July 5, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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out there. Let's that is what you call. Are you ready for it? You ready? Because I know | |
| we don't have it here in the United States. You have no idea what it's what it's got. | ||
| That's called a peaceful transfer of power. Actually, that's what we had in the United | ||
| States of America from the late seventeen hundreds until the year 2020 when Donald Trump | ||
| refused to do it. See, it's better that way. It's better that way because you actually | ||
| let the voters decide. And that's what democracies, constitutional republics are all about. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
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I know you don't like hearing that. | |
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| It's hammer time on the War Room. | ||
| Josh Hammer from Newsweek is with us today to break down an article that we check out. | ||
| I check Newsweek basically every day. | ||
| There was an interesting article today about this Lincoln Project video, which treated in quite appalling terms, Steve, It's creative. | ||
| In fact, it appears that the Lincoln Project has really overstepped The bounds of decency, even within GOP quarters that don't like the Warren, that don't like Bagger, don't like Steve. | ||
| Could you just say a bit for us, please, Josh, about what Lincoln Project did here and the fallout that Newsweek has reported on? | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| So it's great to meet you, Ben. | ||
| Great to join the War Room, as always, obviously. | ||
| Look, the Lincoln Project, I mean, what is there to say that hasn't already been said? | ||
| This is a disgusting outfit of slobbering, anti-Trump, slothful people. | ||
| I mean, this is an organization that has been Filled with scandalous pedophilia, if I can just be so blunt, for many years now. | ||
| John Weaver, many people that have been closely affiliated with the Lincoln Project, have been involved in extraordinarily scandalous and outrageous behavior. | ||
| So this disgusting video that they put out about Steve Bannon in prison is hardly something that I am particularly surprised by. | ||
| So just to make sure that we're all on the same page so that the War Room viewers can understand | ||
| what you and I are talking about if they haven't seen it. | ||
| They basically, this is the Lincoln Project, the vehemently anti-Trump organization. | ||
| It was started by disaffected former Republican operatives. | ||
| As I've said, they've been involved in all sorts of scandalous affairs over the years. | ||
| This is a highly, highly disreputable outfit would I think be a charitable way of saying it. | ||
| I have far less charitable, more colorful things to say perhaps off camera. | ||
| So in any event, they created this new advertisement, not just mocking Steve Bannon, but essentially taunting him and saying that they hope that he gets raped in prison. | ||
| If I understand the ad, I'm pretty sure that's what they're saying there. | ||
| And, you know, if there are any boundaries, you know, if there are any boundaries or any sense of ethics or anything remotely approximating ethics when it comes to politics in the year 2024, this is over that line. | ||
| I wouldn't say that. | ||
| I'm Benjamin. | ||
| I would not wish my worst political enemies to be raped. | ||
| I would never in a million years think that or let alone produce a video to that effect against Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, you name it. | ||
| None of these people. | ||
| I mean, there are some lines. | ||
| There are some lines that you simply do not cross. | ||
| And the whole point of the news folks in Newsweek who wrote up a little article about this was just to highlight that there was across the political spectrum backlash against this, not just from the anti-Trump wing, but also from the pro-Trump wing, but everyone. | ||
| And no one seemed to like this ad. | ||
| The Lincoln Project has seemed to simultaneously, you know, pull off the impossible, which is to basically unite everyone against you, to which I say, okay, that's actually a good reality check, frankly. | ||
| It's interesting, isn't it though, Josh, how, and I think Bill Maher did a similar stand-up gag against Donald Trump about him, the idea that possibly even President Trump might be raped in prison. | ||
| It's worth taking a step back that the progressives who have dominated the conversation over recent years with all sort of, with LG, B, T, Q, correctness, political correctness. | ||
| At the first drop of a hat, when it comes to the possibility of discrediting Maga's political leadership, they go straight in to the | ||
| male rape jokes as if this is something that's amusing and everyone can line up behind and laugh at. | ||
| Is it that there's a slight contradiction I think there? | ||
| I definitely think these lips should be pulled up on what is effectively hypocrisy on that | ||
| front. | ||
| I don't know what you say to that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, again, I think hypocrisy at a bare minimum. | ||
| I mean, this is just at a visceral human level disgusting, though. | ||
| I mean, like I said, you know, I tend towards a more combative and pugnacious approach toward our domestic politics. | ||
| I mean, I think that ultimately our cold, roiling civil war here in the United States ultimately ends with one side winning and the other side losing. | ||
| I pray to God that it is my side. | ||
| So I do not necessarily view my political opposition with a particularly favorable light, let alone what has happened over the past few years with this great cover-up, this great lie when it comes to Joe Biden's declining faculties and all that. | ||
| So I harbor an immense disdain for my political opposition. | ||
