything.
And my girls here, you're going to see here in a little bit, too.
unidentified
All right.
peter navarro
Be right back.
unidentified
Steve, if you're watching, we're with you, brother.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
peter navarro
We've taken over that show, and we're going to do kind of the Good Morning America stuff with a posse.
I don't know if you saw my little talk last night, but this girl stole the show.
That's my sweetheart.
I call her Pixie.
The way we ended that speech last night, it's really true.
I want to talk a little bit about when people get sent to prison, particularly when they shouldn't be sent to prison, it's really their families that do the time with them.
My girl here, say hi.
Yeah, tell them a little bit about the weekend.
A little weekend.
She would come every weekend.
Tell them what you saw in the visitors room and all that stuff.
unidentified
Yeah, it's really hard because as much as you want to see as I wanted to see Peter and dying to see and look forward to it most of the week.
You know, it's really hard because it's very unpredictable of like, you know, if the doors are going to open on time because, you know, things, you know, happen in the prison and just the unpredictable part about it and then you're in a room with so many other, you know, inmates and the families, you know, forget about them, but the families and the children and they sit as I did with Peter for more than three and a half hours just talking all together and You know, and then to leave, the heartbreak, you know, on Sunday, that was the last bit I visited, you know, you're visiting Saturday and Sunday and, you know, the Sunday goodbye, like, it breaks my heart, you know, just, you know, it's heartbreaking.
Forget about me, but, you know, for the other, you know, loved ones, mothers, families, and the children, yeah.
peter navarro
She had a couple of boys wanted to get adopted by her, I think, as co-parents there.
unidentified
Yeah, we've become like, you know, a family.
So, you know, because it's just survival mode.
Everybody's on survival mode.
But, you know, Peter and I always knew, thanks to him and his strength and amazing, you know, fortitude, you know, we got this.
peter navarro
And I'm going to talk... We got this, yeah.
unidentified
Yes, yes, but we're prisoners too.
I mean, you know, I always talk about, you know, I can't call, I couldn't call him at any time.
We can't email at any time.
And sometimes the phones were out, just if, you know, you know, the maybe lightning or just the phones didn't work.
And if we didn't know beforehand, it's like, you know, what's happened, you know?
So, yeah, we're prisoners too, but you're the hero, dear.
Not me.
peter navarro
Posse's the hero.
We got a lot of work to do and next week I'll get on the show and I want to do a whole show on the scandal at the Bureau of Prisons that I uncovered.
I couldn't figure out why I got sent to prison other than for political punishment but it almost turned out to be a good thing because what I learned about the Biden administration and the scandal of the Bureau of Prisons It's a $5 billion scandal that involves just horrific abuses of the inmates themselves.
Don't worry, I haven't gone soft on crime.
unidentified
Smart on crime.
peter navarro
But what you gotta do, yeah, you gotta be smart on crime.
And the idea here is that a lot of these first-time nonviolent offenders They're there for crushingly long sentences and they're supposed to get out at a certain time and they're just not being let out.
And what that does is it costs us money as taxpayers.
But these families, it's like, it's a sad situation where they don't have anybody to put bread on the table and they wind up food stamps, housing subsidies, this, that, and the other thing.
These things are, it's a warehousing system that doesn't work.
The warehouses are good for the violent types, but for these first-timers, it's an issue.
So, this girl, she was my rock during it, and I really...
We really appreciate your support, honey.
unidentified
Oh, God.
peter navarro
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Of course.
That's what we do.
peter navarro
And you miss Steve, too, don't you?
unidentified
Yes, yes, you know, I was on the show a few months ago and then with Matt Gaetz recently.
Yes, of course, yes.
I'm sure you're sitting here, you know, you miss Steve, too.
But again, thank you, War Room audience.
Always, I've always thanked them.
You know, throughout the show and, you know, for your support.
Just knowing that you're there and that the comments, you know, we read on the boardroom, like, you know, it's just... It means a lot.
peter navarro
Let me talk a little bit about what I was trying to do in that speech last night.
If you kind of break it down.
