Dec. 9, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| It's Saturday, 9 December in the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| Thank you for joining us on your Saturday morning. | ||
| I know you're probably going around with your Christmas shopping or your holiday rounds and Really, thank you for joining in here. | ||
| The second hour is going to be pretty packed with some of the best guests we've had. | ||
| I've got Phillip Hacker from Birchgold, and Phillip, thank you so much for joining us here, and I'm glad we're doing it on a Saturday so we can take a little more time. | ||
| It's not kind of the constant tension we're under. | ||
| When there's live news breaking during the week. | ||
| So something happened this week. | ||
| You got to help me think this through because Philip and his team are kind of my co-authors of the research part where we do the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| And I can't recommend enough of, you know, we told you guys and I promised you if you watch this show, That we will put out the information that you don't need to go get an MBA. | ||
| If you need the ticket punch, you got to get that fine. | ||
| But we're going to put out enough information from my years at Georgetown, getting a master's in national security and getting an MBA from Harvard, that we will put that information out there. | ||
| That you can, you know, you absorb it over time and have enough of a framework of how to ask questions and get to the bottom of things that really is what the business school is all about, plus some rudimentary financial skills. | ||
| Philip, and that's why the end of The Dollar Empire I'm very proud of. | ||
| We've been two years, maybe two and a half years now, of writing it. | ||
| So we were ahead of this curve in warning people what was going to happen. | ||
| Philip, I want to take you, in this audience, I want to go to the United Arab Emirates this past week. | ||
| And nobody's connecting this and it's pretty stunning to me. | ||
| And in Abu Dhabi, right? | ||
| And Abu Dhabi is the financial capital of the kind of the Middle East. | ||
| And you've had Ray Dalio and you had you had, I think, Ken Griffin. | ||
| He had Larry Fink. | ||
| All these guys went over the week before COP 28, which is the big You know, climate change conference, and they were saying how Abu Dhabi is going to be the new kind of the middle market. | ||
| It's going to be between New York and London and Singapore and Tokyo and Shanghai, and it'll be open. | ||
| You know, the time it's open is going to be incredibly important. | ||
| You can do 24 hour trading, etc. | ||
| It's new financial capital of not just the Middle East, but the central area, Eurasian landmass, and really hinting that could overtake London and New York in due time. | ||
| There you had COP 28, and COP 28 is really essentially a reparations conference of how to get money from the industrialized West, guilt-tripped them to sending the money to the third world through the phony hook of climate change. | ||
| Abu Dhabi is about, I don't know, 50 or 60 miles up the road, and they drive 130 miles an hour, so it's, I don't know, it's 20 minutes away. | ||
| There you had Putin shows up, and Putin shows up and nobody in the media covered it. | ||
| He had a Russian, advanced Russian military combat aircraft They came in like the Blue Angels, or like the British guys, and they're trailing the colors of the Russian flag. | ||
| They do a flyover. | ||
| He shows up on the red carpet with our ally, Mohammed bin Zayed, who I say is the best guy in the Middle East, the most pro-American. | ||
| They're there with him on the same week that he announced that, hey, I don't know if we're going to use the petrodollar anymore. | ||
| I think what we're going to do is we're doing deals with the Chinese and others, and we're going to take the currency risk with those guys. | ||
| But we're not going to do the petrodollar. | ||
| Can you tie those together for me, and particularly how I think now more than ever, people said they go, you know, maybe I want to hedge against all this madness. | ||
| Maybe I'll check with Philip Patrick of the team. | ||
| Maybe gold might be the answer for me, right? | ||
| Tie together COP and Dubai with Putin and the end of the petrodollar up the road in Abu Dhabi, sir. | ||
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Of course. | |
| I mean, and by the way, let's look at what's been happening to gold as well. | ||
| Gold has surged in this climate, hitting all-time highs over the last weekend. | ||
| And it's this stuff that's driving it. | ||
| At the end of the day, Putin, China are getting sick of the West, right? | ||
| They have been holding a lot of U.S. | ||
| debt. | ||
| By holding U.S. | ||
| debt, they are strengthening the dollar. | ||
| And that is a stick that we have been using ultimately to beat them with. | ||
| And I think they've gotten to a point Well they said enough is enough and like you said at this point they're willing to take some currency risk to de-dollarize because ultimately longer term it'll weaken the dollar, it'll weaken our strength on the international stage and it'll give them an opportunity to take some more control. | ||
| So we're not aiding things domestically either, right? | ||
| On the back of global de-dollarization, Powell came out recently with some very dovish comments, right? | ||
