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Dec. 27, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3274: A Boxing Day Special
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bound.
Warm New York Christmas welcome to the 45th, 46th, and 47th President of the United States of America,
President Donald J. Trump!
Raheem Kassam.
Raheem.
Where is Raheem?
What a good job you do!
Thank you, Raheem.
Great job.
raheem kassam
Welcome to the second hour.
You're in the War Room for this Boxing Day special.
I'm Raheem Kassam, Editor-in-Chief of TheNationalPulse.com.
We're going to be joined by one of our writers, Will Upton, in just a moment.
But I just wanted to make mention of that again.
I have been posting it every day on my on my Instagram my social media just just for the haters and losers especially a lot of the a lot of team DeSantis doesn't like that but did not like the shout out to the national polls from from President Donald J Trump but we were so honored by it and and I had no idea it was coming either by the way so I was I was sitting right at the front right at the rope line right underneath him
As he's doing his speech and he's giving shoutouts to a few people, shoutout to Paul Ingrassia and to Jack Posobiec, and he shouts me out.
And I was running around all over the place.
I'm quite involved with the New York Young Republican Club, so I volunteer, throw in where I can, to make sure that things run smoothly.
They have such a great team over there, they don't need me anyway, but you know what I'm like.
I'm a little bit of a...
A little bit of an interventionist in that sense, and stick my oar in sometimes where it's not wanted, I'm sure.
But just to help things run a little smoother, and if I see anything going on that I can help with, I tend to do that.
And I was running all around during that gala, just trying to help out.
As you heard, I gave the introduction to him, and then I come over to my table, I sit down at my seat, and It was just kind of catching my breath, catching up to it all.
And so I thought I heard my name.
And then I, so I stand up and I give him a, you know, thumbs up and a little salute.
Thank you.
And I sat down and went to the person sitting next to me.
I said, uh, I said, he did say my name.
That would have been pretty bad if he had said somebody else's and I'd got up and give it away.
But we, we got there in the, um, we got there in the, uh, in the clip after that, just to make sure I had to hear it again.
And now I like to hear it.
Every day it was such a great honor as well and as I said in the last hour Having had the chance to interview him having had the chance to sit on the plane with him and chat with him You know I I have been in this business now for quite some time as as by the way Has my next guest and I could I could tell you this there's there's pizzazz, right?
There's the x-factor there are the people that have and the people that don't and you look across the Western world at the moment and And I've worked for for Nigel Farage I was his senior advisor in the run-up to Brexit and you look across the Western world at the moment and you see it and unfortunately I think you see it on that GOP primary debate stage as well in these town halls that they've been doing to
There really are not that many people with that X factor, you know, Nigel being one of them, but Donald Trump, just massive, massive stage presence, massive global presence, and that was one of the things that I wanted to ask him, and I did ask him in the interview we did with him.
So if you haven't seen that yet, by the way, it's on Rumble, it's on YouTube, it's on X, it's on TheNationalPulse.com, make sure you check it out, that long interview.
They gave us a lot of time on that interview as well, so I was honored to do it.
And we're also going to be putting out The National Pulse's first print magazine in the first quarter of 2024 with a far longer written word piece by me about what exactly it was like and the little details that people miss.
How do you end up in that position?
What are your obligations?
You know, what is it like going through in the morning and standing outside that plane?
You know, I got to ride on Trump Force One and of course Secret Service comes by and you do the sweep and then, you know, all of these little details that are just fascinating quite frankly, if you haven't experienced it before and I hadn't.
So to do that was such a great honor. But I want to impart to you guys there what that's like as well. It's so important not just for contemporaneous interest, but it's important for history as well, right? There are so many people that are paid to besmirch Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. There are so many people who are out there whose sole focus is to tear it down and to poke holes in it and all of that. And I
think for the importance of history so that your kids and grandkids and great grandkids and further down the line understand that the counter point to all of that, that we get those things down in writing, we get those things down in print.
