Feb. 6, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Monday, 5 February, Year of the Lord 2024. | ||
| What a day. | ||
| What a way to kick off a week. | ||
| What a way to kick off a month. | ||
| I'm telling you the world's on fire right now for good reason. | ||
| Uh, I want to bring in John Henry Wesson, one of the most respected guys in, uh, kind of Catholic news throughout the world over at LifeSite News, one of the most revered and respected news sites. | ||
| John Henry, and I think you signed this, get our audience, because they're coming after the evangelicals on one hand, and they're coming after the traditional Catholics on the other, and one of the reasons they're saying is that all of us are Christian nationalists, right, which they deem as these domestic threat, and it's now starting to spread throughout the world that these are the worst people in the world, these Christian nationalists. | ||
| There was a letter sent last week to the Pope. | ||
| It's caused a firestorm. | ||
| I think you're one of the drafters of it. | ||
| You're certainly one of the signatories. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| What does the letter say? | ||
| How did it come about? | ||
| And why is it caused like an international news meltdown? | ||
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So one of the things going on is right before Christmas, Pope Francis promoted something to the shock of everyone, was allowing for the blessing of same-sex couples. | |
| It was so startling. | ||
| It was insane. | ||
| It's what Germany had been doing. | ||
| It's what Belgium had been doing. | ||
| But everybody thought, oh, the Synods are going to put an end to that. | ||
| He's going to walk it back. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Pope Francis himself signs on the document by Cardinal Fernandes, who's now the head of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of Faith, saying you can bless same-sex couples. | ||
| So huge reaction. | ||
| In fact, what happens is Cardinals who were formerly at the Vatican, in fact, the very one who headed up the same department from which the letter came from, the congregation, then Congregation of Doctrine and Faith, Cardinal Gerhard Miller. | ||
| He comes out saying, absolutely not, no way. | ||
| Cardinal Robert Serra, you know, great cardinal from Africa that was looked up to as the head of the Congregation for Divine Worship, also rejects it. | ||
| So these are totally just retired Vatican sort of department chiefs, if you will. | ||
| And then all of Africa. | ||
| All of Africa rejects it. | ||
| And yet the Pope, in a follow-up to that, says he's opposed on it by small ideological groups. | ||
| There's no small groups. | ||
| So the letter then was made by a bunch of scholars as well as journalists to write to the Vatican. | ||
| And it's really, even though it's directed to the Vatican and says you have to withdraw it, It's actually directed to the bishops. | ||
| We're aiming for the good bishops of the world to join their brother bishops in Africa to say absolutely no to this. | ||
| Bishop Strickland just signed on to this. | ||
| And it's very, very difficult because to understand what it means, they're saying it is approving the blessing of same-sex couples. | ||
| At the same time, they're trying to say, oh, we're not blessing the unions. | ||
| We're still regarding it as sinful. | ||
| Therefore, we're not going to say this is not marriage. | ||
| Steve, you remember when they were pulling same-sex marriage over Canada, over America, over all the countries in Europe. | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| Did they come in with same-sex marriage right away? | ||
| No! | ||
| It was all about civil unions. | ||
| We were even told, civil unions so that they won't have marriage. | ||
| This is couples to get to unions to get to marriage. | ||
| And to be honest, I hate to say this, but it's true. | ||
| If you want to be able to interpret what Francis means, because it's another ambiguous document, Use the hermeneutic of Francis. | ||
| Use the interpretation of Francis himself. | ||
| A few years ago, there was a big controversy because Francis was approving of same-sex civil unions. | ||
| He did it in a book. | ||
| He did it in a movie. | ||
| Oh, it was grave controversy. | ||
| People were trying to say, oh, he didn't mean that. | ||
| He didn't mean it. | ||
| Yet the words are there. | ||
| He's on video saying it. | ||
| When he appoints cardinals, who does he appoint? | ||
| All the pro-homosexualist cardinals in America. | ||
| Gregory, Cupich, Tobin, And it just keeps on going. | ||
| And which priest does he work with most in America? | ||
| And by the way, on the Cardinals, he gets rid of Cardinal Burke and appoints Cupich and company. | ||
| But then, which priest does he work with most? | ||
| You know, Father Frank Pavone? | ||
| No, no, he gets cancelled. | ||
| Father James Martin, the most homosexual promoting priest in America, him he works with. | ||
| Not only did he call him to speak at a Vatican conference and appoint him as advisor to the Vatican on one of the Pontifical Councils, he also meets with him three and four times and answers the questions from his LGBT group that he started. | ||
| So there is a way of understanding what Pope Francis means. | ||
| You just look at what Pope Francis does. | ||
| That is the hermeneutic of how to understand what's going on here. | ||
| John Henry, help me out here. | ||
| In the Episcopal Church, when the Archbishop of Canberra had this big blow-up a couple of years ago, and particularly in—that's the Anglican Communion—but particularly in North America, the Episcopal Church, the African bishops, once again, are like the conservative rocker, Gibraltar, about teachings. | ||
| Now you see in the Catholic Church. | ||
