June 4, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Monday, 3 June, Year of Our Lord 2024. | ||
| Big breaking news today. | ||
| We're going to start right with Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Why do we have such a pivot? | ||
| Why is Nigel Farage now, having already given up a couple of weeks of what he could be campaigning, what was it that drove him to announce he's getting rid of, I guess, the chairman of the Reform Party, which Nigel started, and then he's going to stand for Parliament? | ||
| Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Yeah, that's right, Steve. | ||
| Nigel announced a big, what they called an emergency press conference earlier today and announced two things. | ||
| Number one, that he is taking back over as leader of his reform UK party that was derived from the Brexit party, which was in turn the successor party of the UK Independence Party. | ||
| They do things a little differently over in the UK and Europe in terms of the party makeups and how How readily they're kind of willing to jump from organization to organization. | ||
| And then two, the big one, is that Nigel has appeared to decide that his decision last week, which by the way, you know, I was quite supportive of, to not run for a parliamentary seat was not the right decision for him. | ||
| And now with a with a month to go before election day itself, he has decided he is going to run in a fairly Winnable seat called Clacton. | ||
| Now Steve, you may not recall but you were actually in Clacton once upon a time. | ||
| We were both in Clacton once upon a time and that was when there was a defection of a member of the Conservative Party, the governing Conservative Party, to the UK Independence Party. | ||
| And that gentleman, Douglas Carswell, actually defected to UKIP, stood as a UKIP Member of Parliament and won that seat. | ||
| So the groundwork is already there in a seat like Clacton. | ||
| And what Nigel said in this press conference this morning was that, hey, we've heard now for the past week the Conservative Party's positions, the Labour Party's positions, nobody is particularly interested in either. | ||
| And so he feels it is incumbent upon him to kind of, what he said, ginger up The race and throw his hat in the ring. | ||
| Now, I suspect that what really happened here in addition to that was two things. | ||
| Number one, he has been going around and campaigning around the country for the past week, and he has been getting a lot of feedback from people who say, look, it's great that we see you out here on the campaign trail, but we'd actually really like you to stand for a seat in Parliament as well. | ||
| So that was one consideration. | ||
| The second, I suspect, is they actually put some polling out in a seat like Clacton and realized, oh my goodness, you know, he actually is quite far ahead in this constituency and could well, therefore, be returned as a Member of Parliament on July 4th. | ||
| Look, you've been there on the Brexit, you've been there with Nigel for the entire time, and actually the beginning of UKIP and all that, that's when I trailed around with you guys and learned so much. | ||
| Really about populist nationalism and how it's a global phenomenon and really the seed roots of the Trump revolt here. | ||
| A lot of that was in the Tea Party movement here and also what you guys did. | ||
| What is the move on Tice? | ||
| I don't understand that. | ||
| Is that he just doesn't think he's on top of things? | ||
| They've always been pretty close, I think. | ||
| Why remove Tice as chairman and step into that and then also run for Parliament? | ||
| So he's actually added Tice, Richard Tice, the leader in his stead. | ||
| I mean, remember, Nigel left the leadership role in 2021, took over at GB News, overnight became a sensation on national television, really became Britain's, you know, Tucker Coulson at his peak has been the number one nightly watched television anchor. | ||
| in the country and Richard Tice took over as leader. | ||
| Now Tice will take over now as chairman of the party in a more kind of a not a bureaucratic role but an administrative role let's say with Nigel serving as the political face of the party so it's not it's not a slight necessarily against Richard Tice but it is to say look this is an election footing we are a political party that is now polling at around I think 14 percent was the latest, 1-4 that is, was the latest. | ||
| That is actually the tippy top of where the UK Independence Party polled at back in 2015. | ||
| So as a baseline, a month out of an election that is in a pretty good place to be, really to kind of aim at that 20% mark which would return you parliamentary seats, I think they realized the only way to go about that was to inject some, again not a slight on Richard Tice, but to inject some serious, serious charisma at the top of the political wing of that party. | ||
| Will he have to give up? | ||
| How's this work? | ||