| Like I said, I would never in a million years wish that they be sent to prison on nonsensical charges | ||
| and then to be raped in prison. | ||
| I mean, again, there were just some lines that you don't cross. | ||
| And to your point, Benjamin, about hypocrisy, yeah, well, these are the same people | ||
| that tend towards being overly faux moralistic, that tend towards a holier-than-thou posture. | ||
| They're the ones who are yelling at us for flying our planes while they're simultaneously flying their private G7s to these environmentalist confabs in oil-producing countries like the UAE and Qatar and so forth. | ||
| To say that these people have no sense of shame and are just completely inundated in a roiling hypocrisy would be an incredible understatement. | ||
| They're the prototypical limousine liberals, the Los Angeles, San Francisco socialists and whatnot there who live in gated communities while they want to defund the police, who have private security while they want to strip you of your Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. | ||
| So, they think that they are holier than thou, while on the other hand, they are openly clamoring and hoping that their political opposition not just loses at the ballot box, but actually gets raped. | ||
| That says everything you need to know about the moral caliber, or lack thereof, of these people. | ||
| Now, Josh, you mentioned just now the fact that they lied to us, and we're going to kick that off after the break, because that's a very important article that you've just put out, a really substantial article, which says up clear that the democratic establishment, basically from the get go, on discussions to do with Biden's mental capacity, they have been lying. | ||
| And I will add, parenthetically, gaslighting as well. | ||
| I will break down your article, however, after the break. | ||
| I want to stay on this point, however, just for now on the Lincoln projects. | ||
| I think absolute revelations that these guys have no moral decency whatsoever. | ||
| And yet they have been parading themselves. | ||
| and since the emergence of Donald Trump and raising a lot of money, by the way, doing | ||
| so, by assuming, presuming that they have the moral high ground. | ||
| This advert they paid, they spent donors money and they put an advert together, which we | ||
| were showing as you were talking just a few moments ago, fantasizing, salivating over | ||
| the fact that Steve Bannon, when he's in prison, is going to get raped by other men. | ||
| These are the people that have been dominating the political discourse, the Lincoln Project, within the GOP. | ||
| Stabbing MAGA in the back, stabbing Donald Trump in the back by portraying themselves as people who have the moral high ground. | ||
| And it's totally fake, and it's totally performative. | ||
| This is where they are spending their donors' money. | ||
| I think it's absolutely outrageous. | ||
| And I'd like to ask you, Josh, and I'm very grateful that you've come on the show today to talk about this. | ||
| And your own article. | ||
| I'd just like to ask you whether you think this, the graphic-ness of this disgusting publicity that they assumed, presumably, that people would be lining up and applauding them and patting them on the back, whether this will have any permanent knock-on consequences for I think what is visibly now a shabby, disreputable outfit? | ||
| Well, I think the purpose of the Newsweek article, which wrote this up, was to collect responses from really all across the political spectrum. | ||
| I mean, you had former Obama, if I recall, even Biden staffers, who I saw on social media, come out and say, this is a step too far. | ||
| Again, this is not just an intra-Republican party, an intra-conservative movement dispute between the pro-Trump wing and the never-Trump wing. | ||
| This is going beyond that. | ||
| I mean, at this point, The reaction to this particular advertisement has literally, as I just said, included former Obama and former Biden staffers because the relevant metric is not whether you support Donald Trump, it's not whether you support Steve Bannon, it's not whether you're part of the war room posse, it's not whether you voted for a certain political candidate. | ||
| It has nothing to do with that. | ||
| The relevant metric As to whether or not you look at this ad with appreciation or, on the contrary, something closely approximating visceral disgust and utter and complete contempt, the relevant metric is whether you have any moral fiber in your being whatsoever. | ||
| And frankly, if you have more than one brain cell between the two ears. | ||
| Because again, there are just some lines that you do not cross. | ||
| Look, Benjamin, I'm a fairly right-wing guy. | ||
| I have obviously always despised the Lincoln Project, essentially since day one. | ||
| When they first formed, this was, I mean, they formed many years ago. | ||
| It wasn't entirely obvious what, at the very beginning, what they were going to become. | ||
| But within, like, weeks or months, it rapidly became clear that they were going to become a visceral, way over-the-top outfit. | ||
| And like I said, John Weaver, who's been involved with the Lincoln Project for a very long time, has a sad and scandalous history. | ||
| of trying to slide in into the direct messages of other men. | ||
| And they've been associated with all sorts of allegations of pedophilia. | ||
| I mean, this is a sordid, sordid organization. | ||
| So this is not surprising me at all that an organization that, again, has a history with | ||
| John Weaver of pedophilia and sliding into other men's DMs like that on social media. | ||
| I'm not surprised that we went from this to making light of rape. | ||
| I mean, you can connect the dots there fairly easily. | ||
| I guess the point that I'm trying to make there. | ||
