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June 18, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3693: Getting Back To The Core Of American Values
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
It is Tuesday, the 18th of June, the year of the Lord, 2024.
There is a lot going on today.
We are taking it from every angle.
And making sure that we get you the signal, not the noise.
Naomi Wolf joins us just back from London on the Mark Stein situation.
We'll hopefully get her back and address that later in the week.
But there's huge things.
Chris Kobach, one of the smartest lawyers in the country, the Attorney General of the great state of Kansas.
Many folks in this audience worked for Kobach to get elected.
He's done some stuff, I think, today on Title IX, about this huge announcement yesterday.
Naomi, you said, hey, court cases are going our way.
As these things get adjudicated, things are going our way.
Talk to me about how important is what Chris Kobach is doing with this suit, I guess he filed against Pfizer?
dr naomi wolf
Yeah, so much is happening.
It's amazing what a tipping point is, Steve.
Suddenly something that seemed really marginal for a long time kind of breaks through and then everyone's deciding differently in courtrooms.
So I mentioned the AstraZeneca vaccine has been removed from the market and this was in the face of two lawsuits in the UK for thrombotic thrombocytopenia which is blood damage which we reported on two years ago.
So we could have saved a lot of lives if Ofcom hadn't censored us in Britain.
But also, there was a ruling for Health Freedom Defense Fund in California a week ago that says that lawsuits can proceed against mandates.
That's a very big deal.
And I mentioned the Supreme Court deciding on whether the White House behaved unconstitutionally in silencing critics.
They're in the act of deciding that now.
And our own volunteers, your own volunteers, the War Room Daily Cloud advisor documents volunteers, have been invited and have been presenting to parliaments around the world.
So they presented to the Parliament of Brazil twice, to the Australian Parliament.
naomi wolf
They're presenting it to Japan, the government of Japan shortly, and other governing bodies, as well as congressmen, senators.
dr naomi wolf
What's happening is that something that was dismissible, you know, for many, many months since we've been doing this work, is now kind of incontrovertible.
And that's going to affect legislation around the world as well.
And it's affecting the climate in which Dr. Fauci is being grilled.
I still am not going to say that the Republicans in Congress are doing an impressive job.
But the atmosphere around them is changing, putting us on offense.
And the news out of Kansas is just the latest really important breakthrough.
naomi wolf
I'm happy to describe that.
steve bannon
You said the atmosphere is changing.
This is one of the reasons that Fauci was sad last night with Rachel Maddow.
They don't have the smirks, and it's not the triumphant way they've handled things.
Talk to me about going forward about these lawsuits.
How is Fauci going to get rolled up in this?
dr naomi wolf
Well, that's a good question.
It's pretty important what's happening at a state level, and as I often say, It's much easier to fight battles at a state level than at a federal level if the corruption is super intense.
But it also creates a network of facts on the ground as these cases move through court at the state level that will make it harder and harder for Dr. Fauci to escape justice and other evildoers.
Let's not forget Dr. Rochelle Walensky and the head of the FDA who were all on the email chain In April of 2021, when the White House and 15 White House staffers in a template going up to the president were all deliberating about how to conceal myocarditis damage in minors from the people of the United States of America.
And we foiled that with our lawyers.
naomi wolf
So I think what's going to happen is that as these cases move through the courts, Dr. Fauci has less and less ground to stand on.
dr naomi wolf
And we've even seen like in my own court filing in the Ofcom case in London, it was impactful or it felt impactful.
We don't know the final decision to be able to say, look, courts around the world are ruling against these manufacturers and those governing bodies.
that suppressed information about the risks of these experimental injections.
So one country affects another country.
One court affects another court.
That said, I'm not going to hold my breath for Dr. Fauci to see justice because the Republicans seem thoroughly stitched up in some way that is beyond my understanding.
But that's it.
What's happening in Kansas is really important.
Attorney General Chris Kobach filed a civil lawsuit Monday against Pfizer, alleging that, quote, Pfizer misled the public that it had a, quote, safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine.
And Kobach is saying that this violated the state's Consumer Protection Act.
And just to note, this is the same approach that our own lawyer, George Smith, has taken.
That it's it's that it's a violation of consumer protections.
It's fraud.
Basically consumer fraud.
So Kovac seeks quote civil monetary penalties damages and injunctive relief from deceptive statements made in marketing COVID-19 COVID-19 vaccine.
And he focuses on four areas.
And as I described it earlier His argument, which is very clean.
naomi wolf
We're posting it on Daily Cloud.
dr naomi wolf
If it's not up already, it's a brief argument in clear English, which is always a blessing.