| Does he have to give up the GB News show? | ||
| Can he keep that? | ||
| No, he cannot continue to air on broadcast media. | ||
| This would be a contravention of both election and media broadcast rules, so he will not anchor that show on GB News anymore. | ||
| And in fact, I don't think you will ever see him on GB News again, not in the next five years at least. | ||
| He may come on as a guest, he may be interviewed by GB News correspondence, but he has said that he intends to lead this party to be at its helm for the next five years. | ||
| So by hook or by crook, whether he is elected to parliament on July 4th or not, he has pledged to remain the leader of the Reform Party. | ||
| Now look, that's a big statement to make. | ||
| never know what's going to happen over the next five years and of course you | ||
| know just last week he was saying he wouldn't stand for a seat in Parliament | ||
| so things can change obviously but as of today Nigel Farage has stated that his | ||
| intent is to return to full-time frontline politics. | ||
| Well something must have changed in the polling. | ||
| Walk me through the polling and how it's changed, and correct me if I'm wrong, you know, we follow this fairly closely. | ||
| The Tories look pathetic, as we knew they would, but it doesn't seem like there's a lot of traction under Labor. | ||
| Is that one of the things that's driving Nigel here, is just looking at where the polling of the two parties are? | ||
| Yeah, I think when you look at the amount of quote-unquote soft voters on both sides, Nigel and Richard Tice will have come to the conclusion that actually there is a far larger protest vote out there, there is a far larger vote that can be captured for the long term out there, and there is a massive, massive amount of discontent with how both of the major two UK parties have got off the ground with their election campaigns. | ||
| You know, the Labour Party has now, for the last week, been mired in some scandal regarding one of its former members of Parliament, whether she can or can't stand because of an internecine disciplinary thing. | ||
| Keir Starmer, Sir Keir Starmer, the leader of the Labour Party, has come out and said outright that he's a socialist, but he would also try and limit immigration into the country. | ||
| I mean, unbelievable false and fraudulent claims being made there. | ||
| And on the other hand, You've got a Conservative Party that continues to flounder under Rishi Sunak. | ||
| No leadership, no charisma, no bright ideas, of course, been in government for the last 14 years, have governed to the centre to far left, frankly, and have presided over the largest increase in net migration in the United Kingdom ever, ever. | ||
| When UKIP was a thing, when Nigel first burst on to the political scene, Net migration into the United Kingdom was about 300,000 a year. | ||
| Last year, there were a million people into the United Kingdom, a million visas that were issued. | ||
| And the general public's response to this over the last week has been, you know, as I said to you, by the way, last week on this show, Steve, that the two major political parties, you cannot put a cigarette paper between them. | ||
| There was a huge protest, I think it was in Parliament Square this weekend, against Sharia Supremacism, which was a real show of force by people. | ||
| Walk me through that. | ||
| Is that one of the things I think Nigel's looking at when he sees this kind of popular uprising in the UK, Rahim? | ||
| Well look, Nigel has often been at loggerheads with some of the more, let's say, working class street movements in the United Kingdom. | ||
| He's not a fan of kind of what he calls a little bit more boorish way of campaigning. | ||
| He really truly is a believer that you can unite people no matter where they come from, what religion or ethnicity they are. | ||
| I happen to disagree a little bit with him On that, and as you know, I've stood shoulder to shoulder with people like Tommy Robinson on stages in Whitehall, Westminster and beyond. | ||
| But yes, there was a very large street protest outside Parliament this weekend that saw thousands of people in opposition to Islamism in the UK, in opposition to Sharia supremacism, and they were chanting pro-Trump slogans, they were chanting Trump, Trump, Trump out there, and I suspect that, yeah, perhaps One of Nigel's thoughts here is that, hey, actually, we don't just need to be a protest movement. | ||
| We need to be a serious political party and give these people something to vote for at the ballot box. | ||
| Real quickly, I think you guys are the only ones that picked up the buried lead on the last sentence of all the official reports about the stabbing of the German police officer once again by one of these migrants. | ||
| Give me a minute on that, because just another example how the media is going to suppress all this. | ||
| And it goes back to really when you and I first got to talking about this in the early 2010s. | ||