I mean, the dramatics of somebody walking out of prison in the morning Having been in there for essentially defending the constitutional separation of powers and winding up on the stage in Milwaukee of what is going to be arguably the most important presidential election in the last hundred years.
I mean, you know this, Posse, if we lose this election, We're going to lose this country.
If we lose this election, we are going to lose this country.
And what I'm concerned about right now is that, let's face it, everything's been going our way.
Everything's been going our way and the polls look good and this and the other thing, but it's only July.
unidentified
Right.
peter navarro
I've been through this.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm sorry to interrupt you, but remember, you know, action, action, action.
Just because, you know, Biden looks feeble, Oh, yeah.
He's never gonna win.
No.
You have to get out there and vote, and I think that's one of the greatest messages you can relay to everybody.
You know, even when I'll take an Uber, when, you know, Peter wasn't there, I don't drive really well, so I take, depended on Ubers, like I would talk to the Uber drivers and people, and I would say, and they would, you know, they would bring up politics.
It was in Florida, kind of, we have conversations, and I would always say before I step out of that car, Please, just make sure, you know, because I knew, you know, they were, you know, Trump supporters, the conversation, you know, just tell your friends, tell your family, just go remember to vote, vote, vote, right?
Am I right?
peter navarro
Absolutely right.
And look, I am of the opinion and I wrote this, spoke about it in the room almost two years ago.
I don't believe Biden will actually be at the top of that ticket.
And I've said from the outset, this is just kabuki theater.
The whole idea of Biden being the candidate, they didn't have to go through the obligatory primary fight.
If they'd gone through a primary fight, the primary, you have to run to the extremes.
And so you would have had Gavin and company just trying to outwoke each other.
Saying stuff which would have got him in hot water in general.
So, you know, now you see everybody turn on Biden, including the fake news.
And, I mean, look, if this were a novel or a Hollywood movie, you reject it as being a plot too predictable, right?
The feeble guy gets on there, they expose him.
And then they dump him at the end and the Savior comes through.
Who's that going to be?
Kamala, Gavin, Michelle, whoever.
But as the boss says, let's see what happens in August.
But what I'm saying to you folks is you've got to keep Fighting on this and what I love about Steve Bannon in this show is that the people he has on teach us how to be political activists in the best sense of the word.
So if you're out in your community you can go be a pre-seed captain.
I personally would like to see between now and late September Kind of a peaceful posse organized in areas around this country, but particularly in places featured in 2,000 Mules, that great movie, so that we could do run surveillance, peaceful surveillance on any drop boxes and any kind of nefarious activity, because you know
The only way they're going to be able to win this election is by doing the 2,000 mules approach.
And by now they've probably got 10,000 mules.
And what I mean by that, if you haven't seen that movie, they stuffed the ballot box with absentee ballots that don't have any people who signed them.
unidentified
So get involved.
peter navarro
I think there's a fine line between confidence And overconfidence.
unidentified
Yes.
peter navarro
And I'm worried now, in kind of the exuberance of this all, that we're going to lose sight of the fact that this election is going to come down to three states.
I'm sitting right in one of them right now in Wisconsin.
Wisconsin.
It's Michigan.
It's Pennsylvania, right?
We're here in Milwaukee.
And in Wisconsin, it's Milwaukee and Madison versus the rest of the state.
That's the way it dopes out.
But what you have in Madison is you have the young folks.
We're doing a good job of wooing them now in the sense of more and more of these young folks are realizing that if they want a job, a house, a car, family, a future, rather than have Zuckerberg plant a chip in their friggin' head, Let them kind of live in a hovel and just enjoy the virtual world, that they're going to have to come over to Trump's America.
unidentified
Yes, indeed.
Right.
peter navarro
And then here in Milwaukee, the African-American voters are going to be a decisive factor.
And I think we're doing a good job there.
Anyway, so any last words for the posse here?
Want to say hi to Steve?
unidentified
Of course.
Of course.
Hi, Steve Bannon.
But we have this wonderful, beautiful Maureen Bannon right by our side.
Not that she doesn't know already, but I tried it, you know, already in like 10 minutes.
I'm going to have a conversation with her to give her, you know, some advice of the experienced, you know, You know, so good or bad, whatever.