| Ultimately you know, he had a shot here to ease, you know, to push back against easing financial conditions and growth in risk on assets. And he blew it. And in my mind, you know, he told us that rates were well into restrictive territory, which assured that not only would there not be more rate hikes, but he contradicted his prior warning that it's premature to speculate when the Fed might ease. In other words, it's a clear signal to the world that the Fed is willing to sacrifice | ||
| the dollar in order to prop up risk assets. You combine this with what's happening on the international stage, and we're playing into the hands of Russia and China. We're making it an easy decision. And actually, Surprisingly, a sensible financial decision to start to de-dollarize. | ||
| It's all becoming very concerning. | ||
| This is what, and you got to the point, the first part was the geopolitical uncertainty out there. | ||
| The second is, because that's the two converging forces that's causing this, the financial risk and particularly the dollar as the prime reserve currency, coupled with the geopolitical. | ||
| I hear around here all the time, and I just want to go back and re-emphasize what you just said, Because this is what I'm hearing about, because you look at this jam that Biden and these guys are in, and people say, oh, no, no, no, their plan is, and Powell's going to do it, and they're going to just trash the dollar, right? | ||
| Sacrifice, trash the dollar. | ||
| They're going to try to cut rates because they got to. | ||
| This thing is not working for them, and they can't. | ||
| The last thing they can have is even a scintilla of a recession. | ||
| So walk me through that. | ||
| How does that affect Those macro, we're not here to give personal financial advice, but those two macro things, a government that clearly now is so addicted to spending that they can't back off now because they're within a year of a general election, coupled with the geopolitical forces, most of which are being driven Negatively, by those same forces, because they say, look, maybe MAGA has to suck on that. | ||
| Maybe the deplorables have to suck on that because they're U.S. | ||
| citizens, but we certainly don't have to suck on that, right? | ||
| There's got to be an exit for us, and they're looking for the exit. | ||
| Philip Patrick. | ||
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Yeah, they are looking for an exit. | |
| And gold buying, by the way, by central governments, we've said before, last year, an all-time record for history. | ||
| This year, we're 14% ahead of last year. | ||
| So we'll end this year as the biggest year in history. | ||
| And we're seeing a flight from the dollar everywhere. | ||
| That's why gold prices have hit all-time highs. | ||
| People are looking for the safety of hard currency such as gold. | ||
| Look at Bitcoin, though. | ||
| It's surging as well, far from its previous all-time highs, but it's being driven by the same force. And the Fed are in a very tough situation. They've got a credibility problem at the moment, right? The inflation is double the Fed's target. | ||
| But we're seeing Powell now turn into Arthur Burns, right? Arthur Burns was the Fed chair under Nixon who made sure... I know, it's an insult to say the least. But it's frighteningly similar, Steve. | ||
| I mean, he made sure to keep credit cheap during Nixon's re-election campaign, during an inflationary disaster. | ||
| The fiasco that Burns created took a decade to resolve, but here's the problem, and I know you know it, We don't have a decade this time. | ||
| The nation is already too close to the brink. | ||
| Government debts have grown 4,400 percent since 1978 when Burns left office, and it's no surprise now that the dollar's being dumped worldwide as its value plummets. | ||
| And you said it yourself, even friendly nations, it is becoming a bad financial decision to hold on to the U.S. | ||
| dollar. | ||
| So domestic policy is playing into Foreign policy, which is escalating the problem all around. | ||
| So I've said for a while, you know, we're almost at the point of no return. | ||
| The longer time goes on, the more true that feels. | ||
| When you go back to Arthur Burns, one of the reasons to go to Birchgold and get The End of the Dollar Empire, the fourth installment, and we do Debt Trap, we do The Politics of Currency, we do The Prime Reserve Currency, The Dollars, The Prime Reserve Currency, we'll get you up to speed and knowledgeable about all of it. | ||
| The fourth installment is kind of shocking. | ||
| In fact, the fourth installment is so shocking About how he came off really the gold standard, the convertibility of the dollar into gold, over a weekend. | ||
| Just over a weekend in August, right? | ||
| With Arthur Burns and these guys at Nixon. | ||
| And the thing that shocks me, and I keep talking about it, I talk about it in there, I've read every book, I've read every transcript of stuff that came out of there, you never see Philip You never see really talk about projections. | ||
| They're not like, they're not sweating over mathematical models. | ||
| It's kind of like all this rhetoric and discussion and, you know, big guys talking big talk. | ||
| But I never see it really a hard analysis. | ||
| And you think a second, third, fourth order magnitude problems. | ||
| Arthur Burns and what Nixon's did, you said a decade. | ||
| Remember, it destroyed, really, Carter's administration, and Reagan came to power. | ||
