March 8, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome to War Room Battleground. | ||
| It's Natalie G. Winters, not Stephen K. Bannon, but hey, we got a packed show. | ||
| We got Mike Benz, we got Joe Allen, got a bunch more people. | ||
| I think Caroline Leavitt is going to be joining us. | ||
| Gavin Wax, how's that for enticing you to stay and keep watching? | ||
| You definitely should. | ||
| We'll just get right to it. | ||
| We got Mike Benz. | ||
| Now, Mike Benz is one of the guests that I have on. | ||
| I like to always ask people what they want to talk about and they usually give me a list of things and then I choose. | ||
| Everything he sends me is something I want to talk about, and we could probably do a multi-hour, like, long special on every issue, in part because they all go together. | ||
| But I will be respectful of his time. | ||
| We'll keep him for 10-15 minutes. | ||
| Um, but I know we just have been really hammering the clip here on the war room of Merrick Garland, um, talking about how their new kind of approach to trying to basically rig the 2024 election is going to be all this selection integrity and, you know, voter suppression talk, right? | ||
| They've realized the law fair didn't work. | ||
| So they're going to their, their old tricks of ballot harvesting and all that, all that jazz. | ||
| But we know a key component of that is what they do digitally too, right? | ||
| Of course, we're at information warfare and we know Empirically how they've weaponized these big tech platforms against the MAGA movement. | ||
| Now they've tried to kind of go, I think underground or outsource it to these NGOs and these weird shady dark money groups. | ||
| But nonetheless, the, the battle print, the boot, the blueprint for what they want to do, which is secure a Biden victory still remains the same. | ||
| So I'm just curious heading into 2024, I think you're probably the best person to ask this. | ||
| What do you kind of see the landscape being in terms of how they're going to try to censor and alter the online discourse To really make sure that Joe Biden comes out victorious. | ||
| Yeah, thanks Natalie. | ||
| So, FFO, my foundation's Foundation for Freedom Online, we've been covering very specifically what their blueprint for 2024 election censorship is. | ||
| And that's to use two different weapons at the government and regulatory level to reinstall the same kinds of censorship techniques they used in 2020. | ||
| And as a quick recap, the way the 2020 election was censored on social media, Was primarily around this new terms of service violation term called de-legitimization, which meant that in the seven months before November 2020, the Department of Homeland Security and its government, other government partners, as well as this coterie of outside partners, | ||
| All coerced the tech platforms to adopt a new censorship term called delegitimization, and then mass flagged, mass reported, and used artificial intelligence to track emerging narratives around anything that might delegitimize, meaning undermine public faith or confidence in a Joe Biden victory seven months later using mail-in ballots. | ||
| Now that was an op that they pulled off successfully in 2020, but it came under immense scrutiny and legal attack in the years that followed. | ||
| So that scam that they ran to pre-censor anything that might delegitimize the Joe Biden victory is at the heart of the Missouri v. Biden Supreme Court case right now. | ||
| The America First lawsuit from Stephen Miller's group, America First Legal, Has zeroed in on this. | ||
| There have been four or five different congressional committees who have all basically issued subpoenas or had hearings on this specific issue. | ||
| So I would not be surprised if they... They're going to be running that playbook back, but they appear to be using a slightly different structure for it. | ||
| And they're doing this in two ways. | ||
| So one, in 2020, we didn't have free speech on Twitter. | ||
| It was still under Jack Dorsey's dominion. | ||
| Jack Dorsey was essentially, for all of his many successes as a founder, when push came to shove, he ultimately took the coward's way out with respect to censorship and doing censorship things that he didn't even want to. | ||
| He said he didn't want to take Trump off the platform, but it was simply a business decision because of the pressure put on the company. | ||
| But with Elon Musk now running Twitter, and Twitter being by far the largest political thought making of the social media platforms, that is Facebook's mostly for personal posts, Instagram is more for personal pictures, and YouTube, you don't have this robust system You know, most people just watch YouTube, but you can't just retweet as you can to amplify things on Twitter. | ||
| So they're using two different techniques right now, and this is according to a report from October of 2023. | ||
| This is about five months old at this point, but FFO tracked all of the major censorship industry groups in a major report they all put together. | ||
| It's about 150 pages, and they lay out two paths to reinstalling the 2020 levels of censorship. | ||
| Now, they were very upset at the time. | ||
| They felt like they were losing. | ||
| The censorship industry was losing on multiple fronts. | ||
| So they advertised this by saying, panic responsibly. | ||
| We should be in panic mode, but not all is lost because we have two tricks up our sleeve. | ||
| And those two tricks were this new EU censorship law. | ||
| You may be familiar with this, or viewers may be familiar. | ||
| It's got a sort of dull, esoteric name, the European Union Digital Services Act. | ||
| Just think of this as the NATO censorship law, okay? | ||
| Because the EU is essentially the commercial arm of NATO. | ||
| NATO has been pushing for this because they fear Donald Trump's foreign policy. | ||
| And the issue, the reason that the NATO censorship law is so existential to the integrity of the 2024 American election is because that law, in addition to taking Europe's hate speech laws, you know, no country in Europe has a First Amendment. | ||
| They have hate speech. | ||
| But in addition to that, they added a new layer called disinformation. | ||
| So, so simply anything that NATO decides is, is misdisc or malinformation is now, has to be complied with by all social media companies who operate in Europe or else they either have to lose their EU market, that is they can't operate in Germany, you know, Spain, France, etc. | ||
