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June 28, 2024 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 3719: Corrupt Regime Switching Out Their Puppet

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jim rickards

07:05

steve bannon

18:47

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03:25

julie kelly

04:56

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
		Pray for our enemies.
		Because we're going medieval on these people.
		You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
		War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Batt Friday, 28 June, Year of the Lord 2024, 110th anniversary of the What kicked off in Sarajevo by Serbian nationalists kicked off a crisis of the 20th century from August 1914 until 1989, the short 20th century, the bloodiest century in mankind's history, World War I, World War II, all of it, Cold War, then ended with the Berlin Wall and Tiananmen Square.
		The morning after this country right now is a national security crisis.
		We certainly don't have a commander-in-chief who proved on the world stage last night that he is not with the program.
		We have a very serious problem far beyond politics.
		We have a national security crisis that's going to lead very quickly to a constitutional crisis about the 25th amendment.
		President Trump is a national hero for agreeing to all that and allowing that to happen last night and let the world see it.
		Once again, playing 3D chess, 5D chess.
		I want to go, Jeff Clark, another monumental day today.
		Fisher overturned and we've got the Chevron deference.
		Give me a couple of minutes.
		You're an expert on this.
		In fact, that's why you joined the administration, President Trump's first term.
		Talk to me about it.
unidentified		Sure, Steve.
		So look, this is huge.
		In this case, Loper Bright consolidated with the Relentless case, both of which challenged this rule from the National Marine Fisheries Service, which is part of the Commerce Department.
		The whole Chevron deference doctrine, which goes back to the mid-80s, And is the linchpin of the administrative state because it not only allows Congress to punt to agencies to decide questions of law, stripping them away from the courts and the courts are the ones who are supposed to decide all questions of law.
		It even allows those delegations to happen when Congress says nothing, when it's silent.
		It's a remarkable Uh, violation of the separation of powers by just handing off authority from the, uh, judicial branch that should be used to decide all cases and controversies and handing it to the executive branch because they wanted to create this fourth branch of government with a group of experts who would lord it over and rule over the American people on the theory that they had expertise that ordinary people didn't have.
		And the Supreme Court wiped that away today, six to three.
		And it has two components, basically, both of which are very elementary.
		One is that going back to Marbury versus Madison, This is Chief Justice Marshall writing there.
		He said it is emphatically the province and duty of the Judicial Department to say what the law is.
		That doesn't mean make the law.
		That means to pronounce like, well, what effect does it have in a particular case?
		Well, the Chevron doctrine is totally contrary to that.
		It has an agency deciding what the law says in the first instance, not the courts.
		The courts are only a backstop under Chevron.
		So now that's gone.
		And the second principle of law violated was a statutory instruction from Congress itself.
		In the overarching Administrative Procedures Act, which was passed in 1946, Congress directed the courts to construe all legal provisions, constitutional, statutory, regulatory, and issue in any challenge to agency or department action.
		And the Chevron doctrine again is totally contrary to that because it again would have agencies rule first over courts and only if they egregiously err to have the courts step in.
		And overrule that.
		So, Steve, this is a big victory for liberty.
		It's a victory for constitution separation of powers and for the text of the APA.
		And the last thing I would say is, look, if we were result-oriented types with a potential new Trump administration coming in, we'd want to have this tool of deference so we could get deference to sensible regulations.
		But we're the ones who believe in the rule of law, Steve.
		So even though this decision might leave some courts You know, with a new tool to go after Trump administration regulations, we still think that it's the right outcome because we believe in the Constitution.
		Oh no.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the way that you do the linchpin of taking apart the administrative state.
		Paul Sperry is going to join us in a moment to talk about the deep state part of the administrative state, but this is the way you go after them.
		This is the way you start to deconstruct it.
		Social media website, Clark, where do we go?
unidentified		Sure, so on Getter and X, I'm at JeffClarkUS, and at Real Truth Social, I'm at RealJeffClark.
		And we are the Center for Renewing America.
		Thank you, brother.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You guys are amazing.
		Pay a letter, vote, Clark, all of them.
		Incredible.
		Thank you, sir.
		Like I said, this is a Sarajevo moment.
		We are in a national security crisis that it will lead quickly to a constitutional crisis.
		What actually Scott Jennings is absolutely correct.
		What goes on day by day, moment by moment in the White House.
		What's really and who's really in charge.
		Paul Sperry is going to join us in a minute.
		You're gonna see about how the deep state rolls.
		Right up in your grill.
		And that is playing out here.
		Remember, I said, this is the way the Praetorian Guard, this is why Newsom was highlighted last night, and Newsom stepped into the breach with saying, you know, he had Biden's back, he had Biden's back, he had Biden's back.
		This is what they did.
		They looked for that general that was the one that they wanted to change, but it looked like people could say, well, you weren't disloyal.
		It wasn't an exact coup.
