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WarRoom Battleground EP 548: Eyes On Israel
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pesach wolicki
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Have you spoken to Prime Minister Netanyahu?
Obviously the White House is issuing its stark warning.
steve bannon
Do you think that the U.S.
unidentified
is not doing enough to show support for Israel, or are you going to go?
Biden has totally lost control of the Israel situation.
He has abandoned Israel.
He's totally abandoned Israel.
steve bannon
And frankly, You know, he's a low IQ individual.
unidentified
He has no idea where he is and who he's supporting.
He doesn't know if he's supporting the Palestinians, but he knows one thing.
He is not supporting Israel.
He has abandoned Israel.
donald j trump
And any Jewish person that votes for a Democrat or votes for Biden should have their head examined.
pesach wolicki
With Israel at war, it's never been more clear.
We need to re-elect Donald Trump.
Allow me to explain.
In 2015, under Barack Obama, the United States entered the JCPOA, also known as the Iran Nuclear Deal.
This deal enriched Iran to the tune of tens of billions of dollars, allowing them to sell their oil, giving them the cash to fund terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah.
Obama signed the deal, even though Israel's leadership always insisted that it endangered its national security.
Another result of the Iran Nuclear Deal was that it undermined U.S.
relations with Saudi Arabia and the other moderate Arab states who see Iran as a threat to the peace and prosperity of the region.
Donald Trump took a different approach.
He called it peace through strength.
Rather than appeasing America's enemies, Trump's policies strengthened America's friends.
He delivered his first major foreign policy speech abroad in Saudi Arabia, reinforcing the bonds with those Arab nations that seek peaceful engagement with the West Not its destruction.
Trump destroyed ISIS.
He killed the terrorist leader Qasem Soleimani.
He pulled the United States out of the Iran deal and sanctioned Iran, making it much more difficult for Tehran to fund terrorists.
President Trump understood that by strengthening your friends, you encourage more people to become your friends.
But of everything President Trump did to bring peace to the Middle East, maybe the most important was recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S.
Embassy there.
You might be wondering, isn't the embassy move just a symbolic act?
Why is that so important?
For decades, all the experts agreed that if America recognized Jerusalem as its capital, and moved the embassy, there would be war in the Middle East.
There'd be riots across the Arab world.
America moving its embassy will set the world on fire.
unidentified
The brilliance of Trump's embassy move was that nothing happened.
pesach wolicki
No riots, no Mideast war.
In fact, the Abraham Accords, the peace deals between Israel and a number of Arab states, happened after the embassy move.
Rather than bringing war, the embassy move brought unprecedented peace and prosperity to the Middle East.
When Joe Biden came into office, he began negotiating to restart the Iran nuclear deal.
He stopped enforcing the Trump sanctions, thereby enriching the Iranians to the tune of tens of billions of dollars and enabling the funding of Hamas, Hezbollah, and their other terrorist proxies.
Biden also ruined the U.S.
relationship with the Saudis, Emiratis, and the other moderate Arab states, undermining the Abraham Accords and pushing these nations into the arms of the Chinese Communist Party.
So, to sum up, it's pretty simple.
Donald Trump's policies weakened the terrorists, And under Joe Biden, Israel's and America's enemies are stronger and the Mideast is at war.
So if you care about peace in the Middle East and the world, vote for Donald Trump in November 2024.
steve bannon
It's Wednesday, 5 June, in the year of our Lord 2024.
It's the eve of the Normandy landings.
As you guys know, we always do specials on 6 June.
We also carry that throughout the next couple of months in the Battle of Normandy.
We had Coach Tuberville on this morning in studio to talk about the wag the dog and the situation, the lack of leadership in the United States, in the world.
Because of Joe Biden and other folks like Joe Biden.
Very honored now to have Rabbi Walecki help us over.
He's got a show on Real America's Voice on Sunday afternoons.
That's much a must watch.
He's helped us put together this program.
Rabbi, thank you so much for doing this.
And I got to tell you, I don't think there's a more succinct introduction to what's transpired under President Trump and today.
Can you give me your obs?
I just want to give you a short, you know, my recommendation In the transition, was that we actually moved the capital to Jerusalem, the embassy to Jerusalem, right after the inauguration.
Inauguration, you skip the lunch, you don't play around with Nancy Pelosi and this crowd, no lunch, people are freezing, you do the parade.
You go to White House, President Trump heads the parade, goes to White House, all the folks are there.
We actually move it on a historic day of his inauguration.
We move the embassy to Jerusalem right then and then President Trump would go back to the Capitol for a joint session of Congress.
And we lay out our 100-day plan.
My idea was shot down, and one of the reasons was the State Department came to us and said, oh no, if you move the embassy to Jerusalem, there's going to be 3,000 American embassies taken.