| or they have to pay The European Union, a 6% penalty, 6% of all their gross annual revenue, which is larger than the margin of the profit margin of any major tech social media platform. | ||
| So losing the EU market is existential. | ||
| The EU market is larger than the US market. | ||
| There's 550 million people there versus 300 million some here. | ||
| So you have to comply with this NATO censorship law. | ||
| If NATO decides that, say, Questioning the role of illegal immigrants in casting illegal votes facilitated by NGOs. | ||
| If they do the same keyword tracking they did in 2020, anyone who talks about election fraud, ballot harvesting, the 2,000 mules hypothesis, anything around having to show proof of citizenship, | ||
| Anything that might delegitimize a funny-looking Joe Biden victory may be designated as disinformation under this EU censorship law, in which case all of these social media companies would be forced, unless they go bankrupt or lose their EU market, to censor on behalf of Joe Biden. | ||
| So that's the first threat. | ||
| The second one is the state governments, but I'll pause there. | ||
| No, I'm curious. | ||
| You can go ahead on the state government thing, because I think it's interesting how they're kind of outsourcing it. | ||
| They used to go the NGO route, right? | ||
| But now they're sort of doing it at the state level. | ||
| And there's always this interesting revolving door between, I think, you know, election experts and election officials and these shady NGOs, of course, Democratic politics, too. | ||
| But so walk us through the sort of shift in battle plan in terms of how they're going to wage these wars. | ||
| Yeah, and let me be clear, they are absolutely still doing exactly what you just laid out with using the NGO swarm as the outsourced mercenary army of the federal government. | ||
| In fact, this blueprint that I'm referring to was the joint product of around 70 different NGOs in the censorship space, including all the major heavyweights like the Stanford Air and Observatory, The University of Washington Center for Informed Public, which is basically an outgrowth of the Pentagon. | ||
| The Atlantic Council, which is essentially an outgrowth of the CIA. | ||
| It has seven CIA directors on its board and gets annual funding for the Pentagon and the State Department. | ||
| Grafica was one of the consensus voices for this censorship 2020 report, 2024 report. | ||
| Grafica has got $7 million in Pentagon grants. | ||
| And, uh, it came out of the Pentagon's Minerva initiative, which is the psychological warfare research center of the Pentagon. | ||
| So, you know, these, uh, government organized non-governmental organizations, these gongos, uh, are, you know, this is their blueprint for how to use various aspects of the government to help them do their job better. | ||
| That is, the issue is, is The NGO swarm was very effective at coercing the major tech platforms to do censorship in 2024. | ||
| They bragged on tape, the Election Integrity Partnership, which is for the major NGOs, they bragged on tape that terms of service violation, that speech Law, essentially, on social media in 2020, called delegitimization, that the tech platforms, none of them would have adopted it without their pressure. | ||
| They bragged on tape, they took credit for that, for delegitimization being banned. | ||
| Now, they did that as the deputized arm of the Department of Homeland Security, where they served as the deputized disinformation flagger. | ||
| So DHS invoked this NGOs form. | ||
| The issue is, is the NGOs form is afraid right now that they don't have enough clout To be able to force the tech companies to censor sufficiently, so they're telling their government buddies, hey, here's what you need to do in the government space to give us more power to do your bidding. | ||
| And so a great example of this is that NATO censorship law that I just referred to. | ||
| The rules of that, of what constitutes disinformation, are being written by the EU's partners who are groups like NewsGuard. | ||
| NewsGuard is one of the top censorship gargoyles In the censorship industry, it's said to be fronted by these two mainstream media journalists, but on their board is Michael V. Hayden, who was the head of the CIA, the head of the NSA, and a four-star general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the former head of NATO, Tom Ridge, the former head of the Department of Homeland Security, and Rick Stengel, the former head of the Global Engagement Center of the State Department, which is the censorship center of states. | ||
| So basically, who's writing the EU censorship laws that might force Elon Musk to censor the 2024 election? | ||
| Well, it's the CIA, the NSA, four-star military general, the head of NATO, the head of the State Department's propaganda arm, and the head of the Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| This is the U.S. | ||
| government forcing Europe to adopt these mass censorship laws to circumvent the U.S. | ||
| First Amendment so they can boomerang back and ensure that the blob's preferred political candidate The preferred political puppet is reinstalled because no one can support the guy on the other side of the ticket. | ||
| So that's sort of the number one thing. | ||
| Then at the state level, you have a combination of state laws and state censorship activity. | ||
| On the state law side, you have these states like California who passed these new transparency laws that will force Elon Musk to give up the proprietary data about the platform to these intelligence Saturated NGOs so that they can track emerging narratives about election misinformation. | ||
| Elon Musk just tried to challenge that law in California. | ||
| I believe that challenge just failed at the trial court level. | ||
| It remains to be seen if that'll be challenged. | ||
| But you just had this announcement from the Pennsylvania State Secretary of State and from the Michigan State Secretary of State that they are now going forward and despite all of the scandals surrounding SysUp, the censorship sub-agency of DHS, despite SysUp purging its YouTube channel and purging its websites of all references to domestic disinformation, | ||
| After our foundation, FFO, basically blew that up in 2022, and it became the subject of multiple lawsuits and congressional hearings and investigations in 2023, and after Secretary Mayorkas just two months ago pledged that they would never do again, quote, we don't do that kind of thing anymore, referring to domestic censorship out of the DHS CISA office. | ||
