June 28, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Right now, because I'm about to tell you the truth and F you if you can't handle the truth. | |
| This version of Biden. | ||
| Intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever. | ||
| Not a close second. | ||
| And I've known him for years. | ||
| The Brzezinskis have known him for 50 years. | ||
| If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it. | ||
| They're trying to provide housing for black Americans and dealing with the segregation that exists among these corporate corporations that collude to keep people out of their houses. | ||
| I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. | ||
| have to do with, uh, look, if we finally beat Medicare, thank you. | ||
| We'll move until we get the total ban on the total initiative relative to what we're gonna | ||
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do with more border patrol and more asylum officers. | |
| President Trump. | ||
| I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. | ||
| I don't think he knows what he said either. | ||
| Look, I think one thing Republicans and all Americans should think about what we saw tonight | ||
| is if you're a partisan Republican, this is not a time for glee. | ||
| There's no gloating tonight. | ||
| What we learned in 90 minutes on television is that the President of the United States at least appeared somewhat unwell. | ||
| And I know we're out here analyzing the politics of it and the machinations of all of it. | ||
| But he did not look good. | ||
| He did not sound good. | ||
| He did not acquit himself well politically or as the leader of the most important country on the face of the planet. | ||
| We have seven months to go in his term. | ||
| We have a shorter period left in this election. | ||
| I do think he walked into this thing tonight up to about right here in the quicksand. | ||
| And now he's up to here. | ||
| And I don't know how you get out of it. | ||
| When it's this high, and your job approval is 38%, and you already, as Abby pointed out correctly earlier, having trouble with your own base, and now they're in a total panic. | ||
| How do you get out of this morass with so little time to go? | ||
| Let me just take the other side of this Kamala Harris debate. | ||
| It is a fair question to ask right now. | ||
| What is going on inside the White House every day? | ||
| Is she currently making more decisions in the White House than we know? | ||
| Who is making decisions in the White House right now? | ||
| We're talking about this in terms of can Joe Biden win an election and serve for four years? | ||
| I want to know. | ||
| I want to know what's happening on a day-to-day basis. | ||
| To me, she is the big story tonight because her position in this administration, in this campaign, has become magnified by a thousand right now. | ||
| I expect that you're going to see not just the Vice President out more. | ||
| You're going to see Gretchen Whitmer out more. | ||
| You're going to see Gavin Newsom. | ||
| And they're going to be campaigning for Biden, but they're also showing the chops that they have, because there is a non-zero chance after the performance tonight that a change has to be made if the president were to step aside. | ||
| And there is a bench. | ||
| Dems actually have a very strong bench, but not the strongest person at the top of the tech. | ||
| Guys, this conversation about hair, I mean, listen. | ||
| First of all, this was not a good interview. | ||
| She couldn't answer a simple question about what's Joe Biden like on a day-to-day basis because the honest answer is not acceptable. | ||
| That's number one. | ||
| Number two, listen to what you're saying. | ||
| The sitting President of the United States is so out of it and infirm that you're now turning to the Vice President of the United States to carry your ticket and your party when they are currently in office supposedly running the country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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This is a scandal. | |
| The White House press secretary this last few days have been telling us, oh the videos you've seen of Joe Biden aren't real, they're fakes. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| government right now has a president and none of us are quite sure what goes on on a day-to-day basis and you're putting all your hopes and dreams into the VP. | ||
| Okay, that is not, that is not true. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| It's Friday, 28 June in the year of our Lord 2024, 110 years ago today. | ||
| In Sarajevo, Serbian nationalists executed the heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary, and what, 30 days later? | ||
| And nobody realized how big a deal this was at the time. | ||
| 30 days later, you start one of the greatest slaughters of mankind's history, World War I. Last night, this is not about politics. | ||
| This is not about the 2024 campaign. | ||
| Scott Jennings right there you saw on CNN, and Scott Jennings is a McConnell guy, one of the McConnell communications guys. | ||
| Scott Jennings and Steve Bannon would not agree on the day of the week or the time of the day in that day of the week. | ||
| He is the only person last night on national television that nailed exactly what the situation is. | ||
| President Trump, against all political advice, for the good of the country, Agreed to do that debate and essentially gave Biden and his crew a free option, which you never give a game a free option. | ||
| He did this for the nation because the nation needed to see exactly what the commander in chief currently, although, as you know, in this show, illegitimate, but current commander in chief with the nuclear codes and control of all the combatant commanders throughout the world. | ||
| Is actually like. | ||
| And what Scott Jennings said right there is absolutely correct. | ||
| We have a national security crisis right now. | ||
| That is going to lead to a constitutional crisis about the 25th Amendment very shortly. | ||
| The discussion's not about politics and who's going to run against Trump. | ||