It's very clean and it focuses on four areas.
So he's focused on the most egregious examples.
A, the safety of the vaccine for pregnant People, says most legacy media, but I'm going to say women.
Two, in regard to heart conditions, again claiming that, I mean Borla stated that it didn't cause my myocarditis and we have evidence, they clearly have evidence, that Pfizer knew that it did.
Three is its effectiveness against variants and they're noting that half of the, half of the examples of people who used the vaccine didn't, it wasn't effective, which is evidence we also, as you know, have been bringing out for
quite a long time, and its ability to stop transmission. So he goes, you know, into detail with
each one, but I'm really happy to see that our work on pregnant women, you know, may be
influencing what they're looking at.
COVAX says in February of 2021, Pfizer possessed reports of 458 pregnant women
who received Pfizer's COVID vaccine during pregnancy.
More than half of the pregnant women reported an adverse event and more than 10% reported a miscarriage.
And he cites the journal Medicine.
And other scientific journals.
And of course, as soon as he says this, other people are like, no, miscarriage rates are fine.
But he has the evidence.
We have the evidence.
It's not fine for vaccinated women.
And he goes into detail about myocarditis and pericarditis.
And he says that, you know, not only did Pfizer knew, but the U.S.
government and the U.S.
military and foreign governments and others knew that the vaccine caused myocarditis and pericarditis, which is true.
And then he goes into detail about Pfizer's claims that it was effective, which it isn't.
And lastly, that it prevents transmission.
And he points out, and this has come out in European hearings, that Pfizer didn't even look at whether it prevented transmission.
So all of that language, let us never forget, about don't hug your grandmother or your eldest daughter at home, was nonsense because it had no effect on transmission.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
Where do people go now?
We need more volunteers always over at your site.
Where do people go to work with Amy Kelly and the team?
Because you guys are driving the narrative and now we're driving it through courts and state legislatures.
naomi wolf
It's true.
dr naomi wolf
It feels good.
Well, we need everyone's help.
So come to dailyclout.io.
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naomi wolf
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dr naomi wolf
And today is pub date for the Bodies, Feathers, and Paperback, which you can buy on Amazon.
That tells the story of the last few years, and it has the early findings from the War Room Daily Cloud Pfizer Documents Research Team.
And guys, none of this would have happened without Steve.
You know, as you face everything that we face, Steve, I just want to thank you for your stoicism and thank the posse because none of this shift in the wind would have ever happened without your leadership and the leadership of the posse.
steve bannon
Well, it's the War Room.
All credit goes to the muscle you had, and that was the War Room Posse.
3,500 of them, and of course, supporting you, etc.
You guys have been the tip.
You've taken a lot of grief, too.
So, thank you and congratulations.
Look, every day, these are victories coming up.
Victory begets victory.
Remember that.
Naomi, one day I've got to get you on.
We've got to go through Naomi Klein's book now that she's award-winning.
Her weird obsession with Naomi Wolf and her weirder obsession with the War Room Posse, we've got to break down now.
That's an acclaimed book in the United Kingdom.
Naomi, thank you so much for coming.
We'll get you back on about Doppelganger.
dr naomi wolf
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you, ma'am.
Thank you for the kind words.
Charlie Kirk, man oh man, I have not seen, I hope the Republican convention causes a bigger meltdown by the left as the convention that Turning Point put on over the weekend.
Tell me how you guys did it, what is your assessment, where do we go from here?
charlie kirk
Well, I'm sure you saw the Rachel Maddow clip last night, right, Steve?
We were both co-stars there.
And it's so interesting, at least in my portion, Rachel Maddow didn't say my name.
So hi, Rachel Maddow.
I'm Charlie Kirk.
Nice to meet you.
She does this kind of cutesy thing.
This guy here.
And she leans in.
And, you know, it's really interesting.
MSNBC is giving us a lot of coverage lately.
And one of the reasons they're giving us a lot of coverage, I think, Steve, is I think they're starting to get wise to the fact that Turning Point is building a full-spectrum machine through our 501c3 and 501c4.
We're building a machine on campuses.
We're building an apparatus on churches.
We're building a social media machine.
We also have our ballot-chasing project.
We're doing a poll-watching project.
And I think they're starting to get a little worried.
You know, Rachel Maddow, she only works one day a week now.
Poor thing.
And she, you know, by the way, you said it perfectly, Steve.
What a sad operation she has around there.