| And these things first started occurring, and whether it was the Cologne mass rape scandal on New Year's Eve, whether it was the terror attacks that you saw in the United Kingdom, in France, in Germany and beyond, in Sweden, the grenade attacks, all of those things. | ||
| I said at the time, you know, what the political class and the political media tries to do here is to normalize these things, to make them commonplace, to a point where they don't even need to report on them, they don't feel like they need. | ||
| to report on them anymore, and this incident over the weekend in Germany really has drawn more attention to that attempt to bury these things. | ||
| Young people across Europe, and you'll see this in the European parliamentary elections, are more and more gravitating towards populist, right, nationalist political parties as a result of that cover-up. | ||
| And you can now see it taking place in the United States too, where almost every day, and we report on this, Jack Montgomery every week does a great migrant crime roundup for us over at the National Pulse, you see every day some illegal migrant, some quote unquote asylum seeker, Stabbing, shooting, kidnapping, drug trafficking, human trafficking, you name it. | ||
| And you will never see those headlines on NBC, on CNN, or beyond. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, what you saw this weekend in Germany was particularly heinous. | ||
| The video was stomach-churning, and it will narrow people's focus once again to what rot and ruin has been waged upon them by their own political representatives. | ||
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| Rahim, thank you very much. | ||
| I know we're going to be covering the European Parliamentary elections and Nigel's run for Parliament and, of course, everything that happens on 4th of July. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Talk about Sharia supremacism and nationalism. | ||
| Yoram Hazani is one of the world's leading experts, wrote one of the seminal works on nationalism, joins us from Israel today. | ||
| Yoram, we had something happen, and I got into a little bit with Joel Pollack and Rabbi Walecki and Michelle Bachman on the morning show, but I needed to have you on here. | ||
| There's something that happened that I've never seen in the United States where a president looks in the camera and gives a bald-faced lie. | ||
| And that is about this situation in Israel and this ceasefire deal. | ||
| I know you've had a weekend of intense political debate. | ||
| The War Cabinet met last night. | ||
| Can you give us, as we reach Monday evening, where exactly do we stand? | ||
| Because folks in the United States, particularly supporters of Israel, are absolutely, totally corn-fused now about what's going on. | ||
| Right, Steve. | ||
| That's not very surprising. | ||
| What you can see on the news is in fact pretty confusing. | ||
| Because we have Joe Biden, who you may remember, with regard to the Ukraine war, his position has been, as long as it takes, as long as it takes, even if people don't even know what the goal is, it's as long as it takes. | ||
| Whereas when it comes to the war in Israel, to the Gaza war, his statement is, this war's got to end now. | ||
| Now, this war's got to end. | ||
| Now, why? | ||
| Is that because it would be good for Israel? | ||
| That would be good for the democratic West, for our civilization? | ||
| Or is it simply, as I think most Israelis believe, is it simply the war's got to end even though none of its goals have been attained because Joe Biden is afraid that if this war goes on, he's going to lose the presidency. | ||
| Now, so Biden released a three-stage plan That uncoordinated with Israel. | ||
| That three-stage plan consists of phase one ceasefire. | ||
| Phase one is temporary ceasefire. | ||
| Phase two is permanent ceasefire. | ||
| And phase three is pour billions and billions of dollars into reconstructing Gaza. | ||
| Nowhere in this plan is there the elimination of the Hamas, the Islamo-Nazi terrorist organization that started this war. | ||
| So just imagine if it were towards the end of World War II and the Americans were being asked to accept a plan in which Hitler would continue to rule in Germany while tens of billions, hundreds of billions of dollars were poured into Germany while he was still in control. | ||
| So this is extremely confusing for the Israeli public and it's very difficult to understand for the American public. | ||
| And it's going to be a test for all of the leaders involved to see whether any kind of justice can be pulled out of this catastrophic mess of a foreign policy that the Biden administration has launched upon. | ||
| This whole confusion that came out today about, oh, some of the cabinet may have known about it. | ||
| Maybe they had discussions with Biden. | ||
| They didn't tell the War Cabinet. | ||
| They didn't tell the overall cabinet. | ||