		Liz Harrington, your piece, you're pretty blunt, and you've been a senior vice president.
		You said he walked into a trap.
		Walk me through that, ma'am.
unidentified		Sure, Steve.
		First of all, I want to just say, thank God for President Trump.
		It was beneath him to even share a stage with that husk of what's left of a man that the Praetorian Guard, as you correctly stated, has been propping up for over four years now.
		And then suddenly last night, they let go.
		Because this was not a debate.
		It was a setup for Joe Biden.
		It was a setup to let him fall.
		Who agrees to let him debate in June?
		It's unheard of.
		It would never happen.
		They wanted him to fail.
		And what happened last night, nothing was real on that stage except Donald J. Trump.
		And it illustrates more than ever why we need him back.
		Because everything will be choreographed.
		Everything will be corrupt.
		Everything will be a lie, but for President Trump.
		He selflessly went there last night, Steve, and debated.
		You can't even call it a debate.
		Exactly.
		this sick, demented man, but it's not about Joe Biden.
		It's not about defeating Joe Biden.
		President Trump already defeated Joe Biden.
		He's already beaten him.
		It's about feeding the people behind him.
		What we saw last night was the puppet masters switching out their puppet.
		That's all we saw.
		We have to defeat the puppet masters.
		We have to defeat this corrupt regime.
		These Supreme Court rulings are a good step in that direction by the grace of God.
		We have a chance to still save this republic.
		Thank God for Trump, but don't believe the fake news media who've been lying to you about Biden for four years and then suddenly they're going to tell the truth?
		No.
		There's another agenda going on.
		We are not fools and we're going to be committed to saving this country.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Van Jones and David Axelrod had the transition right there and Scott Jennings in a profile on Courage called it out live on national TV for exactly what it said.
		I don't want to hear about the politics and who's going to run and what you're going to do.
		Tell me about what's happening in the White House today.
		We have a crisis.
		We have a crisis.
		Liz, where do people go?
		Grace and Mo, let's push this out.
		It's up on War Room right now.
		Where do people go on social media to follow you, ma'am, now more than ever?
unidentified		Warroom.org, Twitter, I'm at RealLizUSA, true social at RealLizUSA.
		This guy's been tripping up Air Force One for over three years.
		Nothing has changed except the talking points, and that's exactly what happened last night, and we're not going to be fooled.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Amen, ma'am.
		Thank you very much.
		You want to know what kind of crisis we're in?
		You want to know about the Praetorian Guard?
		Paul Sperry at RealColor Investigations, also with the New York Post.
		Paul, walk me through, you've put up one of the most blockbuster stories and investigations I've seen in recent years, and you tie together the Clapper, 1620, and brother, it's up in our face right now in 2024.
		Walk our audience through what your investigation has unearthed.
unidentified		Yeah, thanks for having me, Steve.
		James Clapper, yeah, Mr. October Surprise.
		So Clapper not only manufactured fake Russian intelligence to help Biden before his first debate with Trump, but he also manufactured fake Russian intel to help Hillary before her first debate with Trump.
		And sure enough, she uses it to attack Trump in that debate that was in St.
		Louis.
		Tarnished him as a Russian agent and a Putin stooge.
		So, in effect, both presidential debates, 2016-2020, were rigged against Trump by intelligence operatives.
		That's a possible harbinger of things to come in 2024.
		It remains to be seen if they'll try to run another influence op against Trump, especially now after Biden's disastrous performance last night.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me, hang on, that's why you're so important today on the show.
		I mean, Scott Jennings quoted on CNN, we have a national security crisis upon us right now.
		Those intelligence apparatuses and the people in there know this.
		This is my point.
		The cover-up on, first off, what is exactly happening with an infirm, that guy last night can't be commander-in-chief.
		He can't have the combatant commanders report to him, particularly with the beginning, early stages of the kinetic part of the Third World War in the South China Sea, in the Straits of Taiwan, in Gaza, in the Red Sea, in Eastern Ukraine.
		It's just, it's not possible.
		So this scandal, you talk about 16 and 20, we have a crisis right now and the people you finger are part of it, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, also a potential 9-11 encore attack on the homeland.
		I mean, he's already let in ISIS cells, Al-Qaeda cells.
		We need to get down on our hands and knees and pray that he's not the Commander-in-Chief if we get hit again like 9-11 right now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Paul, you're the lead investigator in this area, but correct me if I'm wrong.
		In a true constitutional government, don't we have oversight of all this?
		Don't we have a House and Senate Intelligence Committee?
		Even if these people are deep state, don't we have an institutional structure to not allow this to happen?
		And why, then, does it continue to happen, sir?
unidentified		Well, because they got away with it.
		You know, they were saying that this was, you know, and then, you know, Clapper in 2020, you know, he did the same thing for Biden just three days before that 2020 debate between Trump and Biden in Nashville, when he issued the fake intel to discredit the Hunter Biden laptop scandal.
