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May 4, 2024 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 3586: Big Money Behind Campus Unrest

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unidentified		Donald Trump wants to expand presidential power in a second term.
		He doesn't really speak about legislative initiatives.
		He talks about things that he wants to do with his own executive authority.
		I specifically asked Donald Trump about his plan to embark on a massive deportation operation throughout the United States to remove as many or more than 11 million undocumented migrants.
		Donald Trump He told me that he would rely on the National Guard to haul away these migrants and that he would be willing to use the military inland if necessary.
		He also said that he would try to induce local and state police departments to participate by tying federal funds to their involvement.
		So I think there are some issues that are Trumpian fixations that he has ideas about that he's going to use executive power to pursue in a second term.
		It's not going to be the greatest country in the world unless we elect great leaders.
		And we're not there yet, but I hope in the fall.
		I think that's when the voters, and it's the middle of the electorate that's going to decide the election, says, you know what?
		I'm going to vote for decency, even if he's old.
		Because you know what?
		Old is also wise.
		It's also wisdom.
		It's also experience.
		And that'll get us to 2028 when we'll get the new America.
		Frank's sense, not of joy, but of relief at least, that he's potentially facing some consequences because, as you've said before, this guy's a con artist and he's gotten away with it for years.
		No, he's more than that to me.
		He's sick.
		He's really, genuinely a sick person that somehow has been allowed into our System and I'm not calling him.
		I'm tired of calling him names.
		He just can't be anywhere near the office of the presidency You've played a lot of bad guys Would you ever play Donald Trump?
		Never.
		There's nothing about him, there's not one redeeming thing in him that I can see ever, ever.
		It's funny, I was just thinking that he actually became president.
		He could have done good things.
		Instead, he just He had to do it all wrong.
		He's so, as we all know, so narcissistic and self-centered.
		What do you say to those who say, I don't like the guy, but I'm going to vote for him?
		What's your message to them?
		I don't understand it.
		I don't think they understand how dangerous it will be if he ever, God forbid, becomes president.
		I don't think they really understand.
		And historically, from what I see, even in Nazi Germany, they had it with Hitler.
		They don't take him seriously.
		He looks like a clown, acts like a clown.
		Mussolini, same thing.
		These guys, I don't know why.
		They look like clowns.
		They somehow, people...
		That element of society identifies in some ways with them.
		But it would be chaos beyond our imagination.
		There's no mystery about him.
		He's right out front and what he says is what it'll be if he becomes president.
		Do you think our democracy is at risk in this election?
		I think that it is.
		I always keep saying democracy is great, of course, but democracy people take for granted.
		It's a word that some people don't even understand.
		They take it for granted.
		It's about right and wrong, period.
		The guy's a monster.
		He is beyond wrong.
		It's almost like he wants to do the most horrible things that he can think of in order to get a rise out of us.
		I don't know what it is, but he's been doing it and doing it, and it's...
		It's f***ing scary.
chris hayes ▲ ● ▼		Timothy, I agree with you that he doesn't have a clue of what his own agenda is.
		But it also seems to me that this is one of those places where he does have fixations, he has grudges, right?
		Like he wants more power for himself, he wants his Department of Justice to prosecute political enemies, very clear about that.
		And also where personnel becomes everything.
		I mean, it really just matters a tremendous amount who is advising on immigration, right?
		Like, he may not have well-formed views, but if you give Stephen Miller the immigration portfolio and he says, let's go, we're doing it, then you've got, I think, a mass deportation campaign.
unidentified		Yes, I mean, there are a few things where he has said he's going to do specific things.
		It's a, broadly speaking, a xenophobia agenda.
		He's going to do a roundup, mass roundup, of undocumented immigrants, and he's going to slap tariffs on every conceivable foreign import, although even there he You're gonna like it.
		I noticed that he had said 10%, but in the interview he said, well, maybe it's 10%, maybe it's more than that, maybe it's less than that.
		You're going to like it.
chris hayes ▲ ● ▼		Either way, it will all work out.
unidentified		That's right.
		He's the Something Terrific candidate.
		Remember when in 2016 when he said he was going to replace Obamacare with Something Terrific?
		This time out, he's pretty much saying that everything he does is going to be terrific, but he doesn't tell you what it's going to be.
		He doesn't propose any legislation.
		Uh, that he wants to put before Congress.
		He clearly would like to abuse power to the maximum, and it's frightening, but he's kind of an improvisational authoritarian.
		He's not going to go in there with a strict plan, and I think that we should call him on it.
		We should call him on the fact that he has no clear idea what he would do as President of the United States.
		You have no upside in having this conversation, in speaking out against Donald Trump.
