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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
It's Thursday, 11th January in the year of our Lord 2024.
Very special guest now, the finest political reporter in Washington, D.C., in the nation's capital.
And somebody's been at it for a long time.
Matt Boyle, the senior, I guess, editor, national political editor of Breitbart, and has just done an incredible, I guess, a two or three hour with Alex Marlowe interview of President Trump for print.
He's been rolling out, I think it's six or seven stories.
We're bundling all together so that you can read it.
We're going to go through that.
Matt, thank you so much for joining us.
Matt, I want to start, though, at the beginning, some of your background.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think you're the only person.
To be directly mentored by Tucker Carlson when he came out of the box, then Andrew Breitbart, and then yours truly, Stephen K. Bennett.
Is that the fact?
You're the only living individual that had mentorship directly by those three guys?
matthew boyle
I think that is correct, Steve.
I don't know.
I can't think of another person that that is the case with.
My first job out of college, I was a reporter for Daily Caller.
So I worked very closely with Tucker Carlson, learned a lot from him.
I had gotten to know Andrew Breitbart very well during that time and worked with him on a whole ton of different stories.
I didn't actually work for Breitbart until after Andrew had passed away and then obviously you were our executive chairman after that had happened and you convinced me to come over and work for Breitbart after the 2012 election.
I'll never forget the conversation you told me Uh, you know, after Mitt Romney had lost, uh, you know, an election that he should have won, uh, he should have beat Barack Obama.
It was an embarrassment.
Uh, you were like, we can never let this happen again in our country.
Let's go save the country.
And, uh, I was like, all right, let's do it.
So, uh, and then I've been at Breitbart ever since.
So I've been at Breitbart for a little over 11 years now.
So yeah, I think I'm the only person that worked for, uh, worked with and for all three of you guys.
steve bannon
Matt, you saw something and you came and I think you'd gone to American University.
I think you got in a fight over there with some of the faculty or remember you it was pretty contentious.
But when you came to DC and I think the power of your reporting because I would say you're the first.
Reporter of any significance to understand this kind of populist nationalist Movement things are happening at the border things are happening with China things are happening with manufacturing how the elites were from the Romney campaign But you saw it early on to walk us through that journey walk us through because I don't know if you came predisposed I know your parents are hard-working conservatives, but you were more I think in a traditional As many people are, this kind of traditional mindset, which is really a neoliberal, neocon mindset.
But you came here and saw something quite different.
It's one of the reasons that you were, I think, the first person of any significance onto President Trump and what was happening.
Walk us through that journey.
matthew boyle
Yeah, look, so when I graduated my undergrad degree in 2010, it was the height of the Tea Party movement.
I was originally moving to Washington, D.C.
for a master's degree.
program at American University.
It's amazing to watch all this happening right now with all the colleges and universities and going to the hard left and all the political discrimination we see against conservatives and like the Charlie Kirk groups and the Turning Point folks on campuses around the country because I kind of went through it before any of that ever existed, right?
Like so when I got showed up at American University, I'd been freelancing for Daily Caller.
Again, for Tucker Carlson's publication, I was writing some, you know, stuff about the oil spill in Florida and, like, covering a couple Tea Party rallies and some campaigns and stuff.
Nothing significant on my way there.
And then I joined the staff part-time at first while I was still at American University, and I had all these lefty professors that were giving us assignments like, America is Islamophobic.
Explain why.
And I was like, well, I disagree with that.
Right?
Like I was like, I don't think so.
unidentified
Right?
matthew boyle
Like they wanted us to go to Michelle Obama's vegetable garden at the White House and do a bunch of puff pieces.
So I started digging into, uh, the fact that Bill Clinton, uh, when he was the president, uh, put all sorts of lead chemicals in the soil.
And apparently the first family, Michelle Obama, despite all this press she got for the, for the vegetable garden, didn't even eat the vegetables.
They literally canceled the entire school trip because I was asking some tough questions.
and i refuse to back down from asking then white house chef sam castro uh... so apparently in the obama orbit uh... and for you know follow them up that barely he was there are not as many as stuff i was gonna ask him a question does the first family these vegetables that come out of this garden that has led poisoning in itself are apparently they don't have to the homeless shelter down the street they don't actually what they were doing but anyway the point is that they were all the lefty things that they were doing so i got into major fights with the university
and I ended up, Tucker Carlson convinced me to.
Leave the master's degree program.
I did in the middle of the master's degree program, which would have been unthinkable, right?
