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June 3, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3657: Failure Of Jim Jordan; Giving Up The Sovereignty Of The US
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natalie winters
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steve bannon
17:44
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anthony fauci
02:06
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crom carmichael
02:47
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marjorie taylor greene
01:14
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mike howell
04:01
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jake tapper
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mike lindell
00:55
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unidentified
Thank you for your decades of public service.
You served your country through multiple epidemics, pandemics, and health crises.
I do want to say I'm sorry about the threats that you have received.
As someone who's been shot at and received threats as well, my heart goes out to you.
This should never happen in America.
Regardless of any disagreements we may have, you chose to serve, and I want to extend our appreciation and gratitude.
I want to thank you publicly for working with our doctors caucus during Operation Warp Speed and the time you spent with us and Dr. Collins.
I also want to thank you for your willing cooperation with the select subcommittee.
You have voluntarily sat for more than 14 hours of testimony and are appearing voluntarily today.
This is more than we can say about other witnesses we have called and we appreciate it.
I'm going to go through a list of COVID mitigation measures that you supported over the course of the pandemic and ask you to give me a yes or no as to whether you believe these measures were justified.
Business closures?
anthony fauci
Early on when 5,000 people were dying a day, yes.
unidentified
Church closures?
anthony fauci
Same thing.
unidentified
School closures?
anthony fauci
Again.
unidentified
Stay-at-home orders?
anthony fauci
These were important when we were trying to stop the tsunami of deaths that were occurring early on.
How long you kept them going is debatable.
unidentified
Mask mandates for adults, mask mandates for children, mask mandates for children under five.
anthony fauci
And going back to what I said before, all of that is in the context of at the time fortifies...
unidentified
There was no study that did masks on kids before.
You couldn't do the study.
anthony fauci
Excuse me?
unidentified
Mask mandates for children under five.
There's scientific evidence supporting that.
anthony fauci
There was no study that did masks on kids before.
You couldn't do the study.
You had to respond to an epidemic that was killing 4,000 to 5,000 Americans per day.
unidentified
Vaccine mandates for employees.
Vaccine mandates for students.
Vaccine mandates for military.
anthony fauci
Vaccines save lives.
It is very, very clear that vaccines have saved hundreds of thousands of Americans and millions of people worldwide.
unidentified
I'm not debating.
We're talking about the COVID-19.
Did or do the vaccines, the COVID-19 vaccines, stop anyone from getting COVID?
anthony fauci
I answered that question to the chairman.
Early on, it became clear that... They did?
No, actually, no.
In the beginning, it clearly prevented infection in a certain percentage of people, but the durability of its ability to prevent infection was not long.
It was measured in months.
unidentified
And they didn't stop you from spreading it either?
anthony fauci
Early on, it did if it prevented infection, but what became clear that it did not prevent transmission when the ability to prevent infection waned.
unidentified
But we knew from the trials that people that got vaccinated still were subject to getting COVID.
So was the COVID vaccine 100% effective?
anthony fauci
I don't believe any vaccine is 100% effective.
marjorie taylor greene
Your science is displayed perfectly in this picture.
Where children, children in school were put in plastic bubbles because of your science.
Your repulsive, evil science.
And let's go back to your very own email.
You said earlier you don't use email.
Oh, you do.
Right here.
This is your own email where you said the typical mask you buy in the drugstore is not really effective in keeping out virus.
I do not recommend that you wear a mask.
This is your email.
This is your own words.
But yet children Children all over America were forced to wear masks.
Healthy children forced to wear masks, muzzled in their schools.
And then they were forced to learn from home because of your so-called science and your medical suggestions while you and all your cronies get paid from Big Pharma.
You know what this committee should be doing?
We should be recommending you to be prosecuted.
We should be writing a criminal referral because you should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
You belong in prison, Dr. Fauci.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Monday, 3 June in the year of our Lord 2024, an explosive way to start off the week.
I'm going to get to the Natalie Winters going to join us in a moment.
We've got some more clips from this hearing today with Dr. Fauci, but I want to start right before we came on breaking news on Capitol Hill, Jim Jordan.