		You are making yourself a target.
		The interview will air and he will immediately find a reason to talk bad about you in public.
		Yeah.
		But you're choosing to use your platform to do so.
		What do you say to other celebrities who don't want to alienate part of their fan base, don't want to step in harm's way, but they have similar megaphones that you do?
		You know, the idea to be bullied at my age by someone like this is not happening.
		I'm pretty sure you were never bullied.
		No.
		You know, as a kid sometimes I missed that.
		But the point is, not for the country.
		No.
		And I think other people are going to have to stand up and just, because it's either that or you're going to find yourself in a situation that's so terrifying.
		We always hear about people from Eastern Europe, the Jews from other parts of Eastern Europe.
		Western Europe coming over, look what happened with France, with the Nazis and so on, and they come over and you hear these, and when I was a kid they'd say, you don't really appreciate this country, you don't really appreciate what we know from experience.
		Imagine what those people went through.
		I'm just starting to see it.
		You know, as a kid I said, Hitler, it's a nightmare that never would happen.
		But now I see that it's possible.
		But those people, and sometimes I run into some people who are close to my age, who are from Eastern European countries, or even Nazi Germany.
		You know, you understand it.
		Did you ever care this much about politics?
		No, I don't.
		I mean, I'm sort of, not indifferent, but I'm so angry about what's going on, I don't see how it can be avoided.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Pray for our enemies.
unidentified		Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's Saturday, 4 April in the year of our Lord 2024.
		It's 184 days in a wake up until the election.
		It is six months tomorrow to election day, although I want to make sure everybody's got a heads up.
		I think it's North Carolina may be the first.
		I think the ballots drop sometime in early September.
		So we're four months away and early voting is going to be obviously Intense this year, uh, and uh, of course mail-in ballots is going to be how they're going to try to steal it again So a bunch of stuff going in nevada Etc about mail-in ballots lawsuits all over the place.
		We'll get more clarity that on monday To walk through all the different assortment right there wanted to play so you head over your hot big pot of warpath coffee Could hear the hate in vitro.
		See what you see.
		Look at exactly what's going on here in America and throughout the world.
		But in America, you're beginning the kinetic part of the Third World War.
		And you see it on college campuses.
		It's going to spill over from college campuses.
		You have this merger of Neo-Marxists and Sharia Supremacists.
		And of course, you've got Robert De Niro and Jeff Daniels.
		This is what If you curate MSNBC and CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, this is how they are nonstop.
		That Trump is not even a human, he's some demon, he's some devil, he's worse than Hitler.
		Just look at Robert De Niro, spouting that over and over.
		And to say with no self-awareness, oh, what happened in Nazi Germany 30s, look what's happening in the United States, of which Biden and his regime have exacerbated.
		Dave Brat, we're going to start with Dave Brat.
		Dave, I've got a lot of talk about the House and this parachuting agreement, but I want your observations because you are kind of, I guess we have to depend upon you for our philosopher-in-residence.
		Tennis pro slash philosopher in residence, representing the Judeo-Christian West, Robert De Niro, Jeff Daniels, the whole arts community.
		And folks, I know it irks a lot of you guys on a Saturday morning, I have to start with that.
		We do that to make sure that you understand how these people are talking nonstop.
		You see, they hate Trump.
		They can't even... His policies were so successful They can't even address those.
		It's just pure hatred on him.
		And of course, if he comes back, instead of the four years of peace and prosperity he gave us in his first term, it's just going to be demonic fascism.
		Dave Brad, your thoughts and observations.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, the term going around these days is gaslighting, right?
		So the left has been very good, right?
		When it goes back to COVID or any other crisis or Russiagate, they accuse you of what they're doing, right?
		And so that is evil.
		That's a lie.
		It's in the Ten Commandments.
		There's a spiritual war going on, as we covered the other day on American campuses, when you got Hamas declared It's been just slow drip, but they know exactly what they're doing.
		They went after philosophy and religion last because it's the most important.
		So when you combine Hamas and on campus we're flying the Palestinian flag, taking down, burning the American flag. That is a war against the Judeo-Christian West.
		And then now the latest Ranga books come out, they make it very explicit, right? Before the American people were, you know, where's the evidence? Where's the receipts, you guys? Well, now they have books against Christian whites. They're coming out and saying whites are evil, Christianity is evil, and they're De Niro saying right and wrong.
		I I'd love to hear you spell that out, you know, for more than a sentence.
		Please define right and wrong.
		So it is a spiritual war at the deepest level.
		The country does not quite want to see it yet.
		The Judeo-Christian West and our friends in Israel, I've told their ambassador going three years back, we used to have And I said, the reason I'm saying this is because we're weak.
