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It's the end of politics. | ||
Let's just do it by force. | ||
Because physically, we mean it just the way we say we're saying it. | ||
We mean it just the way you're hearing it. | ||
We're coming for you. | ||
Mr. FBI tough guy, why is he wetting himself on national TV? | ||
He's damn scared, because he understands the end is near. | ||
So brother, you and all the other people, these are torturous conversations we're having. | ||
Don't torture yourself. | ||
Don't torture yourself. | ||
Get your passport, get the hell out of the country, because hey, we're coming. | ||
And guess what, bro, you ain't gonna like it one bit. | ||
Your crimes and your treason, Comey, all of you. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
Go to the ends of the earth. | ||
We will hunt you down and bring you back. | ||
Drive the vermin out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. | ||
Biden, you and your crime family are nothing but trash. | ||
For Joe Biden and Dr. Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, all in the Biden... They're a bunch of feral dogs, right? | ||
It's a family of feral dogs. | ||
We're going to have to fumigate the lies of Joe Biden, the treason of Joe Biden, and how enfeebled he is. | ||
After that, it's not the tapes. | ||
We're coming after Lisa Monaco, Merrick Garland, the senior members of DOJ that have prosecuted President Trump. | ||
Jack Smith, that's where you come in. | ||
You're the vanguard of this revolution. | ||
We're going to do what the Romans did to Carthage. | ||
We're going to salt the earth around it so there'll never be another building there again. | ||
We're going to rebuild something else. | ||
There'll be something that comes up and is rebuilt along the lines that's appropriate. | ||
We've got to go back to the beginning. | ||
We've got to go back to Russiagate. | ||
We've got to go back to who did that. | ||
We've got to go back to Mueller's commission. | ||
We've got to go back to Andrew Weissman and MSNBC and the New York Times and all of it. | ||
Right? | ||
Every FBI agent, all the CIA, DHS, Chris Wray, all of them. | ||
It's going to be a new day. | ||
And MAGA will run things. | ||
They're going to know that MAGA is not only ascendant, MAGA is in charge. | ||
It's very simple. | ||
Victory or death! | ||
So this isn't, you know, red meat for the base. | ||
This isn't retribution, right? | ||
This is retribution as much as Tony Soprano's dad was providing protection to the local butcher. | ||
This is not a response to anything. | ||
What this is, is just menace and physical threat, right? | ||
It's not politics, it's just power. | ||
It's just force. | ||
They're just promising violence. | ||
That is what they're offering in this election, that this is how we should run the country now. | ||
We will hunt you down. | ||
And you'll know that we're in power. | ||
And we're going to get rid of law enforcement. | ||
We're going to salt the earth. | ||
And we're just going to hunt you down. | ||
And this is not some random right-wing media guy. | ||
This is the man who was the campaign manager for Donald Trump and also the senior White House advisor to the former president, who is now their nominee again. | ||
And it's not like he's the only one who's saying this thing. | ||
This is what they are offering the American public. | ||
And they love it. | ||
They're super excited to be getting done with politics, getting right to the force and violence part of it. | ||
So you said recently that you thought that you, as an outspoken critic, could be a target yourself. | ||
Some people think that sounds overdramatic, but I'm right there with you. | ||
I think that he is so vindictive that he will go after, however he has to, through the IRS maybe, or even through sponsors to get us off the air maybe, or you. | ||
How seriously should we be taking that? | ||
Well, so I was asked, am I worried about me? | ||
And my answer was, I'm worried about all of us. | ||
I'm no more worried about me than I am worried about everybody in the country. | ||
I think it's bad to have somebody saying, give me as much power as you can in this country so I can use it to go after Other Americans. | ||
So I can use it to go after these subhuman internal enemies and I'll destroy them. | ||
That's just not a good system for anybody. | ||
And I don't think anybody's safe if that's the sort of basis on which he wants to get more power. | ||
Well, remember when Nixon had an enemies list? | ||
That was a proud moment for a lot of people if they were on the enemies list. | ||
Maybe we need to turn it around like that. | ||
Well, I don't, I mean, I think that if he decides that he's going to go after you or me or anybody who's well-known, you know, we have resources, we'll likely be fine, but I think there's a pattern where he picks out individual people and effectively terrorizes them. | ||
I mean, there's Stormy Daniels wearing a bulletproof vest to get into the courthouse. | ||
It's ridiculous. | ||
Once you have political violence, you have fascism following that. | ||
Right. | ||
Well, just to counter your earlier statement, I don't feel good about this. | ||
There you go. | ||
Work harder, everybody. | ||
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She's scared. | |
I don't feel good about this as a candidate and with many members of the Republican Party who do not adhere to norms and have no boundaries. | ||
Do not respect the law. | ||
Do not respect human life. | ||
Do not respect a woman's right to choose. | ||
Do not respect, do not respect, do not respect. | ||
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And that's why they're going to lose. | |
I do not feel good about this, so I hope you're right. | ||