Like the people around and the rest of my class, they all work at places like CNN and the Washington Post and USA Today and all sorts of places like that.
It would have been unthinkable for your career path.
But I decided, I was like, you know what?
These people are all wrong.
I'm going to go the other way.
And I went and worked for Daily Caller for the next two and a half years before I ended up coming over here to Breitbart.
Uh, and, uh, broke a whole ton of stories, right?
Like, and then that kind of laid the groundwork for, then we started seeing what the establishment Republicans were screwing up on.
One of the big storylines, uh, that I did right when I first started at Breitbart was of course with John Boehner.
John Boehner was the then Speaker of the House and he was, uh, failing on all of the things that Republicans had promised voters for a long time.
I think I was the first person to ever write about a motion to Okay.
Now it's like a household work, right?
Like everybody knows what a motion to vacate is, right?
Like, but I think I was the first person to ever figure out what a motion to vacate is.
And we were on that story with Boehner for years and years, right?
It was three, three serious attempts at them.
And the third one, they finally got them.
When Mark Meadows did the motion to vacate in 2015.
But people have no idea what that word was until Mark Meadows did it and we were covering it.
Now it's like a thing, right?
So we were tracking all these stories and kind of being ahead of the curve on all of this stuff.
And the big overarching theme was there's all these regular people out there around the country, folks, you know, like my folks, like regular people out there all around America who don't have a voice In the political process in Washington.
And the biggest, I guess, middle finger to the political class in Washington was when this guy Donald Trump came along in 2016 and started running for president.
I first got to know President Trump in like 2013, 2014.
So it's been about a little over 10 years that I've known the president.
And so we were regularly talking over the course of all of this time.
We would do interviews and Most of the stuff about the issues and he would speak out and I think his election in 2016 was very much a middle finger from the regular guy to Washington D.C.
out of frustration, out of, you know, severe frustration.
The regular folks know they're not being heard on issues like immigration, like trade policy.
I like healthcare, everything, right?
Like they didn't have a seat at the table.
That's what this is all about.
Everything is all about power and control.
Who's in power, who's in control, who makes the decisions.
And is this government actually elected a representative of the people?
And for years and years and years, we've seen it wasn't.
And I think that the election of Trump in 2016 was a huge course correction.
from the working class around the country.
And then what we saw in 2020 was the elites and the powerful, the globalist class, et cetera, grab power back in the 2020 election.
And now the fight this year is about will the working class regular guy retake that power that they first had a taste of in 2016.
steve bannon
Hang on.
We're going to get into your reporting.
This six or seven stories you've broken out of the interview are amazing.
I want to get to that.
But I've got to go back.
There wouldn't have been a Trump presidency coming out of that first debate if, quite frankly, because Fox News and Megyn Kelly, this is the Murdochs, decided they were going to take down Trump at the very beginning of that first debate.
Let's hear from Megyn Kelly.
PBS later did a one-hour special on this.
Let's hear from Megyn Kelly.
I'll bring Matt Boyle back in.
unidentified
Trump had a powerful ally in the attack on Kelly, the right-wing website Breitbart, and its leader, Steve Bannon.
steve bannon
Fox has chosen a side.
It's so evident in that debate that they're there to kneecap Donald Trump, OK?
They're there to take him out.
And that's when we go, OK, we run.
20 stories on Megyn Kelly.
I get Tony Lee and Matt Boyle, my two hammers.
They go right after Megyn Kelly.
We're going to linsky her, right?
We're going to cut her out from the— call her out from the herd and just hit her nonstop.
That's when all war broke out.
unidentified
That's when—that's when Breitbart— that's when you had to choose sides.
In taking on Fox, Bannon and Trump were inciting the kind of conflict Breitbart readers thrived on.
steve bannon
She is a lowlife.
unidentified
We need to chop her off at the knees.
Do not.
If you look at the comments section, these things are getting 10,000, 15,000, 20,000 comments.
steve bannon
Megan's the type for a quickie in the middle.
unidentified
The whole Trump, all the pepes, all these Trump guys were pounding in here.
It was scary at times.
megyn kelly
And Breitbart kept lighting the fire over and over.
And, you know, I had and have three young kids, really young kids, and the security threats were escalating.
Uh, and we were doing everything in our power to convey to them that they needed to stop.
It was, it was one debate question, just one debate question.
And he handled it fine.
You know, he did.
So get off of it.