And like I say, if you want to sign up at thenationalpulse.com forward slash warren, you'll get that first print edition in the early part of next year.
I feel that about so many things, and one of the things that I want to do over the course of 2024, I like to have very lofty goals every year.
I don't call them resolutions, they're not resolutions, because I work on them all year round for the next year.
Sometimes I get to them, sometimes I don't.
We all know what that feels like.
But one of the things I want to do next year is build on that idea that I just said.
And actually have an entire book dedicated to that process, to that election cycle, to the man himself, to the team around him.
So I'm just trying to kind of find my way into getting some buy-in from Team Trump to do that book at the moment.
So if any of you have a tweet in you or a truth post or anything like that that could help nudge them in that direction and allow me to kind of play historian Then I encourage you to do so.
Don't bother them, by the way.
Don't harass them, but just an idea.
Let's bring one of our writers in from the National Pulse now.
Will Upton joins us.
Will, you've been around the political world for a very long time.
Just tell our audience about you and your trajectory real quick.
unidentified
Yeah, I've worked here in D.C.
for 15 years now.
Did a stint at the Treasury Department under President Trump.
Prior to that, I've worked in public relations and state level lobbying for almost half a decade.
raheem kassam
Yeah, and your philosophical trajectory, Will?
unidentified
Yeah.
You know, coming out of college, I was kind of more of the Ron Paul libertarian type.
But over the years, I've sort of become very much more in the populist mold, somebody that kind of admires the work of Pat Buchanan and President Trump, sort of woken up on the issues of trade and mass immigration, and the impacts that those have on non-American workers in the American economy. One of the big moments, I think, for the populist side of the GOP this year was
raheem kassam
the deposing of Kevin McCarthy.
And I've said it for a long time now, I never fully understood how a conservative from California could end up leading the GOP.
And I say could, not just in a logistical sense of how he got there, but actually how with any moral purpose, given the positions that Kevin McCarthy has staked out over the last several years of his career, how that was tenable.
And we of course saw him run up against that wall of how tenable it really is this year. So I want to talk to you about that. That was obviously one of the major moments of this year. And then in the next segment, we'll talk about some of the some of the other major moments, the indictments, particularly to get a little bit more, a little bit more political in this hour than in the last. But let's talk about that. Because when it happened, I genuinely couldn't believe Will, the level of hatred
coming at Matt Gaetz. I mean, we were we were with him reporting on his, you know, pseudo scandal, the fake scandal, the hoax scandal of his from from last year.
This was something entirely new.
There were, I mean, I don't have much respect for him now.
I mean, I've said this for years, by the way.
But I couldn't believe people like Kayleigh McEnany and others going on television and making the single most lurid and false allegations about Gates against the backdrop of all that.
They weren't attacking his politics.
They weren't attacking even what he was doing with Kevin McCarthy.
They were attacking him personally and making a lot of it up.
So take us through that period because for you, I mean, I got to tell the audience this before I throw it to you, Will.
For you, I mean, Will was all over it for the national polls.
He was, every single day, he was, I think the word giddy applies here, Will, at the processes that you were seeing, at the parliamentary processes that you were seeing playing out.
So talk to us a little bit about it.
unidentified
Yeah, so, you know, Kevin McCarthy was a California Republican, became Speaker mostly because he was a prolific fundraiser.
The guy had massive connections to Silicon Valley tech companies, major agricultural firms.
Of course, his district was in sort of the agricultural heart of California.
So this made him very appealing to sort of your rank-and-file member to sort of go along with for being Speaker, despite his politics, because he was able to raise just oogles amounts of money to help Republicans in their re-election efforts.
Now, unfortunately, he didn't have the sound politics to go along with being a Republican speaker.
And after caving on a debt limit deal, which seems to be kind of the final straw, combined with Also basically acknowledging we'd probably have to do a CR to fund the government, something he directly promised he would not do.
That kind of spurred Matt Gaetz to use this sort of archaic parliamentary procedure called a motion to vacate to oust McCarthy as Speaker.