| But yes, I guess if there are some people out there who were not previously familiar | ||
| with the Lincoln Project and this. | ||
| Well, you know, one can certainly hope that that's the case. | ||
| But, you know, I looked at this. | ||
| this horrific organization, then I have to think that whatever shred of remaining credibility | ||
| you might have, which you shouldn't have had in the first place, but whatever shred of | ||
| credibility you might have had left for these guys, I think after this, it has to just totally | ||
| vanish and go away. | ||
| Well, you know, one can certainly hope that that's the case. | ||
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But you know, I looked at this, I literally couldn't believe it. | |
| When I saw this video, sort of, as I say, these haters salivating at the idea that Stephen | ||
| K. Bannon, one of the greatest American patriots of his age, in what the Washington Times editorial | ||
| has called a political prisoner, that a man who in obedience to his lawyers and to President | ||
| Donald J. Trump, the center to prism, right? | ||
| For not obeying a subpoena of an invalidly constituted committee, an inquiry. | ||
| And here these people are salivating at the idea. | ||
| The people who have not stopped presuming that they have the moral high ground, salivating at the idea that one of the greatest American patriots of his age is going to be raped in prison by other convicts, and that they think this is abusing, and that they can all get together and laugh about it. | ||
| It is absolutely outrageous. | ||
| And my hope is that people watching this, Josh, people seeing this video, And I'm talking about the Lincoln Projects video, but also people watching the show right now, because we have people from all sides of the political spectrum following the war. | ||
| I hope that people will see this, this production of theirs, and realise that this article, this outfit, that has not stopped fundraising money in order to attack Donald J. Trump It's nothing more than a grifting operation, an immoral, disreputable, disgraceful, grifting operation. | ||
| And as you say, there's a line here that these people have clearly walked over, and it just shows, I think, an indication of their narcissism, that they weren't able to see this before they produced this and pushed it out. | ||
| And they are narcissists. | ||
| Josh, please stand by. | ||
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Two minutes break and then we'll come back and discuss your article. | |
| Back with Josh Hammer, opinion editor of Newsweek, now here on The War Room. | ||
| Josh, what I liked about your article here is that it's not participating in the pretense that the rest of the world's mainstream media is indulging in, which is saying, oh, we had no idea. | ||
| We had no idea that Joe Biden had declined so much. | ||
| We're surprised, shocked. | ||
| As Claude Rains would have done it in Casablanca. | ||
| Shocked, shocked that Joe Biden has declined so much. | ||
| Your article just rips this apart and exposes it for what it is, which is lies plus gaslighting. | ||
| Do you want to say a bit about How you came to this, because this is 100% correct, but this is not what the mainstream media, this is not their official approved and sanctioned line, is it? | ||
| You strayed somewhat from the choir on this, and I think very courageously too. | ||
| Do you want to say a bit about how you put this together? | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| So look, I mean, I work for Newsweek, which is obviously a mainstream media company, but I myself am a very conservative guy. | ||
| But I call it like I see it at every column that I write. | ||
| In this particular case, you know, what you've seen Benjamin, over the past week, since the catastrophe heard around the world in Joe Biden's octogenarian, doddering, gonna-keel-over-and-die performance last Thursday in Atlanta, Georgia, during the debate, what you've seen is the media pulled this 180. | ||
| If you go back as recently as two weeks ago, a week and a half, two weeks ago, You will find New York Times articles calling these videos of Joe Biden staring off into outer space, of wandering off, of him just freezing. | ||
| They said it was misleading. | ||
| They said these videos were cheap fakes. | ||
| And then, literally, as soon as Jake Tapper and Dana Bash finished that debate last Thursday night on CNN, They pulled a 180 on us immediately. | ||
| CNN, Van Jones, MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, New York Times editorial board, Washington Post editorial board, they immediately flipped a switch and they went all in. | ||
| The New York Times started pumping out daily, multiple times a day, pieces saying, you know what? | ||
| The signs of Joe Biden declining actually are pretty frequent and are pretty obvious. | ||
| Just yesterday, on July 4th, you had this long article that I read and I thought was actually very good by Olivia Nuzzi, who I think is a liberal, writing for New York Magazine about the fact that every conversation that she has had since January with activists, officials, donors within the Democratic Party orbit, all of this has led her to one conclusion, which is that everyone here is involved in a cover-up. | ||
| So you're starting now, not just to see the media just pull a 180-degree turn, you're starting to see the cover-up exposed. | ||
| And the point of this column that I wrote today, they lied to you. | ||
| The point of this column is just to say in as blunt and straightforward a fashion as possible, there have been a lot of lies in American history. | ||
| There have been a lot of lies since the Donald Trump presidency in 2016. | ||
| The Russia collusion delusion, a lot of COVID-19, Anthony Fauci, vaccine-masking-related lies. | ||
| I wouldn't even know where to stop. | ||