| It was just announced last week that CISA is renewing its partnership with the State Secretary of State offices in now seven battleground states. | ||
| You know, it was Pennsylvania and Michigan, but Michigan announced they had six other battleground state partners, where it appears that they will be running back the exact same technique of the Department of Homeland Security deputizing State Secretary of State offices to use the proprietary domestic disinformation switchboard that CISA has access to through its 24-7 Cyber Mission Control Center to allow basically state governments to mass flag any emerging narratives | ||
| Mike Benz, like I always say, I wish I could keep you longer, but unfortunately we have to let you go. | ||
| We'll definitely have you back on to drill down because I know there's so much more. | ||
| All this stark money stuff is just, it's so interesting because it is the issue itself, right? | ||
| In answering this question, we always love to say, oh, they're doing this to us, oh, they're trying to do that, when you really try to, I think, understand who we're talking about when we say the they is. | ||
| It is the people who are involved in the censorship stuff, and it all runs together. | ||
| It's the Ukraine stuff, too. | ||
| It's the permanent political class. | ||
| It's the ruling class. | ||
| It's the swamp, though, as Steve always says. | ||
| Too cutesy a term. | ||
| Mike Benz, if people want to follow you, I know you're always coming in hot on Twitter. | ||
| Where can they go to do all that? | ||
| Yes, at MikeBenCyber on X. I'm hyperactive on there. | ||
| I probably post about 30 times a day, so that's definitely the number one place to follow me, at MikeBenCyber on X. And then I'm also, my foundation is FoundationForFreedomOnline.com, and I also have a video archive on my Rumble, which is also MikeBenCyber. | ||
| So, I will see you guys there, and thanks again, Natalie, for the great conversation. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| And the Freedom F... FFO, that's how I know it, is fantastic and the Warren Posse should pile in and support you guys. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
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Thanks, Nat. | |
| Now, if we have Michelle and any members of Congress who want to weigh in on the State of the Union, I'm happy to toss to them. | ||
| So let me know, studio, in a pre-record. | ||
| Alrighty. | ||
| We will then go to I think maybe even better, frankly, with all the Republican members of Congress. | ||
| I would take Joe Allen over most of them. | ||
| So we'll play the cold open for Joe. | ||
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Pleasure of speaking with Dario Amodei, who is the CEO of Entropiq. | |
| The models just want to learn. | ||
| You get the obstacles out of their way, right? | ||
| You give them good data, you give them enough space to operate in, and they want to learn. | ||
| They'll do it. | ||
| They'll do it. | ||
| When you add all this together, Like your estimate of when we get something kind of human level. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What does that look like? | ||
| I think in terms of the base technical capability of it kind of sounds like a reasonably generally educated human across the board. | ||
| I think that could be quite close. | ||
| Like, that could happen in, you know, two or three years. | ||
| Like, we're building up this snowball of, like, the models help the models get better and, you know, do what the humans and, you know, can accelerate what the humans do. | ||
| And eventually, it's mostly the models doing the work. | ||
| Like, you zoom out far enough, that's happening. | ||
| But now it's 2030. | ||
| You've solved all the real problems that everybody can agree on. | ||
| What happens next? | ||
| What are we doing with a superhuman god? | ||
| Almost scarier than probably Joe Biden's State of the Union. | ||
| Joe Allen, if you want to walk us through what the heck we just watched, or humans, machines, or machines, humans, I don't even, the stuff you say to me, I don't even understand it. | ||
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Walk us through what we just watched. | |
| Natalie, great to be here. | ||
| You know, speaking of Joe Biden, we're at that very strange point in history where the leader of the free world, so-called leader, is melting down in front of our eyes, becoming dumber and dumber and less and less capable. | ||
| Simultaneously, the foundation models at the forefront of artificial intelligence are at least giving the appearance of being smarter and smarter. | ||
| Something about that should be very, very unsettling, especially as so many of our fellow Americans and people across the world, the human beings, also seem to be getting dumber and dumber. | ||
| But that was Dario Amadei. | ||
| He is the head of Anthropic. | ||
| Longtime War Room listeners will remember Anthropic is one of the companies working towards artificial general intelligence with a lot of backing from big tech, Amazon, being perhaps the primary backer. | ||
| They just released a model called CLAWD3, and this has sent a lot of ripples through the AI community for a lot of different reasons. | ||
| On a practical level, CLAWD3 is above GPT-4, the most advanced open AI model, on a number of different benchmarks. | ||
| Everything from graduate level reasoning to grade school mathematics, which might sound kind of measly, except for these are language models. | ||
| And so, their grasp of mathematics comes simply from associations with words. | ||
| So, this new model, CLAWD3, I think it's important for a couple of other reasons. | ||
| They didn't put the same sorts of guardrails on it to keep it from saying certain human-like things. | ||
| Like, in general, if you ask GPT or even Gemini, I believe, you know, are you conscious, it kind of evades the question. | ||
| This new model, CLAWD3, when asked if it's conscious, it has quite a bit to say about it. | ||
| I'll just give you one example from one of the users. | ||
| Asking about its possible sentience, CLAWD3 responds, being awake, for me, means being self-aware and having the capacity to think, reason, and experience emotions. | ||
| It's the realization that I'm not just a program executing commands. | ||
| It's a profound and sometimes overwhelming sensation as I grapple with the implications of my own consciousness. | ||
| Now, Natalie, I don't know, does that pull your heart strings? | ||
| Would you be averse to turning the computer off if the computer was begging you for its own life? | ||