I mean, we're talking about, you know, it, right.
It was, it was just a, I watched this.
I said, she is not a well person.
I'm not, you know, trying to trivialize it.
No, but I mean that.
There's something not right.
It was dark, it was depressing, right?
steve bannon
She's scared.
No, it's anxiety and fear.
It's anxiety and fear working on it.
Absolutely.
She saw the clips from your... She didn't watch it, but MSNBC did.
They curated clips from your...
That's right.
And they tied back to the crosstabs and the polling.
They see what's happening here.
That convention, to me, epitomized more than anything else how ascendant this movement is.
That's right.
The depth of speakers, but also the workshops.
The workshops is where the rubber meets the road.
People are raving about the workshops, Charlie.
charlie kirk
Yeah, well, thank you, Steve.
And it's the individualized trainings and the thousands of people that signed up to get involved, get engaged, become precinct committeemen and to get involved in the local level.
You know, I share, Steve, you know, you and I think are the only ones in the conservative media that watch MSNBC the most.
I watch it all the time.
I believe in the information warfare hypothesis.
You really got me on to this.
I got to be honest.
I watch Morning Joe.
So I know their stuff better than they know their stuff.
And so You know and you are the tip of the spear in this kind of thing In this sort of belief, but I'll tell you that when it goes back to what happened in Detroit We're still hearing the success stories people now are coming in there emailing me.
They're saying Charlie I registered 35 voters this last weekend at a gun store because I was so fired up in Detroit We will not even know the force multiplier of factors almost this invisible hand type of move where we won't even know Steve the full impact until
November or even beyond because I mean when you have 8,500 nearly 10,000
people you don't know all it takes is for one person in that room to become
a change maker one person in that room to become a citizen Kane
One person in that room to become a citizen activist.
And so, Steve, it was a remarkable thing, and now we're on book promo week.
We have Right Wing Revolution, by the way.
I have a signed copy I'm sending to Rachel Maddow at 30 Rock, introducing myself.
And she won't get it because she only works one day a week every Monday.
It's too much.
By the way, Steve, you do six days a week.
I really do five-ish, six days.
I'm a stickler on the Sabbath.
But she's not cut out for this right-wing revolution.
We talk about this in the book, Steve, which I think is very important.
People can find it, by the way, at 45books.com.
It's 45books.com, which is this.
In Rachel Maddow's presentation last night on MSNBC, It seems as if they have lost their will to fight.
I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but they're not the same left that we fought four years ago.
steve bannon
Hang on.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K Vance.
steve bannon
Man, what a couple of blocks I got in front of us, folks.
I got Charlie Kirk, Royce White, the great Royce White's about to join us with Captain Ben, and I got Charlie Spearing is going to be on deck.
Charlie Kirk, give me another minute on that.
They're losing the will to fight.
That's not the smirky, you know, smug MSNBC of Rachel Maddow and her team, is it, sir?
charlie kirk
But I am seeing a trend line.
You can't sustain outrage at the level that they've had it for nine years.
It's just not physically possible.
I mean, from Donald Trump going down the escalator, their outrage was at one level.
And then once Donald Trump won, it went to a whole nother fever pitch for four years
through COVID, through masks, through lockdowns, and then January 6th.
And it seems as if that they're just declining in their intensity a little bit.
Now, whether that will manifest in election results or not, we'll see, but Steve, you know this, that politics goes to those who show up, and most times, it goes to who wants it more.
And if we're honest with ourselves, the thought crime of 2020 is that the left wanted it more than us in 2020.
They had Mark Elias doing all sorts of weird, goofy stuff.
They had Dropboxes.
They went to every possible extent because their will was more than ours in certain areas.
Now, your audience worked really hard in 2020 and all that, but the left, they were seeing red to get rid of Donald Trump.
No, I think that there's still elements that have that sort of sustained energy on the left, but not from Rachel Maddow.
I mean, they've lost their, they've lost their top commander.
Again, she only does one day a week.
She did not look like she was a joyful, happy warrior.
She just looked like cynical, broken.
I mean, what was her whole show about?
This is the end of politics as we know it.
Well good, because no one really likes politics right now.
I'll be honest.
Like politics is kind of awful and people want a different type of, I mean, And by the way, this Greta Thunberg-ification of American discourse, where the world is ending no matter what it is.
I think that there is a rejection of that, where the American people say, okay, you said the world was ending with COVID, you said it was ending with climate change, ending with Ukraine.
Enough.
I kind of want to live my life.
And Donald Trump, and again, I talk about this in the book, I'll just close with this, is that it's a return to the center.