| Joe Biden is not going, as I've said before, Joe Biden is not going to be on the ticket come the Democratic Convention. | ||
| Right now they know. | ||
| You see the chatter. | ||
| We're going to have to grass on a night. | ||
| They would lose the presidency by 10 to 15 points. | ||
| We would pick up 56, 57, maybe 58 Senate seats. | ||
| Right now, the Hill last night, quoting Democratic operatives, I mean, the hardest nuts out there. | ||
| You could lose 20 House seats. | ||
| The Democrats lose 20. | ||
| You would have a generational wipeout that would take them decades to come back from. | ||
| They will not allow that to happen politically. | ||
| But what we saw last night is what exactly is going on in the White House. | ||
| And how the media, if you can pull that, my getter, go to getter and pull up, and I think I sent it to you guys, the New York Times today, the five lead columnists, the heavies of the heavies, Tom Friedman, Frank Bruni, Nicholas Kristof, all with articles saying, this is terrible, Biden's got to go. | ||
| You're telling me Tom Friedman didn't know this? | ||
| You're telling me Frank Bruni with his connections didn't know this? | ||
| You told me when you came to MSNBC last night and it looked like a wake or sitting Shiva? | ||
| Are you telling me that they haven't known what's exactly going on when the White House, uh, when the White House, the Zen master, Jean-Pierre tells us, oh no, these are all doctored videos. | ||
| They don't know exactly what's going on. | ||
| Number one, this is politics aside. | ||
| What President Trump did last night was for the nation. | ||
| He put that no politician, no strategist would ever have done this for the politics of it. | ||
| Because obviously you're giving them the option to change it out and they will change it out. | ||
| He did it for the nation. | ||
| He did it to come front and center and see exactly, with no intermediary, exactly what the situation is with the so-called commander-in-chief. | ||
| The issue before us right now is quite simple. | ||
| It's not about who's going to win in November. | ||
| Because currently, if you go on, Trump's going to win by 10 or 15 points. | ||
| It'll be 400 electoral votes and a blowout in the Senate and a wipeout in the House. | ||
| The question for the citizens of this country is quite simple. | ||
| How and with whom do you get to January? | ||
| How do you get to Donald J. Trump hand on the King James Bible at high noon on the 20th of January 2025. | ||
| How do you do that? | ||
| Tell me how you do that. | ||
| Where would you like to be last night and this morning? | ||
| Would you like to be in Jerusalem, or Taipei, or Kiev? | ||
| Or would you rather be in Moscow, Tehran, and Beijing? | ||
| I hope that the 7th Fleet Commander has put the 7th Fleet on high alert. | ||
| Because right now, the enemies, the people that hate this nation the most, the people that hate our allies the most, the people that hate the countries that are affiliated with the most, are sitting there and seeing exactly what you saw. | ||
| Scott Jennings is absolutely right in the way he batted back. | ||
| Van Jones and David Axelrod, the fix was in. | ||
| As soon as it was over, they were talking about, you know, more in sorrow than in anger, and we got to do this. | ||
| The New York Times, the fix was in. | ||
| Over at MSNBC, and here's what they did. | ||
| And this is how Praetorian Guards roll. | ||
| Gavin Newsom gave a master class last night in having somebody's back who you know you're going to be asked to replace. | ||
| This is what the Praetorian Guard said. | ||
| Remember, the Praetorian Guard would always go to those generals first that appeared and seemed the most loyal so you wouldn't have a huge bloodbath in a transition. | ||
| The Praetorian Guard reached out to Gavin Newsom. | ||
| You had Pastor Senator Warnock. | ||
| Axios, did I tell you yesterday, nothing happens randomly. | ||
| There's no random occurrences in the imperial capital here. | ||
| When Axios and Mike Allen put out a story yesterday morning about Michelle Obama and she detests the, she attests the Bidens and she's not partisan. | ||
| Oh, so you could like come in not partisan and unite the country. | ||
| There's two tracks going on here. | ||
| Two tracks. | ||
| One is about the country. | ||
| That's a national security crisis at this very moment that is going to lead to a constitutional crisis about the 25th Amendment. | ||
| There's also a political issue. | ||
| And the political issue is because the Democrats put themselves above the nation. | ||
| And certainly they're going to trade him out. | ||
| And they're going to do that after they extract maximum pain from President Trump's upcoming prison sentence that the out-of-control Moscow show trial judge is going to give him. | ||
| On July 11th. | ||
| And they're going to trade it out politically. | ||
| So there's two tracks going on. | ||
| We obviously have to extract the most pain politically in doing this transition. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they're going to have two phases of that. | ||
| A messiah searching for the messiah. | ||
| And then they're going to have the honeymoon. | ||
| You saw it last night. | ||
| Trump's a liar. | ||
| Everything he says is a lie. | ||
| Trump went as crazy. | ||
| He's a liar. | ||
| That's the best. | ||
| President Trump was so magnificent, particularly for the first hour until the moderators let it devolve into something else. | ||
| He was powerful. | ||
| He was concise. | ||
| He was statesman-like. | ||
| They don't care about that. | ||
| Do you think they're honestly, after what you saw last night in the jeopardy they put this nation, do you think for a second that they're just gonna sit there and turn the country over to us? | ||
| Do you think that? | ||
| People that would do that? | ||
| He had 16 senior people in his administration and people that he's close to at Camp Tabard for a week. | ||
| Are you telling me they can't see that? | ||
| Scott Jennings asked the question, what is going on in the White House? | ||
| Who knew about this? | ||
| And the media, who have been his Praetorian Guard, the media who has covered this up. | ||
| We started the show with Joe Biden, this was from a couple weeks ago, I think. | ||