And they couldn't have cared less.
steve bannon
Two hammers, Tony Lee and Matt Boyle.
Matt, uh, that was a moment of, uh, that's called the defining moment.
You remember well, I mean, you guys were magnificent.
Go ahead and tell us what happened.
matthew boyle
Yeah, well look, I'll never forget, I think the big story that I did was how, I think it was in August 2015, the headline was something like, Donald Trump has already won the asymmetric war with Megyn Kelly.
I'll never forget writing that piece.
I stayed up, I think for 38 hours straight or something, working on it, right?
Like writing it, writing it, writing it again.
You know, getting into the details of like the strategic battle back and forth between them.
It's interesting because, you know, it's funny you see Megyn Kelly now that she's not working at Fox.
She actually kind of a little bit different.
I mean, I don't know if you saw her tweet last night after what happened with the two, you know, Trump doing the Fox town hall and you had The other two knuckleheads, DeSantis and Haley over on the CNN debate, you know, and she was saying, I think, like, you know, Trump, there's a reason why Trump's going to win.
She seems to get it now.
But the point is that, so at least good for her.
But the point is, is that she was a weapon of Rupert Murdoch in the globalist establishment.
At Fox News and that globalist class, you know, they use the regular guy.
They use the regular person out there.
The Fox News is one of their tools that they use to manipulate people.
Fox is maybe one of the worst of the establishment media outlets because what they do is they, they are, their audience is conservative voters around the country and they're manipulating people into backing these establishment Republican candidates, and they couldn't let, you know, this guy they couldn't control, Donald Trump, win the Republican nomination in 2016.
And by the way, you see them trying to do it again this whole election right now.
They've been trying to prop up.
First they tried DeSantis, now they're trying Haley, right?
Like, they're doing everything they can.
Fox News is all in at the direction of the Murdoch family.
To try to stop Donald Trump again, because of what Donald Trump represents.
He represents the average guy, the regular Joe, having a seat at the table.
That's, again, what this is all about.
Everything for the last decade plus has all been about getting the regular Joe back in the room, back at the table.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Matt Boyle, the national political editor at Breitbart, the finest political reporter in his generation, and he's got a decade of hard-hitting stories to back that up.
The receipts are pretty voluminous.
When we come back, we're going to ask Matt his assessment of last night going forward, but we want to drill down into, he had a two or three hour interview with Alex Marlow, the editor over at Breitbart, and they've now, I think, released seven or eight stories.
They're just incredible.
We're going to go through all of it.
Short commercial break.
back with Matt Bohlen in just a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
steve bannon
you you You know, Matt, I would agree with you on Megyn Kelly, except I got to go back because last night I think it's just she's capitulation.
I got to go back to the interview she just did with President Trump.
And this shows you.
The difference of how Boyle goes about things, and people like, Megyn Kelly's a wise guy.
She'll always be a wise guy.
She tried to trap President Trump, you know, they gave her an interview after a couple of years, you know, she's begging for it, for a show, and as soon as she asks a couple of nice questions, then she's gonna ask you, I got you.
And that's just a way to put President Trump on the, yeah, yeah, dude, come on, man, it's so obvious.
This is, I want people to understand, the reason, and I think you're up to almost 10 articles.
About your interview, is your style, and I've seen this on the thing, 10 or 11, but you go in and ask substantive questions of the president, and he gives you thoughtful, substantive answers, and it makes for completely compelling reading.
Walk me through how you prep for Trump, because you're the last thing from a sycophant.
People gotta know something.
Boal's not only one of the smartest guys, he's one of the toughest guys I've ever met.
And this is why, when I ran Breitbart, I depended so much on Matt, and actually promoted him to National Political Editor, given his knowledge, but also his fight and determination.
When he says in the middle of that Megyn Kelly, and it really wasn't Megyn Kelly, it was really we're going after the Murdochs, because Ailes didn't even want to do this.
Ailes was directed by the Murdochs to do that, to try to take out Trump in the first debate.
Matt stayed up.
And Matt, it was about, you know, 38, it was three or four days you stayed up nonstop to write this definitive piece.
But that's the kind of guy you are.
Walk us through how you prep for going in and actually talking to the president and having these kind of conversations where we can get 10 articles out of it.
Each one's not just illuminating, but each one goes viral because you've gotten to the point, you've gotten to the heart of a certain topic that you're addressing with him.
matthew boyle
Yeah, so look what I'll do when I'm when I have it on the schedule.