		I said, you're still strong.
		I'm not hearing any God talk out of Israel. And if we have a special relationship, you tell us, you don't want to be an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean, right? And so, and I said, the reason I'm saying this is because we're weak. I said, you're still strong. This is prior to all the recent, you know, violence. And so this really is a war.
		And I said, it is.
		The best thing you can do is not, you know, not evangelical talk, but the God of Abraham.
		And we've got to get back to the basics, because that is the fundamental split.
		The other side that's calling Trump evil and all this craziness can't define evil.
		They don't believe in evil.
		Marxists don't believe in evil.
		They just use terms and rhetoric to destroy their opposition to grab power.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Coming out of Israel, this is one of the criticisms I had.
		For years you never heard about the Sharia supremacism.
		This is the beating heart of the problem down in Gaza.
		They never wanted to talk about it.
		They talked about the PLO and it made it seem like it was some sort of domestic issue politically.
		We've got 30 seconds here.
		Why was that?
		Why in Israel did they never make the argument about Sharia supremacism?
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I think it's all tied to the big money, right?
		The foundations, the et cetera, right?
		On university campuses, if you touch any of that dialogue, you get scorched immediately.
		And so Israel at the highest level, the UN or whatever, there's probably this corresponding kind of use of language.
		If you go after certain taboos, you get scorched no matter who you are.
		But they can't.
		They need to name names now, just like these These, you know, half the people in the schools, they need to be named by the New York Police Department.
		Thank God for them and their guts.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we're Taboo Center, so we'll continue this.
		Dave, you're gonna hang around.
		We got Colonel Harvey's gonna join us, Eric Prince.
		John Solomon's got Breaking News, Dave Walsh.
		For everybody, all the climate change cult, all you guys that worship at the altar of AI right now, got a big wake-up call coming from none other than Larry Fink, as interpreted by Dave Walsh.
		Philip Patrick, we are packed wall-to-wall today.
		Stick around.
		Saturday morning, you're... Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
		Okay, we've got a lot to get to, and I want to kind of break this down.
		First off, Dave Brett, you were in Congress.
		You were the Tea Party representative.
		You're kind of original MAGA, House Freedom Caucus, all of it.
		MTG is doing something brilliant, and I realize, you know, Ted Cruz and others in the Senate are saying now it's a waste of time.
		No offense, to be brutally frank, I haven't seen any real action by any of those guys in the Senate.
		I saw a lot of talk.
		Not one time you have all kind of leverage in the Senate.
		Not one time did anybody really step up.
		In Challenge Mitch McConnell, this audience in MAGA on the Ukraine situation had Mitch McConnell break his pick and I realize you guys voted against it and that's what did it, but you had all types of other operating leverage to really like internal filibuster, etc.
		Nothing happened.
		And so don't criticize MTG.
		What she's trying to do is a great unmasking.
		This doesn't mean this has nothing to do with the vote to throw him out or not throw him out.
		It's to unmask who's prepared to admit publicly that they're comfortable with and support a basically power sharing arrangement where the Democrats essentially control things.
		Nancy Pelosi didn't have any bigger margin than Johnson has, but she got on with it because they are unified in what they wanted to do.
		Right now, Johnson wants to, these are collaborationists.
		He's a collaborator.
		He's like Quisling in Norway in World War II.
		Have you ever heard, Brett, you've been around a long time, have you ever heard of a concept called a power-sharing agreement?
		Has a Speaker of the House in the history of this nation ever signed a power-sharing agreement with the minority to allow them to basically call the shots, sir?
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hate to be sarcastic, but we've been doing it for 30 years.
		It's an implicit contract called the Budget of the United States of America, where we've tacitly power-shared because our side is too scared to run on anything, right?
		As I've said over and over and over, if you want to win the election, you've got to run on three issues, and they're clear.
		They're the war room issues, right?
		The border invasion, the debt, and the endless wars.
		You run on that and you're going to give a surge of 5% to everybody running, all the Republicans.
		All political views are my own.
		But instead, the Republicans, different than the Democrats, let 220 members run individual races.
		If that's the case, then you're beholden to the money.
		And as a Republican, I can honestly say there is great fear, right?
		Because we don't have any money blocks left, right?
		We lost Obamacare.
		That's a fifth of the economy.
		The military establishment just shells it out both ways and probably leans them.
		The intelligence agencies, the big corporations, the Fortune 500 are all woke.
		Not that the CEOs are woke.
		They're not.
		They're just weak and they're scared of losing market share.
		So the money is always the driving issue.
		The speaker, as far back as I know, Has always been in a tacit agreement with the Democrats.
