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Episode 3676: Right Wing Dominance In Europe Foreshadows November Election In US
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raheem kassam
There's only probably one thing that you might dislike in this poll, and that's that 72% of people say they do not want Donald Trump to seek retribution in a second term.
steve bannon
Well, you know, it's not retribution, it's called justice.
If he asks for retribution, nobody wants retribution.
We just want justice.
raheem kassam
I do.
steve bannon
Last thing, Rahim, this is why, well, maybe a tiny bit, small r.
Okay, the Biden-Harris campaign, which is all over War Room, they do a clip, it looks like every day.
Rahim and Max Evans over at Getter did a great remix, we'll try to play it later.
Rahim, why are they so maniacally focused on this show, and particularly the fact that people are standing up to the fact that it's just not going to go, when we win, In November, it's just not going to go back to normal that they have committed tremendous crimes.
And we're going to use the Constitution, the rule of law, and as we keep saying, this is why we just want the House to adjudicate stuff, but the legal system to make sure that this can never happen again.
Why does that freak them out?
And why do they think that's sellable?
Because right now their democracy thing's not sellable, their J6 thing's not sellable.
None of it's sellable because people look at their lived experience and they look how out of control this apparatus is, sir.
raheem kassam
Well, since I was talking about Boris Johnson in the last segment, allow me to quote Boris Johnson to greet the Biden-Harris clips they-them who is watching this right now, the great supine invertebrate protoplasmic intern that they've got over there who has to watch this show every day.
They might learn something.
Who knows?
Maybe we'll get a convert inside.
By the way, we're always looking for tipsters if you're listening.
Have you got some whistles to blow from inside the campaign?
Feel free to reach out, we'll keep you totally anonymous, my friend, I promise you.
unidentified
No judgement here, okay, over your lifestyle choices.
raheem kassam
Listen, this raises... I've had so many people reach out to me over the last couple of hours, yesterday night as well.
about this clip, about how the Biden-Harris campaign pulled this clip, but most notably, right, they picked up on that word, retribution, and said, listen, if that question were asked in a different way in that poll, you would get a 100 percent, a 180 degree different answer on that.
You know, if you said, if you didn't use the word retribution, and you use the word like you did, right, you say justice, Or accountability, or anything like that.
I guarantee you, you would have had 72% in agreement, saying that is what we want, that is what the American public should get.
And it goes to show you how these polls work, especially how these kind of push polls push people in certain directions to how they answer certain questions.
So, I think they're freaking out.
unidentified
I think they're having a daily freakout every day over there.
They're looking at what isn't working, they're looking at basically everything, right?
raheem kassam
And it's not just everything that they're doing.
It's everything that their apparatus is supposed to be doing, too.
You look at the decline and impending fall of the Washington Post as a prime example of this.
You know, democracy dies in darkness.
We're going to have all these activists out there.
You've got Taylor Lawrence doing TikToks and all of this stuff.
I mean, it's on a complete hiding to nowhere.
They understand that, as you say, the famous quote, the American public have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
No, 50% drop in readership over at WAPO.
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steve bannon
Thanks, Steve.
Thank you, brother.
I've got the great Matt Boyle joins us now.
Raheem used to be London, Matt Boyle's national political editor, still national political editor of Breitbart, and an extraordinary talent, our greatest reporter in MAGA joins us.
Also, Matt Boyle's going to be in Detroit and be part of the show live, hopefully on Friday, right?
The great Matt Boyle.
Matt Boyle joins us.
Matt, we'll get into all the politics and In the details of that on Friday, later in the week, but I got to go to an extraordinary piece you wrote about the European parliamentary elections and what did happen at the national level.
And now this morning, Steve Collinson, the smartest guy at CNN, he's up there saying, hey, is this reverberation?
Is this Brexit again?
Are we going back to 2016?
Is Europe in the rise of the right, particularly Alternative for Deutschland, what happened in Germany, and particularly what happened in France.
Is this a foreshadowing of a big landslide, tectonic plate shift in November?
Your article is amazing.
Can you walk our audience through it, sir?
matthew boyle
Yeah, look, I think it might actually be bigger than Brexit was in 2016.
I don't know.
Well, time will tell, right?
