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Dec. 12, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3240: Zelensky Arrives In DC To Lecture America
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willie geist ▲ ● ▼
President looking at this visit different, as we pointed out earlier this morning, from the previous where there was unilateral support for President Zelensky and his effort in the fight against Russia.
The president, our president, has some convincing to do this time.
unidentified
You know, Willie, I think you're exactly right.
And what's most striking here, perhaps, is what a difference a year makes.
Remember, it was this month, one year ago, that President Zelensky came to the U.S., received multiple standing ovations, was welcomed with open arms as he spoke to a joint session of Congress this time around.
very different situation and as Ali just detailed here the president of Ukraine is really being thrust into the middle of what is a very bitter domestic political battle. The president has repeatedly sort of amped up the urgency for Congress to act right now calling for a hundred and six billion dollars in total which would include about sixty billion dollars to support Ukraine militarily as they head into the critical winter months here. I was speaking to the National Security Advisors spokesperson
John Kirby a short time ago who said right now that Russia is going to be amping up its efforts as the ground hardens there in the winter.
They put out some declassified information overnight that the White House shared with me and others basically saying that there has been progress made but they are facing a real uphill climb because of the stalled counter offensive by the Ukrainians in that region and frankly back at home the Republicans saying Hey, we agree we would like to see more money to Ukraine, but we have to focus on national security here at the U.S.-Mexico border first.
The president, in his words, said he is open to, quote, significant compromises on that issue.
But what he has seen to this point, Willie, he has described as draconian.
The president has been engaged on all of this.
But he is also facing some real political pressure from some of his allies as well.
The Congressional Hispanic Caucus, among others, as NBC News was first to report.
Basically, you know, pushing back on the president's willingness to negotiate on the issue of border policies, afraid that the president might go too far, give too much away to the Republicans here.
The bottom line is he said this has to happen by the end of the year.
But as the top Senate Republican negotiator, Jim Lankford, James Lankford of Oklahoma, has said it's Not gonna happen this week and very likely this doesn't happen until January.
The White House has made clear they're running out of time and running out of money right now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's Tuesday, 12 December, Year of the Lord 2023. One of the great insults of our time is that the globalists, and remember the globalists control this Capitol, let's be brutally frank The America First nationalist, populist nationalist movement is in a massive fight to take it over.
It's no longer Republicans and Democrats.
If you still think in the concept of Republicans and Democrats, you're playing into their hands.
This is about uniparty globalists that put every interest, particularly the interest of how they can grift off money laundering To expand the the calamitous reach of the United States military more and more as they just steal money.
Versus America first populist nationalist to want to put the citizens of this country first and put our beloved country in our sovereignty first.
I want to put this in perspective.
They sent this has never happened.
I mean with Diem and all the bad choices we made in supporting people over the years.
We've never had someone we've flown someone in to get in the middle of what is really a domestic decision about whether we and this is how the Bidens and the Democrats how little they think of our country.
They've actually only begun to even be open to talking about Really enforcing the asylum laws of which Biden said is too draconian.
Enforcing the asylum laws on the nine, eight to nine million illegal alien invaders that have come here and are destroying the country.
Only consider, even talking about that, so they get $60 billion for Ukraine, and remember the $120 we got in there, the $60, the $80 they're talking about now, it gets you up to $200 billion, with the deadbeats in Europe, the elites in Europe not putting in anything, or virtually nothing, and wanting us to defend them again, being a protectorate.
It will continue on.
If you did this, another $50 next year, another $50 next year, another $50 next year, as we pay their pensions, as we pay their health care.
And continue to have more and more civilians killed, and the place would get bombed more like Dresden.
It just never ends.
So it has to end now.
And it will end now.
But they actually brought Zelensky over to talk to our military?
Are you kidding me?
Over the National Defense?
Now, they scrambled at the end and didn't have it at the Pentagon.
They had it at National Defense University here in Washington, D.C.
also.
But to have Zelensky Who's made a complete hash of this Ukraine situation.
To have him addressed, to put him in and insert himself in, as we said yesterday, to the middle of this NDAA discussion.
The military is already political enough, it has to be de-politicized, has to be de-woke, has to be de-weaponized, which is in this National Defense Authorization.
To have him go and even politicize this thing more.
What could Zelensky do as far as a briefing on the military situation that the people at National Defense University don't know in spades?
Because we have a better feel.
Because we're in more contact with the Ukrainian military.
Remember, there's a huge rift between the Ukrainian military and Zelensky.
These are just facts.
And yet they're inserting him in the middle of this to try to guilt trip people.
And try to look like they're trying to get the military on their side.
Oh, you have to do this or the Russians are going to be in, you know, Warsaw next.
Tuberville said today, Tuberville didn't, he says, look, I heard it, you know, it doesn't have any meaning to me.
He says, we don't have any money, we're broke.
Go someplace else.
This shows you where the priorities, this is why Biden's thinking like a stone.
It shows you their priorities.