So usually I know a couple weeks or so in advance that I'm going to be doing an interview on a certain day with with President Trump.
And so what I'll do is I'll call a lot of people that I trust and I will ask them, you know, what do you want to learn about, you know, and I'll kind of solicit input from Folks that work here at Breitbart, but also around the movement and you know other media outlets You know different politicians, etc.
And I'll try to put together a list of the best things.
I don't pre write out questions in advance what I'll do is I I go in with a notepad and it's basically a chicken scratch of topics, right? Like, so I've got like bullet points going in. I want to hit this topic.
I want to hit this topic. You know, and at the top are the, the major topics that I really want to go into with them. One of the things about interviewing Trump, and I've probably interviewed Trump more than any other reporter out there, maybe Maggie Haberman and Sean Hannity are like close to where I'm at with it, right?
Like in terms of the number of times I've interviewed them.
And I've done interviews with them that have been broadcast, like a video interview I did with them this summer, like on camera.
I've done radio interviews, but the best ones I think are the print interviews.
And the reason why Uh, is because, uh, he's a little bit more comfortable when the camera's not rolling and he knows that the audio isn't going to get broadcast or whatever.
Uh, and, and so what you can do is you can really drill down on an issue.
Uh, so you can follow up on a certain thing, right?
Like, so when you're, you're going down a line of questioning, you're really zoning in on, so, you know, he's got what he wants to say.
And then there's like a theme that, um, uh, we're, we're, We're trying to really zone in on a broader narrative, right?
So like good examples of that are, you know, the international populist story that we talked about, right?
Like we got off on a little tangent about Javier Mele and he talks about, you know, how Mele called him on election night in Argentina and thanked him, even though he had never spoken to Mele before.
And he's like, why are you thanking me?
And like, he says that Malay thanked him because he said that he won because of Trump's policies.
So then Trump turns to one of his aides in the room and goes, can you send him a bunch of MAGA hats?
Right?
Like the joke being that, you know, make Argentina great again, just like make America great again.
MAGA works for both.
Uh, but the point is that, um, uh, uh, you know, then we start following up again.
Okay.
But Mr. President, uh, you know, just like in the lead up to 2016, uh, you had Brexit, you had other international populist victories.
It seems like it's bigger this time, right?
Like, uh, you know, there's, there's signs of a conservative populist possibly going to win in Portugal.
Next year in the European Parliament elections, Austria later in the year, you know, and then, then he starts talking about how it's a bigger movement.
And then you can really follow up on it in a way that you really can't for a broadcast interview, right?
Like, so, um, the, uh, and then it turns into some of the better stories.
And I think the president understands that too.
We actually talked about that at the very end.
He even says that, uh, he likes doing this kind of a, style better as well, because he can go more in depth and we can flesh stuff out a little bit more.
So, you know, another good example is how we played out the Jack Smith interview, right?
He's got what he wants to say about Jack Smith and about immunity and so on and so forth.
But the real question that I was kind of trying to get at with him on that as the battle is playing out between Trump and Smith for this year is who's winning, right?
Like, who's winning the war?
And it took me a few questions to get to that headline of, you know, where Trump says that he thinks that Smith is losing.
And because we're asking about this filing and that filing and, you know, this detail and that detail and this move and that move.
It's moves and counter moves between the two of them on Trump's legal team and the Smith legal team.
But to really drill down on Who's really winning this fight?
And Smith is losing, right?
Like these cases might not actually even go to trial before the election because of the various things, the setbacks that Smith has faced at the end of last year and beginning of this year.
And we're seeing that stuff play out now and several of those things may go to the U.S.
Supreme Court.
But again, it takes sometimes maybe a little bit more digging into it to nail that stuff down with him.
And I think that this this format works really well So I'm hopeful that we'll do it again, and I think that we will um over the course of this year I'm looking forward to doing a lot more and He definitely He definitely should do it because a bunch of the stories have gone viral already How do you, talk to the audience about how, one of my issues with some of the interviews he does, the people just ask the same questions over and over again.
steve bannon
And it's like, you know, from today's news and stuff.
How do you form, because I could go through of these ten, and this is why I want Grace and Mo, I know we've bundled them, but I need everybody to read all of these stories from Matt Boyle.
Because they give you, I think, a unique Inside look of how President Trump thinks like for instance the blue states him him getting aggressive in the blue states and having that happen the rally of Madison Square Garden people's heads blew up your discussion of the Federal Reserve which Paul Krugman immediately afterwards did a column.
