March 8, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Restoration of full rank and back pay for the 8,600 service members who were VAX mandated out of the military. | ||
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Uh, no. | |
| I won't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just kind of appalling that, uh, total double standard from the SECDEF. | ||
| I don't know a decision that Lloyd Austin has made that's helped strengthen the military. | ||
| And, uh, Rep Gates is right to talk about the 8,600 who were forced out. | ||
| Welcome. | ||
| That was a special forces green ray who was assigned at seven special forces group in 2020. | ||
| I joined the military because I wanted to. | ||
| It is Thursday, 7 March year of the war 2024. | ||
| It's the pregame for State of the Union, and we're honored to have the firebrand, Congressman Matt Gaetz, and a very honored guest, Captain John Frankman, Green Beret and traditional Catholic, I might add. | ||
| Why, and we can play more of this, we'll play more of it later, why tonight at State of the Union, why are you bringing Captain Frankman in, and what message are you trying to show to the nation? | ||
| As we've talked about often on this program, my district has one of the highest concentrations of active duty military in the country. | ||
| And so when the Pentagon gets the sniffles, we get pneumonia. | ||
| And what the Pentagon did to military families is still causing grave harm in my district and throughout the country. | ||
| Captain Frankman, tip of the spear, served as a green beret, the very best that the United States Army has to offer, and truly some of the most inspirational people I've ever met in my life. | ||
| John was serving in that elite group, and as a consequence of the vaccine mandate was driven out. | ||
| Hang on, hang on. | ||
| Isn't this, are you saying that this is about vaccine injury, vaccine excess? | ||
| The vaccine mandate. | ||
| You're just saying the mandate itself. | ||
| You're just talking about the mandate. | ||
| I want to make sure you're not a conspiracy terrorist. | ||
| Well, hey listen, I've got tape to get you on that. | ||
| Today we actually had the first hearing in the House Armed Services Committee on vaccine injuries in the military and the physicians that were there looked like fools having to assess this data showing increases in problems with pregnant women with pulmonary embolisms, with myocarditis, I had one of the physicians look at me and say, oh well, you know, some of these are chronic conditions. | ||
| I said, a pulmonary embolism? | ||
| You have almost 50% increase in pulmonary embolisms and you say that that's a chronic condition? | ||
| Sounds a lot like an acute condition to me and everyone who's ever had a pulmonary embolism. | ||
| But the mandate made our nation so much weaker. | ||
| back and talk about what that is. I want every American to know that there are still great patriots like John Frankman who resisted that mandate, who stood on their faith. What was the mandate by the Pentagon and the individual services? | ||
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What was it? So the mandate was to receive the COVID shot, the COVID vaccine. And the mandate went into effect in August of 2021. But it was long before that, that we were receiving the pressure and the coercion to receive the shot and we were being punished for it. | |
| As a detachment commander, I joined the military because I wanted to serve my country, glorify God, and I'm a Catholic first and foremost, spent time in seminary, so when I found out that these shots used aborted fetal cells, I had hesitancy about getting it, and I told my guys I would neither. | ||
| When you found out it was an experimental gene therapy, that's what changed your mind? | ||
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It was continuing prayer and weighing out, one, the aborted fetal assault piece, that it's the murder of the unborn child, the theft of its body parts, and yeah, that it actually hurts me. | |
| And another definition for sin is an act against reason. | ||
| And it would be unreasonable for me to put my body in jeopardy for a disease I have a 99.99% chance of surviving, when I already know that it causes myocarditis, and it's just not needed in young, healthy people such as myself and my soldiers. | ||
| Did you have any flexibility at all when this first started coming down? | ||
| You're in the Army Green Beret, right? | ||
| When this first started coming down from the Army, was there any flexibility at all? | ||
| Was there any way that you could put in for a religious exemption or some sort of exemption? | ||
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So I did put in for a religious exemption. | |
| And before the mandate came out, my team, being 10 and 12 not vaccinated, we had the deployment taken from us that we'd been training up for for months. | ||
| We had air assets allocated to us. | ||
| We were a military free fall team. | ||
| And before the mandate came out, because of the punishments, because of First Special Forces Command policy, they made it a requirement to be vaccinated in order to deploy. | ||
| And we had these kinds of policies going on and other kind of pressures to get vaccinated. | ||
| So really there wasn't a choice. | ||
| A point on those exemptions. | ||
| The investigations that my office ran found that the denials of the religious exemptions were form letters. | ||
| So you had these service members Pouring their heart and soul. | ||
| A lot of thought and due diligence went into it. | ||
| And by the way, the law says... A tough break for a swell guy. | ||
| Yeah, well, the law says that every one of these exemptions is entitled to specific and itemized review. | ||
| And they are entitled to individual review, not to be batched together. | ||
| And they got responded to with form letters. | ||
| And you have people with deep faith. | ||
| It's deeply founded. | ||
| And they were totally mistreated and disrespected. | ||
| Was your entire unit Held back from a deployment so it was collective guilt because you wouldn't get vaccinated, everybody, the unit couldn't go? | ||
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Myself and the team didn't get vaccinated so we weren't allowed to go on that deployment. | |
| And the team, your entire team did not get vaccinated? | ||
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The majority of my team did not get it until the mandate came out because they knew it was emergency use authorized and therefore the drug companies would not be held liable. | |
| They had families. | ||
| They were worried about how do I pay for my family? | ||
| What do I do if I'm not paying? | ||