And Johnson's quoted, it just, Speaker Johnson's just quoted that they're letting people go on the 15th because the Senate hasn't come up with a Ukraine solution, so he doesn't want people, and I quote here, twiddling their thumbs.
Hey brother, the Ukraine thing, I don't care, we don't care about.
Why not talk to the NDAA and FISA?
What about the plan?
Where are the other 5 appropriations bills?
You've only done 7 of 12.
What about getting kicking the, you're gonna vote tomorrow, what about working overtime through the holidays on the impeachment inquiry so you can bring it to a vote, I don't know, in the first or second week of January?
What about your plan of a one-year continued resolution?
If you do that, hey, your speakership may be gone.
It's not tooling your thumbs.
You're telling me the only work That you're thinking of in your mind is Ukraine?
Screw Ukraine.
Here's the work we gotta do in Ukraine.
Hey, how about this?
Nothing.
Zero.
Is that fine?
We did that?
Can we check that box?
No more work to do?
Zelensky's not going to get any money, and anybody that would sit there and try to give him money should be turfed out.
Regardless, whatever party you're in, isn't it interesting that the anti-war Democrats today are obsessed with getting money to Ukraine on the big fight for democracy, the big phony fight for democracy, as President Trump calls it?
Why is that?
I don't know, you think it's any child trafficking or money laundering or, you know, Victoria Nuland's bio labs over there?
Do you have any idea why the Democrats lather up about this?
Why Kagan and Victoria Nuland?
What is, what is, what is, Darren Beatty calls it the dominatrix of the color revolutions?
Over here today.
No, Speaker Johnson, no.
You don't have to sit around twiddling your thumbs over your crane if you stay through the holidays.
How about to get ahead?
Because here's the facts.
They're going to leave on Friday.
You know when they're back?
They're back January 9th.
How many of you in this audience are taking three weeks off over Christmas?
War Room's not.
We're going to be up every day.
Every day, baby.
Bringing it every day.
Because that's what we do.
I couldn't think of doing anything else other than the country's in a crisis.
Why would I take a day off?
Why would you do that?
Speaker Johnson, it's either a crisis or not a crisis.
You're not going to be twiddling your thumbs, quote-unquote, twiddling your thumbs today in Ukraine.
You've got other stuff to do besides Ukraine, bro.
Hey, how about this?
How about we're going to hit $34 trillion here sometime, you know, the middle of next week or the end of next week before Christmas?
Right?
Before we commemorate the baby Jesus, you're going to hit $34 trillion.
What about that plan?
And not that things are on table.
McCarthy's gone.
Screw the handshake deal.
Come in and give me your plan to get to a balanced budget in five years.
Why don't you stay and work on that?
I just don't get you guys.
It's a lack of urgency.
It's a lack of courage.
We're going to have Andrew Clyde here, Congressman Clyde here in a little while.
We're going to talk to him about it.
Here's the thing.
Another thing is we got the chemical warfare fentanyl.
We're not even addressing that.
No real address.
She came over, the big fentanyl meeting.
Yeah, I'm gonna do something as soon as you make sure you're turning over Taiwan and you get all the top 400 guys gonna put American pension fund money in my country to come here and kowtow to me and raise their champagne glasses, right?
And I may do something on fentanyl.
These people are suckers.
Why do you think Trump's up with all this stuff going on with Trump?
Why do you think he's up?
Because they understand he's a badass.
That's simply put.
You don't need a lot of details.
They understand he's going to stand in the breach.
Now, he's putting out details in every campaign speech he gives.
They won't pay attention to it.
Just say, oh, he's going to be a dictator.
He's going to be a dictator.
He's going to be a dictator.
Well, he's the farthest thing from a dictator.
But what he's going to be is what you're not.
The uniparty political class.
In the Senate, in Mitch McConnell, these guys are rubbing up on, in Tom Cotton, these guys are rubbing up on Zelensky.
Any of you yahoos over there ever had any aspirations for to be the president?
You've shown that you don't have judgment, you don't have discernment, you don't have wisdom, you don't understand anything but geopolitics.
And basically the world.
Because in this show, we have said from the run up to this war and from the first day of the war, this was such a tragic mistake.
And the people that are going to pay for it were the Ukrainian people in their blood and the American people, the average guy, the average guy in America in their treasure and the average schmo in Ukraine with their blood.
And that's where we are, folks.
They're over here for another $60 billion.
They don't have enough common courtesy to walk you through the American people.
We have a $2.5 trillion deficit the last 12 months.
We're adding a trillion dollars every 90 days.
That is going to bury, not is going to, is burying everybody under 40 years old right now, making them a debt serf.
That's reality, which will never pay off one penny the principal ever will barely be able to keep up and pay the interest payments.
And yet they're spending time today.
On this and he's an evil guy and all the conservative commentary at the said, oh, he's church or church or no, you were dead wrong.
Like you're wrong on most things.
