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Episode 3273: A Boxing Day Special
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
Warm New York Christmas welcome to the 45th, 46th, and 47th President of the United States of America, President Donald J. Trump!
Thank you.
The President of the United States of America, President Donald Trump.
Rahim Kassam.
Rahim.
Where is Rahim?
What a good job you do!
Thank you, Rahim.
Great job!
raheem kassam
Here I am, back in the driver's seat.
Welcome to a very special War Room edition, a Boxing Day special, traditional the way we used to do it.
Gosh, for many, many years now, from the old Breitbart News radio show, right until the beginning of the War Room, War Room impeachment, War Room pandemic, the Boxing Day special, I think, goes down in history.
And I'm very, very appreciative for all of you joining us on what is a very special day, the day after Christmas Day, Boxing Day, as we call it in the country where I'm from, and we'll get into a little bit about that. I know a lot of you have learned over the last several years what Boxing Day means, what it means to me especially, but we'll get into some of that and some more specifics around the Christmas period, especially concerning
how much we're forgetting, actually, in the in the miasma of all of the commercialization, all the sales, all the travel.
I think we forget too easily sometimes some of the more traditional elements of the Christmas period.
I hope you are all Well fed and well rested.
I certainly know that over Christmas I tend to indulge just a little bit more than usual.
So I hope we can hold your attention.
I hope nobody's too sleepy from all the turkey.
We've got a great show lined up for you today.
We've got some of the special guests over the course of the program from my outlet, The National Pulse, and over the next two hours I'm going to try and say The National Pulse as many times as humanly possible.
But I'm appreciative also for all of you guys out there who already make The National Pulse your day-to-day reading diet and who have chosen to sign up to support the real news operation that we are building there.
Had to open with that clip of President Donald J. Trump walking into the room at the New York Young Republicans, I think, 111th annual gala.
and what amazing, amazing work that organization does, not just by the way against the headwinds of living in an extremely far-left, increasingly dilapidated city run into the ground by the progressive left, run into the ground by the globalists, but also because the New York Young Republican Club isn't exactly popular amongst the political right in New York, the
establishment political right in New York either. So even against all of that backdrop, they managed to pull off something that was really quite extraordinary. Downtown Wall Street, Cipriani, the 45th, 46th and 47th President of the United States, as you heard me introduce him to the room at the top of that segment there.
And then just an entire night's worth of not just revelry, but also policy, and also networking, and also pulling together, I think, the apparatus that really needs to be pulled together.
If you are serious about taking back some of the parts of your country that you may have thought originally, ah, we'll just let them go.
They're not worth it.
They don't want to be saved.
You can say that very, very easily about some of the nicest parts of this country, some of the most culturally impactful parts of this country.
But if the NYYRC, and especially given Donald Trump's presence there, if he believes that somewhere like that can be saved and I think it's worth putting our shoulder to the wheel on all of those things. Ten points is the difference between Donald Trump and Joe Biden in New York State and I don't think that's anything to sneeze at. I don't think any of the previous Republican candidates would have even got anywhere close. I don't think anybody else who proclaims candidacy in this primary and stands up there
claiming that they can be better than Trump somehow would come that close in somewhere like New York. No, I think it is the sheer force of will that is Donald Trump and the mugger movement that is creating a much more stable environment for people to come out as conservatives and come out as America first types and say even in New York City, even in New York State, even on the left coast we have had enough of it.
I believe that some people say a skin full of it, right?
And that's what you'll see. That's what you saw as almost as iconic, I think, as the escalator ride was the walk into Cipriani that night to say, no, you know, you may be persecuting me in this city, but I will still turn up with my entourage and we'll have a thousand people in that room cheering on President Donald J. Trump.
And I have to tell you this as well, a pitiful and paltry
presence from any protesters outside Cipriani that night of the gala because I think a couple of things right number one you have to take into the account the logistics it was a freezing cold night and we know that the lazy types don't want to stand out there in the freezing cold shouting at people like me a couple of them did but it wasn't the throngs and throngs and I think the reason behind that is so many New Yorkers I've been spending a lot of time there over this past year so many New Yorkers Quietly.
Whether you're sitting next to them at the bar, whether you're talking to them in the metro or talking to the cab drivers or what have you.