		And we now know from emails that he helped draft the letter and even wrote the key language.
		This is Clapper, the phrase about how It has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.
		That was all Clapper.
		And, you know, the media picked up on that.
		That's what they seized on.
		And, you know, they hyped that.
		But, of course, there was no Russian information op.
		It was really an influence operation by Clapper and the CIA.
		They were the ones interfering in the election, not the Russians, which is outrageous.
		And, you know, it wasn't foreign intelligence services.
		It was our own domestic intelligence services.
		Who were interfering did the skullduggery.
		And no one's paid the price for what they did in 2016.
		So they felt they were free to do it again in 2020 and no one's paid the price for that either.
		And you can bet they'll try it again in 2024 in some capacity and beyond.
		And, you know, until we're a full-blown banana republic.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Paul Sperry, where do people go to get your writings and investigation?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What's your social media?
unidentified		On X, I'm at Paul Sperry with an underscore.
		Paul, S-P-E-R-R-Y with an underscore.
		Go to RealClearInvestigations.com.
		All the details and documents from this story are up on the news site, RCI, including interviews with senior intelligence officials.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's a blockbuster story.
		Let's push it out hard today, Warren Posse.
		Paul Sperry, thank you so much.
		Honored to have you on here.
unidentified		My pleasure.
unidentified		Anytime.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, brother.
		This is how they roll.
		Make sure you read Paul Sperry's.
		That's Grace and Mo and Carly and Elizabeth and everybody.
		Push it out.
		All the War and Posse.
		Push this out.
		Read it.
		And cut to the links.
		You've got to go to the links in this.
		Because this is what we're up against.
		This is the Praetorian Guard that's making moves right now.
		Nancy Pelosi.
		Remember Charlie Spearing.
		She's the key that picks the lock.
unidentified		She's coming in, I don't know if hard for Biden, but she's got his back.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So we have two tracks here, right here.
		By the way, Nancy Pelosi, of course, she put out, Jake Sherman's quoting her, she hadn't talked to the president.
		So she gives some happy talk.
		Oh, he's got his back.
		He's going to have a thing in North Carolina, going to do this.
		That's, that's not, that's a misdirection play.
		They're feverishly working behind the scenes, and we have two issues going here.
		One, we have a national security crisis, exactly like Scott Jennings laid it out.
		What's going on in the White House every day?
		What is this guy doing?
		Who's supervising it?
		Who are making decisions?
		Then we have to talk about the cover-up of the media.
		Every one of these media organizations knew this.
		Last night, that shock look.
		On MSNBC and by CNN you see Dana Bash and fake Jake Tapper.
		They understand that eventually that's going to get to them.
		CNN, you're revolting.
		You've known about this.
		And then to have the whole pre-baked David Axelrod and Van Jones with the knitted, you know, the knitted bra.
		Joe Biden's done such a good judgment.
		So Patriot.
		And morning Joe.
		Dude, we got, we got the receipts.
		We saw what you just said about Biden a couple of weeks ago.
		You people are revolting.
		You've jeopardized this nation.
		We have a national security issue that's going to hurdle towards a 25th Amendment constitutional issue.
		That's on the good of the country.
		That's why Trump did the debate.
		He said, OK, fine.
		In June, OK, fine.
		Rules, you're going to take.
		OK, no audience.
		Cut my mic off.
		You know, let him have two bathroom breaks because he can't stand up for nine minutes.
		Fine.
		Done.
		Let's roll.
		Trump did that for the country.
		That shows you why Trump's different than politicians.
		He's a leader.
		That's what leaders do.
		The other part is the politics and they're going to go through the search for their, you know, they're going to, you know, appropriately, how you get rid of Biden and how they do a transition.
		He's honored as the greatest living American.
		Then the search for the Messiah, right?
		Or the team Messiah of which, you know, to save them from orange man bad in the, in the mag of this audience, because you're a bunch of, uh, uh, you know, misogynist, racist, nativist, xenophobic, homophobic, all of it.
		Save them, and then it's going to be the honeymoon.
		You're going to see a media firestorm like you ain't never seen before in your entire life.
		You wait for it.
		Because as I said last night, Trump was magnificent.
		First hour magnificent.
		Until the questionnaires devolved into kind of side pockets and weird questions.
		President Trump was magnificent.
		Statesman-like, powerful, leader.
		Someone in the world, you can understand why.
		You can understand last night why Putin never took him on, why she didn't want to take him on, why the Mullahs didn't take him on.
		He gave us peace and prosperity.
		You saw last night, they ain't taking that on.
		They don't want any piece of that.
		They do not want any piece of that.
		And you saw what was next to him?
		A scandal and a crisis unlike we've ever seen.
		You gotta go back to Wilson.
	Even FDR.
	Even FDR was never in this bad of shape towards the end.
	Never, ever, ever.
	You gotta go back to Wilson.