And I've got Mike Howe here from the Heritage Foundation.
Jim Jordan announcing, I guess they're going to defund.
People are talking about even shutting down the government on September 30th.
They're going to defund DOJ.
They're going to defund the Special Counsel.
Now they're going to defund the FBI.
A lot of activity coming out of Jim Jordan today.
On not just the further investigations, but the defunding side.
Mike Howe, you had some comments on this on Twitter over the last couple days of your thoughts.
Just give them perspective.
Is Jordan doing enough?
Is judiciary doing enough?
Is this focus?
Because they're now they're dropping mini bombs all afternoon, sir.
mike howell
No, absolutely not.
I don't think anyone thinks enough is being done at all.
It's been a year and a half of pen pal games with Merrick Garland and others in the weaponized Biden administration where compliance has been refused.
There has been no consequences whatsoever.
In fact, only rewards.
The fact that we're talking about defunding at a later date, That close to, you know, the potential turnover in the administration is absurd.
We just gave Biden everything he ever wanted out of Capitol Hill over the last three and a half years.
No one's getting defunded at this point.
And so I think right now the most interesting suggestion that's positive, substantial and significant is that Congress should appoint a legislative special counsel.
They have over $10 million in unused funds from the January 6 budget levels that they had access to and chose not to use.
And so if Congress doesn't want to quit the pen pal games, the money should go to someone who can go out there with the full force of Congress behind them at the get go and actually get the results that everybody was promised were coming at the beginning of this Congress and haven't shown up at all.
steve bannon
So Mike, let me hit rewind because I want people to jump on this.
You're saying there's money left over from some of these special counsel investigations.
I think I read in your tweet $10 million something.
You're saying that they shouldn't go back to the DOJ, they should just take that money that they've appropriated and use it for a legislative special counsel?
mike howell
Absolutely.
Concessions out of McCarthy to become Speaker was to establish a super committee at church-like levels from the Historical Church Committee, and that gave the House access to the January 6th committee levels of budget, which are about $15 million.
And so instead of staffing up that venture and building that committee, they've just done the business as usual pen pal games that Congress has always done.
Nothing paralleling what the January 6th committee did.
And so right now they're scheduled to give $10 million of those dollars back to Joe Biden at the end of this Congress.
What people I hear in D.C.
who really know what they're talking about are calling for is that $10 million should instead go to appoint an external special counsel for the legislative branch that then has the authority to issue subpoenas and enforce them, to litigate, to actually staff up and go out and hit these weaponized actors right where they deserve it and do it at a scale and speed which the House is both unwilling and incapable of doing.
steve bannon
Mike, we've had John Yoo, one of the most revered guys in the legal community on the right, saying we've got to go on offense.
And he's saying, hey, you have to be bringing investigations right now against Democrats.
You've got Andy McCarthy, who's been no Trump fan, saying essentially the same thing.
Megyn Kelly.
Going on offense saying the exact same thing, that you got to fight fire with fire here.
It's just going to get worse.
Even Matt Walsh, who's not been a big Trumper, saying all he's looking at in his scorecard is the rest of Democrats.
Do you think this is starting to build as this verdict sets in about exactly what went down?
Do you find In conservative circles, particularly some of the leading institutions and some of those are all frontline names, right?
They're all a names.
Are you seeing more people even behind the scenes talking about something's got to be done here?
mike howell
Absolutely.
And that's what the legislative special counsel idea that so many are pushing is.
It is a way to step up those activities that people are begging for.
Now, the Warren posse was onto this a year and a half ago when the Congress started that it wasn't likely to actually do what People were promised what happened, which is hardcore investigations and accountability.
And now it's expanded out to establishment circles.
This is basically party-wide across the right wing that something has to be done.
The options are do something or die at this point.
It is, they have gotten away everything through the course of the treasonous turn of the intelligence committee or community against Donald Trump, you know, 10 years ago, almost.
Up until what they've done to January 6th political prisoners, pro-life protesters, and now in their biggest event yet, convicting President Trump in Kangaroo Court up in New York.
And so it won't stop until there's a response.
So our options are to either have that response or be political prisoners and die in our own country.