| Reagan came to power because fixing the economy. | ||
| It wasn't even the international situation, which was bad, and he had a solution. | ||
| People thought he was a tough guy. | ||
| It was what he and Volcker were to do to wring it out of it. | ||
| It took a decade, and it was devastating to the United States. | ||
| Now, to Philip Patrick's point, We ain't got that balance sheet. | ||
| We had virtually no debt at the time. | ||
| We had a balance sheet you could do some stuff with, some capacity. | ||
| We were a advanced manufacturing powerhouse. | ||
| We were the center of the manufacturing world. | ||
| That ain't true. | ||
| We shipped those jobs in the manufacturing over to China. | ||
| We are not that nation. | ||
| And with 34 trillion, remember, at the end of next week, we're going to pass a trillion dollars from September 18th. | ||
| That's insanity right now. | ||
| It's total insanity. | ||
| Philip, we've got a couple minutes to break. | ||
| I've got to bring this up. | ||
| When I mentioned last week, and you helped me, your team did it, and as you remember, I was sitting there going, no, that can't be right, because we did so many executive orders with President Trump, we kind of became experts on how they're issued. | ||
| This thing that's taking us off the gold standard was just an executive order. | ||
| In fact, they had to use what's called an emergency executive order, because they couldn't go to the Office of Legal Counsel. | ||
| All executive orders, including the ones we did on the travel ban, Go to the Justice Department, which has an internal law firm of like their top brains. | ||
| They write you an opinion. | ||
| Yes, this is inside the Constitution. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| So when you go to the Supreme Court, this is how you argue. | ||
| It's called the Office of Legal Counsel. | ||
| They got no opinion. | ||
| This thing was slapped together over a weekend. | ||
| It's been around for, I don't know, 50, 60, 70 years. | ||
| I kind of mentioned, hey, we're probably going to review that on the first day of the second Trump term. | ||
| They went to full meltdown. | ||
| Bannon says they're going to take off to the gold standard. | ||
| But, Philip, it is something that should be reviewed. | ||
| Do you not agree? | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| It's had the biggest effect on monetary fiscal policy here in the United States for the last 60 years. | ||
| For something to be pushed through like that with very little review, it just makes absolutely no sense. | ||
| So the idea to review the structure, I think, is a very difficult thing to argue. | ||
| But yeah, it's absurd. | ||
| This was one of the most important historical events, and it was, like you said, pushed through over a weekend. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| No, they went to camp. | ||
| They had done some work beforehand. | ||
| They talked about it. | ||
| They gathered everybody on like a late Friday morning. | ||
| They went up to Camp David. | ||
| Some drove. | ||
| President Nixon took the helicopter. | ||
| By Sunday night, I think they had preempted Bonanza, and he's addressing the nation. | ||
| Oh, by the way, effective like before the markets opened, You're no longer can convert the dollars into gold. | ||
| It like was the biggest shock in history and you say well naturally if you do an executive order has that long of a thing you take it to a take it you got to make it you got to go and make a law it's got to be permanent. | ||
| There ain't no way, dude. | ||
| American people? | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| You're going to take to the House and the Senate? | ||
| You want to see the American people rise up? | ||
| Unify? | ||
| You want to unite the country? | ||
| I can unite the country. | ||
| Take a law that says you're going to go off the gold standard. | ||
| Your dollar's not going to be where it's going to be, a fiat currency. | ||
| That would unite the country. | ||
| That would be 90%. | ||
| All the pitchforks would come out. | ||
| Phillip, hang on for a second. | ||
| We're going to go to the second hour. | ||
| What I'm going to ask you in the second block. | ||
| is particularly for those people uh... who are not gold bugs or people not familiar with it the geopolitical forces the the the financial forces and we see it this week folks unless we do our job on monday and tuesday they're leaving thursday or friday and they ain't coming back until january with like ten days ago before guess what the next c-r runs out so the whole point is the converging forces of geopolitics uncertainty and of course | ||
| Really, the financial irresponsibility of the ruling class of this nation. | ||
| It's not your fault. | ||
| You didn't cause it. | ||
| All you're doing is working away hard. | ||
| Philip Patrick of Birchgold. | ||
| Go to birchgold.com and get The End of the Dollar Empire. | ||
| It's totally free. | ||
| You will come out wiser after you've gone through all four episodes. | ||
| We're going to work on another installment right now. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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We'll be right back in a moment. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| Thanks, welcome back. | ||
| You know, we teamed up with Birch Goal, I think it's been about three years ago now, and I think Goal was like 1730, and now, what, it hit 2100 the other day. | ||