So we'll see when November rolls around.
But the big thing is that if you look at the horse race polls and And what not.
Trump leads across the board, right?
He leads national polls.
He leads, or it's tight, right?
Like it's inside the margin of error.
He leads in all the battleground states.
In 2016, you remember this Steve, there were hardly any polls that showed Trump in the lead and he ended up winning, right?
unidentified
Like, um, one of the, Oh, I remember.
steve bannon
I remember.
Do I remember?
matthew boyle
We knew Trump was going to win in the lead up to it.
It was the issues, right?
So if you look at the issue-based polls, look at questions on immigration, look at questions on trade, questions on the economy, et cetera, and you look at those numbers rather than, because people don't like to tell the pollster they're voting for Trump, right?
The hardcore, your war room posse regular viewers, the Breitbart readers, they have no problem telling the pollster they're voting for Trump, right?
The bag of hat-wearing folks, The middle of the road people in some of these battleground states, they might not tell anybody they're gonna vote for Trump, but they stand with Trump on immigration.
They stand with Trump on the economy.
They stand with Trump on trade.
And the tell is, if you look at the issue polls, so like this weekend, we saw a CBS News poll that showed Trump and Biden virtually tied, right?
It has Trump at 50, Biden at 49.
This is done entirely after the sham New York trial against Trump.
And so that's all baked into the numbers.
But then, so okay, horse race poll nationally, tied.
But look at the issues that they questioned.
The immigration, the deportation, they asked people, do you support a national program to deport every illegal alien in America?
Massive majority, it's more than 60% of Americans say yes, including a majority of Hispanic Americans.
So if you look at that, You pull those issue polls together with what we're seeing out of these election results overseas across Europe, one can surmise here that there may be a global movement against globalism that's really coming together in much the same way that Brexit foreshadowed Donald Trump's victory in 2016.
I think that, look at other issue polls.
There's an Associated Press poll out today asking people, Uh, where do people stand on Joe Biden's student loan program, right?
All the actions that he's taken on that.
Only 30% said they support him.
40% said they're opposed.
And 30 something percent say they're, uh, they're unsure.
But the fact is, is that across the board, what we're seeing is a massive disagreement with Biden and the globalist establishment on the issues.
And so people may be a little bit afraid to tell the pollsters they're going to vote for Trump.
When it comes to the issues and when it comes to etc.
Then we're seeing that and we're seeing that in the broader election results across the board.
steve bannon
I want to go back to what you said at first because in 16, remember, we seconded Rahim really got involved in the whole Brexit fight with Nigel.
You and Alex Marlowe really had to take up and pick up the slack of overseeing also the international political coverage, particularly UK.
Explain this to me.
The reason you said this actually may be more important what happened Is that in 16, it was one nation, obviously our mother country, some of you were very close to our most important ally, but that was about their sovereignty.
And it was a vote on their sovereignty and getting their sovereignty back.
Also about immigration because that was the big issue that Nigel Farage led with.
Here, you're saying, hey, that was important, but that was one country.
And that was Trump's big issue then, the decline by our elites, the managed decline of the country, losing our sovereignty and immigration.
But now you're saying if you look at the number one thing that drove this across the border, particularly the blowout in France and leading Macron to dissolve parliament, and in Germany with the leading anti-immigration, you're saying across an entire continent, With 350 million eligible voters, this issue was the number one issue and brought down a couple of the most powerful governments in the world.
You're saying if you look at that and consider the issue set that's here, you're saying, hey, this could be even bigger and could really be a blowout.
Is that your thinking about why this one may be more important than even Brexit?
matthew boyle
Yes.
And also Donald Trump is actually leading in many of the polls this time.
Right?
Like, so he's up, but it's inside the margin of error in a lot of the battleground states.
But I, my guess here is, is that Trump is actually a lot better off than the numbers would even pretend.
And the tell is those, those issue questions, right?
Like, and again, the issues that we saw play out across Europe and the major issues again, being immigration, first and foremost, war being a very close second.
Right, like people are very tired of the globalist elite with regard to war, right?
Like you see this in the Middle East right now with Israel and Hamas.
You see this in Ukraine, with Ukraine and Russia.