Hey Trump's coming after the Fed.
How do you think these things up that don't turn out to be the standard questions President Trump's... I realize other people don't know him like you do, haven't interviewed him, are very nervous, sometimes it's live, and so they just fall back on asking the same real questions people always ask, but how do you work through the topics that you know are going to engage his attention and come up with these brilliant things that pop out of nowhere like, hey, I think I'm going to have a big rally in Madison Square Garden.
matthew boyle
Well, by the way, so that's a really good example of one that I didn't plan for Trump to be talking about competing in New York, New Jersey, Minnesota, New Mexico, Virginia, going into this interview, right?
Like, he brought that one up on his own, right?
And he kind of brought it up as an aside, you know, in the middle of a conversation.
When you're interviewing Trump and it's not on camera, it's very much a two-way street conversation, right?
Like, you're asking him questions, he's asking you questions, Back.
It's one of the most underrated qualities of President Trump, I think, that people don't see out there and it doesn't get through in the media.
He's the best listener that I think in American politics.
Again, I always tell people, I've interviewed governors, senators, world leaders.
I've done Uh, international stories.
I've done so many stories over the years.
I've interviewed so many people.
It's not even funny.
Presidents, vice presidents, cabinet officials, so on and so forth.
I've never once had the interviewer, except for with Trump, ask questions back at me.
And Trump does it with everybody that he's talking to if it isn't like a broadcast interview.
And when he brought up during our conversation about the blue states it was kind of an aside and then when he did it then you know I know it's not on my list of you know that I have in front of me my notepad But I'm like, OK, wait, wait, wait.
You're saying you're going to make a heavy play for these states?
What do you mean by that?
unidentified
Right.
matthew boyle
Like, what are some of the things that you're going to do?
And that's when he says he's going to possibly rent out Madison Square Garden and do a rally there.
And then we talk a little bit about New York and he walks through how the left has really destroyed New York.
unidentified
Right.
matthew boyle
Like, you know, we hadn't had you know, we had obviously Mayor Giuliani in the 90s, in early 2000s.
But the You know, then you had Bloomberg and he wasn't that bad as a mayor.
I mean, he was, yeah, he was Bloomberg, but whatever.
But then you had de Blasio come along, right?
And de Blasio only first came in when Trump was still living in New York City and Trump was running for president.
And it wasn't until now that you really see the long-term effects of the socialist policies of Bill de Blasio, Big Bird, really come into effect now, and now New York's paying the price, right?
I mean, go to New York City now, it feels a lot different than New York City did in 2014, 2015, 2016, when I spent a lot of time there, and I know you spent a lot of time there too, Stephen.
In the lead up to the 2016 election, because that's where President Trump was based.
And President Trump has not lived in New York City since he was elected president, right?
Like, so, you know, that was, you know, what, eight years ago now?
So just about seven and a half years ago.
So President Trump's been gone.
So we've now seen the long term impacts of these leftist policies.
But you don't get into that discussion.
Until it kind of comes up as a one-off in the middle of the interview.
steve bannon
Exactly.
Exactly.
Hang on one second.
We need to take a little more of your time.
Short commercial break.
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unidentified
So, oh, it's true.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Uh Uh, Matt, uh, we can get you every day on Breitbart.
Where do people go to get your writings every day?
Where do they go for that?
matthew boyle
Uh, yeah, just breitbart.com.
So, uh, or I'm also on true social.
So at real Matt Boyle, I don't do the Twitter or the other social media, but, uh, true social is at real Matt Boyle.
unidentified
Do I remember you not doing Twitter?
steve bannon
We don't have time.
We'll pitch back on another time.
We'll talk about the Mad Bull ticket.
Taking a break.
It turned out to be a decade, but taking a break on Twitter.
Matt, also the radio show.
When is your... We did the start of the radio show on Sunday nights.
Bowls.
People gotta remember.
Bowls on every week.
Yeah, it's Saturday mornings on SiriusXM 125, the Patreon channel.
It's Breitbart News Saturday.
unidentified
It's 10 a.m.
to 1 p.m.
steve bannon
Eastern Time.
Then we got the Saturday show.
You host the Saturday show now.
Where do they go?
matthew boyle
Yeah, it's Saturday mornings on SiriusXM 125, the Patriot Channel.
It's Breitbart News Saturday.
It's 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern time.
So they can tune in there on SiriusXM.
steve bannon
Perfect.
Matt, I don't want to put you on the spot, but I will.