| But from my perspective, I actually genuinely honest to God think that this is the single greatest lie and single greatest years long extensive gaslighting operation in the history of the United States. | ||
| Because for years now, those of us on the right who have been pointing out the obvious that Joe Biden is in the throes of a palpable, palpable senescence. | ||
| That he has his mental and physical faculties declining right before our eyes. | ||
| You know, my column two years ago, July 2022, said this. | ||
| I said very clearly there is something very, very clearly wrong with the President of the United States. | ||
| And with some very, very rare exceptions. | ||
| There actually were some very rare intellectually honest, even liberal journalists. | ||
| Michelle Goldberg at the New York Times, David Ignatius at the Washington Post. | ||
| They are very rare. | ||
| The norm, the norm from the media and certainly from the Biden administration, from Jen Psaki and then Kareem Jean-Pierre and from Biden himself, the norm has been to say, Shut up, you are an idiot. | ||
| This is just old Uncle Joe, hardscrabble Joe from Scranton, Pennsylvania. | ||
| He's just doing what he does best. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Are you an ageist? | ||
| Do you harbor bigotry against people who are in their 80s or whatever? | ||
| They basically said that we were kooks and they just shut up and take it. | ||
| And now, in the aftermath of their lie and their gaslighting operation being exposed before the world last Thursday night, now they are forced, they are forced to either admit the obvious, which is what Olivia Newsy of New York Magazine is doing, Or to just plead ignorance, as you said, and say, oh, we actually didn't know. | ||
| We were kept in the dark. | ||
| But that doesn't work because, as I said, the dam is starting to break. | ||
| You're starting to have these pieces written now by liberal journalists inside the Cordon Sanitaire, where they are basically saying, OK, well, you know what? | ||
| Now it's fair game to get it out there. | ||
| And it just stinks to high heaven, Benjamin. | ||
| I don't really know how to say it. | ||
| It stinks to high heaven because this is the fate of the United States of America that | ||
| these people are playing with fire with. | ||
| We are not talking about here the fate of a small state like Delaware, Joe Biden's home | ||
| state. | ||
| We are talking about the fate of the greatest country in the world, a country that once | ||
| upon a time commanded a presence on the world stage. | ||
| And now during this presidency with this clearly addlebrained octogenarian president, you've | ||
| seen Hamas go into Israel. | ||
| You've seen obviously Russia, the Ukraine situation. | ||
| Looks like Xi Jinping is probably going to take Taiwan any day now at this point, if | ||
| I had to guess. | ||
| Where does it stop? | ||
| I mean, our enemies know that they are dealing with a corpse in the White House. | ||
| And I guess I'll end on this note. | ||
| The media does all this, perhaps most ironically, Benjamin. | ||
| They do it in the name of our democracy. | ||
| Because there is nothing more democratic than hiding from the American people your job as the fourth estate to actually present an authentic picture of the commander-in-chief. | ||
| Because there's nothing more democratic, I guess, than hiding from the American people who is actually running the country. | ||
| Because Lord knows it's not Joe Biden. | ||
| I've said all along, I think it's Barack Obama personally, but we don't know who it is. | ||
| The Washington Post tagline is, democracy dies in darkness. | ||
| They put that in there in February 2017, a couple of weeks after Trump was sworn in. | ||
| Democracy dies in darkness. | ||
| Well, how about the fact that the republic dies in darkness when we don't even know who | ||
| has his hands on the nuclear football? | ||
| So it's just appalling and disgusting stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you have Wapos, democracy dies in darkness. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| Because they knew and they've been lying as well, just like everyone else. | ||
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How about this WaPo? | |
| Democracy dies in darkness, credibility dies in the Washington Post. | ||
| How about that as a new tagline for them? | ||
| Because they, you know, I didn't see how you just take the moral high ground Your democracy dies in darkness, high ground, and deliberately keep the American people in the dark with regards to Joe Biden's mental state. | ||
| Again, hypocrisy. | ||
| Denver, I wonder if you'd very kindly just play while I'm talking to Josh, the clip that you have about Joe Biden. | ||
| If you have that. | ||
| Do you have that? | ||
| They don't have that. | ||
| Okay, they don't have it. | ||
| Okay, it's Joe Biden basically saying he's the first, let me pull this up, saying that he's the first. | ||
| Yeah, you got it. | ||
| Joe Biden here saying that he's the first black woman to serve with a black president. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Joe Biden saying that he's the first black woman to serve with a black President. | ||
| How do you even make that kind of mistake? | ||
| Every single adjective is wrong there, right? | ||
| And every single adjective, every single noun in that is wrong. | ||
| He's the first black woman to serve with a black President. | ||
| Look, it's America, right? | ||
| In America, you can be whatever you want to be. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But that is someone who has basically zero correlation with reality. | ||
| This is the guy with the nuclear football. | ||
| This is the guy with the hand, his finger on the button. | ||
| And this is the guy that the White House, Jean-Pierre And all the commentators, Morning Psycho and all the Morning Meeker, all the commentators have been telling us day after day, it's absolutely compismentous. | ||