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And I guess... I'm listening to everything we've been saying, congratulations, and I'm just bringing it back to your Eric Holder segment, and... What's wrong with us, that this man, that half his country, if you just watched 25 minutes of this show, you would go, this is a despicable human being! | |
Forget anything else, it's just... And yet, somehow, Somehow, a large swath of this country is okay with it. | ||
What does it say about us? | ||
I'm running out of things to denigrate Donald Trump about. | ||
I'm running out of things to talk about what a bad human being he is. | ||
You could just talk for nine hours. | ||
I'm not even going to list it. | ||
What's wrong with us? | ||
What is wrong with us, Nicole? | ||
How did we get here? | ||
I know I'm drifting off a little bit. | ||
I'm just getting worked up as I'm listening to this, just doing voice on The Apprentice. | ||
I love it. | ||
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It's just a little, it's just a little slice of such an indecent, vulgar human being every way. | |
And you and I both know smart, educated people that are gonna thumbs up with this. | ||
And it's just, what the hell happened to us? | ||
The outrageous charges in New York were a corrupt creation of crooked Joe Biden and his group. | ||
And they really weaponized, what they did is they weaponized the Department of Justice. | ||
They weaponized all the White House. | ||
No, they didn't. | ||
Trump committed a crime and the people who helped him do so, some of them went to jail, some of them received immunity. | ||
They testified and a jury of his peers convicted him. | ||
He was held accountable by a local prosecutor who worked completely independently of the Department of Justice. | ||
Full stop. | ||
But where you or I might just dismiss this as a campaign speech, MAGA disinfo, riling up the base, as just that, Trump supporters hear those words, accept them as fact, and with January 6th as an example, are open to acting violently. | ||
It's how Trump and his allies are today priming Trump supporters for what will be nothing less than a hostile takeover of the Department of Justice should Trump prevail in November, turning around the very instruments used to keep Trump in check into political weapons. | ||
And don't take our word for it. | ||
They're saying it out loud. | ||
Trump ally, fellow convict Steve Bannon, has been open. | ||
About the plan to prosecute high-ranking DOJ officials, people like Attorney General Merrick Garland, out of what he describes as, quote, retribution. | ||
Of course, when it comes to unfounded attacks against the people serving at the top of the Department of Justice, Steve Bannon's warmongering is more like Chapter 10 in a years-long saga on this front. | ||
One could easily argue that Chapter 1 started during the Obama presidency. | ||
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
It's going to happen. | ||
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
It's Thursday, 20 June, Year of the Lord 2024, right there. | ||
And we had so much more material we could cut. | ||
We couldn't fit it in. | ||
We'd take a couple of segments just doing the cold open. | ||
They're sad. | ||
They're sad because they're worried. | ||
And they're worried because they understand the crimes they have committed against this republic are all going to be revealed and prosecuted. | ||
And they're not feeling very good. | ||
We're making them cry, Rachel and of course Rachel Maddow and Nicole Wallace, Joy Behar, we could have gotten Caitlin Collins in there, so much. | ||
But I love the way that my staff cut it, because it's a ten chapter book. | ||
With Bannon it's a ten chapter book and chapter one goes back to the Obama regime. | ||
And of course I had to invite two of the individuals who are in the middle of this fight but were back in chapter one and headliners in chapter one. | ||
That's Matt Boyle National political editor for Breitbart News and Jim Hoff, founder and editor-in-chief publisher of Gateway Pundit. | ||
Matt, I just want, Matt, give me your thoughts. | ||
You see that, and it's every day now, in every show. | ||
They're not, the smug, you know, the smug smirks they had and the laughing and the high-fiving during President Trump's sham show trial has all been wiped off their face. | ||
And they're sad. | ||
They're not doing well. | ||
Matt Boyle, why is that? | ||
It's not even election night yet, Steve. | ||
Watching that, I was literally laughing sitting here. | ||
That cold open, and you're right, that's just a taste of what they're doing out there every day. | ||
They're in total freakout mode. | ||
It reminded me a lot of 2016 election night. | ||
Remember how, like, they all melted down when Donald Trump won the election, and it was a total, you know, at first they thought they had it in the bag, and then all of a sudden you started seeing them turning and whatnot. | ||
I remember being there at the Trump election night party in New York, and at first, like, You know, there were these BuzzFeed reporters and other lefties roaming around, and they were all trying to get those of us who were very pro-Trump, who were there, to our thoughts throughout the evening. | ||
And at first, they were all gleeful. | ||
And then once it became clear Donald Trump was going to win the election, they all turned very sullen and stony-faced. | ||
Very similar type of a situation here. | ||
And again, may I remind you, we are still months away from the election. | ||
I cannot wait until we see them all on election night when Donald Trump is elected the 47th president of the United States and we see the Nicole Wallaces and the Rachel Baddows and the rest of the wine club there, Joy Behar, etc. | ||
On election night in November, but the, um, I think they're afraid, they're afraid, right? | ||
