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Episode 3420: Covid 19 Senate Hearing: Speaking The Truth
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steve bannon
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edward dowd
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lara logan
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unidentified
Targeted over the last 10 years.
Can you describe what precipitated your targeting?
lara logan
Yes, I'm reporting the truth about Benghazi.
I was attacked by one of those NGOs that masquerades as a non-partisan watchdog in violation of its 5013C status.
It occupies a highly partisan position.
I'm talking about Media Matters for America.
I'm sure there's many doctors in this room, scientists who've been attacked by the same people.
The same people that run that, David Brock for example, another political assassin, now runs an organization called Facts First USA, which is designed to make sure that your research, Dr. Hasan, never reaches the people or the public.
There are other organizations like Defeat Disinfo, which claims to be a PAC that goes after disinformation, particularly set up to target COVID and throughout COVID with General Stanley McChrystal and the other people that advise that organization.
But what, you know, Senator Johnson, it's not a secret that these organizations exist.
What is not widely known and talked about is that it's paid for by us.
It's paid for by the taxpayers.
In your omnibus spending bills that get shoved through the House and the Senate against the will of the people of this country, there are cutouts for these NGOs.
And what they do is they launder this money, they pass it from one NGO to the next, and in the name of preventing the spread of disinformation, they censor, silence, intimidate, and punish.
I said that this is a death sentence for journalists.
It's how you murder a journalist without killing them.
It's how you murder a scientist without killing them.
It's how you murder a doctor without killing them.
It's how you murder the vaccine injured when they haven't died yet.
It's how you finish them off.
And everybody else in their family.
And it's time for people in this building who come to work every day here, to serve us.
This is the only country where we the people are the government.
This is a government for the people, of the people, and by the people.
And the same is said for so-called journalists.
Del Bricktree, this man, has been targeted for simply going to the FDA hearings and filming them when they approve vaccines.
Just filming them.
Not doing a thing.
And putting that, putting that out and showing people there is no real approval process.
They didn't actually do their jobs.
And for that, he's been targeted for years, long before COVID ever hit.
So it's time now for us to stop taking taxpayer funds to slit our own throats.
unidentified
This is a comparison of the myocarditis diagnosis rates following the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines given during the pandemic.
It shows the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis diagnoses within 7 days of receiving either the first or second dose of the Moderna vaccine.
The second graphic on the slide shows the incidence of myocarditis within 30 days of receiving the second Pfizer vaccine in the general population as well as for 16 to 19 year old boys compared to unvaccinated controls.
Myocarditis is a serious disorder and 76% of all cases following COVID vaccination as reported by VAERS requires emergency care and or hospitalization.
CDC significantly downplays myocarditis as a side effect of the vaccine.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon
It's Monday, 26 February in the Year of Our Lord 2024.
Thank you for joining our late afternoon, early evening edition of The War Room.
A historic event over Capitol Hill today.
Senator Ron Johnson, Wisconsin, had a, I don't know, four hour plus hearing with a who's who of folks that have led our country through this horrible, horrible pandemic and actually spoke truth to power.
Very honest, we're going to have three of the best Dr. Ryan Cole is going to join us.
We've got the great Ed Dowd is going to join us.
We're going to start with one of the best, Dr. Brian Hooker.
Now, Dr. Hooker, you're author of the book Vax and Vax.
I'm going to talk about your testimony today.
On the cover, you've got Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
You've got Ford by Dale Bigtree.
You've got Children's Health Defense.
It's clearly with Tony Lyon's team at Skyhorse Press.
I look inside.
We've got Dr. Peter Corey, Dr. Peter McCullough.
We've got Naomi Wolf, Dr. Judy Mickiewicz.
And on the back, a whole slew of a who's who, Dr. Paul Thomas, all of it.
This is like the starting team of what MSNBC would be the wingnuts, right?
This is the wingnuts.
So tell me why, it's not your book, but it's the research in your book.
What did you present today to the American people and why is it something that's had such a tough time getting traction?
I mean, you've got some heroes like You've got the Senator from Wisconsin, you've got MTG, you've got a few others but overall there's been a big pushback on Capitol Hill and the mainstream media.
Tell us what you testified to today and why there's a pushback.
unidentified
Well, I talked about vaccine injury.
I am the father of a 26-year-old vaccine-injured young man, and I've been studying vaccine adverse events and vaccine injury for the past 23 years.
And the book contains the study that the CDC won't do.
The CDC will not look at vaccinated versus unvaccinated children.
Why won't they do that?
steve bannon
I'm not a scientist, but wouldn't that be pretty standard research?
unidentified
Absolutely.
They can, but they won't because I think that in their heart of hearts they know what the outcome would be and independent researches have shown that for a large number of chronic diseases, even infectious diseases, the unvaccinated children fare better and the unvaccinated children are healthier.
The vaccinated children are sicker and we have a chronic disease epidemic in the United States right now.
We also have a bloated vaccination schedule with over 73 vaccines given in the first 18 years of life.
28 of those are given in the first year of life.