Now, when McCarthy was first elected Speaker back in January of 2023, the motion to vacate rule was actually changed as part of the agreement to secure the votes he needed, so that it only needed one member to bring the motion. It lowered the threshold dramatically, which let Gates sort of make this move that we saw later in the year.
raheem kassam
Do you think that was always his plan? Or do you think if McCarthy had, well, had done what he had promised to do originally, that the Gates would have, and the others, it wasn't just Matt Gates, but the Gates and the others, would have kind of allowed him to continue on as Speaker?
unidentified
I think they would have let him continue on, but I think ultimately the reality was McCarthy was never going to fulfill his promise.
I think it's just the nature of the man.
And now he's out.
Yes, and now he's out.
raheem kassam
But he told us that he never stops fighting.
He told us that he never gives up, he never stops fighting.
He went in front of the cameras, he said that.
Remember, I think he tweeted or posted at Matt Gaetz, said, bring it.
And it got brought well.
And then the aftermath of that, I think, was the second time I've seen Will truly giddy, which was the picking of the new speaker, right?
And for days and days, we had no idea.
You know, who it was going to be, how we were going to get there, and lots of names, Scalise and Jordan and all of these guys.
Talk us through a little bit of how that all took place and what Will Upton's perspective was.
unidentified
Yeah, so this is the first time in American history a speaker was ousted via motion to vacate.
The last time the procedure was used was over 100 years ago.
It was used by the then speaker himself as sort of a show of power to sort of re-entrench himself by defeating his own motion.
But, you know, we were sort of in uncharted territory in Congress.
It took him about three weeks to select a new speaker.
And the entire time, Kevin McCarthy was actually operating behind the scenes, undermining the various candidates, in kind of an attempt to pave the way for his own return as speaker.
And especially, he was upset with the candidacies of Steve Scalise and Jim Jordan, Who McCarthy sees as two individuals that were responsible for sort of preventing him from becoming Speaker when John Boehner actually retired.
And he blames them for paving the way for Paul Ryan to sort of do an end run around him and become Speaker.
So right from the start, McCarthy was never going to let either Scalise or Jordan become speaker, which is sort of how we got into this weird position where a relatively unknown member to the general public, but for those who observe Congress, Mike Johnson, who's a sort of semi, has one foot in the conservative sort of policy camp with the RSC and the Freedom Caucus and another foot in the camp with the defense appropriators.
That's sort of how it paved the way for this guy to be able to kind of cobble together a winning coalition.
raheem kassam
Yeah, let's take a quick break there, Will, and we'll come back and talk more about that, more about the indictments that we saw take place over this year, talking about unprecedented There was a lot this year and there's going to be a whole lot in 2024, too.
We'll be right back with this War Room Boxing Day special.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
raheem kassam
Welcome back to this War Room Boxing Day special.
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So, Will.
Where we left off was what happened on Capitol Hill.
That great, as you say, unprecedented removal of a speaker.
What has the feeling been like in Washington D.C.
on Capitol Hill since that all happened?
I know Mike Johnson also has his detractors.
He's also placed a couple of missteps.
Let's say, let's be kind.
It's Boxing Day after all.
I'll be a bit generous with him.
A couple of missteps.
But what has the general mood been like before we dive into the indictments?
unidentified
It's been tense, still.
We saw there was an incident where McCarthy actually sort of kidney-punched Congressman Burchett, a Republican from Tennessee.
Speaker Johnson has had his missteps, especially in terms of sort of vocal support for Ukraine aid, though he's walked that back a bit and has tied it very heavily to the adoption of H.R.
2, which is the House Border Security Bill.
And he's also had some missteps in terms of...
You know, maybe allowing the FISA reauthorization to be wrapped into the National Defense Authorization Act and then a few other things.
But overall, there's also kind of, I think, a bit of contentness with it because he is a weak speaker.
He's not sort of one of these stronger speakers that dominates the Republican conference and sort of sets the agenda.