Just disgusting the fanboy on this guy and he's over here now and stepping into who at the Pentagon they ought to be fired.
Who in the White House allowed him to go talk to the military?
Have we ever allowed that?
To come to our nation's capital when we're having this huge debate about can we even finance what we got because we can't?
And you've got an invasion on the southern border of the nine million illegal alien invaders.
You heard the guys yesterday, the black activists from Chicago, the streets of Chicago, they're being destroyed.
The streets of New York, they're being destroyed.
The people in this country that have the least resources and the least ability to take that kind of blow are being destroyed.
And we've got Zelensky over here in the halls of Congress going around being fettered by the Senate, by Mitch McConnell and that crowd of Republicans who could very simply say, no, this is not happening, and asking for $60 billion, $60 billion that we don't have, and they're trying to pitch it, oh, it's really going to go for high, you know, high value added jobs in Alabama.
Stop it.
Stop it.
I don't want to hear that.
It's ridiculous.
When you pitch that, it's obscene.
It shows you how morally corrupt you are.
Morally corrupt.
Oh, we're going to keep shelling into Ukraine, kill more civilians because we've got a couple of well-paid jobs down the south in congressional districts.
Screw you.
You're despicable.
That's your pitch?
You think this country is that craven?
You think the citizens of this country are that craven?
Absolute, it's beyond imagination, but thank God for this audience.
202-225-3121.
Tell them what you think about any money to Zelensky, and tell them what you think about the woke and weaponized NDA.
No on the NDA, no on money for Zelensky.
The answer is, wait for it, no.
We're not doing this anymore.
And you're not going to hold our country hostage.
You've taken a hostage here on the border.
That's how little they think of you in this country.
Oh, well, if you give them money, we'll then talk about some asylum.
Can you believe that?
Can you believe just the gall they have to do that?
Oh, well, if you give us the money, we can put some lipstick on it.
We can put some border HR2 lipstick on it.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
willie geist ▲ ● ▼
He put all of his eggs and he's down 30, 35 points in most polling.
So Molly, your new piece of vanity fair is titled, Donald Trump's dictator promise is no joke.
In it, Molly writes, quote, over the past week, Donald Trump promised to be a dictator on two different occasions.
Sadly, that's not a completely unexpected sentence to write, given that he and his allies have not been shy about planning an authoritarian second term from installing MAGA loyalists throughout the government.
To using the Department of Justice to target political enemies.
Fox News host Sean Hannity, who first blamed the media for focusing on a scary second-term agenda, asked, "'Under no circumstances, you are promising America tonight you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody?' Trump responded, quote, "'Except for day one,' end quote.
We find ourselves,' Molly writes, "'at a precipice, with Trump making his autocratic tendencies crystal clear.' The news media needs to take him literally and seriously, especially as his anti-democratic impulses have infected the rest of the party.
Republicans have purged those in their ranks who have sided with democracy over Trump, like Liz Cheney, who's now sounding the alarms while elevating an election denier like Mike Johnson to Speaker of the House.
It is time for the media to warn voters of the stakes of this election, one of which is whether there will still be democratic elections.
So something we've been focused on for the last several weeks here on this show, the Atlantic has had its series of pieces saying, hey, this is what a second term would look like.
And I do think most people understand that in 2016, He couldn't do all the things he was claiming he was going to do.
He's just being brash.
He's being Donald Trump for The Apprentice.
We like that he's going to shake things up.
Now he's got a record to run on, and now he's on the record promising it will be worse.
From his own lips, he's promising it will be worse.
unidentified
Yeah, and he has institutional backing now, right?
He has the Heritage Foundation saying they're going to fire all government employees, you know, not all government employees, but they're going to try to remake the, you know, the government in ways that we hadn't even sort of dreamed of.
The thing I'm so struck by is it feels like the mainstream media is addicted to giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, right?
We saw in 2016 that a lot of the stuff he wanted to do, the autocratic stuff, he just couldn't do because he wasn't able to.
Okay, welcome back.
That's the complete meltdown.
He does have a record to run on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
four years off and he's really got allies that are very smart and know how government works and you see his plans I mean the stuff they're saying already this is the stuff they're advertising is really scary so imagine what they're not advertising okay welcome back that's the complete meltdown he does have a record to run on you're absolutely correct and we'll have an up or down vote on that this current debacle versus Trump's four years of peace and
prosperity maybe one interrupted by a CCP bioweapon to try to take him out and his government out And yes, they're not going to fire.
They're going to deconstruct the administrative state.
It's quite sophisticated.
It's very well thought through and a lot of people are working on it and it's going to happen.
I want to return to, what's your alternative?
Here's your alternative.
A country that's broke, a country that's got $34 trillion now is going to have another $2 trillion this coming year because of McConnell and these guys cradling to Biden and the essentially traitors up on Capitol Hill that don't mind this Republican spending to keep going on this debt.
They're spending their time today with all the issues we've got going on.
They're spending their time on Zelensky and his crew of oligarchs that are grifting.