| After the mandate came, how many members of your team got vaccinated? | ||
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The rest of the team got it after the mandate came out. | |
| And they still withheld a deployment just to punish you? | ||
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They withheld the deployment to punish us, I'm pretty sure, and that's based on first SFC policy. | |
| So the military, the DOD, is trying to figure out how do we get as many people vaccinated as possible so they make it a requirement to travel to career enhancing schools. | ||
| Did your team hold it against you that you held out? | ||
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No, my team was very supportive of me and they're supportive of me now. | |
| Even after the mandate came out? | ||
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After the mandate came out, the deployment had already, we had already lost the deployment. | |
| Okay, not speaking of John's team, but let me, let me pull back the curtain here a little bit. | ||
| A lot of these guys submitted paperwork that they got vaccinated and they didn't really get vaccinated and they felt like because the military was lying to them that they could produce documentation that wasn't that wasn't consistent with what they had received. So you can see how since they didn't get vaccinated, there was fine. | ||
| Didn't get COVID or whatever. | ||
| Well, now you have the CDC saying if you have COVID, just stay home 24 hours after the fever subsides. | ||
| So the fact that lives were destroyed, I worry that we move past that. | ||
| And I want to reinvigorate the move to give reparations to the people who were so harmed by these vaccine mandates. | ||
| And not just the mandates themselves, but the coercion that went along with it. | ||
| And John lived that. | ||
| So the two things you want to do is, number one, for those that were forced out of the military or hurt by the military, forced to retire, you want to make sure they're taken care of first, right? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| They either come back to the military or you get full back pay, whatever it is. | ||
| Everyone, and how many in aggregate do we think that is in all the military, all the uniformed services? | ||
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I think there were probably hundreds of thousands. | |
| So we had a drop of like 50,000 people within the first year of the mandate going out. | ||
| And even though we had the 8,600 kicked out, you had tens of thousands such as myself whose careers were so irreparably harmed that we chose to leave. | ||
| And now we have this culminating effect where you have the people kicked out, you have the retention issues, people leaving, you have recruitment issues, we have an unknown number of... Do you believe the problem with recruitment is directly tied to how this was handled? | ||
| I think it's tied to everything. | ||
| It's tied to how Afghanistan was handled. | ||
| It's tied to how the vaccine mandate was handled. | ||
| We don't trust our leaders, and if we're going to put our lives on the line— Is there a lack of trust of what, the field grade or the generals? | ||
| I think it's the generals. | ||
| I think it is somewhat of the field grade, and the generals are more culpable for this, but what the field grade should have done is they should have looked at the letter of the law, understood what their oath was to the Constitution, and pushed back, because this was not helpful in supporting and defending the Constitution. | ||
| Last time I looked, we were in the House. | ||
| Why is Armed Services Committee not—and why is it always you? | ||
| Why is it always you that have to go out and do these hearings? | ||
| Why is Armed Services not on that central issue, the rot that's inside the military? | ||
| No one has done more on this than Jim Banks. | ||
| He's chaired our military personnel subcommittee, and he and I... Senator Banks. | ||
| Yeah, he and I were today pounding the so-called health care leaders at DOD over the fact that they're cooking the books on a lot of the vaccine injuries. | ||
| I believe there's an absolute cover-up... Commander Banks thinks that? | ||
| Oh, yes, yes. | ||
| He's done a terrific job exposing the funny business. | ||
| Hold on, when you say cook the books, that's going to set guys' heads on fire, blown up. | ||
| What do you mean specifically? | ||
| I believe that the military is casting data in a way to avoid the obvious conclusion that people are suffering vaccine injuries in a few key areas. | ||
| And I believe that in part because when we were asking whether or not these groups of the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated were disaggregated to see if these huge bumps that we're seeing in these really acute ailments are connected to the vaccine, and they tried to tell us | ||
| That the increase in myocarditis, pulmonary embolisms, various forms of hypertension, that that's because of the virus, not because of the vaccine, and yet when we ask for just the obvious investigative step to disaggregate it. | ||
| No empirical evidence about that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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There's too many stories, too. | |
| We just know that service members are injured, killed by this thing. | ||
| You don't have guys go to dive school and die, or maritime assessment course. | ||
| You don't have these... The shape of these guys are in there. | ||
| Where do we stand in that process of taking care of those whose careers were damaged, all of that, in just the military itself? | ||
| Where do you stand in that process? | ||
| Yeah, we failed. | ||
| We failed to put this in the NDAA, and it's the reason I voted against it. | ||
| There was a lot of good in the NDAA. | ||
| Pay for troops. | ||
| More for my district. | ||
| More for the missions I care about. | ||
| But I voted no because I made a commitment to John and to many others who've signed a military accountability pledge that I want to give them a chance to talk about that we do right by the people before we go and, you know, give the next stock bump to Raytheon and Rutherford Brumman. | ||
| I don't know what you're finding out about vaccine injury. | ||
| It's also going to change the larger narrative because this is a... This is a long road to home, man. | ||
| Big Pharma is doing everything they can to suppress vaccine injury information and Chip Roy and I actually have legislation to strip away the immunities that Big Pharma enjoys and we're going to try to get votes on that. | ||
| Talk to us about the pledge. | ||
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So Declaration of Military Accountability was signed by 231 former and active service members. | |