When we say right-wing revolution, it is re-centering the country.
It's not taking some sort of radical detour.
It's getting back to very basic norms and customs.
We want borders.
We want language.
We want culture.
We want kids to be able to be kids and not have groomer drag queens dance in front of them.
Very simple, very ordinary American way of life.
We talk about that in the book.
People can check it out, 45books.com.
The great Sergio Gore is publishing it.
Check it out, rightwingrevolution45books.com.
steve bannon
Serge or Gordon Jr.
have the courage to put right-wing revolution on the cover of a book.
Everybody's got to get it.
You're great, Charlie.
Charlie, you really pulled off a great event this week.
It's going to resonate for a long time.
Thanks for coming on.
And thanks for following us on Real America's Voice.
Charlie's up 12 to noon every day here, followed by the Great Post.
So thank you, Charlie.
unidentified
What a warrior.
steve bannon
Rachel Maddow not happy.
You'll see her, she goes after Kirk, and then he's right, she won't even mention the name.
Um, I've got, Charlie Spears is going to join me in a moment.
First I want to go to Royce White.
Royce, you are the, uh, the convention nominee.
from the Minnesota State Party Convention, the Republican Party for the United States Senate, but you've got a side hustle.
You're one of the stars of the Big Three Basketball League.
Captain Ben is also with us.
We got a special deal.
We're going to talk.
But, you're in Oakland, and you've got on your skull, your head, as you always do, you always put something in marker, and you've got Free Trump.
What did you mean by that, and how did that play with the folks in Oaktown?
royce white
Free Trump from the vice grip of this kangaroo, witch hunt, show trial, sort of globalist political theater we're living in.
Yeah, obviously he hasn't been incarcerated yet, but convicted 34 times is egregious.
It's an insult.
It's an insult to the American people.
I don't even know why people accept it, even if you don't like Donald Trump.
I mean, let's say you hate him.
Part of what being American is, is understanding that people have opposing views, people on opposite sides of the political spectrum, so to speak.
But you never celebrate a tyrannical court.
You never celebrate the weaponization of the court.
It's just on principle.
But we've lost those principles.
So Free Trump, there were some hecklers in the crowd.
There were people, the little kids loved it.
I mean, the little kids out there in Oakland, they were coming up, you know, yelling Free Trump.
It was fun.
We had some fun with it.
But there were hecklers.
And the thing they don't like about me, Steve, the thing that makes me the most dangerous is I'm from the neighborhood, I'm rough around the edges, and they know I won't take one single back step.
And the hecklers that were right there in the front row, I don't need security.
I'm my own security.
If you want to do something, if you got something to say, you want to step across that line, then be my guest.
I invite it.
I'm ready for that.
We're done with the Democrats.
We're done with trans stripper shows for kids.
We're done with the CCP.
We're done sending our money to the Ukraine.
We're done telling Americans that they can't have a proliferation of energy, and we're going to export our pollution to China for some type of weird virtue signal.
We're done with theologic.
And anybody who wants to, you know, gather together a bunch of people who never were cool at high school, and that's really what it is, Steve.
And I'm going to talk about that on my podcast on Wednesday.
That, you know, the kids that used to be emo and goth now became the trans-antifa kids and all of a sudden we're supposed to follow them because they got a big group of... This is the heresy of democracy.
I just, you know, I don't want to get too deep, but that's the heresy.
It's like every majority is righteous.
Uh-uh.
We're done with that.
The black guy will tell you.
We're done with it.
And if they have a problem with it, they can come talk to me about it.
I'm here all day.
steve bannon
That's why Royce White is a fire-breathing candidate for the United States Senate and came out of the convention with two-thirds of the vote in the confirmation of that.
Also, I don't know if I have the clip, but a young man followed... Do we have the clip?
Can I play that clip for a second?
I think it's B-roll.
Can we play that clip for a second?
a young man following Royce White into the court with a t-shirt?
So for our radio and podcast audience, a young man follows Royce White out on the court.
He's got Christ is King on the t-shirt.
How did that go down?
Who is that young man, and how did that play in Oak Town?
royce white
That's Little Royce.
We call him Little Royce, but he's probably going to be taller than me here shortly.
He's my oldest son, and that was actually last season in Tampa Bay.
No, I'm sorry, not last season, the season before.
That's from two seasons ago.
And people loved it.
I mean, we ended up losing that game in the championship.
We were in the championship that season and we ended up losing in the championship.