When all of Europe knows, the papers and all the analysis we do, they know it's over.
Let me bring in Harnwell from Rome.
And think about it, the only discussion, they passed H.R.
unidentified
2.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want you to embrace this.
I want this to be burned into your soul.
The only way that the Democrats and the Biden would even discuss Enforcing the law.
What she said was too draconian.
The only way they would even consider enforcing the law was because we said no on the money to Ukraine.
Think about that for a second.
That's how little respect they have for this country.
That's how little respect they have for the sovereignty of this country.
That's how little respect they have for the citizens of this country.
You don't matter.
You're just trash.
That the priority of the fetish that has become Ukraine And I'm telling you, it's money laundering, it's child trafficking, it's those biolabs.
When we get in there, it's to get down to the receipts in Ukraine.
I'm telling you, the puss that's going to come out there is going to be ugly.
And we're going to get to the bottom of all of it.
And maybe Zelensky one day is in the Hague, or maybe he's in the U.S.
court somewhere about the money he stole and the money that people are renting, which is an open secret.
The Time magazine article, these reporters are sitting there talking to government officials.
This is open secret.
They're talking about it.
Ben Harnwell, your thoughts and analysis.
You know, where Europe's sitting there, they had a war game in what, Paris?
One of the ancient institutions set up, I think by Napoleon, they had a war game with all the elites came over a couple weeks ago, and of course the Russians won, and they're sitting there going, it's over, what we need is a massive American cash infusion now to try to have something to get to the negotiating table.
Ben Harnwell, your thoughts of Zelensky's trip to the United States?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Steve, good morning.
Well, let's start off with the École Militaire, the 300-year-old French academy, which, as you say, Napoleon himself studied warfare there.
They had this conference over the weekend and one Ukrainian government counsellor said this, right?
If you're offended by hard language, put your hands over your ears now.
There's an F-bomb alert.
He said, we're screwed.
We're absolutely fucked.
America is washing its hands of Ukraine.
Now, this is the conversation that international military experts, there were 100 or so military experts at this conference.
This is what they're saying in private.
So that's the context.
That's the backdrop to what the reality is.
behind this superficial synthetic reality that we're seeing in Washington, D.C.
right now with Zelensky's visit.
Steve, there's a big difference this time.
This is his third visit to D.C.
since the war started.
There's a big difference on this third visit.
You might remember a couple of months ago on his last visit, the White House made sort of certain hints in the press that they didn't really want Zelensky there.
He sort of invited himself.
Um, and the reason for that was because the White House at that point still thought it had a political argument.
That it could win, that Zelensky was toxic for the American public, therefore it would be easier for the Democrats, for the administration to win this argument without Zelensky's presence, right?
What has changed between then and now when he's very much being invited by the Democrat regime?
Well, it's because, as this quote just illustrates, they know this war is lost, right?
They know that.
It's absolutely clear now.
Why do they want Zelensky here for a last push when they know there's no more money coming?
Because they want the Republican Party to take all the incoming from the responsibility for the loss of this war.
Now, let's be, let's be, let's be reasonable.
Let's be, let's be honest, which is what we are all the time on the war room.
There are people in the United States, as there are in the rest of the world, that want Ukraine to win.
I'm not just talking about this out-of-touch political class.
In the public, voters, taxpayers, there are people that think we should be paying more money in the United States, in Europe, to help Zelensky.
I think the Democrats have massively overestimated that proportion, because over half the country now thinks that America is giving too much money to Ukraine.
But there is a significant rump there.
So what the Democrats are trying to do is to salvage every last vote from the implosion that there's going to be when Ukraine either surrenders or takes a ceasefire on Russia's terms.
And they're trying to pin this responsibility on the Republicans and say, look, we were there, we were in this for the long haul, but, you know, the Republicans cut it off.
I actually think, as I say, that they've underestimated that and there's going to be a lot of gratitude to the Republicans for stopping this.
But hey, if I were an advisor to the Democrats, I would say basically at this point, that's the best thing you can do.
Pin the blame and the responsibility for the loss of this war on the Republicans.
Now, there's just something else I would quickly like to mention here, because the backdrop, OK, to Ukraine, in Ukraine, and this visit is that, and we've been covering this for a couple of weeks now, there's increasing dissension, fissures opening up in the Ukrainian political establishment against Zelensky.
Now, there is an article here, and very revealing, I think, here, if I just Read this quote directly.
It says that Zelensky's changing status on the world stage as Western countries and important segments of the Ukrainian establishment look for an exit strategy.
Zelensky is no longer seen as an asset, but as a liability.
And that's in UnHerd, which is, again, like the Daily Beast I was referring to earlier.
These aren't sort of populist nationalist organizations.
These are very much on the left.
So what's the point here, Steve?
If Zelensky doesn't get any money on this visit, and he won't, if I were Zelensky, I would think twice about returning to Ukraine.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
No, we kept saying when he lectured us, he lectures at Davos.