Say to each other, you know, the country was kind of better with Trump.
You know, they whisper these things to each other in hushed tones.
And I've seen it happen a number of times.
I mean, the number of people that come up to me and go, I know what you do.
I work at, you know, I won't out these people, but you know, big hedge fund types or big media types, corporate media types.
And they say, yeah, you know what?
I think you guys might be right about this.
And I think that is something that we are increasingly Experiencing.
I'm sure you all have your own stories about that.
Where maybe your neighbors, maybe family, maybe friends, they might even be a little bit embarrassed about it, right?
Because the political class and the media class has told them for years now that it's an embarrassing thing.
You must be a low IQ rube if you believe in Donald Trump or you believe in America first.
But increasingly, I find that people are willing to be more honest about not just what this country looked like under Donald J. Trump, but actually what the world looked like.
Uh, under Donald J. Trump.
And, you know, something that's really struck me over the last... I'm just sort of doing this off the top of my head now, but something that's really struck me over the last six months, eight months...
is a lot of the abuse that we've taken, especially from GOP primary candidates and their fans on the internet.
You know, they said, oh, of course, you know, you just you're sick of fans.
You can't say that anything is wrong.
You can't point out when anything hasn't worked.
That is fundamentally incorrect from this very table and from this very studio.
Especially the viewers of this, who are long-term, long-time viewers of this show, will know when something ain't right, we are the first people.
The National Pulse, The War Room, and others, the first people.
To call it out.
But what we're not going to do is delude ourselves into believing that there is another superstar, another megastar, that can propel the America First movement in any way shape or form close to what Donald Trump has done.
And I think it takes actually humility to recognize that.
Because people, and I won't name any names, but they know who they are.
People are very quick to say, I could do that better.
I would have written it differently this way.
I would have walked out to this different music.
I would have spent 30 seconds more shaking hands.
I would have spent two days more in Iowa.
I wouldn't have flown here or there for the day.
I wouldn't have had, necessarily, Raheem Kassam go and interview the former President of the United States and the future President of the United States.
Everybody is a critic.
But I think again, if you look at the team that he has around him, and you look at a lot of the machinations that they have to deal with on a day-to-day basis, court cases, showing up for rallies, caucus events, speeches, all of this stuff.
I am genuinely of the belief that the well-oiled machine is precisely that, and it is precisely where it needs to be.
And I think Donald Trump, by the way, has shown that across a number of instances over the last few months, especially when it has come to the life issue, especially when it has come to talking about abortion.
Increasingly, what all the data is showing us and what all the election results are showing us is that, yes, Americans are in favor of life, but they are also in favor of that being talked about in a certain way.
They are fair-minded people, they understand people go through things in their lives, and while the ultimate goal, of course, is that no child is ever murdered, Americans understand that because you've come here from a 50-year-long process, That Dobbs ain't gonna be the be-all and end-all of it.
You actually have to have these conversations at a state level.
You have to have these conversations at a dinner table level.
They're moral conversations.
They're conversations that your family care about.
They're conversations that communities care about.
And I think Donald Trump understands that, as I don't think anybody can object to.
The single most pro-life politician in action in generations.
And that's why I opened With that clip of me, I was very lucky and a great thank you to the New York Young Republicans and Gavin Wax and the whole team there to let me, you know, be the voice of God, as they say in media circles, to introduce President Trump to the room at Cipriani that day.
And it was also a great honor to be called out by President Trump from that stage.
And as if that wasn't enough, you know, to say that made my year, obviously did.
But there was another moment.
Uh that I think that really defined this year uh for me and for a lot of us I think who have who have battled the same battles now for years and years and years and that was being given the opportunity to interview him and to speak to him one on one and really Try to get to the bottom of not just where we're going politically over the next year, but really try to get more in the head of President Donald J Trump.
And I want to just roll, if we can, the trailer from the National Pulse interview with President Donald J Trump that aired just a few months ago.
Let's roll it.
unidentified
Mr. President, thank you so much for joining us here on The National Polls.
Thank you.
raheem kassam
Can I ask you about Mike Pence?
He's being a bit of a dick about you at the moment.
Desanctimonious.
When you first used it, a lot of people kind of didn't get it.
unidentified
They love it now.