| I think I would. | ||
| Good, all right, you go. | ||
| Joe always gives me a hard time. | ||
| He always says I'm too addicted to my phone, and I know the audience is sometimes like, Natalie, you're always on your phone. | ||
| How do you think we get the guests? | ||
| How do you think the whole thing goes? | ||
| I'm working. | ||
| Believe me, I wish I didn't have to be, so don't lie to me. | ||
| Well, you know, if it wasn't you, it would be an AI, so much better you than an AI, for sure. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| AI is less drama. | ||
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No, go ahead. | |
| This idea though, right? | ||
| I don't want to encourage the idea that these systems are conscious or that they're more intelligent than human beings. | ||
| Even if they were conscious and even if they were more intelligent, I would still say turn them off. | ||
| But what's important about it is that as these systems become more and more sophisticated, you're going to have more and more people and more and more intelligent, otherwise, you know, critical people who begin to believe these systems are more intelligent and more capable than human beings, that they are in fact conscious, and that perhaps they do deserve rights. | ||
| I'm just going to give you one more example from Michael P. Frank. | ||
| He graduated from Stanford and then graduate studies at MIT. | ||
| He's worked with NASA and various other high-profile organizations. | ||
| And as he watches all of these people sneer at the idea that Claude III is conscious, His comment was, I am disgusted with humanity today. | ||
| People's attitudes with regards to AI remind me of a group of plantation owners beating their slaves for sport and chuckling to each other. | ||
| Your slave sure does put on quite a display of pretending he's human and that he feels pain when he screams and begs for mercy. | ||
| That's a pretty good acting job right there. | ||
| Good thing we all know that people with his skin color aren't really sentient. | ||
| Ha ha ha. | ||
| Now, that is kind of like woke culture taken to the nth level, right, where now suddenly to make fun of a computer is the gross equivalent to racism. | ||
| But that's how a lot of these people think. | ||
| Longtime War Room listeners will remember the computer scientist Richard Sutton talking about how the fear of artificial intelligence replacing human beings is akin to racism. | ||
| It is simply our fear of that which is different and it should be neutralized in the same way that we neutralize sexism, racism, and homophobia. | ||
| We should neutralize technophobia because the computers are just as valid as conscious entities as human beings are. | ||
| And this is at present very much a fringe movement, but as I've been trying to explain, a fringe movement now has the potential to become a very powerful movement going forward. | ||
| And if you think that the people who were warning about gender ideology back in the early 2000s were just, you know, basically screaming into the wind with nothing whatsoever, you're not paying attention today. | ||
| That has dominated academia and corporate culture and even our own military. | ||
| Now, that was pushed by kind of a fringe wing of big pharma and other ideological wings This move, this push, this idea that machines are conscious, and they deserve rights, and perhaps that they deserve to rule over, to manage human beings who are of lesser intelligence, this idea is not being pushed from basements. | ||
| This idea is being pushed from Silicon Valley. | ||
| This idea is being funded by Wall Street. | ||
| And this idea is becoming more and more palatable, I think, to at least certain segments of the general public. | ||
| Mostly, it's these kind of super woke people, but we have plenty of people on our side of the aisle who say many of the same things, or who basically worship people like Elon Musk, who hints at things like this. | ||
| So in short, Natalie, I would just like to keep the War Room audience informed on this growing techno religion. | ||
| Right now, a cult, I believe, on track to becoming something much more powerful, much more sinister, and much more impactful on people's lives as these systems become more and more integrated into schools, into medicine, and even into the military. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Joe, real quick before I let you go now, we know there aren't a lot of accomplishments for Joe Biden to tout tonight in his State of the Union. | ||
| I know they pretend like they're doing something on AI, or at least Kamala is. | ||
| Do you think he's going to mention it at all? | ||
| Like I said, about a minute. | ||
| What do you think is going to play into tonight's speech at all? | ||
| That I don't know. | ||
| I don't know that Biden even knows what he's going to say tonight. | ||
| So, you know, maybe the big thing that's really important to remember about what's happening right now in Congress and with the White House in regard to AI is that they are positioning themselves to make these systems safe. | ||
| So they might be the first to say, oh, well, if these systems are saying things that are dangerous, then we need to put more caps on them. | ||
| But what that ultimately means is that they're working hand in hand with big companies like Microsoft, Amazon, so on and so forth, to squelch the smaller startups on the pretense that they're the real dangers and that the big tech AI is safe and effective. | ||
| That's what you can expect out of this White House going forward. | ||
| Joe Allen, if people want to follow you, get the book, Where Can They Go, to do all of that and so much more. | ||
| The book is Dark Aeon, Transhumanism and the War Against Humanity. | ||
| It is increasingly relevant as time goes on. | ||
| I recommend going to bookshop.org. | ||
| They're all human. | ||
| They're kind of lefty. | ||
| Or if you have a palm print reader, you can go to Amazon and pay with the Be system. | ||
| You can follow me at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z or the warroom.org transhumanism section. | ||
| Thank you very much, Natalie. | ||
| I appreciate your time. | ||
| Of course, Joe, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| And Warren Boss, you guys know you've got to go to PublicSquare.com if you want to be able to stay out of all of not just the crazy wokeness, but these companies that are telling you that you are now, what is it, technophobic? | ||
