May 23, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| Yes, there are people who are coming out there in every primary still voting for her. | ||
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Are they going to take cues from her and say, okay, now I'm going to vote for Trump? | |
| Or are they simply like, well, you know what? | ||
| I really wasn't for Nikki Haley. | ||
| I was simply against Donald Trump and I'm going to stay that way. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think it's going to have that much of an effect. | ||
| I mean, you know, she's saying that she hopes that Donald Trump reaches out to her voters, but Donald Trump did nothing for her. | ||
| So Nikki Haley, in many ways, this is peak Nikki Haley. | ||
| She turns out to be a very, very cheap date for Donald Trump. | ||
| But this is a choice that she made. | ||
| It's a very different choice than Liz Cheney made, Adam Kinzinger made, Chris Christie made. | ||
| It's a different choice than Mike Pence made. | ||
| And I don't know that it actually makes that much of a difference. | ||
| But it's so revealing about, first of all, front and center, about her character. | ||
| I once wrote a piece called The Unbearable Lightness of Nikki. | ||
| So there's nothing surprising about her getting back on the Trump train. | ||
| She's gone on and off, she's gone on and off. | ||
| But to Joe's point, how do you make a full-throated defense of Ukraine? | ||
| And then turn around and endorse someone who has made it clear that he will pull out of NATO, that he will abandon Ukraine, who actually invited Vladimir Putin to invade Europe. | ||
| It makes no sense, except in the context of Nikki Haley's unbridled ambition. | ||
| And just one footnote here, that if you look at the screen of her endorsement, She's now affiliated with the Hudson Institute, which is one of the, you know, conservative think tanks out there. | ||
| The moment she signed up for that, I think it was inevitable she was going to endorse Donald Trump because this is what the Republican donor class demands. | ||
| There's no way that the Hudson Institute would embrace her unless she is going to basically bow the knee. | ||
| Thursday, 23 May 2024. | ||
| The history of Nikki Haley. | ||
| Um, bird brain. | ||
| Uh, but but but but but but how do I start? | ||
| Um, I could give you the backstory, but let's just cut to when she when did she resign in the Trump administration? | ||
| This was in President Trump was in a dogfight in 18 to hold the house. | ||
| And Nancy Pelosi had gone around, Nancy Pelosi had gone around and talked about getting people to do the, getting people to come out to vote that they're going to impeach Trump as soon as they took the house. | ||
| She pledged to people they were going to do it. | ||
| That's why they had so much enthusiasm. | ||
| They had a big, November 18th, they had a big day. | ||
| I made a film, I think it was Trump at War. | ||
| I went around the country, hey, this is going to happen, this is going to happen. | ||
| I think I want to hand it in the spring. | ||
| I said, hey, they're going to take the house because Paul Ryan didn't step down. | ||
| He just says, I'm going to retire. | ||
| But he didn't step away as Speaker. | ||
| He didn't put any energy in it because he knew he hated Trump. | ||
| He didn't mind turning over to Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| In October, with three weeks to go, in the middle of this dogfight, three weeks, Nikki Haley announces she's Resigning immediately as ambassador to the United Nations and leaving the Trump administration, it's like, what was on her dance card for three and a half weeks? | ||
| She couldn't wait till the evening, I think it was November 5th, 4th or 5th. | ||
| What was it she had to do that she couldn't? | ||
| She did it for one reason. | ||
| To signal to the donor class and to the media, I'm not with him. | ||
| Now I was in London giving a talk to hedge fund managers at Bloomberg's London or the City of London headquarters, really their kind of European and international headquarters, on capital markets and President Trump and MAGA and the MAGA economic plan. | ||
| And the guy, the editor there, first question, because it broke just when I was walking on stage, he said, hey, I just want to, Nikki Haley, you know, just resigned. | ||
| And I said, off the top of my head, I said, hey, it doesn't surprise me. | ||
| It shows you the maximum disloyalty. | ||
| You couldn't wait three and a half weeks and announce it on that night after the returns are in. | ||
| Hey, I'm punching out. | ||
| No. | ||
| She wanted to get ahead of the defeat and she wanted to signal I'm not with him. | ||
| And I said, to quote Milton in Paradise Lost, she's ambitious as Lucifer. | ||
| This woman, and I've noticed this as I've gotten involved in politics, the people with some of the least talent are the most ambitious. | ||
| Now when Trump calls her Burberry, this is a woman of real capacity issues. | ||
| Not particularly bright, you know, always repeats just the donor class, neoliberal neocon, over at the Hudson Institute, you know, the railhead of neocon-ism. | ||
| And her speech yesterday on national security, it was kind of like a junior high person writing a paper they had to get in before the Memorial Day weekend, right, to go on vacation with the parents. | ||
| But she's signaling right here this was what she announced yesterday and it shouldn't be lost on you folks that earlier in the day we had Laura Loomer on this very show and we lit up Nikki Haley about all the machinations she's trying to do to end at the at the convention and that's still going on that hasn't stopped. | ||
| The 2028 Presidential campaign, I know you want to hear this, right? | ||
| Started yesterday with Nikki Haley saying, I'm going to support Trump. | ||
| Cause she says, and here's what they're plotting. | ||
| Here's what they're plotting. | ||
| They're plotting right now, and you saw this in the $120 million put to the Congressional Leadership Fund by Paul Singer and all these guys. | ||
| Got Annie Dickerson over there. | ||
| Annie Dickerson's got her hands all over that. | ||
| You got Stephen Law at the Senate with the $70 million. | ||
| Oh, by the way, poor Carrie Lake didn't make the cut. | ||
| She did not make the cut. | ||
| They think they've got Trump boxed in, but they want a cover. | ||
| They want a cover bid here. | ||
| And here's what they're going to try to do. | ||
| Between now and the convention, they can't take the nomination from Trump, but they can cause a lot of grief. | ||
| Their plan is to get Nikki Haley on the ticket. | ||
| I know I hear the grinding of teeth in this audience right now, but folks, I told you, it's never gonna stop. | ||