Like, and by the way, I know they like to call it vengeance and revenge and whatever. | ||
It's not revenge. | ||
It's an equal application of the law, right? | ||
Like, I mean, again, what we see is, uh, we published this story, uh, two weeks ago on Breitbart that goes in detail about this. | ||
Uh, all of this does stem, Donald Trump is a hundred percent correct. | ||
It does stem from Joe Biden, the White House, uh, one day after the election. | ||
In the midterm election, November 9th, 2022, Joe Biden held a press conference at the White House in which he said he was going to use constitutional and legal means to stop Donald Trump from becoming president again, even if he ran. | ||
And then nine days after that, three things, on November 18th, 2022, three things happened on the exact same day. | ||
First off, Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States, appointed Jack Smith to be the special counsel. | ||
Secondly, Nathan Wade, who was Fannie Willis's lover and the lead prosecutor on the case in Georgia, spent eight hours at the White House in the White House Counsel's Office. | ||
Eight hours? | ||
That's a long time for the White House Counsel, which has a lot of things to do. | ||
Nathan Wade was in there for eight hours on that same day. | ||
And on that same exact day, that's the day that Matthew Colangelo, the then number three at the Department of Justice, submitted his notice. | ||
to leave the Department of Justice and he would go on to become the lead prosecutor | ||
in Alvin Bragg's office in the Manhattan District Attorney's office | ||
to go after Donald Trump. | ||
All three of those things happened on the exact same day, November 18, 2022. | ||
That's the day, nine days after Joe Biden gave the order from the White House | ||
at a press conference, that this all began. | ||
Because they knew we just took the House of Representatives. | ||
That's correct. | ||
They knew we just took the House of Representatives and President Trump was speaking. | ||
And President Trump, correct me if I'm wrong, Matt Boyle, you were there, I believe, sir. | ||
President Trump was at the 15th or the 17th. | ||
He was at Mar-a-Lago and announced he was running for President of the United States. | ||
I forget the exact day, but it was... He had an official kickoff. | ||
Yeah, I forget the exact day, Steve, but it was only... | ||
after the election right like so it was the election yes here's the chain of | ||
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events we won the house right And we won the House, as you know, with Breitbart and War Room and Gateway Pundit hammering that there had to be, start to be, real investigations of the Biden crime family, all that, number one. | ||
Number two, Donald Trump, then the following, I think, Tuesday after the election, but I think, I believe it was around the 15th, announces he's running for, officially, formally, at Mar-a-Lago, officially running for President of the United States. | ||
And then 18 November, three major things happen. | ||
Fannie Willis' Okay, they're sad for a reason. | ||
That is the propaganda department of our ruling class that are enemies of the people. | ||
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Okay, they're sad for a reason. | ||
That is the propaganda department of our ruling class that are enemies of the people. The ruling class are | ||
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enemies of the people. | |
And they have tried to destroy this American republic and they understand | ||
their crimes. | ||
We had John Solomon on yesterday. | ||
You heard about McCabe. | ||
You heard about the whistleblowers coming to John Solomon about what McCabe did, about shutting down the investigation into Biden, the $120 million spiff they were taking off of Burisma. | ||
And there's so much more than that. | ||
I mean, I went through the laptop from hell in the CCP part. | ||
That's part of it. | ||
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It is pure treason. | |
Selling your country out to your greatest enemy for money. | ||
Not for ideology. | ||
For money. | ||
You can't forgive both. | ||
You can't forgive either. | ||
But at least ideology. | ||
You say, hey, I realize they're whack jobs. | ||
They're Marxist. | ||
They hate us. | ||
But for money? | ||
That's what the Bidens are. | ||
The pack of feral dogs in the White House. | ||
For money. | ||
This, uh, I'm going to get Hoff, because they're after Hoff, and bankruptcy, Justice Department, I'm going to get Jim Hoff, one of the great foundational elements, along with Andrew Breitbart, of this movement. | ||
But I've got to go back. | ||
Boyle, I cannot emphasize enough, and Grace and Mo and Carly Bonet and Elizabeth and everybody that's a force multiplier and running all of our chats, please get this article from Breitbart out. | ||
It must be read and it must be understood. | ||
And the first Tuesday in November, we win the House. | ||
We take the House. | ||
And we're quite the people that put their shoulder to the wheel. | ||
And yes, we did not get as many seats as we thought we were. | ||
But remember, even those seats were lost by a couple of hundred votes max in many cases. | ||
But we're very focused on investigations and holding the Biden crime family accountable, like maybe we're going to roll to impeachment on this. | ||
A week later, Donald John Trump announces he's running, officially running for he'd been running, but officially running for president of the United States. | ||
Boom. | ||
On the 18th, Merrick Garland appoints Jack Smith special counsel, boom, to get him out of D.C., to get Trump from the D.C. | ||
office. | ||
Colangelo is seconded. | ||
Mr. Colangelo is seconded to New York for those, for what you just, the fiasco you just saw. | ||