| What is going on in Africa? | ||
| They're under assault by the Muslims. | ||
| They're under assault by everything. | ||
| How is it that both in the Anglican Communion and in the Catholic Church, People are looking for the African bishops to be kind of the grounding force here. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
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On the issue of the family, on the protection of the sanctity of marriage, it's the only place on earth that has remained firm. | |
| Why? | ||
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Well, they've got an African culture, of course, but this is one thing I don't like. | |
| Pope Francis actually said, well, they're culturally bound, therefore he gave them an escape. | ||
| And he said, oh, they don't have to do these blessings. | ||
| Actually, wrong. | ||
| They get the faith. | ||
| You can't be so... It's almost racist to suggest, oh, they're bound by their culture, so they can't get the faith. | ||
| If they got the faith, then they'd understand that Jesus was wrong, and St. | ||
| Paul was wrong, and really homosexuality is just fine and good, and really what they meant is that two people who love each other than just get together has nothing to do with procreation. | ||
| Wrong. | ||
| The bishops of Africa get it. | ||
| Yes, their culture helps, and it helps to have a culture that's still pro-marriage, So that 95-98% of the congregants in your parish are not going to tolerate you going offside and having a boyfriend as a priest or approving of or blessing of same-sex unions. | ||
| So that is where it has stayed strong, and the Anglicans have tried now for 30 years to get their bishops to try and approve same-sex blessings and homosexual blessings and homosexual marriages. | ||
| It's not going. | ||
| It's not going to work either with the Catholic bishops. | ||
| It was interesting too, it was actually January of last year, the Pope suggested that the African bishops need to convert in the area of these anti-sodomy laws and rules that they have in Africa. | ||
| They're not doing it though. | ||
| John Henry, traditional Catholics, obviously the FBI, you've had the roll-up of people praying at abortion centers, you've had the kicking down the doors of traditional Catholics, you had the FBI memo that the Latin mass groups, which was about to perish my parents helped start back in the late 70s for the Tridentine service, their breeding ground for domestic terrorists. | ||
| Is this the opening salvo, you think, on a broader discussion within the Church about the direction of the Church that actually could lead to a schism? | ||
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I would hope that this would be about a broader discussion in the Church. | |
| The schism will be And it's almost going on now, but it's not by traditional Catholics. | ||
| Who's going into schism is Pope Francis himself, because he's teaching a different doctrine. | ||
| Remember what the scriptures say about the teaching of the Church. | ||
| Paul writes, St. | ||
| Paul, even if I or an angel from heaven were to come and preach a different gospel, let him be anathema. | ||
| And that's the difficulty. | ||
| We have six documents, official documents, in the church right now that seem to be heretical. | ||
| You had scholars, bishops, all appeal to Pope Francis, please, please, please don't do this. | ||
| Don't go down here. | ||
| Don't do the Pachamama. | ||
| Don't do the all religions are equal dance that he's been doing. | ||
| Yet no one seems to have been able to get to him. | ||
| It's also because there's not a strong united voice. | ||
| The best of bishops, Say, you know, well, we have to try and interpret it in a way that they have to do mental gymnastics to do to do that. | ||
| And yet it's very clear if you look at Francis at his example, his hermeneutic, if you will. | ||
| The whole wide world understands what this is. | ||
| That's why you have, you know, Newsweek, everybody praising Francis for this great move. | ||
| And yet all the bishops, the good bishops, in America and elsewhere, who are trying not to say anything, are saying, nope, nothing to see here, it's still all Catholic teaching, it's just fine. | ||
| Yet, it says, the document says, it's about the blessing of same-sex couples, and then what does that mean? | ||
| Well, it's pretty obvious when you look at Francis what he means. | ||
| John Henry Weston, where can people follow you? | ||
| This is an exploding story with global implications and massive implications in the United States because many of the leaders of this are from this country. | ||
| Where do people go to follow this? | ||
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Direct to lifesitenews.com, L-I-F-E-S-I-T-E-N-E-W-S dot com, because we're actually banned. | |
| We're banned twice from YouTube so far, from Twitter for a long time until Elon took over. | ||
| And also largely on Facebook and even Google. | ||
| Google won't show you it. | ||
| So go direct to lifesitenews.com. | ||
| About 20 to 30 stories a day, every single day. | ||
| An incredible site. | ||
| I go there first thing in the morning every day. | ||
| John Henry Weston, thank you so much for your leadership, your great journalism. | ||
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Great to be with you, Steve. | |
| Thank you so much. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Let's go to Rome and our own Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Ben, first, this is where you and I started off our journey together about these types of topics. | ||
| Give me your perspective before we get into the more mundane Ukraine, war, farmers. | ||
| We'll go from the sublime to the less sublime. | ||
| Good afternoon, Steve. | ||