He's much more reliant on the committee chairman.
He's much more reliant on rank and file members.
And he isn't, and just by virtue of his lack of experience within leadership, he isn't sort of directing the conference on what to do.
raheem kassam
I remember one of the things that you said at the time was this thing about, and perhaps you can explain it for me as much as explaining for our audience, you said this thing about the Was it the defense appropriators and the necessity to have them on board?
What is that?
Why is that?
Why does a congressman who is being told he's going to be the next speaker, why does he need to have these faceless appropriators on board?
unidentified
Yeah, so there's an old joke that there's actually three parties in Congress.
There's Republicans, Democrats, and the appropriators.
The appropriators tend to act more as their own entity.
They are the ones who put together the federal budget every year and sort of direct funding, including earmarks, for other members as well into their districts.
So they hold a lot of sway and a lot of power.
The other thing, too, is for Johnson, the math worked out that he basically needed them on board.
He wasn't going to get the backing of the hardcore McCarthy bloc.
So in order to get to the 200, I believe it was at the time, 18 votes, To actually be elected speaker, he essentially needed the Republican defense appropriators to come on board and support him.
So a lot of speculation has kind of gone into, and it does appear to be true, that he cut a deal with them to basically at least attempt to bring a Ukraine defense supplemental to the floor, which he has done.
He's attempted to do it.
It just hasn't gone anywhere.
Yeah, yeah.
raheem kassam
Well, certainly lots to play for and unfortunately, it seems like lots to pay for in 2024.
Let's switch gears here a little bit and talk about this big indictment story.
We've got about five minutes here.
So let's dive into that.
Obviously, the biggest story of this year.
Will, I'll just ask you the obvious question.
In your lifetime, did you see a former president of the United States being not just indicted, but indicted for what is very clearly, very, very obviously, I would never imagine this situation.
of the legal systems of the United States against a former president?
unidentified
I would never imagine this situation. It's shocking is really not even an appropriate word for it, just how damaging this is to our Republic.
raheem kassam
It's such a great point because I think a lot of people have watched this show constantly in the weeds on the details of all of these things, possibly even more so than you or I. I know a lot of the war imposi, a lot of the audience are all day every day going through the documents themselves and and reading up.
Is there a way back from this?
Is there a way to stop this happening again?
What does that look like?
unidentified
I'm not sure there is, honestly.
We have this sort of habit in U.S.
politics that once a precedent is set, you sort of open up the floodgates.
It's why the Supreme Court, why the U.S.
courts in general are always so careful to sort of allow these sort of things, and usually to happen.
But so many people within sort of the liberal political sphere have developed extreme Trump derangement syndrome, that they're no longer sort of able to consider the implications or consequences of this lawfare that they've engaged in.
raheem kassam
You say that, but then, you know, you look at the way that Republicans kind of playing with the impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden, and it does feel a lot like kid gloves.
There's a lot more evidence of wrongdoing, there's a lot more evidence of compromise in the Biden family, the Biden crime syndicate, quite frankly, than there ever was with Trump and Russia and any of this stuff.
And yet, you know, it comes back to our last topic, perhaps in small part, But the machinations on Capitol Hill shouldn't preclude Republicans from actually going after the details of this guy.
And yes, yes, post McCarthy, we've had a little bit of expediency, but not too much, Will.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, Republicans on Capitol Hill have a tendency to be a bit feckless.
They sort of, for years, the GOP has been the party of not just limited government, but small government.
And they've shied away from actually using the power that the Constitution grants them, both in Congress and, you know, until Trump, they were afraid to use it in the White House for the most part.
There were a few Bush attorneys that argued for presidential authority, but, you know, in general, Republicans have almost been afraid of their constitutional powers.
Maybe we're just slow adopters.
I hope that will change, and I hope we will see the party get more aggressive.
But, you know, I think that is a fair point.
They have not responded to Biden with the same degree of vitriol as we saw the Democrats respond to Trump in both of their impeachments and then after his presidency as well.
raheem kassam
Yeah.