And I think we know what the answer needs to be.
steve bannon
Mike, before I let you go, I want to pivot.
Your investigative team does such a great job on the cell phones and the NGOs and all that.
Tomorrow, there's all these Democrat border mayors coming up.
Biden's going to announce, you know, as tough of measures as he can announce, to try to say that he's doing something on the border.
How phony is this, sir, after for four years they initiated and exacerbated an invasion of our country?
Tomorrow he's going to seem like he's saying that he's going to shut the border and begin the deportations.
Your thoughts, sir?
mike howell
I think what Biden has done in the border is probably the biggest constitutional abuse we've seen in the national security sphere.
He's opened the border, given up sovereign control of the United States, all for a political design.
He has changed the demos of the democracy that, you know, is the U.S., although we're actually a constitutional republic.
He has brought in so many illegal aliens and then has his cronies out there fighting to make sure that they are able to vote, that he is banking on them being his margin of victory in November on the back of illegal aliens plus criminals throughout this country.
And so his remarks tomorrow won't do anything to stem the tide.
In fact, he just basically granted amnesty to well over a quarter million of them the other day by dismissing their asylum claims.
They're no longer in removal proceedings.
He has changed the demographics of this country without the will of the people, and that is an attack on democracy.
steve bannon
By the way, Mike Howell just mentioned a big story in the New York Post.
We're going to have Todd Bensman on tomorrow to talk about that.
I think the number is 325,000 removed.
They took them out of the asylum removal and essentially granted them amnesty.
Another shocking development on the invasion of our beloved Republic.
Mike Howell, how do people get to you?
Particularly, I know everybody's going to want to focus on your thinking on this legislative special counsel, social media, and where they go over heritage.
mike howell
I'm at EmHowTweets on X, but follow us at Oversight in the letters PR.
We're going to get the audio tape of Joe Biden's criminal interview with special counsel Hur out.
They claimed executive privilege against us on Friday night, said it could be used for a deepfake.
I look forward to litigating this issue further in court.
We're going to take it all the way and get the tape to the American people.
steve bannon
You know, sometimes I kind of wish that you and your team over at Heritage were running oversight, but hey, that's just a thought.
Mike Howell, thank you so much.
unidentified
Appreciate it.
mike howell
Thanks for having me on.
steve bannon
How is a brawler?
I think this legislative idea is absolutely perfect.
Something's got to be done.
And with Jim Jordan, these guys, we understand you're getting a lot of heat from the Warren posse.
You're trying to do something, but we've waited so long.
You can't be talking about the defunding.
You just voted and approved and didn't fight the entire funding of the apparatus before.
We didn't even pull out the FBI headquarters.
So people have to be held accountable.
And I think the action is what needs to be done now.
Here's what I would tell the audience.
There's a lot of very smart people.
When John Yoo writes that amazing piece in National Review.
Did I use that in one sentence?
Amazing piece in National Review?
It was.
And then Andy McCarthy.
Hey, you've even seen Larry.
He's kind of on point.
Rich Lowry.
I think because it's so outrageous.
And those guys, you know, Lowry and McCarthy, they know New York City.
I think people are so stunned about what happened in New York.
And this is going to have massive implications for businesses in New York.
You're going to see even a bigger flight of businesses down to Miami and other places, to Dallas, Miami.
You're going to see new financial centers.
I mean, major financial centers start to sprout up, I think, in those two cities, particularly from what's happening in New York.
And it was all brought on by Alvin Bragg and Tish James in this, and people are absolutely shocked about it.
Also, you know about this, their excuse for not turning over the tapes?
Oh, you can create AI on it and it'll be all kind of fun.
No, they don't want the tapes to come out because of what Biden said.
They've already tampered with the write-up of it, the transcripts.
They don't want you to hear it.
Okay, Natalie Winters is going to join us.
She's going to give it to us with both barrels of her thoughts today.
Boy, do I wish we had Natalie Winters answering the questions.
Certainly we do.
We'll talk about that.
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anthony fauci
Everything from harassments by emails, texts, letters of myself, my wife, my three daughters.
There have been credible death threats leading to the arrests of two individuals.