| You had Brad Miller on, he spoke about it. | ||
| People can go to militaryaccountability.com. | ||
| He was just on Tucker the other day too. | ||
| He was, yeah. | ||
| So it's getting some traction. | ||
| And basically because the civilian leaders... | ||
| What are you guys trying to accomplish? | ||
| We're trying to restore the military through accountability. | ||
| The ways we do that, one, people in civilian leadership, they take retirement pay away from these generals and they make sure they can't serve under senior executive service. | ||
| Other way, next president puts in good service secretaries and he calls from retirement these generals who have violated the law, calls them off of retirement onto active duty so they can be court-martialed. | ||
| So this is all according to the law. | ||
| We're doing what's within our moral and legal It depends how deep we want to go. | ||
| Let's say we want to go deep. | ||
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It would be hundreds. | |
| You're saying right now if we want to go deep in investigations you believe for full accountability hundreds of generals would be called back off of our flag officers would be called back off of at a retirement to be court-martialed? | ||
| Is that what you're telling me? | ||
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Yeah, ultimately, you take an oath to support and defend the Constitution, and when you're given an illegal order, you're supposed to push back against it, and you're supposed to fight on behalf of your service members. | |
| So if you're allowing a law to go in, and you're pressuring people to receive this shot that is experimental, that is actually doing physical damage to them, that's a huge problem. | ||
| And we know it went against People not receiving an FDA-approved shot because the FDA-approved one wasn't even namely available. | ||
| But there's more issues than just this that you were calling back off retirement on this. | ||
| Not just the vaccine mandates. | ||
| There are other issues about accountability within the woke military that you would investigate these guys on? | ||
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So my specific line of effort is with regards to the shot mandate. | |
| However, there needs to be accountability and this is a long list. | ||
| Brad's is much broader than that though, right? | ||
| He's not just on the vaccine. | ||
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He's pushing for the vaccine mandate. | |
| That's what kind of our line of effort is but absolutely Afghanistan it's terrible there has been no accountability for Afghanistan for the Chinese spy balloon for these mandates for the lowest recruitment we've ever had. We can't even get accountability for the Department of Defense losing the Secretary of Defense. I know but besides you last time I looked the House Armed Services Committee is one of the most powerful committees in all the imperial capital you got and you have incredibly bright and tough people up there And it's you and a couple other guys fighting for this. | ||
| Mills is doing a good job. | ||
| Good job. | ||
| Banks is doing a good job. | ||
| But of course, Corey, the same cast of characters I said, but it's a big committee. | ||
| It always seems to me that it's just there to push and make sure we have a bigger defense bill, that we're going to get to a trillion dollars before President Trump's second year in office for his second term. | ||
| Yeah, but I'm not on the Armed Services Committee because there's some big defense contractor presence in my district. | ||
| I think that's why a lot of people try to get on the committee to protect a particular program that is manufactured in their area. | ||
| And for me, it's the people. | ||
| Because we have such a high concentration of Army, Navy, we've got Air Force, you name it. | ||
| And that is my interest, is their families, their well-being. | ||
| And ultimately, I know that's what serves the nation best. | ||
| And they have been betrayed. | ||
| And there's no other way to say it. | ||
| And that betrayal is a stain on our country. | ||
| And people need to know it, and Republicans need to be willing to confront it, not just with messaging bills, but by using leverage, by saying no more authorizations for new starts for defense contractors until the service members are taken care of. | ||
| I know you guys got to run. | ||
| Can you just stay through the commercial break? | ||
| A couple minutes on the other side. | ||
| Just got to ask you about tonight. | ||
| All right, sure. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Nightgates has agreed. | ||
| These guys got to run, but they're going to stick around. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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Sorry, back in the warm in a moment. | |
| Okay, tonight the Constitution says on occasions the President should update the House, the Congress. | ||
| It's now getting to a formal situation. | ||
| Give me your assessment. | ||
| Everybody wants to know your assessment tonight. | ||
| What can we anticipate? | ||
| Joe Biden is going to try to bait House Republicans into some sort of raucous exchange, right? | ||
| Remember that the State of the Union gives the president tremendous home field advantage. | ||
| You get to craft... He's coming down to your house. | ||
| You get to craft... No, no, no. | ||
| You are the center of attention. | ||
| The stagecraft is all about the president. | ||
| They have a lot of flexibility regarding the duration of this experience, the pomp and circumstance. | ||
| So he's going to blame us for the border, which is really laughable. | ||
| And rather than just allowing that to sort of sit as a thud, my concern is that some of my colleagues are going to raucously exchange that baiting. | ||
| And what that will do is make Joe Biden look vigorous, where he otherwise wouldn't. | ||
| Okay. The issue is not whether some fine point of Joe Biden's policy agenda. This isn't the Clinton era. He's not going to announce a new blue ribbon commission or a new moon shot. It's not going to be two and a half hours. Exactly. People can't afford their groceries. People can't afford their heating oil. So this is not a situation where we're really in a policy debate. Millions of people are going to watch this thing and they're going to say, is Joe Biden up to it? | ||
| Is he up to it? | ||
| And if we give him kind of a situation where he gets to look like a lion tamer standing above a raucous crowd, then we're playing into his hand. | ||
| I will be sitting quietly like a Southern gentleman. | ||
| And I promised my mother I would not be texting too often. | ||
| Last question. | ||