We got this.
peter navarro
Come on, girl.
unidentified
Alright, we'll be right back.
peter navarro
We're taking a break.
unidentified
In the election too, we got this.
Alright, Navarro here.
peter navarro
Day two out of prison.
Feels pretty darn good.
unidentified
Uh-oh!
peter navarro
CPAC, Mr. C. Get your ass over here.
By CPAC, boy.
All right.
That's the hazards of being out in public.
You have all these people running by.
Look, I want to do a little short riff on James David Vance.
Because I want this posse to be at maximum double expresso enthusiasm for JD Vance.
I think, as the boss might use the word, it's really a perfect choice.
I've never met JD, but I feel a very special kinship with him for a particular reason.
And it has to do with what my mission was in the White House and what my mission in life became in the early 2000s.
And that was to make sure that American manufacturers and workers were defended well against the economic aggression of Communist China.
And The reason why I feel a special kinship with JD has to do with how I came to the issue of communist China and how he came to it.
If you go back to circa 2003, this was just a couple of years after communist China joined
the World Trade Organization.
I was teaching at the University of California, Irvine at the business school in a fully employed program, and I noticed people there were basically losing their jobs.
And I'm thinking, wait a minute, we're in the center of...
Hang on one second.
Hey.
unidentified
Hey.
It's so funny.
peter navarro
My producers are like, like, like, just keep it down there, Cools.
So I'm, I'm at, um, I'm at the University of California, Irvine and, um, I'm seeing all these students.
They're like 30, 35, four years old, losing their jobs.
And I'm thinking, what's going on here?
And I'm studying this, and all roads eventually lead to communist China.
So I kind of dig into this thing, and I recruit all these hundreds of students to start studying the problem.
And it was there I came up.
With the framework that would land me in the White House, and it was like, okay, let's break down how communist China is destroying the American manufacturing base and stealing millions of jobs.
And it boiled down to not just the cheap labor.
That was kind of the common conception.
They're just taking advantage.
No, no, no.
It was the intellectual property theft.
It was the currency manipulation.
It was all sorts of things that they were doing.
And what it was, was what President Trump would say years later, American carnage.
It was just the total destruction of our manufacturing base.
And ground zero for that was the Rust Belt.
Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
And I would write a book called The Coming China Wars that came out in 2006 that described this American carnage and the need to stand up to communist China.
And that would be the book that Donald Trump would actually read.
And in an interview with the Los Angeles Times say, hey this is one of my top favorite books and I would contact him and that's how I wind up sitting on this couch and was on the stage last night at the RNC.
Now what's my point?
My point is that I'm a PhD from Harvard academic out in California.
I'm at 30,000 feet trying to figure out why the macroeconomy of this country is going down the tubes.
Remember, we were on the glide path down into what was going to be the mother of all great recessions in 07, 08.
A lot of that Chinese induced.
And I'm seeing all this.
And I'm seeing the pain and suffering.
And when I did my Death by China film in 2011, I went out there and would do the stories of these real people.
So I'm at 30,000 feet looking down at that point, and all I'm seeing is specks.
The specks are the suffering people.
And one of those specks was J.D.
Vance.
One of those specks was his mother, another was his father, another was the people in his community.
He was living the experience at the micro level that I was seeing from 30,000 feet high.
And we were drawing over that time the same kind of conclusions About the devastation that happens when you lose America's ability to manufacture, to make things with your hands in factories.
And Coming China Wars, Death by China, books and a movie that I did that documents all of that.
But then you look at J.D.
Vance's just That's the micro version of it.
That's the real life kind of version of what happened to these communities from living experience.
And both of us through very different experiences have come to the same conclusion as Donald John Trump.
And it's MAGA.
It's the essence of a strong manufacturing base as the anchor of communities, not just for economic prosperity.
This isn't about just a white picket fence.
It's about our defense industrial base, the ability to defend ourselves.
If we don't have the factories here, Then we're not going to have the ability.
Remember World War II, right?
The arsenal of democracy.
That was all of the factories that we had throughout this country.
Primarily in the mess, but about in California at the time, they still made stuff out there.