| They're gonna try to get Nikki Haley on the ticket to say, this is the consensus, we bring the party together, this is unity, and hey, she came out and said she was gonna vote for you, man. | ||
| To get her on the ticket, and she thinks, and they're telling her, you'll be the Dick Cheney in heels In this administration, you'll be the prime minister and Trump will be the lame duck head from 11 o'clock at night on the 5th of November when Associated Press declares him the winner. | ||
| He will immediately become, at 11.01pm on the 5th of November of 2024, he will become a lame duck and Nikki Haley will be the prime minister. | ||
| Dave Brat, do you like my theory of the case? | ||
| Yeah, well, I saw her announcement and it just, it read way too crass for me in my reading. | ||
| You know, right after you, the timing is incredible too, right? | ||
| Watching some of my former members who vote for seven trillion dollar budgets and for Ukraine funding and no action on the border invasion, etc. | ||
| And then, you know, Republicans are just notorious for this. | ||
| And that's why there's been a realignment taking place with President Trump. | ||
| But they always, you know, they vote establishment. | ||
| And then right when the elections come on up, boy, they jump sides. | ||
| And so when she made her remarks, she said yes to President Trump kind of in passing. | ||
| But then, you know, now it was kind of flipped on him immediately to recognize her. | ||
| When, you know, what the country needs right now is just focus on the presidency. | ||
| We need to get President Trump in office. | ||
| We need to get two or three messaging points coming through the Speaker of the House. | ||
| And everybody knows what they are. | ||
| They're the war room issues. | ||
| But they don't want Trump. | ||
| And more than Trump, they don't want Trumpism. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| What she did yesterday was to say, I've got a plan here, guys. | ||
| I am savvy enough to know that I'm going to have to eat a little crow because I can't stand this guy. | ||
| And this is why the bulwark and everybody is so upset with her. | ||
| Why can't you be like Liz Cheney? | ||
| They want a complete turn back the clock to neoliberal, neocon, Bush administration. | ||
| That's never going to happen. | ||
| They're like the French royalty in the revolution. | ||
| They're like the Romanovs. | ||
| in Russia. You know, they're always, you know, you go to Europe, you get all these | ||
| counts and dukes from these families who have been out of business since 1914. | ||
| It's not going to happen. But she's, because in her ambition, since she's limited in IQ, | ||
| she's very cunning, very crafty, right? They've got this cunning plan that, hey, | ||
| we can have our cake and eat it too. | ||
| Because they think the MAGA people are dummies. | ||
| They think this is all Trump. | ||
| They think this is cult of personality, that the war room posse is a bunch of morons, whatever Trump says. | ||
| And if she can weasel in there, right, and with that serpent's tongue, you know, be telling Trump, hey, this is what we got to do. | ||
| Maybe, you know, we got to fight for liberty and freedom in the sovereignty of Ukraine. | ||
| They can win out here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I was getting at. | ||
| You come to a point when you gotta make your decision. | ||
| Are you with the Atlanticists and the globalists and the donor class and all this? | ||
| Or will you finally just put your trust in the American people like you're supposed to do in the first place, right? | ||
| And so that's the issue. | ||
| The base right now is getting very intelligent. | ||
| They can see through the messaging on everything instantly. | ||
| Even on economics, if I screw up a word on your show, I get hauled over the coals by the audience. | ||
| I mean, they're like, Dave, you're an idiot. | ||
| Who's the pencil neck? | ||
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Right? | |
| I mean, they're just, they're ripping on me. | ||
| And it's a good thing. | ||
| It's a good thing. | ||
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Right? | |
| And so the house isn't there yet. | ||
| They still got over a hundred rhinos in the middle. | ||
| And there's a few guys that are very smart, and if they can't read the politics right now, we're not going back. | ||
| We're not going back. | ||
| Those days are done. | ||
| The Romanovs will be back in St. | ||
| Petersburg before going back to that. | ||
| And you see what's coming, right? | ||
| The Fortune 500 CEOs, all political views are my own again, are very, Very much in hot water with the China news on Taiwan coming out. | ||
| And they're totally still linked at the hip with China. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Wait till that peaks. | ||
| The capital flows are going out of China big time. | ||
| The Chinese billionaires are going into crypto. | ||
| That's kind of fun. | ||
| That always happens right after they devalue, by the way. | ||
| There's a linkage there. | ||
| In a couple years, the realignment is going to be complete, and the U.S. | ||
| will take charge of itself again. | ||
| And all these bit players on the side are still dancing on the side, right? | ||
| And they won't commit to the American people. | ||
| And the commitment to the American people is for all of our own good, right? | ||
| For me, it's moral, right? | ||
| It's a moral decision that's not being made by our political leaders. | ||
| There's a couple things. | ||
| I'm trying to get Thayer and Captain Fanel on. | ||
| This thing in Taiwan is huge. | ||
| And as you know, we're the leaders in this anti-takedown the CCP. | ||
| But I'm trying to get them on either today on the 6 o'clock show or tomorrow to get them up. | ||
| Because Captain Fanel lives overseas, so we've got to work his schedule. | ||
| This thing's huge. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| At the same time they're doing a mass thing, the CEOs are adamantly fighting the decoupling from the CCP. | ||
| Because they understand how much it's going to affect their bottom line. | ||
| Before I let you go though, Axios, once again, they have to be a truth teller because the math, they sit there and they go, hey, after, you know, they're touting Mark Allen and those guys are touting Bidenomics and, you know, Biden and Trump's Caesar and Trump's terrible and War Room and a bunch of crazy people. | ||
| Every couple of days they got to come out with another economic story that just makes our case. | ||
| Yeah, well, and the other day you had a great piece on Bloomberg. | ||
| I'll get to that. | ||