People don't care whether or not he was loyal to you.
I said, I think it does matter.
I think most of the media is quite hostile towards you.
The globalists, who knows why?
They put everything against De Sanctimonious, and he's not a talented person.
Our country's going down, and if we don't win this election, if this election's not won by us, I don't think our country makes it.
raheem kassam
Who do you miss the most?
unidentified
My other brother, Robert.
I was very close to passed away two years ago.
He was so proud of the fact that I became president.
Do you look in the mirror and see, you know, the most famous man in the world, or have you just always been the same guy?
I'm the most famous person in the world.
raheem kassam
Well, I am sure that some of you can guess what the answer to that last question was, but it was a real...
Tree is not the right word.
It was a real honor to be sat in that room at Mar-a-Lago and to talk to that man about not just again what's going on in politics, but what's been going on in his life, you know, who he misses, the people who are passed on, the things that kind of impact him.
And I got the chance also not just to do that, but also to ride on Trump Force One on the plane with him a couple of weeks prior to that interview and really talk in an off the record sense about who he is and what he's thinking about, what his day to day routine is like.
And we'll talk about all of that over the course of the next couple of hours here on this War Room Boxing Day special.
In the next segment, I'm going to bring on one of our excellent writers over at TheNationalPulse.com, that's Jack Montgomery, and we're going to talk a little bit about, you know, why is it called Boxing Day?
And what does Boxing Day mean for us?
What should Boxing Day mean for you?
There are lots of parts of the Christmas period that are, I think, left a little bit by the wayside, and we're going to try and re-inculcate those things into popular consciousness here.
So make sure that you're going to thenationalpulse.com forward slash War Room.
You're signing up.
We do wonderful pieces of analysis written by great writers like that all the time.
Stick with us.
Jack Montgomery joins us right after this break.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
raheem kassam
Welcome back to the War Room for this Boxing Day special hosted by yours truly, Raheem Kassam, Editor-in-Chief of TheNationalPulse.com.
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Let's bring in our first guest of this Boxing Day special now.
Jack Montgomery is an old friend of mine.
He's a writer of ours at The National Pulse.
He was with us in New York for that Young Republicans Gala.
It was his first trip, I believe, to the East Coast of the United States of America.
Jack, thank you for joining us on the show today.
unidentified
It's a real pleasure to be here, Raheem, and it was a pleasure to be on the East Coast with you for the gala as well.
raheem kassam
Yeah, I just wanted to ask your impressions of that because obviously it's different where we're from, it's different in Europe.
It's certainly a way away from European politics and the small-scale nature, I think, that you and I have both lived in Westminster and in conservative party politics in the United Kingdom.
Just give the audience your impressions.
You were front row In front of the, as I say, 45th, 46th and 47th President of the United States.
Any takeaways?
unidentified
Well, in the United Kingdom, top level politics, national conferences attended by the Prime Minister and all his ministers are really comparatively small scale affairs.
You know, it's Bournemouth Conference Hall, it's little village hall meetings.
This was a massive event and it was put together by Gavin Wax and an all-volunteer team at the New York Young Republican Club.
It was really an amazing achievement.
And the impression, my strong impression of Trump himself when I was there was just how much he has left in the tank.
You know, you see some comments from some quarters that maybe he's not who he was in 2016.
Maybe he's lost a step.
He went for two hours.
He was feeding off the energy of the crowd.
The crowd was feeding off him.
I can tell you, as we closed in on 11pm, I was starting a flag.
You know, I was feeling a little tired.
And he looked like he could have kept going all night, all night.
So I'm afraid there's going to be no respite either for his GOP rivals or for the Democrats in the coming year.
It's all still there and he's rearing to go.
raheem kassam
Yeah, it's such a great point, Jack, because I think, you know, so many, so many weird and unfair allegations get leveled at him.
You know, the guy is pushing 80.
And like you said, just to underscore that, I think I would join you in saying that he clearly stepped off that stage with probably more energy Then you and I put together at that point in the evening, right?
And that is just something extraordinary to behold.
And ladies and gentlemen, you do not have to take our words for it.
I always say that, right?
Don't take our words for it.
Go and look at it for yourselves.
If you haven't seen that speech from that night yet, it's available on the internet.
You can go and find it.