| And as you say, it's been a lie. | ||
| It is a lie. | ||
| It's been a lie. | ||
| And it is gaslighting. | ||
| At this stage, it's gaslighting. | ||
| Josh, we've got a break in two minutes. | ||
| I'd be very grateful if you just Stay on just for a moment until after the break. | ||
| I want to ask you a question, because there are diverging opinions on this one. | ||
| We'll get your answer after the break. | ||
| I believe, not everyone does, I believe that whoever was responsible for pushing within the Democratic Party, for pushing the debate so early, did unprecedentedly early, did so Because they knew that Joe wasn't going to be able to handle it, to cope. | ||
| And they pushed that as a means to get rid of him, to get him out. | ||
| Not everyone thinks that. | ||
| Some people think it was like an accident or coincidence. | ||
| I think it was definitely organized by someone very close to power, obviously, either in the DNC or perhaps In the direction of the Vice President? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I'd like to know, if you could, in a minute before the break, what do you think about this? | ||
| Do you think that what we're watching now is basically theatre? | ||
| That this has been planned? | ||
| That this debate that we're having right now is to some extent has been planned and forced by somebody for a specific end? | ||
| So I have a lot of friends who think exactly what you just said. | ||
| So after the debate, my phone was inundated with text messages from friends basically saying exactly that, that this is the plan all along. | ||
| You can't convince him to step aside, therefore make him embarrass himself there. | ||
| I'm skeptical for two reasons. | ||
| One is that if you go back, it was actually Joe Biden himself Who put out that video back in April, I think it was, challenging Trump to this debate. | ||
| Now maybe he was forced to do it. | ||
| Maybe they kind of put a gun to his head and did it. | ||
| Okay, that's possible. | ||
| But the more structural problem is that This is very, very difficult to pull off the switcheroo, to actually switch out the horse at the top of the ticket at this point. | ||
| So I actually discussed this on my show, The Josh Hammer Show, this week with Trey Traynor, who was a Republican commissioner on the Federal Election Commission. | ||
| There are campaign finance and legal obstacles that are very difficult at this point. | ||
| Maybe we can pick that up on the other side of the break, actually. | ||
| Yeah, we'll pick that up on the other side of the break. | ||
| And even though, as you say, it is difficult to affect this switcheroo, from the Democratic perspective, it's imperative that they try, because if they go into this election with a guy who's senile, they are going to lose against Donald Trump. | ||
| We'll be back after the break. | ||
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Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Hanwell here at the helm filling in for Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Here with Josh Hammer discussing the web of lies, the institutional web of lies that has | ||
| been covering for a man who is clearly President of the United States, Commander in Chief, | ||
| a man who is clearly no longer in full. | ||
| position of his mental faculties. | ||
| Josh, I was saying before the break, and I'm absolutely convinced of this, absolutely convinced of this, this is theatre, what we're seeing now. | ||
| This is part of a plan. | ||
| On behalf of the Democratic Party is not a party of sentimentality. | ||
| I often liken them on my getter feed to having all the sentimentality as a pack of angry xenomorphs. | ||
| If you know what a xenomorph is, if you don't, Google. | ||
| These are the Democrats, right? | ||
| They're not a sentimental party. | ||
| They know, as Steve would say, as sure as the turning of the earth, that if they presented Joe Biden, as their nominee on the 5th of November against Donald Trump, they will lose. | ||
| They know this, right? | ||
| So as difficult as it is, you've got financial reasons to do with campaign and all those issues, those are secondary. | ||
| For the Democrats, they're secondary. | ||
| And I tell you one of the reasons why, and I'll ask for your reaction to this, right? | ||
| One of the reasons that you can detect, I think, That this is planned, as you said just before the break yourself, against this possibility, because the candidate himself won't stand down. | ||
| It's the fact that you now have key donors. | ||
| I think Abigail Disney this morning said that she's instructing. | ||
| She's not going to donate. | ||
| And you have calls now. | ||
| James Carville, for example, said that Finance donations should be ceased to all politicians in the Democratic Party that are still supporting Joe Biden. | ||
| The fact that they've now put their foot on the money pipe, I think, shows that they're serious. | ||
| They are serious. | ||
| They cannot go into November the 5th with Joe Biden. | ||
| And that's why I think this whole thing was brought forward to June, July, to give them the running time to affect, as you call it, the switcheroo. | ||
| Well, let me just offer one other possible way to look at this, though. | ||
| Because two nights ago at the White House, you had a bunch of Democrat governors who flew in to meet with Joe Biden in person. | ||
| Gavin Newsom flew in from California, Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan, Daniel Malloy from Connecticut, a bunch of governors flew in. | ||
| And if I understand correctly, Kathy Hochul from New York was there. | ||
| Most of the big Democrat governors were there at the White House two nights ago to meet with the president face-to-face. | ||
| Most of the rest of them Zoomed in. | ||
