May 4, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| In my experience and in the situation we are in right now with the Biden-Harris administration, they cannot be allowed to remain in power. | ||
| We can agree or disagree on different issues, and it's good, and we should, and we should have those conversations. | ||
| But when you look at the unprecedented abuse of power, that they are engaging in, undermining their rule of law, politicizing our government entities, targeting Americans, targeting Americans who happen to be their political opposition, whether it's Donald Trump or the mom who's protesting at a board of education meeting to have a say in what kind of education her child is getting. | ||
| This is happening across the country. | ||
| And if we, the American people, don't do something about this and stop them and hold them accountable, What happens in these elections, if they're allowed to remain in power, they will tell us, hey, you gave us a mandate. | ||
| You said, hey, good job. | ||
| Thumbs up. | ||
| Keep at it. | ||
| And we'll see everything that's happened just continue to escalate to a point where I have no doubt That our freedoms will be eroded to a point where it'll be virtually impossible to get them back. | ||
| And where do we go from there? | ||
| America no longer becomes the land of the free and the home of the brave. | ||
| It becomes the land of people who are controlled by the government and forced to comply or else. | ||
| And if you dare to have the courage to speak up and speak the truth or Say, hey, look, guys, the emperor has no clothes on. | ||
| Boys are boys and girls are girls. | ||
| And that's just how it is. | ||
| Then you will experience the retaliation or the consequences of that action. | ||
| It's Friday, 3 May in the year of the Lord 2024. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Welcome to the second hour of our late afternoon early hour edition. | ||
| I want to thank the Palm Beach team and our own Natalie Winters for handling hour one. | ||
| Now we're joined by Lieutenant Colonel Tulsi Gabbard, her new book, For Love of Country. | ||
| So I want to, I want to, that was a pretty hard throw down. | ||
| On Rogan's show, and I just want to back her. | ||
| You just got, you're promoted now to Lieutenant Colonel. | ||
| When I met you and we had you in the Trump transition, you came in, you talked to the then President-Elect about either Secretary of State, maybe Secretary of Defense. | ||
| You were in the Army then also. | ||
| You had a lot of experience in the Middle East. | ||
| Is your identity, are you more identified, when you say your love of country, more as a army officer that served your country in harm's way? | ||
| Or are you more identified as a politician, as someone that was elected to office, ma'am? | ||
| Not as a politician. | ||
| My life has been about doing my best to be of service to our country and the American people. | ||
| The experiences that I've had throughout my over 21 years in the military Three deployments to different war zones and different regions of the world. | ||
| Different conflicts and wars have very much shaped the way that I see the world and my understanding of the cost of war, my understanding of the need to see the world through a lens of realism, as it is not some fantasy many politicians wish existed. | ||
| Understand that we must always, in our decision making in domestic policy and foreign policy, make that decision on the basis of What is in the best interest of the American people and our country and our security? | ||
| And so I identify most as a proud American and one who has committed my life, yes, to service and fulfilling that oath that I took first when I enlisted in the military as a private first class and also as a member of Congress to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. | ||
| And that is my message that I'm carrying with me everywhere I go, Steve, to everyone who will listen in different groups, different political backgrounds, different walks of life, different parts of the country, that regardless of whatever differences we may have, and we're dealing with a government right now that is doing their very best to tear us apart based on race or religion or social class or ideology or politics, | ||
| We must come together as Americans who cherish peace and value freedom, understanding who we are as Americans and what this country stands for and has traditionally stood for. | ||
| We have to take a stand to defend those freedoms and to save our country from those seeking to destroy it. | ||
| And they are. | ||
| I spoke very plainly there on the Joe Rogan experience the other day. | ||
| I'm speaking plainly here now to your audience about the very real domestic threat to our freedom and our democracy. | ||
| And that threat is coming from the Democrat elite. | ||
| Yes, it is the Biden-Harris administration. | ||
| It is others who hold both elected and unelected office. | ||
| It is their friends in the propaganda media and big tech all colluding and working together to hold on to and gain more power, willing to sacrifice the interests of the American people, our freedom, and our democracy to do so. | ||
| You know, when you came and talked to President Trump, I think it was in November of 2016, it might have been early December, you laid out, and you were a Democrat at the time in Congress, but you laid out, I thought, one of the most well-thought-through, American-first national security and foreign policy, and primarily that was because of service you knew about Syria and other parts of the world that are not that covered by the media. | ||
| We had E.J. | ||
| Antonio on the morning show talking about Rogoff, Kenneth Rogoff, the great economist about debt, saying we can't have any more magical thinking on this debt. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| These $2 trillion deficits, you're going to have a republic-ending event, and it's going to come sooner rather than later. | ||
| McMasters! | ||