| The best I've ever seen, the smartest I've ever seen. | ||
| Bro, I'm gonna hang that around you every day. | ||
| Because this nation is in a crisis at this very moment. | ||
| And why are we in a crisis at this very moment? | ||
| Because you have an individual that clearly does not have all his faculties. | ||
| It was humiliating for this nation. | ||
| It was embarrassing for Biden. | ||
| But most importantly, it is about, quite simply, they have put Their own political benefits ahead of the country. | ||
| Donald John Trump did something yesterday that is a profile in courage. | ||
| He put the nation first. | ||
| He did something that no political group would ever agree to. | ||
| He agreed to their rules. | ||
| He agreed to when it would happen. | ||
| He agreed to everything. | ||
| He didn't push back. | ||
| He agreed to all of it. | ||
| Why did he agree to all of it? | ||
| Because he understood That the only way for the nation to see what the reality is, is to see it. | ||
| What do we say here all the time? | ||
| See what you see. | ||
| See what you see. | ||
| And last night, you have a cabal of media And political operatives in this radical Biden regime that have put the nation in jeopardy. | ||
| Let me repeat that. | ||
| They have put the nation in jeopardy. | ||
| I don't care about who he's getting changed out with. | ||
| I don't care about the meetings they're having with Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom or Gretchen Richmond. | ||
| I don't care about it. | ||
| What we care about is what's going on in that White House today, who's actually in charge, and who knew about it. | ||
| And I want to start with those columnists. | ||
| Tom Friedman, you brag about how dialed in you are. | ||
| O'Donnell at MSNBC, how dialed in you are. | ||
| Frank Bruni, how dialed in you are. | ||
| Okay, if you're dialed in, you've known this, and you've known this for a while, and you've lied. | ||
| You've looked to the American people and you've lied. | ||
| We have a national security crisis that's going to lead to a constitutional crisis on the 25th amendment. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return in the warm in just a moment. | ||
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We'll wait till they're all gone. | |
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Let's take down the CCP. | ||
| I think Republicans and all Americans should think about what we saw tonight is, | ||
| if you're a partisan Republican, this is not a time for glee. | ||
| There's no gloating tonight. | ||
| What we learned in 90 minutes on television is that the President of the United States at least appeared somewhat unwell. | ||
| And I know we're out here analyzing the politics of it and the machinations of all of it. | ||
| But he did not look good. | ||
| He did not sound good. | ||
| He did not acquit himself well politically or as the leader of the most important country on the face of the planet. | ||
| We have seven months to go in his term. | ||
| We have a shorter period left in this election. | ||
| I do think he walked into this thing tonight up to about right here in the quicksand. | ||
| And now he's up to here. | ||
| And I don't know how you get out of it. | ||
| When it's this high, and your job approval is 38%, and you already, as Abby pointed out correctly earlier, having trouble with your own base, and now they're in a total panic. | ||
| How do you get out of this morass with so little time to go? | ||
| Let me just take the other side of this Kamala Harris debate. | ||
| It is a fair question to ask right now. | ||
| What is going on inside the White House every day? | ||
| Is she currently making more decisions in the White House than we know? | ||
| Who is making decisions in the White House right now? | ||
| We're talking about this in terms of can Joe Biden win an election and serve for four years? | ||
| I want to know. | ||
| I want to know what's happening on a day-to-day basis. | ||
| To me, she is the big story tonight because her position in this administration, in this campaign, has become magnified by a thousand right now. | ||
| I expect that you're going to see not just the Vice President out more. | ||
| You're going to see Gretchen Whitmer out more. | ||
| You're going to see Gavin Newsom. | ||
| And they're going to be campaigning for Biden, but they're also showing the chops that they have, because there is a non-zero chance after the performance tonight that a change has to be made if the president were to step aside. | ||
| And there is a bench. | ||
| Dems actually have a very strong bench, but not the strongest person at the top of the tick. | ||
| Guys, this conversation about hair, I mean, listen. | ||
| First of all, this was not a good interview. | ||
| She couldn't answer a simple question about what's Joe Biden like on a day-to-day basis because the honest answer is not acceptable. | ||
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That's number one. | |
| Number two, listen to what you're saying. | ||
| The sitting President of the United States is so out of it and infirm that you're now turning to the Vice President of the United States to carry your ticket and your party when they are currently in office supposedly running the country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a scandal! | ||
| The White House press secretary this last few days have been telling us, oh the videos you've seen of Joe Biden aren't real, they're fakes. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| government right now has a president and none of us are quite sure what goes on on a day-to-day basis and you're putting all your hopes and dreams into the VP. | ||
| Okay, that is not, that is not true. | ||
| This is, this is all, this is the only thing that should be focused on. | ||
| This should only be the focus on this, on this. | ||
| This is the thing itself. | ||
| Because it, not symbolizes, it encaptures, encapsulates, encapsulates everything about these people. | ||
| And now on the world stage, you can't hide it. | ||
| Look at Zelensky's comments, you can't hide it. | ||
| Infirmed, sick, scandal. | ||