And credible death threats means someone who clearly was on their way to kill me.
And it's required my having protective services essentially all the time.
It is very troublesome to me.
It is much more troublesome because they've involved my wife and my three daughters.
unidentified
At this moment, how do you feel?
Keep your mic on.
anthony fauci
Terrible.
unidentified
Do you continue to receive threats today?
anthony fauci
Yes, I do.
Every time someone gets up and says I'm responsible for the death of people throughout the world, the death threats go up.
steve bannon
Wow, is he not responsible?
I guess we gotta go to the videotape.
We gotta go to the receipts.
Natalie Winters, you've been on this for years now, ma'am.
We started the pandemic portion of this show away from impeachment back in mid-January of 2020.
One of the very first people we focused on, I think it was on the 27th of January, was this guy Tony Fauci, and the reason was he went head-to-head with Dr. Peter Navarro.
Yes, that Dr. Peter Navarro who's currently in federal prison because they want him off the playing field.
Dr. Peter Navarro is writing A quite long and pointed editorial for the Washington Times, best op-ed section in the world.
I will read it in its entirety tomorrow when I get it tonight.
It'll be on the show.
Dr. Peter Navarro.
So he clashed with Navarro right off the bat about restricting travel from China right at the beginning in the national security Uh, rooms right below the West Wing of the White House, the Kennedy Room, the famous Kennedy Room, and Fauci told him, well, it doesn't matter.
It's, you know, not a big deal.
Uh, Dr. Navarro advising Trump, President Trump then, and thank God President Trump listened to Navarro, not to Fauci.
Uh, Natalie Werners, you've been on this from the beginning.
Give us your assessment, ma'am.
natalie winters
I think the best part of that clip we just watched is when that Democratic Congressman says, keep your mic on.
Because I think that sort of speaks to what today is hearing the function that it was supposed to perform.
Now, of course, we could sit here and pretend to have, you know, a dialogue and discussion
where we go through all of the admissions that Anthony Fauci, you know, tacitly made
that we've known to be true for years, especially on this show.
I'd point people to look at the transcribed interview where he admits that the six foot social distancing metric
was just sort of created out of thin air in the style of Francis Collins,
the other director of the National Institutes of Health.
But I think it's important to look at today's hearing in the broader context of sort of the evolving dialogue
and discussion about the origins of COVID-19 and frankly, how the Biden regime,
really how the elites are sort of trying to shape this discussion.
And what I mean by that, this Fauci testimony is coming after.
The, of course, infamous hearing that Peter Daszak had, right?
Not only did that lead to the debarment, or I guess at least the proceedings have commenced to make sure that EcoHealth Alliance, the group that received tax dollars from Anthony Fauci to fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology on bat coronaviruses, that was a rare display of actual bipartisanship And I know we don't like that word here in the war room, but it was Republicans and Democrats, really for the first time ever, actually working together on what I would say a fairly substantive hearing to expose Peter Doshack as the liar and fraud that he is.
Now, what did we warn when we sort of did the rundown of that hearing?
That he was going to be the fall guy.
And sort of a limited hangout style operation.
So now enter the Anthony Fauci hearing.
And of course, it's a little intermission when you see the mainstream media suddenly embracing COVID-19 vaccine injuries, right?
Daring to talk about it.
Ashish Jha, Biden's COVID-19 response director, saying, what do you mean?
We actually take all your COVID-19 vaccine claims seriously.
We're really going to look into this stuff.
Then enter Anthony Fauci.
Now, I know in the cold open, people may be surprised that half of the people who were slobbering over Anthony Fauci in those clips were Republicans, i.e.
the ranking member of that committee, Dr. Brad Wenstrup, saying, thank you, Dr. Fauci, for everything you've done on vaccines and public health.
You're a hero.
Not necessarily the opening salvo that I would have gone for if I were questioning Anthony Fauci, but it's important to, I think, look at today's hearing sort of in that context.
In other words, perpetuating this limited hangout whereby they want to run with the narrative that is Peter Daszak, EcoHealth Alliance, it was a one-off mistake, that they were funded and that they were collaborating with
the Chinese Communist Party.