And especially across Europe, but even here across the United States, people are questioning why we're spending tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars on all these foreign wars.
And this was a huge part of the 2016 election.
I look back at 2016 and I always tell people, I think the moment Donald Trump won the 2016 election was way back in the Republican primary during a debate where he, in South Carolina, if you remember this, he was arguing with Jeb Bush and they brought in George Bush into the audience, right?
And Donald Trump just totally dressed down the Bush family with regard to Iraq.
And really led into them over it.
And it was the moment, I think, that Donald Trump really took control of the Republican Party.
He's never given it up since.
He's never looked back since.
But it was such a powerful moment because Trump was running against multiple different dynasties.
Similar type of a thing going on this year, but again, perhaps even more profound.
Again, we'll have to wait and see the actual election results in November.
I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves here.
The things are looking very good.
steve bannon
So I got to tell another Matt Boyle story.
So in that in the South Carolina, remember, it was the cheer from the audience that shocked people, right?
I mean, Trump goes all in about Iraq being a failure and pointing to Bush and then playing his family with the other presidents in the audience saying, this is a failure.
You're a failure.
These forever wars, you know, and the audience is going nuts in support and the moderators, the Bush.
So, Matt Boyle was still on, I think you were on, getting on the Bush, after you got blown out in South Carolina, you were getting on the Bush thing in Florida.
Matt, as you know, he and the great Tony Lee were the tip of the spear in the Megyn Kelly fiasco, the other important part of those debates, the lead off.
And then later, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't we have you actually on the campaign bus in Florida after you'd done those great write-ups?
unidentified
South Carolina.
steve bannon
How did that play out?
How did that play out given the fact that Breitbart was known as kind of a, I would say this, a neutral but Trump leaning side at the time?
Why was, I say that facetiously, we were very pro-Trump and Matt was the tip of the spear.
How did that go down, you sitting on the campaign bus getting ready for a big interview?
matthew boyle
It was pretty, it was pretty funny.
So like, look, I mean, I obviously would reach out to all the different candidates, right?
Like, and I will have a conversation with anybody about the issues.
So one of the things that we did was during the 2016 race, and Jeb Bush was one of the only ones who wouldn't do a sit down with us.
And so he finally, once he realizes he got smoked in that debate, I remember talking with several of his campaign advisors.
I was like, guys, if you want to do an issue based interview, I'll let him say his piece, right?
Like, and I remember doing it.
It was after some speech he did with Lindsey Graham.
If you remember, Lindsey Graham was still campaigning with Jeb Bush.
He hadn't moved over to Ted Cruz and then eventually Trump yet.
So Lindsey Graham and him did some big town hall or something in northern South Carolina.
I think it was in Rock Hill, right, about an hour south of Charlotte.
steve bannon
Matt, hang on one second.
We gotta take a break.
I got it.
This story is a classic.
Another Matt Boyle classic.
Short break.
Matt Bull on the other side.
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Matt and I just want to give some context we were we were despised and loathed by the Bush family and the Bush
campaign Matt Bohr, who's a very even-handed affair guy, although, you know, we didn't make any bones about it.
We were huge Trump supporters, but you were very even-handed.
Just no way.
They would spit on the floor at the mention of Breitbart, but finally getting smoked and getting blown up by Trump in that debate, they finally open up and campaigning with Lindsey Graham right in South Carolina and understanding that they can't get smoked in South Carolina because Florida, I think, is next.
They throw the long ball, and they agree to have Matt Bull have a big interview.
Sir, take it from there.
matthew boyle
Yeah, so it's after this event with Lindsey Graham, and so I get on the campaign bus, right?
I'm waiting outside the campaign bus for Jeb and Lindsey to come out, and then once they get on the bus, then the staffer takes me onto the bus.
Two of them are waiting at the back of the bus, and along the way, on the way through the entire Jeb Bush campaign bus, One person after another of people that we've written articles about at Breitbart the entire course of the campaign.
And they're all, you know, shaking hands, being nice or whatever.
And so it's like kind of almost like a victory tour as I'm walking through the campaign bus all the way to the final.
And, you know, there's this consultant, that consultant.
I think Jeb Bush's wife was on the campaign bus.
And I think we had done an article about her.