	And hey, in Wilson, we didn't have the type of weapon systems we got today.
	Jim Rickards, you're a very wise man, sir.
	You've seen a lot, you've gone through a lot, you've done a lot.
	Give our audience your assessment of what you saw last night, sir.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Steve, your guests have covered the debate pretty thoroughly and we all know about Biden.
		I didn't see anything in Biden last night that I wouldn't have said four years ago.
		Uh, you know, 2020, the basement strategy, his rallies, 10 cars at a drive-in movie flashing their lights.
		I would have said he was in cognitive decline, suffering some stage of dementia, etc.
		Now, the problem with dementia is it's a progressive disease.
		It's sad.
		It's the best way to put it.
		It's a progressive disease.
		It gets worse.
		You can't cure it.
		By the way, obviously they pumped him up, but if you look at Biden in any recent videos, his eyes are slits.
		It's almost like that robot gourd in The Day the Earth Stood Still.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		But last night, his eyes were bugging out.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the effect of the medication.
		They weren't even... You know, the greatest communications theorist, maybe of all time, Marshall McLuhan in the 1960s, he said, the medium is the message.
		A lot of people know that phrase, but they don't know what it means.
		And what McLuhan meant was that every medium we get, we process it a certain way, it engages our mind, you know, as I say, in a certain way.
		And so television is what he called a cold medium, which is, it requires a lot of engagement to understand what's going on.
		But his point was, nobody listens to TV.
		I mean, we say we do, and we can take a test and get a few things right, but basically people don't listen to TV.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		They watch TV.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		They look at the person on the screen and they say, Is this person honest?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Is this person shooting straight?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Or are they making things up?
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Are they sharp?
		Are they dull?
		Are they not?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Etc.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		So if you want to scare yourself, watch the replay of the debate with the sound off, as they say in Hollywood, MOS, Mid-Alt Sound, you know?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		That's ten times scarier.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		But that's what people actually saw.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		So the physical visual, I would say the visual aspect of it, the acoustic aspect of it, was much scarier than anything
		Biden said.
		I want to give some credit to Trump.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		He was more than good.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		He was like a ninja.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		For example, there was a question on immigration and the border.
		Okay, you expect that.
		And Trump said what he had to say about 8 million or however many million people coming across.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		But he pivoted in real time.
		It was a real ninja move to talk about, he said, well, the illegal aliens are taking the jobs, but they're taking the jobs from the blacks and the Hispanics, from the African-Americans and the Hispanics.
		So he pivoted from immigration to the fact that African-Americans and Hispanics are moving heavily in Trump's column.
		So that was a real That was a real pro move.
		He got in a couple of zingers.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		He called him Brandon at one point.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it kind of came and went.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Maybe people don't know what that means, but a lot of people do.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		He called him the Manchurian candidate.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Again, he just was sliding these things in there.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Now, you can get bogged down with, you know, Hunter Biden and the laptop and communist Chinese bribes and the Biden crime family and LLCs and money laundering.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		But you can spend hours on it and you lose the audience.
		But just saying Manchurian candidates, like, hey, you're working for the communists.
		I mean, that was so Trump was, you know, as much as we can say that Biden's done done in the minds of voters, he may still be running for president.
		But but Trump was really, really sharp.
		And I kind of want to give him give him credit for that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, it's huge.
		It's huge.
		What's the implications, national security, capital markets, of what the reality is?
		About what's the actuality?
		It's one thing on the political side, they're going to try to change him out, obviously.
		But more importantly, how do we even get to January 20th for President Trump to take the oath of office, given that we're in the early stages of the kinetic part of the Third World War, sir?
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Well, Third World War could stand in the way.
		By the way, I'm pretty shameless about promoting my own books, but I'll give a shout out to Annie Jacobson, her book Nuclear War.
		Just read it.
		If you haven't read it, pick it up.
		It's a bestseller.
		You won't sleep, but it's a minute-by-minute TikTok of what a nuclear war would actually be like.
		She does a little history on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, etc., but from the time of launch, detecting it, is it a missile or not?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Is it heading our way or not?
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Is it nuclear armed or not?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Who shot it?
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		What should we do?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Shooting up.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		She just goes through and very knowledgeable.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		She talked to She talked to some people who were very involved in the 1950s, and not just Los Alamos, but the nuclear tests throughout the 50s, who are, some of them have died in the meantime, but they're in their late 80s or early 90s, and they've held classified information their whole lives.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		But as they die, they kind of want to get something off their chest.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		She got information that I've never seen before, and great job for her.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		She went to all these places, STRATCOM and so forth.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		But boil it all down, Steve, you have about six minutes to decide.
		That's, you know, by the time you go through all the preliminaries and then, you know, launch your own warning.
		The president has about six minutes.