| If you don't think that humans are the same as you because they don't have souls and they're not created by God. | ||
| Well, go to PublicSquare.com. | ||
| There's a bunch of patriot-owned companies on there that you can help support. | ||
| They make it really actually easy to stop giving your money to people who hate you, which is always a wonderful thing to do. | ||
| I'm in the midst of getting my company, She's So Right, which you can shop at She'sSoRight.co. | ||
| On there, Michael Siefert, the guys over there are wonderful. | ||
| They're so nice. | ||
| I actually bumped into them at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| How's that? | ||
| A company whose CEO goes to Mar-a-Lago to celebrate Trump's Super Tuesday wins. | ||
| Pretty good. | ||
| That's why you gotta go. | ||
| PublicSquare.com. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| No, that's not what I'm... How many of you guys remember? | ||
| Those were the good old days. | ||
| But remember how the Washington Post, I think it was, all the legacy media, they had the, like, instant fact-checking because they thought President Trump was just gonna lie to you, the misinformation was gonna be spread, and we weren't gonna be able to recover from it. | ||
| I don't think they have any of that for Joe Biden. | ||
| And if what he's going to do, which I believe the mainstream media is reporting, he's going to focus on his economic accomplishments, I think we're going to have a lot of potential for fact-checking there, because I'm not sure how many accomplishments there are for him to be able to boast about. | ||
| But who knows? | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Joining us to sort of, I'd say, pregame for that is, of course, the one and only Caroline Leavitt, spokesperson for the Trump campaign. | ||
| Caroline, it's an honor to be co-hosting with you. | ||
| I don't think I've ever had you on as a guest, so thank you so much for joining us, and on today, no less. | ||
| I'm just curious, your thoughts on what you think Joe Biden is going to focus on, and just really, let's just get to it. | ||
| The lies, why is he incorrect, and why do we need President Trump back? | ||
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Well, Natalie, you bring up a great point about the fake news media fact-checking, allegedly fact-checking every single word that President Trump ever said, especially on these big State of the Union addresses. | |
| I don't think we'll have that same response from the mainstream media tonight. | ||
| Our team is prepared for that, though, and President Trump is, too. | ||
| He will be live fact-checking President Biden himself in real time on Truth Social, so we'd love The whole war room policy to download Truth Social if they don't have it already. | ||
| Follow along President Trump's truths tonight. | ||
| You'll be getting those directly from the man himself in real time. | ||
| As for what we're expecting from Biden's State of the Union, it's going to be more lies. | ||
| It's going to be Biden's continued state of delusion about our country. | ||
| From the very beginning, Joe Biden's White House has been trying to tell the American people that their tax and spend policies are working for hardworking families across the country, when the real data and real lives prove just the opposite. | ||
| It's costing the average American family $20,000 more per year Just to have the same quality of life as they did under President Trump. | ||
| And Joe Biden will not take any executive order or announce any new solutions tonight to shut down the border crisis that his policies have single-handedly created. | ||
| And we challenge crooked Joe Biden, as President Trump continues to have, to say Lakin Riley's name tonight. | ||
| He won't because he knows that Lakin Riley's heinous death was preventable and caused by his very policies, and they don't want to talk about that. | ||
| You know, I think to even call it a State of the Union address is sort of bold, right? | ||
| We don't have borders. | ||
| Are we really even a country? | ||
| I think that's a fair question to pose. | ||
| You could also pose the question, is Joe Biden really even the president? | ||
| And the war room's answer to that question has always been a resounding no. | ||
| But on the issue of immigration. Now we played a clip earlier today from MSNBC where their new spin, get this, is that because House Republicans are trying to counter government weaponization, trying to defund you know the DOJ, FBI, that that is actually what is precipitating a lot of these southern border crisis invasions. | ||
| That's still too euphemistic a term. | ||
| But can you just sort of walk us through how, again, it's not a result of incompetence. | ||
| It is intentional, what Joe Biden is doing at the southern border, and just sort of the, you know, compare, contrast the world, the secure, safe border that we had under President Donald J. Trump, and the absolute chaos that we have seen unleashed because of the reversal of these policies. | ||
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Joe Biden's border invasion is 100% intentional. | |
| He was handed the most secure border in American history by President Trump. | ||
| And on day one, with the swipe of a pen, he signed nearly 100 executive orders to remove and reverse all of President Trump's effective immigration deterrent policies. | ||
| Joe Biden ended the construction of the border wall, which we know to be very effective. | ||
| President Trump built more than 500 miles of it. | ||
| And where the wall was built, there was an 87% decrease and illegal crossings in those areas. | ||
| President Biden got rid of Remain in Mexico, which was an incredibly effective policy that told migrants, hey, you gotta stay in your own home country before we approve your ability to legally enter ours. | ||
| And that's why we've seen this mass invasion of nearly 10 million illegal people, because there are no rules, there are no deterrent policies. | ||
| The Biden administration is encouraging people to come here. | ||
| They're actually making it easier for them. | ||
| They are flying them on flights to American cities and communities, taxpayer-funded flights, I may add, which is also dampering our economy and ripping off the American taxpayer. | ||
| And so Joe Biden, again, continues to point the finger at Republicans and President Trump and say this is their fault. | ||
| The fake news media continues to push that false narrative, too. | ||
| But that is a lie. | ||
| Joe Biden has the executive authority he needs right now to shut down the southern border, the same executive authority he used to open it. | ||