But people said that we won the day because of that shirt and this sort of rejection of Christ.
Look, everybody doesn't have to believe in Christ.
My faith and scripture tells me that many people will doubt.
And that's fine.
That's part of the journey.
In the end, every knee will bow, every tongue will confess.
But what we're not going to do is hide.
We're done hiding.
We're done taking a back step.
I'm not afraid, my son's not afraid, and that's what faith is really all about.
steve bannon
I want to talk about, we got a special this week, and I hope we continue going forward.
Big 3 basketball, which Royce is one of the stars, is going to be in Tampa this Saturday.
They bring all the teams together.
Captain Bannon, are you up?
We have a special, Mo, I think it's 25% off a ticket to see Royce White and these great patriots of the Big 3 basketball league in Tampa this Saturday?
maureen bannon
We do.
If you go to big3.com slash tickets, it's promo code war room and it's 25% off and they will be, like you said, in Tampa at the Yingling Center this weekend.
So make sure to go out and support Royce and help his team win a championship and a Senate race.
And not only will you get to see Royce play, but I will also be in attendance.
So you'll get to see me as well.
steve bannon
So we want a big posse turnout, Mo.
You'll be putting out stuff during the week.
Big 3 basketball.
Where do people go again, Mo?
You can go to big3.com and it's promo code war room and you get 25% off your tickets.
And there'll be six games throughout the day here in Tampa.
maureen bannon
a big three, big, the number three.com slash tickets and it's promo code war room and you
get 25% off your tickets and there'll be six games throughout the day.
Um, here in Tampa this Saturday, June 22nd center.
steve bannon
We want a big, uh, we want a big war room cheering section, not just for Royce, but
the other stars there.
Royce, how do you juggle running for the United States Senate and being a star of a league that gets a little physical on occasions, sir?
royce white
You do it poorly.
There's not a real good way to do that.
But the moment in this nation's history calls for it.
Nonetheless, I was proud.
To wear Free Trump on the side of my head.
I do think what's happening is absolutely tyrannical and fundamentally un-American and it should be a cautionary tale for every citizen no matter their politics.
And I had the stage to do that because I was in the big three.
And I think over a million people have seen it now.
And obviously the left is crying that I'm crazy and whatever else.
But none of that matters anymore.
I mean, none of that matters.
I had to run for United States Senate because Amy Klobuchar is an absolute shill for Joe Biden, despite her being a warmongering neocon.
And she is a neocon.
Don't even call her a Democrat.
She's a neocon.
And I definitely had to honor my commitment to play with my teammates in the Big Three, and both things are possible.
We got a great campaign here in Minnesota.
We're going to give Amy the fight of her life.
We're going to keep running back the clip where she says that Joe Biden is as mentally fit as he's been in recent memory.
We're going to play it into the cows, come home, and let's see if the Democrats really want to vote.
Party or not.
But I know some people in the middle who are already jumping ship, and obviously the people who know Donald Trump was wrongfully convicted are going to be on the right side of things come November.
steve bannon
Royce, where do people go for your podcast, radio show, all your content, and all your social media?
royce white
RoyceWhite.us, that's the campaign website.
You can watch Please Call Me Crazy on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and also on Real America's Voice Saturday morning, The Royce White Show, before You, Steve, the great one.
steve bannon
It's the lead-in.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
Captain Bannon, with social media, we want a big turnout this week to support Royce and the team.
All those teams, six games in Tampa.
Where do people go to get you, ma'am?
maureen bannon
They can go to Twitter and get her at Maureen underscore Bannon and also on Instagram at real Maureen Bannon.
I'll be posting throughout the week and I'll be posting from the games at the big three.
And once again, that's big three, big number three dot com slash tickets promo code war room for 25% off and let's have a big contingency of the war room posse.
steve bannon
We had a massive contingency at the convention.
Let's have a big one here.
It'll be fun.
Be another time to share camaraderie.
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the great Charlie Spearing next in the house.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Okay, I'm honored to have Charlie Spearing in the house.
Charlie and I worked together for many years at Breitbart, and I know Charlie and I know his reporting.
And Charlie Spearing is a guy that's well sourced and grinds it out.
There's no games with his reporting.
That's why as soon as I saw the story, the lead story in the Daily Mail yesterday, But then when I checked the byline, I go, man, this thing is real.
So I want to pull, but let's get the headline.
Just walk us through this story as you have it today, right?
The one you published yesterday, exclusive.
There's a plan out there.
They're jiggy on Biden because of the polling.