It was quite an experience.
And then we finally get to the back of the bus and there's Jeb Bush and Lindsey Graham.
Sitting there waiting for me.
And I remember, I'll never forget it.
Lindsey Graham gave me a fist bump right before I started the interview.
And then, you know, I sat there and asked my questions to Jeb Bush.
I got off and wrote the interview up.
I think we broadcast it on the radio, too.
It was very policy focused.
And by the way, Jeb Bush, very smart guy, right?
Like, I'm not going to take that away from him.
But he was very out of touch with people.
I think he would go on to lose South Carolina The next week and then drop out of the race that night.
So it was, uh, it was quite an experience.
steve bannon
Please.
matthew boyle
Yeah.
steve bannon
Never, never, never made it.
I don't think you ever made it to Florida.
Please clap.
Um, Matt, before we see you in Detroit, uh, and you're going to be a guest on our live show.
And of course you're going to talk about, you got your show you're doing on Saturday morning at Breitbart news radio Saturday.
Um, Of which you took the place of a great anchor they had there before.
I heard.
Thursday is a very big day that you've talked about a lot.
President Trump's returning to the Capitol.
Now he's got the business roundtable meeting.
But I think even more importantly is that they've now announced this.
I think that they just put a big announcement of the he's going to meet with the House and he's going to meet with the Senate.
Your thoughts.
Can you give us a preview about how important that meeting is?
matthew boyle
Well look, I think Trump is somebody who's always had, because he's a political outsider, he's not an insider in Washington, he never was, he's always had a A love-hate relationship, even with the Republicans on Capitol Hill.
And so seeing how he navigates these relationships that he has with Republicans on Capitol Hill, and if he's able to get someone who would be an effective champion for his agenda, should he win the election in November, is going to be important.
If Republicans hold the House of Representatives and retake the U.S.
Senate, along with Trump being Back in the White House, he's going to need an effective speaker.
I don't think you have that right now in Mike Johnson.
And I don't think you have an effective Republican leader in the Senate in Mitch McConnell.
Of course, McConnell has announced that he's not running for leader again.
He's still staying in the Senate after the election.
So those questions of who will be the Speaker of the House, who will be the Republican leader in the Senate, are going to be very important because Trump, assuming he wins this Assuming the Republicans hold the House and take the Senate as part of this heading into November, Trump's going to need effective leaders in governing partners, people that are actually partners on effectuating the MAGA agenda.
Of having a terrible speaker in Paul Ryan at the beginning of the last go around of Trump's first term.
Two years wasted, right?
And so we're gonna need to figure this out quickly.
And so I think looking to see how Trump approaches that is gonna be important.
steve bannon
Yeah, the thing about Ryan too is he didn't really have a, you know, they were so convinced they could repeal and replace Obamacare, this thing they lived for, they had such a, didn't understand where the country was, never understood Trump, but quite frankly didn't even understand really Capitol Hill that much.
I mean, they had been out of power and just really had just totally missed the plot here in Trump's first two years.
And then turn it over to Nancy Pelosi.
Matt, where do people get you for the radio show, for all your writings, Breitbart, all of it?
matthew boyle
Yes, Breitbart News Saturday is on SiriusXM 125, the Patreon channel, 10am to 1pm Eastern on Saturday mornings.
Also just go to Breitbart.com and I'm also on True Social at Real Matt Boyle on True Social, so I post there.
I don't do the Twitter anymore, so I do the True Social.
steve bannon
We weaned you off Twitter, because remember, Andrew Breitbart was the king of Twitter before he passed away.
Then we weaned you off Twitter in what, 2014, 15, 16?
When was it?
I think it was 2016.
matthew boyle
It was right around the Republican primary.
unidentified
I think I was a little critical of Jeff Gorshner in those tweets.
matthew boyle
A little bit critical of Jeff.
steve bannon
You've been a better, you've been a better man, you've been a better man for it, sir.
Matt Boyle, the best reporter out there following all things MAGA.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you, brother.
matthew boyle
See you in Detroit.
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I want to bring in back Ben Harnwell.
Ben, your overview of connecting The tectonic plate shift.
You saw Matt's article.
CNN's got us the lead story.