But in reality, something is extremely rotten at the National Institutes of Health.
And by that, I mean this pandemic was not a result of incompetence,
but I would go so far as to say a result of intentionality, certainly on the sides of the
Chinese Communist Party. Just look at their bioweapons programs and look at what the
People's Liberation Army was doing at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. But I don't think today's
hearing adequately got to the core issue, the there there, which should be, was the National
Institutes of Health, particularly the NIAID, the agency that Anthony Fauci led.
How aware were they of it? Because I don't think that the incompetence narrative really holds any
water when you see the type of viruses that they were playing with. So there were a lot of moments
where Anthony Fauci, you know, where he admits that there wasn't really any science, right,
with the mask mandates for the kids. He admits that the vaccines, you know, oh, well, they
weren't really safe and effective.
We don't really know.
But in the beginning, they were.
But honestly, I think Republicans sort of missed the mark, which they seem to have a masochistic tendency to want to do that.
They just love failing.
And I would say the best part and honestly see why we keep losing.
If you want to be blunt in this hearing, that should have been Our heyday for exposing this liar.
I know this is a family-friendly program, and I don't like to cuss, so I won't, but Anthony Fauci for what he is.
The Democrats used this hearing to try to push for more pandemic prevention funding, more mRNA vaccine development funding, and to praise Anthony Fauci's record on protecting pandemics and, frankly, lay the predicate for more censorship for anti-science and anti-vaccine narratives.
That is punching with an iron fist.
That is ruling in the style of Nancy Pelosi.
I think MTG did a good job.
But besides that, Republicans are playing for viral Twitter clips, and Democrats are playing not just to run this country, but to quite literally force you to take experimental genetic therapies, censor your ability to speak out about it, and silence your five-year-old and under children, not rooted in anything scientific, just on their feeling, probably sponsored by Big Pharma of the day.
steve bannon
I want to go back to the beginning of this.
Tell me, how possibly could you be the chairman of the subcommittee on this?
And I'm just saying, your experience in the three, three and a half, almost four years that you've been on top of this in very detailed investigations.
How could you, what planet would you have to be on to give the opening that the good doctor gave Fauci, ma'am?
natalie winters
A planet that is funded by big pharma and a desire to still be invited to Capitol Hill parties, and frankly that's the problem with every investigative committee that we see going on right now.
I always joke, I don't like to often talk about myself in a hyping way, but I was 19, 18 I think when I started doing reporting on a lot of this stuff.
I should not exist.
You know what I'm saying?
There should have been people doing that work, and there are hordes of wonderful investigative reporters, but we live in an ecosystem where people like Brad Wenstrup are elevated to be the chairman of the COVID Select Committee.
I don't even think he actually really knows the true story about the origins of COVID.
They just want to throw down on the Chinese Communist Party, and that's the telltale sign.
That you're dealing with these establishment Republicans, right?
They always love to talk tough on China.
Then when you tell them, okay, fine, cut off their access to our financial markets, delist them from the stock exchange, they won't actually ever do anything, right?
That's the rhino's favorite talking point about how we have to, oh, we have to get tough on the Chinese Communist Party.
But that's where they missed the mark on today's hearing.
Yes, the origins of COVID, an integral part of it is the Chinese Communist Party, but as the Warren posse and as most Americans well know, The Chinese Communist Party is only able to inflict their damage on this country.
Managed decline, it takes two to tango, right?
And that is epitomized by people like Anthony Fauci, who not just openly whacks on about how great the Chinese Communist Party is and why we need scientific collaboration with them, but in action, in practice, I'm so glad we keep giving Anthony Fauci the chance, you know, to perjure himself and to basically run circles around Republicans.
It's so in your face.
It's so insulting to the intelligence of the American people.
ballots plan while concurrently being on the US taxpayer dole.
I don't really understand what Republicans were hoping to achieve today.
I'm so glad we keep giving Anthony Fauci the chance to perjure himself and to basically
run circles around Republicans.
It's so in your face.
It's so insulting to the intelligence of the American people.
And like I said, Democrats used the hearing to push for more funding.
They didn't even just go for vaccine funding.