Go and watch every single second of it.
You know, like Natalie Winters, I am a two times, two and a half times speed viewer and listener of most things.
If you go and watch that, you will want to slow it down.
Just A, so you can keep up, quite frankly, because he's jumping around from topic to topic.
He's so good at that, obviously.
But also to internalize the things that he's saying, because he got into a lot of topics on that night, Jack, that I think He doesn't usually get into when he's standing on a stage in Iowa or when he's doing a rally speech or anything like that.
And I think that was a real honor and a real treat for all of us there.
You got to see a little bit more than just politician Donald Trump doing a stump speech.
You really got to see him enjoying himself up there, right?
unidentified
Absolutely.
It almost felt as though he wasn't quite expecting it to be what it was.
I think the line was that it turned out to be a black tie rally.
I think he'd perhaps been expecting a smaller-scale affair and a smaller-scale speech, but as he got up there and he saw how big it was and how enthusiastic people were, it really, I think it fuelled him up, energised him.
And so much of the speech was completely off-script.
A lot of it directed to Steve.
You know, shall we go off-script a bit here, Steve?
Shall I tell the story, Steve?
It was incredible, really funny.
Just such a strong rapport with the entire crowd, with the room.
raheem kassam
Yeah, yeah, no, it was such an excellent moment.
Jack, I really appreciate your thoughts on that.
And, you know, I always find it interesting to bring in people who are not from the United States, like myself, who are subject to these grand occasions in American politics.
I still remember being in the room at the At the RNC convention in 2016 and watching the, you know, watching the ticker tape fall from the sky.
It almost just felt completely and utterly surreal.
It felt like being in a movie.
And I just like to bring the audience into those moments because they are such historic occasions.
I mean, I think that between Tucker Carlson's speech at the American Principals Project Gala two nights before the Young Republican one, and then listening to Donald Trump, I think I probably had You know, I'm 37 now, so sometimes I forget, and I think, oh, you know, all my formative years are in the past.
I think I had one of the most formative political intellectual weeks of my life as a result of those moments.
And credit to those people, those organizations, and those men up there giving those speeches.
Um, who could make that happen?
Jack, I wanted to bring you on to talk about the importance of, uh, the traditional Christmas period and the traditional things that often get, uh, left by the wayside nowadays when we, when we, when we celebrate Christmas, you know?
And I think we try our best To give it the due reverence for Christmas' position, not just as a time away from work, and not even just as a time with your family and friends, but as explicitly as a religious time, explicitly as one of the most important religious periods that you can have, and we forget it so easily.
So you have this analysis up at thenationalpulse.com in our analysis section.
We only publish the best things.
Jack, just before we go to a break, give us like a minute and a half of a preview, and then when we come back from the break, we'll get into it in detail.
unidentified
Well, one of the things a lot of people forget when it comes to Christmas is that there's more to Christmas than just Christmas Day.
You know, a lot of us will be familiar with the nursery rhyme, you know, on the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me, and it goes all the way out to 12.
But now, even among conservatives, a lot of us don't quite recall what those 12 days are.
Perhaps we think it's the 12 days leading up to Christmas.
But that's not really the case.
Christmas Day is really the start.
It's the start of Christmastide.
And that includes a whole range of different feast days and traditional holidays leading up to Epiphany, sometimes known as Little Christmas or Three Kings Day, which is still observed in some parts of Europe, although even there to a much lesser extent than perhaps it was in the past.
And I think, you know, for Conservatives who are so keen that people remember the reason for the season and that we remember our customs and our traditions and traditional Western culture, that we take the time to sort of school ourselves in what that involves, what that entails, and try maybe to, if not hold on to, then maybe revive some of the Traditions that are fading away a little.
raheem kassam
Yeah, I think that's right, Jack, and I think it's such an important thing.
When you first pitched that to me as the idea for an analysis on the site, I think, at least mentally, Jack knows, by the way, and we'll ask him in the next segment what it's like to work for me as well, but Jack knows that sometimes my response can be a bit muted, but at least internally I jumped at the idea of that because I just think I find the flaws in myself, in that regard.
And like you say, we have Christmas Day, and we work ourselves up to Christmas Day, but so much of the season otherwise is left for other things.
And we're going to bring those things back.