		We couldn't cut any money ever.
		We never got any Republican initiatives through.
		We've always been beholden to the deep state and the administrative state.
		Now it's even worse though.
		Now you have an explicit reaching across the board, Democrats passing the agenda, the speakers, the last two speakers going up to Pelosi in the White House and giving away $7 trillion with no conservative wins.
		The promises have been on the border, no more border invasion, we're going to do that before Ukraine, before the budget, we're going to run normal budget operations, none of that has come to fruition.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		By the way, you're not going to like the number because we had to give it away, but we're going to have all these policy wins, including sealing the board at nothing.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Zero.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is why this vote's so important.
		If you're a congressman, and this is why you get on Bill Blaster, you can make direct contact with their offices.
		Just download it.
		Go to Grace Chung and just download it.
		But you can make direct contact.
		Let them know, hey, if you don't, if there's no motion to vacate, then you're basically, your representative is agreeing that the power sharing, explicit power sharing agreement with Hakeem Jeffries, and he's gonna run the deal like they've run the deal so far.
		Kenneth Rogoff came out with this article, I had EJ on yesterday, we talked about it, I'm gonna wait, you're gonna stick around with me, but it's called The End of the magical thinking about debt.
		Rogoff is not MAGA.
		He's a Harvard professor, but he's kind of the seminal figure in this because he wrote this book, This Time It'll Be Completely Different, which goes back and mocks every government.
		Dictatorships, socialism, republics, conservative governments that all said the same thing.
		Every time debt got greater than GDP, they all had a great reason, a great excuse, how it was going to be different.
		It's never different.
		It always ends that country.
		That's why this is Republican.
		Dave Brat, stick around because you brought up a very important point about the three things.
		The invasion of the country, the Republican massive debt that the political class continues to spend money on, and the stopping of the endless wars.
		My next two guests are going to join us.
		Colonel Derek Harvey and Eric Prince have dedicated their lives their lives to the defense of this country, defense of this republic.
		And they are two of the most articulate and smartest of the leaders of the America First program.
		That having dedicated their lives to this, fought in these wars, fought through and been, you know, some of the, you know, some of the architects of what happened in the past, they've come to the conclusion, as they did at the time, that this cannot continue.
		And the war is actually here in the United States of America today.
		Colonel Harvey, Fox I think had it, National Review had a piece, I think it was the Vice Chief of the Police of New York that they were talking about after they arrested I think 100 of the protesters up at Columbia, after interviewing I think 50 of them, came out and said, There is something that's organizing this.
		This is just not some self-organizing bunch of kids came together because they don't like what's happening to children in Gaza.
		Walk me through that.
		What is behind, what is behind, it's self-evident now That this was coordinated, organized, well financed, well thought through, this merger of neo-Marxism and radical Jihad, Sharia supremacism.
		What are your thoughts?
		You spent your career looking at this.
		The endless wars now come home to America.
		What are your thoughts?
derek harvey ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think they're right.
		And the FBI and our intelligence community has been asleep at the switch.
		They've ignored What is happening in our country?
		There's clearly a connection between what, you know, what the Hamas leadership is doing and refusing to engage in serious talks.
		They refuse to get a ceasefire agreement, even though Israel and others have bent over backwards to accommodate them in so many ways.
		They want to draw this out and extend it.
		And then if you look back to 7 October, this has always been about Changing the dynamic and putting pressure on Israel and the Western culture through mobilizing people over the last seven or eight months.
		They had a long-term plan on this, okay?
		End of October, early November, they were planning taking over these campuses in the spring.
		And they've been planning for violence and taking over in Chicago.
		during the Chicago Convention that the Democrats are planning.
		There is money behind it, there's organization, there's coordination, there's a conspiracy going on, and it's got international tentacles as well as the domestic Antifa, BLM, Soros money, and this is being laundered.
		There's a lack of curiosity, a willful lack of curiosity, an actual shutting down of potential lines of investigation.
		You've got conspiracy to riot.
		You've got conspiracy to deny civil rights.
		You've got the planning and the operations.
		All the tents are the same.
		The guidance is the same at every campus.
		The books, the PDF files, all of this stuff is the same, okay?
		And it's been planned and organized.
		And they specifically targeted certain universities because they finance Palestinian-Islamic groups at these universities.
		The universities have played along with it.
		Where I taught at the University of South Florida, There are almost 16 different Islamic and Arab groups, Palestinian groups, in government receiving funding, part of the on-campus governance, and they're getting funding and stipends and pay from a mix of dark money, paying salaries to the leaders of these groups.
		It's organized, but it's just like what the FBI said about Antifa.