It's obviously a disaster.
charlie spiering
Yeah, I call it the great Joe Biden replacement theory.
It's something the Democratic Party has been fighting for so long, for months and months, and it's only getting worse.
As they get closer and closer to the election, they realize that a huge portion of their voters still believe that Joe Biden will be replaced at some point.
And so a lot of Democrats behind the scenes are complaining.
We know this.
They're just out there complaining behind the scenes.
Democrats are telling each other, top Democrats are sending the message.
That stop complaining.
Don't you dare go public.
Don't be calling for a replacement until we're ready.
And you know, if Joe Biden is unable to serve, then we hope that he and his family will do the right thing.
And if he doesn't, then we're going to act.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
I've stayed away from this story for months because people have been talking about it.
I said, it's all conversation until I see something real.
And I saw your story.
So I want to hit rewind for a second.
Are the top Democrats nervous that he just can't deliver a win here?
And they see it from their coalition, starting to face the under-20s, under-29-year-old collapse.
You just saw Harry Enten, we played it three times, so sorry about the blight on Harry Enten's head blowing up in the black community.
You now have Hispanics, 53% want mass deportations, he's trying to do the amnesty overnight.
Every one of their core demographics There's a huge part of that that's just running away from them, as Harry Enten says.
Is that what's driven the factions that really control the Clintons, the Obamas, the Pelosi factions, these factions that are savvy and do their own polling, have seen what's happening here and now they can't deny it?
charlie spiering
Yeah, I talked to a lot of Democrats for about a month.
And, you know, a month ago, they weren't very concerned.
You know, they still were towing the line.
And as the time gets closer and closer, there's more and more concerns within the party.
That's part of the reason why the Democratic Party moved up this debate to June.
They want to get it up ahead in advance.
They want to get people out there.
They want to get Biden out there.
They want to prove that he can at least fully complete a debate.
Look, his guys are out there right now already predicting that he's going to lose.
Obama's people are lowering the bar.
Exactly.
They're saying Joe Biden's going to lose the first debate.
The incumbent president always loses the first debate.
They point to Obama.
Remember when Obama first debated Romney?
Well, it was considered a huge loss for Obama.
And so, you know, Democrats are out there right now saying if Trump shows up, Biden
won't win because the incumbent president never wins.
So they're setting the bar really low for Biden.
But at the same time, they want him on stage.
They want him to complete a debate because they want to convince their voters that this is the big test.
If he can complete a debate, no one should be afraid.
No one should be doing the replacement.
But behind the scenes, there's still a plan for replacement if he makes a major, major gap during this debate or can't complete, you know, can't even finish the debate or has a major brain freeze moment, which is quite possible.
steve bannon
Your sourcing of this has come from your years.
You wrote the Kamala Harris book.
Right.
You got to know the Democratic Party and Democratic consultants particularly.
You're very well sourced since you've gotten to the Daily Mail, just because people are saying, I want to make sure people know that when the Daily Mail puts this up as an exclusion of the lead, they're sending a signal.
This is real.
We've checked this.
We validate this.
Because a lot of people on the right have been talking about this for months and months and months.
But this is the first thing that came out of with Democratic sourcing.
charlie spiering
Yeah, Democrats are privately very concerned about Biden and they're also very concerned about Kamala Harris.
The same ones I talked to for the book are also very concerned about Kamala Harris because they don't think that Kamala can step in and take his place.
And this is something that behind the scenes, this is something the party talks about.
They will not talk about it in public because they don't want to be branded as You know, racist, sexist, and also now ageist, right?
With Biden.
They just don't want to be on the wrong side, and very few Democrats are saying anything publicly at this point.
steve bannon
You mention in here, you get into the different factions, particularly the Obama, Pelosi, and Clintons, that it's like the Chinese Communist Party.
These family factions control it, and they don't love each other.
In fact, a lot of times they can't stand each other.
You were very particular about the Obamas, because A lot of this got driven here on this show when we played it yesterday about the clips.
I said what he did in France, what he did at Normandy, what he did with Macron, what he rubbed in the head of the Pope.
The G7 was a disaster.
He freezes.
They've got that.
The clip from the Juneteenth celebration, which the press secretary is saying is a fake video.
Yeah, cheap fake.
Cheap fake.
And then his freezing on the stage where Obama has to come over like you would go over to your grandfather and gently, with the hands down, right?
You were very specific in this piece, and everybody, if Mo and Grace can push this out, I need everybody to read it, and more important, I need all the force multipliers to share it.
Charlie Spearing at the Daily Mail.