The whole Guardian.
They're all melting down because they understand what happened over the weekend, particularly when the European parliamentary elections have an impact on national, big national governments.
They were not prepared for that.
And they're now connecting dots.
And they think in their heart of hearts, this could be bigger than the Brexit 2016 connection.
Your thoughts, sir.
ben harnwell
Well, coming back to what Matt was saying about polls and how people can occasionally be dishonest to pollsters when asked about voting intention, I'd like to suggest something when it comes to these populist nationalist movements.
And I'd like to suggest that we think of these phenomena, these various phenomena that are different.
across their various national iterations.
In terms of concentric circles, you have at the very centre, the core of this movement, the immigration issue.
That is the issue that has fundamentally been the motor of all the success that we've seen over, say, the last 10 years.
That's driven these parties from literally fractions of a percent to 10 percent to now around about 25% across the European Union.
Moving outwards of that concentric circle to the next level, perhaps.
I think this is where we're going to start absorbing people from the EPP and the centre-right and the Christian Democrats over, say, the next five years or the next mandate of this European Parliament.
You're going to have people who are dissatisfied with the way things are.
This is something that you were suggesting earlier.
Matt himself alluded to it.
And I think it comes to how people self-identify themselves in terms of their political allegiance.
Now, you take the 25 percent, which has as its core the immigration point, then you come on with the fact that people's standards of living are going down again for the reasons that was discussed in the previous segment, the warmongering amongst sociopathic overlords.
Then you're going to have more people coming into this movement sort of Building themselves onto this movement as time goes forward.
That's what we were saying yesterday about there being undercurrent from the left of the spectrum, pulling people along to the right party by party, one shift at a time and one election cycle by time.
So I think many people, if you ask them about the issues that they're concerned about, Even though, for example, they might even not be obsessed by immigration.
It's possible that the immigration issue at present levels might be stable at around 25 percent.
The next growth to 50 percent, or as you're saying in the United States, two-thirds of the country is potentially immigrant.
This is when you move out and you really hammer into the fact.
That outside of the immigration issue, that the rest of the territory that this movement is going to gain, not only in America but around the world, that's going to be with the dissatisfaction with the present establishment, official centre-right political formulations that are, Steve, solely performative.
And it's the anger that people are going to feel when they realize that their quality of life is going down that's going to bring people in and around this movement.
And I think the polls will be reflecting that as we move forward.
Absolutely.
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MTG talked about it earlier when she mentioned the bricks of what's happening there and that's the Global South.
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Ben Harnwell, I just want to go before the, the, what you've done, right, in reporting
and being ahead of the curve over there in Europe, we knew from the beginning was going to have a direct,
because I did this in 16, that has a direct implication, because you can kind of see things move
in kind of the same way, particularly when they're around the same issues.
The, as you call them, the sociopathic overlords didn't really look the other way on mass migration
or immigration in Europe.
They exacerbated it.
And Biden took that as a model.
People should not miss the plot here.
That Biden looked at Merkel.
Biden looked at what was happening in Europe.
And they took that as a model to come in after Trump, after everything we did to secure the border, everything we did with ICE, everything we did with deportations, everything we did with making sure we could secure the border.
Biden took the lessons of Europe Took them to the 10th power and came here and now that's why, you know, he's got this performative EO that's not working.
They understand that immigration or mass migration, I call it the invasion, illegal alien invasion of our southern border, is the topic because people can see it in their lives.
In fact, when we did We Build the Wall, one of the marketing hooks we put to after we built those elements, the wall we built, was that we're the first ones to come up with it.
Every town a border town, every state a border state.
In fact, we went to Cincinnati and Detroit and other places around the country to talk about exactly this topic.
And every time we went, people were absolutely mesmerized.
And that was back in 2018, 2019.
Well before Biden came in and what he did on the southern border.
And I got to tell you, as much as they try to throw the performative executive orders up, I believe it's exactly analogous to the performative nature of what the European leaders Right.
The party of Davos have done.
And this is why you have Trump on a roll.
This is why you have Nigel Farage.
This has been Nigel Farage's number one issue.
This is what he really, you know, Boris Johnson went with the, oh, Brussels has all the laws and we can't make our, you know, we're not sovereign.