		We knew Antifa was organized.
		We saw the coordination on the House Intelligence Committee.
		We saw the money.
		We saw the coordination on social media.
		But the FBI director says there's no organization there.
		There's no conspiracy.
		There's no coordination because they don't want to see it.
		You have to ask the question, why don't they want to see it, Steve?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The three biggest, before I go to Eric, the three biggest donors, they've done this analysis, biggest donors to colleges, foreign money, are CCP, Qatar, and other Gulf Emirates, and Soros.
		Right there, you've got our biggest enemy, the CCP, who is in back of the mullahs in Persia.
		They're doing these huge purchases of oil.
		They're getting off the dollar and doing it.
		They're the mortal enemy of the United States.
		You've got Qatar, which, as you know, is the finance center, right, of the Muslim Brotherhood, and also getting money to the mullahs in Persia, right, the Shiites.
		And then you've got Soros, who's in American Haiti.
		Yes, sir, go ahead.
derek harvey ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you've got Rockefeller, you've got the Ford Foundation, all of them.
		Pushing money into these groups and it's very hard to track it because there's not a direct link It's not you can't see it.
		You have to really investigate it And that's what the FBI and the intelligence community should be doing, you know, at DHS and stuff.
		But look at what China's doing with TikTok to aggravate the situation.
		Look at what they're doing.
		You know, 50 plus to 1, the stories are slanted in favor of Hamas and the Palestinian Gaza situation, anti-Western culture and anti-Israel.
		U.S.
		complaining about our civil rights and our oppression and our support for an apartheid regime.
		That's what they're being fed.
		And then we've got 400,000 Chinese on our campuses.
		And tens, I mean, hundreds and hundreds of thousands, I forgot the number, of Middle Easterners that are on our campuses, too, paying full freight.
		And these countries are setting up centers and funding programs and funding tanks And it's due to their intent to have influence and shape outcomes.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's not being given for no reason at all.
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unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank God for the engine room at the War Room.
		They remind me that Dave Brad has got it exactly right.
		This is a spiritual war.
		One of the reasons I think Israel's in this jam and kind of was asleep at the switch, if I can be so brutally direct, is for many years, and I follow this very closely, for many years you saw just a lack of focus about Islamic supremacism.
		That chant they do on the campuses, from the river to the sea, with Palestine will be free, actually in Arabic it's Palestine will be Muslim or Arabic or Arab.
		This is the Judeo-Christian West.
		Versus the atheistic Marxist combined with Sharia supremacism.
		Not all Muslims, but Sharia supremacist.
		And not all liberals, or even progressives, as off-track as they are, but neo-Marxist and Marxist.
		And the target is not Israel or the Jews.
		That's in the foreground, and that's who they're definitely coming after.
		What they're coming after, and you see this in Germany and France and England, everywhere, Is they're coming after the Judeo-Christian West and the United States of America.
		And if you don't wake up to that, you and we as a nation will be rolled over.
		In the kinetic part of the Third World War, which has already started in the Eurasian landmass in the Red Sea and hopefully not, you know, it's the preliminaries are taking place in the South China Sea and Taiwan.
		The kinetic parts here in the United States today.
		This is irregular warfare that's already started.
		Eric Prince, you're an expert in this.
		Help me out here.
		How dangerous is this situation and who is in back of this open revolt?
		Because I got the FBI telling me that Ray's saying, well, you know, you got to think about these right-wing extremists, this MAGA, anybody uses the term, the 2020 election was stolen as an extremist.
		Your thoughts, sir?
unidentified		Look, this is the same infrastructure, really, that was used to crank out and organize all the BLM riots of 2020.
		They rolled out a similar playbook here.
		It's going to be a very crazy left-wing summer.
		The fact that the Democrats decided to put their convention in Chicago, already crime-ridden, will prove to be an even bigger disaster.
		But you're right, it is a organized Muslim Brotherhood, Ikhwan, supremacy problem.
		Where they're organizing the overthrow of Western institutions, whether it's the church in your corner, the rights of women, the rights that we take for granted in a traditional, liberal, free society, is what they're here to overthrow.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, hold it.
		Hang on.
		Stop right there.
		If that's the case, and you can back that up with empirical evidence...
		Wouldn't it be in the mandate or in the brief of the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, the House and Senate intelligence committees to make this their number one priority right now, particularly when we know in back of this you have massive funding by the Chinese Communist Party, by Qatar, which is the finance center of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Mullahs in Persia.
		And people like George Soros.
		Wouldn't this be a number one priority?
		And wouldn't the House of Representatives that's controlled by Polly Pockets, Johnson, etc.
		be having hearings every day and putting a face on this?