| Yeah, well, look, I don't like saying what I'm going to have to say now because I don't want to scandalise our great evangelical brethren who watch this show, because I don't like washing the Catholic Church's dirty laundry, right, in public. | ||
| But the truth is this. | ||
| The Catholic Church has been what is called the Catholic Church. | ||
| Many people say it's not actually the true Church of Jesus Christ, founded by Christ, what is considered to be popularly the Catholic Church has been the institution, that is to say, has been meltdown since the mid-60s and the Second Vatican Council. | ||
| This is the sordid truth. | ||
| For the last, basically, six decades, we have had, we Catholics have had a make it up as you go along religion. | ||
| And it's been happening year by year. | ||
| Decade by decade, and this is now just the end product of this. | ||
| But if you are, basically, without going into inside baseball here, but if you are a Novus Ordo Catholic, this is what you signed up for, right folks? | ||
| If you are just an ordinary standard, you go to Mass, your regular Paris Mass on Sunday, this is exactly what you signed up for. | ||
| If you accept unquestioningly all of the Popes at the Catholic Church, Since 1958, since Pope Pius XII have proposed as popes, and they've been changing the post, but they've been basically boiling the water with the frogs in it for the last 60 years, then you're going to end up with this situation. | ||
| And as John Henry said, even if, quoting Saint Paul, even if you had an angel of light with a new gospel, this is, you know, Francis is not even dressed up as a As an angel of light, right? | ||
| You know, often I get people commenting on my Geta feed saying that, you know, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. | ||
| I have the same response. | ||
| I've had the same response for three years since I've been on Geta. | ||
| He's not a wolf in sheep's clothing. | ||
| He's a wolf in wolf's clothing. | ||
| He's exactly right. | ||
| He's exactly what you know. | ||
| There are no subtleties. | ||
| He's a globalist, possibly, I think, atheist, a man who He deeply hates the traditional Catholic faith. | ||
| Probably the only thing he hates more than the traditional Catholic faith are traditional Catholics. | ||
| There's no pretense that he sees his job as safeguarding the unchanging faith as it's come down to us from the apostles. | ||
| He's been trying to change it every single moment. | ||
| And look at who his allies are, Steve. | ||
| They're just the global, they are our sociopathic overlords. | ||
| Globalist. | ||
| In fact, I call him the Honorary Chaplain of the New World Order because that's what he sees his role as. | ||
| It's certainly not as the successor of Saint Peter. | ||
| I don't recognize him as Pope. | ||
| But if you do, perhaps it's a moment to take a quiet reflection and say, look, this is not what I have signed up for. | ||
| It's not what my family is signed up for. | ||
| I want to be a fervent believing Catholic, believing the Catholic Christian faith. | ||
| And then look around, there's a whole wealth of information out there on the Internet, right? | ||
| The answers are pretty much there, if you have the courage to follow them. | ||
| And then in prayer and in discernment, I'll try and try and work out the path forward. | ||
| But if you blindly accept this man, who I say is a wolf in wolf's clothing, if you blindly accept him as basically the lazy option, say, OK, look, he's the Pope, I'm just going to accept whatever he does. | ||
| Well, OK, look around you. | ||
| This is what you have signed up for. | ||
| I don't recognise it. | ||
| I don't accept it. | ||
| I'm trying my best to hold to the traditional Catholic faith. | ||
| And by the way, just going back to the evangelical point there, I find myself with affinity to believe in conservative evangelicals. | ||
| I see in them far more of a fraternal affinity than I have with 99% of so-called pseudo-Catholics, Steve. | ||
| Before we pivot to another topic, you said you don't accept him as your Pope. | ||
| Do we have an option? | ||
| This is really the question for perhaps a Saturday afternoon deep dive. | ||
| Look, formally, look, I can't tell you because I can't, I don't have any position of authority here in the Catholic Church to offer pastoral guidance. | ||
| I tell you what, I have not accepted him as Pope definitively since he said that Jesus, three years ago, he said that Jesus Christ in his earthly life wasn't divine. | ||
| That is, I mean, that's not even, I mean, it's not even heresy, right? | ||
| Because all branches of Christians believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ. | ||
| That is what, that is the most essential, fundamental point of being a Christian, that you believe that Jesus Christ is God. | ||
| This man who calls himself Pope, is recognised as Pope, doesn't believe it. | ||
| And he justified it. | ||
| He said that the fact that Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane prayed to the Father, that the I mean, the guy, I mean, I don't know if he's ignorant or acting in bad faith or incompetent, he doesn't seem to know that basically the elements of things like the hypostatic union that the Catholic Church | ||
| This is before the Reformation, so I say the Catholic Church, when there was only one church. | ||
| The Catholic Church worked these things out in sort of the third, fourth, fifth centuries. | ||
| And what we have now is basically the product of those ecumenical councils. | ||
| He's ignorant. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know, as I said, if he's just incompetent, if he's acting in bad faith. | ||
| I think he's acting in bad faith. | ||
| It's not possible that someone can reach those heights of the ecclesiastical chain and be ignorant of these things. | ||