| Who is National Security Advisor under Trump, and I'm no fan of his, and I don't think you are either, but he's going around making speeches saying, if you look at the threats throughout the world and what we talk about the early stages of the kinetic part of the Third World War, defense spending has to go to 4% in the United States. | ||
| So Colonel Gabbard, that would put our defense spending at, I don't know, $2 trillion. | ||
| It'd add another trillion dollars to a already $2 trillion a year, $1.5 trillion a year. | ||
| As you think through these things, And you think through the issues with Biden and losing our freezer domestically, just our national security policy. | ||
| Could we handle does does the Defense Department in your mind need a $2 trillion a year defense budget? | ||
| Do we need to be that engaged in all these places all over the world that that would entail, ma'am? | ||
| I think it is too simplistic and irresponsible to just throw out a number without actually having any kind of clear and substantive evidence-based data to back up that number, especially when we recognize, unfortunately, the Department of Defense has failed every single audit that they have tried to conduct. | ||
| They have shown an inability to have a basic level of accountability of our taxpayer dollars, where they're going and how they're being spent. | ||
| And they don't even have the political mandate to do so. | ||
| So it's no wonder that they have failed. | ||
| We saw how Rand Paul's amendment to one of the original tranches of a multibillion-dollar funding package to Ukraine was received in the Senate, when he said, hey, we just came out of over 20 years in Afghanistan. | ||
| There was a special inspector general that was assigned specifically to look at the spending in Afghanistan and his reports of the trillions of dollars that were wasted or unaccounted for there. | ||
| We should do the same here. | ||
| Ukraine is a corrupt country. | ||
| It has been for a very, very long time. | ||
| Their government is very corrupt. | ||
| We need to fulfill our responsibility to the American people and make sure that whatever, if we're sending funding, we need to know where it's going and how it's being spent. | ||
| There's many other arguments around why that funding really should be called into question, given there is no clear objective, given there is no clear definition of winning in our continued funding of that proxy war against Russia, what to speak of the fact that it has specifically put our country at a greater risk, our safety and security at a greater risk, pushing us closer to the brink of nuclear war. | ||
| But just looking at a basic funding and accountability standpoint, Senator Rand Paul was essentially called a Russian asset for having the audacity to say, hey, we as representatives of the people have a responsibility to account for their taxpayer dollars and how they are being spent. | ||
| So, to say, well, hey, we should just increase the DOD budget $2 trillion without making an argument about how that best serves our country's security interests, I think is irresponsible. | ||
| And I think the American people have had enough of this. | ||
| We need to support our men and women in uniform, ensure that they have the equipment and the training and the readiness to Be the lethal force that we know them to be. | ||
| I laugh when they come to Congress and they ask for more and more money for the Department of Defense, when I know that there are soldiers who are living in inhumane conditions in some of these barracks. | ||
| They are told to paint over the mold that's growing on their walls, that's directly impacting their health, not only for the short term, but the long term. | ||
| In my home state of Hawaii, the 25th Infantry Division out at Schofield Barracks. | ||
| I was just there a few weeks ago. | ||
| I was on my annual reserve duty. | ||
| And I was sitting there in the PX, in the cafeteria, eating lunch with some fellow soldiers. | ||
| And all of a sudden, the power went out in the whole place. | ||
| And my friend who I was eating with there, I said, gosh, this is unusual. | ||
| He said, Tulsi, it happens all the time, that we have major military bases here at home in our own country. | ||
| who are having problems with power, who are having problems with water usage and availability. | ||
| The argument that we should just continue being the world's police, to continue to drive our country further into debt, chasing regime change wars and other conflicts that are counter to our country's interest, is the height of irresponsibility And just shows that their interests are not actually serving our interests. | ||
| Where we should be engaged, where we shouldn't be engaged militarily, we should look at every one of those places around the world and go through this analysis and make this strategic decision carefully and recognize that we can engage and should engage with other countries around the world. | ||
| And we can do so without the threat of military force and dropping bombs. | ||
| Your book is about a journey, and I want everybody, if you want to know more about Tulsi Gabbard, it's a very, it's an incredible book about an American patriot. | ||
| It talks about your journey. | ||
| Your biggest critics today come from people that are in the Democratic Party with you, and the other day when the Ukraine was passed, you had all the Democrats were down there waving Ukrainian flags, yet the power's going out in Schofield Barracks. | ||
| Everything you said on Joe Rogan the other day, you foreshadowed, you saw that It's so true. | ||
| You know, I joined the Democratic Party over 20 years ago. | ||
| I was 21 years old. | ||
| Because you were a Democrat, you were a vocal Democrat, and now you've kind of turned and said, hey, not only is that party not a solution to our problems, that party and what it represents, many of it are actually a big part of the key to the problem in this country, ma'am. | ||