What a year and a half ago, he said, oh, he'd read all the memoirs from World War Two.
He knew so much about World War Two, and people should read those.
I said, dude, I forgot more about World War Two than you'll ever know.
You should read The Best and the Brightest by Halberstram, and particularly the chapters on President Diem.
When the U.S.
intelligence community and the U.S.
apparatus is finished with you, whatever you do, don't take a trip.
Don't get in a truck and head to the airport to a plane.
Just don't.
No, the insult here is that he comes and he actually said that the America First movement, that people don't want to give 60 billion dollars, are going to empower Putin, they're on Putin's side.
That's a lie.
We're not on Putin's side.
We support the Russian people, like we support Lao Beijing and the Chinese people, because the Russian people and the Chinese people, not their governments, not the criminals in Beijing, the CCP, and certainly not the KGB, which is kind of the The repository of the Bolsheviks and Stalin and that crowd, right?
No.
The U.S.
government and the intelligence services kept all those guys in business, okay?
They overarmed Stalin at the end of World War II.
Overarmed him in the last two years when it wasn't necessary.
And of course they gave China to the CCP.
Gave China to the CCP.
Gave China to the CCP.
And here we are today with a punk like Zielinski lecturing America first?
No.
Here's the amount of money you get dude.
Nothing.
Zero.
You go back and deal with it.
And now you're going to start to see all the truth come out.
You're going to see the truth come out from the generals over there.
You're going to see the truth come out from the people over there.
What actually went on.
What decisions were made.
And who in the United States is responsible for this?
That's another... Put that on the list.
Full accountability.
And who was paid?
Who were consultants?
Who had these NGOs?
unidentified
All of it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It stinks to high heaven.
The blood of the Ukrainians are on the Uniparty's hands.
Short break.
Take Andy Clyde next time.
What in the hell is going on over there?
Mike Johnson's a good man.
He's a solid guy.
He's got a biblical worldview, he's a devout Christian, we love all that.
Where's the fight?
I mean, right now we've got the NDA, you've got FISA, you've got this Ukraine situation, but more importantly, I think here's what the audience is having a tough time coming to grips with.
Because you know, the audience of War Room is a working class, middle class audience that hits it every day, loves their country, supports you guys, MAGA, America First, the President Trump, the Trump movement.
They can't get their head around the fact that given all these multiple crises of the invasion of the southern border, this calamity, we're adding another trillion dollars in 90 days from September 18th to December 18th, two and a half trillion dollar deficits, that the 16th or the 19th of January is right upon us.
You guys are leaving on Friday for three weeks, you don't come back to the night.
Nobody in this audience gets more than a couple days off for Christmas, maybe a week with the family at best.
They just don't see the urgency That meets the moment of the crisis we're in.
So help explain that one to us.
Because I know you're a guy, you'd work seven days a week, 20 hours a day.
unidentified
Right.
I'm a small businessman.
I fully understand that.
And before that, a Navy officer and fully understand that too.
But, you know, they did the continuing resolution so they wouldn't end up with a Christmas omnibus, but we're setting ourselves up for a New Year's omnibus.
All right.
Coming back, you know, the second week, literally in January.
And this is just unacceptable.
The leadership is not there right now.
We need to fight.
We need to stay here until we get some of these appropriations bills across the finish line.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The other five you're missing.
You got seven done.
Let's get the other, you got 12 total, you got seven done, right?
You got five to go?
unidentified
Right.
Well, we actually voted on on eight. Okay. And so those other four have yet to be, you know, and one of the most important ones is CJS, Commerce Justice Science, because that is dealing with the Department of Justice or the Department of Injustice, you know, I think which is a better way to describe them, the FBI and the ATF. And, you know, I've got some really good amendments going to the floor on those bills.
One of them is defunding the prosecution of a presidential candidate.
It was made in order.
It's going to come to the floor.
We're going to put people on record.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
That's why they don't want it.
That's why they're not going to push it.
That's why they'd rather kick that into the new year.
unidentified
Well, well, but that's the whole point, you know.
Exactly.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The whole point is... No, you think it's brilliant.
unidentified
Right.
And then after that, you have Two amendments to defund the FBI and the ATF down to their last year of authorization.
Do you know the last time the ATF or actually the entire Department of Justice was authorized?
2009.
They have not been an authorized agency literally for the last 14 years and their funding has continued to be increased every solitary year.
They lost their authorization.
They were not authorized during, guess what, a Democrat administration.
When Obama was the president, Pelosi was the Speaker of the House, you had Chuck Schumer, the leader in the Senate, and they had a supermajority in the Senate at the time, and they did not reauthorize the Department of Justice.
So, my amendment is simply taking them back to their last level of authorization, which would cut $3 billion out of their budget.
Which is appropriate.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Appropriate, at least.
So why is none of this happening?
You had a conference this morning.
I heard it got a little heated.
unidentified
It did.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It got a little heated.
It did.
So what happened in the conference?