| And we're not here to give personal financial advice. | ||
| In the show, what we try to do is give you access Like if it's coffee to Tej Gill, we think he's dedicated his life and after serving his nation has come back and made the best. | ||
| Or like the guys at Meriwether Farms, right? | ||
| They take this time, this young woman who's in the campaign with me, worked for me in 16 in the White House and state, decided afterwards she wants to be an entrepreneur, goes out and does this amazing beef out there in Wyoming. | ||
| We always try to give you access to the best and the Birch Gold guys have been just terrific. | ||
| And working together, one of the first things we said is, let's try to explain this to people. | ||
| You don't need assessment. | ||
| You got to just explain the forces that are out there in the world and why gold. | ||
| And this is in particular, I said, hey, if guys are not gold bugs or particularly guys, not the Rand Paul, Ron Paul set. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're just the average Americans. | ||
| They say, hey, look, the dollar is the dollar. | ||
| And, you know, I don't these gold guys. | ||
| A lot of these guys are nutcases. | ||
| I don't want to do this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We can't go back to a gold standard. | ||
| Let's just explain how we got here and why gold has been a hedge. | ||
| Because one incontrovertible fact is that gold has been a hedge against turbulent times in mankind's history. | ||
| You always see it revert back to that. | ||
| So why is it, why are we now, in your professional opinion, Philip, at an all-time high? | ||
| Particularly now we live in a different world in the Middle Ages. | ||
| You've got ancient Egypt, or the Roman Empire, even the British, or the Spanish, you know, when they were getting all the silver and throwing it. | ||
| Now you're in a world of almost perfect information, right? | ||
| You've got social media, you've got so much financial analysis out there. | ||
| Geopolitical, you've got people that focus on every different parts of geopolitics. | ||
| You're overwhelmed with information. | ||
| One of the things we try to do on the show is to make sure that we can actually give you a structure in how to think about it, so then you can put the information in and kind of have some ability to get knowledge, wisdom, and understanding and discernment. | ||
| So in your mind, having been, dedicated your life to this, why are we at an all-time high and where do you, I understand you don't predict where gold is going to go, but just those forces that are driving this, where do you see them going? | ||
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Look, I mean, sadly for the nation, it is a perfect storm in terms of the drivers for gold price. | |
| We're talking a lot about the problems that we have, right? | ||
| Leading up to this year, we were dealing with an inflation problem. | ||
| We still have today. | ||
| We're seeing markets right now that are looking shaky at best. | ||
| We're dealing with a world that is currently running away from the dollar in their droves. | ||
| These things, of course, all very negative. | ||
| very positive drivers for safe haven commodities like gold and silver, particularly when we look at what's happening with the dollar. | ||
| Nations around the world are watching the Federal Reserve printing money into oblivion, devaluing the dollar. | ||
| And of course, even for those friendly nations out there that are holding dollars to trade, it becomes a significant issue. | ||
| If the dollar's lost 16% purchasing power in the space of three years, it starts to become a problem for nations and their reserves. | ||
| So we've been seeing globally a flight from the dollar. | ||
| And of course, there are very few safe havens in climates like this. | ||
| And gold is picking up a lot of that. | ||
| But I will say something. | ||
| Gold has hit an all-time high. | ||
| time high in terms of monetary dollar amount. But, you know, if we adjust to inflation, the real high was back in the 1980s, inflation adjusted 3,300 an ounce. So given where we are, given what's in front of us next year, I think we could see a very strong year for gold and it's a reflection of, like I said, all of the very tough stuff that we're dealing with economically. So every cloud has a silver lining. And I would say gold is that. | ||
| That the real price of gold being at over 3,000 was towards the end of that, towards the end of what Volcker and Reagan had to do to take all the problems out of the system, which those two guys were heroes because they took so much incoming, it was unbelievable. | ||
| I just want one last thing for people to know, and this is a constant, and we're seeing this, quite frankly, on Speaker Johnson, and should never leave this week with this financial crisis and not addressing the spending. | ||
| You know, people said at the time that if they want the gold, that the guns and butters policy of basically Johnson, the Great Society being the butter, the guns being Vietnam, that Nixon wanted to continue that, they didn't want discipline. | ||
| One of the things we know is an incontrovertible fact from what they did in 1971 over that August weekend, is they did take off the controls As long as the dollar was the prime reserve currency, as long as the American empire was out there, all over hell's half acre, backed up by American military muscle, and that would be the sons and daughters of this audience, and many of the people in this audience, that you could continue to print money. | ||