Well, we're delighted that you're on board, that you're at The National Pulse with us.
Let our audience know where they can follow you, how they can get to more of your work, and also, any final closing thoughts here?
unidentified
Yeah, you can read my stories at thenationalpulse.com.
You can also find me on X, formerly known as Twitter, at W-U-P-T-O-N, at WUPTON.
And that's the best place to find me.
raheem kassam
Well, I really appreciate it.
Will Upton, one of our great reporters and editor at TheNationalPulse.com.
Thank you for joining us here and walking us through these two massive stories from this year on this War Room Boxing Day special.
Will, thank you once again.
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unidentified
We'll be right back with this War Room special after this break.
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
raheem kassam
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He said.
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austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah.
raheem kassam
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Why are you doing this and why do you find so much gratification in it?
Over to you, Flackers.
austen fleccas fletcher
Absolutely.
Yeah, so the Fleckas Talks the Podcast, we started a couple years ago in 2021, about this time in 2021, and my channel originally started out as a man on the street reporter channel.
I was living in Los Angeles.
It was 2016-2017 with the Trump election, and I started doing man on the street reporting where I would interview people who were protesting Trump, And then all my friends in L.A.
said, hey, you can't do this.
You can't support Trump.
You're never going to get hired in L.A.
You can't be a comedian if you do this.
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And then after 2020, obviously the election didn't go how it should have gone, in my opinion.
There were definitely some issues there.
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Best friends.
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But yeah, right now we are just cranking the show out.
We have, I don't want to say the best takes, but you know, Rahim, you have the best takes.
Steve Bannon has the best takes.
Tucker Carlson has the best takes.
And I would love to one day be within that list of people with the best takes.
We got things correct really early.
We got Russia-Ukraine correct day one.
We got COVID correct the whole time.
Election discrepancies we got correct.
Ron DeSantis with his boots.
And the whole Ron DeSantis debacle, we got that correct.
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The audience has been growing.
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Wow.
And then, yeah, two times a week.
So Tuesdays and Fridays at 11 o'clock Eastern on my YouTube channel is where you find the show itself.
raheem kassam
Yeah, I have to be honest, Flaccus, I listen, I'm an avid listener, as you know, I've been an avid listener since before we partnered with you guys as well, and it's one of my favorites, if not my single favorite thing to listen to, because, and I do the audio, right?
I'm a podcast guy, I listen to it at the gym, you can do that, it's on all the podcast platforms as well, ladies and gentlemen, Flaccus Talks, but there's also It's such a visual element to this thing, right?
There's all these clips that you guys get together.
You have these hilarious segments.
I'm always wanting to pause my workout so that I can pull the video up and see exactly what it is you guys are talking about.
But one of the other things that really makes it must listen, must watch stuff, for me, is the spiciness of it.
It's like, you guys are un-cowed, you are unafraid, there are issues that come up that you raise, which a lot of people find to be third rail issues, especially recently I think one of the greatest examples was the Israel funding issue.
A lot of people have historically neoconservative interventionist takes on this and you guys attitude towards it I think is actually the balance take, which is, no we don't want Israel to disappear, but at the same time, hello, this country cannot just keep giving billions was the Israel funding issue. A lot of people have historically neoconservative interventionist takes on this and you guys attitude towards it I think is actually the balance take, right?
Which is, no we don't want Israel to disappear, but at the same time, hello, this country cannot just keep giving billions and billions of dollars away and you do it with this verve, you do it with this panache, that I just think, if my one sales pitch for you guys to the audience could be, you know, concentrate into one thing, it's that willingness to be, you know, I wouldn't even say unpopular because I think you guys actually take popular positions
that just other people are a little bit too afraid to do.
So kudos to you on that.
It's that bravery, I think, that makes the show, which is a comedy show at the end of the day, such required viewing.
austen fleccas fletcher
Thank you for saying that.
Yeah, we find that the takes we have, maybe they're not the most popular, or maybe certain groups need to avoid them for certain reasons.