28 vaccines, 28 individual needle sticks.
steve bannon
I think President Trump falls in the camp because he's older than I am by seven years.
But when we think of it, people our age or in the 60s, they think of Dr. Jonas Salk, polio, the big fear in the 1950s.
You go to school and you get four or five vaccines before you go to public school.
And then you're saying today it's 73 vaccines and how many are given in the first year?
unidentified
28 vaccines are given in the first year of life, 1 vaccine in the first day of life, and upwards to 8 vaccine when an infant is just 2 months old.
steve bannon
Wouldn't you assume that that would be...
A lot?
I mean, should you have in your circulation as much as of what they're trying to put in a baby?
unidentified
No, you shouldn't.
If you look at the aluminum toxicity alone, it far surpasses the single-day toxicity limit for aluminum exposure in newborns.
And so, you know, what they're doing is really, really preposterous.
And by they, I mean specifically the CDC's recommendation.
steve bannon
And they have never really tested these vaccines together, given together, even though they are... There's no, are you telling me that on the 28 vaccines that you have to take collectively when you're a baby, there's been no study done about what is the, in totality, the response, the reaction of a baby having all 28?
unidentified
There is no study, no official study by the CDC, FDA, NIH, where they've looked at the 28 vaccines in totality, what the cumulative effect would be versus completely unvaccinated children.
They just refuse to do that study.
And honestly, independent researchers have done the study, and they've shown that unvaccinated children are much, much healthier when you look at developmental delays, when you look at asthma, when you look at ear infections, when you look at allergies, when you look at ADD, ADHD, autism, these children are faring better.
steve bannon
Do you agree that there are some minimum number of vaccines that kids should have before they go dumped into a public school system, where they're gonna be in classrooms from children just coming up from from God knows knows where from Central America, Latin America, whatever.
Is there some baseline that you guys do agree with?
Are you just saying no vaxxers at all?
unidentified
I believe that all of this should not be one size fits all medicine.
I believe that in certain circumstances, vaccines make perfect sense.
But the sheer number of vaccines that are being given to every kid, whether they're medically fragile or not, whether they have underlying conditions or not, It makes absolutely no sense.
steve bannon
Okay, Senator Johnson's hearing, and we had Lara Logan opening there, and others, we're going to have a couple of the most distinguished on today, hopefully tomorrow, if people are still around town.
I was able to dip in and out of the, over at CPAC you had the crisis conference at the same time with many of the same people.
Was it the pandemic and the COVID vaccine that all brought this up?
I know you guys have been laboring in the vineyard for years, but it was the COVID vaccine that brought this up to the highlight?
unidentified
It really did.
Before the COVID-19 pandemic, really, those of us that were that concerned about vaccine safety were considered to be on the fringes.
But more and more people started to question the government's motives, the foisting of a completely new genetic technology on the population, under-tested, untested, and so many, many more people are opting out of vaccination, even vaccination in general.
And many, many more people besides that are questioning the whole vaccine construct.
steve bannon
The Fauci and obviously how he misrepresented himself and of course the work of Bobby Kennedy and Dale Bigtree and others.
Dale Bigtree going to court many times and winning suits.
Do you feel that you're not on the fringes anymore?
Your methodology and what you've been saying really hasn't changed.
Is it because the public now sees this whole kind of public health scam for what it is?
unidentified
I believe that people are really starting to wake up and if you look at the compliance on the latest boosters it's you know it's down below ten percent so I think that More and more people are asking these questions.
More individuals that sort of, you know, if I could say woke up during the COVID-19 pandemic are looking at the rest of the vaccination schedule saying, hey, there's a lot of vaccines here.
And they're starting to ask really tough questions, which is what we want to do.
steve bannon
Exactly.
What was the point, if you could say it in a minute, what was the point, the central thesis, your theory, the case that you presented today to Senator Johnson's hearing?
unidentified
That the CDC, FDA, and NIH are derelict in their duty.
They have fallen down on their duty in order to protect children and adults against vaccine injury, in order to report to Congress the state of vaccine safety science, and their responsibility to the American public and to public health in order to protect the American public.
steve bannon
And you believe you can show that empirically?
unidentified
I do believe in it and that's one of the reasons why Mr. Kennedy and I wrote the book is we wanted to do these comparisons and really emphasize these are studies that the government refused to do.
steve bannon
I didn't highlight that enough, just not endorse.
You actually wrote this.
This was after the case against Anthony Fauci.
unidentified
That's correct.
It was one and a half million.
steve bannon
I think the Worms sold 750,000.
And it was about as accessible as a phone.
I mean, it was like the phone book.
It was not exactly.
It was only scintillating when he got into it.
What do you hope, next steps, we've got about a minute, next steps with Senator Johnson from your perspective, what do you want to see?
unidentified
I want to see us move from briefings to hearings and I also want to see legislation for all of the books.
All of the books to be open.
The CDC has what's called the Vaccine Safety Data Link.
It's closed to independent researchers.
All that needs to be opened up.
All the coffers, all the redacted emails from Tony Fauci and Francis Collins.