We have tons of warriors down there.
unidentified
Right.
So what's the problem?
The thing is that the National Defense Authorization Act, so many of the good things that we put in it when we passed it in the House, got stripped out of it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So how did that happen?
We had a huge fight back at the committee level.
In July, it got passed out.
We got a lot of the woken weaponized.
It wasn't perfect, but it was pretty good.
Directionally, it was great.
That's the bill we're supposed to take to the Senate.
What happened to that?
unidentified
Well, it did go to the Senate, but when it got conferenced with the Senate, a lot of that got stripped out.
And, you know, when there's not agreement at the lower level, then it gets kicked up to the next level, like to the Chairman level.
And then if there's no agreement there, it gets kicked up to what's called the Four Corners.
And the Four Corners are the Minority Leader, the Majority Leader in the Senate, the Speaker, and the Minority Leader in the House.
What I found out today is it takes three votes of those four people to actually do anything on the conference.
Well, that means that the Speaker of the House and the Minority Leader, Hakeem Jeffries, have the same authority in that four corners.
That's wrong.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
That's ridiculous.
unidentified
That's absolutely ridiculous.
You know, Speaker of the House didn't have twice the authority.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
But why are we not?
People want to know that we don't want the military to be woken up.
No, we don't.
So why are we not taking a hard stand on that and say, hey, look, I guess it's not must pass because it won't pass.
You've got my point is you have to use leverage points.
unidentified
Yes, we do.
We do have to use leverage points.
And when you have things like transgender surgeries that are still in this NDAA, it still permits transgender surgeries in the military.
And that is a hundred percent wrong.
You know, that will destroy our North Korea.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
But there's a list of stuff.
Virtually all the woken weaponized got put back in because of the Senate.
unidentified
Well, the CRT got taken out, fortunately, okay, which is good.
But the DEI, okay, so great.
They capped the hiring on it.
They capped the salaries there.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
But it's still there.
unidentified
But it's still there, exactly.
The office is still there in the Pentagon.
That was my amendment to strip it out, all right?
And that got removed out of the National Defense Authorization Act conference report.
I'm not voting for it.
I mean, this is a bill that does not go nearly far enough because, you know, before our military ever gets destroyed from the outside, it'll be destroyed from the inside first.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
That's what's happening right now.
unidentified
That's exactly what's happening right now.
We are rotting from the inside.
Before any foreign country will ever defeat our military, Through force on the outside, we will defeat ourselves on the inside.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And what about sticking a Pfizer authorization until April?
It really goes to 2025 in there.
We've got to fight the Pfizer.
I think people's heads are blowing up because so many things that were priorities, and we understand the Senate's corrupt under McConnell, the Republicans, just because they put it back in there, it seems like the House comes back and accepts it.
It doesn't fight.
unidentified
Well, I'll tell you, you know, the FBI was caught spying on Americans in violation of current FISA rules 278,000 times in a year, okay?
And then they said, oh, well, we're going to put these policies in place, we're not going to do that anymore, but we can't tell you what those policies are.
It's all classified garbage.
As far as I'm concerned, FISA can go dark.
FISA can stop on 12-31 of this year.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What doesn't Mike Johnson understand about that?
Why has the intelligence community come around?
Because their typical thing is to scare everybody.
The country is going to be destroyed if you don't do this.
He's clearly been rattled by that.
unidentified
He is.
I absolutely agree.
He is convinced.
that uh... that if there's a uh... terrorist attack you know after you know five two goes dark that will get blamed for it you know if there's a terrorist attack i'm sorry but uh... in those terrorists came across our southern border which is completely wide open that's on by that is not on the house right and i don't know that there's ever been a single event that has been prevented strictly from signals intelligence which is what
fives it's right i mean so i don't subscribe to that fear you know uh... i think it's not base it's not soundly based but the intelligence community will use fear as a motivator and they will try and scare the living daylights out of you and i'm i'm i'm not there so where we right now on that It is currently attached to the National Defense Authorization.
And that's one of the reasons why I'm going to vote for it.
And nobody should be voting for it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We had the presentation yesterday from Frank Gaffney and his team about no on the NDAA.
So you've got to man the ramparts today.
No on any Ukraine money.
No, on the NDA.
As a former commander in the Navy, how offensive is to you that Zelensky comes over here and goes to address the military?
I mean, I am so shocked that such a blatant attempt to politicize an already too politicized military is going on in this town.
It seems like the Republicans in the Senate And the White House have no problem with it.
They're supporting it.
unidentified
Well, you know, and I think a picture is worth a thousand words and you can see Zelensky coming over here.
He doesn't even have enough respect for this country and for our House and for our Senate to come here in a coat and tie.
I mean, you know, we had Fetterman's issue and the Senate finally figured out that that wasn't a good idea to allow him to come in gym shorts and a hoodie.
That he had to actually, you know, we have a dress code.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You're saying if you're coming for money, you ought to dress up like you're asking for it.
unidentified
Well, it shows you the level of respect, you know, that a person has.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Do you think he lacks respect to the United States?
unidentified
I think he does.