| You've got the right wing that couldn't respond because it was the Sabbath in Israel. | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| Benny Gantz may drop out of the government. | ||
| Are we going to see a collapse of Netanyahu's War Cabinet, which is a coalition government, sir? | ||
| We've discussed that on this show before, that Biden is interested in eliminating Netanyahu for the same reason that he's interested in ending the war. | ||
| He thinks that if he eliminates Netanyahu, he believes that he'll have a pliable left of center Israeli government, which will cooperate | ||
| with him in ending the war and leaving Hamas in power, which he thinks will make it possible for | ||
| him to win the election in November. | ||
| Now, I think that he's grossly overestimating the willingness of the Israeli public or even | ||
| of the Israeli center left to go along with this plan. | ||
| Let's remember that the Israeli polls continue to this day to show close to 80 percent of | ||
| the Israeli public supports the aim of destroying Hamas as an unconditional aim of this war | ||
| effort. | ||
| Beyond that, we now have really unprecedented in, you know, in the last two generations | ||
| We have 75% of Israeli public opposes establishing a Palestinian state, which is Biden's declared aim. | ||
| And we have over 50% of the Israeli public now for the first time in generations Supporting direct Israeli control of Gaza. | ||
| Now, you may think that that's a good idea or a bad idea, but you have to understand where the Israeli public is. | ||
| Netanyahu does not have the option of accepting Biden's plan. | ||
| And I don't even think that Gantz has the option of accepting Biden's plan electorally. | ||
| So what we're looking at is something where the main action is not being spoken. | ||
| The main action, Biden trying to topple Bibi's government while at the same time, by the way, this goes in both directions, Netanyahu, in order to survive, politically has to defeat Hamas. | ||
| He can't accept the Biden plan. | ||
| And what that means is that Netanyahu has to do everything he can to make sure that Biden loses the election and Trump is elected. | ||
| So we have really a shootout at OK Corral. | ||
| Biden versus Bibi. | ||
| There's no way for both of these men to win. | ||
| Okay, here's what, from the MAGAR perspective, at least one, is that before the war started, you know, the MSNBC, you know, had, it was like a color revolution. | ||
| Every night there were protests in the street and they're saying how great it is and, you know, these secular Jewish people on MSNBC who hate Netanyahu. | ||
| And it looked very much like the summer of love without George Floyd that they used to | ||
| try to take out President Trump. | ||
| It looked like a color revolution. | ||
| I started to see a little bit, I think they had a few people in the streets. | ||
| Where do we, and here's what struck MAGA. | ||
| Many of the same characters that are on MSNBC every night and in the New York Times hating | ||
| on Trump and hating on MAGA. | ||
| They're hating on Netanyahu and hating on his coalition. | ||
| So, are we going to get back into that phase? | ||
| Because that seems to me the tiger that's below the house. | ||
| Did we see an inkling of that? | ||
| And did Biden regime give them enough hook to say, oh, these guys are recalcitrant, they just want to have genocide, they're not worried about peace, and they're not worried about getting their hostages back, sir? | ||
| Steve, we're already there. | ||
| I mean, I understand that the American media has other things to cover besides leftist protests in Tel Aviv, but we're already there. | ||
| We have a war in Gaza and a war, let's not forget, every single day and every night on the Lebanon border. | ||
| And at the same time, we have color revolution going on. | ||
| There's an internationally funded, internationally strategized coalition of the far Israeli left. | ||
| So far, it has not really picked up traction in Israel. | ||
| That's why you're not hearing about it. | ||
| But our highways are being blocked week in and week out. | ||
| The attempt to declare that Netanyahu is illegitimate has been going on for years, and the tactics are exactly the George Floyd riot tactics. | ||
| They're the same tactics that you're seeing on US campuses. | ||
| The fact is that they have not really succeeded yet. | ||
| In grabbing Israel's attention, as we said before, the Israeli polls do not show a lot of support for this leftist anti-war Peace Now effort in Tel Aviv. | ||
| It looks like a foreign implant to most Israelis. | ||
| But it's happening. | ||
| And you can expect that as things heat up, as Biden and the international left become more desperate to replace Netanyahu, you can expect that this is going to heat up. | ||
| Last question. | ||
| You have four combat brigades at a minimum in southern Gaza, Rafah. | ||
| You have at least two combat brigades, it appears, in Judea, Samaria. | ||
| You have the Persian militias and Hezbollah and all that on the northern border, which gets underreported. | ||
