Dec. 4, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| It's Monday, 4 December in the year of the rule of 2023. | ||
| Thanks for sticking around for the second hour. | ||
| We're going to be packed. | ||
| We've got two hours this afternoon. | ||
| We're followed by Charlie Kirk, Populist Nationalism. | ||
| Remember the Turning Point Conference, 16th to the 19th in the Greater Phoenix area. | ||
| Want to make sure everybody's around. | ||
| Come to what we're going to be broadcasting live. | ||
| War Room's there. | ||
| We're going to do meet and greets, everything. | ||
| So it's going to be fantastic. | ||
| Breakout sessions. | ||
| We want to see you guys even be more fun. | ||
| It is a lot of fun. | ||
| We love doing live shows, seeing all the War Room posse. | ||
| We heard when Joe Allen Did his talk on Saturday night. | ||
| Karen Sigmund told me, you know, half the room is heading to Phoenix to go to Turning Point. | ||
| So make sure you go check it out. | ||
| Go to AmFest right now. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| Check all the different ticket prices. | ||
| We look forward to seeing you. | ||
| I want to, I've got to get this up. | ||
| The Washington Post, in an article over the weekend, and I quote, Bannon's War Room is one of the most popular political podcasts in the United States. | ||
| I want to thank Jeff Bezos and the team over at WAPO, but we're also a live show. | ||
| We're just not a podcast you get later. | ||
| Podcast, because remember, podcast people can take their time and edit it. | ||
| Baby, you just get the show. | ||
| So yes, we're one of the top, always one of the top podcasts in the nation. | ||
| Really behind the pod save America people one of the top podcasts in the nation And we thank our audience for that particularly the podcast audience give us a review But we're live to four hours a day Peter Navarro real quickly. | ||
| I know you got a bounce, but you got to help me on two things I'm going to talk about this piece you've got in the Washington Times, and the Washington Times is the best editorial section in the nation. | ||
| My hat tip to the team over there. | ||
| They're doing a fantastic job in killing it. | ||
| But just the lived experience of people on inflation, because this is why gold's so high. | ||
| This is why the bond markets had the worst bond market since the Civil War getting crushed. | ||
| This is why people's life savings have been destroyed under Biden. | ||
| The lived experience is with APR at 30%, credit card debt at 1.2 trillion, people under 35 are being eviscerated like Russian serfs. | ||
| They're just on the wheel of samsara. | ||
| They can barely keep up. | ||
| They get a bonus to pay down a little bit of credit card debt. | ||
| It's the lived experience. | ||
| Inflation in people's lives is, I don't know, 25, 30, 35, 40 percent. | ||
| It's not the 6 percent that they calculate on buying a TV or camera. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| Inflation is the cruelest tax on folks. | ||
| That's the cliche. | ||
| And historically, for centuries, Steve, for centuries, the best hedge against inflation has been gold. | ||
| And that's why we're seeing gold steadily move up now. | ||
| Now, here's a here's a little subtle thing going on. | ||
| You're seeing in the bond market, you're seeing yields fall and prices rise, which would somehow suggest that inflation is falling. | ||
| But what's really going on there is that these are bets that Wall Street's making that the Federal Reserve is going to stop Hiking interest rates and maybe begin to cut them. | ||
| But remember Steve when they cut or raise it's at the short end of the yield curve the short end of the yield curve. | ||
| So you get this simultaneous thing going on where people in the real world are pushing up gold because they believe there's going to be more inflation. | ||
| Don't forget also that our friends air quotes. | ||
| in China, Russia, Iran and elsewhere are busily, India are accumulating gold now at record pace as a way of creating their own currency. | ||
| Our great ally, and look, I love MBZ, he's one of the strongest, he's a real ally, right? | ||
| Unlike the guys in Europe, he actually spends more than the 2% for his nation. | ||
| He's an ally, punches way above his weight. | ||
| But UAE the other day announced they're getting off the petrodollar. | ||
| They're doing transactions now with the CCP just like the Mullahs in Persia, just like the king of Saudi Arabia. | ||
| They're doing, and they've said they're going to have a program to get out of the whole petrodollar. | ||
| They're going to take the currency risk of doing it right with the CCP. | ||
| So you've got the Persians with the long-term output deal. | ||