| And while there were some hostile, not hostile, while there were some inquisitive questions, probing questions asked of the president about his mental and physical condition, after that meeting was over, you had this conference outside where the Democratic governors basically stood up, ducks lined in a row, and said, we're with the president, he is running, which is a very different message than we're starting to get from some House Democrats. | ||
| There have not been two House Democrats who have come out and say, get this guy out. | ||
| And we know that there's far more than two that think that. | ||
| You're even starting to see within the Democratic elected official class something of a divide between the governors and the congressmen. | ||
| Now, the more cynical approach, and when we talk about Democratic politics, typically the more cynical, the more accurate, the better. | ||
| The more cynical view as to what the Democratic governors are doing is they want Joe Biden to stay there so that Kamala Harris does not go in and then become the presumptive nominee in 2028 after she loses in 2024. | ||
| So you want Gavin Newsom and Kathy Hochul and Gretchen Whitmer to basically throw Joe Biden to the wolves | ||
| and therefore leave 2028 open. | ||
| I think that's basically the calculus there. | ||
| It's deeply cynical, but they're still doing it. | ||
| They're still playing along right now. | ||
| Now to your point, yes, you've had some major donors there. | ||
| I saw the Disney thing. | ||
| You have, what's the name, Reid Hoffman, the Netflix co-founder, | ||
| who's also calling for Biden's step aside. | ||
| So you have some major donor pressure right now, but a week after what happened, it's still not unanimous. | ||
| I would have expected it to be even more unanimous at this point. | ||
| They're really running out of time. | ||
| I mean, Democrats don't play by the rules, they don't really care about the law, they act, you know, they shoot, they ask questions later. | ||
| But the closer and closer we get to their convention, you know, every state has their ballot deadline, the campaign finance issue, who gets the money, does it go back to the DNC, does it revert to the donors? | ||
| I just don't know. | ||
| So I'm not as convinced that it's purely theater, but I do think that it is a viable and highly plausible theory. | ||
| I just want to, in the four or so, three or four minutes we've got left with you, because I know you're going to bounce, I just want to mention this point, this observation. | ||
| It has been somewhat ironic, I think, and badly thought through on behalf of the First Family, that they were pushing out to the press quite heavily, that they were dissatisfied with Biden's advisers. | ||
| And I'll tell you why I think it's fundamentally counterproductive. | ||
| Because the takeaway of the debate is that Biden is not in possession of himself, of his awareness, of his situational awareness. | ||
| And the suggestion is, therefore, that if he's not running the White House, Who is, and the family have come in, Jill, Hunter especially, have now come in. | ||
| They've been pushing out the press. | ||
| It's all the fault of the advisers for pushing Biden too much when they should have given him a bit of a break. | ||
| I think, this is why I think it's an own goal, that particular line. | ||
| They're basically affirming the principle position, the position in making that argument. | ||
| They are affirming the veracity of the most substantial argument against the continuation of Joe Biden's presidency, that he doesn't have the force of will to act in what he thinks, as he's the guy who's been elected by the American public. | ||
| He hasn't got the force of will to resist against his advisors and those around him. | ||
| And they've basically confirmed Yeah, I mean, that all does make sense to me. | ||
| I mean, look, there are not enough bad things that you can possibly say about Jill Biden right now. | ||
| the week-long Camp David prep before the debate. | ||
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| Yeah, I mean, that all does make sense to me. | ||
| I mean, look, there are not enough bad things that you can possibly say about Jill Biden right now. | ||
| You know, so-called Dr. Jill Biden. | ||
| What a wretched harridan. | ||
| I mean, what an absolute abominable human being we are dealing with here. | ||
| I mean, I cannot possibly say enough terrible things about Jill Biden specifically. | ||
| And the reason that I am being so harsh on her is because she is obviously the reason that not just the Democratic Party, because I frankly couldn't care less about them, but she is obviously the reason that the country is in this state in the first place. | ||
| Joe Biden, I mean, call her Lady Macbeth, I guess, if you will. | ||
| I don't know what exactly it is. | ||
| I guess just the reins of power are just that intoxicating. | ||
| But she obviously, palpably, is the one who has been encouraging Joe Biden all along to not step down. | ||
| She is obviously the one who has been pushing him over this past week. | ||
| Joe, put on the blinders. | ||
| Ignore the New York Times. | ||
| Ignore the Washington Post. | ||
| Ignore all the skeptics. | ||
| Just keep on doing you, Joe. | ||
| Just stay in there. | ||
| I don't claim to know what she wants, like I said. | ||
| I suspect that it's just power being intoxicated in the same way that power has been intoxicating for men who govern other men for thousands and thousands of years. | ||
| But if you don't have any patriotism, Jill, in your body, which you probably don't, Surely you at least care about your husband. | ||
| I mean, how can a wife actually go to sleep at night after throwing her husband out to the wolves like that and humiliating himself in front of the entire world? | ||
| It's just, it's unconscionable. | ||
| As a recently married man myself, I could never think about putting my life partner in that position. | ||