		One thing I got, I took away from the book is don't wait.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Meaning, you know, in the book, he waits too long to get on Marine One and the helicopter and stuff happens.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Read that book and then take a look at Biden and ask yourself, it's not even like, are you a good president or bad president?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		It's like a mentally, a mental incompetent.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		If Biden were not the president, someone in his family would have gone to court and had a guardian appointed.
		I mean, I don't like saying that, but that's true.
		He's in that mental condition.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on, hang on, slow down, slow down.
		You're a guy, this show's massive, and you're somebody who people really pay attention to.
		I want you to repeat that.
		Are you serious?
		This is not a throwaway line?
		Repeat that if you need.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		No, not at all.
		Look at poor Britney Spears.
		But if Biden were not the president, someone in his family would have gone to a court and had a guardian appointed.
		He's not capable of signing a contract, having a credit card, having a checking account, etc.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		That's what would happen to anyone in that state.
		Look, it's sad.
		The New York Post said it was sad.
		I agree with that.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		And many of us have had some experience with, you know, adult parents, relatives, etc., who have gone through some version of this.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't have to be extreme, but you've seen it and you know what it's like.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		In Biden's case, it is extreme.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		So again, absent the fact that he's on the second floor of the White House, you would have appointed a guardian for him a long time ago.
		Well, what about us?
		What about the American people?
		What about the world?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		You know, when you talk about nuclear war, Stephen, you're right to bring it up.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		This is not some remote thing that was over in 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed, etc.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		It's more dangerous today.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		I would say this is more dangerous than the Cuban Missile Crisis.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		And here's why.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		In the Cuban Missile Crisis, that was everyone's lesson in de-escalation.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Herman Kahn laid out what he called the escalatory ladder, different versions, but it had like 45 steps.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		But he said, nobody wakes up and says, gee, nice day.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		I think I'll start a nuclear war.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		That's not how it happens.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		It happens through escalation.
		Somebody does something provocative.
		The target shoots back.
		The other guy raises the ante.
		So you keep going until somebody feels they're in an existential crisis and they have no choice.
		And they're thinking about using nuclear weapons.
		And the irony is the guy who wasn't thinking about nuclear weapons does, because every
		theorist says there's a first strike advantage.
		Now, if that's the process and that is the process, how do you get out of that?
		At some point, you're supposed to say, you know what, time to deescalate, time to stop,
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		take a beat and then start to go down the ladder.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		That is what happened in the Cuban Missile Crisis.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		By the way, Khrushchev was the first one.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		He had his own problems.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		But Khrushchev reached out to Kennedy through a report, actually, and said, why don't we untie the knot?
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		And JFK said, yeah, let's do that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So, but Biden... Jim, hang on one second.
		We're going to go to commercial break and come back and discuss this.
		This is why on the 110th anniversary of the assassination of the Archduke in Sarajevo, this is so important, then they were inexorably drawn into a global conflict because of this concept of mobilization.
		Mobilization.
		Nobody could stop it.
		It took on a life of its own.
		That's where the escalatory ladder is.
		That's why Joe Biden has to be removed immediately.
		We have a national security crisis that's going to lead to a constitutional crisis.
		Forget the politics of this.
		This is about this nation.
		This is about this nation's citizens.
		It needs to be addressed and needs to be addressed today.
unidentified		Your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Jim Rickards, if you're in the capitals of Beijing, Tehran, and Moscow, what were you thinking last night as you watched this live?
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Well, Russia and China are adversaries in different ways, but they're very different from each other.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Russia plays a deep game.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		China plays a long game.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		So, I don't think they drew any conclusions that they hadn't already drawn, which is that the Democratic Party is in denial.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		It's the media that's in denial.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		The Russians and the Chinese are not in denial.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		They've seen this a long time and now it's illustrated.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		They're probably counting the days to the election.
		But the greatest enemy of the United States is not Russia or China.
		In fact, we should be friends with Russia because we need to double down on China.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		But the greatest enemy of the U.S.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		is the United States.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		You know, I thought your guest, Paul Sperry, did a great job in talking about Clapper's role.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		But I'm not a reporter.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		I'm an analyst.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		But I know these guys.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		I sat in Mike Morrell's office.
		On the seventh floor at Langley when he was deputy director of the CIA across the hall from the director.
		He's really, really smart, but completely political.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		And I worked with a team to develop an artificial intelligence terror detection system that worked better than we expected.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		He shut it down because he thought the PR would be bad.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		This is around the waterboarding time.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Clapper, I was asked by the National Intelligence Council to recruit a team to help with CFIUS.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Syphius Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S., that's the firewall between foreign investors and U.S.
		targets.
		In other words, if you're a foreign investor trying to buy a U.S.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		company, you have to pass the Syphius test.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		I set up a committee to help the government do that, to help the intelligence community do that.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		It worked so well that the Pentagon said, hey, Jim, could you come over to the Pentagon and do the same thing for us?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Clapper shut it down.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, I know General Hayden.