| It's so true. You know, I joined the Democratic Party over 20 years ago. | ||
| I was 21 years old. I wanted to be of service to my home state and my community and decided to run for a seat in the state legislature. And I had to choose a party. | ||
| I'm the fourth of five kids. My parents homeschooled us. | ||
| They raised us to be independent thinkers. | ||
| And I didn't come from an inherited political ideology or partisanship. | ||
| I went through and started looking at both major parties, and what I found in the Democratic Party that resonated with me at the time was I saw a party that stood for freedom. | ||
| It was a big, open-tent party, welcomed people with different and diverse ideas, was willing to stand up for free speech, even speech they didn't necessarily like or support, stood for civil liberties, and was the party of the little guy. | ||
| That's the history of the Democratic Party in Hawaii. | ||
| They fought for the little guy who was suffering under the corporate elitist powers. | ||
| Fast-forward to where we are today. | ||
| And I spent eight years in Congress. | ||
| I was a vice chair of the Democratic National Committee, a candidate for president in the primary in 2020. | ||
| And throughout that time, did my best to try to refocus the Democratic Party back to its roots, back to the reason why I joined in the first place. | ||
| But increasingly over time, what I saw was a party that was being controlled by the likes of Hillary Clinton and others who are elitist warmongers, who cared more for their big corporate elitist donors than they did about the everyday hardworking American across the country. | ||
| They cared more for their party and maintaining power and getting power than they actually did about solving the very real problems that we have here in this country. | ||
| They reject the existence of objective truth. | ||
| And I go into each of the major issues chapter by chapter in my book, both sharing my own experiences of seeing this insanity unfold before my very eyes and just kicking to a whole new level in 2016. | ||
| When President Trump was elected. | ||
| You mentioned, Steve, the meeting that I had with him. | ||
| It was either just before or just after Thanksgiving in Trump Tower in New York City. | ||
| I was the first Democrat to meet with him. | ||
| And, obviously, as a member of Congress, invited to speak to the president-elect, our next commander in chief, I was grateful to have the opportunity to go and sit across the table from him for a good hour and talk about our country's national security, how to defeat radical Islamist terrorist groups operating in the Middle East and other parts of the world. | ||
| The response when I walked out of that building, and I don't know that you and I have ever had this conversation, but the response when I walked out of that building, within minutes my phone started blowing up and I was hearing from many of my Democrat colleagues and activists and even some members of my extended family expressing outrage, outrage that I had the audacity With the next President of the United States. | ||
| And here's the thing, the word they used that was so disturbing. | ||
| They said, Tulsi, by your meeting him, you have humanized him. | ||
| And that speaks to this sick mindset that goes far beyond having a difference on a position on issues or a specific substantive statement. | ||
| And it's how they feel so justified | ||
| As they did throughout that 2016 campaign, as they did throughout his presidency, and as we are seeing continuing to play out today, they feel in their heart of hearts that they are saving our democracy, that they are doing the right thing for the American people by undermining our democracy, by censoring people's speech, by weaponizing the Department of Justice and law enforcement, both at the federal level and at the state level, | ||
| To try to keep President Trump, try to keep the American people away from even having the option to vote for President Trump. | ||
| So when we talk about the reasons why I left the Democratic Party, it boils down to the most fundamental principles that make us who we are as Americans. | ||
| How could I, as a person, as an American who's proud to serve our country in uniform, who's grateful for the opportunity to serve The American people in different positions in public office, having taken that oath to support and defend the Constitution, how could I align myself or associate myself in any way with a political party that is led by people who are destroying our Constitution and undermining the very fabric of freedom that makes this country the greatest country in the world? | ||
| This dangerous mindset that we are seeing coming from the Biden-Harris administration And the other power elite in the swamp in Washington is no less blatant and brazen abuse of power than we see from the likes of Putin and other dictators in the world who have these pseudo democracies, but weaponize the public institutions to get rid of their political opposition, making pretend that people have a choice when really they've taken away any opportunity for that choice. | ||
| So this election is critical. | ||
| I heard you talking about it in your previous segment. | ||
| This election in particular, for me, this is the most important election of my life because it's about something much bigger than Biden versus Trump. | ||
| It is about us defending our freedom. | ||
| stopping those who are destroying our country and undermining our freedom and democracy, and allowing us, the American people, the opportunity to come together, fulfill our responsibility as citizens, and get our country back on track, tackle the great challenges we face here at home, bring our country back from the brink of World War III and nuclear war, so that we can be a free people living in a free society, | ||
| Where we are able to pursue, to have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. | ||
| You know, it wasn't random that you were there. | ||
| I talked, and I talked to Reince when we scheduled it and others. | ||