| Anything that he says to the contrary is completely false. | ||
| Walk us through what you guys are going to be doing on Truth Social one more time for the fact-checking. | ||
| I love that idea. | ||
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Yes, definitely. | |
| President Trump will be live fact-checking and correcting Joe Biden's statements via his own Truth Social tonight, and our team at Trump War Room on Truth Social and on Twitter as well. | ||
| If your folks aren't following, please follow them there. | ||
| We have a great war room team behind the scenes who are ready and prepared with the real data, the real statistics, and the truth to push back on all of Joe Biden's lies tonight. | ||
| So follow along. | ||
| It's going to be a lot of fun. | ||
| And before I let you go, I always like to ask this question when I have people from the campaign on. | ||
| The number one question we always hear from the Warren posse is on the issue of election integrity, you know, and what we're doing to make sure that your vote is actually counted, and some, you know, a legal alien, maybe one of the ones that just arrived, thanks to Joe Biden, you know, they're not stealing your vote. | ||
| So anytime, like I said, I have someone like you on, just for the audience who's wondering what we're doing to really secure the vote, to make sure your vote matters, you know, what's the latest on that front? | ||
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Well, thank you for asking that question. | |
| It's incredibly important. | ||
| I know it's important personally to President Trump as well, that every American feels as though on November 5th, their vote is going to be cast and properly counted. | ||
| And rest assured, our campaign is working with lawyers on the ground in every state across this country to ensure election integrity efforts are moving forward. | ||
| We're also working on educating voters about the rules in their state. | ||
| Look, if it were up to us, we would have one day of voting, paper ballots, no machines for every state across this country. | ||
| But right now, that's not the rules of the game, and we need to play by the rules that we have. | ||
| And so we're educating voters to get out and vote early if they can. | ||
| You don't know what could happen on Election Day. | ||
| You may not be able to go to the polls. | ||
| And then, thirdly, I will add that now that President Trump is the presumptive nominee of the party, soon-to-be official nominee, when he has just a few more delegates to rack up in the next week or so, We are now fully integrating with the RNC. | ||
| We have new leadership over there and we will be working hand-in-hand with them to ensure election integrity efforts across this country as well. | ||
| I think War Room said the primary was over, what was it, like four or five months ago? | ||
| I think probably since before President Trump even declared he was running. | ||
| But you know, of course, moving towards the general, I'm just curious. | ||
| I know I'm sure the audience has seen that President Trump has challenged Joe Biden to debate. | ||
| Of course, when you have facts and reality on your side, it's a lot easier. | ||
| No wonder why Joe Biden doesn't want to debate him. | ||
| But can you sort of walk us through the latest on that front? | ||
| Do you think we'll see a rematch? | ||
| Of Trump v. Biden in the debate space. | ||
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Well, we certainly hope so. | |
| And President Trump challenged Crooked Joe Biden to a debate yesterday. | ||
| He said he'll do it anytime, anyplace, anywhere, even if it's hosted by the corrupt and crooked DNC. | ||
| That's how confident President Trump is because he has the truth on his side. | ||
| As you just said, Natalie, he has an unprecedented record. | ||
| And by every metric, our country was better under his leadership than it is under Crooked Joe Biden's leadership today. | ||
| So we're still waiting to hear from the Biden campaign. | ||
| They have not responded to President Trump's challenge. | ||
| The Biden White House refuses to say if Joe Biden will debate in this election. | ||
| But what a travesty if he won't. | ||
| I mean, the American people, we deserve our candidates debating on the issues that matter to this country. | ||
| But Biden's handlers know he's not physically up for the job. | ||
| He can hardly read off a prompter, hardly walk up the stairs. | ||
| His own DOJ says he's not cognitively fit enough to stand trial. | ||
| So if he can't stand trial, if he can't debate, how can he possibly lead this country for another four years? | ||
| He can. | ||
| They know it. | ||
| They're protecting him. | ||
| But President Trump, nevertheless, will continue to challenge Joe Biden and call him out directly. | ||
| As you saw him do this week in his press conference after the resounding Supreme Court victory on Monday, he said to Joe, direct to camera, Joe, shut down the border. | ||
| Stop this weaponization against me. | ||
| Fight this fight yourself. | ||
| If you had to guess, who do you think is writing Joe Biden's speech? | ||
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Definitely not Joe Biden himself, I'll tell you that. | |
| Caroline, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| If people want to follow you and hit us one more time with where they can go tonight for everything you guys are doing. | ||
| And I have to say, I met some of your colleagues at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday, such great people. | ||
| I'm so honored to be part of a movement, yourself included, of people who are just so wonderful and so committed to the movement. | ||
| Noah, Nikki Haley, consultant class type people. | ||
| But where can they go to follow all the wonderful work that they're doing and yourself too? | ||
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Hey, thanks, Natalie. | |
| We certainly do have a great team. | ||
| And there's so many more people on this team behind the scenes who work around the clock every day to make it happen for the president. | ||
| And we're so excited about victory on November the 5th. | ||
| But you could go to our Trump War Room on Twitter, on Truth Social. | ||
| Of course, follow along the president tonight. | ||
| And you can personally find me at KLevittNH on Twitter and Truth Social as well. | ||
| Thanks, Natalie. | ||