| So when he says things, I seem to be acting in bad faith. | ||
| But from that moment forth, I do not recognize him, Steve. | ||
| I do not recognize him. | ||
| And therefore, I'm not bothered by these doctrinal changes and these pastoral changes because I just ignore him. | ||
| People should know when I met Ben and we've been working together, I don't know, for about a decade. | ||
| This was his line of work and he's one of the most brilliant guys I know. | ||
| And a convert, the Catholicism, I might add. | ||
| Ben, I want to hold the farmers and everything else we've got right wing. | ||
| I just got enough time to give us an update because this is now becoming central because of this fight. | ||
| over the budget and over the supplemental about Ukraine, because that's the centerpiece. | ||
| Let's get our audience up to date on what I call the soft military coup. | ||
| Zelensky now, over the weekend, has changed it that he might get rid of a whole slew of senior officials to try to cover the bad news that his military chief has revered. | ||
| Victoria Nuland looked like she went over to kind of salvage things. | ||
| What's an update? | ||
| Well, Steve, there is no update. | ||
| This is the great astonishing thing here that this CNN led the world's media towards the close of last week, scooping their special sources, which had assured them that CNN, that is, the Ukrainians had assured CNN that Zelensky would be gone by Friday. | ||
| And he's not gone. | ||
| So I don't trust those. | ||
| There's basically no update on this. | ||
| We were promised from an hour by hour that this was all in motion. | ||
| And this is, I think, the astonishing thing, that everything has been frozen. | ||
| I think this shows a tremendous weakness. | ||
| The longer this goes on unresolved, it shows President Zelensky in a weaker and weaker position. | ||
| Even, for example, Newsweek, I'll just read out this headline here, because I think it's perfectly illustrated. | ||
| Zelensky in a bind. | ||
| That's really the situation that the world's media is starting to pick up on, that what was supposed to be a power move on behalf of Zelensky to assert his authority is just an astonishing display of weakness. | ||
| Now, talking about the press, the Washington Post, look, Steve, when this thing broke, you might remember I came on, it was live, 11pm Rome time, I came on the show. | ||
| With this latest news that there's something going on in Ukraine. | ||
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And we said, what did we say, Steve? | |
| We said the astonishing thing here is that it appears that America and the UK haven't been consulted. | ||
| This was confirmed later on by the Times, amongst others, saying that his Western allies hadn't been consulted. | ||
| And in fact, Zelensky had been fired for a few hours on Monday, and while Zelensky was speaking to two generals to see if they would take his place, that's when the UK and the US, reading this from social media, came into play and put pressure on Zelensky to back down. | ||
| OK. | ||
| Now, so we said, what did we say on the war room, Steve? | ||
| What was our hot take on the war room? | ||
| We said that this is very damaging for President Biden, who's supposed to be a stalwart ally of this regime, not even to have been consulted. | ||
| Those words, Steve, and we were the only organisation, I think, to make that particular observation, that that insight must have stung because the Washington Post over the weekend came out with this astonishing article saying, no, no, no, no, the US had been consulted. | ||
| And said that it didn't have any objections to make. | ||
| See, this is frankly, flatly, you can just reject this out of hand. | ||
| It's not true and it can't possibly be true. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| Here's how you know this can't be true. | ||
| Because the whole of the past week, Steve, the world's media was wondering whether there's a military coup about to take place in Kiev, in Ukraine. | ||
| And the Biden administration didn't say a single word. | ||
| It would have been the easiest thing for them to have done to come out and say, We've been consulted on this. | ||
| We've said to Zelensky, do what you need to do, we'll support you, whatever. | ||
| That would have quelled a lot of tension and a lot of instability in Ukraine and the surrounding area. | ||
| The White House didn't say anything because the truth is it had no idea what was going on like the rest of us. | ||
| That's why Victoria Newland flew on her emergency visit to Kiev. | ||
| You can see, Steve, you pointed out at the time how hastily that supposed press conference had been thrown together. | ||
| That's basically the embassy picks up the phone and says she's landing in half an hour. | ||
| Get everything ready. | ||
| That's how much preparation they had. | ||
| That's because the State Department did not know what was going on. | ||
| When the Washington Post comes out and cites an administration source saying, no, no, the U.S. | ||
| was consulted, that shows how seriously they take us. | ||
| The very opposite is the truth. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| isn't taken remotely seriously by Zelensky. | ||
| And I think, as a number of other sources in the media had suggested, Zelensky is going to own whatever happens now. | ||
| He's going to own the consequences of whatever happens now. | ||
| You have two things. | ||
| Number one, the military chief, they put the burden on him on the 500,000 new recruits. | ||
| They can't fight. | ||
| There's no spring offensive unless they restock this army because they've taken such huge casualties on essentially defending, you know, what they've got. | ||
| The really spring offensive was just throwing bodies into a charnel house for nothing. | ||