You know you're beloved by the MAGA movement and by the deplorables across the country, and actually throughout the world.
People read you.
Everywhere and people are always reaching out to me about what Boyle said, what Boyle's reporting is.
There's a movement a couple of months ago to draft you to run actually for the Congress.
People have told me they need fighters, they need smart fighters, and you're the perfect kind of guy to get in there.
Where do we stand on that?
matthew boyle
Well, first off, there were a lot of people asking me to do it.
I know you were out there asking me to do it.
There were many people here throughout Northeast Florida in the 5th District that were asking me to do it.
I've decided that I'm not going to this year.
The reason being is that we have a heck of a presidential election in front of us and there are very few people around the media that are willing to tell the truth.
And President Trump is going to need as many of us that are willing to out here fighting that fight on a daily basis.
That doesn't mean that I'm... First off, I've met a lot of great people throughout the district, and there is a great candidate running already.
Her name is Mara Macy.
She's been fighting back.
Her and her husband, who's in the military here, they've been fighting back against the VAX mandates.
They've been like the tip of the spear on that stuff, and she's fantastic.
She ran last time, but she had gotten in the race pretty late, and so didn't come up on top, but I think that People should watch her very closely.
But I've decided I'm not going to do it this time.
That doesn't mean I wouldn't do it possibly down the road.
We'll see.
But for now, I think I'm needed where I'm at.
And the movement needs me focused on telling the truth and helping lead our young reporters here at Breitbart heading into this critical election.
steve bannon
You know, that decision was also, you know, people, there were certain people, I'll leave their names unmentioned, that really wanted you to come into the White House on Trump's first term, but it was determined that, given the lack of really reporting we had, that understood the MAGA movement, that you were much more important on the outside.
If President Trump asked you, after his victory in November, to join him in the White House, would you be open to that?
matthew boyle
I, again, I would be open to anything like that.
I don't know.
I haven't had any conversation with President Trump about joining his team.
But if he ever did, you know, certainly I would consider it.
I would do anything I could to help the cause.
So wherever I'm best able to help the regular guy, again, that's my whole thing.
I want to help the regular guy have a voice in the room.
So if that's where the best outcome for that is, then I would be open to it, sure.
steve bannon
You broke a big story this morning.
I think this is exclusive.
Tell us about this.
This is another endorsement.
In fact, Penny Nance, as soon as we free her up, she's going to join us in a second from Concerned Women for America about her endorsement.
The new governor of Louisiana, endorsement for President Trump.
Pretty big deal, right?
matthew boyle
Yes.
So Jeff Landry, the newly inaugurated governor of Louisiana, has endorsed President Trump in 2024.
Obviously, the Iowa caucuses are just days away on Monday, so this is yet another huge endorsement.
for President Trump and it's maybe one of the biggest that he's had at the beginning of this year because Jeff Landry is fresh off a historic shocker victory in Louisiana last year.
Everybody knew Landry was gonna win the governor's race but the fact that he did it without a runoff really shocked the political world.
I think the left really kicked into high gear in places like Kentucky and Virginia after they were shocked by Landry's victory in October because everybody knew Landry was gonna eventually win but they thought they were gonna get their Democrat into the runoff and whatever.
Landry won the jungle primary night, right?
Like he shocked everybody.
And so extremely popular new governor of Louisiana and a huge endorsement for President Trump.
steve bannon
Matt, give us your assessment of last night of the town hall and the debate and your assessment of where this thing stands going into Iowa and particularly now with Chris Christie thrown in the towel.
matthew boyle
Yeah, I mean, look, I'm shocked Christy lasted as long as he did in the race.
I guess the field thinned a little bit last night with Christy's exit out of the race.
But last night's CNN debate, quote-unquote, I mean, I didn't even treat it like it was a debate.
You know, I run all of our debate coverage at Breitbart.
We didn't bring on the full-on team for this.
We're going to save that for the Iowa caucus night on Monday night.
Just because it's kind of the JV team.
And look, the only substantive thing I saw come out of the debate, and I was kind of flipping back and forth between the debate and the Trump town hall on Fox News, is that out of the debate between Haley and DeSantis was they were both, you know, to varying degrees talking about wanting to raise the retirement age and cut Social Security and Medicare.
Whereas Trump over on Fox was saying he's never going to touch that stuff.