| Some of your closest colleagues and the people that you think most highly of may not be in attendance tonight. | ||
| Your thoughts on that topic? | ||
| I've learned that I don't set the social calendars of my colleagues and they don't set mine. | ||
| Great answer. | ||
| Do you have any idea where you're going to sit? | ||
| Are you going to be near MTG? | ||
| Is it going to be a group of... I sit near Timber. | ||
| I sit the same place every time. | ||
| I'm a backbencher, so I sit on the second to the last row on the center aisle. | ||
| I got the mountain man, Tim Burchett, on one side. | ||
| Probably the firebrand from Colorado, Ms. | ||
| Bobert, on my right. | ||
| Okay, fantastic. | ||
| And we're all going to be on our best behavior. | ||
| Social media. | ||
| Where do people get all your stuff? | ||
| At Matt Gaetz, at Rep Matt Gaetz, today's episode of Firebrand. | ||
| John goes into his story, how he joined the military, how that betrayal has played out for thousands of families. | ||
| Firebrand, anywhere you watch a podcast. | ||
| Captain, where do people go for yours? | ||
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If you want to follow me, I say follow Jesus Christ first. | |
| Afterwards, if you still do, you can find me at Johnny underscore Franks. | ||
| That's Johnny1N underscore Franks. | ||
| And I'm on Twitter and Insta. | ||
| Kempta, thank you very much. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| We'll be looking for you guys tonight. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Let's go to, we got Congressman Andy Biggs is with us. | ||
| Congressman Biggs, thank you. | ||
| Your assessment. | ||
| First off, Congressman Biggs, I didn't get a chance to ask Matt this, but your assessment of how we got rolled. | ||
| You're my guy on the deficit. | ||
| I think the Mass Charities are going to have $2 trillion, $2.5 trillion on this bill that your colleagues are going to pass. | ||
| How do we get rolled like this? | ||
| We get rolled like it because, um, we don't have it. | ||
| We have 74, we have 85 people, I think, voted against it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So that means that we just simply don't have enough people, enough horses to actually tame Mike Johnson right now. | ||
| And so we got rolled on that. | ||
| The second thing is we got rolled when we allowed Mike Johnson to say almost immediately after he became speaker and we started talking about budgeting, he said, We're never going to shut the government down. | ||
| We can't afford to shut the government down. | ||
| That took away his leverage. | ||
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And I think people like myself, I proffer— Why are they such cowards? | |
| Why are they such cowards about shutting the government down? | ||
| He promised us he was going to shut the border. | ||
| Nothing in here is about shutting the border. | ||
| Johnson committed to people that he was going to secure the border. | ||
| He had every opportunity to do it. | ||
| Why is he so afraid of forcing Biden, of shutting down the government, and forcing Biden to the table? | ||
| I'm going to give you what I think are two or three reasons. | ||
| Number one, he's afraid That doing something like that, he might get vacated. | ||
| He thinks somebody's going to come after him. | ||
| I don't believe that's the case. | ||
| Number two, he's been told by the people that he has surrounded himself with, that it is a political loser for us to shut the government down. | ||
| And I don't believe that to be the case either. | ||
| I gave him a bill that would have targeted cuts. | ||
| How did he get sucker punched? | ||
| He went in there and he believed whatever they told him. | ||
| certain things we had to and then we didn't fund the rest. | ||
| He liked that, but he was afraid to do it. | ||
| Third thing is, he just got sucker punched by, of all people, Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer. | ||
| And I find that absolutely stunning if you want the truth. | ||
| How did he get sucker punched? | ||
| He went in there and he believed whatever they told him. | ||
| He believed whatever they told him. | ||
| And so he gave up all leverage on the budget, which once you gave up all the leverage on the budget, he gave up all the leverage on the border, Steve. | ||
| So that means that we could pass H.R. | ||
| 2, but the lawless administration of Joe Biden would not enforce it. | ||
| And if you want to enforce the law, that means you have to use the one check that the founders gave. | ||
| And that is the most dramatic one. | ||
| That's to control the money. | ||
| And you cut off their money supply and they wouldn't do it. | ||
| By the way, we've put him on notice tonight. | ||
| We don't want to see him bouncing up and down, clapping every time Biden says one of these ridiculous things where you have to be appropriate, you should be appropriate, but it shouldn't be any more than that. | ||
| Congressman, where are we going to find you tonight? | ||
| Gates gave us his usual location up there with Boebert and Burchett as a backbencher. | ||
| Where can we find you when the camera goes around the place? | ||
| You're not going to find me there, Steve. | ||
| I'm not there this year. | ||
| This is maybe the first time I haven't gone. | ||
| I've gone, even when he did the delayed COVID deal and they only invited like 80 Republicans in, I was asked to come and I went. | ||
| I'm not going. | ||
| I'm going to actually either be in my office or be in my house, and I'm going to be commenting on social media. | ||
| And we're going to do fact-checking. | ||
| That's what my staff did last year. | ||
| They fact-checked the entire time. | ||
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But why are you not going? | |
| Is that an insult to the institution of the House and the institution of the President? | ||
| Yeah, my feeling is that he has so denigrated the office of President. | ||
| that there's no rationale for going. | ||
| The second reason is this. | ||
| I don't need to go and hear him gaslight the American people and lie to them and give anybody the satisfaction of saying, oh, Andy Biggs was there and he must be okay with this. | ||
| I am not okay with this. | ||
| I am not okay with what this administration is doing. | ||
| I'm not okay with this move to authoritarianism. | ||
| I am not okay with the emasculation of our, of our sovereignty. | ||
| I am not okay with spending us into oblivion with almost $3 trillion in national debt increase in the last 12 months alone, Steve. | ||
| No, I'm not going to give anybody the satisfaction, let anybody say that I'm giving this guy the respect that he doesn't deserve. | ||
| I respect the office of President of the United States because that is an institution. | ||