Everything needs to be shown.
steve bannon
Does Francis Collins know someone's up?
Is that why he retired?
He's the most powerful guy here in DC.
When we did the transition, people told us, you can't touch him.
He's bulletproof.
He retired because he didn't want to face the music here?
Is that why he left?
unidentified
I think that was a big reason why Francis Collins retired.
steve bannon
Do we have, and the CDC, FDA, and others, do you believe we've had regulatory capture by the biopharmaceutical industrial complex?
unidentified
Absolutely.
You look at the FDA, 50% of their revenues come from big pharma through what's called the Fast Track Program.
CDC buys and sells $5 billion worth of vaccines through the Vaccines for Children Program.
They buy them and then they distribute them to the public health departments of the states.
And so, yeah, agency capture, it's what follows from the financial entanglements with these agencies.
steve bannon
The emotional attachment you have to your child, that has not, because I've met many people who come into this because of that, you know, the vaccine injury, that has not clouded your judgment as far as your studies, your emotional?
unidentified
No, it is not.
You know, we let the science and the statistics speak for themselves.
Absolutely.
steve bannon
The receipts.
unidentified
It's a fabulous book.
steve bannon
Vax Unvax.
Kennedy and Hooker.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
The hardship we've endured, the gaslighting, the silencing is unconstitutional.
People say that there is nothing in the Constitution that accounts for a pandemic.
Oh, yes, there is.
It's called the Ninth Amendment.
And what does that Ninth Amendment say?
The enumeration of the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by whom?
The people.
This limits the ability of the national government to infringe on non-enumerated rights.
Your right to your body, your right to privacy.
I could give a one-hour talk.
I won't.
Senator Johnson was gracious to give me two minutes.
I've been censored.
I've been attacked by boards of medicine, by newspapers, nationally, internationally, locally, CEOs of local hospitals, etc.
For what?
For harming patients?
No.
Do I have any patient complaints against me for COVID treatment?
Absolutely not.
But I spoke something that somebody else didn't like.
I reserve the right to be right.
I reserve the right to be wrong.
But more than anything, I reserve the right to speak.
It is the foundational principle of this great nation.
And when we lose that, we lose a nation.
steve bannon
Wow, I want to thank the Epoch Times, just amazing right there, already got a produced testimony today.
I guess at another listening session, getting ready for a hearing, Dr. Ryan Cole, the Dr. Ryan Cole, joins Ed Dowd on deck.
You said, you thanked, you've been one of the biggest proponents in this movement, one of the people from the very beginning and risked everything.
You did say, hey, look, I can give an hour lecture on this, but because the number of people we have, I got two minutes.
In that two minutes, tell our audience, what is your main point?
What are you trying to get across here?
unidentified
Well, the science was shared, and I think so many people over the years have tuned in to many of us that have been sharing the facts about what's been going on.
And thankfully, millions upon millions, if not billions, have woken up now.
steve bannon
You've had the vaccine is 10% pickup now with all the advertising.
You cut MSNBC and CNN every night, every other segment, they get another vax ad in there.
unidentified
Yeah, which is probably 10% too many.
And I mean, the propaganda that it's an updated vaccine when the variant is extinct, it's not updated.
And so, the perpetual lies from the pharmaceutical industry.
There's avarice, there's greed, there's big money behind it.
I get that.
My point is free speech.
And at the end of it all, how do you sum this up?
Obviously, the censorship so many of us have experienced has been overwhelming.
But if I'm not wrong, I do believe that the First Amendment gives me the right to speak freely.
But it should also give me the right to be heard, not censored.
All of us.
We have information to share.
If I'm right, great.
If I'm wrong, great.
steve bannon
Don't they make the argument that public health, I don't agree with this, but what they did at the beginning is public health is so important that if you have a bunch of cranks that are trying to take their free speech rights and putting out bad information, hundreds of thousands or millions of people can die.
I mean, that's their counter argument.
unidentified
Well, yeah, that was their propagandistic lie, certainly.
steve bannon
Well, it turns out you had the benefit of being right.
unidentified
Indeed.
steve bannon
But in your being right, then why do you have a problem with them putting forward their propaganda, as you call it?
unidentified
Well, I think historically what matters is what Mao did, what Hitler did, what Stalin did, what Pol Pot did.
How do you take over society?
You start with public health.
So this is bigger than just an ineffective mRNA... Like Hitler started with the hygiene, you do that.
Exactly!
And it's not about an mRNA vaccine and a lipid nanoparticle, which you shouldn't get in your body, certainly.
But this is a bigger issue about freedom.
And the freedom to have the conversation and to respectfully disagree with each other.
And if public health is putting out information and we're putting out counter-information, the cream will always rise to the top when you actually have a conversation.
So if I'm right, I'm right.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
But don't suppress my opportunity to speak.
That is my First Amendment right.
steve bannon
And you don't think anything regarding public health overrides that First Amendment?
Your First Amendment right?
unidentified
Nope.
There's no exception in the Constitution of the United States for a reason.
steve bannon
Let's leave the regulatory capture in the industry aside.