And Nathan Wade, Fonny Willis, comes to The White House Council, and Matt Bohr is right, the White House Council doesn't take outside meetings. | ||
They take them, they're 15 minutes long. | ||
Their sheet, when you go into the White House Council, which by the way is in a secured space, it's in a skiff. | ||
You can't even get up there. | ||
To go see the White House Council, you're there for 10 or 15 minutes. | ||
Eight hours is unheard of. | ||
And the reason, it was Georgia, because that was the railhead of Michigan and Arizona and all of it. | ||
Matt Boyle, there are no conspiracies, but there are no coincidences, are there, sir? | ||
No, this is astounding. | ||
And then there's one other date in there that's really important, which is one day after the November 8th midterm election, which is November 9th. | ||
Joe Biden has a post-election press conference. | ||
at the White House. So the president of the United States himself, and he is asked about | ||
the looming announcement that we're talking about that happened on November 15th, where | ||
Donald Trump announced that he's running for president again from Mar-a-Lago. But that | ||
November 9th press conference, Joe Biden says that he will stop Donald Trump from becoming | ||
president again via constitutional means. That's his word, not mine, right? | ||
Like Joe Biden used the word constitutional, meaning that he's not going to beat him in the election at the ballot box. | ||
He's going to use legal and constitutional battles like all of this stuff. | ||
Then nine days later, all of this stuff happens, right? | ||
Like again, it's DC and the federal government and state governments, et cetera, are so incompetent that it's not It's unbelievable to believe that this wasn't set in motion by the president. | ||
That's the point, is that these things don't happen this fast, this quick, all in one day, by accident. | ||
This is why they're sad. | ||
This is why they're sad. | ||
Because they understand on the afternoon of the 20th of January, we're going to get all those records. | ||
All of them. | ||
Lisa Monaco's, Merrick Garland's, Matthew Colangelo. | ||
Alvin Bragg, Tish James, Fonny Willis, Nathan Wade, all of them are going to go to prison for a vast conspiracy against Donald Trump. | ||
As sure as the turning of the earth. | ||
Inside the Constitution and by the rule of law. | ||
Go ahead Matt. | ||
Yeah, every text message, every email, every document is going to become part of the public record here. | ||
As long as Donald Trump wins the election and the Republicans hold the House and take the Senate, if that happens, I believe that there will actually be an equal application of justice under the law on these fronts. | ||
I think these people will face serious consequences for their actions. | ||
I don't know what those consequences are, and I don't know what facts will be uncovered and whatnot, but I can tell you that seeing these three things happen, this turn of events on the exact same day, is unheard of in American government and politics. | ||
Our government is so complicated, widespread. | ||
It's too much of a coincidence for it to be a coincidence. | ||
Oh, hang on for one second, Matt. | ||
I want to bring in the great Gateway Pundit, Jim Hoft. | ||
Jim, they're already trying to put you in bankruptcy, okay? | ||
And now I see a big story. | ||
Walk us through how the DOJ is now weaponized against Gateway Pundit. | ||
Yes, Steve. | ||
Well, this isn't a surprise. | ||
And by the way, that was a great clip, Matt's comments, and that story at Breitbart is just huge. | ||
I took a different take from Rachel Maddow when she says that she's worried they may come after her. | ||
Well, welcome to our world, right? | ||
This is what we've been going through for several years now. | ||
And certainly, I can't wait, Pennant and Steve, of course, your story, everyone knows. | ||
So we're just another one of the pawns that the Biden administration has been trying to take out since they came into office. | ||
We decided last month- Hold on, hang on. | ||
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
Stop, full stop. | ||
There's a huge difference. | ||
What you're reporting you're doing with War Room, we have no governmental power. | ||
We had a guy that they threw out of here, stole the election and sent to Mar-a-Lago that was in the 30s for his approval. | ||
We have no power. | ||
President Trump had no power. | ||
We're just doing information and putting up stories and getting guests on. | ||
We have no government power. | ||
We gained power, blocking power, the command by negation. | ||
Because of our work to get at least some MAGA into the House of Representatives and be able to have that as both a forcing function and a stop function. | ||
But we have no executive governmental power. | ||
Or no judicial power. | ||
Or no real legislative power. | ||
We're just a couple of grundoons. | ||
The Gateway Pundit is a very interesting site. | ||
I go there first thing in the morning every day. | ||
It's a very interesting site. | ||
But you're just another grundoon like Steve Bannon and Matt Boyle. | ||
Just another guy. | ||
Difference in Rachel Maddow, as the evidence will show with Andrew Weissman and all the people on MSNBC and someone seen him, but particularly MSNBC, they colluded in all of this with government officials and the leaks and all of it and it's all coming out. | ||
It's a huge difference, Jim Hoft. | ||
You're just a guy at the site that puts up some stories they don't like, and helped drive the fact that President Trump is going to take over again. | ||
That's why they hate you, but there's nothing you did that's anything more than just putting up stories and driving narratives. | ||
They are the propaganda department included, and Weissman and a bunch of their guys they have up there all the time actively worked on these things, and then lied about the presentations of it. | ||