Farage cut right to the chase with those huge billboards about mass illegal immigration.
Your thoughts, sir.
ben harnwell
Well, look, we call them sociopathic overlords, right?
One of the characteristics of sociopaths is that they have no empathy.
It's a literal condition.
It's not just acute insults we throw out on the one.
It's a literal condition of sociopathy.
And these people are sociopaths.
No empathy.
And so that because they have no empathy, there's no real sort of emotional connection with other normal people.
And you get that a bit in what Matt Boyle was saying with his interview with Low Energy Jeb, Jeb exclamation mark.
He's a very smart guy, totally out of touch.
And that's at the good end of the spectrum.
Because when you come to Europe and you look at people like Angela Merkel, or more specifically Ursula von der Leyen, who I really actually think is a genuine, straight up clinical sociopath.
Like Joe Biden, you have to be a sociopath to be able to send people to go and die in a war and feel nothing, driven by this insatiable urge to appear in front of television cameras as some kind of morally superior being.
No normal person could do that.
These people are sociopaths.
And that's the point.
They're out of touch.
They have no idea what ordinary lives are like.
They have no idea what real people are thinking, their fears and their aspirations.
And they just listen to themselves.
And they do think, Steve, that they are morally superior beings.
They're narcissists.
So obviously they are only obsessed by themselves and attracting the attention of others.
And that's their weakness.
That's their vulnerability.
Gives them a certain strength in certain conditions, strength to do what?
To get to the top of the greasy pole of politics.
Very few normal people would really want to do that.
I think the exception would perhaps, in the present generation, someone like Donald Trump, who has no political ambitions for all of his life, and then decided when most of the People are sort of just retiring.
He said, you know, I'm going to do what I can now to save my country.
That's really the exception.
Most people who go into politics are sociopaths and weirdos, totally uninterested in other people.
All about them.
There was an article this morning, Steve, I saw in the press that said that former congressmen and senators are earning between three and four million when they leave politics.
unidentified
That's, you know, that's what's driving these people.
ben harnwell
So, as I say, the sociopathy is a certain advantage to get ahead in politics, but the fundamental weaknesses are the altitudes.
They don't know what people are thinking.
We in MAGA absolutely do, because we are a movement sort of of the people, by the people, for the people.
Fundamentally, you see that just when you sort of spend time sort of flicking through the messages on Getter.
This is a movement that's drawn out of the people.
And that is our strength.
That's why we're going to win in the long term, because the vulnerability that sociopaths have is actually a crucial, fatal invulnerability for them.
steve bannon
No, that's why this Army of the Awakened, and JoJo's got a new article, and I'll hopefully get her on to break it down later today, is so powerful.
That's why this audience is so powerful.
That's quite frankly why they fear this audience.
Because you're not in it for the money, you're not in it for the fame, you're in it for the best of all reasons.
You're in it for your country, your family, God, and they can't stop that.
They understand they can't stop.
You can't be bought.
You can't be deterred.
You can't be beaten unless you give up.
Before I bounce, by the way, the jury came back and it didn't take them a long time.
Hunter Biden guilty on all three felony counts.
Now we've got to make sure that this does not deter anybody from selling us out to the
Chinese Communist Party because that's what Biden's going to try to do.
MSNBC is already saying, oh, he's not going to serve any jail time, etc.
That this is all just phony and made up.
We'll get into more of that on the five o'clock hour tonight.
I just got to leave.
Just give me two minutes.
I got a couple minutes in the background.
Two minutes from you on how outrageous the story in the Daily Telegraph about the Azov Battalion, particularly coming around the deal, you know, had to be finalized during the commemorations with the inappropriate inviting of Zelensky.
But to do this, Over the commemoration of D-Day, with what the British and the Americans sacrificed, and the Canadians, and know that this was agreed to, to actually fund out of American taxpayer money, the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those heroes, Nazis working with Zelensky.
How outrageous is that, sir?
ben harnwell
It's disgusting, Steve.
There's no other words for it.
It's a pure instrumentalisation of the great heroes, the allies that fought and died on the Normandy beach landings.
But look, again, what kind of normal person would go and do that?
No normal person would do that.
What kind of person would do that?