| And that's why what's happening in UAE, that's what's happening in Saudi Arabia, when these quote-unquote allies are telling you because you're destroying them financially, That they gotta get, somehow they gotta get off the petrodollar. | ||
| That shows you that all fiat currencies, essentially, if you look at world history, always end up like this, don't they, Phillip? | ||
| Every prime reserve currency, whether it's the pound, the Spanish, what, doubloon, all of them, they all end up being, they all end up at the end of the day in the same situation. | ||
| And I say it's because of human nature. | ||
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It's absolutely. | |
| And by the way, that is with no exception. | ||
| And as you know, and I've mentioned it before, but when Nixon took us off the gold standard in 71, it was the first time in history that a global reserve currency has not been supported by gold. | ||
| And nations around the world came to the U.S. | ||
| in delegations and said, look, if you do this, what is going to prevent printing money, devaluing currency, basically the situation we are in today? | ||
| The response at the time, again I think I've mentioned before, was very famous. | ||
| It was from John Connolly. | ||
| And Connolly said, listen, the US dollar is our currency, but it's your problem, right? | ||
| And in 1971, the point is, there wasn't a great deal anyone was going to say to that. | ||
| But the problem now, 50 odd years down the line, is twofold. | ||
| Number one, the key to a global reserve currency is that it is a stable store of value. | ||
| Well, the dollar losing 16% in three years, that argument starts to weaken. | ||
| Secondly, if you want to act as the world's policeman, and you use your currency as a weapon one too many times, there's going to be a point when the world turns around and says, eh, enough is enough. | ||
| And my fear is that we've reached that point. | ||
| No, I think the drop in purchasing power of the Saudis and the UAE understand it, and using it as a weapon. | ||
| I kept telling people, that's a silver bullet. | ||
| You've got to use that for the CCP. | ||
| If you use it for anybody else, they're going to get tired of it. | ||
| The SWIFT system and this, and you're going to be done. | ||
| And look at Russia. | ||
| They tried to take down the Central Bank of Russia, and guess what? | ||
| They failed. | ||
| Philip Patrick, I want to make sure everybody gets access to you and the advisors over at Birch Gold. | ||
| Where do folks go? | ||
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Very simple. | |
| Birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| Again, Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon. | ||
| That'll get them free information kit on how to invest in gold, as well as the end of the Dollar Empire series, which everyone should read. | ||
| Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon. | ||
| Brother, thank you and thank you, uh, the partnership we've got and the ability. | ||
| I know we're going to work on the, uh, on the, on the fifth installment. | ||
| It'll be, cause folks, just to, and I don't know how Johnson and these guys are going home. | ||
| January is going to be another firestorm. | ||
| This is going to be a huge, nasty fight. | ||
| You're going to get to the 19th, you got this, you got this CR, the two-tier CR, you got the, what, I don't know, the 2nd of February or something. | ||
| They're going to be voting in, they're going to be voting in Iowa, they're going to be voting in New Hampshire, and we're in the middle of another fight, and here's what they're going to do. | ||
| Just like here, they're going home, they're going to try to kick the can down the road. | ||
| And if you say, well, Steve, how does this affect my life? | ||
| You know, what is it? | ||
| Pull out your credit card statement. | ||
| When you see that 30% APR, that's, go back, that's what this discussion's about. | ||
| It's destroying your life. | ||
| It's destroying, the harder you work, the poorer you're getting right now. | ||
| Just remember that. | ||
| The harder you work, the poorer you're getting. | ||
| Philip Patrick, thank you, and the team over at Birchcolt, really appreciate it, brother. | ||
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Dave. | |
| The harder you work, the poorer you get. | ||
| They took the controls off them. | ||
| And back then, as Connolly said, it's our currency but your problem. | ||
| Because we were a financial and we were a manufacturing superpower. | ||
| A superpower. | ||
| And they had to take it. | ||
| They ain't got to take it now. | ||
| Folks, the trailing 12 months have been $2.5 trillion of a deficit. | ||
| $2.5 trillion. | ||
| Somehow that's going to be paid for. | ||
| How do you finance it? | ||
| The Chinese got all the bonds they want. | ||
| They're dumping the bonds because of the problem with the dollar. | ||
| The Japanese insurance companies got all the bonds they want. | ||
| Japanese government. | ||
| You got to continue to print currency. | ||
| That's how you do it. | ||
| It's only going to get worse. | ||
| Mike Davis talks all the time about the breakdown of the rule of law and weaponizing law for his republic ending. | ||