| I said, I think, because President Trump was leading a revolution in politics. | ||
| It wasn't quite evident at the time, but you had the best understanding of America first. | ||
| One of the few people I felt really had this understanding of America first when it comes to national security and domestic policy. | ||
| You articulated it very well. | ||
| You got eviscerated. | ||
| I mean, you were you were eviscerated, even to come and have a meeting with the gentleman, the president-elect. | ||
| Now that we're, what, eight years later, and you say so much more. | ||
| How did we get to this spot where now you're actually saying, hey, the country's on the line? | ||
| And because then we argued it was about managed decline by our elites and Hillary Clinton was mark one, mod zero, right? | ||
| An example of that. | ||
| Eight years later, we're in a different level. | ||
| I mean, it is we're standing on the abyss. | ||
| How did that happen to the United States of America? | ||
| You know, looking back, President Biden's biggest argument was and his supporters, they were saying he was going to be the moderating force. | ||
| He said he would be the uniter in chief. | ||
| We look back at his speech that he delivered. | ||
| During his inauguration, but what actually happened was the opposite of the rhetoric that we heard. | ||
| He has turned into the most divisive president that I've seen in my lifetime. | ||
| He has turned into a president who finds unique ways to exploit loopholes that exist, for example, to completely destroy Title IX. | ||
| Again, as we look across the country, there are 43 percent of Americans, according to a recent Gallup poll, who don't identify with either party. | ||
| There are a lot of people who feel politically homeless right now, are frustrated with the negativity and the toxicity of politics that we see playing out on a lot of cable news media, but who do care very much about the fact that now they have to be concerned about whether their little girl, who is | ||
| loves to swim, is now going to have to compete against a boy, and maybe her chances of getting a scholarship to go to school have just fallen through because of President Biden's destruction of Title IX. | ||
| We see the open borders. | ||
| I was down in San Diego, the southern border there, with Mexico, and saw firsthand in multiple occasions and multiple places how the Biden-Harris administration's open borders and facilitation and support of the cartel's multibillion-dollar human trafficking industry is like a well-oiled machine, Steve. | ||
| I went to different places along the border. And in each of these places, I encountered, in some cases, small groups of illegal immigrants from all over the world. In other cases, there was a — it was just as the sun was setting. There was a group of about 300 or 400 illegal immigrants that had gathered in this one spot. | ||
| They know exactly where to go for border patrol to come and pick them up. | ||
| And they were sitting there calmly, patiently, happy, making jokes, uh, knowing that once they go in, they get processed, they'll get that piece of paper that says they've applied for asylum and a court date that is many years down the line, uh, and a plane ticket to go to wherever they want to go in the country. | ||
| We don't know who these people are. | ||
| We don't know what their backgrounds are. | ||
| In that specific group, there were some very clearly visible gang members from Venezuela, because I talked to them and I asked them, where are you from? | ||
| What are your plans? | ||
| And one guy in particular, he had all of the tattoos and the markings of a gang member. | ||
| He was high, out of his mind, and remaining calm only because he knew that probably within 24 hours he'd be out on the street. | ||
| The list is way too long to go through right now, but we see day after day what's happening on these college campuses. | ||
| The president and his administration. | ||
| Yeah, hang on. | ||
| I know you got to bounce and I want to have you back on. | ||
| The book is amazing, For Love of Country. | ||
| People, if you want to focus and learn more about modern politics, this is the book. | ||
| Even if you're not a Tulsi Gabbard fan yet, you ought to get the book and see her journey. | ||
| Just my last question. | ||
| Because your congressional colleagues, to a person, either support Biden or things are more radical. | ||
| Am I basically correct on that? | ||
| I mean, as radical as Biden and Kamala Harris are, the congressional part of the Democrat is even worse. | ||
| How did you ever, in a million years, think that you could actually lead? | ||
| I mean, was that just brazen ambition? | ||
| Or how did you in a million years think that you could be not just the presidential nominee of that party but change that party? | ||
| Because of the American people and because of my experience traveling the country even as a vice chair of the DNC, the people that I met, the Democrats who I met in so many parts of the country reflected the same love and appreciation for freedom that you and I have and their concern for making sure That we live in a peaceful and prosperous society and have a bright future for our kids. | ||
| The Washington bubble, the fear, the fomenting of fear from Democratic leadership, even amongst members of Congress, forcing them to self-censor because they don't want to be destroyed like I have been by leaders of the Democratic Party and MSNBC and others is a very, very real thing. | ||
| And this is where I see opportunity in this election once again. | ||
| Don't assume that all the Democrats are going to fall in line. | ||
| There is an opportunity for us to come together as people who love freedom and cherish who we are. | ||
| So, we had Mike Lindell this morning. | ||
| You believe there are common sense Democrats out there, moderate Democrats, or common sense Democrats, or patriots that could hear the call and say, I've had enough of this, or independents say, I've had enough of this. | ||