		And grilling guys like Wray?
		Or bringing all these leaders here under subpoena to do it?
		Wouldn't that be a logical outgrowth of your predicate, sir?
unidentified		That should be what they're doing, but clearly they are not.
		The Republicans have been asleep at the switch.
		We continue to fund our own destruction, even with the NGOs.
		You talk about all the different NGOs on campuses.
		A lot of them have a federal component of money to them, on top of even the immigration that we're flooded with.
		But whether it's CARE and the other ICWAN-related organizations, they're talking about staying low, Be off the radar as much as you can, but to, but to exert that influence, they've have huge influence.
		Uh, not just in the United States, but even in, uh, in London, the amount of Qatari money that is bought and paid for politicians, real estate institutions.
		They're almost there.
		They're teetering towards state capture in the UK.
		So it's, um, it's not just a problem in America, but, uh, again, this ultimately comes down to how money is spent.
		And if it's the one thing Republicans can influence or control, Dave Brat is right.
		It's been largely a unit party where they always spend more money.
		The idea of cutting budgets in Washington is anathema.
		but our institutions are failing us.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on, for you and Derek Harvey, who have been part of this America First national security, McMasters, who I'm no fan of, said yesterday that the defense budget, and said it because I'm for cuts in the defense budget and using economic warfare and being smart about things, McMasters is saying right now the budget has to go from I think 3.2 or 3.5 to 4% of GDP immediately, overnight.
unidentified		No way.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Which, by the way, will add another, it'll make us a two trillion, be a lock solid two trillion dollar deficit this year.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Your thoughts on that?
unidentified		De-cartelize the defense industry.
		You can find significant cost savings just in buying the stuff more.
		Your Pentagon budget is always about half manpower, half in stuff.
		You could buy your stuff significantly smarter and you can also de-layer an enormous amount of the fat that's in the Pentagon and put more teeth in the field and a lot less tail because we've gotten, well, we have an obesity epidemic across the United States.
		We have an obesity epidemic in the military as well, including in how many bloated leadership layers we have.
		14 million men under arms during World War II.
		We have the same amount of flag officers today, but we have only 1.4 million people under arms.
		So you have a massive opportunity to cut big costs, and it will also cause a much smarter procurement process if you just start de-layering the fat that's in the Pentagon leadership.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Derek Harvey, you were basically essentially ran on the staff side, House Intel, under Devin Nunes, and did an amazing job for President Trump over National Security Council.
		Immediately, if you were to talk to Jordan, Comer, Oversight, House Intel, Johnson directly this afternoon, what are the two or three things they must do immediately next week To have the House start to force the administration to basically address what is unrestricted warfare.
		Unrestricted warfare, not the economic part or the psychological part, but the pre-kinetic, and I actually say the proto-kinetic part, has started now in the United States of America.
		Because this is how Mao and the Cultural Revolution started in China.
		At the universities, with the students.
		This is almost textbook CCP.
		Derek Harvey.
derek harvey ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wouldn't want any more big studies and, you know, talking points.
		What I would want is to focus some public hearings, have the bully pulpit, have a common set of talking points that all of our candidates and Republican leaders at the congressional side would speak from to address the real threat.
		I would have my committee chairman staff up.
		I'd authorize more investigators, more lawyers.
		I'd start getting the subpoenas out, and I would drill down.
		I would be holding the administration, FBI, and them to account, but I'd also be calling in witnesses from corporate America, from universities, etc., to drill down and focus in on the layers of involvement in shaping what is going on.
		Because there's a term that I There's a term called entryism that the Soviets and the Marxists used back in the 30s.
		The idea was, get into these institutions, academic, government, state level, etc., and you're a termite and you take over from within.
		It might take decades and decades, but you need to get inside these institutions and co-opt them.
		We need to put a spotlight on all of that.
		And then I would tell appropriations, for example, and armed services, you defund the things that aren't working.
		Why are we funding a new FBI headquarters?
		Why are we funding the NGOs and the programs giving money to organizations that are facilitating the movement of people and recruiting them from Central America and places like that?
		There are so many targets, Steve, but we need to focus on three or four.
		But there has to be a common ground, common talking points, and actually focusing on defunding programs.
		We had a lot of good stuff in there in this last bill about defunding some aspects of it, but we didn't follow through.
		We caved across the board.
		And that's where I would start, but you need to staff up at that level in order to get Do the depositions, figure out who you're going to go after, and we're running out of time because here we are, it's May, Congress will go on recess in August for the election campaign.
		So we really missed the boat with this whole Congress here because no one did what they were supposed to do.