| I do not respect the current holder. | ||
| Congressman Biggs, where can people follow you, particularly tonight, when you and your staff are putting stuff up on social media? | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| At Rep. | ||
| Andy Biggs, AZ. | ||
| At Rep. | ||
| Andy Biggs, AZ. | ||
| Congressman, thank you. | ||
| We'll be online. | ||
| We'll be checking social media and seeing what you and your staff, as you fact check Joe Biden so he can't gaslight the American people. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Thanks. | |
| Scott Besson. | ||
| Scott, you're one of the smartest financiers on Wall Street. | ||
| The Daily Mail has a huge story up there today, one of their lead stories, that says that Joe Biden's going to put the Bayonet Class on notice. | ||
| He's going to talk about a 25% tax. | ||
| It's all about going after the wealthy and the super wealthy tonight. | ||
| Your assessment, sir? | ||
| Well, of course he's got to go after the wealthy and the super wealthy. | ||
| There are more of them since he's become president. | ||
| Since Joe Biden's become president, a huge amount of the gains have accrued to the top 15% of Americans. | ||
| They've never had it so good. | ||
| So, you know, he robbed the working class bank and took it to the bank of the 15%. | ||
| Now he's got to try to get some of that cash back. | ||
| I know you're working on some analysis, but when you say, hey, he went to the working class bank, took out some value, took out some increase in wealth, and gave it to the elite bank, what do you mean by that? | ||
| Well, I mean that under Joe Biden, real wages for the bottom 15% of earners. | ||
| And I just mean that in an economic sense. | ||
| I think the bottom 15% earners are really the top percent of Americans. | ||
| And so they've lost real purchasing power since Biden has come into office. | ||
| And the top 15% who own the assets of the country have never had it so good. | ||
| How can you? | ||
| Didn't he try, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he try last January 23 to put a billionaire's tax in? | ||
| He had a bunch of speeches about it. | ||
| He made a big deal about it. | ||
| This is Joe from Scranton. | ||
| But then it just kind of went away. | ||
| All the the Schumer and the crowd in the Senate, because the Democratic Party is really financed by billionaires. | ||
| They kind of put up a say this is not going to happen and it went away. | ||
| Haven't we seen this movie before from this guy? | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, we've seen the movie, but what we haven't seen is the transfer of wealth. | ||
| The bottom 50% between the Biden administration and the Federal Reserve, there's a toxic brew. | ||
| And I call it the three I's. | ||
| Inflation, interest rates, and immigration. | ||
| Inflation has taken away real purchasing power, interest rates we are starting to see for the bottom 50%, the car loans credit card, the credit card non-performers go up, and then immigration has suppressed wages. | ||
| You know, could you imagine what wage gains would have been for working class Americans If we'd had the same immigration policy under Joe Biden as we had with Donald Trump. | ||
| They want us to believe that somehow the one place in the world where supply-demand doesn't work is immigration. | ||
| Scott, can you hang on for a second? | ||
| We're taking a short commercial break. | ||
| I just want to go back through the three I's. | ||
| I want to make sure people keep that in mind tonight as what a heuristic device when watching Joe Biden. | ||
| If you're so inclined to watch Joe Biden. | ||
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| Christian company with Christian values that support your values you give what 10% back to back the tithe to Second Amendment to first responders to veterans groups all of it patriot mobile comm slash ban and go check it out today Short break back in a moment. Here's your host Stephen K Scott before I let you go. I just want to make sure tonight when people are watching the toxic brew | ||
| Can you give me the three eyes again? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Inflation, interest rates, and immigration. | ||
| They have combined to form a toxic brew for working class Americans. | ||
| And when you hear that working class Americans are not happy with the economy, you should think about those three. | ||
| They're caught. | ||
| They're caught in this is inflation, negative purchasing power under Joe Biden. | ||
| Interest rates have gone from basically zero to 5%, obviously much more for poorly rated buyers. | ||
| And then immigration, the people who come across the border, they don't take people's jobs at Microsoft. | ||
| So, you've committed to us. | ||
| take working class Americans jobs. | ||
| And the. | ||
| The chair of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, said on 60 Minutes that immigration was one of the things that push wages down, so everybody should think about those three things and think about how Joe Biden has helped the billionaire class. | ||
| So you've committed to us, you're going to watch the speech tonight, take notes, and we'll have you back on in the morning show and go through your independent assessment of this. | ||
| I'd be glad to. | ||
| I'm also publishing a piece outlining my views on what they call Bidenomics. | ||
| I call Bidenism because it really is like Peronism in Argentina. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Scott, you're one of the smartest guys on Wall Street, one of the smartest hedge fund managers. | ||
| Thank you for joining us. | ||
| We look forward to seeing the piece and we look forward to having you back on here tomorrow morning. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Good night. | ||
| The Toxic Brew. | ||
| Inflation, interest rates, immigration. | ||
| The three I's. | ||
| Make sure tonight, if you're going to watch it, keep that as one of your framing devices. | ||
| Very honored to have, I think, one of our favorite guests in here, Saban Howard. | ||
| You're back from, you might have to get a little closer to that mic. | ||
| You're back from England. | ||
| Tell us what, tell us when you left, what's the status of this incredible sculpture? | ||
| Well, we're just rocking it at this foundry. | ||
| We got three quarters of a 60 foot long bronze wall assembled. | ||
| We got another eight weeks and the full 58 feet, 38 characters. | ||
| Ready to ship it and we will land it in DC for an unveiling on September 13th of this year. | ||
| This is really an unheard of thing. | ||
| It's a miracle that's about to happen. | ||
| Saban was nice enough today to come by and to spend some time with the team and also to bring, I don't know, do we have the b-roll? | ||