| I may not love Trump, but I support these policies more than this radical agenda. | ||
| Is that essentially boils down to your pitch? | ||
| That is true, and I experience this almost every day in every part of the country that I go to. | ||
| Colonel, I know you've got to bounce. | ||
| I want to know, are you going to do a book tour? | ||
| I want to know if people can get the book. | ||
| They've got to read it. | ||
| Obviously, being a Democrat, there are a lot of people in the MAGA movement who go, hey, can we trust her? | ||
| I think this book goes a long way to giving insights. | ||
| And I will tell you, you've always been incredibly impressive. | ||
| And MSNBC hates you maybe even more. | ||
| Then people like myself and Peter Navarro, because they consider you a turncoat to their, I think, neo-Marxist movement. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Social media, website, book, book tour, all of it. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| You can get a signed copy of my book at TulsiGabbert.com. | ||
| I am at TulsiGabbert on social media platforms, or you can order the book through Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and the audiobook that I recorded and narrated myself on Audible and wherever you get your audiobooks from. | ||
| I appreciate you taking the time to have me on, Steve, and I appreciate your viewers and listeners from Taking a look, and if you don't think the book is for you, I guarantee you have a friend or family member in your life who might benefit from learning about the experience of a former Democrat who loves our country. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I think that people will love this book, quite frankly. | ||
| They just got to get it and read it. | ||
| Colonel, Lieutenant Colonel Tulsi Gabbard, honored to have you on here. | ||
| Thanks for joining us. | ||
| Eric Prince, Ben Hornwell, going to give their opinions, observations, and commentary on what you just heard in The War Room. | ||
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| Okay, Philip Patrick's going to join me tomorrow morning. | ||
| We're going to go through, and I think, I'm not so sure we're going to be able to get Eric Prince in the time we have allotted. | ||
| So if we can't get Eric up towards the end, we'll have all this commentary tomorrow. | ||
| He's also got a lot of updates on the geostrategic situation. | ||
| Birchgold.com. | ||
| I don't need to tell you you're in a time of turbulence. | ||
| You can see it every day, both domestically and internationally. | ||
| And these things are inextricably linked. | ||
| It's one of the things we try to do in The Worm is present to give you access to people and to information. | ||
| Birch Gold, I think, as you know, I've been a longtime viewer of the show for what the last almost was a four years, five years. | ||
| I know that we try to give you access to information so that you can start to have a mental map of the world. | ||
| Maybe a little different than you had before, because we try to present the information we feel is signal, not noise, and the most important things that you can do in your personal and your family life, your community life, and your nation's life. | ||
| And that's why this audience has become, quite frankly, such a political, powerful force. | ||
| It just has. | ||
| Birch Gold is one of those sponsors that do it. | ||
| Phillip's going to be with me tomorrow. | ||
| We're going to walk through a lot about what's going on with precious metals, but We provide information, we've got the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| It's very important, we believe, for everybody, working class people, middle class, to understand the U.S. | ||
| dollar, to understand currency, to understand it all, so that you can therefore, you know, understand how we finance our government, what a store of value is, what a hedge is, and how important being the prime reserve currency is For the economy of the United States, I'm not arguing that we have to be the prime reserve currency. | ||
| It has tremendous benefits. | ||
| It has big drawbacks. | ||
| That ought to be a debate. | ||
| It ought to be at the presidential level. | ||
| I think in normal times, it would be at this level. | ||
| And this year, it probably won't. | ||
| It will definitely take place in President Trump's second term. | ||
| You can see already what he's talking about the Federal Reserve and the control of the Federal Reserve and who makes decisions at the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Because right now they may kind of make their own decisions. | ||
| They have what we call monetary policy and they are monetarily radical. | ||
| The fiscal policy in this country by the executive branch and the Congress is, quite frankly, out of control. | ||
| You see that every day in your life with inflation. | ||
| So make sure you go to birchgold.com. | ||
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| Okay, the head of our International Bureau from Rome now joins us. | ||
| So, Tulsi Gabbard, quite a very controversial individual, hated by the Democrats more than most of us in the MAGA movie. | ||
| She's America first, has a very well thought through being a colonel in the army, lieutenant colonel, and served in all these different places. | ||
| Very well thought through when she talks to America first. | ||
| I know a lot of our audience is saying, I'll get to in a second, hey, she's World Economic Forum, she's one of those junior ambassadors or whatever they are, she's a globalist, and not to be trusted. | ||
| Your sense of the Joe Rogan piece, which I know you watch for us, and the interview right there, Ben Harnwell, your initial thoughts on this. | ||
| Well, it was impressive to see a former Democrat speaking so coherently. | ||
| If all we've had, if all you've had is a diet of Joe Biden's mumblings and incoherence, that was refreshing in and of itself. | ||