Sociopaths.
Joe Biden didn't have any problems going out hammering out this deal instead of The guy's a big Catholic, right?
He's always wandering around with this rosary in his hand.
You might have thought he'd spent some time in prayer at the sacrifice the greatest generation had made, instead of wandering around in strange, obscure squatting conditions, which I'm not going to go into.
But also look at Rishi Sunak.
He was there, did the photo op.
And then he was off to do a TV interview in the UK for the campaign.
These are the people that we have leading us.
These are the people that are responsible for the fact that in the West, in the United States, in the United Kingdom, for the first time in recorded history, the present generation believes that it has a Superior quality of living that its children will have.
This is unique in the West's advancement.
We are now, intuitively, we have absorbed the fact now that we are a civilization in decline.
And that's because these people have reached the top of the pole.
And it's why we are spending seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, Steve, without break, without holidays, while we're fighting to do something to get these psychopaths, these sociopaths, these narcissists, out of power and to take our countries back for ourselves, for our culture, for our civilization, for our children, because it's being given into the ground by lunatics.
steve bannon
Ben, how do people get you on social media?
ben harnwell
Getter, Steve.
Getter, my surname, at Hanwell.
And I've got some great posts at the top of my feed.
For example, I mentioned that Zelensky's little trip to Normandy and shamelessly inserting himself in the D-Day, the sacred solemn D-Day commemorations.
I basically said that Zelensky is the Harry and Meghan of international diplomacy now.
That's definitive, because into any story, international story, in he goes to turn it all about himself.
And that has that situation, Steve, that has to end.
At Getter, on Getter, at Harnwell.
steve bannon
Your engagement's amazing.
Ben Harnwell, thank you so much.
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unidentified
Action.
steve bannon
We got a couple of action items here.
One is Flag Day.
Tell us about it because we're right here at the War Room.
We're going to be participating.
We're going to be live streaming it on our other platform, on our other sites and on Getter and Rumble and all that.
We got a couple of channels on these.
Also, I'll be participating.
Steve, tell me about Flag Day.
Where do people go?
How do they get there?
What are they to do?
steve stern
So go to FlagDay2024.com.
That's FlagDay2024.com.
Very easy.
You sign up, you come on.
It's going to be Friday.
At 12 o'clock noon to four.
We just sent an invitation yesterday to President Trump.
We hope he comes in.
He'll be on at four o'clock if he comes in.
You'll be participating, Wayne Root, General Flynn, John Rich, Colonel John Mills, John Solomon, Donna Fadusha, Jerome Corsi, Tom Rents, Joni Bryant, Monica Page, Emeril Robinson, and many, many more.
We're going to be talking about the history of the flag.
I know you've got a great thing coming on.
We need to get it as soon as possible.
Also, we're going to be talking about the flag shirt on there also.
This is our 70th year in business.
We've got a lot of new things that came in.
Go to www.theflagshirt.com.
This morning on one of the shows, I was wearing my cowboy hat.
That's the number one item that we got.
We just got in a new supply of socks.
Everybody's been good with that.
And for the women, we got our little shawl.
So this has been phenomenal.
I want to thank everybody in the posse who's come on.
You know, we got 4th of July coming on.
And also, we have our Zoom meeting for election security coming up on the 26th.
So go to Esthern.
1054 at gmail.com to sign up.
Last time we're going to talk about and this time about the illegal aliens that are voting in this election and how we're going to get them off.
We have some top people coming on.
Last time we had Lindell on there.
We had Catherine Engelbrecht and many, many superstars.
So again, we hope to see you on Friday.
We want to thank Michael Andel.
He's putting it on his network.
And like you said, Rumble, Southern American.
We want to thank Jovan Pulitzer for doing the production on that.
Dane Sensor for his epic flag events.com.
So action, action, action.
Let's see you on there.
steve bannon
Yeah.
We'll have it after our morning show.
We'll have it.
We'll be streaming it up on Getter.
I'll be jumping in and out and Rumble.
So will Captain Ben and Grace and many other of the War Room personages.
Real quickly, time of the call, your weekly call.
Where do people go?
How do they get on it?
steve stern
So the weekly call will be in two weeks.