We don't have any of that ceiling on our show, like the National Pulse, and you guys, you never tell me what to say or what not to say.
We've been pretty consistent the whole time, and we also find creative ways to say what we need to say without getting deleted.
So when we're talking about election fraud or something like that, I'll say, oh, I had this horrible dream last night that the Democrats were going to use mail-in ballots to send in millions of illegal votes for Joe Biden in my dream.
So when YouTube watches and tries to delete me, they kind of can't technically.
And then other times, too, we just make jokes about certain opinions that maybe if you delivered in a more straightforward way would get you deleted or have a Media Matters article written up about you or a New York Times piece.
But because we say it in kind of a way that we don't take ourselves too seriously and it's casual and it's in a joking manner, we kind of get away with it, too.
And what we've realized lately, especially, is You know, we touched a lot of the LGBT topics, the trans stuff, and we'll make jokes about people or about situations, and if the left wants to get mad about that, my response would be, oh, okay, yeah, you're right, that was a little rude, or maybe a little insensitive.
But for some reason, the left, when they, you know, cast these judgments and try to get people in trouble, they have to jump to the conclusion that you're the worst possible human, you're irredeemably horrible, you're a racist, you're homophobic, or whatever, When in reality, it could just be, oh, you didn't like that joke.
It was a little rude.
So we really try to balance it in a way where we don't get in trouble, but we don't hold back either.
raheem kassam
Yeah, I think that's so important.
I think one of the things that, you know, I watched that Tucker Carlson speech live in person at the APP Gala this year, and one of the things that always strikes me about Tucker is the happy warrior element to it.
Now, I am not that guy, as a lot of people recognize.
I am very much the angry warrior.
I am angry from the moment I wake up in the morning.
It's something to do with working for Stephen K. Bannon most of my adult life that has inculcated the anger within me, and I find it very difficult to separate from my day-to-day life and my day-to-day opinions.
But you guys have that, right?
And I remember Andrew Breitbart very much had that.
Obviously, as I mentioned, Tucker Carlson has that.
Nigel Farage very much has that.
He is very much the happy warrior.
Cannot stand when people take themselves too seriously, and we've often butted heads on that basis.
But I want to ask you this, because it's very rare that I get to interview the great flackers.
I want to ask you, when you are being light-hearted, when you are being Tongue-in-cheek about these issues that ruin people's lives, a lot of them, right?
The transgender stuff is ruining people's lives.
The election certainly ruined many people's lives.
When you have that comedic element to it, how difficult is it to sort of shove down the righteous indignation and to present with levity?
austen fleccas fletcher
It is difficult, especially after all these years of doing this.
I've seen so many clips.
I've seen pretty much everything that's been on the internet that's been viral or important over the last few years.
So it is difficult to bring that happy energy every time, but I kind of know that If I can keep my frequency high and keep my emotions in control, then people who are watching, they can get more out of it than if I'm mad.
We have enough people who are mad, delivering things right down the barrel of the camera with a stern look on their face.
So if I can offer the lighthearted version of it, I think that'll do more good in the long term.
So that's kind of how we've approached it.
Uh, it doesn't really do us any good to be mad, and like, we need certain people to be mad, for sure.
Like, there's different characters, and they all play different roles, uh, you know, in this sphere.
Uh, but...
For me and Richard Ratboy, we know that ours is comedy first and it kind of lets people not feel like the world's about to end because we are very optimistic even when things are at their worst after the 2020 election or with COVID.
There's always a light at the end of the tunnel because once there's no hope and then we can't be optimistic anymore, that's kind of where our opponents and the devil and our enemies want us.
So we're delusionally optimistic to the point where we're kind of You know, almost like schizo-ing and trying to figure out what's going to happen next.
But we're always very, very optimistic.
And I think a big key with this is we know a lot of people who don't have the same social circles we have.
Like for myself, you know, Richard Rathboy is my best friend.
I hang out with DC Drano.