There's going to be 9,000 hostages.
It's all this.
All of it was a lie.
All of it was spin of the State Department, which the State Department, the permanent State Department, hates Israel full on.
Rabbi Walecki, just tell us, give an overview of the program today, because I want to get to Ambassador David Friedman, who's joined us.
What are we going to be doing this afternoon?
pesach wolicki
Absolutely.
Thank you so much, Steve, for doing this.
We're going to be talking about the Jewish electorate issues that relate to Israel and the Jewish electorate.
You know, where we are.
To a lot of people in the movement, in the Trump movement, they don't understand the dynamics of the Jewish community.
They don't understand the multifaceted nature of it.
And there's also a lot of Jews out there who are feeling kind of, you know, politically homeless and are looking for a new place to be.
So we're going to have a lively discussion today, what we have in store.
Is Ambassador David Friedman is going to be on here.
We're going to have Rabbi Michael Barkley talking about the lay of the land in the broader Jewish community where he's a rabbi in Los Angeles.
We're going to have Mark Zell on here, the chairman of GOP in Israel, talking about the over half a million American voters who live in Israel and the impact that they could have on the election, the plans there.
We're going to have a member of Knesset, Ohad Tal, and we're going to also understand more about what's going on at the grassroots level with With Jewish activism in America, promoting Donald Trump and promoting the conservative movement so that we can win in November.
It's gonna be a great discussion.
Thanks so much for doing this, Steve.
steve bannon
Thanks.
I'm really on the eve of D-Day.
It was a perfect time to do it.
Thank you so much for putting this together.
Ambassador David Friedman, you were our go-to guy in the first Trump term.
And I'll say it.
I know you're too humble to talk about it, but you're obviously going to be on the short list to be Secretary of State in the second term.
So explain to me not just the difference of Biden's policies and Trump's.
I think it's pretty obvious, particularly this audience, But where it's led us today, where exactly are we?
Because I was so shocked on Friday to see Biden up there saying he had a deal from Israel and putting this deal out.
Five times he said this is the Israelis deal.
Didn't talk about destroying the military capacity and capabilities of Hamas.
And then over the weekend it looked like Some confusion, maybe some guys from the War Cabinet said it.
So, this thing has turned into a fiasco now.
Where exactly are we with the reality on the ground in Israel and then the Biden regime's interaction with that, sir?
david m friedman
Well, Steve, it's great to be with you and with PESAF as well.
Where we are is that every day Biden is making Hamas stronger.
That's really where we are, unfortunately.
Every day he's reaching out as nominally the most powerful human being on earth, and he is begging Hamas, one of the most vile terrorist organizations in the world, begging them to come to the table and, you know, Hang on.
accept Israel's surrender. I mean it's really what what he's doing. He made up,
I think he made up a story about getting a proposal from Israel because I don't
see anything in the proposal that he offered to Hamas that says anything
about Israel winning the war and Israel's made it clear that...
steve bannon
Hang on, I want to restate that. That was a lie, right?
They made that up.
There could not have possibly been any proposal that came from Israel, War Cabinet or not, that did not have as a sine qua non the destruction of Hamas' military and political capabilities, correct?
david m friedman
100% correct, yes.
steve bannon
So, what do you do? How do you...
How do you do this then with a guy sitting in the Roosevelt room and look in the cameras and lie to the American people in a time of war in Israel, an existential conflict?
I mean, what are we dealing with?
How can that even happen?
How can Blinken and Sullivan go along with this, sir?
david m friedman
Look, I think it's about pressuring Netanyahu.
I think I think Biden believes politically he's got to end this war.
I think he wants to play on the on the hearts of these poor families that have continued to have people held hostage.
So he gives them hope.
Unfortunately, I think a lot of it is false hope.
He gives them hope that somehow there's a deal.
They then go into the public squares in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and demand that Bibi end the war or release the hostages when there really isn't that opportunity.
So he divides the country.
He plays upon the worst fears and emotions of the Israeli people who are already fully traumatized.
And, you know, the only thing I've read in the media that actually made any sense to me was the Wall Street Journal report that Yahia Senwar, who is the head of Hamas, the one who engineered this incredible, you know, Holocaust-like attack, He cannot believe how much attention he's getting from the United States.
He cannot believe how he is, you know, he is the decision maker about whether or not, you know, Biden, you know, is able to placate his base.
He's not letting go of these hostages as long as Biden is making him to be the most important leader on the world stage, which is You know, tragic at so many different levels.
So, look, this has been mismanaged, you know, from day one.
You know, Biden sends Blinken and Austin and Sullivan every week or two into the war cabinet to try to micromanage Israel's war against Hamas.
None of those guys know how to fight this war.