| Last night, Scott Jennings was the emperor, Scott Jennings of all, MSNBC and CNN and Fox and all of it. | ||
| Was the only guy that sat right there and said, stop. | ||
| Stop about the politics. | ||
| Stop about this election. | ||
| Stop about the Democratic Convention. | ||
| Stop about all your, who's going to take place. | ||
| We have a crisis here and now. | ||
| We've had a crisis that has not been this bad since Wilson had a stroke and had his wife kind of run the deal. | ||
| We need to get immediately an answer. | ||
| Exactly what is going on in this White House and this regime, this administration, we need to know immediately. | ||
| Immediately. | ||
| And we cannot back off this for the good of the nation. | ||
| This is where the country comes first. | ||
| Because we're going to hurdle quite quickly into a constitutional crisis. | ||
| Can you imagine if they called the combatant commanders, if you call Pacific Fleet in right now? | ||
| If you called the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and the service heads about what the reality would be, do you understand what the message traffic out from the Pentagon to the combatant commanders last night? | ||
| Look at Zelensky's comment. | ||
| Would you like to be in Jerusalem? | ||
| Would you like to be in Taipei? | ||
| Would you like to be in Kiev? | ||
| And see that? | ||
| That is a crisis to the heart of our country. | ||
| And then the second part is, who knew about this? | ||
| You know, Joe Scarborough, he's the best we've ever had. | ||
| I've known him for 30 years. | ||
| You're nothing but, you're disgusting and revolting. | ||
| He sat there this morning like it was awake. | ||
| You were so shocked, in shock about what happened and now you're coming up with everything. | ||
| You are revolting and you're part of the problem. | ||
| In the New York Times, all those columnists, Tom Friedman, you're part of the problem. | ||
| Frank Bruni, you're part of the problem. | ||
| MSNBC, you're part of the problem. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because you're all dialed in. | ||
| You all know what's going on. | ||
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You are the problem. | |
| And this has to be resolved. | ||
| How do we get to January 20th? | ||
| What happens to the nation? | ||
| That's the reality for this country. | ||
| This other track is all their machinations about the search for, first of all we're going to go for the search, you know, Joe Biden heroically for the country is going to step aside. | ||
| You have to, then you're going to have the search for the Messiah. | ||
| That's going to save you from the new Hitler. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And from MAGA. | ||
| From these right-wing, xenophobic, misogynist, racist, homophobic followers of President Trump. | ||
| And then when the search for the Messiah or the Team Messiah ends, then it's going to be a honeymoon like you've never seen before. | ||
| Look at just the vitriol on President Trump. | ||
| A magnificent performance. | ||
| Look at the vitriol on President Trump last night. | ||
| That's nothing compared to what's coming. | ||
| Oh, by the way, with a prison sentence handed up now by Mershad. | ||
| Delayed until after the election. | ||
| It's as clear, it's as sure as the turning of the earth. | ||
| It's as sure as the turning of the earth. | ||
| Perfect, we'll get to Mike Davis in a second. | ||
| We got the Chevron deference, overruled it, huge thing on the administrative state. | ||
| I want to bring in, one man saw this, and I am so proud that I got the opportunity to work with him at Breitbart years ago, and that he came on the show last week. | ||
| And it's not Steve Bannon saying he nailed it, I said he nailed it at the time. | ||
| It's Morning Joe. | ||
| Let's play the clip from Morning Joe and I want to bring in Charlie Spearing from the Daily Mail. | ||
| Let's go and play it. | ||
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What do we do now? | |
| We need to figure out how that works. | ||
| And there was a story the other day in the totally non-credible, in many respects, Daily Mail, I think. | ||
| A couple weeks ago, on Monday, they said that the Clintons, the Obamas, Schumer and Pelosi were going to watch this debate, and if it did not go well for Joe Biden, they were going to go and try to have the talk with him about stepping back. | ||
| Many people laughed at that. | ||
| It was not an incredible report. | ||
| You look at the Daily Mail, the British tabloid, whatever. | ||
| I had about six good sources after that who said, that's not totally false. | ||
| And the interesting part of that was the Schumer and Pelosi piece because no one thinks Joe Biden | ||
| would listen to the Obamas, the Clintons on the subject. | ||
| But because he cares so much about Democrats in the House and Senate, there was some discussion | ||
| about whether Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer privately were at least taking soundings on this question. | ||
| I don't know what will happen now going forward. | ||
| But I will say, these are the kinds of conversations people are having now in the Democratic Party as we speak. | ||
| What to do, because the level of panic is... For me, in my time covering politics, I've never seen a level of panic about this on this scale. | ||
| So that's John Harman on The Morning Joe Show. | ||
| I noticed, John, and you're not on the list to be investigated because you haven't worked hard enough, but you're an amazing talent. | ||
| Charlie Sperring, come in here for a second. | ||
| It was your story. | ||
| I don't remember John Hallman coming out at the time. | ||
| I failed to miss this on his Twitter feed. | ||
| I don't remember him coming out at the time, and maybe he did, and we should search it, but I don't remember, and we follow Hallman. | ||
| I don't remember him coming out with his six credible sources. | ||
| And saying, yeah, Charlie Spearing at the Daily Mail after he trashed the Daily Mail being not credible. | ||
| I have six good, credible sources that say Spearing is right. | ||
| I think I missed that. | ||
| So tell us about the story we had you on here for a week ago. | ||