I have a typical liberal from Instagram.
He's another great friend of mine.
So everyone is so politically involved and on the Right side of you know the issue but a lot of people don't have that they have to keep their mouth shut at work They have to keep their mouth shut in school They don't have a social circle full of friends that think like them so for them when they tune in twice a week It's kind of an opportunity for them to just hang out with the boys and have a good time and laugh a little bit and see what's going on and pick up some news along the way and
So that's the kind of role we're trying to provide for people, is be like your social network, your friend group that a lot of people don't actually have.
raheem kassam
Your Floridian Algonquin roundtable there, I think, right?
Flekas, tell the audience where they can follow you, where they can sign up, what the URL is, so on and so forth.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yep.
So on all social media, it's at FLECCAS, F-L-E-C-C-A-S.
On YouTube, it's FLECCASTALKS.
We have a new episode every Tuesday and Friday at 11 a.m.
Eastern, a public episode.
And then we also have bonus land episodes, 30-minute bonus land episodes after every public episode at FLECCASTALKS.com.
We're very happy and grateful to be partnered with the National Pulse.
No better team out there, in my opinion.
raheem kassam
and the uh... the feeling is more than mutual uh... flakas and say uh... say hello to will will get into this another time i want to hear the origin of richard ratboy but we'll get into that another time uh... flakas flakastalks.com thanks so much for joining us here on the war room boxing day special thank you rahim all right ladies and gentlemen just one more segment to go Hold on tight.
We've got, uh, let's talk about some of the predictions that we made over the course of this last year and what we can all be doing as we enter 2024.
To frankly, somebody else put it best, make America great again.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
Ron DeSantis to 10% midsummer.
Ron DeSantis by 10% midsummer.
You're wearing the same shirt right now you were in that video, weren't you?
raheem kassam
I haven't changed.
unidentified
You actually haven't changed at all.
So you said Ron DeSantis to 10%.
But let's go through this.
Ron DeSantis to 10% by mid-summer.
You didn't say fall, you didn't say winter, you didn't ambiguously state this.
You actually put a time frame on it.
Ron DeSantis to 10% by mid-summer.
jack posobiec
Tell me Rahim, as we woke up this morning, one of the big things that we always do, I've noticed that you've gotten to do it, I do it, Trump does it over on True Social, we go and check the polls, we go and check the latest numbers.
unidentified
What are the latest numbers today?
Ron DeSantis on 10% mid-summer.
Okay, so walk us through.
What is the poll that has this?
Okay, we've got it up there today.
And this poll, not only is it Ron DeSantis 10%, it's actually Vivek Ramaswamy 11.4%.
Rahim, how did this happen?
And not only that, how did you know that this was going to happen?
raheem kassam
Well, look, there are a couple of things you need to bear in mind here.
The first thing to bear in mind here is you always look at the sample sizes.
There's a 2,000 person poll, which puts it at about double the sample size of most of the daily tracking polls that you get.
You then look at the margin of error.
It's the margin of error, I think, I'm just going to look it up here very quick, make sure I get the number right, 2.6%, which is smaller than most of your daily tracker polls, which have margins of error between 3.6%, 5% sometimes even.
But then the third thing actually takes away a little bit from the polls, you know, necessary credibility in this area.
unidentified
That is to say that the polling company that did this poll, I don't know how you pronounce Signal, I guess, but it's spelled weird.
raheem kassam
You have to bear in mind that Signal's VP, Brock McCleary, is actually a pollster for the Vivec campaign.
So Vivec's numbers, you know, you've got to take with a pinch of salt.
The trajectory is correct.
What we've been seeing in terms of the shifting of momentum really, really deeply away from Ron DeSantis since he announced his campaign tracks with this.
And then the other thing you have to bear in mind is you're going to start seeing more data coming out like this.
Remember, we were mid-twenties Uh, then slipped a little bit, then into the teens, then 15, then 12.
Now we're at 10.
It keeps going further and further down.