I mean, they're fighting a war that's never been fought before.
It's a war against these people who have 350 miles of terror tunnels, the greatest home court advantage anywhere in the world in terms of ground warfare.
And these guys are saying, don't go here, don't go there.
This might result in too many casualties.
Sacrifice your own soldiers rather than putting civilians at risk.
Don't go to the air that much.
The air is more efficient for you, but why don't you fight on the ground?
You'll kill less people.
Meanwhile, Israeli soldiers are dying as a result.
And as a result, we have a seven-, eight-month war that could have been over in three or
four months.
or four months.
All the idiots on the college campuses would be on to their next, you know, Marxist agenda item.
And we'd be done with this already.
But, you know, Biden is, you know, if you would have flipped a coin, if you would have flipped a coin, you know, eight months ago and continue to flip a coin and just go with heads, we would be better off than the decisions he's made now.
steve bannon
What's your recommendation?
I know you've got to bounce, but give me a couple of minutes, because you, working with President Trump and Jared and others, brought peace and prosperity, not just to Abraham Accords, but so much that went on there with the moderate Gulf Emirates states, etc.
What has to happen now, sir?
david m friedman
So look, the partnership between Israel and the Emirates and Bahrain and Morocco and the future partnership with Saudi Arabia, people think it hinges upon a Palestinian state.
It doesn't.
It hinges upon the quality of the partnership between Israel and these countries.
So what Biden needs to do, and this is what I tell President Trump, this is not complicated right now.
We have an ally in the Middle East.
It's a regional superpower.
It's an ethical fighter.
It is an important relationship on so many levels with America.
America, you know, derives much from this relationship as well.
Just let Israel win the war.
Let Israel, I mean, to coin a phrase, let Israel be great again.
Let Israel fight its war, fight its battle, defeat its enemies.
Win this war.
Let these people surrender.
And we will send a message through the Middle East that Israel is the right partner, you know,
to be with among all these moderate Sunni nations.
And that's the way to expand the Abrahamic Horde.
These countries are looking at Israel now under Biden and saying, you know, did we bet on the right horse?
Maybe we should go make a deal with Iran because Israel is getting beaten up every day by,
you know, in America.
If we restore the relationship between America and Israel that we had in the Trump administration,
I remember, I remember your whiteboard.
It was right at the top of that list, was moving the embassy on day one.
So what you said really, really brought back a very pleasant memory.
I remember that.
I remember that well.
But, you know, let Israel win the war, give them what they need, you know, militarily, obviously not U.S.
troops, but give them the ammo, give them the diplomatic support, give them the money, let them win the war, and they will be America's best friend, and they will then be positioned To expand that, you know, that circle of trust within the Middle East that will include Saudi Arabia.
But it's all about the linchpin to all of this is letting Israel win the war and being strong.
That's the key.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Ambassador, the book you just wrote, what's the title of it?
I want to put it up and push it out.
It was amazing about the Route 1 in Israel.
You go back through all the major biblical Old Testament and New Testament.
What's the name of that book?
david m friedman
Well, that's the film.
That's the movie.
That's Route 60, the Biblical Highway.
That I made with Mike Pompeo last year.
And I've got a new book coming out in September called One Jewish State, which makes the argument that there can never be a two-state solution.
A two-state solution will be, as Hitler used to say, a final solution for the Jewish people.
Israel needs to take control of its biblical homeland.
It can bring to the Palestinians a better quality of life than anything they got now, and they'll be able to secure the region.
So, you know, the book is One Jewish State.
The movie, as you have on your screen, is Route 60, the Biblical Highway.
And Steve, thank you for being such a great friend of Israel and the Jewish people.
I can't say it enough.
We need friends like you.
We need people who are fighters, who have the courage of their convictions, and it's much appreciated.
steve bannon
If the president was asked you to be Secretary of State, would you accept it, sir?
david m friedman
You know, I never say no to my president.
You know, he's my president and I will do anything I can to help him.
Other jobs, too.
Whatever jobs he wants for me, you know, he will find me there willing to help.
steve bannon
Did a great job in the first term.
Looking forward to working with you in the second, sir.
david m friedman
Me too.
Thank you, Steve.
Be well.
steve bannon
Ambassador David Friedman.
One Jewish state can't have a two-state solution.
It's impossible.
Let's bring in Rabbi Barkley, Michael Barkley from L.A.
Can you break it down?
One of the things that MAGA, when they see, it's hard for people to comprehend, Rabbi, How can Jewish folks here in the United States support the most radical and progressive and left-wing and anti-Israel elements of the Democratic Party?
Can you explain?
You're from Los Angeles.
Can you explain that to us?
unidentified
I am, and Steve, thank you so much for being so kind to all of us, and to Israel especially, and always supporting it.