| He's being blamed for that, but he's telling them, hey, we can't press gang that many people. | ||
| It's just not going to work. | ||
| And Zelensky doesn't want to hear it. | ||
| At the same time you have on Capitol Hill, There's going to be a huge fight over this Ukraine money. | ||
| Biden's put no plan together. | ||
| What's next year? | ||
| What's the following year? | ||
| But you can't put money into a single, even people that support this Ukrainian cause. | ||
| Don't you believe they have to realize that this is a government that's coming apart? | ||
| I mean, Zelensky over the weekend said, well, it's not just the military commander. | ||
| I may replace four or five other senior people. | ||
| It is a government that's spinning out of control and coming unwound. | ||
| The last thing the United States needs to do is put 60 billion dollars, and people are lying about the European deal. | ||
| It's not 50 billion euros, it's 24 billion euros over two years, so it's basically a 12 billion dollar for the first year, 12 billion for the second, and then they have an option which they'll never agree to. | ||
| So the funding sources are drying up, and here in the United States a big part of this debate is going to be What's happening at Keeve because it seems like it's coming unwound, sir? | ||
| See, that analysis is spot on. | ||
| All I can do is repeat what we said on the war room last week. | ||
| Another factor that must be in play here, and it seems to be absent from the Senate's discussion on this in presenting its final draft bill on this, Who, whom, is the United States going to be giving this money to? | ||
| If they were in a situation where the civilian government's future is in jeopardy and there might be a coup, and this is every possibility that this could be the case, we now have, we will have a military junta running Ukraine, a dictatorship. | ||
| How on earth, now, how on earth Can the Biden administration say we're in this to defend democracy when the Ukrainian government will have be a military government overthrowing having overthrown the civilian government and this year? | ||
| There's a presidential election where Putin is standing for re-election in a perfectly, well, I won't say it's perfectly regular, but it is at least an election. | ||
| How on earth do we then, how does the West, the allies in the West, still maintain that we're in this to preserve That argument's been increasingly threadbare, Steve, thanks largely to Zelensky's own manoeuvres in Ukraine. | ||
| So this is a question that the United States, Congress, must work out before it gives us another single red cent to Ukraine. | ||
| And I hope it won't give another penny at all. | ||
| But it needs to find out, it needs to be sure that there is a civilian government in Ukraine, because it cannot be funding a military dictatorship. | ||
| Real quickly, where do people go to get all your great updates on Getter? | ||
| Thank you so much, Steve. | ||
| Simply my surname, at Harnwell on Getter. | ||
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| Incredible what you're doing over there. | ||
| Thank you so much, sir. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
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| Short break. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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| It's really cool. | ||
| You don't have to bring out your phone. | ||
| When you put on Apple Vision Pro, what you see is your space and everything in it. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
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Another way, a physical digital hybrid. | |
| form of computing. So that the type of inputs that you put into the hardware, which are either self-contained virtual reality headsets, augmented reality goggles, or your phone, or new types of wearables, these all have input from your environment that is necessary to calibrate the devices, and you have body-based data that you give back to the devices. | ||
| So it makes it feel real to your body and your cognition in a way that flat-screen computing just doesn't. | ||
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| Joe Allen joins us, our editor for all things transhumanism. | ||
| Joe, you were at CES. | ||
| You kind of saw the products of the future, what they were pushing. | ||
| Next thing you know, we have this really monumental hearing that didn't get enough attention, I think, from the leaders of all the social media companies that got ripped apart by the Senate, at least in the questioning. | ||
| Now you've got everything. | ||
| People are coming out. | ||
| Facebook, the day after that hearing, he announced a dividend was going to be paid. | ||
| His net worth, personal wealth, increased $28 billion. | ||
| Plus he gave himself a $700 million, almost a billion dollar dividend payment. | ||
| Zuckerberg's increased in his personal net worth $28 billion after that hearing. | ||
| Where Hawley embarrassed him to apologize to the parents of kids that have been destroyed. | ||
| Where are we on this? | ||
| Are the social media companies now emboldened just to continue to shape the future and particularly shape the future for our most vulnerable generation? | ||
| Yes, Steve, the bad news is yes, that's exactly what seems to be happening. | ||
| Clearly saw Mark Zuckerberg flip-flopping and floundering and unable to give any kind of answer that indicated he has a conscience or even, you know, dim awareness of what it's like to be human. | ||
| And investors saw that. | ||
| And I suppose Wall Street loves a sociopath. | ||
| Wall Street loves a predator. | ||
| So there you have it. | ||
| The companies are going full steam ahead. | ||
| That's all of them. | ||
| Twitter. | ||