Oh no, no, no. | ||
The receipts here are going to be quite different on Jim Hoft and Rachel Maddow, sir. | ||
But continue on. | ||
Well, absolutely. | ||
We're not getting tips from the DOJ for any of our stories that we put up, as you know. | ||
So we moved to this Chapter 11 in Florida. | ||
And what happened in the past two weeks, Steve, is you go into this, it's a process called a 341 meeting. | ||
And if you look it up online, it'll say it lasts about 10 minutes. | ||
What we found when we went in there was I was grilled for two hours by this DLJ trustee who was assigned to our case. | ||
So he's asking me all these bizarre questions, grilling me, abusing me, abusing my attorneys for two hours. | ||
Then at the end of the two hours, he decides, oh, we're going to have another session next week. | ||
And then he was going to allow some of these people who have cases against us than to go at us for the second session. | ||
So we went to another session a couple days ago in the morning. | ||
It lasted another two hours where they're grilling me, abusing me, abusing my attorneys, asking us all of these questions that, you know, legal questions that I wouldn't have any idea about. | ||
And so then we find out, Steve, afterwards, during this process, I find out that the DOJ is actually putting their thumb on the scale They're pressuring this person to make sure that this Chapter 11 is thrown out. | ||
Why is that? | ||
Why is that, Steve? | ||
Because we have a couple of very important cases that these people are coming after us, and they don't want these cases to get to trial. | ||
That's my opinion, okay? | ||
One is with Ruby and Shay. | ||
Years ago now, we reported that they were stuffing ballots, stacks of ballots, through machines late at night in the State Farm Center in Georgia. | ||
And there was no observers there, no GOP observers. | ||
They were sent home. | ||
We reported this. | ||
We have the video, right? | ||
And they decided to sue us. | ||
And in the meantime, there's another case with this Eric Coomer character who worked for Dominion. | ||
This case goes on. | ||
It's cost us, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars. | ||
And so they want this to get sent back. | ||
That's my belief. | ||
And they want this to get thrown out. | ||
So the DOJ is actively working behind the scenes, secretly, to make sure that this happens. | ||
We find that out this week. | ||
We also find out, Steve, after the call is over, I find out that there were 15 people on this call. | ||
Attorneys, we don't even know who was on the call. | ||
We knew of about 11 people we can identify. | ||
There's several others who were sitting on this call, this court hearing call. | ||
And then within 24 hours, of course, we see a hit piece on Gateway Pundit. | ||
Out at the Insider. | ||
This was leaked within 24 hours saying that I bought a Porsche at one time and I also bought a condo in Florida. | ||
And that's their big hit piece on us. | ||
So this is what's happening to Gateway Funded. | ||
It goes on and on and on. | ||
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You understand exactly what this is like. | |
Hang on one second. | ||
Matt Boyle, National Political Editor from Breitbart News. | ||
Jim Hoff, Founder and Publisher of The Gateway Pundit. | ||
We're going to take a short break. | ||
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Scott Besson is going to also be here. | |
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
Walkthrough. | ||
Just for some scheduling, Scott Besson is going to join us in a moment. | ||
We're going to go through this financial fiasco that we currently have that you guys know that we've warned you about for the last couple of years. | ||
It's now upon us. | ||
Paul Danz on Project 2025 is coming in the second hour. | ||
We're also going to go To England. | ||
Raheem Kassam and Ben Birkwam are now, Real America's Voice, Ben Birkwam is going to be in England for this amazing race for Parliament. | ||
Raheem is going to be there. | ||
I believe they're not going to Blackpool. | ||
I think they're going to, with Nigel, I think they're going to the district that Nigel's running in, but we're going to get a full report from that. | ||
Also, later today, in the 5 o'clock lead story in the Washington Times today, Boebert She's got 40%. | ||
She's got a massive lead in her primary. | ||
We're going to have Lauren Boebert on to discuss everything that's happening right now in her race at 6 o'clock. | ||
Naomi Wolf is going to join. | ||
She's going to deconstruct more of the Fauci interviews tomorrow. | ||
Natalie Winters is going to come back and do more. | ||
We've got to get to the bottom of everything, all the lies that Fauci's talking about and make sure that we're holding them accountable. | ||
Also, Brian Costello on Sequoia Capital, the crimes of Sequoia Capital. | ||
We're going to break all this down, the ties to the Justice Department, the FBI. | ||
Republican Party and Democratic Party. | ||
So we're going to get into all of that. | ||
And Harnwell's going to stay up late because there's polling out of the United Kingdom that absolutely shows that, hey, he may only end up with five to seven seats in Parliament, but Nigel Farage is just storming ahead of the Tory party. | ||
It's absolutely extraordinary. | ||
So all of that today and much, much more. | ||
We have a Supreme Court watch. | ||
Some cases are dropping right now. | ||
Fisher did not drop. | ||
The immunity did not drop. | ||
I don't think the Chevron deference or any of the big administrative states, but we're going to get into all that. | ||
And then also Julie Kelly will join us. | ||
Jim Hoft, people love The Gateway Pundit. | ||
Where do we go? | ||