		He had his advice when he was leaving as director of the CIA, because Puerto Gas had failed.
		And Hayden said, my advice to the next guy is come alone.
		And what he meant by that is when you show up for work, don't bring an entourage with you because you're not going to change this place.
unidentified		You might be able to run it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Mike Pompeo told us the same thing.
		It's got to change.
		That's the second term.
		It's got to change.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, how are you going to beat Trump after last night?
		The posse doesn't need any tutoring on lawfare.
		They know what that is.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		We see it every day.
		But the thing about lawfare, it's never over.
		So Judge Marchand, Trump has a sentencing hearing on July 11th.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Judge Marchand has three options.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		He can send Trump to Rikers Island, he can put him under house arrest in Mar-a-Lago, or he can give him a probation with not too many strings attached, which will let him continue the campaign.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		He might be thinking, we ought to send him to Rikers.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is so bad.
		What happened last night was so bad that the question for the Democrats and the lawfare warriors, etc., is basically, how do you stop this guy, you know, short of assassination?
		They might just send them to Rikers, number one.
		Number two, January 6th, 2025, Jamie Raskin is going to use the 14th Amendment, Section 3, to brand Trump as an insurrectionist and say, I think Trump will have an electoral landslide, maybe 330 votes.
		They're going to say the votes don't count because he's an insurrectionist.
		Throw it to the House and you might end up with, you know, Nikki Haley.
		I mean, that happened in 1824 and it happened in 1800.
		They're not going to quit.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That's my point.
		They're not going to quit.
		And I agree with you.
		I think the judge on the 11th, best case is he gives him prison but delay it till after the election with supervision so Trump can go at his good graces to maybe Ohio or Wisconsin.
		They're going to use that.
		That's going to be their pivot point politically.
		That's why we have two There's two trains running here.
		One is national security and the 25th amendment for the good of the country.
		The other is the political of how these demons are going to search for their messiah group and then have a honeymoon period after President Trump's sentence to prison.
		That's going to happen.
		Mersha and these guys are not going to back off.
		This is like the Bolsheviks and In 35.
		Jim, how did they get to strategic intelligence and particularly you're offering up free the the new case for gold?
		So where do folks go because they love your hits here and I want to make sure they're immersed themselves in your information.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thanks, Steve.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		We have a landing page for the posse.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		It's called RickardsWarRoom.com.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		It's RickardsWarRoom.com.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		You go there, you can subscribe to our flagship newsletter, Strategic Intelligence.
		I hope people do.
		We have a free book offer.
		But we have something new.
		We have a, basically, it's an interview I did, a long-form interview on the kind of things we've been talking about, which is, you know, not just the deep state, but lawfare, a substitute for Biden, what's going to happen, you know, on January 6th, 2025, etc.
		So we hope people get a lot out of that video, but it's RickardsWarRoom.com.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's make sure everybody goes there and gets that video.
		Jim Rickards, thank you, brother, for changing your schedule and joining us on The Morning After.
		Thank you.
jim rickards ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What did Rickards say?
		Six minutes?
		Did you see that last night?
		You think that's going to answer up in six minutes?
		You see that?
		That cadaver?
		They put the nation in jeopardy.
		You talk about law firm.
		It's not going to stop until you stop it.
		It's starting to stop because people have had people's backs.
		Julie Kelly joins us right now.
		Julie, tell me about tell me about Fisher.
		What happened?
		The importance of this and what it means going forward, ma'am.
julie kelly ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Steve, for having me on.
		So this is the decision we've all been waiting for, speculating that the court Would do exactly what they did today, which is reverse how the DOJ has abused and intentionally misinterpreted obstruction of an official proceeding, this is 1512 C2, the post-Enron document shredding statute, that Lisa Monaco, Merrick Garland, I want to call these names out, Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, Matthew Graves, these U.S.
		attorneys, have intentionally abused that statute.
		To criminalize political dissent, punish 350-plus J6ers, turning them into lifelong felons for briefly interrupting the events of January 6th.
		It was a 6-3 decision authored by Chief Justice John Roberts.
		Shamefully, Amy Coney Barrett wrote the dissent.
		She joined Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor.
		In dissenting with the majority opinion, shockingly, and some people had speculated this, I didn't believe it.
		Shockingly, Katonji Brown-Jackson joined the majority and wrote a separate, um, a separate, separate concurring opinion.
		So that's how that shook out.
		Um, you know, I'm just being flooded right now with texts and calls from J6ers.
		Some are relieved, some are, Today is a win for justice.
		It's a win for fairness.
		abusive, wrongful prosecution of J6ers with this felony count.
		So, you know, today is a win for justice.
		It's a win for fairness.
		It is a major repudiation of this vengeful, destructive, petty Department of Justice
		and repudiation of the 18 judges on the DC board.
		District and Circuit Court, including Trump appointees, Reagan appointees, of course, Clinton, Obama, etc., who endorsed the DOJ's wrongful prosecution of J6ers by abusing this statute.