| Facebook, Google with their products, not a single one is giving any indication that their quest to accelerate the development of artificial general intelligence and a wide array of artificial narrow intelligences, the metaverse project that came to attention because of Zuckerberg, but of course preceded Mark Zuckerberg by decades and is much broader | ||
| than anything happening at Meta, even if Meta is trying to stake a claim on it. | ||
| But you saw there his pitch to the public that artificial general intelligence will be a primary project going forward for Meta, that it will be open sourced, meaning that the code itself will be available to others for their use or improvement or correction. | ||
| People who are, uh, let's say on the doomer end of the spectrum with AI are horrified because that means that, uh, you know, even a small scale outfit could develop a potentially dangerous AI or AGI due to the kind of open nature of what's, uh, proposed anyway at Meta. | ||
| But yeah, all, all in all, Steve, what I am seeing here is the. | ||
| Race to develop AI, the race to actually flesh out a metaverse that people want to spend significant amounts of time in. | ||
| Of course, Elon Musk on top of that, the race to create a direct brain computer interface, which if you think that people wearing goggles looks goofy and horrific, imagine people with chips in their brains. | ||
| And then on down the line, and this is in direct competition, of course, too, with China. | ||
| That's how it's framed. | ||
| And the Biden administration is trying to forge partnerships with China. | ||
| Open AI held secret diplomatic meetings around the time of Davos with their Chinese counterparts to try to craft a way forward to work together safely, they say. | ||
| For AI. | ||
| So I see this as both a national and a kind of consumer issue. | ||
| Do you let your kids on social media? | ||
| Do you let your kids immerse themselves in the metaverse? | ||
| I would say that is a really bad idea. | ||
| But the government, despite what we saw from Holly and others, the government I don't think is going to step in and save anybody from any of this, not anytime soon. | ||
| And so it really is, at the moment, in our hands. | ||
| It's not because it's going to be, so the Luddites got to take over, because right now you see the power in the lobbyists and all that. | ||
| Real quickly, because I've got to bounce. | ||
| The story in the Daily Mail about Metaverse is like a cesspool of perversion and degeneracy. | ||
| Just give me a minute on that. | ||
| Is Zuckerberg aware of that? | ||
| And if he's aware of it, why are not civil and criminal charges being filed here? | ||
| Yeah, this has been an issue from the beginning. | ||
| There were stories going back a year and a half, two years, and it's been reiterated again. | ||
| Daily Mail went into the metaverse, so to speak, to see what was going on. | ||
| They found young children being groomed. | ||
| They found simulated gang rape, people being sexually assaulted. | ||
| This is not new, and that's not to dismiss it at all. | ||
| It's just to say it's kind of endemic. | ||
| Perverts go online because the anonymity shields them from any kind of consequences. | ||
| The virtual reality worlds are no different. | ||
| Perhaps even the enticements are more prevalent or more intense because of the 3D nature. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But yes, this is going to be a huge problem. | ||
| It's a big question, again, for parents as they go forward. | ||
| Is this the way that you want to mold your child's mind? | ||
| Even minus all the perversion, I think it's a bad idea. | ||
| But in the same fashion as you have with the internet or any other sort of online forum, there's always the potential for predatory adults to groom your kids. | ||
| I think that all in all, Zuckerberg is absolutely aware of it, just as he was aware of the various child trafficking organizations operating on Facebook. | ||
| So these people, I don't think, have any concern whatsoever about public safety. | ||
| They want to accelerate their technology and they want to increase their profits. | ||
| Anything else seems to be incidental. | ||
| Dark Aeon, Transhumanism and the War Against Humanity is the book from Joe Allen. | ||
| It is compulsively readable. | ||
| You won't put it down. | ||
| It explains everything to you, the conversions, what we call the singularity. | ||
| Joe, social media, where do people get your writings? | ||
| You can find everything at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z, getter and X. | ||
| Also, warroom.org under the transhumanism tab. | ||
| Thank you very much, Steve. | ||
| Joe Allen, great work. | ||
| Now in our continuing coverage of Black History Month, the other day we had Mark A. Oletta in this great book and movie about Justice Thomas, truly Justice Thomas' court. | ||
| He's one of the greatest Americans of the 20th century and now the 21st century. | ||
| We have Dr. John Sibley Butler and of course our own Raynard Jackson join us. | ||
| Dr. Butler, I want to start with you. | ||
| We began the show We were talking about this schism that's happening in the Catholic Church about traditional teachings. | ||
| It turns out the African bishops are coming forward and are really the backbone of the traditional and conservative Catholics. | ||
| And I mentioned a couple of years ago we had the exact same issue in the Anglican Communion in the Global Episcopal Church, that in the United States they were looking towards conservative Episcopalians I think you're exactly right. | ||
| So if you look at my book, if I can say that, Entrepreneurship and Self-Help Among Black Americans, I look at the importance of religion. | ||
| backbone. Is this because, is the traditional black family actually more conservative than the average American or even the average family in England, sir? | ||