I think he absolutely lacks respect for the United States.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
He's trying to put it now in America First.
He says, hey, if we don't get the money, if Putin wins, the Republicans in the America First movement have empowered Putin.
What say you?
unidentified
I think that's a very disingenuous statement.
That's a flat-out lie.
His country is his responsibility, okay?
It is not our responsibility.
Our country is our responsibility.
Our borders are our responsibility.
And so we have to take care of our borders first before there's one solitary dime...
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Does that offend the people in your district that the only time that the Democrats came up and the Uniparty Republicans brought up the southern border was to hold it hostage to the $60 to $80 million for Ukraine?
To get that, they would finally have a conversation and then it was just bells and whistles.
They weren't prepared to do anything really.
I mean, they would hold the sovereignty of this country and our citizens to get money to Ukraine.
Does that offend your constituents?
unidentified
I think it should offend every American citizen.
I mean, we should not be funding Ukraine, not one dime, okay, until our southern border is completely secure.
There are metrics in place to say, yes, we have stopped the illegal immigration coming across our border.
We've stopped the terrorists that are coming across our border.
And we know there are folks on the terrorist watch list that have come across 300 of them since Biden's been in office.
And 1.8 million that we don't even know who they are, but we know that they were there, okay?
The gotaways that the Border Patrol talks about.
But we don't know why they're coming, who they are, what their motivation is, what they're bringing with them.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
In the conference this morning, the people realized that their constituents are not thrilled with them leaving on the 15th and going home.
Is there any sense that people feel a sense of urgency that they don't?
unidentified
I think that just isn't sensed here.
It's certainly sensed to me.
I think we should stay here and get the job done.
But the appropriations process...
But that's why the CR until the 19th and the 2nd of February.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So you get back on the 9th, you have 10 days.
Project out.
What's going to happen?
Is there going to be magic solution?
Are people here working on what alternatives are going to be?
Is there still this debate over the McCarthy handshake or the 1%?
We hear that Johnson, the Speaker, is thinking of a one-year CR.
Because it gets a 1% cut across the border, which is nothing compared to the calamity we have now.
That might have been of interest years ago, but now it's virtually irrelevant.
unidentified
Well, actually, a one-year CR would be considered by the Budget Office as an appropriation.
You wouldn't get the 1% cut then on a one-year CR.
But you would get lower levels on, you know, the FRA It would actually be about a $40 billion cut in non-defense spending.
$40 billion is nothing right now.
That's my point.
We hit $33 trillion on September 18th.
We're going to hit $34 trillion on December 18th.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We've added $1 trillion in 90 days.
That's my point.
unidentified
Yeah, I agree with you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The trailing 12 months, the trailing, okay.
We hit $33 trillion on September 18th.
We're going to hit $34 trillion on December 18th.
We've added $1 trillion in 90 days.
The trailing 12 months is now $2.5 trillion.
The interest expense this year is going to blow up well north of a trillion.
My point is when you deal with the law of large numbers, you're in a situation that this thing starts to exponentially get worse.
And that's what's happening.
So this discussion about $40 billion.
Is is virtually irrelevant.
Well, when that's what it has, somebody has to stand up and say, OK, I know there's going to sever everybody and you can't deal with Social Security and Medicare because that's not the problem.
The problem is the discretionary spending.
And I hate to be brutally frank, but tax increases on the super wealthy.
At some point, you're going to have to tell the progressive Democrat left who fund all this madness that we're going to come and take your money.
This is, I know that Grover Norquist and these guys and all the donors that are all over, our heads are going to blow up.
But before you talk about entitlements, you're going to have to show the nation that you can do both of those, that you can cut discretionary spending on non-defense and defense, and that you can raise taxes for the super wealthy, not for the middle class or the working people that have too big a burden.
Now, you hang on one second.
Congressman Clyde's in shock right here.
He just sat in a room with somebody and said, no, we got a commercial break.
Short commercial break, Congressman Clyde Joyce on the other side.
unidentified
Alright, great, great.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
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The NDAA, putting this woke and weaponized back in, has got a lot of nefarious things.
One of the things, talk about Arlington National Cemetery reconciliation, because these are the details that are in these 9,000 page bills.
They've got all these types of things in there.
Talk to us about it.
unidentified
Well, the 2021 NDAA created this naming commission to basically take down any monument or reference that commemorates the Confederacy.
And one of the monuments that they discussed... So the reason Fort Hood is not Fort Hood?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Fort Hood will always be Fort Hood and Fort Bragg will always be Fort Bragg and Camp Pickett will always be Camp Pickett.
And Fort Benning?
unidentified
Right.
Benning, they came up with all these phony names that nobody uses, but that's part of it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Now they're going to take it, and that's all, by the way, the progressives you understand, nobody calls it, they call it Bragg, they call it Benning, they call it Hood, but they're even more insidious than this.