Look, any Jew who votes Democratic at this point is like a chicken who votes for Colonel Sanders, and we all know that.
But you need to understand that there are observant Jews, like Rabbi Pesach, like myself, that were committed to Jewish values and to trying to live in a Jewish way.
Judaism is about action.
But then there are both secular Jews and non-practicing Orthodox Jews.
And there's people who have Jewish values, but they're not practicing it.
And then people who are totally disconnected from Judaism, from Israel, from all of it.
And that's happened.
You need to understand How that happened.
Judaism is about action, but acting righteously.
We've lost a tremendous amount of Jews to conversion.
They've not converted to Catholicism or Christianity.
They've converted instead to secular leftism.
Why?
Because Judaism wants good action.
Secular leftism only requires feelings.
And so they can feel good about themselves.
I hope that helps put it a little bit in perspective.
They've rejected the Jewish process of acting righteously, and instead they want to feel good.
And the Democratic Party makes them feel good, like they're doing something in a good way.
On October 7th, every Jew's head imploded.
Every one of those liberal Jews, their head imploded.
They realized that the world is different.
But very quickly, by December, that was in the rearview mirror and they want to sing Kumbaya again.
And I think there are ways of bringing them back and bringing them to a more mature, psychologically mature and responsible position.
But I think we need to have that outreach.
steve bannon
But here's the question I got.
I talked to Rabbi Walecki a lot about this.
If you look at the faculty, what's happening on the campuses in those quadrants is bad, but if you look at the faculties and you look at the administrations, that's what these Marxists are.
That's the people that are putting this propaganda in these kids' heads.
They hate America, they hate the Judeo-Christian West, that Israel's a colonizer, they're an oppressor, and they're, you know, they're little Satan, we're big Satan.
Many of that is driven by Jews.
Why are they, I can understand maybe they have different values and they say this, but why do they seem, not all of them, but some, To be at the tip of the spear of supporting those people that want to see the destruction of the Jewish state, and quite frankly, they ain't stopping there.
Destruction of the Jews that still remain in Europe and the United States.
That's why I think it's hard to grasp that some of the leaders of this, from the faculties, from the people you see on MSNBC, are Jewish.
What is it that they seem to have, at least to Christians and Catholics and to folks in MAGA, a hatred of Israel, sir?
unidentified
So, Steve, you're a... I mean, I know you well enough to know that you're a devout Catholic, thank God.
When you have met Catholics who have converted to some other religion, they might have a lot of anger towards Catholicism, right?
In the same way, these Jews have left Judaism and they have anger about it.
There's a level of psychological guilt, there's a level of shame, there's a level of self-loathing, a level of self-hatred.
So they take it out on Judaism.
You know, Evan Seid has a great comment.
To be a Catholic or a Christian, you need to accept Jesus as your savior in your heart.
To be a Muslim, you need to accept Allah as your God and Muhammad as one and only prophet.
To be a Jew, you had to come out of a Jewish womb.
And a lot of these people really are ashamed and have rejected Judaism.
They wish they didn't have a Jewish mother.
And so they take it out, their anger, like teenagers acting out, They take out their anger on Israel and on Jews.
They don't want to have personal responsibility.
They don't want to have psychological maturity.
They don't want to be honest about anything.
So it's easier to reject everything the same way a teenager does with its parents.
I hope that helps a little bit.
steve bannon
Helps a lot.
How do we, tell me what the program is inside the Jewish community to try to bridge this gap and to show people, it's not about even voting for Trump or being part of MAGA, it's that what's quite obvious, I think, to people, and you can see what's happened in Europe, is that These, the enemies of Israel and the Jewish people are enemies of the West.
And I understand there are many people on the right that don't agree with me over that, but I know I'm right on this, and I'm adamant about it.
They look at us as colonizers and oppressors, and that's why they look at the state of Israel, because you're the fundamental backbone element of the Judeo-Christian West.
How do you guys then work this through, particularly when you're at a global war, because what you're seeing in the United States is just war by other means, a kind of reverse Clausewitz, right?
So how do you guys bridge this gap when you're actually at war today?
unidentified
So you're asking how we can get Jews back Being active in the right way?
Is that the right question?
steve bannon
Yes, yes, yes.
From the secular side to actually supporting Israel and essentially putting the Jewish people here in the United States and in Europe.
unidentified
I think that, and this has been a difficult journey for a long time, for the last 50 years, we've lost all these Jews from where they need to go.
I think two things need to happen.