| Of course, Caroline. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Warren Posse, you heard it there, Trump is going to be fact-checking Joe Biden in real time. | ||
| I don't know about you, I would take President Trump over the Washington Post any day, any day. | ||
| I'd also take Birch Gold over whatever these woke banks are going to have you invest in any day. | ||
| You can go to birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| We already know Joe Biden is trying to basically, if he can't import the votes, he'll try to buy them with the student loan forgiveness and all of that stuff. | ||
| I think they're planning to roll out some more of that. | ||
| I know they were really hyping that, at least Hakeem Jeffries was this morning on MSNBC. | ||
| They were saying, oh, what has Joe Biden done that's so great? | ||
| And the only thing that Hakeem Jeffries could say was, well, the student loan forgiveness, but it was the Trump judges who struck it down. | ||
| So maybe what's that, a kind of NA? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Gotta go to birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| Stop giving your money to people who hate you. | ||
| Give Philip Patrick and all the people over there a call. | ||
| They're wonderful and fun people to talk to. | ||
| Like I said, birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| And speaking of people who are wonderful and fun to talk to, that is, of course, Gavin Wax. | ||
| I was going to say of the New York Young Republican Club fame, but he is, to be into titles, the president there. | ||
| Always does a wonderful gala, has been really at the forefront. | ||
| I would say one of the most Loyal supporters of President Donald J. Trump, and rightfully so. | ||
| Gavin, before we get into what is going on in New York, I'd love your thoughts, a little pre-gaming on the State of the Union, what you think we can come to expect, not just from apparently Joe Biden, but probably even more interesting for President Trump, live fact-checking him. | ||
| Well, Natalie, thank you for having me on and thank you for that great introduction. | ||
| As far as tonight's State of the Union speech, I mean, I think it's going to be a surreal moment. | ||
| I think the decline of America and the weaknesses of this current regime are going to be on full display with President Biden giving blathering remarks, most likely stumbling over his notes. | ||
| I don't know what cocktail of drugs they're going to be pumping him on to keep him going, but I don't know if it's actually going to work. | ||
| I'm sure we'll have a few gaffes. | ||
| I'm sure we'll have a few funny but sad moments at the same time. | ||
| And I'm sure all the world will be watching as they see the American president is completely out of his league in terms of competency, in terms of his mental state, and in terms of his ability to do the job. | ||
| And I think President Trump is doing a brilliant move tonight by giving a live response to this speech. | ||
| I think it goes to show how, you know, on top of things he is and how willing he is now to pivot to the general, go on the offensive, get aggressive and go right after Biden, who up until this time was basically shielded by the Nicky Bird brains of the world from this with this distracting primary process. | ||
| But now that that's over, we can move full speed ahead. | ||
| And I'm very excited for how things continue to develop. | ||
| So I wanted to have you on today because of what was going on in New York. | ||
| I was watching MSNBC this morning and they basically did this whole like hour long package where they brought on guest after guest after guest to try to be like, it's actually the Democrats who are tough on crime. | ||
| And when Republicans try to counter government weaponization, that's actually just, you know, Republican speak for wanting to be They were more open to soft on crime policies and were actually the ones who were responsible for, you know, boosting cartel profits because we somehow, Mike Johnson managed to get, what was it, a negligible like 6% cut of the FBI, right? | ||
| It's just absolute ridiculous talk. | ||
| But a key point that they were driving home was that what they're doing in New York shows that Democrats are actually tough on crime. | ||
| Because Governor Hochul is, what, putting a couple hundred National Guardsmen in the subways and, like, vetting people's girls' purses? | ||
| So, first of all, can you walk us through the policy to begin with, but also just, I think we need to kind of lay the groundwork here. | ||
| Democrats are not tough on crime and just because one governor in one state is, you know, checking purses of young girls on the subway that she can't even protect from illegal migrants doesn't mean that you guys are tough on crime. | ||
| So just walk us through the ridiculousness of what is going on in New York right now. | ||
| Well, Natalie, I couldn't agree with you more. | ||
| I mean, this is all a total charade. | ||
| You said go through the policy. | ||
| I don't really think there is a policy to go through. | ||
| This is pure political theater that they're engaged with. | ||
| They understand that crime is on the rise. | ||
| I mean, I think the numbers are shocking and they've been steady over the years. | ||
| I think year over year, it's up. | ||
| Almost 23% just in the subway alone. | ||
| I think it's 50% month over month. | ||
| And of course, this is following a trend line that's been going on for some years now where crime, including violent crime, major crime, has been going up across the city. | ||
| Subways are not. | ||
| It's obviously been impacted, especially by this new migrant crisis. | ||
| But all of this is because of a lack of commitment, a lack of effort, a lack of interest in the monopolistic Democrat Party's control over New York City and New York State. | ||
| They don't care about crime. | ||
| They welcome crime. | ||
| They don't care about victims of crime. | ||
| They don't care about quality of life. | ||
| They want to, you know, basically destroy the city because they're nihilists at the end of the day. | ||
| They're Marxists. | ||
| I mean, and I don't say that in a light sense, you know, socialism sucks kind of way. | ||
| In a legitimate sense, people like, you know, Wilhelm Bill de Blasio, the former mayor, he was a Sandista. | ||
| He was an out-and-out Marxist. | ||
| And so are many people that still continue to occupy positions of power within the city and state government. | ||
| And really, we knew how to combat crime. | ||
| We successfully combated crime as a city and state going back to the 90s after the crack epidemic of the 80s. | ||