And frankly, the fact that these establishment Republicans, the Paul Ryans of the world, And the, you know, this is the Rupert Murdoch's, all these types of people that what they want to do by going after the social security and Medicare programs versus Trump wanting to protect those programs is a huge part of the reason why Trump is so popular among Republicans.
Look, people paid into these their whole lives, right?
Like they took our paychecks, right?
Like go pull up your paycheck, right?
Like, and go look at the withdrawals that they take out.
The government takes out money, every paycheck for, Social Security and Medicare withholdings, right?
That's a promise that the federal government made to you, the American worker, that needs to be there at the end when you are ready to retire.
And the fact that they keep trying to move the goalposts, these DeSantis' and Haley's and Paul Ryan's and Mitch McConnell's and all these people want to move the goalposts on that, is a huge part of the working class rejection of the old guard establishment Republicans And a huge part of the reason why people are moving to new Republicans like President Trump, people like Senator J.D.
Vance in Ohio and these up and coming great candidates we're seeing around the country, the party is changing in a good way.
But a reason why they're leaving these failed Republicans in the past is a huge part of that is The so-called entitlement reform that you see these people push.
And then also war.
War is another major issue.
And again, all you really kind of heard from the Nikki Haley's and Ron DeSantis's of the world last night was that they were looking for more ways to get us into war.
Whereas President Trump was on TV last night saying that he's going to keep us out of the wars.
And he was talking about how he was the first president in modern history to not start a new one.
Right?
Like, so the war, And these promises that the federal government made to people are a huge part of the reason why.
And you don't hear people talk about it, right?
Like, you hear people talk a lot about immigration and trade.
That gets a lot of the focus.
And rightfully so, don't get me wrong.
But those other issues are major reasons why.
And that was kind of the takeaway of both of those events last night.
steve bannon
Are you concerned that Nikki Haley is going to be the repository of the donor class to at least continue on?
She's raising a lot of money even at the end of the month after New Hampshire.
Are you concerned about that?
matthew boyle
Look, I mean, how it all comes down is how President Trump does in the margins, right?
I'm fully confident that President Trump is going to win both Iowa and New Hampshire.
The question is by how much, right?
And if he wins by huge amounts on both of those races, It's going to be hard for anyone to really genuinely consider, continue their campaigns beyond New Hampshire.
The question is, you know, and certainly not beyond South Carolina later.
I mean, it could end all right there.
The donor class establishment, old guard Republicans, those people we're talking about, they want her, they view her as a vehicle to try to, and they want to extract his, I don't even think they think they're going to beat Trump at this point.
What they want to do is they want to extract as much as they can out of Trump when he's the Republican nominee for president.
So they think that Trump's going to be the Republican nominee.
What they want to do is they want to get as much as they can out of him on his way to the general election.
So whether that's a running mate, whether that's top surrogate placement, whether that's promises to the globalists that he won't touch this thing or that thing if he wins the White House back.
Which I fully expect him to do, by the way.
I think that he is way ahead of Joe Biden right now.
And when he's the Republican nominee, I think that this is way bigger than 2016, what's happening right now, entering 2024.
But the fact is, is that what this is about is about a power struggle, right?
Like they want to extract as much as they can out of Trump on his way back to the White House versus, and that's the story, the way to look at this story, right?
So Nikki Haley is a vessel to do that.
She's running against him for that entire purpose.
So if they can try to trip Trump up and maybe she stays in the race through Super Tuesday or in the next week after that, uh, you know, then the longer she, you know, they get to stay in and the longer it takes for Trump to wrap it up, the more they think they can get out of him later.
And so that's the question is, is can Trump wrap it up quick?
Uh, then Trump owes nobody nothing.
And Trump owing nobody nothing means he's a very dangerous man for the globalists.
steve bannon
Brilliant analysis, as always, Matt Boyle, National Political Editor for Breitbart.
Matt, social media, where do people get you?
The radio show's 10 a.m.
on Sirius XM, Eastern Standard Time on Saturdays, and you go to Breitbart.com and get all Matt's writing.
Where on social media, Matt?
matthew boyle
On true social, it's at real Matt Boyle, on true social.
And then again, Saturday mornings, 10 a.m.
to 1 p.m.
steve bannon
Keep fighting, brother.
Incredible.
Incredible series.
We're going to put them all up.
Make sure everybody gets them.
And I hope the president sits down with you shortly again.
Thanks.
matthew boyle
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Incredible.
That's real reporting right there from one of the toughest, smartest guys in this business.
Let's go to Penny Nance, Concerned Women for America.