How do we keep up with the story? | ||
Yeah, Steve, they can go to TheGatewayPundit.com. | ||
We'll be reporting there. | ||
And we have this report up this morning. | ||
And appreciate it as always, Steve. | ||
Let me, um, the, um, just people want to know with all this turmoil you're going through, we're not going to have, you know, it's bad enough to get Alex Jones in the ropes. | ||
They're not going to shut down gateway punted, particularly now they want to shut down gateway to punt it between now and five November, but there's no chance that happens. | ||
Correct. | ||
I don't believe so, Steve. | ||
I'm not planning on that. | ||
Right. | ||
And that's why we, we made the move that we did. | ||
Fine. | ||
We have your back. | ||
This audience does, too. | ||
Appreciate you, sir. | ||
You're a hero and patriot. | ||
Thank you, Steve. | ||
From Chapter 1 in Nicole Wallace's book on us, Jim Hoft, along with Andrew Breitbart, also in Chapter 1, Matt, you said something that With everything we put out today and this amazing story and people need to go to Breitbart News. | ||
The team right now is pushing it out. | ||
But you said something that is true wisdom. | ||
The reason they're sad and worried is the rise of MAGA and they understand the political power we have. | ||
But it doesn't mean anything if we don't close the deal. | ||
This is what happened in 2020. | ||
So you've been at this for a long time. | ||
You got a lot of scars. | ||
What is your message to the MAGA baser about where we are and what we need to do? | ||
Well, first off, I mean, while the polls look good in a lot of places, and there's a lot of good promising numbers out there, you have to win, right? | ||
Like, none of this matters unless we win on November the 5th, right? | ||
Like, Donald Trump must win this election. | ||
That's the first and foremost, most important thing. | ||
Secondly, the Republicans need to take the Senate. | ||
And thirdly, the Republicans need to hold the House, right? | ||
Like, so all of that stuff happens. | ||
That's the first thing. | ||
That's step one, right? | ||
Like, so step one is a complete GOP sweep America first Republicans especially of Washington DC. | ||
And then the next steps are beyond that, it's going to be actually seeing this through | ||
in a second Trump term, right? | ||
Like so making sure the right people get into key positions in government. | ||
We saw this of course, during the Trump administration, the first go around, | ||
where there were some not so great people that got into political appointed positions, | ||
whether they were Senate confirmed or not. | ||
And so making sure that this movement's ready for a second Trump term, | ||
I think it's a little bit more mature than it was back in 2016, when the first go around. | ||
Uh, so that's going to be important. | ||
And then actually following through on this stuff, right? | ||
Like going through, not just going through the motions of let's have another hearing where people get to go, uh, have their little three minute Fox news interviews, right? | ||
Like are there Fox news clip, uh, appear where they yell at somebody for three minutes. | ||
No, there have to actually be consequences. | ||
They have to actually see this stuff through, uh, to the end. | ||
Uh, and that means, uh, some of these processes take years and look, The reason why they're coming after all of us, right? | ||
Like, they're coming after you, they're going after the Gateway Pundit, they're going after Dallas Jones, the reason why they're going after Peter Navarro. | ||
I mean, Peter Navarro's in jail right now, right? | ||
Like, what, why, the reason why they're going after Trump, right? | ||
Like, the reason why they're going, I mean, they've been coming after Breitbart for 10 years, right? | ||
Like, the reason why they're coming after all of us in any way they possibly can. | ||
I know they're, I see they're going after the Epoch Times as well, right? | ||
Like, why are they doing that? | ||
Because they know that the only way that they can get away with this stuff, even if Trump wins the election, even if the Republicans win, is if they shut down the American right. | ||
Because those of us out here who are actually going to Tell these stories and hold these politicians' feet to the fire are the reason why. | ||
Because look, here's the deal. | ||
We've seen it so many times where the Republicans get into power and then they get, oh, we got to be nice. | ||
You know, oh, we're not going to we're not going to lock her up. | ||
Right. | ||
We're not going to do it. | ||
This is not a time for niceties. | ||
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Right. | |
This is a time for evening the scales of justice. | ||
And making sure the law is applied equally and fairly across the board. | ||
We see the heavy hand that they've applied to the American right. | ||
Well, the American left has a lot more problems than the American right and it needs to be equal. | ||
It needs to be fair. | ||
And we're going to have to be there every step of the way to guide the Republicans, if you will, in the right direction. | ||
As sure as the turning of the earth. | ||
Matt Boyle, how did they get to Breitbart? | ||
And I think you're now back on social media over Truth. | ||
One day we'll have to tell, we'll take a half hour, we'll tell the social, Matt Boyle and Twitter. | ||
We'll hold that for another day. | ||
Where do people find Matt Boyle? | ||
Where do they get all the Matt Boyle they can take? | ||
So just Breitbart.com. | ||
All our reporters are working very hard around the clock. | ||
So just go there. | ||
And then also I'm on True Social at Real Matt Boyle, and I do our Saturday morning radio show. | ||
I took over from one of the greats, obviously, yours truly, Steve, on Saturday mornings, 10 a.m. | ||