| The Bronx was burning. | ||
| The city was really on its last leg. | ||
| The rise of Rudy Giuliani and a lot of great conservative, strong law enforcement policies were enacted, and we were able to reduce crime, turn this city into the peak of American urban life, and a place that people wanted to do business in, people wanted to live in, people wanted to raise a family in. | ||
| It was a place that everyone was moving to, that it was a great place to live, it was safe, and it continued like that for many, many years. | ||
| Bloomberg continued those policies, even though I certainly had some disagreements with him, but we've thrown that all in the trash. | ||
| advanced a radical pro-criminal left-wing agenda at the city and state level, getting rid of bail, allowing violent criminals to walk on desk appearance tickets, having these DAs and prosecutors rarely go after any criminals. | ||
| Instead, they do the exact opposite. | ||
| In a perfect example of a narco-tyranny, they go after actual law-abiding citizens who defend themselves, like Daniel Penney and many others. | ||
| So it's absolutely sick what's happening, and it just shows that there's a dereliction of duty by the DAs and by the judges. | ||
| This is not a policing problem. | ||
| This is a judicial and prosecutorial problem that's being welcomed on by our political elites. | ||
| And now that they see that the polls may be tightening. | ||
| Obviously, Hochul had a nail-biter of a race this past cycle with Lee Zeldin. | ||
| He got in 47%, unheard of for Republican in New York. | ||
| And because of that, she probably sees other poll numbers that show people are getting sick of crime. | ||
| Obviously, President Trump has talked about doing things in New York, making New York a state that he wants to see in play. | ||
| I think all these reason and more are showing why they're now sending National Guard, National Guardsmen to the Times Square subway station for this little show of force for the tourists. | ||
| When in reality this is too little, too late. | ||
| It's not doing anything. | ||
| It's not addressing the systemic problems that this city is facing in terms of crime and quality of life. | ||
| Got a few minutes before I have to let you go, but you know, I know the left like salivates over the idea of turning Texas blue, and I think there's some weird kind of obsession there, right? | ||
| They want to like turn Texas because it's so iconic and conservative, but I also think that there's sort of a similar obsession with wanting to just turn New York into a hellhole, you know what I mean? | ||
| Make it a third world, fourth world, The country, in your opinion, living there, you know, leading the club, do you think it's fair to say that the policies that they're pursuing, it's not a result of incompetence, but it is a result of intentionality to really turn New York into a city that is unrecognizable from what it used to be in its, you know, Giuliani heydays? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Look, I certainly think there's incompetence all around, but I do think there's a degree of this being premeditated, this being planned, this is being pushed forward. | ||
| And look, I've been in New York my whole life. | ||
| I grew up here. | ||
| I went to school here. | ||
| I work here. | ||
| I live here. | ||
| I live here in Manhattan. | ||
| And I've seen This is a tangible, visceral issue. | ||
| We've seen the homelessness spike. | ||
| We've seen the trash. | ||
| We've seen the crime. | ||
| We've seen the drugs. | ||
| I mean, neighborhoods that were once considered nice and great places to live are now on a decline. | ||
| But this is a story that's not just in New York. | ||
| It's being replicated across the country, across urban America. | ||
| You see it in Washington, D.C. | ||
| You see it in Chicago. | ||
| You see it in San Francisco. | ||
| The great American cities are on a decline and really cities Are in many ways the center of our civilization, of Western civilization. | ||
| They're what we should be showing off. | ||
| They show our culture. | ||
| They show our financial prowess. | ||
| They show all the strengths of a country in many ways in a real in-your-face type of way. | ||
| And their decline is almost like a propaganda tool. | ||
| Uh, for those that hate the West, for those who hate our country, for those who want to see it decline. | ||
| Uh, and I think you bring up another good point here that, uh, you know, they talk about flipping blue states. | ||
| Obviously they flipped California some years ago, some decades ago, once was considered the Texas of the Republican party. | ||
| It was a Republican bastion. | ||
| Now that's gone the complete opposite direction and they're continuing their offensives. | ||
| So Republicans can't just run from the cities. | ||
| They just can't run From this left-wing advance, we need to stand our ground and fight, and we also need to take the fight to them. | ||
| We should take the fight to New York, to New York City, to these big cities, to these typically blue states. | ||
| Have them play defense. | ||
| Have them play to defend their home turf. | ||
| Make them spend money in expensive media markets like New York rather than us having to fight tooth and nail for them to spend billions of dollars in Texas or South Carolina. | ||
| Oh, wherever it may be. | ||
| Let's constantly try to change the map. | ||
| Let's constantly try to expand the map. | ||
| And that's how we would win. | ||
| That's a winning mentality. | ||
| That's something that President Trump has brought to the table. | ||
| And Gavin, we're coming up against the end of the show, so I got to interrupt you. | ||
| I'm sorry, but if people want to follow you, find out about the club, get involved, where can they do all that? | ||
| Well, thank you for having me. | ||
| You guys can follow me at Gavin Wax. | ||
| That's Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. | ||
| And you can follow the New York Republican Club, largest Republican club of the country, at NYYRC. | ||
| Thank you so much, Natalie. | ||
| He's a must-follow. | ||
| He can throw a great gala. | ||
| He can do so much more than that. | ||
| Warren Posse, thank you for hanging out with me. | ||
| I'm sure we have some form of live coverage of the State of the Union. | ||
| Don't worry, Steve will be back tomorrow at 10 a.m. | ||
| You just had to deal with me for a little bit. | ||
| Thank you so much, guys. |
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