They went all the way to the wall for mRNA vaccine funding.
So when you have people like Brad Wenstrup, who frankly have used this committee to run cover for Anthony Fauci, maybe every now and then try to look a little bit difficult.
And of course, they'll sell Peter Doshak down the river because at the end of the day, making him look like a klutz, right, actually helps kind of the establishment because they can write him off as the fall guy.
This committee is part of the cover-up operation.
unidentified
I would say as bad if not worse than the Chinese Communist Party.
steve bannon
I'll do part of this now.
I tell you what, I want you to hang because I've got I think 12 or 14 minutes in the C-block and I want to go back and just do a little timeline of exactly what happened and what has not been Even really discussed in any detail by this committee.
So Natalie, hang on, hang on, because I want to get back to the gain of function.
I want to get back to Fauci coming in and changing the restrictions that were put on by Obama about the cover-up, about WHO, which we had Michelle Bachmann on today.
The guys that lied about this at the beginning, now we're trying to give them full powers on a pandemic tree.
If they can't get that, they're going to change health regulations.
The same evil, demonic people in institutions that were at the beginning, when he talks about the 5,000 deaths a day, if that was true, 5,000 deaths a day, are the people still running the deal.
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steve bannon
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So, the gain of function, which is, let's say, gain of function, it's weaponization of viruses.
That shouldn't happen because we have bioweapons treaties.
Why do we have these bioweapons treaties?
Because the biological weapons, believe it or not, may actually be worse than the nuclear weapons.
Because of the lack of the ability to control nuclear weapons, you stop firing, of course you get radiation, you get dead people, it's horrible.
But biological weapons may spread and you can't control them, can't contain them.
So all these treaties, which the Chinese Communist Party has never lived by one of them.
So you have gain of function, it was being done, it was Obama's National Security Council that shut it down.
It was Fauci then wormed his way over to the Trump when they had, when he had, uh, I think Price had left at HHS.
Fauci went over there and talked to like the science and technology guys, but didn't really take it to the National Security Council.
But he and Collins got the thing unwound.
They could do it.
State Department, others kept sending email that this Wuhan lab that the French kind of built, the Wuhan lab was not ready and should not be run unless you had real supervision over there.
Fauci was actually in business with them.
Then, when the pandemic started, and it probably was back in 2019, but we knew about it in mid-January, the WHO, Tedros and his crowd, come out and lie and put out, oh, no human-to-human transmission, nothing going on in Wuhan, you know, the good doctor over there that died, nothing going on, nothing to see here.
The same WHO that's working on a pandemic treaty now.
And then gun-decking it by reversing and going to the health regulations.
You heard Michelle Bachmann, you've heard Norah Bin Laden on here so many times talking about it.
And then Fauci, and then what Fauci did when confronted by Peter Navarro, people knew what was going on, he actively covered this up.
In their emails, text messages, he actively covered up the NIH involvement in Wuhan lab, in the weaponization of the viruses and tried to have, they're the guys that try to cover up and come up with all this You know, it came from a bat in a cave and then it got to a fresh market over 9,000 miles, right?
Some guy brought a bat, bought a muskrat, and then they ate it.
It's lie after lie after lie, and he doesn't care about people's lives.
If you had, you would have immediately said, oh, oops, we were kind of working with these guys and here what's going on.
It was the crime and then the cover-up.
The crime and then the cover-up.
Natalie Winters, this is what drives me so crazy today.
You, War Room, many people, we've gone through this timeline over and over and over again and Fauci wasn't shy about this.
Fauci was on point on this cover-up.
Did any of that get brought up today in a coherent narrative with receipts so that not just the American people but the world could see that, ma'am?
natalie winters
Well, see if he doesn't care about lying because he doesn't have to because he knows no one's going to hold him accountable.
I mean, talk about a bald-faced lie.
I think they probably spent a third of the hearing, Anthony Fauci, insisting that his senior advisor of nearly a decade, that's the role, senior advisor to the director of NIAID, he insisted that this guy wasn't actually his senior advisor and that they never actually talked.
This is the same guy who was instructing and coaching people on how to avoid FOIA requests.