| Can Israel militarily win this war, sir, in your mind? | ||
| Yes, Steve. | ||
| I mean, you know, this is something we've gotten to watch the Israeli military now for For eight months, and we all know things that we didn't know eight months ago. | ||
| We know that Israel is capable of fighting simultaneously above the ground, below the ground, that it's capable of inflicting massive damage on Arab forces while maintaining a really kind of astonishingly low level of casualties among Israeli forces. | ||
| We know that Israel is capable of reentering the phase of its history where it relies heavily on a reserve military, where much of the adult male population is cycling in and out of the different war fronts. | ||
| All of these things are things that we didn't know eight months ago. | ||
| And right now it looks like Israel is militarily much stronger and much more capable than we thought. | ||
| Even the exchange with Iran, the exchange of fire with Iran, And makes Israel, made Israel look like a much more capable | ||
| power than maybe we had worried or suspected before that. | ||
| The problem is that since, from October, from the beginning of November, Israel has been | ||
| carrying the White House, the State Department, and the Defense Department on its back. | ||
| And we know from our soldiers at the front that the current battle in Rafief to take | ||
| over the last great Hamas stronghold in the south, the order to conquer Rafief has not | ||
| gone out to the soldiers yet. | ||
| There is fighting. | ||
| That fighting is street by street, and it's being navigated constantly on daily calls with the American government. | ||
| And we should be ashamed that Israel has to carry this monkey on its back. | ||
| And we should be ashamed that Americans should be ashamed that this is what the US president spends his time doing, is navigating street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood combat in Gaza, instead of worrying about China or the southern border, or the many other problems that he was elected to deal with. | ||
| It's painful to say this. | ||
| America is not allowing Israel to fight this war. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| And if you needed proof, I mean, a bald-faced lie, and he repeated it over and over, this is Israel's proposal, this is Israel's proposal. | ||
| I said when I was watching, that's got to be a lie because it didn't have the destruction of Hamas in it. | ||
| Yoram, I'm going to be one of the speakers at your National Conservatism Conference. | ||
| Can you give some people details of where they can go to get all the information? | ||
| I can't wait to have you there. | ||
| National Conservatism Conference in Washington, D.C., July 8th through 10th, three full days of the Nationalist Conservative View. | ||
| All of the best thinkers and speakers are going to be there. | ||
| And you can go online to nationalconservatism.com or natcon.com. | ||
| Either of those will work. | ||
| And sign up to come to the conference. | ||
| Can't wait. | ||
| Everybody there, it's going to be fantastic. | ||
| We're going to have a big turnout. | ||
| Yoram, where do people go to get your social media and all your writings? | ||
| More important now than ever, sir. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| YHazony, that's Y-H-A-Z-O-N-Y. | ||
| YHazony on Twitter, on Twitter.com, or I guess it's Twitter X these days. | ||
| And on Online, yoramchazoni.org. | ||
| That's one word, yoramchazoni.org. | ||
| My books are all there, my essays. | ||
| Happy to hear from everybody about what they think about them. | ||
| Brother, thank you so much. | ||
| Looking forward to seeing you in D.C. | ||
| Very good, sir. | ||
| Very tough situation in Israel. | ||
| That's what we had. | ||
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| With everything else going on in the week, President Trump, all the fights, Nigel Farage announced he's running for Parliament. | ||
| We had Rahim on to start the show. | ||
| I want to pivot now. | ||
| Ben Harnwell's done an incredible job. | ||
| There's been some great media in this. | ||
| The voting starts later in the week. | ||
| I'm going to play the call. | ||
| Ben's going to come on, jump right in, and then we'll let it rip from there. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play the call open. | ||
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The one election everyone in Europe cares about and is paying attention to is the American presidential election. | |
| The other thing that struck me is that almost every official I spoke to believed that Donald Trump was going to win again. | ||
| And they say that with a sense of dread, in some cases bordering on panic, honestly. | ||
| You know, the word that I heard... | ||
| Most often in these interviews was existential. | ||
| They said if Donald Trump comes back, you know, we made it through the first Trump term, right? | ||