		And I will be posting their names shortly.
		We need to make them household names.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to do that.
		How did this happen?
		How did the court overturn the 6-3 with Judge Jackson Brown joining with a separate opinion but joining in the majority?
		We are years into this.
		They're people in federal prisons right now.
		This is just not... You have pointed out Lisa Monaco and Merrick Garland and their crimes and Weissman.
		And Weissman, you're in the middle of this.
		All this coordination to jerry-rig this, to go... But yes, I can understand maybe you have a corrupt DOJ.
		Maybe they try to weaponize it.
		But how did the courts...
		And particularly the most important federal court in the country, the appeals court.
		How did the courts get hoodwinked by Weissman and Lisa Monaco and Graves and particularly Merrick Garland?
		How did that happen?
julie kelly ▲ ● ▼		They wanted to be.
		I mean, they believed they are fully in with the narrative about January 6th.
		They uniformly endorsed the idea that this was some sort of insurrection, a domestic terror attack.
		That any law, now of course they didn't charge people with insurrection or anything close to it, this was really the closest thing that they could cast a wide net and get hundreds of them.
		So the judges were fully in on this.
		Trevor McFadden, Tim Kelly, Gabby Friedrich, the Trump appointees.
		Tim Kelly, Trevor McFadden, Trump appointees, denying release of J6 defendants on this charge alone.
		This charge.
		Keeping them in pre-trial detention.
		Trevor McFadden in the case of Timothy Hale, the obstruction and four misdemeanors.
		He denied his release, kept him in the gulag for 14 months before Tim Hale finally went to trial in May of 2022 and was convicted.
		How dare these judges?
		There was only one, so let's call out the good guy, and this is how we got to the Supreme Court.
		Trump appointee Carl Nichols, the only judge to dismiss this charge against three defendants, including Joseph Fisher, saying this was a misreading of the statute, that you had to prove certain elements, and that's what the court said today.
		Record or document, impairment or tampering.
		None of that happened with these J6s, but these judges didn't care.
		The Democrat judges wanted to go along with whatever the DOJ was doing.
		The Republican judges, for whatever reason, touted to their colleagues on the bench.
		Disgraceful.
		Inexcusable.
		We need to call for mass retirement, resignations, and investigation into that courthouse.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It is the crux of evil in the country.
		Hang on, we have breaking news.
		Attorney General Garland has said, I am disappointed by today's decision which limits an important federal statute that the department has sought to use to ensure that those most responsible for the attack face appropriate consequences.
		Anna Paulina Luna has just tweeted, ladies and gentlemen, let's get this up, if we can get it up as quickly.
		Garland needs to answer for his blatant disrespect for Congress and the rule of law, this inherent contempt Has the full backing of the Speaker of the House.
		Let me repeat this.
		Ana Paulina Luna just tweeted out, Garland needs to answer for his blatant disrespect for Congress and the rule of law.
		This inherent contempt has the full backing of the Speaker of the House.
		That means that with the passage of this, it could come this afternoon or maybe early next week, that the Attorney General of the United States could be arrested by the Sergeant-at-Arms and the Capitol Hill Police.
		Stunning Stunning developments.
		Did I tell you, did I mention, I think we're hurtling towards a constitutional crisis?
		Folks, this is pre, this is 1858 stuff.
		Julie Kelly, where do people go for your, ma'am?
		You have been dead spot on this for years.
		You've had these people back for years.
		And Julie Kelly was on this show years ago and said, three years ago, and said, this is corrupt, this is wrong, this is going to get overturned eventually.
		And look at today, what people rotted in these federal prisons.
		Rotted in these federal prisons.
		Who can give them their lives back?
		Who can take care of the suicides?
		Who can talk about the broken families and the broken kids?
		This is revolting!
		And this is what we've allowed to happen to this country.
		In Garland, in Monaco, you're going to pay a price.
		You're going to pay a price.
		As sure as the turning of the earth, you're going to pay a price.
		And now you've got the Speaker of the House that's throwing down hard and saying, hey, if we can't get him any other way, we're going to get him this way.
		Julie Kelly, where did they go to get all your information and contacts, ma'am?
julie kelly ▲ ● ▼		Well, Steve, thank you for helping me cover this.
		My first article on this was March of 2021.
		You are a national hero.
		You are.
		at any rate, I just posted an article about today's opinion.
		Julie Kelly declassified with Julie Kelly at Substack.
		Also, I will be tweeting all day and doing other interviews, julie underscore kelly,
		q on x, and then Real Clear Investigations where I have several pieces related to this issue.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You are a national hero. You are.
		Julie Kelly, thanks.
		Let me repeat that.
		The Speaker of the House has given Ana Paulina Lunar the full backing of the Speaker for the inherent contempt charge against the Attorney General of the United States.