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I think you're exactly right. So if you look at my book, if I could say that entrepreneurship and self-help among black Americans, I look at the importance of religion. And I've always said that black Americans are certainly, when you look at the ideas of some of the most conservative people in the world, conservative in terms of education, education of the children. | |
| And that's been so since the late 1800s. | ||
| So you have these enclaves of Methodist churches, private black colleges that have educated their kids for generations and generations. | ||
| So I would say that when everything is done and all of the ideas are done, that the most conservative people in America are black Americans. | ||
| When it comes to that portion that looks at the relationship between religion and future generations, that portion that looks at the relationship between religion, entrepreneurship, and future generations. | ||
| That is no doubt. | ||
| That is what my work has shown over the years. | ||
| So coming to Black America is a good thing. | ||
| The question is, will Black America show their conservatism when it comes to the relationship between religious ideas and the future for your children? | ||
| Dr. Butler, everything that's happened in the last couple of years, this craziness and insanity on transgender, on all these, you know, what they're doing in the schools, what's the pornography that's put in libraries, this radical LGBTQ If the Black family is so conservative, the onslaught against the Black family is relentless, particularly in the public school system. | ||
| What's going to happen here? | ||
| Are Black Americans going to step up and say, hey, we've had enough of this? | ||
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Well, actually, you have really kind of two Black Americans, as Bob Woodson likes to say. | |
| We have the Black poor, and we have the traditional educated Americans. | ||
| I'm proud to say I'm a fourth-generation college graduate, and so I'm in that tradition. | ||
| I think the assault comes from those individuals We have been left out of that tradition of kind of what I call Black excellence. | ||
| So I think that the assault on the Black family is the assault on the poor Black family. | ||
| And then if you look at the convergence of the two, then there's no difference. | ||
| So Raynard Jackson would always ask me, well, Dr. Butler, why are we talking to this portion of the Black community when it comes to the idea of conservatism and moving things ahead? | ||
| So Steve, you have to look at the history. | ||
| Uh, and, uh, I'm a black southerner, proud black southerner from Louisiana. | ||
| I had everything, uh, growing up, uh, in the 1950s and the 1960s. | ||
| And I think that it's very, very important to make that distinction. | ||
| Now, the question is when would that element of black Americans step up and say, look, we know what the problem is. | ||
| We have been educating people for generations and generations and the assault on the, on the black family. | ||
| has to be an interaction between, hey, history and where we're now. | ||
| Steve, we know how to solve all of these problems, okay? | ||
| So when I go to a graduation at Dillard University and they ask all of the graduates to stand up and they're 100 years old, we know how to solve this issue. | ||
| So I think that the question is, when will people come out and say, look, here's the deal. | ||
| The black civil rights movement had been hijacked by white groups. | ||
| I called the alphabet groups and other white groups hijacking the civil rights movement, okay? | ||
| It's hijacked in the sense, for example, I'm a professor at the University of Texas at Austin. | ||
| We've always had white gays there. | ||
| We've always had whites who didn't know where to go to the bathroom there. | ||
| We've always had all of these so-called white minority groups. | ||
| They have never been denied. | ||
| So what they did, Steve, they went from Equal opportunity to how many, right? | ||
| To how do you feel? | ||
| Who's offended, right? | ||
| So what you gotta do is, I think that the black population has to separate itself, and everybody should stand on their own history. | ||
| And to me, a white gay is just a white guy, a white lesbian is just a white woman, because Steve, I'm a southerner. | ||
| And Steve, if you went to the white bathroom, In the old days, then you're white. | ||
| That's the way I look at the world. | ||
| But to get back to your major point, the big thing is, people have got to step up and say, look, here's the deal. | ||
| To get America moving forward, okay? | ||
| Get rid of the dependency. | ||
| Go back to Raynard Jackson and what Bob Woodson has been talking about, and myself, and entrepreneurship, and self-help among Black America, and understand that the solutions going forward has already been done by the Black population. | ||
| There's nothing new. | ||
| So you got to get off this idea of calling people racist. | ||
| It does absolutely nothing. | ||
| You know, I debated David Duke at LSU, and the only thing I asked him for was a contract to make the sheets for the Klan. | ||
| Now, I don't want you hurting me, but I want the contract to make the sheets for the Klan. | ||
| I don't care what you think. | ||
| This is America. | ||
| I did not go to Vietnam to get a bronze star for combat and valor for somebody to tell me how I can think and what I can do. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So going forward, I'm saying, is that the solutions are already there. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Let me ask you, I want to talk about DEI. | ||
| You know, my daughter's a West Point grad with the 101st Airborne. | ||