We're going to make Christmas great again, right here on the War Room Boxing Day Special.
We'll return with Jack Montgomery, Raheem Kassam, and more of this Boxing Day Special in just a moment.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
raheem kassam
Welcome back to this War and Boxing Day special broadcasting from Capitol Hill, your nation's capital where I am.
I actually recently toured around an old friend of mine, an old Scottish friend of mine from back in European politics days.
Gosh, that feels like Such a long time ago.
Jack, your impressions of your time in New York and your time in Washington, D.C.
A lot of this audience will know them as absolute hellholes.
A lot of this audience wouldn't set foot in the Capitol anymore, quite frankly, especially not after the occupation of the Capitol after the last election.
But tell us, just very briefly, before we jump back into the Christmas period, your perspective on it all.
unidentified
Well, of course, I've got strong family ties in America, and I spent some time there growing up fairly regularly, but always on the West Coast, never on the East Coast, and never in a great city like New York or Washington.
Now, of course, they do have that hellhole reputation now, but for me coming there as an outsider and looking past maybe some of the rough edges, what was really striking was the sort of vision of American greatness, you know, really what was still there.
You know, even up on a new building like the Freedom Tower.
You know, we went up there together.
We had a look down on New York.
You know, you could see old New York, the Chrysler building, the Empire State, the incredible memorial at Ground Zero.
And there was so much energy, so much life still in that city.
And in D.C.
as well, you know, the beautiful neoclassical government buildings, the great shrine to Lincoln, the beautiful painted sort of rotunda inside the Capitol building.
And it shows, you know, it really shows you there's so much here in America, there in America, the flagship of democracy of the West that's worth saving and worth preserving.
And it's just so important that really everyone, whether you're in Britain or Europe, or if you're a Western man, anyone who believes in the West, you need to want America to succeed.
You need, if you can, to help to fight for it, because we need it.
We really do need it, you know, and it would be a terrible loss to civilization if it faded away as sadly it's maybe been fading in recent years.
raheem kassam
Yeah it's such a great point and and you know a lot of people ask me what are you doing here?
Right?
What is your involvement in America and American politics?
And I usually give the same answer.
Look, you know, I grew up in a declining United Kingdom.
We watched it happen at the same time, Jack.
We watched our communities disappear away from us.
We watched our politics being wrestled away from us by globalist corporates.
And, you know, I almost feel I always feel a little sense of the Paul Revere about it, right?
Raheem running through America saying, the corporates are coming, the corporates are coming.
And I think so much has been done, I think, to wake people up to a lot of what's been going on over the last several decades, compact into the last few years.
But there's a long way to go.
And you talk about The architecture, you talk about the imagery.
There's a reason that they try and capture these institutions, right?
There's a reason they lock down the Capitol.
With all of the beauty inside and Statutory Hall and all of this stuff, there's a reason they want to build up, you know, ghastly new museums around the Washington Monument to block its view.
All of this is an attack.
It's a cultural attack.
It's an attack on the morale of the nation.
Everybody who is dissuaded from going to places like New York City and everybody who is dissuaded from going to Washington DC and lobbying your representatives in person, right?
I think they are being dissuaded away from being active participants in what should be, what should be, some of the greatest monuments to American prowess, right, to the heavy lift that people have done over several decades and centuries now to build this nation up and to make it the powerhouse that it is.
And the powerhouse externally, sure, but the powerhouse internally more important.
And it's the innards that are rotting the worst.
It's the innards that are subject to the greatest assailment by the alphabet agencies, by the political class, by, frankly, Even people who have tried to make a name for themselves over here and you look, I think of the Piers Morgans and the Mehdi Hassans and all of these people who come to America and try and tear it down from the inside out.
And I'm here to tell this audience that I don't know if I speak for you, Jack, I'll try, but certainly for myself, we are the people who are on the opposite side of that, and trying to come in from somewhere else and say, hey, you have something, you had something magnificent and great, and we loved it, and we love it, and we want to be a part of it, but you have to preserve it, you have to protect it.
And all of this goes hand in hand with the subject matter at hand here, Jack, which is Christmas time.
Right?
Let's talk about Boxing Day for a minute, because it's Boxing Day.
That phrase is not often used by Americans, although this audience has become a little bit more aware, since we've been doing these Boxing Day specials, of what it means.