| And why now is everybody saying that's exactly what's going to go on? | ||
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Yeah, Steve, thanks for having me back on to talk about this story. | |
| When I talked to Democrats earlier, and this was over the course of a month, last month, and for many days afterwards, was talking about what would it take to replace Joe Biden? | ||
| Is there some way that Democrats are reassuring themselves and trying to get it out there? | ||
| They all expected Joe Biden to actually do well in this debate. | ||
| They kind of thought that, you know, that they wouldn't have to pull the ripcord and they wouldn't have to deploy this plan if it actually took place. | ||
| Right now, they wake up the next morning and they're already seeing the signs out there of key Democratic operatives sending the message through their operatives, through their media, you know, their media people. | ||
| This is a crisis and we've got to fix it. | ||
| When you say crisis, they know now, you're absolutely convinced, after what you saw last night, that this still stands. | ||
| It has to be Schumer, Pelosi, Clinton, and Obama that have to go and make the move on Joe Biden. | ||
| Really, Jill Biden. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Look, it's very interesting. | ||
| People connected to Obama are already reading from the same script all morning. | ||
| They were very silent for several hours after the debate, but now they're all speaking from the same tune. | ||
| Joe, we love Joe Biden. | ||
| Joe Biden did a good job. | ||
| He was a great president, but it's time for us to start having these conversations about Joe going. | ||
| And I think John Hyland is right. | ||
| I don't think the Biden campaign respects the Clintons. | ||
| I don't think they respect the Obamas. | ||
| They are extremely stubborn. | ||
| They were routinely counted out, encouraged to leave, urged to step | ||
| down, and they have a chip on their shoulder. | ||
| They are not about to listen to the Obamas and the Clintons about this because they've | ||
| had way too much aggressive work against them throughout their entire political career. | ||
| And I think that if right now all eyes should be on Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| She's the one who will be able to go to Joe and tell him that it's time to stop, step down. | ||
| She will be the one to be able to have a close conversation with Jill Biden about the future going forward here. | ||
| And I think everyone should be watching Pelosi for any move. | ||
| Charlie, your social media, where do people follow you over the Daily Mail? | ||
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At Charlie Spearing on Twitter, on Truth Social, and on Instagram, or every day at TheDailyMail.com. | |
| Charlie, thank you so much. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. | ||
| Okay, we just had a bombshell at the Supreme Court. | ||
| The Chevron deference has been overturned. | ||
| We're going to go to Mike Davis live on the steps of the Supreme Court. | ||
| Jeff Clarkson, I got Liz Harrington. | ||
| A monumental day at the Supreme Court already. | ||
| We're going to go there momentarily. | ||
| I just want to reiterate that I do recommend President Trump, what he did for the nation last night was a profile in courage. | ||
| Because, as I said many times, he was going to beat Biden by five points or more in a blowout come this November. | ||
| He knew he could beat Biden. | ||
| He agreed to this early debate. | ||
| And remember, on all their rules, and how much did I bitch and moan about these rules? | ||
| Please tell me, audience, a lot. | ||
| He agreed to all the rules. | ||
| He agreed to all of it. | ||
| Let Biden have whatever they want. | ||
| Because the nation has to see what they see. | ||
| That is a patriot. | ||
| He didn't have to do that. | ||
| He could have said what he did in the primary, not debate him at all. | ||
| Not to give Biden... Biden is actually... President Trump is going after the incumbent, but the incumbent is illegitimate. | ||
| And he's kind of the upstart. | ||
| He's behind. | ||
| That's why they needed a debate. | ||
| President Trump didn't need a debate. | ||
| Biden needed a debate. | ||
| And he gave it to them on their rules and in their time. | ||
| And particularly before he's sentenced. | ||
| And before the convention. | ||
| And what did I keep saying? | ||
| It has to just be the Democratic nominee, whoever that is. | ||
| That's a real debate. | ||
| You can't give them a free option. | ||
| We're not in a fair... We're not going to do an August exhibition game. | ||
| It was Trump, in his wisdom, And I tell you this all the time when I have disagreements with him about things like this, 99.99999% of the time, he is correct. | ||
| He did this for the country. | ||
| That's a profile in courage. | ||
| I think he needs to come to the sticks today before this great rally in the Commonwealth of Virginia. | ||
| And I think he has to lay down exactly where we are. | ||
| This is not about politics. | ||
| This is not about their whole effort. | ||
| You know, Charlie Spearing about Nancy Pelosi and Spearing nailed it. | ||
| Pelosi's the key. | ||
| It's like the movie The Godfather. | ||
| Whoever comes to you at the funeral and offers the meat, that's the one. | ||
| It's Pelosi. | ||
| It's not the Clintons or the Bidens. | ||
| He's been fighting with those guys forever. | ||
| Not just the Clintons or the Obamas. | ||
| It's Pelosi. | ||
| She's the key. | ||
| Not Schumer. | ||
| Pelosi. | ||
| But for the country, it's what Scott Jennings said last night. | ||
| What is going on day-to-day in this White House? | ||
| Who is actually making decisions? | ||
| This is a national security crisis immediately. | ||
| We have an impaired, a very ill, and he's ill. | ||
| We have a very... Look at that last night. | ||
| That cadaver. | ||
| That's the commander-in-chief of the most powerful armed forces in the history of mankind. | ||
| That. | ||
| What do you think they're feeling in Kiev right now? | ||
| Harnwell will tell you they ain't feeling good. | ||
| How do you think they're feeling in Jerusalem right now? | ||