What else are they going to do?
unidentified
They're trying to take down a monument in Arlington National Cemetery that was put there in the early 1900s as a reconciliation between North and South.
After the Spanish-American War of 1898, where those from the South and those from the North fought side by side together under one flag, they decided that it would be a good idea to create a monument in Arlington to commemorate basically the love that we have for each other right now, as Woodrow Wilson said.
So they created this monument.
Every president on Memorial Day has sent a wreath to that monument since its inception, including Barack Obama.
And now the 2021 NDAA, through the Naming Commission, wants to remove this monument because they say it commemorates the Confederacy.
It does not.
What it does is it commemorates reunification.
And so they're calling it, it is called the Reconciliation Monument between North and South.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yes.
unidentified
And they want to take it down literally on the 18th of December.
And so I led a letter that has the Chairman of House Armed Services and Chairman of Defense Appropriations on it, telling them, stop, do not do this because in the 2024 appropriations, I put in an amendment that would defund the Army's ability to do it.
And it passed the House.
And it passed the floor in the House too.
So it's in the bill, in the Defense Appropriations Bill, not the NDAA, but the Defense Appropriations Bill.
Which is why it's so important that we need to get these, and that bill we passed.
So that has to be then conferenced in the Senate, so that we can actually get the President to sign the Defense Appropriations Bill.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Pablo, as a grandson, my great-grandfather was, although I was born in Virginia, He was with the 1st Maine Cavalry, Sgt.
Charles Jack.
So as a great-grandson of a Union non-commissioned officer, I fully support the Reconciliation Statue.
It's been a monument that people have revered for over 100 years.
So bring our country together.
unidentified
It absolutely is.
Navy Secretary, when the North Vietnamese and South Vietnamese, when they came over here after, you know, it was a few years back, he took them to the reconciliation monument and said, if we can, if we can, if we can do it, you can do it too.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And they did it, as an example.
One last thing before we go.
You take exception, but I want the audience to understand this.
When I'm sitting there dismissive of $40 billion, dismissive of these cuts and saying, hey, we're $2.5 trillion, we need massive cuts, And we need them now, immediately.
We need that sense of urgency.
Give me your counter of why even those are things we need now.
unidentified
Well, you know, with respect to the massive national debt, $40 billion, you're right, isn't a whole lot.
But, when it comes to de-weaponizing and de-funding these agencies, like the Department of Justice, $40 billion… They only respond to money.
That's correct.
That's the only thing that folks in Washington, D.C.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Is that a lesson you've learned up here?
unidentified
Yes, it is.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's not high principles.
unidentified
It's money.
It's money and money only.
So $40 billion is huge when it comes to, when their budget literally, you know, the FBI's budget's $11.3 billion.
You know, you cut $3 or $4 billion out of that, you're taking 30, 35, 40 percent out of their budget.
That's massive.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Talk to us about, you're looked at as one of the champions of gun rights here in the Capitol.
Just before you go, we've got a minute or two.
ATF, are you going to defund the whole thing?
unidentified
Well, somebody still has to enforce good law, and there is good law that keeps firearms out of the hands of bad people, okay?
But, my appropriation... So you're prepared to buy 80%?
We cut it by a lot.
We took them back down to their 2009 appropriation, which literally takes them from $1.7 billion down to $1.054 billion.
So, you know, you've got a $700 million cut for the ATF.
That's a massive cut.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Can that get through?
unidentified
Well, the amendment was made in order on the floor, so we're going to put people on record as to whether it does or not.
I'm hoping it does.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Last thing, Mike Johnson being a good man, what would you recommend this audience when they call Mike Johnson's office?
Because call they will.
unidentified
And I hope they do.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What should be the message from the Warren posse to Speaker Johnson, with all, you know, grace and politeness, etc.
What is the message you believe, as a supporter of his, he needs to hear?
unidentified
He needs to hear, fear not.
Fear not.
Right there.
Fear not.
Don't let this Washington, D.C.
establishment make Make you make decisions by fear.
And that's the issue right here.
They will do it.
They will tell you everything in the world to make you afraid.
And you can't be afraid.
You have to stand strong.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Commander, where do people go for your website and your social media?
unidentified
You can go to Clyde.house.gov.
And if you really want to look at what Biden's done, go to forward slash Biden crime family.
And I've got all the evidence right up there on my website.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You're voting for the impeachment inquiry tomorrow?
unidentified
Absolutely.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Are we going to have a sense of urgency?
Are we going to get on with it on that?
unidentified
Yes, we are.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You believe he should be impeached?
unidentified
I certainly believe he should be impeached.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
For bribery?
unidentified
Oh, and other things.
But bribery, definitely.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Commander Clyde, you're an audience favorite here for many reasons.
I need a naval officer to come over today and make me feel better.
I was a little bit in the mumble tank.
What in the hell is going on here?
Get this ship squared away.
unidentified
That's right.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Commander, thank you so much.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
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