to 1 p.m. | ||
Eastern Time on SiriusXM 125. | ||
People ought to tune in there. | ||
It's a very special show. | ||
Matt gets the best guests and does great interviews. | ||
And thank you for being our guest at Detroit Live. | ||
People loved it, Matt. | ||
You've got a huge fan base. | ||
Thank you, sir. | ||
Appreciate you. | ||
Anytime. | ||
The great Matt Boyle. | ||
What a way to start. | ||
I kind of got 27 Yankees today. | ||
I got Jim Hoff, I got Matt Boyle, I got Scott Besson, I got Paul Danz, Raheem Kassam, and Burquam over in London. | ||
Following Nigel, who's now hurtling towards, looks like way ahead of Richie Sunak. | ||
We'll get to all that. | ||
I got a cold open for Scott. | ||
And I asked Scott, Scott changed his schedule to do this for us because he's the wise man about these numbers. | ||
And he's got a lot to say about it. | ||
Let's go ahead and play Scott's cold open. | ||
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This fiscal year is 7% of GDP. | |
Never, never been like that. | ||
And by just where we are right now, it's going to be 122% The debt held by the public, 122% by 2034, it's going to go up every year. | ||
It was never over 100 before that. | ||
Do you believe in MMT? | ||
Do I believe in MMT? | ||
I do not. | ||
I do not. | ||
But the two candidates running for president have no interest in reining in the deficit rate. | ||
Or entitlements. | ||
Or entitlements. | ||
So how does that, when does that... | ||
Never comes home to roost. | ||
So if productivity increases... AI. | ||
Again, here we are. | ||
I'm talking productivity. | ||
It doesn't have to be AI. | ||
It's also in the healthcare sector and some of the biotechs that we're seeing as well, and the pharmaceuticals driving efficiencies and driving better outcomes for patients as well. | ||
I'll be more productive if I'm not fat. | ||
We are. | ||
Really? | ||
All of us are. | ||
More productive when you're not fat. | ||
That's another reason for me to do... Remember, part of the nomenclature We've tried to teach over the last three years, I think, now maybe four years, is modern monetary theory, which is this bizarre, you know, of the many bizarre theories that came out of France, and there have been many, this may be the most bizarre, that deficits don't matter and essentially your currency doesn't matter. | ||
Scott Besant. | ||
Scott, before we talk about the solutions, they're sitting there trying to pitch a supply side. | ||
We're going to productivity and all this. | ||
Of course, you know the math doesn't work. | ||
But you've taken a look at this, and you're the best guy I know with the numbers, and you're saying, hey, this is so much worse than CBO's presenting. | ||
So can you just take a second and walk us through exactly what was dropped on us by CBO the other day about these deficits, about the exploding debt? | ||
Can you take a second and walk our audience through what your take on this is? | ||
No, Steve, thanks. | ||
Good morning. | ||
And I'd be glad to. | ||
And I'm going to start out as a financial analyst and then later on express some political opinions. | ||
But this is worse than I imagined. | ||
We're halfway through the year. | ||
The deficit to GDP is going to be $2 trillion. | ||
I'm sure that the number will be revised up later in the year. | ||
A big amount of this is related to the illegal student loan forgiveness. | ||
And I'd like to put on my political hat. | ||
I was at the Manhattan Institute the other day, and I and a group of people made this point. | ||
Joe Biden is like Imelda Marcos throwing dollar bills out of a bus window and he's not very popular. | ||
So it's clear he's spending a lot. | ||
And this is, like I said, it's worse than I could ever imagine. | ||
I have come out from behind my desk. | ||
I'm taking a more public role because I believe that 2024-25 is the last opportunity for a supply side solution. | ||
Or for us to grow our way out of this. | ||
But with numbers like this, you know, I think on your show before I previously said, you know, Joe Biden has the steroid, anabolic steroid economy. | ||
Looks great on the outside, but it's killing your internal organs. | ||
I tell you, these guys are about to put us on a ventilator. | ||
Like I their prescription for what they want to do in 2025 to get the deficits down is high taxation, more regulation. | ||
So you know, I think we're going to go from the steroid economy to the ventilator economy, because the steroids have killed her capacity. | ||
And the most worrying thing here is just the debt Service, the interest bill for the United States of America will be $1.1 trillion this year. | ||
To put that in perspective, the defense budget is about $850 or $900 billion. | ||
So we are spending more on interest than we are spending on defense. | ||
If there are no interest rate cuts this year, the interest bill Well, automatically go up to 1.5 trillion for 2025. | ||
We have never seen this when we are not at war or not in a recession. | ||
So we are at the 6.87% deficit to GDP with full employment and Joe Biden telling you how great the economy is. | ||
This is an unsustainable path. | ||
If The economy starts weakening. | ||
Right now, what we're seeing is a spending problem. | ||
The revenues side... Scott, we're gonna go to break. | ||
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I tell you, Scott, we're going to go to break. | |
We're going to go to break for a second and we want to reboot you because you're coming | ||
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I want to thank folks in Detroit when we had the meet and greet. | ||
So many people came up, particularly young people. | ||
And Seth, I love the way that you guys walk through the economy, walk through capital markets, you connect things we never taught in school and didn't know. | ||