		We never had an equivalent of a January 6th Select Committee to go after the corruption and The threats that our society is facing, be it on China or domestically.
		And I'm more concerned about what's going on domestically than I am about China, actually, at this point.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, because China's here, the CCP's here.
		You can see that if you don't stop them here, they're going to roll over Taiwan.
		Eric, the FISA, actually what they did do was put forward FISA.
		You said, hey, FISA's five times worse than you think on just the extension.
		Tell me what you mean by that.
unidentified		Yeah, and just to mirror what Derek said, the reason SEAL Team 6 is so good is because Delta Force is right there next to it competing constantly.
		If you're the appropriator in Congress, I would pit, and if the FBI is not in any way doing what you want them to do in terms of investigating the actual domestic terror threats, then Give more money to HSI or some other federal agency and literally shift money from A to B. Bureaucracies will respond to that.
		What they did do with FISA, because the FBI got sick of being beat up for the 246,000 times that they accessed commercial data from big tech to basically go on fishing expeditions.
		They could do this without a warrant.
		They got sick of being called on Congress.
		So the FISA Was not an extension.
		It was a massive enlargement so that now it says any, any federal agency can go to any company that holds any data and order them to turn over that commercial data without a warrant.
		So it is a massive, um, uh, I would say a breach of the fourth amendment and, and it's disgusting.
		And, and I'm just shocked that any Republicans would vote for it.
		And it's, um.
		I don't know.
		Why do we send these guys to Congress to represent our rights if they just continue to roll over for an over bloated national security state?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, but you warned me about this a couple of years ago.
		This is why you spent the last couple of years doing the unplugged phone.
		Talk to us about the unplugged phone where people can go because you said, hey, this surveillance state's not going to go away until we break it and only a guy like Trump can break it.
		It's only going to enlarge itself.
		And you just had a great example here in this Congress.
		This is not an extension of FISA.
		This is a massive enlargement of FISA.
		Tell me about how unplugged can stop it.
unidentified		So the unplugged phone came after the nonsense of the 2020 election when big tech was canceling certain voices, throwing people off of app stores and true censorship.
		So we developed a independent phone outside of the Google and Apple universe that they cannot cancel.
		And so it is our hardware with our operating system and we don't have an advertising ID.
		This big Pfizer extension Directly is is is prevented by an unplugged phone because this phone allows you to keep control of all your data And it's not being leaked to whatsapp or to facebook or to instagram or all those because this phone Doesn't have an advertising id and our operating system blocks the app's ability to collect where you go what you buy who you call what you browse and
		It prevents the apps from turning on the microphone, from turning on your GPS, from turning on your camera without your permission.
		And believe me, your existing Google and Apple phones do that.
		I've had so many people come to me and say, yes, I was talking to my wife about buying a mattress in their bedroom.
		And the next day they're getting advertising.
		...for mattresses, which means their phone is actually listening to them in the bedroom.
		Go figure.
		So you can order a phone today.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We have 10,000 phones.
		Eric, hang on one second.
		I'll bring you back after the break.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Eric, where do they go to get information?
		One of the things we know that works with our audience is to immerse them in information.
		They've obviously, they're MAGA, they're War Impostors, they're going to have a ton of questions.
		Where do they go to find out more about the phone you've dedicated the last couple of years of your life on?
		Plus, you've got a podcast, you're up on social media.
		Where do they go to learn more about your current thinking?
unidentified		So, first of all, go to unplugged.com forward slash war room.
		You can order phones.
		We have 10,000 just arrived, so it'll ship next week.
		My podcast is called Off Leash with Eric Prince.
		It's available on Spotify and YouTube and all those normal channels.
		And three, you can find me at Real Eric D. Prince.
		E-R-I-K, D as in Delta, Prince, on Twitter, on X. Eric, thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		Glad you're back among the living, sir.
		Thank you.
		Eric Prince.
		Colonel Harvey, Now more than ever, we need your thinking and your leadership, to be brutally frank.
		The House Intelligence Committee, under Turner, is a disgrace.
		It's just flat out a disgrace.
		You can't say it any... it's a disgrace.
		What they're focused on, and what they're hiding, and what they're hiding, particularly with Sequoia Capital and others, it's all going to come out.
		People on that committee, and staff on that committee, understand, it's all going to come out.
		And when it comes out, you know, unless people start stepping up, there's going to be plenty of guilt to spread around to what's happening over in that committee, which is, I say, a disgrace.
		Colonel Harvey, where do they go for all your information?
derek harvey ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for that, Steve.
		First, I would recommend people go to DerekHarvey.org.
		And every time I've been on your show, I get lots of requests for speaking engagements.
		So I appreciate that.