| Horrible stuff. | ||
| Well look, I don't know. | ||
| Lady McBiden. | ||
| OK, right. | ||
| In addition to all the arguments you've just raised against her, these people, their whole shtick is supposed to be that Donald Trump represents an existential threat to the democracy and the law and order of the United States and around the world. | ||
| This has been their shtick since he descended down the Golden Escalator. | ||
| And yet it is more important for Lady McBiden And Hunter, it is more important for them, and in Hunter's case it probably is more important, on an almost existential level, that his father does remain in the White House. | ||
| But he is going to lose. | ||
| Joe Biden is going to lose against Donald Trump. | ||
| And it is interesting that against all the propaganda that Donald Trump is so bad, you know, he's a dictator and all the rest of it. | ||
| That they're still going to run a guy against him that they know will lose and let in what they claim to be the worst possible fate for the United States. | ||
| I think it just exposes, as you said in your article, the lies behind the whole regime. | ||
| Josh Hammer, thanks very much for coming on the show today. | ||
| How can people stay in touch up to date with your great writing? | ||
| Yeah, thanks so much for having me. | ||
| So I host two shows, The Josh Hammer Show and America on Trial with Josh Hammer, which are both available everywhere you get your podcasts. | ||
| I write a weekly syndicated column that goes up in Newsweek and a bunch of other right-of-center websites. | ||
| And then I'm on Twitter, X, whatever we're calling it these days, at Josh underscore Hammer, and also on Instagram at Josh B Hammer as well. | ||
| Josh, thanks, man. | ||
| Thanks very much for coming on the show. | ||
| Take care. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I just want to take a quick moment now. | ||
| I was talking to Grace Chong last night, Warren, CFO, and to Cameron again yesterday about the live chat. | ||
| And I just want to give a shout out to all the great folks who follow the War Room on the live chat. | ||
| Get ready with your heart emojis, folks. | ||
| Sometimes on the Getter account, the War Room Getter, I will just tap in a quick hello to the posse. | ||
| But principally you've got shout out to the live chat on War Room on Getter, to the channel on rumble to the telegram rumble telegram channel i don't really understand telegram so much but and to the rav right great everyone's always telling me how great the live chat is on those four so right get ready with your heart emojis i want to say this love you guys thanks very much for your support okay that's supposed to be a heart oh right that's the that's graphics for you right um | ||
| We have Ben Birkram live from the Palace of Westminster, which we can see there in the background. | ||
| Ben, welcome to the War Room today from London. | ||
| What are your first takeaways from this historic day and the huge victory for Nigel Farage and the Reform UK movement that he started? | ||
| Well, it's great to be with you, Ben. | ||
| This is the first time I've ever been in England celebrating Independence Day, America's Independence Day. | ||
| There is a lot to talk about, a lot of connections between what we celebrate in America, what we fought for in America, the liberties that we fought for, and now what we see being destroyed around the world. | ||
| And really, what you have happening in England, as we celebrate our independence and we fight to save liberty in America, we're seeing that destroyed from within by the enemies that our founders warned us about. | ||
| The same thing is happening in England. | ||
| It's the same enemies within. | ||
| And the last beachhead, if you will, that last hope for England right now is Nigel Farage, | ||
| is the Reform Party. | ||
| And a huge win for Nigel yesterday. | ||
| I was there with him at the watch party. | ||
| We were there until five in the morning this morning. | ||
| Then we drove from Clacton-on-Sea over here to London. | ||
| So we're running on very few hours of sleep. | ||
| Raheem Kassam is with me. | ||
| He had to break away for a few minutes, but got the first exclusive interview with Nigel | ||
| So big things coming. | ||
| One thing to consider, it's only four. | ||
| They only have four seats. | ||
| Now they're still fighting for one other in Essex. | ||
| But what's crazy about this, Ben, is the The results, the numbers that came out of this, when you compare the Labour Party, who received 34% of the overall vote, but now have 64% of the actual seats, compared to Reform, which received 14% of the overall vote, and only received less than 1% of the seats. | ||
| It's clearly a place for proportional representation. | ||
| There's a lot to talk about there. | ||
| But it's just, it's an amazing time to be here. | ||
| And the connections between America are very, very stark. | ||
| Stand by, we'll be back in 90 seconds after this quick break. | ||
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| Welcome back on the show. | ||
| Let's go quickly live to Ben Birkram in London, outside the British Houses of Parliament. | ||
| Ben, you've got about three or four minutes now. | ||
| Can you just sort of... Three minutes. | ||
| Can you just tell me, from your perspective here in the campaign, talking to people out there, how strong is the emotional connection now between the British people and Nigel Farage? | ||
| And is the underlying... | ||
| which is present everywhere, the underlying issue against immigration that you're seeing in the United States. | ||
| Is this a big part of what we saw in the UK yesterday at the general election? Is it part of | ||
| the same movement that we're talking about every day? | ||
| Yeah, first off, the vote yesterday wasn't a referendum in favor of Labour. | ||