| They ain't feeling good. | ||
| How do you think they're feeling in Taipei, which is probably in the worst situation? | ||
| In Beijing, you're sitting there right now, saying, OK, boys, let's get it out. | ||
| Let's think about it. | ||
| Let's think this through. | ||
| If we go now, that's what will lead to a constitutional crisis on the 25th Amendment. | ||
| Mike Davis joins me over at the Supreme Court. | ||
| Mike, I want to get to the 25th Amendment. | ||
| You're an expert on all this stuff and the crisis we're in, in the governance, because all I'm worried about is how you get to, how this country holds it together in a world that's starting on the 110th anniversary of the assassination of the Archduke in Sarajevo by Serbian nationals that led to the greatest slaughter in mankind's history. | ||
| A war that didn't really end until 1989, essentially. | ||
| In bloody 20th century from 1914 to 1989. | ||
| Mike, but I gotta tell you, a monumental day. | ||
| We would be talking, we were led with you at the steps. | ||
| All we'd be talking about for two hours is the Chevron deference. | ||
| Can you walk me through what happened? | ||
| The Supreme Court 6-3 reversed a 40-year-old precedent, the Chevron case, where courts for the last 40 years have unconstitutionally deferred to executive branch agencies when those executive branch agencies interpret their own power, interpret statutes that give them power. | ||
| So, of course, these executive branch agencies always interpret that they have more power and the courts are supposed to | ||
| defer to that interpretation so long as that interpretation is reasonable, whatever the hell that means. | ||
| And so you had, you have Congress giving too much legislative power to these executive branch | ||
| agencies that are unaccountable to the American people. It's very hard to remove these | ||
| people. And then you have judges giving away their judicial power by deferring to these agencies on | ||
| their interpretation of their own Well, that ended today in this 6-3 case. | ||
| Of course, the three liberal justices dissented, as we expected, but this just shows you how important elections are and how consequent How consequential President Trump's first term was. | ||
| He transformed the left of center Supreme Court to the Clarence Thomas Supreme Court with the appointments of Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett. | ||
| And this means a lot for real Americans and real America. | ||
| If you're on the receiving end of the EPA as a former In Iowa, where I'm from, for example, they could crush you. | ||
| And what we need to do with this court over the next 20 years is continue to roll back these administrative agencies, the federal government, and put them in their proper place, as intended by our founders in the Constitution. | ||
| I want to address our brothers and sisters who are, you know, kind of from the Ted Cruz school or maybe the limited government conservatives. | ||
| We've talked for decades about how you get control of the Leviathan, on the spending and how it's insertion in every part of American life. | ||
| And for years and years and years, people talked about it as more regulation, as the cancer metastasized. | ||
| And that's why this is a seminal moment. | ||
| Because there were individuals, the Don McGann's of the world, the Jeff Clark's of the world, the Mark Pialetta's of the world, and a guy named Neil Gorsuch that had kind of a vision of how you take on the Leviathan. | ||
| That's why Associate Justice Gorsuch was Trump's first pick. | ||
| Mike, just tell, I want you to explain it in terms of Getting control of the Leviathan. | ||
| We've talked about limiting government for years. | ||
| And not only have we not limited it, it's only grown bigger. | ||
| It's been growing bigger. | ||
| It's accelerating at an accelerating rate. | ||
| The Gordian Knot you had to cut. | ||
| This is what Chevron deference was. | ||
| Why is this the railhead? | ||
| What I call the Mac Daddy. | ||
| Why is this the railhead of everything we want to do on deconstructing the administrative state, sir? | ||
| Well, I clerked for then-Judge Gorsuch on the Tenth Circuit when he wrote a powerful opinion on why Chevron was wrongly decided and why it must be reversed. | ||
| And you were on the selection committee for Justice Gorsuch, Steve Bannon, and you saw that opinion and you know how impactful it was. | ||
| I also clerked for Justice Gorsuch to help him get set up on the Supreme Court. | ||
| This is critically important to him because Justice Gorsuch understands, like the founders understood, the dangers of an all-powerful executive branch, the dangers of an all-powerful federal government. | ||
| And what the Supreme Court must do is follow the loan agreements that is our U.S. | ||
| Constitution. | ||
| We the people loan our federal government Specific, enumerated, meaning spelled out, and divided powers. | ||
| In exchange, that government is supposed to protect our liberties. | ||
| And this federal government over the last 90 years has violated that loan agreement. | ||
| The switch in time that saved nine. | ||
| The federal government has way too much power. | ||
| That the founders never intended and then that power has been Consolidated in the executive branch and then those executive branch agencies have been insulated from accountability From the American people through our elected members of Congress and our judges and this Chevron decision Changes that and says you guys do you guys do not get to decide your own power? | ||
| Your statutes are interpreted by courts, not the Tony Fauci's of the world. | ||
| Because the Tony Fauci's of the world are always going to interpret their power to give | ||
| them more power. | ||
| You know, this is also about process, folks. | ||
| Because people say, oh, you're so negative, you just want to stop things. | ||
| We had to stop Hillary Clinton and defeat her because of all the madness they wanted and, you know, managed to climb by elites. | ||
| But one of the most important things is Merrick Garland. | ||
| You ever heard his name? | ||
| Have we ever talked about Merrick Garland on the show? | ||
| Have I ever mentioned Merrick Garland? | ||