All, not some, but all of the institutions that made you a doctor, and made everybody a doctor, right?
And made, you know, Ed Dowd, a great financial analyst, and I got my MBA at, and every institution, the most revered educational institutions in this country, to this day, I totally disagree with you and say you're a crank and in fact they disagree with you so much that most of them still have a requirement that their students be fully vaxxed.
What do you say to that?
unidentified
I say I have no financial interest in any of this.
I've lost my career.
I've lost my laboratory.
I've been attacked mercilessly around the world in the media.
And I'm still speaking, because the truth is the truth, no matter what.
And I have a moral and ethical duty to the patient.
I took an oath to the patient, not to those institutions.
steve bannon
But to get to the oath to the patient, you had to be trained.
unidentified
I did.
steve bannon
Okay, and my point is, the institutions that trained you guys, the thing is, The people that are doing the counter-argument, like yourself, if you load them all up, most of them by and large come from some of the finest medical institutions in this country.
And this is where they got their training.
Those institutions are telling them, the people they trained, you're wrong.
Right?
And you're not kind of wrong, you're dead wrong.
What do you say to that?
The people that trained you and taught you how to be a doctor?
unidentified
I say sit down with me any day, anywhere, anytime.
Have coffee, have lunch, bring the data.
On behalf of the patient, I have no ego in this game.
steve bannon
In hindsight, having lost everything, was it worth it?
unidentified
Darn right.
I'd do it all over again.
steve bannon
Why?
unidentified
Because truth matters above all else.
Veritas.
steve bannon
Do you think you're winning this fight now?
Do you see it when you see Johnson's or you see only 10% have taken the vaccine and even the schools that require it, kids are figuring out how to get fake IDs and the system itself Is Kremlin like the communist system that everybody's trying to game it to get away from doing the requirements?
Nobody wants to actually comply anymore?
dr ryan cole
Yeah, I think we have a silent majority, and that's where I would encourage others to open their mouths, set fear aside, speak out.
unidentified
You're with us.
You're obviously not complying with the game anymore.
Add your voice to our voices.
I do think we're winning.
steve bannon
And how do people do that?
unidentified
Well, again... There's a place to go with you.
Your website, your social media... Yeah, I mean, you can follow me at oraclemd.com on Twitter.
steve bannon
You still have your practice, right?
unidentified
I still technically have... I went from 80 employees down to 2.
steve bannon
Right.
They took away your business, but you still have... they haven't taken your license.
unidentified
No, they have not.
I've been restricted in Washington because of free speech.
No patient complaints.
Just administrators and newspapers and third parties.
steve bannon
Is that eastern Washington?
unidentified
No, eastern Washington is the good folks.
They're the ones we want to join Idaho.
Greater Idaho, indeed.
This is the People's Republic of Washington on the west side of the state.
steve bannon
Have you had personal threats?
unidentified
Oh, I've had death threats for years, on and off.
steve bannon
Because of this topic?
unidentified
Because of speaking the truth as far as I understand it, absolutely.
steve bannon
Where do people go, Dr. Ryan Cole?
unidentified
rcolemd.com and you can also follow me on Exit, D.R.
Cole and the number 12.
I'll have my own podcast started next week as well as my Substack.
steve bannon
The podcast and Substack are going to launch next week?
unidentified
They'll drop next week, yeah.
steve bannon
What's the podcast name?
unidentified
Just a Thinking Guy.
steve bannon
Just a Thinking Guy, I love it.
And the Substack, too.
unidentified
It'll be the same.
steve bannon
Okay, we'll work with our producer to launch it.
Just for this audience, If you had to do it all over again, and your business went from 80 employees down to 2, everything you went through, death threats, all of it, you would do it again?
unidentified
I sleep well at night, I would do it again.
steve bannon
You can look in the mirror and say, hey, I stood up when it required me to.
unidentified
100%.
steve bannon
You think history will show that you were right?
unidentified
I want history to show that we were all right.
steve bannon
Dr. Ryan Cole, hero and patriot.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to shift to Dr. Cole, and we're going to get Ed out here in a second.
A lot going on.
This is pretty historic today.
And here's what I found most interesting is that most of these folks, they had a conference over at CPAC on Friday and again on Sunday.
Most of them came to testify today to a person.
The folks there have heard this many, many, many times and have said this was riveting.
It was absolutely riveting.
Ed Dowd.
Ed Dowd got formally dressed.
Ed Dowd's back in Maui already.
Ed Dowd joins us.
I saw you in a suit there.
I didn't even recognize you.
I know.
You didn't have your jams on.
This is more the Ed Dowd.
This is why you've worked your entire life, become a huge financial analyst to be able to go to Hawaii so you can dress like this, right?
edward dowd
Yeah, I had to put the monkey suit on for the last couple days.
steve bannon
Yeah, I didn't recognize you at first.
edward dowd
Most people didn't.
steve bannon
No, I didn't.
edward dowd
They passed me.
steve bannon
Yeah, no, they came in and said, Dow's sitting over there.