| That may or may not be true because I think you can fight back for that and you're seeing fight back on it. | ||
| It's going to be tough as a struggle. | ||
| One thing that is Republican-ing is the spending, because you can't, you get to a certain level, you can't pull it back. | ||
| That's what I was explaining right now. | ||
| Do you notice nobody else talks about, except this show, that on September 18th, we passed $33 trillion, and by December 18th, we're going to pass $34 trillion. | ||
| Within 90 days, we're going to add $1 trillion. | ||
| Is there any pandemic out there? | ||
| Is there any massive problem with lack of aggregate demand? | ||
| Is there any military conflicts? | ||
| You've got Ukraine, we've shut that down, or Israel, and you've got what's happening in Guyana, others, South China Sea. | ||
| But I'm talking about a war that would suck up resources like World War II. | ||
| Is there anything, any extraordinary, extraordinary event? | ||
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| It's just, it's so damn big, like the rent's too damn high. | ||
| It's so damn big, it's the law of large numbers now. | ||
| The deficit's $200 billion a month. | ||
| That means every five months, another trillion dollars. | ||
| You can't, for this audience to understand, we will never pay off, nor your children, nor your grandchildren, or if you're lucky enough, your great-grandchildren, will never pay off one penny of the face amount of that debt. | ||
| The opportunity cost, The crowding out in the financial capital markets will be just paying the interest, which this show is the first to tell you is going to be a trillion dollars, and now I'm telling you it's going to be 1.25 trillion a year. | ||
| Bigger than the Defense Department, bigger than Social Security, bigger than Medicare, bigger than all of it, and only going to get bigger. | ||
| Go to Birchgold. | ||
| Just check it out. | ||
| Immerse yourself. | ||
| I'm not here to give you personal financial advice. | ||
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| The great Saban Howard, one of the great artists of the century, will join us after a short commercial break. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| Money and power. | ||
| It is a spiritual war at the railhead of it, but it manifests itself in this, you know, veil of tears as money and power. | ||
| And that's why we're here, to help this audience, you know, anon. | ||
| Said the other day on MSNBC, we've built a movement. | ||
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| But that movement has empowered people. | ||
| And one of the things we try to do is make sure that you have the inside baseball and how the world works. | ||
| I want to get to that spiritual side to talk about art and the power of art and the power of art in the early parts of the 21st century and how it relates to the better days of our American Republic. | ||
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| Sabin Howard joins us. | ||
| Sabin Howard joins us. | ||
| He's doing this incredible monument, artwork for the Great War, the war to end all wars that will be installed Uh, in the fall of, um, of 2024, uh, in time for the, not Veterans Day here, but Remembrance Day throughout the world. | ||
| Sabin, we just went to Pearl Harbor and, you know, I was able to talk about the honored dead and talk about, uh, some, and it was people, it was overwhelming. | ||
| People came to me and said, We don't talk about that anymore. | ||
| We don't talk about the sacrifice. | ||
| We don't talk about, you know, you do a little clip, and on Pearl Harbor, the news, CNN would do like a 30-second clip, Fox would do 30 seconds, and you might see a veteran. | ||
| They would go, and these stories are heart-rendering, but they're more than just the individual stories. | ||
| It's also about what the nation did as a nation. | ||
| Walk me through in your art, why have we kind of lost that connection? | ||
| If you go to Gettysburg, you go to these places and you see not just the battles they fought, but then how they memorialize it later so that you could sit there and you could see it and feel it forever. | ||
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So it's a big change that occurred about a hundred years ago. | |
| You lose the concept of divine order and it's replaced because of World War I, because of 22 million deaths. | ||
| Just wipes off the map, the idea of God and sacredness. | ||
| And all of a sudden it's replaced with this concept of man as an alienated being and the universe run by chaos. | ||
| That's everything's completely random and art and life are not separate items. | ||
| They are intermeshed. | ||
| They are two things that are just feeding off each other. | ||
| And as an artist, I'm keenly aware of this because I went to Uh, art school in the eighties and in the eighties, they still taught the figure. | ||
| The figure is who we are. | ||
| It is, um, it, how you represent yourself on a visual level. | ||
| So art can be considered a visual narrative. | ||
| And if you, if you, if you make an art form that elevates human beings, you're really looking back at history and saying that history is important. | ||
| And we need to maintain that history because we learn about our country and, and, and in the hopes that we don't repeat those same mistakes. | ||
| And at the same time, it creates our culture as well. | ||