| Have I? | ||
| He was going to get a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. | ||
| Instead of Merrick Garland, Instead of that little worm. | ||
| Instead of him, we get Neil Gorsuch. | ||
| You stop it first. | ||
| You have to stop it first. | ||
| Then you pivot to what you're going to do. | ||
| This is monumental. | ||
| We finally now have the intellectual firepower. | ||
| To actually go and to take a part, and you wait till this afternoon. | ||
| They're going to strip the government, these guys, the radicals are now inside. | ||
| The anger against the court from the smart people in this town are going to be just as big, quite frankly, behind the scenes as it will be for the reversal of Fisher and for limited immunity for President Trump, which are two other blockbusters. | ||
| Anything else today, Mike, before we let you go? | ||
| Any other drops today? | ||
| There is. | ||
| There is a case out of Oregon that my former boss, Neil Gorsuch, wrote. | ||
| It's a 6-3 decision. | ||
| The 9th Circuit held that a town that banned homeless camps on public property violated the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the United States Constitution. | ||
| So if you don't want homeless people with their tents and their drugs and their trash and their other filth in your public parks, According to these liberal judges on the Ninth Circuit and three leftist judges on the Supreme Court, that would be unconstitutional for a city to end homeless camps in public parks. | ||
| That is absolutely insane. | ||
| Justice Gorsuch obviously reversed that nonsense 6-3, but it just shows you, Steve, just like you said, if Trump didn't win this election, you would have leftists locking us up with our COVID masks still. | ||
| And we would just have to defer to them at the CDC and say, yeah, we have to wear COVID masks the rest of our lives, and schools have to be closed, and remote learning, and homeless people can overrun public parks because these left-wing judges are insane, and they just proved it today with these three judges, these three liberal hens, on this homeless camping ban decision. | ||
| Somehow that's cruel and unusual punishment. | ||
| Maybe we should put these homeless people in the parks in these three liberal hens neighborhoods. | ||
| Mike Davis, what is Article 3, your social media? | ||
| Obviously Monday, because they've only given one more day. | ||
| Monday is a massive day at the Supreme Court, I assume sir, with both Fisher and Immunity. | ||
| I hate to say, Mike, that I called it. | ||
| But I think I called it. | ||
| So Monday is going to be a blockbuster day. | ||
| They will be far out of town before there's a release. | ||
| Mike Davis, what's your social media? | ||
| How do people get to Article 3 to join the fight? | ||
| One last thing, I would say that Justice Kagan is the biggest loser of Trump's transformation of the Supreme Court because she has to be pulling her hair out right now with these dueling, dumb dissents from Justice Jackson and Justice Sotomayor. | ||
| So, poor Justice Kagan. | ||
| That's cruel and unusual punishment. | ||
| But hang on, hang on. | ||
| I gotta ask you then, what is this, Justice Alito, who's such a gentleman, What was this thing that people sent me, because I can't understand it, where he actually goes after Judge Jackson? | ||
| I think that these justices are getting fed up with these dumb, emotive attacks from these left-wing justices. | ||
| These left-wing justices can't win these cases. | ||
| The left can't win elections. | ||
| And I would say after last night's disastrous debate for Joe Biden, it could be a 7-2 conservative Supreme Court in Trump's second term. | ||
| Mike, if you can hang on or maybe come over, I want to talk to you about the 25th Amendment also. | ||
| So let me figure out, give me Article 3 again, your social media, Twitter, all of it so people can follow you more than ever. | ||
| article three project dot org article number three project dot org you can follow us on social media you can take action you can you can actually just at the fisher case come out steve uh... the fifth of that uh... january six january six case written by chief justice john roberts and well i'll get you the is it i'll find take a break and hang a hold it we're gonna hold him here in space suspension steve bannon was wrong they just put a fisher i said this blockbuster Let's see if it is. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| short break. Oh, absolutely stunning. What we're about to tell you. | ||
| I've got Jeff Clark has joined us. | ||
| We got the whole team and we're gonna go to all of it. | ||
| Mike Davis has stayed. | ||
| Mike, I guess they heard me say it and Chief Judge Robert's gonna screw bad and here's what it is. | ||
| Tell me about Fisher. | ||
| It's a massive 6'3", but the makeup of it is quite striking, sir. | ||
| Talk to me. | ||
| Yes, so you have Justice Jackson writing a concurring opinion joining five conservatives to vacate the sentences of these January 6th defendants and send it back based upon the court's misinterpretation of this post-in-run Sarbanes-Oxley obstruction of justice statute. | ||
| Interestingly, you had Justice Barrett writing a dissenting opinion, joined by Kagan and Sotomayor. | ||
| So I don't know where Justice Barrett's head is on this one. | ||
| I have to read her dissenting opinion. | ||
| But this is a win for the January 6th defendants, as we've been predicting since the oral argument. | ||
| And this is a big win For the Constitution, because the Biden Justice Department... Hang on, hang on. | ||
| This is, I think, the most important... Here's why. | ||
| This is not about Trump's charges. | ||
| They go away. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| This is not even about the J6 guys. | ||
| And by the way, what's happened to them is insane. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Some of these people. | ||
| And the multi-year... Using this felony for multi-year. | ||
| This gets to the heart of the collusion Of certain justices with the Justice Department, and I think even the Hill staff, just like they removed Nixon, sir. | ||
| Am I too far off base on that? | ||