Number one, there needs to be a welcoming from the MAGA from I don't I don't like the term conservative from that that that world to the Jew to realize that these secular Jews are part we're all under the same tent but I think there's been a big mistake when you're looking at the reform conservative secular Jew the Jew who is maybe goes to conservative synagogue maybe goes to reform one but he's really secular he really doesn't have a commitment to Israel commitment to Jewish values talking about the Abraham Accords that's
Thousands of miles away, talking about moving the embassy to Jerusalem.
Well, what difference does that make in their life?
And so while October 7th shocked them, they very quickly got back into their lane of, oh, who cares?
I'm, you know, I'm an assimilated American who has no conception, no relationship to Israel or Judaism.
I think that there's been a mistake from the conservative side that can easily be fixed.
President Trump was the greatest president ever, not just for Israel, but for Jews in the history of this nation.
Ever, ever, ever.
And I think there's been a mistake by focusing on the Abraham Accords, which doesn't mean anything to these secular Jews.
Instead, I think we should focus on what he did with Title VI, because Donald Trump saved tens if not hundreds of thousands of Jewish students through his executive order, him putting anti-Semitism as part of Title VI.
And you're very familiar with all this.
I don't know if you were involved in that decision-making.
But it is now protected.
We have dozens if not hundreds of lawsuits that have already been filed against college campuses only because Trump Protected the Jewish people by putting them in Title VI, by putting anti-Semitism with the Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's definition.
We need to focus on that and point it out because every one of these secular Jewish parents who doesn't really care about Israel, they do care about their children, they do care about their grandchildren.
And we need to remind them that Donald Trump has protected their children years before it was needed.
If Trump hadn't did what he did with Title VI, None of those kids, none of those Jewish kids who were victimized on college campuses would have any recourse.
But thank God he did, and there are lawsuits now.
We need to remind the secular Jew about what he did because it's truly heroic and has made a difference in a huge, huge way.
steve bannon
Rabbi Walecki, I know you want to jump in here.
We've got about a minute before we go to break.
Your thoughts, observations?
pesach wolicki
That, you know, what Roy Barclay is saying about how the way, you know, if we want more secular Jews, more of the, what we call the liberal streams of Judaism, reform, what's called conservative, which isn't really conservative, that's the name of a branch of Judaism that's indistinguishable from reform.
If we want them to come to our side politically, we really need to get them to come to our side culturally.
Because the cultural divide between those Jews and Orthodox Jews is vast.
Just to share the quick numbers that I shared with you the first time we met, Steve, 80% of Orthodox Jews or higher voted for Donald Trump in 2020.
80% or 79% of non-Orthodox Jews in America voted for Joe Biden.
And that's just a vote in an election, but it's indicative of a cultural divide.
The cultural divide is vast.
And as younger Jews especially start coming towards orthodoxy and the percentage of Jews in America who identify as orthodox in the under 29 year old segment of the population is close to double what it is over that age.
And so that's a good sign, and we just need to bring them closer to their roots, because what's happening now is really a referendum on their Jewish identity.
What happened on October 7th didn't shake the worldview of people like myself.
It confirmed it.
But for these Jews, it shook their worldview, and there's an opportunity here to reconnect them with their Jewish identity.
Unfortunately, Hamas caused it, but we have an opportunity to bring them to our side by connecting them culturally.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
We're taking a short commercial break.
We're going to return in just a moment.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, it's no better time than the eve of the Normandy landings to get into all this.
As you know, the Normandy landings, we kick off our special coverage of that tomorrow.
Morning, we did a little bit with Coach Tuberville today.
His father was a tank driver at Utah Beach.
Coach Tuberville got on a plane after the show and is going to be in Normandy.
We'll track him down tomorrow.
We're going to follow this all the way through the end of the Battle of Normandy, which actually went to the end of July, beginning of August, every day.
Rabbi Michael Barkley, thank you so much for being here.
We're going to spend more time with you individually, get you back on the show.
But where do people go?
Social media, website, all of it.
unidentified
They can certainly follow me at Rabbi underscore Barclay on Twitter X. The website is RabbiMichaelBarclay.com.
Our synagogue website's in Hebrew, so it's probably just easier to do RabbiMichaelBarclay.com.
They can also follow.
I do a lot of commentary, a lot of articles and columns for PJ Media and for American Thinker, but especially PJ Media.
steve bannon
We love PJ.
They're fantastic.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you being on here.
unidentified
Thank you, and God bless you, Steve, for everything you do.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Mark Zell, the GOP in Israel.
Tell me, how many American citizens actually are in Israel that are eligible to vote, sir?
unidentified
Well, according to the U.S.
State Department, you mentioned in the beginning of your show, in a not particularly favorable way, there are 750,000 U.S.
citizens residing in Israel.
Of them, we figure about half a million are eligible to vote.
steve bannon
So tell us about the GOP.