| So look, let's start off with the World Economic Forum, right? | ||
| I'm perfectly happy to have purity tests. | ||
| I have litmus tests on a number of issues. | ||
| There's a thing on with them. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| It helps, you know, Basically, it helps you when you have the situations of ambiguity, it helps you either say yes or no, and a bit of black or white rigidity is, I think, helpful for the debate. | ||
| With regards to the World Economic Forum, I'd be perfectly happy to say we're not going to have any contact with anybody that's ever had anything to do with Davos. | ||
| End of story. | ||
| But then Trump sent Ivanka in 2020 to Davos. | ||
| So how far are we going to go with that particular purity test? | ||
| I think what you have to do is to realize that people are on a journey. | ||
| She's clearly on a journey, having joined the Democratic Party 20 years ago. | ||
| And you've got to sort of see where people are now. | ||
| Just hang on. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Just in defense of the audience. | ||
| And look, I get this all the time and from people I'm very close to. | ||
| It wasn't like Trump going to Davos or Jared having Trump go to Davos. | ||
| I mean, she was one of these junior fellows or whatever they're called. | ||
| And remember, these junior fellows have been kind of a They get these in advance because they want these put all through the governments. | ||
| You can see with Castro's illegitimate son up in Canada. | ||
| He was one. | ||
| You got all of them. | ||
| So it's a little bigger than that. | ||
| I can understand people are very apprehensive. | ||
| You're, I think you're trying to make the point that, hey, purity, if you want to grow a movement and particularly bring in people of leadership and talent, you're going to have to take some people that maybe didn't totally agree with you at the beginning. | ||
| Is that, is that because, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy, others, JD Vance to a degree, there are a ton of people now that are, that are even on the short list of being talked about as VP or in the cabinet, That didn't vote for Trump in 16. | ||
| In fact, a lot of them adamantly opposed Trump in 16. | ||
| I selected her to come to talk to President Trump because I heard what she was saying, even in 16, about America First and about foreign policy. | ||
| Particularly, she was very experienced about Syria and about this whole thing. | ||
| It always struck me that we were trying to trigger Russia into a shooting war that the deep state In the Middle East, where we'd already given up the policy, Ben, as you know, of never allowing the Bolsheviks or the Soviets in to get a warm water porter, that the Obama administration had basically looked the other way, where the Russians were all in there, unlike Nixon, unlike Reagan. | ||
| And she was calling that out. | ||
| So people have to understand, she was America first, even more than some people in this audience. | ||
| And she had a fairly articulate, when she came up and talked to the president-elect, Right before Thanksgiving of 2016, we had Romney come up, we had the governor of South Carolina eventually became Nikki Haley, became the ambassador. | ||
| You couldn't compare their knowledge and thinking of America First to Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| I will say this as somebody who ran that party, she was head and shoulders | ||
| Above including a bunch of the generals, their mindset, the neocon mindset in the American empire mindset was she had a real sophisticated understanding back in 16 of exactly what President Trump was then just start just beginning to start to articulate that there had to be a total reformulation of the postwar international rules based order that put America first and not these global entities. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Steve, I think you've got to take, I think one has to take a gut call here, a gut check and say, what do I think of this person? | ||
| If they have sort of some of these WEF, if you have this sort of background, look at what they're saying now. | ||
| Take a gut check and say, is this person the shilling? | ||
| Are they shilling? | ||
| Are they pretending to be America first, to revert to a globalist agenda? | ||
| And that, by the way, is happening. | ||
| It has happened even in the MAGA movement. | ||
| We have seen this happen. | ||
| Or is this person genuine about where they're coming from? | ||
| If I had a gut check based on what she said on Joe Rogan, based on what she said here today on this show, I would say this is someone we have to be working for. | ||
| The MAGA movement, the America First movement, isn't a Republican phenomenon. | ||
| It is, fundamentally. | ||
| It emerged out of the Republican Party, but it is actually bipartisan, in the sense that it is hoovering up people who are dissatisfied, permanently, irrevocably dissatisfied with the GOP. | ||
| But also, there are a substantial number of people in the Democrats, the old-fashioned Democrats, supporters, Reagan Democrats, you know, if you will, blue-collar workers, who don't lap up the progressive nonsense that the party is pushing out now. | ||
| And they're looking for a new home as well. | ||
| And they're finding that home. | ||
| As you know, I correspond with these people on Gettr every day. | ||
| These are people who are coming to this movement. | ||
| And if this movement is really going, the MAGA movement, is really going to dominate for the next two, three generations, U.S. | ||
| politics. | ||
| It has to continue this outreach. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It is the epitome of the person, the sort of person we should be building strong relations with and working with. | ||
| Hang on a second, I want to bring in Eric Prince now. | ||
| Eric, you were there at the beginning on America First. | ||
| In fact, if you take from Tulsa, you first came and talked to then President-elect Trump in November. | ||