We got him sliding next.
I said, where's that Dow?
That can't be him.
The last couple of days.
Give me your takeaway from this.
edward dowd
It's been a great couple days.
You know, the last three years have really coalesced a bunch of experts who have sacrificed a lot to bring the truth.
And the story is becoming More and more grim as we go on.
The things we're discovering, the things that went down, the evidence that's starting to come forth from all the different experts.
steve bannon
You've been a Wall Street guy.
You know how like a new business starts, a new industry, a new vertical, all of a sudden you start to get people clustered around there that are research people, experts.
Do you think that's what's happening here?
You've got a real coalescing around this issue and you see the quality of people, you see the quality of schools they went to, you see the quality of the research.
Is that happening here?
edward dowd
Yeah, absolutely happening.
The quality of the individuals I've met over the last two and a half years has been outstanding.
A lot of great minds, and we don't always agree, but we're always trying to get to the truth.
And there's no groupthink in what we do, but we tend to find similar answers and corroborate each other's work.
steve bannon
Since we're supposed to be the anarchy and drivers of chaos, what always disturbs me is institutions.
And the institutions, I can't figure out here.
I understand the biopharmaceutical industrial complex of what they're trying to accomplish with agency capture, all of that.
I cannot figure out The insurance companies.
You would think they would come forward and admit that something was up here and then there would be a reset about how they price it.
You would have price discovery in this process.
We got about 30 seconds.
Am I wrong here in saying something's weird about this of other things I've seen when massive transformations or changes have gone through industries?
edward dowd
There's a lot of cognitive dissonance in the insurance industry, and there's a lot of people who know what's going on, but they feel fearful to talk about it.
steve bannon
It's not the most... I mean, they don't have the courage of the Ryan Coles.
They figure, I've been in the industry 20 years.
If I step out of line, I'm done, and I've got no place else to go.
edward dowd
On Wall Street and in the insurance world, the insurance folks look at the Wall Street folks as mavericks and kind of crazy people, and they're very conservative.
It's a different career path.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
We'll take a short break.
Ed Dowd on the other side.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Your testimony today in front of Senator Johnson was what?
edward dowd
I did the pandemic scorecard.
steve bannon
When you implement a policy... The infamous pandemic scorecard.
edward dowd
The infamous pandemic scorecard.
Obviously, if you're implementing a health measure, there should be some sort of accounting of it and how it worked.
And if it was fantastic, we would be hearing all sorts of great news about how excess deaths came down after 2020, how the vaccine worked and saved so many lives.
The unfortunate truth is that excess deaths accumulated since 2021.
So there are about a half a million folks who perished in 2020, mostly old.
And then since 21, 22 and 23 we've had 1.1 million Americans excessively die and the biggest tell for me of the nefarious nature of what happened was from going about a half a half a million died each year 2020 21 excessively in 2020 is mostly old then there was a makeshift too young in 2021 And the makeshift was this, 124,000 15-64 year olds died in 2020.
That rose to 215,000 in 2021.
steve bannon
The one demographic that you shouldn't have, unless you had a war or something like that.
edward dowd
You know, the virus we were told only affected mostly old with comorbidities.
And the makeshift was this, it went from 24% Okay, your numbers are pretty bulletproof.
steve bannon
At least they look like it when I've gone through this.
However, the world's an efficient market.
So if your data was right, you know, particularly the ecosystem we call the capital markets and particularly the equity capital markets, you would believe that there would be a swarm of people out there looking to short Certain companies because this bad news would be eventually flow through their income statement, right?
Particularly the insurance companies, maybe biopharmaceutical and lawsuits, but Moderna and Pfizer, which stock the Pfizer stocks way down.
I think their revenues are back to 2016 levels.
But why have the insurance companies?
Why have the shorts not gotten an insurance cut?
Why are people not taking your data and weaponized it financially like people do?
And that's what makes markets efficient.
edward dowd
Well, it's a relative game in the markets.
Insurance stocks haven't done all that well, but they're not tremendously down from their highs, although Lincoln Financial had some problems.
I think what's going on is the group life policies is where it showed up first, and that's short-term duration contracts.
They already raised their prices.
The big hits are going to come in whole life policies, which are underwritten.
Those are the ticket items that are 1 to 5, 10, 20 million individual policies.
And that is a Byzantine insurance accounting scheme where once, maybe every couple of years, they meet to revisit their long-term mortality assumptions.
My insider in the industry tells me that they're going to start to revisit their mortality assumptions this year and next year.
So we should see some big reserves and losses being taken sometime this year.
steve bannon
So that is the tell, when we see the reserves, and you think this will happen sometime... This year or next.
edward dowd
It's coming.
They can't... eventually they're gonna... the mortality, the excess mortality, I'm being told, is continuing in the insurance industry, and they're having questions about it.
And at the board level meetings, there's still this, we don't know why.
steve bannon
Right.
Where do people go to get your information?
Particularly, you're not particularly enthusiastic.
As you see the convergence of forces in the capital markets, you think this fall could be a September, October surprise.