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tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		So last question, you spend 10 years within a society that punished journalists physically at times for telling the truth.
		You're watching political figures go to jail.
		And whatever you think of the charges or convictions or whatever, in every single case, you know for a dead certain fact that person hadn't been in politics on the wrong side, he would not be going to jail.
		That's just a fact.
		So they're using jail as a political instrument.
		How long until that comes to journalists?
		Like, do you worry that at this rate, like, you wind up indicted?
matt taibbi ▲ ● ▼		I've started for the first time to worry about that because I spent so much time in Russia and I knew people who physically suffered for what they did.
		Whenever people talked about taking risks as a journalist in the United States, I always
		said, look, please, you know, like in other parts of the world, they actually go through
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		hardship.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
matt taibbi ▲ ● ▼		Try that in Mexico.
		Yeah, exactly.
		See what happens, you know.
		Yeah.
		You know, but it's gotten weird here.
		I mean, even look, even the Bannon story, there's an element of that where it may not
		be as much about him as a political figure as it is about War Room, necessarily.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's 100 percent that.
matt taibbi ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		And no one wants to say it.
		But at this point in his life, as of today, Steve Bannon is a journalist.
		That's what he is.
		You may disagree with him completely.
		He hosts a talk show every day.
		Right.
matt taibbi ▲ ● ▼		So like, what is that?
matt taibbi ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
matt taibbi ▲ ● ▼		Right?
		And, you know, you hear people like Rick Wilson getting up and saying, yeah, it's four months, but it's four important months.
		It's where it's four key months, he said, you know, like, you know, the Republican strategist, he said that.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		The Lincoln Project.
matt taibbi ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Lincoln Project guy and the former Dick Cheney aide, you know, like, I...
		saw that and I was like, wow, they were kind of saying that out in the open, you know,
		and even my experience, look, you had the FISA thing happened.
		When I did the Twitter files, an IRS agent showed up in my house while I was testifying
		to Congress.
		So...
		That's absolutely crazy.
		Yeah, no, I thought it had to be a coincidence, but I don't think, I now no longer think it
		is and I do worry about it.
		I mean, I haven't even shared this with my wife yet, but I thought it might be time for us to get another house in some other place that doesn't have an extradition treaty.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, there aren't many.
matt taibbi ▲ ● ▼		You know, yeah, which is a problem, right?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That was Tucker Carlson, I guess last night, with the great Matt Taibbi.
		I want to thank for the shout-out.
		Really appreciate it, guys.
		Lawrence Tribe, who's kind of the smartest guy they've got about the Constitution, the smartest guy they've got, and he's a total radical.
		He's too radical, that's why they picked Merrick Garland, not even Lawrence Tribe, but he's the brains of the operation.
		Just tweeted out, and I want to quote, Chevron is now overruled.
		The administrative state Just died.
		The imperial judiciary joins the imperial presidency, relegating Congress to a secondary role except when it legislates with unrealistic specificity and foresight.
		Let me repeat, Lawrence tried.
		The administrative state just died.
		Folks, this has been a pretty crazy 24 hours, and it's going to get a lot crazier.
		So we want to make sure you're back on the afternoon.
		Charlie Kirk is next.
		Charlie Kirk and Poso, I think, had two million people on Twitter last night.
		Just incredible.
		Charlie's going to follow us right here.
		You got Poso.
		Then you got Gruber.
		You've got Tara Dahl and Miranda Kahn.
		We're back here five to seven tonight.
		We're going to be on fire.
		I'm trying to get some folks Cash and others Degrasse is going to talk to us about the down ticket because they're in total panic on the political side It's crashing for them because Donald Trump had the the courage
		Encourages Contagious to say, I'll do it any way you want to do it, because the nation, the world needs to see this.
		Now we have a national security crisis and we're about to very quickly have a constitutional crisis.
		Mike Lindell, you join us on a historic and solemn day, brother.
		We've got a whole firefight in Wisconsin.
		We'll deal with that tonight.
		Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, everything happening.
		What do you got for the Warren Posse?
		This amazing audience that has changed American history.
		And ladies and gentlemen, the last 24 hours, I think people realize how much you, this audience, has changed.
		Mike Lindell, what do you got for us?
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		Before we go to Charlie Kirk, Lawrence Tribe, one of the smartest guys on the left, Told us today the administrative state died.
		You saw last night that this illegitimate, phony Biden regime at the head, what's taking place in the White House, that died.
		It's now the responsibility of this audience, this audience.
		You've got to take action.
		We need to take action.
		Speaker Johnson has stepped up.
		If this is true about this inherent contempt, this shows you that Speaker Johnson has now said, I've had enough of this.
		This thing is out of control.
		We are hurtling towards a constitutional crisis, ladies and gentlemen, as big as the constitutional crisis before the Civil War in the late 1850s.
		As sure as night follows day.
		We're going to be back here from 5 to 7 at night.

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