| You got UAE with all that oil and gas saying, hey, we're going to go, we're going to de-dollarize here. | ||
| You got the Saudis writing back. | ||
| They've already cut a couple of deals. | ||
| These are, you know, well, the Persians are not, but the Gulf Emirates Or suppose they're allies, and you've got guys talking to Qataris who are the worst demons on earth. | ||
| All they're doing is plotting every day of how to get off the dollar, right? | ||
| I've seen this firsthand, and this is the greatest testament to the power of Donald Trump. | ||
| He could stop all of that with three phone calls to the Saudis, the UAE, and others in the region, and they would stop doing that. | ||
| And I've seen him do that with respect to oil prices a number of times back in the day, the glorious days, the four years in the Trump White House, when we had peace and security and prosperity before the communist Chinese dropped a bioweapon on us. | ||
| So what they're doing over in the Middle East now is a direct response to Joe Biden's foreign policy. | ||
| I mean, you look at the Saudis. | ||
| We get in there, Trump gets in there and negotiates this mega arms deal with the Saudis for their own peace, right? | ||
| And I was to be blessed to be part of moving that along because the bureaucracy was dragging their heels. | ||
| And we saw selling weapons to Saudi Arabia as a way not only of building their defenses, And creating jobs here, but preventing more boots on the ground of American soldiers over there. | ||
| It was very much a win, win for both countries. | ||
| And the first thing Biden does when he gets in there, he starts messing with that kind of stuff. | ||
| I mean, why, why would the Saudis trust Biden? | ||
| Why would UAE trust Biden? | ||
| And so they're doing what we are pushing them to do. | ||
| And I say, we, I don't mean you and me, baby. | ||
| I mean, the Biden regime and Jake Sullivan and those idiots. | ||
| that are over in the West Wing and the National Security Council. | ||
| Hey, I tell people under 30, I tell people under 30, if you like what you got, if you like your lived experience, if you like not having to be able to buy a house, you like an apartment you can't afford, you like a trillion dollars of credit card debt at 30% APR, if you like it, baby, keep voting for it. Get up on TikTok and follow the CCP and just vote for it. Continue to vote for it. If you're a Russian serf, it's not going to change my life, not going to change this audience life. If you like being a Russian serf, keep voting for to be a Russian serf. You're free men and | ||
| women and hey, supposedly you were educated, supposedly educated. | ||
| I gotta bounce. | ||
| Give me this. | ||
| The Washington Times. | ||
| I gotta go back to Fauci and Kadlec. | ||
| What do you have to say about them? | ||
| PeterNavarro.substack.com. | ||
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It's a preview to the Fauci-Kadlec thing. | |
| That was a huge game-changing revelation by Bob Kadlec, the second-in-command And you will see that we need to investigate Fauci. | ||
| I'm hoping that every presidential candidate will support The investigation and prosecution of Tony Fauci and getting to the bottom of how Communist China did what they did to us. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Hang on. | ||
| Ho, ho, ho. | ||
| Yo, yo. | ||
| Why do we have to wait for the presidential candidates? | ||
| Don't go soft on me, dude. | ||
| Why is Mike Johnson not, why are we not getting a criminal referral? | ||
| I mean, Gates recommended this. | ||
| Why is it not a criminal referral? | ||
| Why is it not a criminal referral for Tony Fauci going out this afternoon? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Why do we need to wait for 2024 or 2025? | ||
| Are you going soft on me, Navarro? | ||
| Are you going soft on me, Navarro? | ||
| I will not rest until Tony Fauci is held accountable for using American taxpayer dollars, to be clear, to fund the gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Technology Bioweapons Lab that created the COVID-19 virus killed millions. | ||
| Kaddlik is a member of the deep state. | ||
| Malone is right. | ||
| That announcement, that interview he did with the great Markson, Sherry Markson at Sky News in Australia, because she knows this backwards and forwards, that was a limited hangout. | ||
| That's the Deep State a little bit trying to leak this out there. | ||
| So they said, oh, that's already been covered. | ||
| What are you guys talking about? | ||
| Anyway, Peter, I got to bounce. | ||
| Where do they get to your Substack? | ||
| Where do they get to all your content, brother? | ||
| PeterNavarro.Substack.com. | ||
| PeterNavarro.Substack.com. | ||