| And it took a toll on the transatlantic relationship. | ||
| But they made it through. | ||
| They said if he comes back, given what he's been saying about NATO, given what he's been saying about Russia, the war in Ukraine, they're really afraid that it will be the end of NATO. | ||
| And the beginning of a new stage of Russian aggression that Europe, frankly, isn't prepared for without America's support. | ||
| We have seen in the United States populism and a, you know, really virulent strand of nationalism, anti-immigration that has really roiled our politics here. | ||
| What is happening in that front in Europe? | ||
| It looks from a distance that they're having some of the same issues internally within the conservative parties there, the anti-immigration, the populism. | ||
| Is that something that Europe is also worried about? | ||
| Oh, no question. | ||
| You know, the fear of Trump's return in Europe is of a piece with the fear of a broader rise of right-wing populism and nationalism across Europe. | ||
| We've seen it in the UK, we've seen it in Italy, in Germany. | ||
| AFD party, which is the far right party. | ||
| There was one recent poll that found that 25% of Germans now identify with that party, | ||
| and that's a pretty extreme party. | ||
| So there's no question that throughout Western democracies and really in Europe especially, | ||
| we've seen a lot of the same forces that have contributed to Trump's rise. | ||
| And so in some ways, the Europeans kind of understand Trump through that prism, right? | ||
| They're saying, you know, we get it. | ||
| We have our own issues here. | ||
| Some of our allies have elected leaders like Donald Trump. | ||
| But it's different when it happens in America, because America is not only the linchpin of | ||
| NATO alliance, it is in a lot of ways seen as kind of the big brother, right? | ||
| Right? | ||
| European countries rely on America for security. | ||
| They rely on it for leadership. | ||
| They rely on America to set an example to the world for what a well-functioning Western democracy should look like. | ||
| And a lot of the anxiety about this election in Europe stems from the fact that they're seeing this kind of chaos in American democracy and wondering if the city on a hill can still be looked to as an example. | ||
| And that causes a lot of alarm among our friends in Europe. | ||
| What other steps are he and his fellow European leaders taking to try to, if you will, Trump-proof what they're doing right now ahead of his possible return? | ||
| Yeah, there have been a number of efforts recently proposed. | ||
| One of them, as you mentioned, is, you know, developing defense autonomy in Europe in a way that would potentially channel funds away from NATO, which really does rely on America and toward the European Defense Alliance. | ||
| There's been talk of taking the responsibility for arming Ukraine, the literal logistical responsibility, out of America's hands and putting that in NATO's hands because they don't know if a future Trump administration would abandon the war or not. | ||
| And really the biggest change has been that a lot of European allies are spending a lot more now on their own defense. | ||
| And this is one thing that, you know, Trump takes credit for. | ||
| And I have to say a lot of the European officials I spoke to actually grudgingly gave him some credit for it. | ||
| They said, you know, Trump, by kind of being so vociferous about this issue that European allies aren't spending enough on defense, has sort of bullied a lot of these countries into spending | ||
| more, but it's come at a cost. | ||
| And that cost is that these European countries, while they are now spending more on collective | ||
| defense, contributing more to NATO, also don't trust America as a long-term ally the way | ||
| that they have for the last 75 years. | ||
| And when America becomes an unpredictable power or a transactional power, that changes | ||
| the entire global order in ways that I don't think we can predict right now. | ||
| Thanks very much, Steve. | ||
| You know what, I'm just going to respond briefly, if I may, to the Nigel Farage development first, and then go to the McKay Coppins thing on hits that we've just heard on the MSNBC. | ||
| Look, as far as I'm concerned, let's look at what Nigel said here. | ||
| He said that there is a rejection of the political class going on in this country in a way that has not been seen in modern times. | ||
| And I genuinely believe that we can get more votes in this election than the Conservative Party. | ||
| They are, he says, On the verge of total collapse. | ||
| Look, I think there's a real direct relation, a direct straight line here between this development, between Nigel retaking the leadership of Reform UK and the general electoral conditions that have demanded that this event and what they're discussing on Morning Meeker. | ||
| The point here is that the Tory party has... | ||