You were very specific that there's no love lost between the Obamas and Biden, and particularly there's no love lost between Michelle Obama and Joe Biden.
unidentified
Right.
charlie spiering
Michelle Obama is not a huge fan of the Bidens.
There's no personal connection there.
Sure, she's friendly, but there's a big reason why they're keeping her out of sight and why she's keeping out of sight.
She does not want to be with the Bidens and she doesn't... There's two factions.
She doesn't want to be with the Bidens.
Number two, she doesn't want to be anywhere near the White House because she knows the moment she does, that's when the base starts raising their eyes and being like, why can't we have Michelle as our candidate instead of Joe?
So that's why Michelle has essentially gone into hiding at this point.
steve bannon
Walk through the mechanics.
You use your book as a reference.
You talk about there's major big power players, the big donors, consultants, advisors that are now jiggy and are thinking we may have to make a move.
And how do we do that?
You then make the case that Kamala Harris is not an automatic step up.
Because her numbers are worse than Biden's.
And not just that, she can't own the space.
She can't step up and own a debate with Trump.
Where do you go from there?
You know, you got Whitmer, you got Newsom, but everybody's gonna immediately pivot to Michelle Obama.
Am I wrong on that?
charlie spiering
I think that right now Democrats have effectively shut down the Michelle Obama solution.
That's the problem though because there's so many different factions with so many different choices that want their picks.
And when these ideas are backed by donors, donors are going to come out and say which candidate they want.
So there's no candidate selected at this point.
But what it's going to take, it's going to take a Nancy Pelosi, a Chuck Schumer, a Bill
Clinton and a Chuck Schumer, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, all four of them united together
and come to Joe Biden and say, time to step down.
steve bannon
The people you're talking to, those factions, including Schumer, are going to have to have
a united front and come to Biden.
It's like Ava Vigoda in The Godfather, right?
That guy who brings the messages.
So they're going to have to have a united front.
charlie spiering
Pelosi is a key figure in this because Pelosi is 100% behind Joe Biden at this point.
Pelosi is 83.
She views Joe Biden as a kid.
That's what she said publicly.
She's 100% in Biden's camp right now.
Obama, as he demonstrated on the stage, clearly has his concerns.
Bill Clinton, he's not necessarily wed to one side or the other.
And Schumer is going to do whatever That's the way the Democratic Party works.
It's a very top-down party.
There's not going to be any sort of grassroots revolt to demand a replacement.
It's going to be top-down.
steve bannon
Your belief is that it will take a debate performance next week where President Trump demonstrably beats Joe Biden.
That's when they break the glass and something has to happen?
charlie spiering
Right, like Biden can even lose the debate, which is what they're setting up.
But if it's a disaster debate, if it's more, if it's a clear agent moment for Joe Biden on the debate stage, then that's when they pull, that's when they pull the trigger and start.
Or, you know, that's when they start having tough conversations with Jill Biden, the caretaker, Dr. Jill.
steve bannon
Because she's a key player here.
Right, absolutely.
She would have to be on board.
Right.
As the Daily Mail looks at it, you guys put up a lot of analysis of other people's polls, but I think you also do your own polling.
And as you see it right now, where do you put this as far as polling goes and crosstabs and groups as you see nationally and in the battleground states?
charlie spiering
Well, absolutely.
The polls show, you know, a slight edge for Trump at this point.
And if Trump performs at this debate and succeeds, then he's absolutely got a chance to sort of bring even more people behind him.
Look, for two weeks he's been uniting the party.
He's even got Mitch on board.
Maybe not a Paul Ryan on board, but what power does he have, right?
So he's got all the Republican power players on board backing him.
There's no sort of secret revolt that, you know, you experienced in the 2016 race.
So I think that he's really attacking this with a united front, and he's really only going to go up from here.
steve bannon
No, you think he's only going to go up because he's bringing the party together.
And you'll see those Never Trump numbers, the 14 or 15 percent will start to collapse.
People will come home from Kennedy, only the hardcore.
charlie spiering
Can he get out there and pick off enough independents?
It's the race for independents.
And look, what he's doing in minority communities is huge.
He's very smart to attack those communities.
It's showing in the polling that he's having success there.
But he's also got to work to do the independents, as we've talked about.
Who he picks for vice president, how he does in the debate, does he come off as a jerk or does he come off as somebody who's learned some things and knows how to play politics?
steve bannon
What about when he gets sentenced to prison on the 11th of July?
charlie spiering
Yeah absolutely.
steve bannon
Is that a wild card still?
charlie spiering
I think that it still only helps him at this point.