So, you know, you can, you can have some skepticism about this as, as I do with every data set that comes out, whether it's attached to a campaign, a pack or, or independent, and there's no real such The one and only Rahim Ghassan.
polling companies. Maybe, maybe, you know, you would say Rasmussen is the closest thing you'll get to that. But you'll start to see this number creep up more and more, and you'll start to see, I think, single digit, midget Ron within, you know, within a couple of weeks, maybe a month's time.
unidentified
The one and only Rahim Ghassan. Rahim, thanks for being with me.
raheem kassam
Thank you for having me back.
I suppose if I'd got things wrong, I wouldn't have come back.
unidentified
Oh, well, let me tell you something.
You keep getting it right, and we're like, oh, we text back and forth.
And it's like, OK, he predicted this.
I mean, Twitter's even noticing.
They're like, oh, this is what Rahim said.
Exactly what's going to happen.
So you were on, and you predicted that everything, basically, that we're seeing happen in the primary and about DeSantis' campaign, you predicted it all.
It's just coming true.
It's happening in real time.
raheem kassam
They've known for days and days now that this place is going to fall.
The Russian government's going to call it in a matter of moments, right?
But the interesting thing is they keep talking about spring offensive, spring offensive, spring offensive.
There's no spring offensive.
Let me tell you something.
There is no, it's, it's, and here's the tell on that one.
The Biden government, the Biden regime has gone back and said that they are devaluing the weapons that were sent over there in the first place so that they can do some financial jiggery-pokery and give more without giving more.
That's how you know that they are not ready for a spring offensive.
Well, a couple of those clips that we pulled, and I want to thank the great team at the National Pulse.
Thank Anne Lutey for pulling those clips for us for this War and Boxing Day special.
Just a couple of what we call the hashtag Raheem was right clips there.
And the reason I wanted to play those for you as well was because I do want to use this moment to kind of showcase what we do, right?
A lot of people think, oh, you know, the National Pulse, Raheem Kassam, that whole operation over there is just kind of a Another one of these conservative news sites.
That's not what we're really trying to do.
What we're trying to do, and I think what we've shown prowess over the last couple of years, you look at a lot of the Fauci stuff when Natalie Winters was back working for us, a lot of the Covid stuff, certainly a lot of the CCP stuff, and over the last year you saw Ron DeSantis and that whole charade, Ukraine, the spring offensive, I think I said that back in April on this show.
No, it wasn't going to happen, it wasn't going to work out.
We have developed, you know, I've worked in this area, political, communications, all of that now for over a decade, well over a decade, and we have learned to develop this kind of antenna for BS.
Quite frankly, it's why we are the first, really, to call it out every single time.
Jan 6th, the National Pulse was the very first news outlet to walk through the timeline and completely debunk what they were saying.
And look at this couple of years later.
Everybody's being forced to come out and say, yeah, well, actually, you know, maybe it wasn't quite the way it happened.
I mean, credit.
Credit to Vivek Ramaswamy for standing up on the debate stage in a CNN town hall and saying these things, but we were saying these things years ago, and that's really what we're trying to do.
We are an early warning system, right?
It's, it's, it's, I don't know, Rahim's radar, the great team, Jack Montgomery, Sandy St.
John, everybody that makes it possible, our partners, we work with a lot of partners, we work with some wonderful partners making that Trump interview happen at Mar-a-Lago just the best film team the Logan Circle group who produced that for us and also all the producers and the production team and the management team over at Real America's Voice the studio producers here Cameron and and everybody else and they they everybody is a part of making this thing work
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For them, it's the regime, it's the constant lie, it's the big lies, over and over again.
And so on this Boxing Day, I suggest to you, uh, I submit to you, uh, that supporting everything that you see before you, whether it's through the War Room, whether it's all the guests that come on here, um, the sponsors, uh, thenationalpulse.com forward slash war room to sign up, remember your first month is free, that these are things that are imperative so that we can do more of that, right?
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Before the New York Times is ready to admit it.
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