| Keep hitting it, Admiral. | ||
| This dictatorship thing, we've got to push back hard on that. | ||
| It's just so ironic that they would try to force that upon us when they're trying to take away our liberties. | ||
| Trump's not going to stand for it. | ||
| That speech in Cedar Rapids. | ||
| Folks out in Cedar Rapids, you had a historic speech. | ||
| There was a couple of Trump, you know, standard campaigns, rally riffs, but the core of it was historic. | ||
| He's not going to put up with this. | ||
| He's had that nonsense. | ||
| He's tearing up the EO. | ||
| Biden, these guys. | ||
| Also, understand, we're going to go criminal prosecutions on all you guys. | ||
| You ain't seen nothing yet. | ||
| You're breaking the law. | ||
| You're putting people in prison. | ||
| You're trying to suppress the American people. | ||
| It's all going to come out. | ||
| All going to come out with facts. | ||
| Send your emails later. | ||
| Send a letter. | ||
| Save your content. | ||
| Okay, thanks brother, appreciate it Peter. | ||
| Don't go soft on me Navarro, don't go soft on me down there in Palm Beach. | ||
| You're getting to be like one of the elites. | ||
| Just keep being a man of the people. | ||
| Keep being a man of the people. | ||
| Don't go soft on me. | ||
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Palm Beach is soft, soft, soft elite. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| The Navarro brothers. | ||
| Peter's brother. | ||
| I've never seen two guys the most opposite. | ||
| Low-key, super nice guy. | ||
| Navarro fighting mad, you know, every day. | ||
| Chris Pavlovsky, Rumble. | ||
| We have a huge, I think we're almost a million subscribers or close to a Rumble. | ||
| We have a huge audience. | ||
| I want to say, Chris, thank you for joining the CEO. | ||
| I want to talk to you about these suits, what's going on with you guys, but and I want to give the Rumble audience a shout out. | ||
| We have a lot of live streams and we have a lot of different audiences and nooks. | ||
| I don't know half a dozen, maybe a dozen different chat rooms. | ||
| Rumble, baby, you gotta be on your game. | ||
| They don't suffer fools gladly. | ||
| It's a pretty rough crowd, but we love them. | ||
| It's big over there. | ||
| We want to thank everybody over there. | ||
| Tell me, they're always trying to screw with Rumble. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Why is why are they always coming after you all the time? | ||
| Okay, but it's on okay you got to unmute guys There we go. | ||
| First off, Steve, thanks for having me on. | ||
| Okay, hold it. | ||
| As CEO of Rumble, I got to teach you, the mute button means you can't go out over Rumble if you take the mute button off. | ||
| Dude, you're killing me here. | ||
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Go ahead, Pavlovsky, the floor is yours. | |
| All right, thanks, Steve. | ||
| First time I've been on your show, so thank you for having me on. | ||
| It's a pleasure to be on. | ||
| I guess we started back in 2013 under the idea of really helping those small creators. | ||
| And then when late 2020 happened, we saw an immense rush of censorship. | ||
| You can call it whatever you want. | ||
| And during COVID and during the election, I believe we were the one holding the line. | ||
| And because we're holding the line on freedom of expression and pushing back against the Uh, all these other companies, uh, we, we seem to be a threat to them. | ||
| Uh, so, you know, in 2021, we ended up, uh, late 2021, we decided that we were going to go public, uh, by 2022, we raised $400 million and, uh, we went public through a SPAC, um, ticker symbol R U M. And now I think we're the tip of the spear when it comes to freedom of expression. | ||
| And we are leading the charge and holding the line when it, uh, and pushing back not only At our scale, I don't think there is any other social media platform that's actually pushing back against governments and pushing back against advertisers and the way that we're doing it. | ||
| We've got to bounce for a break, but I'm going to hold you through it. | ||
| But just a question. | ||
| You're essentially, for the audience, and maybe it's not over at Rumble, you're essentially the alternative to YouTube. | ||
| I mean, you're the free speech alternative to YouTube, right? | ||
| YouTube is the big goliath with Google, but they've restricted free speech. | ||
| I'll tell you, let's answer it on the other side. | ||
| Pavlovsky and the team, through their technology and efforts, have built an alternative platform to the Google giant, right? | ||
| Which is YouTube, which is shutting everybody off, kicking people off. | ||
| They were suppressing it, shadowbanning people, etc, etc. | ||