| Is that the beating heart of this problem? | ||
| No, you're exactly right. | ||
| The Biden Justice Department has politicized, weaponized, and contorted this post-Enron obstruction of justice statute dealing with corporate fraud to go after Trump. | ||
| His top aides like you, Steve, and Peter Navarro, who's sitting in prison right now, they want to send you to prison. | ||
| His attorneys like Jeff Clark, who's coming up, and John Eastman, his supporters on January 6th, they're putting real Americans in real America in prison for a very long time for a lawful protest permitted by the National Park Service that got out of control and devolved into a riot. | ||
| And they're trying to use this BS interpretation of this obstruction of justice statute to drop the hammer on these Trump supporters while they give amnesty to the much more deadly, dangerous, and destructive BLM Antifa, Hamas, abortion industry activists, trans terrorists, who are causing a hell of a lot more damage. | ||
| I led the Kavanaugh confirmation on the Senate Judiciary Committee. | ||
| I was the Senate staff leader. | ||
| They disrupted those proceedings within seconds. | ||
| Not a damn thing happens to them. | ||
| They were trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power on the Supreme Court. | ||
| Nothing happens, right? | ||
| If you are If you are a leftist, if you are an abortion industry activist, if you are a Hamas supporter, you can get away with whatever the hell you do. | ||
| But if you're a Trump supporter, they want to throw you in prison for years. | ||
| And we cannot let the Justice Department use vague laws to go after their political enemies. | ||
| And the Supreme Court put a stop to that today. | ||
| Mike Davis, once again, Article 3, your social media. | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| Donate, take action, follow us on social media. | ||
| Brother, thank you so much. | ||
| Jeff Clark, let's go to first, let's do J6, let's do Fisher, and then we'll get to the Chevron deference, of which you're an expert. | ||
| Tell me about Fisher. | ||
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Sure, so Fisher's great, Steve. | |
| It's a tremendous statutory interpretation case, and it was the obvious statutory interpretation all along. | ||
| It's a statute that's directed at obstruction of justice. | ||
| That's even in the title. | ||
| It's all over the place. | ||
| It was only designed to be changed after the Enron debacle because of the so-called Enron loophole. | ||
| And it's easily construed that addition to the statute to mean that you're talking about forms of obstruction that are like the existing forms of obstruction, like tearing up a document, like hiding a document, etc. or, you know, witness intimidation and the like. It's | ||
| not designed for protests. | ||
| And so the Supreme Court says, you know, that that's not what the statute is for. And they | ||
| apply, you know, I'll give your audience two quick little Latin lessons that applies these | ||
| two classic ancient canons of interpretation, Nostra Aetora Socius and Iustem Generis. | ||
| And they mean that words are known by the company they keep. | ||
| And that if you have a list of things, the list you construe it to mean that | ||
| everything on the list is of a like kind or character. That's what the Latin means. They apply | ||
| those canons. They say that outlaw outlaws what happened with these January 6th prosecutions. | ||
| And, you know, that's that's the end of it. They made short work of it, Steve. It's a | ||
| big victory for justice for the J6ers. But it's a great upholding of the rule of law | ||
| because the Biden administration, Garland Justice Department. They weaponized this statute. | ||
| They totally misinterpreted it. | ||
| They abused their prosecutorial discretion and the Supreme Court smacked it down. | ||
| But that's the point, the part of the matter is their abuse of this, and their knowing abuse of the system. | ||
| They knowingly went and did this. | ||
| This is Andrew Weissman. | ||
| This is why Weissman, John Hammond's not on the list, Weissman's on the list. | ||
| They knowingly, knowingly went in and used this, and the federal bench, you gotta ask some questions here, gotta be some tough questions. | ||
| Am I wrong on that, Jeff Clark? | ||
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No, you have to pursue this with maximum energy in oversight to see how we got to this very twisted place. | |
| Look, we haven't talked about it before, I think, in any of my appearances with you, Steve, but, you know, I was a law professor for, you know, a decade while I was in private practice and while I was in the Bush administration. | ||
| And I also guest lecture from time to time on constitutional law, including last year in Europe. | ||
| And this is the kind of interpretation of this statute, 18 U.S.C. | ||
| 1512 C.2, that if one of my law students came up with it, I would say like, you know, oh, you're very clever. | ||
| You're trying to use the text of the statute, but come on, you know, remotely, that's not what this statute is intended to do. | ||
| You're forgetting about these two canons that I just described. | ||
| You're forgetting about the fact that this was designed to plug a specific loophole. | ||
| You're just trying to use the statute in a cynical and results-oriented way to go after | ||
| people who you think you should be able to put on the hook, even if it destroys their | ||
| families, even if you're not using the statute against the same conduct by the left, right? | ||
| We had the whole summer of 2020 with the Antifa BLM Summer of Love. | ||
| Did they get special treatment under the statute? | ||
| Did they see themselves sent to jail for long periods of time? | ||
| No. | ||
| Jeff, hang on one second here. | ||
| Stick around. | ||
| Chevron, deference, cash. | ||
| We got an intelligence operation. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| Birchgold.com. | ||
| You think it's turbulent? | ||
| You ain't seen nothing yet. | ||
| National security crisis, constitutional crisis, all of it upon us. | ||
| Birchgold.com slash Bannon. |
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