| And that culture is something that is very, very important to maintain and hold on to because it's the identity of a group of people, a country. | ||
| And so that you have this intermeshing ideology of the culture and humanity are intermeshed. | ||
| And so it's, if you, if you don't pay attention to human beings, It's, it's like throwing everything out. | ||
| It's like throwing out your history. | ||
| And what do you have? | ||
| Then you have zero, you have nothing. | ||
| And it's very sad for me to watch right now that what, what I learned in the last, I guess it's, you know, 35, 40 years of sculpting. | ||
| It's just vanished. | ||
| It's been wiped off the map. | ||
| And so my, my vision, my goal, what do I have to do? | ||
| What is my Dharma as a human being? | ||
| It's to play forward. | ||
| The rich tradition is our heritage in the art world that goes back to the Greeks, the Romans, the Renaissance times. | ||
| And so then what do I talk about? | ||
| I talk about my country and the things that are important to this country. | ||
| And so it's like I'm in a complete revolution to what's happening around me. | ||
| And I speak about humanity as something that needs to be elevated, a spirit that needs to be spoken about rising to the occasion, not Create a culture and a humanity of ironic ideologies. | ||
| And so when you look at the World War I Memorial, which will be put into Pershing Park next year in September, I've been on this now by the time that happens 10 years, I made a story that everyone will understand. | ||
| It's called A Hero's Journey. | ||
| It's about one soldier that Leaves home, leaves his family, joins the Brotherhood of Arms, and enters into a battle. | ||
| That battle transforms him. | ||
| He exits the battle, transforms. | ||
| It's a shell-shocked soldier. | ||
| There are 38 figures that tell this story. | ||
| And then he returns home, handing his daughter the helmet. | ||
| She's the next generation. | ||
| She's World War II. | ||
| So I felt it was really important to do something that Everyone could understand, because why do people go to Washington? | ||
| They go to Washington to understand the history of this country. | ||
| They go there to see what has transpired in the past so they can understand better their culture and who they are as a group of people. | ||
| And so this is a very nationalistic way of merging art and country and having pride in being an American. | ||
| And that's where I stand on that. | ||
| So when you see people that are just thrown to the wayside, like veterans, it's very, very sad. | ||
| I can go on about that in a minute if you like. | ||
| I'd like to go back to the divine order. | ||
| In doing this, do you feel that you're just not making a statement for people today to try to understand it, but do you also think that you're honoring those that fought, because before August of 1914, there was, in the Victorian era, this concept of a divine order. | ||
| And then afterwards, shattered by the slaughter in the trenches, but also later, the theory of relativity and advances in science, that people saw that science and technology was used for mass slaughter. | ||
| Do you think that your monument you're building, your art, is also a tribute to those folks to say there was a divine order to all this? | ||
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The type of art that I make is figurative. | |
| My masters, my teachers, come from the Renaissance. | ||
| The Renaissance masters, Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Raphael, looked at nature. | ||
| Nature was where they garnered their information. | ||
| And, and, and if you look at nature, you see the complexity of how things are assembled. | ||
| And that assembly is, it's beyond anything that a computer could create. | ||
| It is human and it is divine at the same time. | ||
| And this is one of the things that I'm really pushing for in this, you know, 60 foot long wall. | ||
| Make something that is easily understood, that speaks about the divine order of who we are as human beings, how we fit into a universe and how there is a hierarchy. | ||
| The art is created with millions of components. | ||
| 38 figure composition it holds together as one unit is a very difficult technical challenge as an artist to make. | ||
| And if it holds one story, That one story, if it's understood by all people from all parts of the world, it's a unifier. | ||
| It's not something that's divisive. | ||
| It takes the concept of universe and then all these parts belonging to that incredible divinity. | ||
| And for me, that's of the greatest importance to make something that everybody can understand and everybody can move forward and spread that word. | ||
| If they go to your website, not just to see the work in progress, and we're going to follow this along very, very closely in 24 as you get ready to actually bring it to the nation's capital, but this understanding of figurative art and what you stand as a unbroken chain back to the Renaissance, Do you have writings about this? | ||
| We try to provide a way for people to immerse themselves, and particularly people who may be working class or haven't had the chance to go to college and go to Harvard or go and study this, but are thirsty for knowledge. | ||
| So where do they begin to understand this? | ||
| I mean, they can see it and they go, yes, I understand that statue. | ||
| And today in this modern, you know, thing, I don't understand it because it's not representative of the divine order. | ||