| Can we play? | ||
| It's going? | ||
| Right there you see in our own studio, that is a That's not a replica. | ||
| Tell us what we saw there, because that we couldn't even lift it and put it into the war. | ||
| We tried to, but my scrawny staff here, we're not manly enough. | ||
| Not enough room. | ||
| We kind of came and couldn't even put it up. | ||
| I brought you today the actual piece that passed through the Commission of Fine Arts and green-lighted the project. | ||
| That's what they, when they saw that, that was the final thing they signed off and said, go for it? Yeah, yeah, after a year and a half we broke that wall down and we got through. And so when we see those figures, those are going to be almost seven feet tall, those human figures, some of them are almost seven feet tall? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The figures are no smaller than six foot six. | ||
| Some of them going up to seven foot two. | ||
| But here's the trick. | ||
| It's like the project was like, let's make the figures, let's minimize them. | ||
| And I was like, no, let's let's do something interesting here. | ||
| We made the figures break the actual wall. | ||
| So they when you look at it, because you're looking at it from down below, you get this really monumental, heroic effect because they break the plane of the wall. They cannot be contained. | ||
| And those are like those, those are representative of the soldiers that went to fight. It's, it's both, this is both representative art, not, not this conceptual art, so it's, which most of this sculpting is done today. | ||
| So it's representative, but it's also narrative. | ||
| The 60 feet tells a narrative story. | ||
| You start at the beginning and you go all the way to the conclusion, which the conclusion is a new beginning, right? | ||
| So it's both representative and narrative. | ||
| Yeah, it's got many layers. | ||
| It's a father, a soldier, and an allegory for the United States. | ||
| And it's called the Soldier's Journey, but ultimately it is the Hero's Journey. | ||
| And so you have this soldier father, husband, United States, who leaves his family and goes across the ocean to fight in a land he's never been before. | ||
| He leads a charge in battle. | ||
| And then from that, there's a cost of war where he is transformed from having had to go through that battle. | ||
| He then returns in the final scene and hands his daughter, which is the next generation, his helmet. | ||
| And obviously, she looks into the helmet. | ||
| She's looking down into the helmet. | ||
| She divines the future, which is World War II. | ||
| How is it that when this is installed in September of this year, it'll be, what, 110 years from the beginning of the conflict? | ||
| We didn't get involved, I think, until 17 or 18. | ||
| Why has it taken over 100 years to have a monument done in commemoration and in honor of what was one of the most important events in American history because it not just triggered the entire 20th century, but it also, it took America to a place, first off, it was not fondly remembered for a long time because of all the casualties and America didn't want to get involved overseas, the League of Nations was shot down, we didn't want any more foreign entanglements. | ||
| Why has it taken so long? | ||
| For the history of the United States, really, World War I was usurped by the Great Depression and World War II. | ||
| We took greater casualties there. | ||
| And then it's the way that Washington DC and monuments went, we worked backwards from the Vietnam War to this point. | ||
| And this didn't come up till the last remaining survivor from World War I, Frank Buckles, appeared in front of Congress and it started moving then. | ||
| And so that was the impetus where I believe several presidents ago passed into legislation and appointed this land, Pershing Park, to contain this national memorial. | ||
| It's about time. | ||
| People should know that if you know D.C., right where the Marriott and the Willard are, right in that park that's become very famous on 14th Street, the monument itself will have its back to the Treasury Department and the White House and a little bit to the Willard. | ||
| It'll be looking, I guess, up Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So all the parades on Pennsylvania Avenue, you'll come and you'll see this monument in its full glory. | ||
| Yeah, this monument is It is a huge change from the way the art world and the way monuments have depicted soldiers. | ||
| I went last week. | ||
| I just wanted to see if I could find another monument that had such a narrative. | ||
| First off, you never have a narrative that tells us the story of soldiers leaving home, entering into battle, being transformed by that, and then returning home. | ||
| So this is a sculpture that's completely historical in terms of its universal. | ||
| It could be any War. | ||
| It could be any country. | ||
| And I think that's really important because why do people come to Washington? | ||
| They come to Washington to learn about the history of this country. | ||
| And so I made something that is unique for the armed forces and veterans in the military so that they will be finally recognized by something that is really on level with what they do when they enter into the service and they risk their physical being and their mental being to serve their country. | ||
| In fact, you used actual real veterans when you actually made the drawings to actually make the sculpture itself. | ||
| From the midpoint to the end, there is a soldier that leads the charge. | ||
| That's the father. | ||
| I began using veterans because I needed to make something that would really create a visceral reaction in the viewer. | ||
| And every single one of the six veterans that I use from Rangers, Marines, Navy SEALs, they all suffered from PTSD. | ||
| And each one of those men that... I sculpted their portrait and put it up on that wall. | ||
| Each one of those men carried a story that I needed to learn to make a sculpture that would like speak properly of their experience and the harrowing things that they have to... | ||
| to go through. | ||
| I brought in one veteran, Ricky Zambrano, who served in Afghanistan, came back, and we made a mini-documentary on him with my wife, Tracy. | ||
| His story, he wished to make it public, and he tried to commit suicide by swallowing 18 pills. | ||
| And then something lifted him up, And he went to the toilet and threw up those pills. | ||
| And from that moment on he realized that nobody was going to come to save him. | ||
| He had to do it from within. | ||
| Why am I telling you this story? | ||
| It's because this sculpture is about human beings. | ||