So for the same guy who thinks that he can lie his way out of saying that his senior advisor actually didn't even know the guy, like, you know, they met once a year, his office wasn't even next to mine, that seriously was his answer to the questions when people were asking them about dodging FOIAs.
Of course he's going to think he can get away about lying.
about gain-of-function research. And you bring up really a brilliant point when it comes to the
term, the definition that is gain-of-function research, right? It's this kind of nice
marketing consulting firm punchy spin on what is the souping up the intentional increasing of
lethality, virulence, and transmissibility of deadly, very deadly pathogens. And what's so
funny is that back in those years you were talking about, right, 2014, when you see the
ban instituted, it was also, it went under the term of dual use research of concern or DERC for short.
And in 2014 through 2017, the NSABB, a lot of these taxpayer-funded scientists, who coincidentally seem to be people like Ralph Baric, People like Peter Daszak, people who, you know, there's always an element of pattern recognition in all of this, right?
The same people always seem to sort of be spearheading the charge, whether it's for more funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, reverse the ban on gain-of-function research.
Oh, but COVID-19, it totally developed naturally in a wet market.
There's an interesting convergence there.
But remember, back through 2014, when they were having these deliberations, Anthony Fauci had come out in support of gain-of-function research, of that dual-use research of concern.
People like Ralph Baric, scientists who received collectively millions, tens of millions of dollars from Anthony Fauci, were coming out in support of this.
Like I said, the very same scientists who then somehow conveniently ended up on the World Health Organization's COVID-19 Origins Investigations Team.
And then you see 2017, it was December 19th or something, you see that flip in the policy.
Of course, it sort of happens underground, right?
It's not really something that's super talked about because it's not something that has
popular support, because how can you sell to the American people the intentional, you
know, increasingly fallity, not just of deadly viruses here, but in labs run by the Chinese
Communist Party, the People's Liberation Army.
I mean, that's like a horror movie that you'd probably get thrown out of a Hollywood casting
room for suggesting because it's so beyond the pale.
But no, Anthony Fauci didn't just fund one-off research at the lab at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
This was a systemic thing going on.
We just know about the Wuhan Institute of Virology because they were one of the few facilities with a biosafety level 3 and biosafety level 4 facility where they could do at least per regulation some of these higher level more manipulative
type research designs and of course they received those humanized mice models from Ralph Baric.
But no one really got into the nitty gritty of this with Anthony Fauci. In other words why did you want to overturn
the ban on gain of function research.
Do you know who has a very large interest in gain-of-function research being able to happen, who also apparently seems to have a very large financial stake?
Taxpayer-funded researchers, as they alluded to today in the hearing, I believe $710 million And royalties from Big Pharma going to researchers since the COVID-19 pandemic.
Big Pharma!
Because that's how they're able to reverse engineer, right, these vaccines.
And they spin all this vaccine research as something that's super great for humanity, and this is technological advancements to the finest degree.
No, it's not.
The way that they're able to predict very conveniently all these pandemics, right, sort of in the style of,
you know, Bill Gates and the Rockefeller Foundation is because they're the ones creating the viruses.
They're the ones that are able to, whether you want to say predict or create, right,
what the next strain, what the next pandemic is gonna be, it's really convenient when they're also the ones
that are manufacturing the vaccines.
So the fact that no one really got into that, or I think really drilled down on the big pharma stuff,
they just sort of stuck to, frankly, the surface level talking point, you know,
oh, did you make any money from the pandemic off of big pharma entities or royalties?
And then he can sit there and say, well, technically, no, because the one patent that I filed, I only get $120 a year from, right?
He's very smart.
He's very sneaky.
He's very able to kind of skirt questions that are asked very poorly.
But, frankly, it's not even about Anthony Fauci.
It's that the members of Congress that are asking these questions, they're just not substantive.
They don't reflect any actual knowledge or understanding of the issue at hand.
This isn't an issue of public health gone wrong or experts not understanding pandemic prevention.
Those Republicans would probably fall for the lie.
Right?
That people like Bill Gates are actually interested in preventing pandemics.