| It's abstract art. | ||
| But how do we get them to start to understand that there's a deep thought process underneath this? | ||
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That's a really rough question to ask these days because everything's gone to technology. | |
| So you don't have a lot of people moving towards reading books anymore. | ||
| I know this is not exactly what you wanted to hear, but I think something like the Constitution is actually very, it's very similar to what the art is about. | ||
| You read the document of the Constitution, all of a sudden you begin to see that there's this sense of manifestation. | ||
| And that's what, to me, is one of the most thrown away documents of our time right now. | ||
| And it's one of the most Apparently easily accessible documents of our time as well. | ||
| So if people read things like that, like the document, the constitution, it puts you on the right path of understanding about the unity and manifestation and hierarchy and divine order. | ||
| It's, it's, it's a, it's a challenge. | ||
| We're at a moment that's a challenge. | ||
| What the way that I want to handle it is make a documentary about what I've done in the studio over the last 10 years and Put that out into the world so that people can see the intimate creation of something like this and to show that it's done by a human being and that it's not held by schools, art critics, galleries, that it's held by us. | ||
| It's an art that belongs to us, the populace. | ||
| It's not the art of the elite. | ||
| It's an art for everyone. | ||
| And that's a major change. | ||
| It's very radical thinking. | ||
| Can you hang on for one second, Saban? | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| We have Saban Howard, the artist that's completing this memorial for World War I that will be unveiled and rolled out next fall in time for Veterans Day or Remembrance Day. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back with Saban Howard in just a moment. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
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Look at my website, SabinHoward.com, and you can also find me on social media. | |
| On Instagram is Sabin Howard Sculptures. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Sabin, you're doing the Lord's work, so thank you very much. | ||
| Look forward to getting you back on here and drilling down even more. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Populous art that represents the divine order. | ||
| Not too shabby, huh? | ||
| Tej, thank you for being my wingman today. | ||
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| Brother, thank you so much. | ||
| And thank you so much for doing this. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
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| Okay, we're going to end with a song that blew up yesterday. | ||
| Modern Day Holy War from Lady Nogrady. | ||
| That's our own Nicole O'Grady. | ||
| This show got a, I tell you, the song just blew up yesterday. | ||
| People love it. | ||
| We're pushing it all weekend. | ||
| We're going to end today with Modern Day Holy War. | ||
| We'll see you back here Monday, 10 a.m. | ||
| Eastern Standard Time. | ||
| When you'll be in the War Room, I'll be up on Getter all weekend. | ||
| We don't worship government. | ||
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We worship God. | |
| Here I am a little older, a little wiser, a whole lot bolder. | ||
| And I got something to say. | ||
| In this world that we live in, there are secrets that I hid. | ||
| And I can tell you why, but you gotta believe. | ||
| You gotta believe, believe. | ||
| Open your eyes, no time to be blind. | ||
| Open your mind to see we're in a modern day holy war. | ||
| Come in after your mind to find your soul. | ||
| Oh, oh, it's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Modern day holy war. | ||
| Modern day, holy war. | ||
| Challenge your blessings, fear your sin. | ||
| Challenge your blessings, fear your sin. | ||
| No more, no more. | ||
| No more, no more. | ||
| Because Jesus put the light in you. | ||
| Because Jesus put the light in you. | ||
| Little children in a straight line, don't fall behind. | ||
| Little children in a straight line, don't fall behind. | ||
| Modern day holy war. | ||
| Modern day, the television's all they meant to indoctrinate the mind. | ||
| Seeing ain't always believing. | ||
| Doesn't mean it ain't true. | ||
| Oh, and there's an unbearable label right under you. | ||
| We're in a modern day, holy war. | ||
| Coming after your mind to find your soul, oh, it's true. | ||
| Modern day, holy war. | ||
| Challenge your blessings, fear your sin. | ||
| No more, no more. | ||
| Because Jesus put the light in you, light in you. | ||
| Oh, challenge your blessings, fear your service. | ||
| Till His will is done. | ||
| Could you be a thief? | ||
| Could it be true that everything you learned in school was always just a great big stupid lie? | ||
| Things you wouldn't believe, mind, can't conceive, will probably make you break down and want to cry. | ||
| Don't you want to know how to stop the flow of life? | ||
| There's some answers to these problems If you want to solve them Let Jesus love and truth We're in a modern day holy war Holy, holy What are we waiting for? |
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