| All too often you have all these things on the media and on TV. | ||
| Well, it's just too disengaging for the general public unless you have, like, you know, a brother or a father that's been in the military. | ||
| And then you really know the repercussions of what happens when that guy comes home. | ||
| It's like they're taught to enter into the battlefield. | ||
| They're not taught to become civilians. | ||
| And so... | ||
| Sculpting from these guys I learned what it's like and I transferred that into the sculpture so that when General public goes to see this sculpture. | ||
| They're going to be affected How did you get this reminds me? | ||
| We've talked about this about this magnificent sculpture in front of the capital of General grant in the in the federal troops that defend it, but You don't see this today that was made a long time ago. | ||
| You don't really see this representative art How did you actually convince people? | ||
| Not just to do representative art, but folks, the scale of this thing is so big and so overpowering. | ||
| How did you ever convince the architect of the Capitol or the Arts Commission here? | ||
| How did you actually convince people? | ||
| Because everything else is symbolic. | ||
| Vietnam is very powerful, but it's symbolic. | ||
| The World War II, incredibly powerful, but just very symbolic. | ||
| It doesn't have a human touch to it. | ||
| Well, I went into this – bear in mind, okay, you've got 360 global design teams entering the contest. | ||
| So we come out, we win this in January of 2016, and I was fortunate enough with Centennial Commission because they were the driving force behind this project. | ||
| This was not paid for by taxpayer money. | ||
| It was like all private sector money. | ||
| I was led by this man, Edwin Fountain, who had a vision of doing something like the Schrady Memorial in front of the Capitol, which is very visceral. | ||
| You can smell the mud. | ||
| You look at the horses that are pulling the artillery wagon with the wheels stuck in the dirt and these guys like pushing the horses forward. | ||
| It's this massive kinetic energy that's emotionally driven. | ||
| So Edwin goes to me, he goes, you need to make something that when the public comes to see your sculpture, they're going to have A visceral reaction. | ||
| And they're gonna go home and they're gonna want to know more about World War I. I need something that will teach us what World War I was like. | ||
| Now, here's the funny part of the story. | ||
| I didn't read a single book on World War I. Because when I got into the project, everybody's telling you, okay, I want more biplanes, I want trenches, I want horses, I even want dogs. | ||
| And hundreds of people, very bureaucratic in nature, a lot of lawyers, and All of a sudden, everybody's a sculpting genius, expert. | ||
| And I'm supposed to field all this. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you a funny story here, Steve. | ||
| I go to the bathroom one day in my studio, and I have up on the wall this poster of The Last Judgment by Michelangelo. | ||
| I look at that poster and I go, that's what you got to do. | ||
| That's what you know. | ||
| Bring that forward. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| You hang around, we got one more segment. | ||
| Actually, Mike Lindell is also going to join us, I think from South Dakota. | ||
| I'm hearing that Mike Lindell really won the vote today. | ||
| Saban Howard's here. | ||
| A historic event is going to take place this year, later in September, the unveiling of the World War I monument. | ||
| You'll start installing it in mid-August, early August? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Right outside the Willard Hotel, across from the JW Marriott. | ||
| And was it Pershing called Pershing Square now? | ||
| Pershing Park. | ||
| It's going to become World War I Park. | ||
| World War I Park. | ||
| Pershing. | ||
| Blackjack Pershing. | ||
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Back with Saban Howard in the War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay Sabin, what are we looking at? | ||
| This camera, we've got a tremendous, this is actually the monument itself? | ||
| Yeah, passing through Commission of Fine Arts, it wasn't just go directly to the bronze. | ||
| I came up with 18 iterations and on the 18th we finally hit it with this drawing. | ||
| The drawing was the initial stage concept design for the sculpture and this was a 700 hour drawing that I did as a reference that would then pass into a model that was made in New Zealand over a four or five month period. | ||
| And then from that we went to a 5-foot model that is the one that actually is here tonight. | ||
| And you'll assign this to the War Room? | ||
| I will absolutely assign that to you guys. | ||
| Okay, we're going to keep this. | ||
| We're going to figure out some place to frame this and put it in the War Room so that we have it saving Howard the Great. | ||
| I don't want to damage that. | ||
| Nope, we can make sure. | ||
| With all my madness already here, I don't want to damage the... | ||
| I will sign it right now. | ||
| What, where you're signing it? | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| I want to go to Mike Lindell. | ||
| Come back to Saban. | ||
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Saban, you're going to sign it right there. | |
| We're going to sign it to the War Room. | ||
| Yo, is that where, are we in St. | ||
| Charles, Illinois? | ||
| Is that where we are, Mike Lindell? | ||
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| Charles, Illinois. | ||
| And I'm here. | ||
| I'm just getting ready to do a speech and we got great news coming in from South Dakota. | ||
| Everybody's happy. | ||
| I can't believe it. | ||
| Everybody, everyone in Illinois watches the War Room, Steve. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Yo, we love you guys. | ||
| Mike, give us some good news, man. | ||
| We gotta sit here and listen to Joe Biden tonight. | ||
| I've just had a great show with Saban Howard, Matt Gaetz, Andy Biggs. | ||
| We're on a high right here. | ||
| Let's finish strong. | ||
| What happened in South Dakota? | ||
| It was huge, everybody. | ||
| Remember, we were there two weeks ago at the Capitol in Pierce, South Dakota, to start going county by county to get a petition. | ||
| In South Dakota, if you get a petition of 5% of your county, you can vote to go to paper ballots and get rid of the machine. | ||
| Well, they tried to stop it. | ||
| The Uniparty Republicans tried to stop us in South Dakota. | ||
| The blockers, I call them. | ||
| Well, we won today by one vote, everybody. | ||
| One vote! | ||