| For decades, since Margaret Thatcher got gotten away with this lie, that basically, where else will people go? | ||
| We can come as close to the centre as we feel we have to, because beyond us, beyond us on the right flank, there are no alternatives. | ||
| There's nowhere for people to go. | ||
| And they've really abused that position of authority that they have. | ||
| And that's why it's absolutely essential. | ||
| And by the way, I'll just add, Steve, That I think my take on this, you know, I'm sure Reform UK, I'm sure Nigel's going to swear blind this isn't true. | ||
| The actual enemy, the objective in this is to wipe out the Tory party. | ||
| It's not to put a break on the Labour Party, on Keir Starmer. | ||
| It's to destroy the cancer That is the Troy Party, because it's not the Conservative Party anymore. | ||
| It's been totally taken over by these parasitical globalists. | ||
| So, look, with that in mind, let's come back now to what the Atlantic guy, Macquarie Coppins, was saying on MSNBC. | ||
| He said, he's closing, I'll start from the end, if I may, Steve, and just work back. | ||
| He says, America as a transactional power changes the global order. | ||
| And of course, they're all sort of melting down at the prospect of this. | ||
| And, you know, he built that on his opening words that everyone he's spoken to in Europe Why are they having a nervous breakdown at the idea that America should, under Trump, under a second Trump mandate, will be a transactional power? | ||
| What is so terrifying for them about having a president in charge of the country who is transactional about his relationships? | ||
| who expects transactionally, if he's giving something out for other countries, that American | ||
| taxpayers are going to get something in return. | ||
| Why is that so horrific to these people? | ||
| Well, the answer is, when he said, he quoted the old Reaganite bromide that America was | ||
| a shining city on a hill. | ||
| And of course it was in the 1980s, throughout the Cold War, America and its cause for liberty was acting as a shining city on a hill. | ||
| The reason why the European elites are feeding back to the Atlantic, that they're absolutely | ||
| terrified, is because America is no longer the shining city on the hill. | ||
| Just as the British Tory party has been taken over by a class of what we call social pacifist | ||
| overlords, a parasitical class, so America has been betrayed repeatedly by its political | ||
| class, and instead of being this beacon for liberty right across the world in the face | ||
| of totalitarian oppression. | ||
| It's really, as this guy says, but in a different context, Steve, it is a linchpin on the world stage, but America is not a linchpin for democracy. | ||
| It's not really, not even in the sense of defense by NATO. | ||
| What America is as a linchpin is a linchpin for the globalist order, this international globalistic hegemonic order and that is what is sending the European elites into | ||
| an absolute meltdown. | ||
| And it's beautiful to watch, Steve. | ||
| So in the same way that we're going to see Nigel Farage give the British Conservative | ||
| Party a bloody nose, I hope we're going to see the same happen to our European corrupt | ||
| elites. | ||
| So the first one out of the box is going to be the European Parliamentary elections. | ||
| We'll be all over this every day in the run-up to it this weekend. | ||
| And then, of course, on 4th of July we have Nigel. | ||
| Right after that, President Trump will be sentenced. | ||
| The Republican National Convention. | ||
| It's going to be jammed, jammed, jammed. | ||
| for the next couple months. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, Brother Harnwell, thank you so much. | ||
| Tiananmen Square, you know, with my helping with the foundation of the new federal state of China, which is kind of what they argue is an alternative provisional government when the Chinese Communist Party falls by patriots throughout, quite frankly, mainland China and throughout the world, the expatriates of Lao-Beijing. | ||
| One thing we always try to do, it was formed on for June a couple years ago during during the pandemic in 2020 when we actually shut down the harbor was shut down so it's pretty amazing that we could launch it then but we always like to appropriately commemorate what happened in Tiananmen Square because I don't think it's well known and they and people haven't really done a good job of commemorating so Dr. Bradley Thayer | ||
| He's going to join us. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, thank you so much for joining us, and tell us, put us on Tiananmen Square, what led up to it, what happened that day. | ||
| Dr. Thayer. | ||
| Steve, thanks. | ||
| It's a great pleasure to join you again to talk about this very important topic. | ||
| As you noted, of course, it's Tomorrow morning in Beijing, where June 4th, of course, is the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre. | ||