Remember San Diego, they had all the aircraft factories that were used to build the fighters and the bombers that won us the war.
unidentified
J.D.
peter navarro
Vance understands this at the most visceral kind of level and I think that it's a perfect choice because this is not a national election.
When you boil, I've been through two of these already, when you boil down a presidential election We're certainly going to try to compete in all states, but let's be honest, there's blue states and there's red states.
And I think because Biden, Harris have so thoroughly bogged, just they ruined this country.
We're going to compete in places that We may ultimately win and win very well.
One would be, for example, Minnesota.
Traditional social democrats.
But they also have the Iron Range up there.
And they have manufacturing there.
And they have people there who are intelligent people who are looking around and saying, it doesn't work to get rid of the police force.
It doesn't work to have all this wokeness in the schools.
But, at the end of the day, if we take this state here, Wisconsin, we take Michigan, and we take Pennsylvania, Donald John Trump will be the 47th President of this United States.
And if you think about it, who better, who better among the crop of vice presidential hopefuls would have done a better job at wooing and campaigning in those states other than J.D.
Vance.
The man has credibility.
I wrote an article based on my memoir of the White House about what a president needs to look at in a vice president.
Loyalty, certainly.
To the man, but important, loyalty without being a sycophant.
I think the reason why I survived in the White House from the get-go, even back on the campaign, I spoke my mind.
And sometimes the boss didn't want to hear that at first, but he figured out that he would get Straight advice from me, that I wasn't going to say what he wanted to be said, I was going to say what I thought should be done.
Once he made a decision, I was back that because I knew he was wiser than me.
But you need somebody who's loyal without being a sycophant, that's J.D.
Vance.
But the second thing, and this is, look, MAGA, Posse, you know this.
You did not want a vice president.
Who wasn't going to embrace Make America Great Again principles.
And in the book, the new MAGA deal, which came out this week, it's the one that Don Jr.
is publishing, I talk about the Iron Triangle of MAGA.
It's the Steve Bannon Produce stuff here, fair trade.
It was really the signature of the 2016 campaign, along with the second part of that triangle, secure borders, and the third part, which, there's nobody more eloquent besides Donald Trump on that third leg than Stephen K. Bannon.
That's the end to the endless wars.
And J.D.
hits all three points of that triangle.
I mean, he was a veteran.
He saw firsthand what an endless war could do to the financial resources of this country and to his fellow soldiers.
So J.D.
I mean, look, Kamala, I mean, it's funny in a way, Kamala Harris, she was given one thing to do, one freaking thing to do in four years, one significant task.
You know what it was?
Secure the border, be the border czar.
2021, Biden goes, hey, Kamala, go fix that.
She goes down there.
Sticks her nose up in the air as she likes to do.
Sniffs that stench coming over the Rio Grande.
Turns tail and run.
Okay?
You think J.D.
Vance would have done that if Donald John Trump said to J.D., go down there and Fix that situation on the boots on the ground while I fix it up here with some executive orders?
unidentified
No.
peter navarro
That's the difference between J.D.
Vance and Kamala Harris, among others.
Among others.
So J.D.
Vance, embrace this guy.
They're going to go after him.
Once in a while he might stumble.
When he stumbles, we're going to be there to have his back.
And catch him if he falls.
And he's gonna be a rock for this president.
I personally think he should spend most of his time Milwaukee, Madison, upcountry Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, shipyards and the defense plants.
Run like a governor.
We need to take those states.
And I see Miles Guo right there.
Free Miles Guo.
Hey, we're going to be right back with Rick Grinnell.
I couldn't be happier.
He's one of the authors.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
peter navarro
Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon in the War Room.
I couldn't be happier to have our next guest, Rick Grinnell.
I was really blessed That Rick wrote a chapter in the new MAGA deal.
And what I love about it is it's the big picture overview of the national security environment globally.
He's only got a few minutes, so I'm going to turn the mic right over to my brother in the White House.
Thank you.
Rick Grinnell, man, you were great last night.
And tell me about Ukraine.
Tell me about Gaza.
unidentified
Well, first of all, thank God you're here.
peter navarro
I appreciate that.
unidentified
We thought about you a lot.