| It was really a referendum against the Conservatives, the Tories. | ||
| And if there was any clear victor outside of the Labour Party, which I think is going to defeat itself in the end, it was Nigel Farage and the Reform Party. | ||
| And this is this railhead, this beachhead, whatever you want to call it, is that first step in a five-year plan that they have. | ||
| And there's no question about it. | ||
| The general average population in England are sick of politics as a whole. | ||
| They were sick of the Conservatives. | ||
| They were sick of the Labour. | ||
| And now Nigel is showing that third option for the people. | ||
| So that's yet to be seen, but they're in development. | ||
| Big things are coming from the Nigel team, from the Reform team. | ||
| And yes, it all goes back to illegal immigration, the dismal failure that the Tories did when it comes to both illegal immigration and legal immigration, inviting in over 2 million legal immigrants to take the jobs of the English people. | ||
| The English people were sick of it. | ||
| Now, what's sad is it's going to get worse under the Labour government, which, again, becomes an opportunity for reform and Nigel. | ||
| Bottom line, though, in all of this is it all connects back. | ||
| We're heading to France tomorrow. | ||
| We're going to be covering the elections there as the pendulum swings back to Le Pen and the conservatives, the national populists over there. | ||
| It's the same thing we're seeing in America. | ||
| And ultimately, it comes down to the people of every one of these countries. | ||
| Will we be free countries or will we be countries run by tyrants who want to destroy us from within? | ||
| That's the battle that every country faces right now. | ||
| And it is. | ||
| As we cover illegal immigration in America, it is the number one issue. | ||
| Ben, thanks very much. | ||
| I know exactly where you're standing, because I used to work at the House of Commons 25 or so years ago. | ||
| That's why they're trying to tear down Nigel Farage. | ||
| That's why they have our very own Steve Bannon locked up as a political prisoner right now. | ||
| It's all connected. | ||
| And it's up to this generation in particular, this year of voters, to save the nations of | ||
| the world. | ||
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Ben, thanks very much. | |
| I know exactly where you're standing. | ||
| I used to work at the House of Commons 25 or so years ago. | ||
| You're standing to your left is Westminster Abbey, right? | ||
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| That's right. | ||
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Beautiful building. | |
| Beautiful, beautiful historic building. | ||
| The emotional heart of Christianity in the UK. | ||
| Ben, thanks so much for coming today. | ||
| I won't keep you. | ||
| I know you've got to prepare your travels. | ||
| Bon voyage, as they say in France, in your journey tomorrow. | ||
| And we'll catch up with you tomorrow from France. | ||
| Ben, thanks so much. | ||
| Sounds good. | ||
| Thanks, Ben. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| I just want to make a quick mention to PublicSquare.com, which is one of these great websites where patriots can go to buy their food, clothing, stuff for the house, and all the rest of it. | ||
| It's similar to Amazon, but you might prefer to stop giving your money to people who hate you. | ||
| A similar site that I very strongly recommend is MyStore.com. | ||
| Good morning Ben. | ||
| which has a similar mission launched by Mike Lindell. Mike good morning to you. Good morning | ||
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Ben. How are you doing today. I'm doing great. | |
| I got on here. | ||
| Yeah, you mentioned mystore.com. | ||
| Steve always mentioned it when he was on. | ||
| That's my platform for USA made products and entrepreneurs. | ||
| It gives them a safe place to go there where they're not copied by China and lost up on Amazon. | ||
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| The Premium MyPillows, the King or Queen, you guys have all responded. | ||
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| Get you a pair of those. | ||
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| But they call my, we have at home reps, moms and dads working from home. | ||
| There it is, 800-873-1062. | ||
| They love the support of the Water Room Posse. | ||
| And I want to say one more thing, Ben. | ||
| If anybody wants to find out what's going on, remember, I'm out to secure our election platforms for our great. | ||
| real president this fall and we've been working on over 300,000 people on the | ||
| ground in all in all 3,143 counties. You can check all that out at Lyndellplan.com | ||
| everybody find out what's going on even in your own county find out what's going | ||
| on in your own county so you can check but thanks for the support and it's been | ||
| it's been great. Mike thanks very much for coming on the show today we'll catch | ||
| you tomorrow. | ||
| Thanks, Mike. | ||
| Mypillow.com, mystore.com, publicsquare.com and birchgold.com. | ||
| Quickly, I'd like to say I will join you tomorrow. | ||
| Posse will have been Birkram and Rahim from France. | ||
| This is a historic day today. | ||
| A new political party in the UK has taken, I think, some 14.5% nationally, led by the great Nigel Farage, this news just coming in, Archbishop Viganò has been excommunicated. | ||
| We'll be breaking that by the Vatican, by Pope Francis. | ||
| We'll be breaking that down tomorrow and what that might mean for the future of the Catholic Church. | ||
| So stand by for Charlie Kirk who's coming in at 12 o'clock. | ||
| My thanks to Cameron Wallace, producer of The War Room. | ||
| Say a prayer to Steve Bannon who's in prison and I'll catch you tomorrow. |
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