For the country as a whole, not just the presidential race, but the country as a whole.
edward dowd
Yeah, there's been a huge disconnect between the economic reality on the ground, the anecdotes, and the data we're seeing.
The data at this point is laughable.
The St.
Louis Fed survey came out and the data was great, but if you went to the survey, the actual anecdotes, it was painting a grim picture, and the man in the street knows the reality of the situation.
At some point in the next I don't know, six months the truth will come out and we'll see the financial markets wobble and currency markets wobble and bond markets wobble.
steve bannon
Where do people go for everything?
Your book, and I think the book, is the book coming out paperback or has it got a new addendum to it?
edward dowd
It's got a new edition, 2023.
That's coming out soon.
steve bannon
That's Tony Lyons.
edward dowd
Tony Lyons, Sky Horse, Cause Unknown, Epidemic of Sudden Death in 21.
steve bannon
It's an amazing book.
And then where can everybody go for your financial and also all the other updates on excess deaths?
edward dowd
Uh, Finance Technologies, with a PH instead of an F, dot com, and go to the Humanities Projects.
We've done all that research for free.
It's been thousands and thousands of hours for free.
It's all there for everyone to look at and download.
I can be found on Twitter at Doud Edward and Getter at Edward Doud.
steve bannon
So you spent four days, three days at CPAC and then a couple days here.
You have five days in the nation's capital.
Are you ready to get out and go back to paradise?
edward dowd
Uh, I am, and I had to buy a winter coat coming out here, and that was quite the investment.
steve bannon
Reminds you why you left.
Ed Dowd, you're a good man, and a smart man.
Thank you so much for doing this.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Senator Johnson's got to be an atta boy, and we're going to try to get many more of the people that were there.
Historic day on Capitol Hill.
Also a historic weekend in Brazil.
Our own, our friend and colleague, Philippe Martin, is in a prison right now.
Of course, Bolsonaro, President Bolsonaro was on the streets yesterday with millions, and it looked like millions of people, followers.
They're going to play the B-roll.
Paolo Figueroa joins us.
Paolo, what is going on?
Why are they imprisoning Felipe, some of the closest advisors to President Bolsonaro?
Why is he in a general hold in a prison right now?
paulo figueiredo
Hi Steve.
It's a very sad story.
Felipe is being accused of participating in an attempt coup, supposedly Was President Bolsonaro's intention to... Hold it.
steve bannon
Slow down.
Hang on.
You're saying an attempted coup.
Is that coup from when Lula stole the election and President Bolsonaro and people around him were just trying to have an honest count of the vote?
Is that what they... Is the coup from back then or is it a current coup?
paulo figueiredo
No, it was a coup from back then when President—well, everyone tried to use the traditional courts in order to—same as in the U.S.
They went to the courts trying to ask for the judges, in that case the justice, to review the elections and give it more transparency.
But the justice didn't do anything.
While Bolsonaro thought about a few options, he ended up not doing anything.
But they say he attempted a coup and that Filipe Martins was also involved in it.
So, obviously it didn't happen.
Bolsonaro left office before the end of his term to come to the United States on vacation.
He didn't even watch Lula's inauguration in person.
So the story is kind of absurd, but it's part of a crackdown.
They're doing against any political opposition in Brazil right now.
Brazil is no longer a democracy and it hasn't been in a while, but right now things are escalating and getting worse.
The rumors are that President Bolsonaro is the next one to be in prison.
steve bannon
Well, walk me through the video.
You know, I was with Eduardo over the weekend and visiting with him, but I was, and I had the fortune to, I think, see you at CPAC 2 before you went back to the West Coast.
I'm shocked and stunned by the scale of the, I guess these are protests in support of President Bolsonaro and Felipe.
How many people were on the streets of Brazil?
And I understand they tried to block things off and make it very difficult to get there, but it looks like there were millions.
paulo figueiredo
Well, that's a very interesting topic because, by some accounts, it was the biggest protest in Brazilian history.
There's some debate over the exact numbers, but just to give you an idea, the 2019 Sao Paulo LGBT Pride Parade held the record with around 3 million people, and this event blew those numbers out of the water by the images.
So there's the discussion, the official numbers are 750,000 people.
I was just reading an article about an estimate of 2.3 million people And of course, the mainstream media is talking about 185,000 people.
Right.
But still, by their numbers, it's massive.
steve bannon
What is the purpose?
Were they there for Philippe?
Is it there for President Bolsonaro?
Are they tired of the Lula government?
I mean, what was the driving kind of focus or purpose of this?
You know, when you get a couple of million people in the streets on a Sunday, it's meaningful.
What was the centerpiece of why they were there?
paulo figueiredo
Well, this marks the first massive return to the streets since Bolsonaro's presidency ended.
Up until 2022, when Bolsonaro was president, it was pretty common to see patriotic Brazilians rallying.
But things really shifted after January 8th.
As you know, that day a group stormed public buildings in a scene eerily similar of the January 6th incident in the United States, with all the weird stuff happening as well.