| But first, if Denver wants to put up the Axios graph, this shows the share of U.S. | ||
| adults who say they're doing at least okay financially. | ||
| The title of the piece is, the folks aren't okay. | ||
| The folks are not okay. | ||
| Fewer parents say they're doing okay financially. | ||
| And the numbers are down dramatically, especially for those with kids. | ||
| There's a drop-off from 75% to 64% in just the last couple years of folks who say, we're not doing okay. | ||
| And for the rest of adults without kids, they're down 80% to about 75%. | ||
| In the last couple years. | ||
| And then the bombshell down below is two kids in daycare are more expensive than your mortgage now. | ||
| And so things are just fundamentally upside down in our economy. | ||
| The other day, Steve, you had on a great guy from Bloomberg who pointed out... Josh Green, yeah. | ||
| They did a deep dive on the numbers. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I think his analysis was spot on and they did a deep dive. | ||
| This is about the discretionary income. | ||
| Yeah, the incomes are down and inflation is up. | ||
| Those were two data points. | ||
| That crushes the Biden story. | ||
| And look at it mathematically. | ||
| Compared to Trump, the discretionary debauchery is not down. | ||
| It's only 25% of what Trump's was. | ||
| Way down. | ||
| only 25% of what Trump's was. I mean it's a massive and the cumulative inflation is huge. Right and then the only that's | ||
| all great and that that's the politics and whatever but to solve these | ||
| problems you got to look at And so, Denver, if you want to put up the green chart here, no one wants to pay attention to this because you've got to get out your number two pencil and whatever. | ||
| Hold on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Let's take a break. | ||
| You're not going to put up this productivity chart. | ||
| This magazine is so upset with War Room, and particularly Dave Brat, and Dave Brat's obsession with, who's the guy from University of Chicago, the productive Gordon? | ||
| Yeah, Robert Gordon. | ||
| Northwestern. | ||
| They're so upset. | ||
| We've triggered the economists so badly. | ||
| About his charts on productivity and going back to Gordon, they actually did a TikTok like four minute that was amazing and they go through every statistic to prove that it's not as bad. | ||
| We won't bore you with it. | ||
| Hey, it's very nuanced. | ||
| You got to be very nuanced. | ||
| Why don't you take a picture of the inner cities right now? | ||
| Illiteracy rates of 40% and I'll tell you what nuance is. | ||
| Are you nuts? | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
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| Were you a tennis pro first, a Hollywood movie star, or a theologian, or a congressman? | ||
| You've had so many interesting verticals. | ||
| Yeah, systematic theology. | ||
| I just want a systematic worldview that makes sense. | ||
| Was your forehand not that good and that's why you realized you weren't going to go pro? | ||
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No discipline. | |
| I'm mental. | ||
| I'm mental. | ||
| Any serious jock can beat me. | ||
| It was an art form. | ||
| So this all turned to systematic theology. | ||
| God, unbelievable. | ||
| Economics, and that's my love, because it's part of systematic theology, right? | ||
| If you examine the world as it is and you want to understand it, you better know economics. | ||
| Denver, if you want to put up the green chart again, this is just playing off the good reporting at Bloomberg, the guy who said two variables explain everything, inflation and earnings. | ||
| Let's deal with earnings first, all right? | ||
| So in the other day on this show, we showed that over the past 50 years, there's been a wealth transfer of $150 trillion from the middle class to the wealthy class. | ||
| and you say Dave that there's no way that can be well just just do the math | ||
| 150 years divided by 150 trillion divided by 50 years is three trillion | ||
| per year in wealth transfer right and so that there's many reasons for that but what the | ||
| chart up there shows is 70 years of productivity decline | ||
| in a row right There's been ups and downs along the way, but roughly speaking you go from three and a half to four, down to three, down to two percent. | ||
| This is Robert Gordon, Northwestern, 50 years in the field, the best of the best in the country on productivity, not from right-wing economics, etc. | ||
| And so this is what no one wants to explain. | ||
| And this is the check on all rosy scenarios. | ||
| And when people say the economy's doing great, this chart says otherwise. | ||
| This chart says we have heavy lifting to do. | ||
| And my good friend Peter Navarro, shout out to you, Peter. | ||
| This isn't about tweaking the marginal tax rate a percent or two. | ||
| This is about fundamentally restructuring the American economy along three lines. | ||
| The three lines that give you productivity. | ||
| Human capital. | ||
| The kids in our inner cities can't read. | ||
| The illiteracy rate is awful. | ||
| How are you going to help the middle class if 40% of kids can't read? | ||
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Right? | |
| And then putting capital in the hands of Americans, and then innovation and technological change. | ||
| All three of those go into that chart. | ||
| Next chart, Denver, is just, it's the most important chart. | ||
| I'm going around the country giving talks. | ||
| And it's just three numbers. | ||
| It shows for the next 30 years. | ||
| So the chart you just saw was the past 70 years. | ||
| Productivity is going down. | ||
| Here's the next 30 years. | ||
| Is there great news? | ||
| Is artificial intelligence, you know, in the models showing productivity taking off? | ||
| No, it's nowhere to be found. | ||
| Instead, productivity is at 1.9% right now. | ||
| It's going down to 1.6 in the next decade and going down to 1.5% in 30 years from now. | ||
| That is the lived experience you're feeling. | ||
| That's your kids' chances of ever paying off their mortgage, of ever paying off their car, throw inflation into that mix. | ||
| And then Bloomberg inflation was the second story. | ||
| And I'll post this today, but everybody needs to go back to John Taylor. | ||
| He gave, just look at causes of the financial crisis and the slow recovery. | ||
| It's a Hoover Institution paper from 2014. | ||
| I'll post it today, but Steve goes off. | ||
| This is the fundamental event. | ||
| that's produced this modern realignment in politics, right? | ||
| And Taylor shows in 03-05, we printed too much money, we fundamentally changed monetary policy under Greenspan, | ||