| She's very disturbed what's going on. | ||
| Her beloved Army, I know you were a combat helicopter pilot in Vietnam. | ||
| This DEI that's in the military, it's been one of the great institutions for the advancement of patriotic black Americans. | ||
| Do you see a crisis in the military right now, among other institutions, where they're actually losing contact with conservative blacks about what should happen? | ||
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Well, DEI is a problem anywhere. | |
| I wrote an article in the Dallas Morning News entitled, How DEI is Killing Black Professors Like Me. | ||
| John Butler, Dallas Morning News. | ||
| And Steve, here's the deal. | ||
| The purpose of the military is to defend the country. | ||
| Even when you go back historically, we fought World War, we fought World War, you know, World Civil War with ex-slaves. | ||
| We fought World War I with Italian immigrants, right? | ||
| And all of the equality stuff is a byproduct of defending the country. | ||
| You do not go into the military and adopt the stuff that we have in the civilian stuff called DEI, which there's no really definition of. | ||
| Now, if the definition of is for you to like everybody, well, you know, if you play golf, you're my friend. | ||
| If you play guitar, you're my friend, you know, and if you like to solve problems, you're my friend. | ||
| But the military itself has got to maintain It's traditional role of defending America. | ||
| And what, and the great thing about the military is this, everybody who has a job, as I did a book with Charles Masters, All That We Can Be. | ||
| That was the best book for the Washington Post. | ||
| I mean, and, and so thing about the military, if you have a job in the military, you've been trained. | ||
| If you're a cook, you've been to cooking school. | ||
| If you're a helicopter guy, you've been to helicopter school, right? | ||
| And if we look at all of that and you say, what's the military for? | ||
| It is to defend the country, right? | ||
| And the thing about the military is that the social integration should take care of all of the, and I was on the chopper, not flying the chopper, by the way. | ||
| So I think, I think it's important for us to understand this going forward. | ||
| We have to understand that the purpose of the military is to defend the country and not to solve all of the social ills. | ||
| Solving the social ills is a by-product of defending the country. | ||
| Blacks fought in the Civil War as a byproduct to defend the country, and they got paid. | ||
| World War II, they got paid. | ||
| So my point is that we cannot let the military go down this DEI road, right, where there's no definition of it, except you get weaker. | ||
| You need a strong military, a kick-butt military. | ||
| If you mess with me, I'm coming after you. | ||
| And we should not be spending time. | ||
| This is not equal opportunity. | ||
| DEI is different. | ||
| Oh, are you offended by the way I act? | ||
| You got to get rid of all of that and have strong people in the military. | ||
| And I think the all-volunteer force has done a great job with what it has. | ||
| But the world is coming up, as Charles Boskus, my professor at Northwestern, would say, we have to have a very, very strong military. | ||
| And DEI does not get us there. | ||
| Back in the day, Steve, Let me just say this real fast. | ||
| Back in the day, we were doing equal opportunity in race relations. | ||
| And we went to the army and said, well, we're going to have all of these classes. | ||
| We went to the Marine Corps. | ||
| And the general said, this is what we do. | ||
| We take a black soldier and a white soldier and let them low crawl underneath barbed wire for a mile. | ||
| And when they come out, they love each other. | ||
| So the point is, if you do the things that the military has always done, then you don't need all of the stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dr. Butler, where do people get your books? | ||
| Where do they get your writings? | ||
| What's the website, social media, all of it? | ||
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Well, you can do the Amazon. | |
| It's John Sibley Butler. | ||
| I've got lots of books. | ||
| And the ones that are prevalent here is Entrepreneurship and Self-Help Among Black Americans, A Reconstruction of Race and Economics. | ||
| And I compare entrepreneurial groups with black Americans, argue that black Americans, southern blacks did a great job in creating their own institutions. | ||
| And those kind of things. | ||
| And the other one is all that we can be with Charles Boskus about the military stuff that I've talked about. | ||
| Then I have one on technology transfer, if you want to go to the technology route, because I'm considered one of the founders of Austin, Texas in the tech field. | ||
| So we did a great job with Austin, Texas, Steve. | ||
| And it's good to talk to you again. | ||
| We talked earlier about bringing manufacturing back to America. | ||
| I was a professor in China, but we had talked earlier about that before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Dr. Butler, honored to have you on here. | ||
| Rainer Jackson, thank you for setting it up. | ||
| This whole series we're going to be doing in the month of February, talking to black entrepreneurs, historians, all of it for our commemoration of Black History Month. | ||
| Okay, Lou Dobbs follows us next. | ||
| We're back here at 10 a.m. | ||
| tomorrow morning Eastern Standard Time. | ||
| It's going to be on fire! | ||
| about the impeachment of Mayorkas, this bill that's going to destroy America, the Invasion Authorization Bill, the RNC, all of it, tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. |
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