The Rockefeller Foundation, CEPI, the Gavi Vaccine Alliance, the World Health Organization, all these weird, strange groups that all they care about is power.
They think that they're actually altruistic in their motives.
Looking no further than the fact that have any of these people actually mounted a significant defense to the pandemic treaty with the World Health Organization?
You think they would have fought for that in the NDAA or in any of these debt ceiling negotiations?
No, the only reason that the WHO pandemic treaty stopped was because the war on policy and people like Michelle Bachmann and the Committee on Present Danger China, the grassroots picked up the slack.
But it's just about time that these Republicans, who have some semblance of power, Actually exercise it.
Otherwise, I mean, honestly, I would go so far as to say that Anthony Fauci left the hearing today.
In some ways, it whitewashed his crimes because he now gets to be able to go and say, oh, well, they didn't produce any smoking gun evidence, right?
They just got some viral Twitter clips.
So frankly, I think those Republicans who just want to ask really horrendous questions that reflect absolutely no knowledge of anything at all should have just sat that one out and maybe given all their time to MTG.
steve bannon
This is, this is a, uh, it's a staff problem, too.
It's just not serious.
It's just not serious.
And you see this with the Jordan, and I realize these guys, but they're all, now it's performative.
They're gonna cut budgets off, they're gonna, you know, do all these investigations, everything's gonna flap around.
Why?
Because the war room's putting some heat on them.
And, and, you know, news organizations are picking it up.
Here today was a staff failure and a leadership failure.
Just a pure failure.
And we still have to get to the bottom of it.
One thing I can give you as a tell, though, Natalie Winters, is you don't see, now he may get some clips tonight and maybe one victory lap on MSNBC, but you don't see, they're not all in like they used to.
They actually know this is not defensible, right?
And if people were serious, we could rip it apart, or if we had people up there on the committee that were serious and with the resources they have, they could do it.
But you don't see You don't see any firebreaks that you used to a couple of years ago for Fauci.
They realize Fauci's damaged goods.
They just want to forget him.
Am I wrong in that you don't see the Times, New York Times, you don't see the Washington Post, MSNBC, they're not all in now on the defense of Fauci?
natalie winters
No, I think they were more, I would say, collectively all in on going after Peter Dorschach.
I think there really was a rare moment of unity, not just between Republicans and Democrats, but sort of a consensus in the press, right?
that what he did was wrong. Again, they chalk it up to institutional oversight and an error,
not to systemic rot. But even that piece in The New York Times today that you had sent me from
Dr. Alina Chan, who has been a leading voice on sort of the true origins of COVID-19. But again,
I think also why they're not really hardcore embracing Anthony Fauci.
I think it kind of goes back to at least my limited hangout critique of what you're seeing going on.
They just kind of want to pass them along, right?
They don't want it to fly above the radar and they know if they were to endorse him so publicly that people would kind of get a little ticked off again.
So if you read that New York Times op-ed, it is for their imbecile audience to sort of get caught up to speed on where the war has been for months.
steve bannon
And they have no problem throwing Adashik, he's just a cutout, throwing him under the bus.
Natalie, your analysis, reporting, investigation has been extraordinary.
Where do people go to get all your contact and touch points, ma'am?
natalie winters
Well, everyone except Peter Doshak, because he blocked me and something tells me he won't unblock me.
You can follow me.
Maybe, well, maybe, hey.
Actually, I feel bad for him.
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Our budding entrepreneur, Natalie Winters.
Ma'am, thank you.
And thank you for all the great work you're doing on this.
Appreciate it.
Um, not the best.
MTG is going to join us tomorrow, because once again, she lit people up, but not the best.
And this was a staffing issue.
This was, let's be brutally frank, it was just not serious.
To be serious, you've got to go in.
And Fauci, the crimes of Anthony Fauci are legion.
And we've got to get to the bottom of it to make sure it never happens again.
Now, I can tell you that in the second Trump term, this will be dealt with.
But once again, we shouldn't put all the burden of President Trump.
Other people got to pick up the slack.
And with controlling the House, but we saw it there, when my team put that together, I said, I don't want the Democrats open.
They said, oh, no, no, this is not.
This is the Republicans.
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