| and then Bernanke comes in in 06 and keeps it, and it's the boom-bust cycle over and over. | ||
| The Greenspan push. | ||
| Yes, the Greenspan put, they pump too much money in, and then to save the day, they got to throw in fiscal | ||
| policy. | ||
| Does that sound familiar? | ||
| It's exactly what we're doing right now, right? | ||
| Two trillion dollars in fiscal deficit spending to prop up the regime for elections and politics and for good reason. | ||
| The markets still know there's probably a real estate Commercial real estate. | ||
| They're just pushing the bonds around and the payment structure out a year or two, but it's coming. | ||
| And everybody knows it's coming and you cannot cheat the productivity numbers and the money numbers up there. | ||
| And I'll post all of it, but Steve gave a great talk yesterday to the black entrepreneurs downtown, 100 leaders from around the | ||
| country and focused on that 07-08 financial crisis and access to capital that's not | ||
| available to the middle class, to the black entrepreneur community, the Hispanic | ||
| entrepreneur community. | ||
| Or the white entrepreneur community. | ||
| Or the white entrepreneur community. | ||
| But particularly, the one thing I heard that resonated, we're going to break that speech | ||
| down, we're trying to figure out how to do it and or when to do it. | ||
| But when the feedback I got, I talked about where the money's going, I said, hey, there's | ||
| plenty of cash, there's plenty of money. | ||
| It's just that it's not going to the right places and people treat these things like | ||
| they're immutable laws. | ||
| Of nature. | ||
| It's like the second law of thermodynamics. | ||
| I said, it's not. | ||
| This is all a human construct. | ||
| It can be changed by human agency. | ||
| And it has to be changed. | ||
| Let's just give a simple example. | ||
| We fought two forever wars in the 21st century already, which many of the people in the audience yesterday and watching the show were supportive of and worked for candidates that were supportive of. | ||
| That was $7 trillion in Iraq and $2 trillion in Afghanistan, $9 trillion. | ||
| I said, let's do a thought experiment. | ||
| What would the country be like if we had allocated that $9 trillion back into manufacturing capacity into the United States? | ||
| High value added manufacturing. | ||
| This would be a renaissance. | ||
| This would be paradise. | ||
| It takes that kind of mindset to do two things. | ||
| One, we are an America first movement. | ||
| But we also now have to start thinking about, in an unselfish way, because this is the most unselfish nation on earth, American citizens first. | ||
| Everything that we do has to put the country, the needs of the country, the well-being of the country, the future of the country, first, and at the same time, her citizens. | ||
| If we change that mindset, if we shift that Overton window, Everything changes. | ||
| All of a sudden, you start looking at the overseas obligations. | ||
| You start looking at the massive defense spending. | ||
| You start looking at our allies and say, hey, look, guys, how about this? | ||
| We're looking for allies. | ||
| We're not looking for protectors. | ||
| We're not an empire, right? | ||
| Our founders warned us about being an empire. | ||
| They broke off from an empire. | ||
| That was at the beginning stage of acceleration. | ||
| They walked away from a good deal, understanding that, hey, they were here in the New Jerusalem. | ||
| The mindset has to be changed quite simply. | ||
| Not simply America first. | ||
| A subset corollary that is America's citizens first. | ||
| Every policy starts doing that, it's a game changer. | ||
| And next thing you know, you unlock the animal spirits of the entrepreneurial nature of the American people, sir. | ||
| And the black and Hispanic leaders yesterday said, we don't want a handout, we want access to capital. | ||
| And so we've done back of the envelope calculations here, the two trillion in deficit spending. | ||
| Right now, you got 2% economic growth. | ||
| Without that $2 trillion, you'd be shrinking by 2 or 3%. | ||
| 2 or 3%, yes. | ||
| And so, now do the same. | ||
| Instead of with $2 trillion, do what you just said with $12 trillion. | ||
| And imagine if you could fill in all the holes in the inner city with black and Hispanic capital investment with 12 trillion dollars, and you'd have a new world and a new country and hope for everybody again. | ||
| And we can do that. | ||
| As Besant, Scott Besant, said yesterday, all of these were policy choices. | ||
| And they're not immutable laws. | ||
| They're not immutable. | ||
| We can do policy. | ||
| President Trump has lined it all up. | ||
| I think the mindset that we're getting to, back up your numbers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I did some math myself in looking at that on this, on the unemployment, unemployment, all that. | ||
| Right now, about 25% of all job creation is government jobs. | ||
| Is government jobs. | ||
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| This massive federal spending, this is an addiction. | ||
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| This is harder to break than fentanyl. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because the political class of both parties, they're sitting here right now, working on, we've got to clear the decks for Trump. | ||
| That's not to say, we've got to do the hard work now and make sure when President Trump comes in, he doesn't have this boiling crisis. | ||
| What they want to do is, K Street wants to lock in, on an omnibus right now, under the rubrics, we're here to help President Trump, is they want to lock in another set of massive federal spending and massive deficits and the Federal Reserve will figure out how to print it. | ||
| And none of that is productivity. | ||
| Those are all transfer payments. | ||
| Let's borrow two trillion here, stick it into G, government over here in the macro model. | ||
| It counts as economic growth. | ||
| Of course it's not. | ||
| You get no future growth. | ||
| And the irony, right, that RFK Jr. | ||
| has given a whopper talk on health care costs, what's coming our way. | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| I highly recommend that to people. | ||
| You mean what's going to blow through Medicare and all these things? | ||
| Health care costs are going to blow up. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| And the irony of healthcare, and I come from kind of a healthcare family, is that the better it gets, the worse it is fiscally. | ||
| Because we live longer. | ||
| And no one wants to eat their spinach and do the hard math on some of the programs, right? | ||