There have been other protests in the meantime, but this one was the first one backed Officially backed by former President Bolsonaro himself, and we're talking about, as well, over a hundred Congress members, numerous senators, governors from the three biggest states in Brazil, and other high-profile pictures.
The main focus, of course, is the escalating dictatorship in Brazil, the crackdown of political opponents, especially targeting President Bolsonaro and his allies, including Felipe.
steve bannon
Is Felipe, can you give us the current status?
Because the general holding cell looked quite dangerous.
What's his current status?
paulo figueiredo
Well, what you're seeing on screen is definitely his current status.
He's in prison.
The accusation, it was a preemptive arrest to avoid, so he could stay in Brazil and not flee from prosecution.
The funny thing is that the Supreme Court says that he actually left Brazil to come to the United States, and his defense claims he never did it.
And so right now we're actually trying to work on a FOIA.
to prove that he didn't leave Brazil at any time.
He's been in Brazil since last year.
He didn't come to the United States with President Bolsonaro.
Well, he was definitely in Brazil at the time he was arrested.
But they say it was a preemptive arrest.
The idea behind a preemptive arrest is very simple.
So they put you in jail.
They keep you there for For an excuse, they find an excuse to put in jail, not a real legal reasoning behind it, but they just throw you in prison and they hope you plea a deal.
And the expectations that they have is that they say anything, he says anything about President Bolsonaro or other allies, and they're able to put them in prison as well and do the same thing with them.
It's a type of psychological torture.
steve bannon
We know that Lula was a partner of the CCP, right?
He's been over there.
He's a Marxist.
Has his reign of terror been worse than you expected?
The same or not as bad?
paulo figueiredo
So the reign of terror is mainly by Alexandre de Moraes, which is the justice of the Supreme Court that conducted the elections that brought Lula back to power.
So, Alexandre de Moraes was also the president of the Superior Electoral Court in Brazil, and the way he handled the elections here, it's really something.
Censorship, very unfair punishments to Bolsonaro, search warrants on Bolsonaro supporters' house, and stuff like that.
So, the reign of terror has been going on for a long time, and it just got worse with Lula in power, because they were able to put someone that's aligned with them On the executive branch, and now you have the executive branch aligned with the judiciary, but it's pretty much the judiciary who's calling the shots, not Lula.
And they even bragged about it.
They say they put Lula back in power.
They bragged about it.
When Lula supporters voted in favor of a bill that was against the interests of the Supreme Court justices, they reminded him, we put you in power.
steve bannon
And this is what they're accusing Felipe of doing a coup about, which is absolutely absurd.
Paulo, how do people follow you?
If they want to find out what's going on in Brazil, they've got to read you and follow you.
Social media, website, all of it.
paulo figueiredo
Well, they can find me on my Twitter, unless you're in Brazil.
If you're in Brazil, my Twitter is blocked.
But if you're outside of Brazil, you can access at Rio P. Figueiredo, which is my last name, at Rio P. Figueiredo, just as shown on screen.
And I try to publish everything that's going on in Brazil.
And the mainstream media doesn't report.
steve bannon
No, you're a hero.
And these Patriots and Felipe is a great, a great man.
I've had a real honor of working with him.
He's just fantastic.
I look forward to having you back on, sir.
Keep fighting.
The Bolsonaro movement in Brazil, they're not going to back down.
They're not going to give up.
up, they're not going to quit.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Huge fight coming up over the next couple of days.
I want everybody to check in with Grace Chong on Bill Blaster.
Because folks are coming back tonight and tomorrow.
I think Wednesday and Thursday are going to be in full fight.
And then of course midnight on Friday.
It's going to be the shutdown or either be another continued resolution or one year CR or omnibus or minibus or maxibus.
It's all up in the air right now.
What we know we cannot do.
Is, uh, is fold on the border.
If you do not shut the border down, and I mean shut it down, he's got all the executive power, he's even hinted at that, then you have to shut down the government.
Plus, there can be, they're up there working non-stop, non-stop, on how to get a discharge petition.
We'll tell, give you more details on that tomorrow.
It's quite difficult to do that.
This is actually getting something to the floor around the Speaker of the House, which is virtually impossible.
It's going to require a big lift from the Republicans, and we'll be calling these names out, of people who are actually working with the Democrats right now to get money to the Ukrainian oligarchs.
Zelensky came out on CNN and went, never Trump.
He said Trump's, you know, not listening.
Trump, you know, this is, Trump has been president of the United States and gave us three years of peace and prosperity before he hit with a bioweapon.
Right.
With a bioweapon by the CCP was trying to take him out.
And this punk and he is a punk and everybody on the conservative side that said, oh, he's Winston Churchill.
No, you were just dead wrong once again.
Bad call.
This guy's a punk and he's in high punk factor now.
Now it's now it's our fault.
Here's the thing.
It's just money.
It's fungible.
Have Europe write the check.
If you need this money, it's absolutely critical, or the Russians are going to win, and Ukraine's going to... Then, hey, it's the Europeans' fight.
England, France, Germany, Norway, Sweden, all of them are putting Sweden in NATO Day.