To me, Jack, I've always represented Boxing Day as kind of the giving day, right?
The generosity day, the charity day.
The day that some of us who have more than others, it's time for us to recognize that.
It's time for us to spend that day putting things together, working out what our charitable endeavors for the year will be.
And I've certainly made an effort to do that over the last couple of years, especially with work Well, you're exactly right about it being the Giving Day.
The exact origins of the term Boxing Day are a little obscure.
year we raised I think near on $35,000 to help veterans and their families and 9-11 survivors' families as well. But tell us a little about the origins of Boxing Day and the rest of the Christmas period.
unidentified
Well, you're exactly right about it being the Giving Day.
The exact origins of the term Boxing Day are a little obscure. The two main theories are that it either comes from the alms boxes, the poor boxes that used to be kept in the churches that people would donate to, there'd be collections, and then they'd be distributed on Boxing Day or thereabouts to people who were less well off, people who were in need.
You know, one of the real key central tenets of Christianity and the Christian faith.
The other theory is that it came from the Christmas boxes, the gift boxes, that people who worked in domestic service Back in the day, you know, when there were lords and ladies and people of great estates to work for, they would have to work for those families on Christmas Day, and they would be allowed to return to their own families the following day on Boxing Day.
And with them, they would take a box, which would have some gifts from the master's family, maybe some food and some other goodies, you know?
So it was an idea, although it's a little bit of an elite idea, it was an idea, certainly, of giving back.
Of remembering that Christmas is not really a time just for taking, which sadly has perhaps been lost a bit for Boxing Day in particular.
Boxing Day in Britain is a bit like Black Friday.
It's strongly associated with sales, you know?
The family time is over.
The Christmas time is over.
Now you're meant to be back in the shops, back in the stores, trying to snatch up what you can for yourself.
Maybe for your own immediate family, but you're not thinking about giving alms and giving unto others.
Which is a great shame, you know?
raheem kassam
But of course... So, sort of like, Jack, the idea that you might let one of your staff, you know, have one of your shirts.
Is it sort of like that?
unidentified
I'm not sure what you could be referring to, Rahim.
I'm not quite...
raheem kassam
Jack is currently wearing from the Raheem Kassam collection, we'll just put it that way.
Tell us more about the other days of the Christmas period and why you think we should pay attention to them.
unidentified
Absolutely.
To finish on Boxing Day, of course, it's not only Boxing Day, it is also St Stephen's Day.
So it commemorates St.
Stephen, who was the first martyr, the first Christian to be killed for his faith in the Book of Acts, stoned to death, really for refusing to renounce his faith, for standing against the religious authorities of his day.
And that was marked on the 26th, you know, coterminous with Boxing Day.
There's certain other traditions that go with it.
In Finland, it's been traditional to drive through the streets on horse-drawn As opposed to reindeer drawn sleighs.
But of course, then you come right away into December the 27th, and that is the feast of St John the Evangelist, you know, the disciple Jesus loved, John the Apostle, the, by tradition, author of both the Gospel of John, or certainly its source, and the Book of Revelation, you know, a real key, the longest-lived apostle and a real key figure in early Christianity, the living link between
The disciples themselves and the early church fathers, people like Saint Polycarp, come after that to the Feast of the Holy Innocents.
Now, if anyone here has been to Paris to see Notre Dame before the terrible fire, there was a great centrepiece there used to be in that church, sadly now burned to ashes depicting the Massacre of the Innocents, that is the poor little children, all the boys aged under two years old, who were put to death by King Herod.
When the Magi, the wise men, the three kings, came to speak to him of the newborn king and wanting to come and find him.
And there's many days like this in the period, in the Christmastide period, the 12 days of Christmas, leading up to Twelfth Night.
And Twelfth Night, for a long time, was if Christmas Day was a time for children and what have you, Twelfth Night was an adult-oriented holiday.
It was all about feasting, drinking.
In England, it was traditional for a long time to name a Lord of Misrule to preside over the unruly events of the day.
And for a period, the Dutch, the Church, and the Netherlands actually banned it because it all got a little bit out of hand.
But, you know, that was something that was really an alternative to, I suppose, today's New Year's Eve, or what we call Hogmanay in Scotland.