| And so Americans, we're going to have a come-to-Jesus talk. | ||
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as a country coming up in a few years. I know you got to bounce. Where do people | |
| go to get you? All political views are your own. But hey, folks, on his economics, he's a target. | ||
| No, get the professor. No, no, no. I like the fact that right now, | ||
| I love the audience. Lawrence got number two. They're going to hold you accountable. | ||
| They do. | ||
| They do. | ||
| If I misspeak once in a while, the professor screws up. | ||
| It's all right. | ||
| You can throw some heat at me. | ||
| Brad Economics on Getter. | ||
| God bless everyone. | ||
| Read that ROHR book. | ||
| R-O-H-R. | ||
| Return of the Strong Gods. | ||
| That does not imply I believe in two gods or more. | ||
| I think it was by encounter. | ||
| I think it was Roger Kimmel. | ||
| I'm going to have to check that out. | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| Very strong. | ||
| Okay, Dave Brad, thank you so much. | ||
| Thanks, Dave. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| We've got a lot more. | ||
| I think we're going to try to track down Jason Jones. | ||
| Had some other people from the conference going to sprinkle in here over the next couple of days. | ||
| Today, we got all types of streaming. | ||
| We're going to go to Grace and Mo right now over at the site. | ||
| We got stuff up all day. | ||
| We've got the summit going on. | ||
| We got congressional hearings going on. | ||
| We're going to be picking up Real America's voice coverage of this flex in South Bronx. | ||
| Do it all. | ||
| Sacred Human Health. | ||
| This is my baby. | ||
| The beef livers. | ||
| Energy, energy, energy. | ||
| Don't trust me. | ||
| Trust the audience. | ||
| Go check it out today. | ||
| Sacredhumanhealth.com. | ||
| See what your buddies in the war room and the deplorables are saying. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Jason Jones joins us next. | ||
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All right, Jason. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Honored to have in the house, we can't get him often because he's traveling around the world, Jason Jones. | ||
| The Great Campaign Against the Great Reset. | ||
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But tell us, before we talk about the book, where have you been on your latest travels? | |
| You go to every war zone in the world, normally defending Christians in the Middle East. | ||
| Yeah, Middle East, Africa, Ukraine, and it's going to be a very busy summer as well, and I'm shooting my next movie in Spain at the end of June. | ||
| What is the film? | ||
| Ernest Hemingway's Hills Like White Elephants. | ||
| Oh, so you've been making narrative films, not documentaries. | ||
| Yeah, I do narrative, shorts, documentaries. | ||
| Tell me about that. | ||
| That was the famous book, Snows of Kilimanjaro? | ||
| Yeah, it was like White Elephant's The True Story of Ernest Hemingway. | ||
| We believe coursing his first wife to have an abortion. | ||
| He published the story several years later. | ||
| Oh, it was a short story? | ||
| It was a short story. | ||
| We sort of took two stories. | ||
| A Warm, Well-Lit Place, the story about the old man who committed suicide, kind of meshed it with Hemingway's life. | ||
| Which he committed suicide at the end. | ||
| He does. | ||
| But at the heart of it, we're in Spain at this little coffee shop at a train station, and this tragic story unfolds in the early 1920s. | ||
| Who plays Hemingway? | ||
| Can you announce it? | ||
| I won't announce it yet. | ||
| You're going to be shooting when? | ||
| I'll be in the Middle East and then I'll be going straight to Spain for the first, last week of June, first week of July, be back here, then I'll be going to Africa and to Central Asia. | ||
| How did you find time to write this book? | ||
| And by the way, it's from one of my favorite publishers, Crisis Publications, a good Catholic publication. | ||
| You've got a who's who, Metaxas, Eduardo, Seb, Dr. Malone, the Epoch Times senior editor, Alex Jones. | ||
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I've never seen... You know, they were supposed to have Steve Bannon write the foreword. | |
| I don't know what happened. | ||
| My agent said there was not enough money. | ||
| There was no money. | ||
| What is the Great Campaign against the Great Recession? | ||
| Well, for 20 years. | ||
| I founded this organization, my organization, The Vulnerable People Project, in 2002. | ||
| In 2000, I worked for Pat Buchanan. | ||
| I was part of the team that took over the Reform Party. | ||
| I was a big anti-regime change war, anti-nation building war guy. | ||
| In 2002... This is when Buchanan left the Republican Party. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And in 2002... In fact, Trump looked at running for president of the Reform Party. | ||
| Yeah, taking over the Reform Party was a fun thing to do as a young man. | ||
| And it was chaotic. | ||
| But leading up to the invasion of Iraq, I saw that there would be a genocide facing the Christians, the Yazidis, and the Kurds. | ||
| In the Middle East? | ||
| I saw this in 2002, founding my organization. | ||
| Because Christians were 20% of the population in 1900. | ||
| Yeah, think about this. | ||
| And like they're 1% of the population today. | ||
| Yeah, in Bethlehem they were 76% in 1949. | ||
| Now they're, you know, there's several hundred families left. | ||
| And so I saw this happening. | ||
| So I've been living in and around war zones, genocides and democides for over the past two decades. | ||
| And I've read some good books on the Great Reset. | ||
| But I wanted to look at it through the lens of the Christian vision of the human person. | ||
| And I wanted to impress upon people how vicious they are. | ||
| Think about General Milley. | ||
| Two months into the invasion, General Milley was asked in a press conference, do you think Ukraine can win? | ||
| And he said, We don't need them to win. | ||
| We need a quagmire. | ||
| So I've been to Ukraine. | ||
| I've been to the battlefields. | ||
| I've walked through the hospitals filled with young Ukrainian men, missing arms, missing legs, missing eyes. | ||
| And I've had to do with the food insecurity and the starvation. | ||
| The greatest famine since World War II was caused by the COVID lockdown and the COVID policies. | ||
| I work at the border, you know, on the Mexican side of the border. | ||
| They're all MAGA now. | ||
| All the Mexican human rights workers are MAGA. | ||
| What do I mean by this? | ||
| They're demoralized. | ||