Penny, give me your assessment of Iowa.
I think you're endorsing the president.
Give me your assessment of his town hall last night and in the run up to the Iowa caucus, ma'am.
unidentified
I think the president did a good job, and he, I think, spoke into the life issue in the way that people understood it.
He was very clear.
Where we are on a federal level is different than where we are on a state level, and Concerned Women for America has been on the very forefront of fighting for life, and we were very grateful.
I was very grateful to stand with President Trump.
On the stage at the March for Life, he was the first president ever to be willing to walk just down the street and be with hundreds of thousands of pro-life Americans on a cold and windy January day.
And then, of course, he gave us 270 constitutionalist judges and three Supreme Court justices, which did, as he pointed out, they terminated Roe v. Wade.
And gave us a completely different ability to advocate for life and to bring people with us.
And over half the states now have come toward our side on this issue.
Some have gone further left, but we're going to continue to work on that.
And now we really can.
The other thing, Steve, that you may not even be aware of is that President Trump was the first candidate to sign the CWA pledge to American women stating very clearly That there's only two genders, only women can have babies.
He actually laughed when he read that line.
He's like, I can't believe I have to sign a pledge that actually says this.
But also vowing to stand with women in policy and law.
You can see him, right?
Penny, can you hang on for one second?
We'll take a short break.
in law in the unique dignity of women including women's sports. We have a whole group of young women for America leaders that are down in Phoenix right now, today, advocating to Charlie Baker and NCAA.
steve bannon
Penny, can you hang on for one second? We'll take a short break. Penny Nance joins us in the other side.
Our host, Stephen K. Babb.
Penny, in 2016, one of the critical reasons, one of the reasons we won is the Life Movement came together in support of President Trump and had massive turnout, 2020 also, in his second victory.
But the games changed after Dobbs.
The left thinks that this is the weakest part that we have, and they're coming full force to bring the Taylor Swift crowd with them.
I think one of the biggest concerns people have is, is the leadership in the life movement coming together to make sure that we have an angle of attack on this?
President Trump, I think is doing a great job, but the question is at the Penny Nance level in the leadership here Is it coming together in one organized effort ma'am?
unidentified
I'm so sorry.
I've lost sound.
I don't know if you all can hear me.
steve bannon
Yeah, we can hear you, ma'am.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Great.
And I heard part of what you said, Stephen.
I think I understand.
Listen, you're right.
Life is a winning issue.
The day that Donald Trump got on stage and took on Hillary Clinton and told her he was not in favor of ripping a baby out of its mother's womb, he set the stage and people understood that he understood what was happening.
You have the consultant class that says, don't talk about it, run away from it.
The truth is, when you do what the president did, you win.
And Republicans have been hiding behind, I don't know, their mother's skirt tails on this issue.
We need to make sure that the American people understand what abortion really is and what it looks like.
They need to understand fetal development.
They don't have a basic understanding.
But the truth is, when you teach them, when you tell them at 15 weeks that a little baby has all of her major organs, eyebrows and fingernails, can hear and respond to her mother's voice and feels pain, Everybody's mind changes.
In fact, the majority of the American people are with us on the issue of abortion when you at least speak to them at just a limit, at some level, 15 weeks.
So that's where we have, I think, the most ability to get something over the finish line right now.
But we can do better, certainly, and have done better in many states.
And so it is our job as the pro-life movement to continue to work, to continue to advocate and educate, and it is absolutely a winning issue.
And we at Concerned Women for America will never let up until every baby is protected.
steve bannon
Penny, where do people get you on social media?
Where do they get you?
We're going to have you on the run-up to the March for Life next week, but where do people get you in the interim?
Where do they get you on social media?
unidentified
What websites do they get you on?
We're on Truth, we're on Twitter, we're on Facebook, we're on Instagram, and I am as well at PYNance.
So, we'd love, and at Concerned Women for Instagram and then CW4A on Twitter and also on Truth.
So, we would love everyone to follow you and I can't wait to be back with you, Steve.
Thank you for your great work.
steve bannon
Now, you're one of the leaders and one of the fire breathers in this and we appreciate you being the tip of the spear, ma'am.
Penny Nance endorses, personally endorses President Trump for President.
She's one of the leaders of pulling together the leadership of the Right to Life movement, who are some of the most powerful, dedicated people in our movement to make sure that they're on point because, hey, the left is coming on this one right now.
They think they got us on the run, and they don't.
Penny Nance, thank you.
Thank you.
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