One of your jobs, I take it, is to corral or wrangle American citizens there to make sure that they vote?
unidentified
Well, that's a good way to describe it.
I have a couple of jobs.
That's the main one, especially in a hotly contested election like we have here in 2024.
We have In fact, I can tell you that in the 2000 election, when George W. Bush was elected by 537 votes in three counties in southern Florida, 1,200 Israeli Republicans voted in that race.
And had they not done so, there would have been another Democratic president at that time.
So our votes here in Israel and around the world, Republicans overseas, as chapters in some 50 countries, are important.
And there are some 10 million American citizens abroad, and here in Israel, we have one of the largest populations, and we are probably the most active population anywhere in the world of U.S.
citizens.
And we, in contrast to the Jewish community in the United States that Rabbi Welicki described, 80 to 90 percent of Americans living here in Israel vote Republican.
And that means that when we go out to wrangle those votes, as you put it, Steve, we don't have to worry about messaging or twisting anybody's arms, you know, to get them to vote Republican.
They will vote Republican.
In fact, when I spoke to RNC Chairman Michael Whatley the other day, he said that these are Low propensity voters.
These are voters who would vote Republican if they would get off their duff and vote.
So our task is to do exactly that.
We're going to be trying a whole variety of ways.
Rabbi Wolinki knows about this.
We're going to be doing all everything we can to bring the message to these Americans here, particularly the thousands and tens of thousands of Americans who fought, like my son, who was a tank commander in Gaza for 150 days and is going back early next week, and to get them to show them why they have such a special privilege to vote in an American election and to actually do something about changing the American-Israeli relationship.
And if I may, one other thing, you mentioned that tomorrow is the anniversary of D-Day.
Well, today, Steve, is the anniversary of the beginning of the Six-Day War.
And it's also Jerusalem Day, Yom Yerushalayim, where we celebrate the liberation of Jerusalem and its reunification, where the whole capital city of Jerusalem, of Israel, changed entirely.
It's an amazing place that you've been there.
You know what it's like.
And this is the day today, June 5th, where we commemorate the events that changed the whole face of the Middle East.
I pray that we can do what we need to do in this election to keep it, to keep Jerusalem unified, keep Jerusalem Jewish, and keep Israel safe and strong.
steve bannon
Right before I go, 80-90% of people, American citizens living in Israel, when they vote, they vote Republican.
Am I correct on that?
unidentified
You're absolutely correct.
And it didn't start that way.
When we took over Republicans overseas in the early 90s, they were voting like their American counterparts, 80-90% Democratic.
So it can happen.
You can change the way Jews think about how they vote in an American election.
And really, as you say, and as President Trump has said, It makes no rational sense why Jews, in light of what the Biden administration and Democrats have done, would continue to vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic Party.
That makes no sense.
We can show you that it's possible to change To change that course of action, change the course of history.
steve bannon
So you're saying in time of war, if we could turn out, if you guys had the resources or we could turn out everybody, roughly round numbers, we could bring 400,000.
If we get them all to vote, we could bring 400,000, potentially 400,000 votes for president Trump just out of Israel.
Am I correct in that?
unidentified
That's right.
We could do that.
We can do that.
That's entirely possible.
And the other thing is we have, We have thousands of voters in swing states in Georgia and Larizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
There are literally tens of thousands of Pennsylvanians living here in Israel, many Wisconsin, all in all the swing states.
And even the ones that Chairman Wadley said may become swing states like Minnesota and Virginia and New Hampshire.
So we can bring those votes and add them to the tallies and help swing this election the right way.
steve bannon
Mark, where do people go to follow you on social media, the website, to get more information on this?
I think people will be quite excited about this.
unidentified
Well, I'll be glad to have them join me on TwitterX.
I'm appropriately called at GOP Israel.
That's my handle.
And on the website, it's www.RepublicansOverseas.org.
That's all for the International Organization, of which we are a very proud part.
steve bannon
Marcel, thank you very much.
Great work.
unidentified
Steve, thank you and God bless you and everything you're doing.
I can't tell you how important the work it is that you're doing here.
And I will tell you also, before I leave, that what you do and the message you're carrying brings tremendous support and encouragement to the thousands of our soldiers, men and women, who are fighting to protect those Judeo-Christian values you discussed, and to protect the Jewish state, the Jewish people, and the United States of America.
steve bannon
Marcel, thank you very much.
Thank you for the kind words.
Knesset member Tal joins us now Ohad Tal, can Israel win this war?
We just talked about the six-day war.
As you look at this right now, is the IDF that we're fighting with today, is that the same IDF that was the six-day war, the 73 war, the 67 war?
Is it the same IDF?
Do you actually have the ability to destroy Hamas?
Because I think right now the question, it's very confusing because Biden and these guys have kind of thrown sand in the gears and lied to the American people so they don't know really where we stand.