| What Chris and his team built, and they were able to take it public so they got some capital, is really the free speech alternative to it. | ||
| It's just not conservatives or MAGA. | ||
| I mean, you got Don Jr. | ||
| I just did a great interview with him the other day. | ||
| I love his show. | ||
| Kimberly's over there. | ||
| A ton of folks. | ||
| I think a bunch. | ||
| A ton of folks are over there doing it. | ||
| But it's more than that. | ||
| It's broader than that. | ||
| That being said, they hate Pavlovsky and the team. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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What you're sort of getting at here is Christian nationalism, right? | |
| I haven't read the book yet, but I read the piece that you put out in The Atlantic about it that ended with the pastor who took over for your father, who was trying to fight the takeover of Trump in the church. | ||
| You asked him what's happened to the evangelicals in America, and he said they love America too much. | ||
| Is that what we're dealing with here? | ||
| Is this what the evangelicals, or at least for some evangelicals that are supporting Trump, morphed into Christian nationalism? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| And listen, Christian nationalism is a loaded term, and it means different things to different people. | ||
| So I think clarifying in this context what the definition is is helpful. | ||
| At the end of the day, if you are a follower of Jesus Christ, you are called to a citizenship in heaven, and you are called to be a part of the kingdom of God. | ||
| And we are warned as Christians throughout Scripture, Old Testament and New Testament, prayers and epistles, all the way through. | ||
| It's not ambiguous. | ||
| That your identity is rooted in heaven. | ||
| Your identity is rooted in following Jesus. | ||
| Unfortunately, I think this love of country, which can be healthy to a point, over-realized among some of these evangelical Christians, has sort of merged two kingdoms into one, and has created this belief that somehow, if America falls, then God himself is defeated. | ||
| When, again, as Christians, we believe that Jesus triumphed over the grave, so there is no such thing as defeat. | ||
| When you begin to think of America as almost this covenant nation, that God has ordained us, God has blessed us, and you are fighting for God by fighting for America, that is Christian nationalism, and that is what has infected much of the church today. | ||
| Is this guy trying to—is that a recruiting video? | ||
| I'm serious. | ||
| This is how twisted they are. | ||
| They think that that's going to turn people off? | ||
| They just gave us a recruiting video? | ||
| This is so good. | ||
| This is so good. | ||
| I'm gonna get back into this. | ||
| I got Lindell. | ||
| I got others. | ||
| We're going to talk about this, but you know, they're trying to scare the nation. | ||
| A nation completely falling apart, the bottom falling out of it. | ||
| Every demographic, every class, every economic category, every ethnicity. | ||
| As Peter said, your heritage. | ||
| The heritage of what's been bequeathed to us for what, 12, 13, 14 generations? | ||
| And that's their pitch? | ||
| That you love your country? | ||
| You love America? | ||
| Here's the thing now. | ||
| Your fans are saying, because you love America too much. | ||
| Dude, that's a 90-10 win. | ||
| Maybe 95-5. | ||
| This is how twisted they are. | ||
| This is not me saying it. | ||
| This is them saying it. | ||
| It's mind boggling. | ||
| Their pitch is, yes, the church, you know, of everything we got wrong in the country with all the depravity and everything, all of it, the biggest problem in the evangelical church, the single biggest problem is that our congregants love America too much. | ||
| Tim, I'm telling you, they love America. | ||
| You know, the problem is they love America too much. | ||
| And since Trump loves America, they love Trump. | ||
| What? | ||
| They just made a recruiting video for us. | ||
| I just want to thank MSNBC. | ||
| Chris Pavzlosky, you've been fighting this fight against YouTube, which, because this gets back to the Schmidt, the cold open. | ||
| This gets back to Axios' big conference where they were laying out to all the elites, hey baby, we got the longest executive order in history. | ||
| The second one, first one was the transhumanism one. | ||
| Now we got AI. | ||
| And Schmidt talks about it. | ||
| We work with MI5, MI6 for the British event, the UK event. | ||
| We've now learned the lessons, longest executive order in history. | ||
| That gives us not just suppression of narrative, but total control. | ||