All of you, get your checkbook out and write it.
And not the phony $50 billion euro, which only 12 and 12, 12 one year, 12 the next, and then an option.
Guess what?
They're not going to call the option.
They're not going to use the option.
If $60 billion is what you need and that's going to get victory, then write the 60 billion and then it's over.
And maybe you can supply some of the 500,000 kids.
Big talk today.
Some of the NATO countries talking about maybe sending troops.
Send them.
Go for it.
Go for it.
Defend yourselves.
Do it.
We've stopped being the nanny here.
This thing's going to get quite turbulent.
This week's going to be quite intense.
So rest up.
You had a great CPAC.
Yesterday's a day of rest.
Today, kind of coming into this thing as we're coming into it.
But it's going to heat up big league.
Make sure you go to Birchgold.
Now's the time to talk to the Phillip Patrick team.
Go to birchgold.com.
Get Phillip Patrick and the team on the phone and have them walk you through precious metals, particularly the converging forces that the central banks throughout the world also see in the de-dollarization movement as they buy gold at record rates in, wait for it, 22, 23, and now starting off in 24.
Make sure you understand that.
Also, the guys at Jace Medical.
Do not let the Chinese Communist Party, that's in back of a lot of this, steal the high ground from you.
They control 100% of artificial API, active pharmaceutical ingredients, 100%.
Generic drugs can be made without them.
Make sure you go to Jace Medical.
Dr. Sean and the team that took the book of Rosemary Gibson made a business out of it on supply chains.
JaceMedical.com.
Immerse yourself.
David Flynn joins us.
David, thank you so much for joining us.
You watch on livestream all day today.
Give me your takeaway from Senator Johnson's, this preliminary, the pre-hearing.
unidentified
Yeah, thanks, Steve.
Thanks.
You know our history with my son and the journey we've had with his vaccine injuries, so it was hard to watch this morning.
It was hard to watch.
I had my wife there in tears.
I've got to say, kudos to the Senator and everyone who helped put it together.
What they really talked about is just that this topic is a train wreck.
This is easily the worst health disaster in human history, and the deeper we go and the more it comes out, it just keeps getting worse and worse.
They covered a lot of topics.
I was actually amazed at the width and the breadth of the topics they covered.
They did a great job.
But I do have to say, one of the things that I didn't hear anybody talking about was a solution today to help recover these people that got the shots.
I mean, we need transparency, we need accountability, we need to make sure it doesn't happen again.
And all that information came out, but I didn't hear a lot about the just human carnage that's there right now that we need to address.
steve bannon
Warrior Central, you guys, you and your wife, have been at this for 17 years.
Tell us about, you guys have come up with a solution.
Walk us through it.
unidentified
Yeah, and that's the good news, is that we have that solution at warroomwellness.com.
So there's some uncomfortable truths we need to get out, and that's that, look, if you got the shot, this poison's inside you.
Even if you were just around people that got the shot, it's likely inside you, and that could be building up damage every day.
We can't put our heads in the sand.
We can't just hope it goes away.
Like you always say, Steve, we've got to take action, action, action.
It's clear from what we saw this morning.
The regulators aren't going to do it.
The government's not going to do it.
Big Pharma is certainly not going to do it.
You need to take control of your own health.
So our formulas are real simple.
They're simple to use, but there's complex science behind them.
They help to remove the toxins, including the spike proteins, repair the damage, and restore your epigenetic health and your health going forward.
So there's just nothing like this available on the market, Steve.
And we've been waiting, we've been expecting more, but there's just nothing like this out there.
So it's at warroomwellness.com.
We have lots of info there.
There's lots of science there, lots of studies.
You need to go and get your questions answered.
Get the information, get your questions answered.
And we have some great specials for the posse.
We've worked with you, Steve, to really put together some great deals, free shipping.
But the most important thing, especially after everything that came out this morning, this is a real problem.
And it's not going away.
There weren't good shots and bad shots.
There were bad shots and horrible shots.
And this is inside, essentially it's inside of all of us at that point.
So people need to take action today.
steve bannon
Go to warroomwellness.com.
Immerse yourself in information.
This is one.
Senator Johnson is going to lead into hearings on this.
Of course, it's a huge fight up on Capitol Hill among the Democrats to suppress all this and shut it down.
This is not going to go away.
You got the House with MTG.
You got the Senate with Senator Johnson.
Today, I think, was a landmark day, and we're going to drive this thing forward.
And the team around this is just absolutely extraordinary.
Warroomwellness.com.
David Flynn and his wife, they've been working on this because of the vaccine injury to their son for 17 years.
Quite extraordinary.
David, thank you.
It was great to see you at CPAC over the weekend, brother.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay.
Game on, fight on.
This is going to be quite intense.
The rest of this week, we need everybody to, you know, make sure today was your day to kind of catch up.
It is going to be quite intense.
Midnight on Friday.
You don't shut the border, shut the government.
And of course, there's going to be a Donnie Burke in the House, in the Senate.
Short commercial break.
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