| Why? | ||
| A young Catholic woman, Mexican woman, who runs shelters said, we used to care for women and children. | ||
| Now we're dealing with dangerous criminals. | ||
| in our shelters. It's different. But that's not getting the Catholic NGOs are still the worst. | ||
| On the US side of the border, they're the worst. And I have a chapter. You're saying on the Mexican | ||
| side of the board, they're demoralized and because they're dealing with criminals instead of | ||
| families. In my book, I have the key ideological enthusiasm to the advocates of the great reset | ||
| use. And it's called it's victimism. | ||
| It was a term coined in the 90s by Rene Girard, the great French anthropologist. | ||
| Victimism is feigning concern for the vulnerable, for wealth and power. | ||
| So they say, we're bigots, we're racists because we want to secure the border. | ||
| Catholic Vote has a powerful new campaign. | ||
| Defend the vulnerable. | ||
| Secure the border. | ||
| That is right. | ||
| Secure the border. | ||
| Every 11 seconds an American child, young person, is dying of fentanyl. | ||
| Secure the border. | ||
| We have an economy that rests on the exploitation of millions of people. | ||
| We have human sex trafficking. | ||
| This is what protects the vulnerable. | ||
| Protects us from Islamist extremists. | ||
| Protects us from the military-age men from China flooding across the border. | ||
| To protect the vulnerable. | ||
| Think of the electric vehicles. | ||
| I have the climate cult. | ||
| Another ideological... A pagan theology. | ||
| Yeah, the climate cult. | ||
| You're EV, I call them blood vehicles, not electric vehicles, because they begin with Catholic boys as young as six. | ||
| Harvesting by hand cobalt in mines owned by the CCP so your electric vehicle was birthed in a cobalt mine in China 80% in Congo 80% of cobalt in the world comes from Congo and the labors between 16 and 18 It's toxic. | ||
| It's dangerous, but they sell the electric vehicle as if this is concern for the vulnerable King Charles said in his Christmas address Don't let war and famine distract you from having compassion for the environment So don't let a generation of Ukrainian boys gone distract you from compassion for the climate. | ||
| Don't let famine in Africa distract you. | ||
| Don't let 3 million Uyghurs sitting in concentration camps in occupied East Turkestan distract you from the climate. | ||
| Don't let the disappearing 12 Catholic bishops have been disappeared in the CCP. | ||
| Jimmy Lai sitting in a prison. | ||
| Cardinal Zenz under house arrest. | ||
| Don't let that distract you from compassion for the climate. | ||
| That's victimism. | ||
| That's the mechanism of control they use. | ||
| And now, right now, this week, The WHO is seeking for the largest power grab in the history of the world with this pandemic treaty that will give | ||
| An Ethiopian thug, the ability to lock down any political community in the world for any reason. | ||
| As you go around, by the way, that's a great, right there, the summary is a great reason to get the campaign against the Great Reset. | ||
| What was the campaign against the Great Reset? | ||
| We thought we saw it here, but it had so many different elements. | ||
| How do you explain the book? | ||
| Well, so Dave, we were talking off the break when I walked in, that it's a war against Logos. | ||
| It's really a war against the Christian understanding of the human person, that we are made in the image and likeness of God. | ||
| Not Logos, Logos. | ||
| Logos. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, in part two of the book, I lay out the humane principles that emanate from the understanding of the human person, first made known through Jewish scripture, but made more perfectly known through the incarnation of the second person of the Trinity as man, Theologians, philosophers, priests, bishops, and laymen for centuries trying to understand what that means. | ||
| Everything we want to conserve is grounded in the Christian vision of the human person that we all have an inviolable dignity. | ||
| There is no war against the Great Reset without advocating for the truth about the incomparable inviolable dignity of the human person. | ||
| I have the four other core principles of the West. | ||
| What are they? | ||
| Subsidiarity, and I want to mention that quickly, what the WHO is seeking to do is obliterate the free institutions of civil society, nations, states, counties, and every level. | ||
| Family, they want to disrupt the family. | ||
| We have the humane economy. | ||
| A just social order is grounded in private property rights. | ||
| Solidarity is the opposite of victimism. | ||
| They look alike. | ||
| But solidarity, you can know the difference. | ||
| If you're getting wealthy and powerful by standing with the vulnerable, you're a victimist. | ||
| If you're wearing a shirt made by Uyghur slaves, taking a knee opposing slavery two centuries ago in the United States, you're a victimist. | ||
| If you're being debanked in the United States because you're advocating for the Uyghur, well then what are you? | ||
| That's solidarity. | ||
| Gerard said when you stand in solidarity with the vulnerable, you suffer with the vulnerable. | ||
| You can think of saints like St. | ||
| Damien who died of leprosy serving lepers. | ||
| You can think of St. | ||
| Maximilian Kolbe who died in Auschwitz hiding Jews. | ||
| That's what true solidarity is. | ||
| And then there's the natural law. | ||
| A just law is a man-made law that conforms to the divine will or conforms to truth. | ||
| And so what we see, what is the Great Reset? | ||
| The Great Reset, as your previous guest said when we were talking offline, is a war against truth. | ||
| It's a war against the Christian understanding of the human person. | ||
| Talk to me about the guys that the World Economic Forum, you travel all over the world, you see all the NGOs, the Railhead and the Thought Center in Davos, World Economic Forum. | ||
| Tell us, what was their methodology? | ||
| What was their thinking about how they would make a move during the pandemic to actually have the Great Reset which would lead to Build Back Better? | ||
| Well, think about this. | ||
| I don't know if you remember this. | ||
| I was the first person in the United States arrested leading an anti-COVID protest. | ||
| I was in the cover of Drudge. | ||
| That was in Hawaii, right? | ||
| In handcuffs. | ||
| Yeah, as you have been on cover of Drudge. | ||
| I was in the cover of Drudge in handcuffs. | ||
| I actually held that protest in response to the Italy lockdown. | ||
| I said, if the world follows the CCP the way Italy has done, we're going to starve the world. | ||