I think that most people, especially his supporters and most Republicans who even are not fans of Trump, see what's happening to the justice system in our country and are reacting accordingly.
I think that a lot more independents are going to realize that it's something more than just
a candidate here.
This is about the future of our country and the future of democracy, which, wait, those
are the words that only Democrats talk about, but I think you're going to hear a lot of
Republicans saying that going forward, is that this is not just another election with
a flawed candidate.
This is an election where democracy is at stake.
This is how Republicans talk, too, as well as Democrats.
So the stakes have been raised, certainly, on that side.
steve bannon
I got a couple minutes before you go.
The great Charlie Spearing from Daily Mail is here, their senior political reporter.
What's the incentive for the Trump campaign to have this debate?
Right?
He is winning right now.
He's got momentum.
Clearly Biden needs to get on stage with him to prove to his people to not just stick around, but also to energize them.
If Trump beats him, that will drive the replacement.
Trump knows he can beat this guy.
Why would he want to, even with the potential of Michelle Obama, which I realize you say that's not going to happen, but any other replacement would also be, I think, even more disastrous.
Because Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom are known in the war room and by our policy, but they have no resonance in the United States of America.
Nobody knows who they speak to.
charlie spiering
Yeah, that's why a lot of Democrats would kind of cling to this idea.
And there was a time political columnists that kind of cling to this idea that if you have this figure that can come in, deliver a barn burning speech and have the support.
steve bannon
Joe Klein.
charlie spiering
Yeah, Joe Klein.
He was the one that wrote that.
If you just give one good speech like Obama did in 2004, he can rally the party and bring this thing home.
And if you have all four Democratic power players backing him up, is that possible?
Maybe people, you know, there's still a lot of people from the Obama years that like to believe that a second Obama can come in and save the day.
steve bannon
The stakes then can't be higher for this debate next week.
Charlie, where do people go to get your book on Kamala?
And where do they go to get your Daily Mail, social media, all of it?
charlie spiering
Yeah, Charlie Spearing on X and on Truth Social and on Instagram and also buy the book at Simon & Schuster or Amazon or anywhere else books are sold.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
Back at Breitbart in the old days, we had Spearing, we had Matt Boyle, we had the great Tony Lee, we had Joel Pollack, we had Alex Marlow.
I mean, what a team.
And many, many more.
unidentified
Many.
steve bannon
It was just incredible.
Incredible.
Over the Daily Mail, a major site.
And that story yesterday, being the exclusive and the top of it, just couldn't have been more important.
And I think it's going to get a lot more reading over this weekend.
I think it'll be a big talk at the Sunday show as those factions come together.
charlie spiering
It's something people are already talking about, and that's why we're doing the reporting behind it.
steve bannon
Are you going to, is there any follow-up we can expect here before the... Absolutely.
charlie spiering
We'll keep our ear to the ground and see if anything moves.
steve bannon
Charlie Sparing, always an honor to have you in here.
charlie spiering
Great to see you again, Steve.
steve bannon
Glad to see the Breitbart alumni ever up, ever forward.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Batt.
steve bannon
I told you, yesterday the 17th was the day, Monday the 17th was the day of the defeat of Joe Biden.
You just heard from Charlie Spearing.
They're actively thinking through alternatives.
That's not, and Trump's bringing everybody together.
Right?
Trump's bringing everybody together.
They're in total disarray because they know they're losing and it's only going to get worse.
This is why now more than ever we've got to maniacally focus on this, on bringing folks together.
And I realize it's a, you know, everybody in the landing craft, or maybe not the besties, some of the guys we see come on board, but hey, it is what it is to win.
And President Trump's bringing it together.
We've got to drive this.
We have to drive to victory.
Without, there's nothing but victory.
It's either victory or nothing.
You lose the country if you don't win.
Chris Hoare is with us.
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unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Can adults also use this?
Because, I mean, in places like LA, Chicago, New York right now, I mean, you got another thing.
The New York Post had another incredible story about just lawlessness and crime in New York.
Is this acceptable for adults also?
chris hoar
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And look, I mean, you see these fancy backpacks for $300-$400 at some of these sporting goods stores, but they don't give you any kind of protection.
This, as I say, can stop any handgun up to a .44 Magnum, and it can give you an edge.
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steve bannon
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Where do people go, Chris, one more time?
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Thank you, brother.
Chris, thank you for giving these specials to the War Impostors.
I appreciate it.
chris hoar
Thanks, Stephen.
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