Can the IDF actually get this thing done?
unidentified
First of all, thank you very much for having me, and thank you for the great job you're doing.
I think I can divide this question into two because there's a difference.
When you talk about the IDF, there's basically two IDFs.
There's the senior leadership of the army, Which unfortunately, unfortunately, like in many other places, like you're also having in America, is being influenced by progressive approaches, which basically led us to what we've seen happening in October 7th.
But I think what we discovered since October 7th is the huge spirit That vast majority of the soldiers, of the officers on the field has their commitment to win this war, to go all the way.
I mean, everything we hear from the commanders on the field is, we are willing to stay here as much as needed.
We are willing to pay all the prices, and we are paying heavy prices.
We're not seeing our families already for months.
We are paying financial prices for that, but we are committed to destroy, to eradicate this evil regime of Hamas.
We are committed to bring back the hostages.
We are committed to finish this war with a clear Israeli victory.
steve bannon
So you're saying, we had Coach Tuberville, Senator Tuberville on this morning, and we talked, his father fought on D-Day and then all the way through to Berlin as a tank commander.
And he said, because he stood up here against the Pentagon, he said, hey, the problem we got in the military today in the United States, and his father was career military.
Is that the field grade officers and above the generals are all woke?
Is this tied to, are some of the senior IDF commanders actually woke?
Because it seems to us, before the war started, there was almost a color revolution over there to get rid of Netanyahu.
Is that permeated through the military command of the IDF?
unidentified
Unfortunately, the answer is yes.
The answer is yes.
I mean, you know, many times people are asking me, how could it even happen?
How did October 7th even happen?
I mean, Israel has the best army in the world with the best, you know, intelligence capabilities in the world.
So how, in God's name, how is this possible to even happen?
And I can tell you, I mean, of course, we'll have to investigate and to find the full answer, but part of the answer sure is, That it wasn't about lack of information, right?
Because we had all the information.
We had the booklets with all the plans of Hamas, exactly how to go into the villages, and how to massacre the people, and how to butcher everybody, and how to rape the women.
Everything was in the booklet, in the plans, in the hands of the IDF officers.
The problem wasn't about lack of information, it was about the conception.
It's about the generals wanted so badly to believe, maybe, that our enemies, if we will only improve their economy, if you will give them more job permissions, if you will give them pieces of our land, if we will buy quiet, then maybe they will not want to destroy us anymore.
Well, it doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
And I think that, thank God, thank God, because of this crisis, I think we are revealing the true nature of the people here.
People are realizing the threat.
You know, when these animals of Hamas penetrated our villages, our kibbutzim down south, And you have to understand that many of the people living there are the most left, secular people in Israel who are advocating for peace every day.
I mean, if you've been to these villages, to Kfar Aza, you've seen probably that on the burned houses, you'll see flags with Shalom Akshav, Peace Now.
They are the people To take Palestinians from Gaza to Israeli hospitals.
They were the ones to advocate for peace the most.
To take Palestinians from Gaza to work in their homes.
And they were butchered by the same people.
And when they penetrated this kibbutzim, they called them, in Arabic, mustawtinin.
Which basically means, you are illegal settlers.
You are Jews.
This is what they called them.
They don't care if you're observant, if you, what you believe, or if you really, if you live in Judea and Samaria, or you live in a kibbutz, if you are a left wing, if you are right wing, for them, you're a Jew.
Don't forget who you are.
They remind us of who we are.
So yes, I think people are realizing it.
And this is why, even though the leadership of the army is not really fully, even today, not fully realizing what is happening.
I think that we will see huge changes in the army in the next couple of years.
steve bannon
We only have a couple minutes, but just real quickly, since you're a member of Knesset, what is the way forward?
We have said on the show you've got to take out the combat battalions in Gaza, particularly in Rafah, and Judea, Samaria, and then you've got to pivot and take on these Persian militias up north.
Give me a minute or two on what's the way forward.
unidentified
First of all, we have to understand that this is not the story of Hamas.
The main story is, of course, Iran.
They are orchestrating everything.
They are behind it.
They are the biggest supporters and sponsors of Hamas, of the Islamic Jihad, and of course of Hezbollah in the north and the Houthis in Yemen.
And what Iran wants, this evil empire of Iran, the alliance of Iran together with China and Russia, what they want is not just to destroy Israel.
They want to take down America.
You know, I've seen, I've spoke to one of the soldiers who came back from Gaza a couple of weeks ago, and he came back with a Palestinian flag he found there, and it's written on it in Arabic.
On Saturday, we will slaughter the Jews, but on Sunday, we will slaughter the Christians.
They're shouting in Tehran every day, death to Israel, death to America.