| If you cut to about five months later, really March, April of that year, you had seen enough. | ||
| You had been America First, come up in the campaign with a number of ideas about America First, but you came forward with a plan saying, look, The apparatus as we have it is a permanent war apparatus. | ||
| And the place we have to break that is in Afghanistan. | ||
| Here's the plan in Afghanistan, President Trump, that actually gets us the ability to allow, hopefully, democracy to perpetuate there. | ||
| It gives the ability to kill bad guys if we need to kill them. | ||
| But it gets us to get combat troops out. | ||
| And you saw the firestorm. | ||
| The firestorm of hatred that came after you and also me, and even proposing that. | ||
| Eric Prince. | ||
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Yeah, I think they hated me more than they hated the Taliban. | |
| Look, Washington is about money. | ||
| And the idea that we would give a plan that would spend less than 5% of what they've been spending. | ||
| allow US forces to leave, to leave a Afghan government intact and upright that would control the battle space, not the Taliban, not ISIS, was absolutely haram and forbidden and incapable of Washington to think like that. So yes, the nexus of unlimited spending of money, combined with the lobbyists, the battalions of lobbyists, serves to make a very corrupt situation. | ||
| So, he's... | ||
| Here's the point. | ||
| I hope to get you back on to Mark because I do want to talk about Unplugged for a second. | ||
| I had to get you on today, because in that time frame, Tulsi was eviscerated by the Democratic Party after she met with Trump. | ||
| I mean, like she said, how can you humanize this guy? | ||
| Eric Prince, in the spring, we come forward with this plan. | ||
| He's eviscerated, but we continue to try to push forward to extract ourselves from Afghanistan's years before Biden just threw in the towel and just retreated. | ||
| We actually had an organized plan. | ||
| Yesterday, McMasters, your nemesis, by the way, in this entire fight, McMaster is the most disastrous of all the national security advisors for President Trump. | ||
| I don't know, Bolton may be close. | ||
| But McMaster said yesterday in a speech that the Defense Department needs to go, immediately American spending on the Defense Department needs to go to 4%, which right now would take our budget to $1.5 to maybe $2 trillion. | ||
| I think we're at $3.25, $3.5. | ||
| trillion dollars. I think we're at 3.25, 3.5. Take it to 4% or more, which would increase the defense budget to over a trillion and a half, maybe 1.75 trillion a year, add possibly another 500 billion to another trillion dollars into the deficits, we're already at one and a half, two trillion dollars. | ||
| Your thoughts about that, Eric Prince? | ||
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It's absolutely disgusting. | |
| There is so much fat. | ||
| There's layers of fat upon layers of fat surrounding the Pentagon. | ||
| If they would focus on any kind of remote efficiency of procurement and they have to break up the cartel That has become the defense industry, the defense industrial base, because they've allowed a massive over consolidation. | ||
| You used to have a hundred major defense contractors. | ||
| Now it's down to five. | ||
| And so they basically dictate terms to the contracting officers of the Pentagon. | ||
| Absolutely unacceptable. | ||
| Uh, the next administration must appoint a sec def that will a break up the defense industry B force some actual competitive bidding and allow innovation. | ||
| The problem is the procurement system takes so long that it squeezes out every little guy and it forces them into the corrupt umbrella system of one of the big five. | ||
| And so they end up doubling, tripling, quintupling the price. | ||
| For example, the main drone system that was used by the U.S. | ||
| Navy and U.S. | ||
| Special Operations during the whole global war on terror was originally designed for tuna fishing to launch off the roof of a tuna boat. | ||
| When Boeing bought it, They quadruple or quintuple the price of that product. | ||
| Same product. | ||
| So it's an example of there's thousands of just how uncompetitive these defense monsters are and there's nothing anywhere close to being competitive. | ||
| We're gonna try and get you back on tomorrow. | ||
| Talk about what really the FISA extension. | ||
| It's much, much more draconian than people know. | ||
| But I gotta bounce. | ||
| I know the audience response to Unplugged was extraordinary. | ||
| Tell me about Unplugged. | ||
| Why should people get it? | ||
| And where do they go for the site to find out more information? | ||
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You go to unplugged.com forward slash war room. | |
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| Okay, Eric Prince, I want everybody to go check it out. | ||
| Immerse yourself, they've got tremendous information over there. | ||
| Unplugged.com forward slash worm, make sure you go check it out. | ||
| Eric, I'm going to have you back on to talk about FISA because people I think are shocked. | ||
| This is all about my motion to vacate on Johnson. | ||
| You've got to understand what really was in FISA. | ||
| Eric, thank you so much for coming on. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| Cheers. | ||
| Ben, I did ask Tulsi about the flags on the Democratic Party waving on the floor. | ||
| You see the fights. | ||
| We've still got fights today. | ||
| I mean, when President Trump wins and comes back in, just don't think that the neocons in the Republican Party, the neocons that are embedded in the national security thinking of the Republican Party are automatically going to go away. | ||
| This is going to be, I'm just telling this audience, the America First part of this on national security is going to be a continual fight. | ||