It'll be the 26th.
It's every three weeks.
Go to Esther1024 at gmail.com.
It's on there and sign up.
Send me an email.
We'll send you the link.
We're going to have some superstars on there that we never had before.
I don't want to tell you who they are, but we'll be on next week and we'll be able to give you a whole rundown of them.
And again, go to Flagstrip.com.
Fourth of July is coming up.
We'll still ship today for Flag Day.
And thank you again to Posse for everybody who's made our Flag Day and our Fourth of July this year a success.
It's the most people have ever come in on Flagstrip.
Thank you very much, Steve, for having me on.
steve bannon
Pound into it.
Flag Day.
Very special.
Also, I think somebody's birthday too.
We'll talk about that later.
Steve Stern.
Thank you very much, brother.
Most ambitious 82 year old I've ever met.
Steve Stern.
Mike Lindell.
Mike Lindell, you're stepping out of a deposition to join us today.
I want to thank you for that.
We've had a great track record of you in depositions.
Some of the biggest track record we've ever gotten is Mike Lindell's deposition.
Is somebody talking about lumpy pillows and your great phone staff not answering their questions?
What is today's problem?
unidentified
Well, actually, they're very upset with me.
I keep calling Donald Trump our real president.
They keep correcting me.
I said, no, he's our real president.
And by the way, they brought up you, Steve, and the War Room Posse.
It was very interesting.
I said, yeah, they give us a lot of support.
They're some of our biggest supporters, the War Room Posse, if not the biggest.
It's been quite an interesting morning.
I'm losing my voice as we go in there.
We'll see if I make it to another six hours I have to be in this frivolous deposition.
But it's going a little better than the last one that went completely public.
I keep putting stuff in there and saying, no, can you guys make sure the public hears about this?
So I don't know what I can and can't say.
I always end up breaking rules.
steve bannon
Real quickly, give me a minute.
I know you got to talk about deals, but Rob and Voss, they're going to have the press conference this afternoon, I think 2 p.m.
Central Time.
We're going to stream that on our getter.
In a rumble mowing Captain Bennett.
I will be in that.
Give me 30 seconds on what's going to happen that press conference day on Robin Voss.
unidentified
Yeah, there's going to be our lawyer, the lawyer's going to be there, I say our, the people's lawyer, and also Michael Gabelman, the Supreme Court Justice, the ex-Supreme Court Justice who's been involved in this since the beginning to get rid of us.
And you guys, we did it.
We basically did it.
That's going to be the gist of the conference.
We pulled it off.
It's a big victory for our country, and the only thing can stop it now would be the WECA I believe it's June 28th, and they would have to come up with some crazy reason not to go forward with the recall election in August.
So for me, it's a big relief, Steve, that this guy, I would say neck and neck with Crooked Brad Rasenberger of Georgia, the two biggest blockers this country has ever seen.
They've done more damage to our efforts to get to paper ballots in the county and to look into elections than anybody.
steve bannon
And you heard MTG early in the show.
She doesn't trust him because of Fulton County, Gwinnett County, DeKalb County.
Real quickly, Mike, give me a deal.
This audience wants a new deal.
Your deal ran out.
unidentified
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You guys, I didn't have time to put together new deals, but I'm bringing back your two favorite We have the mattress when we did over Labor Day, you guys, where this is exclusive for the War Room today.
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mike lindell
That one, and we're also bringing back for the next couple of days, the percale bed sheets.
unidentified
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$34.98 for the Queen, $39.98 for the King.
This is going to be a limited couple day sale while I'm in these depositions.
And when I get out, we're going to have the new specials.
But take advantage.
If you missed them, then get them now.
Use the promo code War Room.
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There's all the other specials there that we have up there.
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We still have some of those 950 sandals, pre-shipping options available for the War Room Class C. But you guys, call my call center, too.
They're so happy the big victory they had a couple weeks ago that they can work for home now on commission.
Steve, we're winning, winning, winning.
That's what we do now.
steve bannon
I'm almost getting tired of winning.
Mike Lindell, thank you.
Charlie Kirk is next.
Jack Masovic after that.
Tara Dahl, Miranda Kahn, and then you're back in the War Room, 5 p.m.
tonight.
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