And then on the 1st of January, you know, the first day of the new year, that was dedicated to Mary, to the Blessed Virgin.
That was the solemnity of Mary celebrating her motherhood, the motherhood of Christ, of Jesus.
And there's many other sort of less noticeable Less notable little customs and traditions and days for commemoration and memorialization, all scattered through those 12 days, which are, you know, there's so many of them are much forgotten today.
You know, the Christmas period is defined by really, you know, the advent period, sales, Christmas Day, and then the after Christmas sales.
And that's not what it was supposed to be, you know, it was really meant to be a long pause, a long 12-day pause leading into Epiphany, you know, what I already mentioned to you, Three Kings Day, Little Christmas, which was another day for gift-giving, commemorating the Magi coming and giving their gifts to the baby Jesus.
A really important day in the Christian calendar because it was the first manifestation of the incarnation, you know, the God-made man, to the Gentiles, you know, Gaspard, Melchior and Balthasar, the Magi, were not Jews, they were Gentiles, like ourselves, come to see the newborn King, to see Jesus.
And you know, there was so many traditions associated with that.
raheem kassam
Amazing.
unidentified
The baking of an epiphany cake, so much.
There's so much to the Elvins, and I hope that we'll be able to cover it for our readers at the National Pulse in the coming days.
raheem kassam
Yeah, absolutely, Jack.
I mean, that's one of the things that I wanted to make mention of before we let you go here, is let people know where they can find you on social media, because Jack's going to be pumping out a bunch of this content that I think is extremely important.
And you're going to want to not just share it with us, but print it out and share it with your family in person.
Jack, tell the audience where they can find more from you.
unidentified
You can find me at Jack B Montgomery on X.
Or Twitter, as it once was.
raheem kassam
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jack, and thenationalpulse.com.
All of his work will be up there in the analysis section.
You've got to go and check it out and find out more about all of these things.
I know I am aware that a lot of the audience will have some view into this, but I think for a lot of people, it's too easily forgotten.
Jack Montgomery, thank you so much for joining us here on this War Room Boxing Day special.
unidentified
A great pleasure.
A Merry Christmas tide to everyone for the next 11 days.
raheem kassam
There you go, Jack Montgomery there.
You can see why here at the National Pulse we try and make sure that our writers are much more than that.
They are people who have really lots, lots, lots more to give and that is just one of the things.
We'll be right back with more of the Boxing Day tradition in just a second.
unidentified
Welcome back to the War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K.
Bamm.
raheem kassam
Well, you're back in the War Room for this Boxing Day special.
I'm Raheem Kassam, Editor-in-Chief of TheNationalPulse.com.
Make sure you are going to TheNationalPulse.com forward slash War Room.
You sign up, support Real News, support our staff, our writing staff there.
You saw Jack Montgomery talking us through The Christmas tide, and the Christmas period, and the importance of all the different occasions you find therein, or you should find therein, but unfortunately are currently eclipsed in a lot of quarters of not just America, but the wide and Western world by The commercialization of it.
Honestly, the degradation of it in so many senses.
And you've seen that, I'm sure you've seen that and lamented this taking place over the last several weeks.
Where you've seen satanic baphomet heads being erected in state capitals and so on and so forth.
It is always under assault.
Your spirit is always under assault.
Christianity is under assault.
The foundations of what created this nation.
Constantly under assault.
You will not get to a time.
I'm sorry to tell you this.
I'm sure Stephen K. Bannon tells you this all the time, too.
But you will probably not see a time where any of that goes away.
No, you will likely live through a time where it gets worse and worse.
We are seeing that ratcheting up every single day, but in amongst all of it, right?
The reason that I am so passionate about this, this stuff, and especially over the last few years, you know, throwing my shoulders to the wheel on so much of this stuff is you start to realize And I don't want this to sound like a lecture.
If anything, it's a lecture at myself.
You're just here for it.