| We will get South Dakota, county by county, just like we are the rest of the country. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
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It's a great day for America. | |
| And when do you think you're going to wrap up these counties? | ||
| I know you got a couple ready to go right now. | ||
| When do you think you'll have the counties in South Dakota wrapped up? | ||
| Well, there's two of them. | ||
| I've already got the numbers for the petition, so they have to go to a vote now. | ||
| We think we'll have probably at least half of them done within a couple weeks here. | ||
| We'll have enough. | ||
| The petitions are easy to get. | ||
| Everybody wants to get rid of the machines and go to paper ballots. | ||
| But we want to get all 66 counties in South Dakota. | ||
| I believe we'll have half of them within two weeks having all the petitions for it. | ||
| And then it's just a matter of the vote. | ||
| Right now, the polling in South Dakota, 90% of the people want to go to paper ballots hand-counted. | ||
| That's our polls that have been done out there. | ||
| Which is pretty typical across the country, by the way. | ||
| Mike, we'll have you back on tomorrow. | ||
| We'll talk about the company. | ||
| I'll let you get back in. | ||
| I know the folks in St. | ||
| Charles want to get the speech rolling. | ||
| St. | ||
| Charles, Illinois, we love you. | ||
| We're never going to give up on Illinois. | ||
| We don't care about Chicago. | ||
| Illinois, you guys are the best. | ||
| And we'd love to have the Warren Posse there. | ||
| Take care of Lyndell. | ||
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Take care of my man, Lindell. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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| Smithsonian Magazine, The Great War, a magnificent article about you and this sculptor. | ||
| Thank you for signing this. | ||
| One more time, just walk, I want to walk through the process because we want to follow you every step of the way. | ||
| We know Tracy, your wife, is making a huge documentary, but we want to follow every, so to back in, September 13th is the unveiling. | ||
| Sometime in mid-August it comes and be installed, but it'll be behind a cover so people won't be able to see it at the unveiling. | ||
| When does it leave England, the foundry? | ||
| around the last week of July, so it's no June, last week of June. | ||
| So it takes four or five weeks. | ||
| It's going to be in shipping containers. | ||
| So 58 feet get cut into four sections, get put into shipping containers. | ||
| They ship across the Atlantic and then they get brought to D.C. | ||
| beginning of August. | ||
| We'll close down Pershing Park and then lift them by crane and install them on the park which has already been built. | ||
| Built. | ||
| And you go for your final sign-off because you left. | ||
| There's still one, you still have one 12-foot segment to go to be cast and signed off by you? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And when will that take place? | ||
| I will be going the end of April. | ||
| April 20th. | ||
| And bear in mind that this was sculpting in the studio in New Jersey, in Englewood, in clay. | ||
| And then we would ship, even through COVID, we shipped this stuff over to England while they were casting. | ||
| So the final sign-off will be sometime late April, early May from yourself. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And that's when they will then ship it in pieces. | ||
| It'll be assembled here. | ||
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| What does it feel like to get into the final... You're now getting to the red zone of this, having dedicated, what, the last four or five years of your life to this? | ||
| Yeah, the four and a half years of sculpting the memorial. | ||
| But prior to that, I had to design it and go through a government agency. | ||
| So by the time this is all done, it's nine years. | ||
| Nine years. | ||
| Almost a decade of your life. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Worth it? | ||
| Beyond. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because I got to learn something that everybody should do in this country. | ||
| It's to be in service of something bigger than yourself. | ||
| You think this is your hope that this memorial, this monument, inspires that in people? | ||
| Yeah, this is a project that is for people. | ||
| This is not for the elite. | ||
| You don't have to read a damn book to understand this sculpture. | ||
| It's for everybody to understand. | ||
| Anyone. | ||
| Sabin, where do people go to get what Tracy's got up online, your website, all the information about you guys? | ||
| We want people immersed in this. | ||
| It's a big year for us, obviously for many reasons, but this is one of the biggest things we're going to be covering. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| You can look me up at Sabin Howard, S-A-B-I-N, SabinHoward.com, or go look on Instagram at Sabin Howard Sculptures. | ||
| Fantastic, and thank you so much. | ||
| I very appreciate you having me on. | ||
| No, thank you. | ||
| The audience absolutely loves it. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| This is back. | ||
| It's a scale that's bigger than human scale, but it has humanity in it, and that's what I think people want in art today. | ||
| The whole concept was to make the Parthenon Not at like 35 feet up in the air, but right there in front of somebody's face. | ||
| So you could reach out and touch it almost. | ||
| Sabin Howard, a renaissance man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And I can tell that. | ||
| I know Tracy has done a tremendous filmmaker and I can't wait to see the documentary. | ||
| So very excited. | ||
| We'll cover this in great detail. | ||
| Okay, I'm actually going to give, of course, I'll tell you more about it tomorrow. | ||
| Six o'clock, Natalie's going to pick up. | ||
| I've got a very special show. | ||
| I have to go give a speech. | ||
| To a group of young people that are the aspiring folks that we're putting into all throughout the Capitol to make sure we implement President Trump's policies. | ||
| I'll tell you tomorrow about my visit with Prime Minister Viktor Orban. | ||
| Got a chance to spend about an hour with him today. | ||
| Also we're going to more of our case in Italy. | ||
| The Gladiator School is back up and rolling. | ||
| You got a taste of that at the What is it? | ||
| Our Force Multiplier Academy? | ||
| Talk about that. | ||
| State of the Union. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| Natalie Winters picks up from here. | ||
| I will see you tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. |
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