| And that's exactly what we did. | ||
| When you slow down food production, food processing, and food distribution, the people that are on the verge of hunger fall into hunger. | ||
| I've fallen to starvation. | ||
| And those who are in starvation, they die. | ||
| And so because of the nature of my work, for example, I've been working in Afghanistan since the U.S. | ||
| withdrawal. | ||
| Half of the population is suffering severe hunger. | ||
| Imagine having another lockdown. | ||
| The Taliban's not taking care of business there? | ||
| Yeah, no, they're not taking care of business there. | ||
| But, you know, we've distributed 6 million meals, and they will provide security for us when they see us arrive with food, which is striking. | ||
| We've delivered 100 million hours of heat through our coal distributions to the widows | ||
| and orphans of our Afghan allies who were killed in action. | ||
| And I've been criticized by the climate cult for that because I'm contributing to global | ||
| warming. | ||
| I'm giving coal to families that will die. | ||
| So really, again, they use the language of concern for the vulnerable to lock the world down. | ||
| But it is really a war against the vulnerable. | ||
| And those on the right, we need to understand their tactics. | ||
| Because we can, especially the young conservatives, and I have an introduction to young Americans in this book called The Adventure of Eros. | ||
| Love, piety, and posterity. | ||
| And it's the way out of the Great Reset for young people. | ||
| Because one thing we don't want to do, Steve, is the left sees young people instrumentally. | ||
| How can we use the young to achieve our objectives? | ||
| What we see as conservatives is how can we use ourselves instrumentally to serve the young? | ||
| I used to always, I remember being a 17 year old infantryman and I was in basic training and I doubled my age. | ||
| I'm 34. | ||
| I'm still young. | ||
| I'm 40. | ||
| I double my age. | ||
| I'm 40. | ||
| I can still work. | ||
| Now I'm like double my age and I have a gravesite that's not even being well kept. | ||
| But I think I have maybe 20, 30 years left where I can plant olive trees for my posterity. | ||
| And so this is what we want to do. | ||
| You know, Frodo says to Samwise in Lord of the Rings, we'll save the Shire but not for us. | ||
| And that's what we're really called here to do. | ||
| We are going to break the Great Reset. | ||
| But I wanted to say this, the young especially are going to be repulsed by language of concern for the vulnerable, which is a Christian society is ordered around serving the vulnerable, the child in the womb, the poor, and our posterity. | ||
| So we don't want victimism, the taking the language of concern for the vulnerable, They're not vulnerable communities. | ||
| They make up communities to stand with, to amass power. | ||
| But a Christian society is a humane society that's ordered around vulnerable, and I'm grateful to come on your show and be able to talk about that. | ||
| You're about to head out to war zones that we can't talk about right now, but you'll be there and talk to us when you're there. | ||
| The campaign against the Great Reset. | ||
| Crisis Publications, one of the best publishers out there. | ||
| I'm honored to be published by them. | ||
| No, they're hardcore. | ||
| I mean, they're serious people. | ||
| Website, social media, we'll be able to announce in a couple weeks where you're heading. | ||
| Y'all have great pictures. | ||
| Hopefully we'll get you live there. | ||
| Very dangerous place you're going. | ||
| Where do people get you? | ||
| Our website is VulnerablePeopleProject.com. | ||
| The Jason Jones Show is my podcast. | ||
| On Instagram we're Vulnerable People Project and you can see Our work in Africa. | ||
| We have the Vulnerable Parish Program. | ||
| Steve, I don't know if you know about that. | ||
| We have cameras and armed guards outside of churches. | ||
| Because the hostile, the Muslim jihadists put the Christians... I mean, the slaughter of Christians throughout the world. | ||
| And you've done amazing work on the Christians in the Middle East for a decade. | ||
| Over the decade I've known you, it's shocking what's happened. | ||
| Well, these are the descendants of the Middle East. | ||
| These are the children of the families of the apostles. | ||
| It's a church. | ||
| The church is a desert church. | ||
| We came out of the desert, right? | ||
| We came out of the Middle East. | ||
| Jason, always amazing. | ||
| Be safe. | ||
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Be safe. | |
| No, no. | ||
| Where you're going is one of the most unsafe places on earth. | ||
| So be safe and we'll make sure that we- It's Chicago. | ||
| You just gave it away. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's Midtown Manhattan. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
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| Nikki Haley was therefore aiming herself to be president ultimately. | ||
| I think Nikki Haley is incredibly politically ambitious. | ||
| I would say ambitious as Lucifer, but that's probably a... I'm probably taking Milton out of context on that. | ||
| But she's very ambitious and very talented. | ||
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Do you think she could challenge Trump in the primaries? | |
| I take Nikki Haley at her word that it's not 2020. | ||
| I think she's going to go out and make some money. | ||
| I just think the timing, everything that she said yesterday and everything about her stepping down could have been done on the evening of November 6th. | ||
| She's going to stay to the end of the year. | ||
| There's plenty of time to do a transition, plenty of time to pick someone to take her place. | ||
| The timing could not have been worse because it stepped on the Kavanaugh first day at the Supreme Court. | ||
| It stepped on the 50-year anniversary of the lowest, we have the lowest unemployment in 50 years. | ||
| The timing was exquisite from a bad point of view, so I think I'm very suspect of the timing. | ||
| Very suspect to him. | ||
| That was live then. | ||
| Ambitious as Lucifer. | ||
| He saw it yesterday. | ||
| We will track this closely, folks. | ||
| I think we took a poll. | ||
| The War Room Posse. | ||
| Not sure. | ||
| Nikki would break double digits. | ||
| Maybe, you know, 1%, 2%. | ||
| Kind of like a CPAC. | ||
| Catherine O'Neill was there with her. | ||
| She was part of Trump the first term. | ||
| I don't know if she can make second term. | ||
| She's running a great business. | ||
| Tell me about before the Memorial Day weekend, Catherine O'Neill, what kind of deals are you going to give the posse? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Thank you so much, Steve, for having me. | ||