		That's at DerekHarvey.org.
		On Truth Social, it's at Derek Harvey.
		And on Twitter, it's Colonel D. Harvey.
		That's Colonel D. Harvey.
		Thanks again, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		By the way, if you want to get a great speaker, Colonel Harvey, his level of knowledge, not just knowledge, but he's a man of action.
		What he's done for this country is incredible.
		Also, his wingman, Brian Costello, make sure you follow him on.
		Brian Costello is lighting people up every second of every day.
		He's great.
		Thank you very much, Colonel Harvey, for taking a Saturday morning with us.
		He is great.
		Dave Brat, observations on what you just heard from our guys before we pivot to capital markets and economics.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, they're both outstanding.
		I grew up in Holland, Michigan, a bunch of Dutch guys with Erik Prince, so I've been following him and his work around the globe, and every time he comes on your show, you know, I mean, he's boots on the ground for real, understands the kinetic part and the geopolitics, and Colonel Harvey's just, You know, an American hero.
		So my hat tip to both of them and to you for picking the top talent, the honest guys that are going to turn it around.
		And I saw Harvey nodding while Eric was talking about shifting money, shifting the resources.
		If one agency is not getting it done, the money's there.
		You know, there's lighter lifting.
		You can just shift money from the corrupt pockets of funding over to the guys who get it done.
		And so I love that point.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Give me Rogoff.
		Kenneth Rogoff is kind of the dean of this area about debt and about national debt has come out and just the article is brutal.
		He says it's got to be the end of magical debt thinking.
		He says it's been enough nonsense and I'm so proud for this show of the last four or five years.
		We've hammered this topic probably more than only the invasion of our country and the Chinese Communist Party probably more.
		He's finally come out and said if this doesn't stop This is going to be republic ending, even more than that.
		It's going to be world ending, because here's why.
		You have a $300 trillion of world debt.
		It's increasing at an increasing rate, and you're going to have the world's biggest margin call, and that is going to bring a wipeout that will blow out what 2008 was.
		We'll be back to the late 20s, early 1930s depression level.
		Your thoughts, Dave Brett?
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, your whole show today summarizes the issue well, because number one, people don't think of it this way, but the economics is an internal fight of the CCP against the United States as well, right?
		They're embedded in our corporations.
		They're embedded in our big tech.
		They're embedded in our military technology.
		They're embedded in our universities.
		They're going to be found to be behind these riots, along with Soros and the other funding.
		And so the debt is one way to take down the Judeo-Christian West.
		If we have leftists inside our government and we're wasting military funding, if we're spending $20,000 per kid and we're poisoning their young minds with Marxist doctrine and ESG and how to hate each other instead of how to be great, I've got some charts coming up on the billionaires, but the billionaires on the left, none of them are out there shouting about the merits of capitalism.
		They all want to use cheap labor, which tears down the Judeo-Christian West.
		They all want to use the government.
		They have monopolies that put them in a good position.
		They're all doing business with the CCP.
		And so, as Colonel Harvey said, I'm more worried also about the internal conflicts we have going on within the United States.
		We have, all the way up to the White House, embeddedness in China and millions of dollars going back and forth in corruption.
		Mike Benz on Tucker and Your Show lays it all out there for all eyes to see.
		And the good news is the young kids on TikTok, ironically, I've been following the social, the young kids are picking up on all this stuff, right?
		They're starting to view this as a game.
		It's not a game, but they're viewing it like, can you believe this?
		They're trying to pull this over on us.
		So the debt is the culmination of all of that together.
		We're wasting trillions.
		The interest on the debt now is over a trillion a year.
		By the end of the budget cycle, just the interest on the debt is 2.5 trillion.
		And that's a huge chunk, right?
		That's roughly 10% of our GDP on just interest on the debt going nowhere, which sucks the next generation and saps economic growth and crowds out a business.
		And the billionaires, not a word about this because they're not interested in supporting the Judeo-Christian West, much less just straight out American business.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to try to cram some time in here.
		I know you've got to bounce, but I want to get to the charts and get through that because it's very important to kind of tee up what's going to happen next week when we talk about the motion to vacate and really the great unmasking because there is a great unmasking going on here.
		You've got to see who's on your side and we've got to stop kidding ourselves.
		Dave Brat just said it as politely as possible.
		He goes, hey, this thing this week, which will be more explicit, it just unveils the implicit you've had for the last 30 years.
		This is why both the Murdoch News Network and the neoliberal, neocon Republican Party have been controlled opposition.
		They've been the Washington generals to the Democrats, Harlem Globetrotters.
		It's just performative.
		They haven't really stopped anything.
		We're gonna take a short break.
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