So, thank you for your fight.
I know a lot of people really care.
You electrified the place last night.
peter navarro
We had fun.
unidentified
I was watching MSNBC this morning and they said, we were watching the teleprompter and he went off script.
They were so offended with off-script.
You know, they like everything to completely go their way.
No dissenting views.
They'll be offended tonight when the boss does this thing.
peter navarro
He might go off-script a time or two.
unidentified
Can I just say, you know, Comcast owns NBC and MSNBC.
Comcast is all over the country asking people to give them money for cable access.
I really believe that Comcast has a responsibility to watch what's happening on that network.
It's really dangerous talk.
I mean, I've been watching Morning Joe regularly the last week.
Well, for me it's just, I want there to be, imagine a world where we just had the mainstream media like having dissenting voices.
I don't mind opinion shows.
I like them, actually.
And sometimes I like to watch and listen to the left opinion shows.
But the reality is that NBC News, which is a network, Well, it's not just Comcast, to be honest.
MSNBC to come in and out and they're hate-filled, they're one-sided, they don't like dissent.
You can listen for hours and never hear a dissenting view.
Comcast has to start getting involved.
We have to hold Comcast to account for this.
This is not good.
peter navarro
Well, it's not just Comcast, to be honest.
I mean, you look at CNN, you look at some of the...
Corporate-owned media.
Corporate-owned media.
But here's the thing.
What are we on?
Real America's voice.
You go around here and I think when, and we're going to have to work hard for this, I'm not taking this as a given, when Donald Trump becomes president, one of the things he'd be able to do is boost up the alternatives to the Pablum and PAP.
unidentified
It's one of the reasons they kicked him off of Twitter, is because he was going around the media and going straight to the people.
peter navarro
And let's not forget, Fox has cancelled Don Jr, Fox has cancelled me, Fox has cancelled a number of people from even the Trump campaign.
So what's going on there?
They don't want to hear the truth.
But we can go out I think, and some of these other networks and Gateway Pundit and good stuff like that.
unidentified
Look, I think the consumers of news.
Yeah.
All of us have a responsibility to have multiple sources.
You can't just get it from one.
And I really think that people should listen to the left podcasts and information from them.
You've just got to be able to take in all the information.
You have a responsibility to do that.
And I think too many people on the left don't do that.
They just listen to one side.
They read the New York Times and they think that's the truth.
peter navarro
I don't know if you know this, but this show is renowned for showing clips from that side.
Yeah, Steve, and his philosophy is your philosophy.
And that's on the agenda.
Yeah, I'm sure.
unidentified
Good.
Well, thanks for having me.
peter navarro
Really appreciate it.
unidentified
All the best to you.
peter navarro
Go get him.
unidentified
Thank you so much.
peter navarro
And he's working really hard for the boss, and we know we're going to see him in the next administration, and it's going to be up there.
All right, man.
unidentified
Thanks, my friend.
peter navarro
Be a good man.
unidentified
All the best.
peter navarro
Patriot.
unidentified
All right.
peter navarro
Thanks for stopping by.
unidentified
All right.
peter navarro
You like this stand-up stuff here?
All right.
So what I'm going to do in a little bit, we just got a few more minutes in this particular segment.
I want to go back and talk a little bit about the speech I gave last night and kind of break down some of the themes I was trying to bring out because this whole issue of the weaponization Of our government is, I think it's going to be an important campaign issue.
I mean, at the end of the speech, I said, I went to prison, so you won't have to.
And what I meant by that is this idea that that my situation, somebody in the high ranking official in the Trump administration winds up in prison for defending The doctrine of executive privilege that goes back to George Washington for defending the constitutional separation of powers, winds up in prison.
And at every step along the way, involving all three branches of our government, executive, legislative, and judicial, all three, a Democrat or group of Democrats was involved in my road to prison.
And it was done for partisan reasons, partly as a gambit to keep Trump out of the White House, and partly as a gambit to keep good people from serving with Donald Trump.
Because if you think you can go to jail, maybe you don't go into the White House.
I am Peter K. Navarro.
I will be back with you shortly.
We've got some great guests coming up soon.
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