They call us the little Satan, but they call America the big Satan.
They want to take down America.
So yes, we're fighting this war, And we have to win this war.
And I can tell you, as a member of the Israeli Knesset, that we hope to see a change in the White House.
We want to see President Trump going back to the White House, because the policies of the current administration are not just not supporting Israel, but they're effectively supporting Iran.
That's the truth.
That's the reality.
People should understand that.
And I want to use this beautiful platform of yours to tell my brothers and sisters in America, my Jewish brothers and sisters, these are historic times.
And when you're going in November to vote, you'll have to remember To ask yourself, why does Hamas want you to vote?
Who would Hamas want you to support?
Ask yourself this question, and I hope that you'll make the right thing, because that decision will have an impact for hundreds of years from now.
steve bannon
Ohad Tal from the Knesset, thank you very much.
Honored to have you on here.
Great message, sir.
Appreciate you.
unidentified
Thank you very much for having me.
Thank you very much.
steve bannon
Benji Gershon, it takes a Texan to get this rolling.
American Jewish Conservatives.
Tell us about the group, what work are you guys doing, and how can this audience help?
unidentified
Well, thanks for having me on, Steve.
It's a pleasure to be with you.
First of all, I want to give you a big shout-out for streaming our event the other few weeks ago.
We had Rabbi Walecki on, and we were talking about Israel's fight for Western civilization.
But right now, we're actually, Dallas Jewish Conservatives, we're actually going to be launching and going nationally as American Jewish Conservatives over the next few months.
We're a grassroots, events-based, conservative organization.
We're pro-God, pro-America, pro-Israel, pro-Constitution.
We share our Judeo-Christian values with our Christian brothers and sisters.
Our goal is to educate, inform, and inspire Americans and, obviously, conservatives through a variety of our dynamic programs and initiatives and events we put on.
Just last year alone, we put on 22 events just here in Dallas.
Our goal is to spread this message across the nation, have chapters all across the country, and continue to educate and inform the electorate on the issues, and hopefully wake a few people up along the way.
steve bannon
Do you think you're getting traction, particularly in the secular Jewish community, to hear the message of President Trump and the Republican right?
unidentified
I think we're getting some traction.
I think more Jews need to be not afraid to speak up, especially on social media.
I mean, in regards to Israel, we've done seven or eight rallies and marches and pro-Israel events since October 7th.
And we've done it right in the heart of the Hamas epicenters, as I would like to call them, here in Richardson, Texas, where you have death chants to Jews going on in college campuses, where you have just terrible anti-Semitism happening across here, right here in North Texas.
So I think what our fellow conservatives need to do, especially Jewish conservatives, they need to not be afraid to speak up and be on social media and show up to events and spread the message.
Where do people go to get you, sir?
to come to an event, but it's another thing to actually bring your friends and bring other
people who may not be on the same page with you politically on every subject.
But I think that's the first step, is engaging with those people.
steve bannon
Where do people go to get you, sir? Social media and the website?
unidentified
Yeah, dallasjewishconservatives.com.
You can also go to AmericanJewishConservatives.com to subscribe to learn more about where we're going to be going in the future, what's going to be coming out in the next few months.
Our next event's actually on June 27th.
We're doing a huge Biden versus Trump presidential debate watch party and conservative roundup, so don't miss that.
The Angelica Theater, 7 p.m.
June 27th.
Go to DallasJewishConservatives.com for tickets and more information.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
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Rabbi, we're lucky I got about a minute.
I want to thank you for doing this.
Your summary thoughts, observations, and comments.
pesach wolicki
Well, first of all, thanks a lot, Steve, for doing this.
It's so important to raise these issues.
Look, my summary thoughts are that, unfortunately, it's not all good news.
For a lot of American Jews, as Rabbi Barclay said, the religion they've converted to is progressive leftism, and they will give up Israel a lot sooner than they'll give up that.
And that's a lot of the Jews, unfortunately, that Americans see.
They see these progressive Jewish organizations like the ADL, and they see, you know, all the Jews in power, like Mayorkas is Jewish, and Garland is Jewish, and Yellen is Jewish, and Soros is Jewish.
And I can, unfortunately, I can go on and on, With these secular Jews, and these are not Orthodox Jews certainly, they're not traditional Jews, who are ruining all of our lives.
But I want your audience to understand that there's a whole lot of us out there.
Jews who, you know, we're right in the MAGA camp.
We always have been.
We were the deplorables before the deplorables existed, because we have an elite in our own community that looks down at us and looks down at us for our traditional biblical values.
So, you know, we've been deplorables for a long time, and with you, you're part of MAGA, and thank you, Steve, for doing this.
steve bannon
Yeah, thanks.
We gotta bounce.
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