So, we've got to thank Dr. Dave Bratt and Dr. E.J. | ||
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Scott, You're a mathematics guy. | ||
What worries me most about this is that this is not a true picture. | ||
The institutions around the federal government, like the Federal Reserve and Treasury trying to work together to juice the economy, BLS giving us false numbers that they're changed. | ||
As bad as this is, and this is horrible, it's not the true horrible picture, is it, sir? | ||
Look, these numbers aren't They're not meant to be accurate. | ||
They're meant to be just a snapshot in time of the data that's available. | ||
What is alarming is the trend. | ||
And this deficit just is not going down. | ||
And it's all spending. | ||
It's like I said earlier, it is a spending problem, not a revenue problem. | ||
But the real you-know-what will hit the fan when we get a revenue problem, because we're not going to get a spending decrease. | ||
The Biden administration put out their 10-year budget, and they say that they're going to get the deficit under control, which is, in my mind, kind of like Hannibal Lecter saying he's going to be a vegan. | ||
And they just want to keep spending, but now they want to tax, tax, tax. | ||
And it's just a deeply cynical thing to have done. | ||
The way this has happened, and A, it is a financial problem, but B, I say that it has now become a national defense issue. | ||
If you look back, I think it was Cicero who said, the sinews of war are infinite money. | ||
The U.S. | ||
Treasury flexed up three times in the history of this country in Salman Chase financed the Civil War for the Union. | ||
So, the Treasury and our ability to borrow saved the Union. | ||
The Treasury and the ability to borrow saved the American people during the Depression. | ||
And the Treasury and the ability to borrow saved the world during World War II. | ||
And now, we're at the point where we are borrowed out during a boom. | ||
But Steve, to your point, Look, the folks at the CBO are good, well-meaning technocrats. | ||
The protocols that they use are not accurate. | ||
And, you know, I do have an issue with some of the sequencing that they've done. | ||
Their recent work on immigration, I felt, was off base because they showed the benefits of economic growth through new arrivals without the cost. | ||
And at a point, I had a meeting with them and told them that I thought that it was not great sequencing and they should have put in the cost. | ||
But more importantly, The costs borne by the federal government are obfuscated because it ends up at the state and local level. | ||
Like, look what's happening to the budgets of New York City, Denver, Los Angeles. | ||
Eventually, the federal government will have to step in. | ||
The other thing that happens, and I think it explains a lot of the polling for President Trump, The budget cuts for those cities are borne by the most vulnerable people, and low-income people are getting it both ways. | ||
Their wages are being suppressed by the immigration and the government services are being cut. | ||
You're seeing veterans shelters or veterans centers in Boston being reallocated to migrant shelters. | ||
So, you know, this isn't an accurate number. | ||
When you had asked me earlier, you know, this, the accrual on this, you know, I am sure that After November 5th, we will get a much bigger number. | ||
Yes, all of a sudden they're going to find, hang on for a second, I got to ask you, but also you were the first one to point out for us and you came on months ago about this unique time when the Fed and Treasury started to work together to juice the economy and all the disasters happened from that. | ||
It's also Janet Yellen's Radical theory of how this is financed. | ||
One of the reasons you have gross interest now of 1.1, and if they don't have a rate cut, you're going to go to 1.5 trillion. | ||
And ladies and gentlemen, that's just taking money out of everywhere. | ||
The three-card money, this thing is so upside down, they're financing it in 90-day bills and notes, right? | ||
Isn't the financing process itself Adding to this, and folks, if you think that's too esoteric, pull out your credit card bill, because your 29% APR, or your mortgage, or your car loan, or all of it, is because the inflation is now embedded in how the government's financing this massive debt. | ||
Am I wrong on that about this three-card money, Brother Besson? | ||
No, Steve, you're right on. | ||
Point as usual. | ||
And I think the best way for your viewers, listeners, to think about this is if you were financing your household, | ||
you could either take out, you could have gotten a 4% mortgage in 2021 | ||
and had household debt with a long-term 30-year mortgage at 4% or at a point, | ||
you could take out credit card debt every day. | ||
And what's happening is Jenny Yellen is paying down the mortgage and using the credit card to do it. | ||
Because she wants to keep long-term interest rates down. | ||
She's suppressing long-term interest rates to keep the stock market up, keep the bond market from blowing out, and then she's using the national credit card at the very short end to pay the highest rate available. | ||
So, and, you know, again, we'll see what she does after November 5th. | ||
And I was very proud of Senators Hagerty and Kennedy the other day. | ||
Because they really gave her the business function. | ||
I spoke with Senator Kennedy. | ||
Hang on one second. | ||
I want to get all of this. | ||
I know you're busy, but I got to hold you. | ||
90-second break. | ||
Scott's going to be on this side. | ||
We'll keep him for a few minutes. | ||
We've got more to go through. | ||
Paul Danz. | ||
So the MSNBC producers should get ready. | ||
The CNBC guys can now shift off after Scott. | ||
Get ready. |