But you start to realize that in addition to pushing back against the evil, which we do on a day-to-day basis, in addition to shining a spotlight on it, in addition to trying to disinfect the corruption that takes place just yards away from where I sit right here, and is writ large all over the Western world, in addition to the fight back, also have to give back. Charitable endeavors, the generosity of spirit, all of these things
are not just imperative, but they are a duty. Over the last couple of years I've been honored to take part in the Tunnel to Towers 5k run. It's not a lot for all of you who are avid fitness freaks and runners out there, but it was certainly a lot for me when I first did it three years ago. I think I was about 50 pounds heavier, was probably smoking about a pack a day, would probably sink about three or four martinis followed
by three or four pints a night.
And then one day I woke up and said, you know what?
I'm going to run this 5k.
You can imagine what that ended up looking like the first year.
I think I probably ended up with a 55 minute finish time.
Now, I'm only a small guy, by the way.
I'm only about five, seven and a half.
And so, you know, the strides aren't that long, but we have significantly improved on the runtime over those couple of years.
We've significantly improved on the health over those couple of years as well.
And I like to think we've significantly improved other people's lives along the way as well.
Last year was the first year that I actively raised money.
While being part of the run, and we raised $25,000 last year.
This year, we raised $35,000 for Tunnel to Towers, and that's money that's going to help the survivors of 9-11 and their families.
It's money that goes to help veterans, especially those who are physically impaired, those who have lost limbs, for those who can't actually get around and about anymore and hold down a day-to-day job like those of us who are
Blessed with everything that God gave us from birth, and it's that sort of tragedy that you see, and the sacrifice that you see, that kind of spurs me on, especially this Boxing Day, to make sure that more and more people are taking part in that.
And it's an open offer, by the way, for anybody that wants to come and run the Tunnel to Towers 5K with me next year, you are more than welcome, they do it every year.
thousands upon thousands of people.
And I want to make sure that we're playing some of the video as well that I took from the run myself that you can see on the broadcast here because because it's not just raising the money either and it's not just the people that you're going to help.
It's the...
It's how iconic that run is.
It's how moving that run is.
And for those of you who are unaware of the history of that organization, Tunnel to Towers, named, you know, and really founded for a man who, on 9-11, put all of his gear on and ran into the tunnel towards the towers as they were collapsing to try and help people there.
You know, every time I start that race, and you go through that tunnel, you run through that tunnel, and you emerge out, and you see the Freedom Tower now, right in front of you, and the road is flanked with policemen and firefighters and servicemen of all kinds, holding up pictures, hundreds and hundreds of their colleagues,
Who gave the ultimate sacrifice, who perished on that day and the days hence to try and save other people.
And they just do an amazing job at Tunnel to Towers so I wanted to make sure that for those of you Uh, who are feeling generous today, uh, who have the ability, uh, that you go to, uh, the Tunnel to Towers website.
I make sure that I give every month, uh, in addition to raising them the money every year.
And this year I was also lucky enough to be invited to one of their, one of their pre-run, we'll have to have a word about this, but their pre-run gala dinners, which I don't think is the best time To load up on food is the night before the run, or maybe it is, but I certainly struggle the next day as a result of it.
It's just an amazing thing to take part in.
It's an amazing thing to feel And they do these all over the country, by the way.
They do them all around the country, so if you can't descend on Manhattan, on downtown Manhattan for the next one next year, they try and find one in your state, in your local community, and be a part of that, too.
And I also got the New York Young Republican Club involved in this, so you've got a lot of them now who run in this 5K, and I'm delighted to say that this year, by the way, you see from the video that we're playing, This year was the first year I think in many that it rained and I don't mean it was drizzling it was pouring down with rain but then you get into the tunnel itself and the tunnels dry
But it's boiling hot as a result, because as you can see, I'm just sweating going into that tunnel.
And then you emerge out the other side and it's raining again.
So you go from freezing cold in the rain, boiling hot in the tunnel with all the other runners around you, and then back into the rain again.
So I had hoped, I had hoped, I said 30, I said over 30k that I wanted to raise, and under 30 minutes in time.
Unfortunately, Because of the rain, I'm blaming the rain.
It was over 30 minutes in time, but it was over 30k raised, so we got half of that done.
We'll do it better again next year.
We'll get that run time down.
A couple of weeks later, by the way, I did another 5k just by myself, and I was down to under 30 minutes on that.
It's a long way!
from the 55-minute first year.
Stick around, stay tuned, we're bringing on another of our writers in just a moment.
Will Upton joins us from the National Pulse for this Boxing Day special.
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