| I will say Nikki Haley is as ambitious as Lucifer, as someone that had worked with her in the administration. | ||
| You were totally right on that. | ||
| Anyway, Steve, we're coming in hot with a BOGO deal today. | ||
| So it's by Two boxes of beef sticks and get one box of hamburger free. | ||
| These beef sticks are amazing, Steve. | ||
| I actually eat them for lunch a few days a week. | ||
| It's like a Slim Jim, but it's healthy. | ||
| No nitrates, are all natural beef. | ||
| So get them now. | ||
| We have a limited supply and you don't need any code. | ||
| You just go to our website, merriweatherfarms.com. | ||
| Put two beef sticks in your cart, put a box of hamburger, premium hamburger in your cart, and you'll get this fire deal. | ||
| We went nuts the last time we did this deal, Steve, so get it now. | ||
| One more time, where do they go? | ||
| Meriwether, you guys are on fire. | ||
| The feedback we've gotten from the audience is just absolutely incredible. | ||
| Where do they go for this? | ||
| Because it's Memorial Day weekend, baby. | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Go to MeriwetherFarms.com, buy two boxes of beef sticks, get one box of hamburger free. | ||
| You also have to check out our Father's Day box. | ||
| We just loaded that on today, but we'll have some time to push that. | ||
| In the coming weeks, so we're really focused on these beef sticks because we have a limited supply. | ||
| I love the beefsteaks. | ||
| Catherine, you're making a huge impact. | ||
| We had a conference yesterday on entrepreneurs. | ||
| MAGA is Entrepreneurial Finance, Entrepreneurial Capitalism. | ||
| So we couldn't be prouder of you. | ||
| And we got you out of the business of working with the Nikki Haley's of the world, right? | ||
| The ambitious folks in politics of limited capacity. | ||
| Catherine O'Neill, thank you very much for joining us, ma'am. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Have a great day. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| You got Catherine. | ||
| I mean these entrepreneurs are incredible. | ||
| Make sure you go to Meriwether Farms. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| What we do is make sure all the folks have these websites that you can immerse yourself in information and particularly see feedback of people that have used the product. | ||
| We think that's very important and we know that your kindred spirits here in the War Room And people are very discerning. | ||
| One of the things we love, and Dave Brat said it, you know, feedback. | ||
| We're watching the chats all the time. | ||
| You've got Grace and Mo over there, and Carly Bonet over at Midnight Writer. | ||
| You've got Elizabeth at Our Telegram. | ||
| You've got JoJo. | ||
| You've got an incredible team now. | ||
| Liz Harrington's part of the team. | ||
| Obviously Natalie Winters is our Executive editor and also host the show many, many days. | ||
| We've got a huge team. | ||
| Adding to the team all the time to get better and better content. | ||
| Full day today and also go check. | ||
| We're going to figure out how to get People understand more what we're putting up. | ||
| Like right now, we've got the Summit on one of our channels. | ||
| We've got hearings on another. | ||
| We're going to be streaming throughout the day, dipping in and out of the Real America Voice stream. | ||
| We have Charlie Kirk on Real America's Voice next, but Sobics right after that. | ||
| Then they come back. | ||
| We have Miranda Khan and the great Tara Dahl. | ||
| And Tara, I think, has already announced she's got her new show that's going to start, I think it's June 3rd. | ||
| I'll get the exact date. | ||
| We're back 5 to 7. | ||
| Of course, tonight we're going to have, hopefully, the weather's going to break. | ||
| And Real America's Voice, I think, picks up at 4 o'clock. | ||
| We'll be dipping in at the 5 o'clock show. | ||
| But at 6 o'clock, it looks like the president We'll be coming up at this amazing event in South Bronx. | ||
| Historic event in South Bronx. | ||
| Mike Lindell joins us. | ||
| Mike, people are raving about, they're complimenting and raving about the deals. | ||
| Very appreciative. | ||
| Giving special deals to Warren Posse. | ||
| What do you got for us today? | ||
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Well, we're almost through that. | |
| Remember, we had a box store, everybody, that canceled our new percale sheet order. | ||
| We passed them on to the War Room Posse in an exclusive. | ||
| The queen size at wholesale price of $26.98. | ||
| And the king size $29.98. | ||
| All the colors I just checked are still there. | ||
| This is very limited. | ||
| Get them today. | ||
| When they're gone, they're gone. | ||
| This will be it. | ||
| And this is a War Room exclusive. | ||
| You're never going to get any sheets anywhere for this price. | ||
| much less the best per keel sheets ever made. | ||
| Go to the website, use the promo code war room. | ||
| And also you're gonna look there. | ||
| I want you all to check out the bedding. | ||
| We put our beds and I talked to our, all made 100% in the USA with technology. | ||
| No other beds have and the mattress stoppers with free shipping. | ||
| And this is for Memorial weekend here. | ||
| Everyone's gonna have their beds on sale. | ||
| Ours will be on sale better than anyone to the War Room Posse. | ||
| And we have technology no one has that you're gonna get the best sleep ever. | ||
| And all these other sales that we have on there, call my operators. | ||
| They love your calls. | ||
| We are thriving. | ||
| Yesterday, by the way, Steve, yesterday was our busiest day of the year so far. | ||
| So they kept all the operators busy. | ||
| Everybody's reacting to this per kale sheet sale, these wholesale prices. | ||
| Those box stores that do this to MyPillow, their losses is you guys' gain. | ||
| And we're going to keep passing on the savings. | ||
| They want to try and cancel MyPillow, and my employees were fighting back, and we're winning. | ||
| MyPillow.com promo code WORM to get the special deals. | ||
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| 800-873-1062. | ||
| Tell the operators we got their back. | ||
| Mike Lindell. | ||
| Proud to have you on here, brother. | ||
| Keep fighting. | ||
| Particularly these special deals. | ||
| The guys try to cut him out. | ||
| They try to cancel the order. | ||
| Says, heck, I'll just sell it to the War Room folks. | ||
| They'll take it. | ||
| Don't need stores. | ||
| Go right to them. | ||
| Charlie Kirk is next. |
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