| But I want a quick update from you. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong, and I think you pointed this out and we focused here in the War Room with you about this manpower shortage in Ukraine. | ||
| With all the money going around and going back and forth, the central beating heart of it Is that the young people in Ukraine do not want to serve, their parents particularly don't want them to serve, they understand they're going to the Toronto House, there's been a huge flight of the country, but the collapse of what looks like the Ukrainian army, and it looks like at least the ports I'm reading it could be a collapse, is coming through a lack of manpower, sir? | ||
| That's right, Steve. | ||
| If you give me a quick moment, I just want to hoover up something that we were saying about Tulsi before moving on to Ukraine, because she has actually responded to these accusations. | ||
| Her response to the accusations with regards to the World Economic Forum is, she says this a year ago, just a little over a year ago, I've never gone to any of their events I've literally not had anything to do with the World Economic Forum. | ||
| What they were doing in Davos is that they were putting people who were up-and-coming stars on their website and listing them as young leaders. | ||
| I seem to remember, I can't remember who it was, but there was a GOP guy who was elected like a year ago. | ||
| He had to sue them to get them to take his name off the website. | ||
| I think it was Vivek. | ||
| I think that was Vivek. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I'm not sure about the details. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I have. | ||
| Yeah, I've not gone into the details of all that because that sounds almost too fantastic. | ||
| But we will go into the details because I understand with our audience, it's a big deal. | ||
| And so we will pursue that. | ||
| And maybe we'll hopefully get you back on tomorrow. | ||
| I'm running out of time. | ||
| Just a minute on this. | ||
| I'll get you back tomorrow. | ||
| Because this Ukraine thing is now moment by moment. | ||
| Is there look like an imminent collapse of the Ukrainian army because of the lack of manpower? | ||
| Well, the commander of the Ukrainian ground forces did put out a statement this morning, I think it was, blaming his Western allies for the recent setbacks on the Eastern Front, which was very generous, I think, of the Ukrainian army to do all things considered. | ||
| Our favourite Langley Bugler has an article, I'll be posting the link of this on my getter, has this headline, Ukrainian men abroad voice anger over pressure to return home to fight. | ||
| This is sort of obviously building on what we've been talking about on the show over recent weeks, the diaspora and the strange connivance on behalf of the European countries to actually discover that it has the power to send people, refugees In its country to send them back, which is a great precedent. | ||
| Sad that it's applying it to these young kids who obviously don't want to go and offer up their lives to the greater effort of Biden's re-election chances in November. | ||
| So yes, there are things very much going on in Ukraine. | ||
| The Russians are increasing their bombardments and every day there are villages on the east, on the northeast in Donbass that are falling to the Russians. | ||
| So something is definitely moving. | ||
| And the Ukrainian response is to say, well look, you didn't give this stuff when we asked for it, so it's your fault. | ||
| On a scale of one to ten, ten being perfection, one being Mia, how would you grade Tulsi's interview here in the War Room? | ||
| 10. | ||
| I mean, I think it was absolutely perfect. | ||
| I'll tell you the one thing that I liked right at the beginning, Steve. | ||
| No, it was perfect. | ||
| I mean, what do you thought? | ||
| You have more you could agree with there than you have with half of the Republican Congressional Conference right there. | ||
| I'll tell you what I liked about that. | ||
| I don't know how much time I have. | ||
| I liked the very beginning. | ||
| She basically said, you know, that the country's sort of splitting apart and it needs to find unity. | ||
| Well, any generic GOP hack could have said that. | ||
| But what did she say needed to unify around? | ||
| She said freedom. | ||
| Our freedoms, right? | ||
| It wasn't sort of we need to unify around our institutions or about values or about diversity or any of the favourite buzzwords of either the Republicans or the Democrats. | ||
| She said we need to unify around freedom and against our enemies. | ||
| And she listed who the enemies were. | ||
| I mean, it was perfect. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, you're officially now a fanboy of Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| I want feedback in the live chat. | ||
| And of course, Ben, over at Getter, where you post magnificent stuff with huge engagement, where do people go? | ||
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At Harnwell on Getter. | |
| I've always liked Tulsi Gabbard, to be honest with you, Steve. | ||
| I've always found her remarkable. | ||
| She's pretty impressive. | ||
| The book's impressive. | ||
| I understand the audience. | ||
| A lot of people still have holdbacks, particularly somebody who's in the Democratic Party. | ||
| But that's good. | ||
| You should do that. | ||
| You should look at all of it with a jaundiced eye. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, thanks for staying up. | ||
| Hopefully we'll see you tomorrow. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
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God bless. | |
| Okay, Lou Dobbs is next. | ||
| We're going to be back 10 o'clock tomorrow morning. | ||
| Philip Patrick will join me. | ||
| Hopefully Eric Prince, Colonel Derek Harvey, Ben Harwell. | ||
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| We're going to talk a lot about the motion to vacate. | ||
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