| It's important to think through really what happened and then what the lessons and legacy are of Tiananmen Square. | ||
| So what happened was in the early morning of June 4th, 1989, the People's Liberation Army A clear Tiananmen Square, and in by so doing killed many hundreds and quite likely thousands of largely Chinese students, also workers as well, but largely students. | ||
| And that became known as the Tiananmen Square Massacre. | ||
| The protest that started in April of 1989 gradually spread. | ||
| in terms of the localists of Tiananmen Square, until there were many hundreds of thousands of people there. | ||
| But the army, under the leadership of Deng Xiaoping, ordered that that square be cleared. | ||
| And that was done on the morning of June 4th. | ||
| There was great instability afterwards and Tiananmen Square, of course, took place in smaller entities as well throughout China. | ||
| Many, many dozens of cities throughout China witnessed similar protests. | ||
| So the bottom line is that the Chinese Communist Party crushed a nascent democracy movement. | ||
| The legacy of that, of course, is very significant because it shows the lessons for the rest of the world, for the American people, for the audience to understand this is what the Chinese Communist Party will do. | ||
| They have a long history of killing their own people under Mao Zedong or Deng Xiaoping or right now under communist dictator Xi Jinping. | ||
| And so we should never underestimate the tyranny of this regime. | ||
| The legacy also remains that democracy, of course, is a very powerful impetus in China today. | ||
| Taiwan demonstrates what China may become at some point, a free democracy, vibrant democracy, which is why it's so important that the Chinese Communist Party crush Taiwan and conquer it as they're crushing Hong Kong presently, | ||
| because Hong Kong is also a symbol of a better political system than the | ||
| communist tyranny. | ||
| Additional lessons of this massacre are that the Chinese Communist Party will stop at nothing | ||
| to stay in control. | ||
| They saw the fall of the Soviet Union, and Deng Xiaoping and his successors up to Xi | ||
| Jinping today are determined not to yield to any type of political reform or protest. | ||
| Another telling legacy is also how high technology, advanced technology, helps the CCP maintain control. | ||
| Where you had Tiananmen Square 35 years ago, today you have a social credit system, you have essentially information processing technology that makes policing the Chinese people far more effective for the Party. | ||
| That's sad to note, but that's a simple fact. | ||
| of the situation today. | ||
| So you may recall and the audience may recall the blank page protests in November, December of 2022, where the party was able to ensure that those protests could not spread. | ||
| You couldn't have another Tiananmen because of their tight control over all information processing technology. | ||
| So the legacy of Tiananmen, in essence, is democracy and the impetus for democracy remains. | ||
| Secondly, the tyranny of the Communist Party, their brutal, tyrannical force that will stop at nothing from maintaining their control in the People's Republic of China over the Chinese people. | ||
| And thirdly, the legacy is also that it shows the true nature of the regime for the American people, for the audience to understand. | ||
| of the nature of this tyranny, why it's a center of evil in the modern world, and why people of goodwill around the world—people in China, the Chinese diaspora, the American people, and others around the world—need to stand with the Chinese people to evict the illegitimate regime, the Chinese Communist Party, from power, because it's a source of hyper-oppression that needs to be eliminated. | ||
| We're trying to cram everything else and saying we are going to have Ben every day join us to talk about difference. | ||
| We're going to drill down to some of the specifics of the European parliamentary election. | ||
| Very important to our movement. | ||
| Also, I want to thank Dr. Bradley Thayer tomorrow. | ||
| We're going to try to get him and Captain Fennell on to talk about Tiananmen and bring it forward to to the crisis we have. | ||
| in Taiwan today. | ||
| They did a magnificent job the other day on the six o'clock hour, so I want to thank Dr. Thayer and everybody. | ||
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| Also, everything else is going on with cyber. | ||
| Okay, the great Lou Dobbs follows us We're going to be back here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning. | ||
| We're going to get into Capital Markets, Economics. | ||
| Dave Bradscon and Jeremy Scott Besant. | ||
| We have so much more. | ||
| Commemoration of Tiananmen Square. | ||
| The D-Day commemoration on Thursday. | ||
| President Trump in Arizona on Thursday. | ||
| It's going to be a packed week. | ||
| Blue Dops next. | ||
| We'll be back here live 10 a.m. | ||
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