| That AI, every aspect of government, he says, is going to be around artificial intelligence. | ||
| For total and complete control. | ||
| They're going to show the Chinese Communist Party how it's done, baby. | ||
| Using the power of modern American capitalism, coupled with technology, to control a population. | ||
| That's what YouTube is about. | ||
| YouTube used to kick you off, you were done. | ||
| Until you guys showed up. | ||
| And now you're not done. | ||
| Because you've got an alternative. | ||
| The alternative is Rumble. | ||
| And the reason I love Rumble and I love the live chat, you've got some tough hombres over there. | ||
| I love the audience. | ||
| They give it to you straight every day. | ||
| There's no happy talk. | ||
| They don't want to hear it, right? | ||
| And so you've really built up a community. | ||
| Tell me about it. | ||
| Yeah, you know what the threat really is? | ||
| If you take a look, just when I was on the break right now, I was taking a look at what the biggest live streams are in the United States across Twitch, across YouTube, across Rumble. | ||
| And the three biggest live streams right now are on Rumble. | ||
| One, two, and three. | ||
| And that's your show, that's Dan Bongino, and that's Steven Crowder. | ||
| I think this scares the sh** out of them. | ||
| The fact that Rumble has three of the biggest live streams at this time is a real threat to the system. | ||
| And that's what we have. | ||
| So we've built something pretty amazing. | ||
| Not just that, not just that, Chris. | ||
| Those are three wild men. | ||
| You got Bannon, Bongino, and Crowder, right? | ||
| That's three guys are going to give it to you with both barrels. | ||
| That's what's really got it for them. | ||
| You don't have the Nashville, you don't have Rich Lowry, the Rich Lowry hour. | ||
| This is, you're going to get it with the bark on. | ||
| So how did you build that and why are you attracting such a vast audience? | ||
| Yeah, so, you know, you can get Rumble, you can watch it on across your TVs, you can download the apps on TVs, you can download the apps on your phone, you can watch it on web, you can engage on the chat. | ||
| And the reason why we bought it, obviously, was to, I mean, not bought it, the reason why we started Rumble back in 2013 was to kind of help the small creators have The exact same tools and distribution and just, you know, get an equal fair treatment that, uh, you'd get, uh, that you should get. | ||
| These other platforms are clearly not treating all creators equally and fairly. | ||
| The only thing that we, that we did, uh, back in 2020 and back in 2013 is just treat everybody fairly and equally. | ||
| And that's created us the market that we have right now. | ||
| We're not moving the goalposts like all these big tech companies are. | ||
| They seem to move the goalposts every week, every month. | ||
| They change their terms of service at least. | ||
| At least five or six times a year. | ||
| But for people, it's totally free. | ||
| If you're a consumer, you can just go up, sign up. | ||
| I can just watch it. | ||
| It's totally free. | ||
| Your advertisers support it, correct? | ||
| And sponsors support it. | ||
| But that leads Media Matters and these other groups. | ||
| People should understand, Chris and his team are under 24-hour-a-day assault. | ||
| Tell us about that. | ||
| Yes, this is true. | ||
| We have companies like, or media organizations, or whatever you want to call them, mainstream media in general, Media Matters specifically, is one that attacks us constantly over the past year. | ||
| And it's funny, like, the way they do it is by creating a perception that it's not true. | ||
| It's a false perception. | ||
| They make you believe that Rumble has All these videos and advertisers are advertising on specific videos. | ||
| I even did a post showing exactly what was happening. | ||
| They would write an article saying, you know, here's this Nazi video or whatever they called it. | ||
| And here's a Netflix ad that was placed right underneath the video and they got Netflix to cancel. | ||
| But here's the truth. | ||
| That video that they referenced had zero viewers prior to the day that they wrote about it. | ||
| I'm talking zero, not one, not two. | ||
| So no one saw it except the guy writing the article that created that perception. | ||
| Very similar to what you see happening in the X lawsuit happens on Rumble on a daily basis. | ||
| So we've been fighting against this relentlessly. | ||
| We're fighting against big tech. | ||
| We're in an antitrust suit with Google. | ||
| We just launched a lawsuit against another group called Check My Ads last week or the week before. | ||
| I'm losing my time right now, but we filed against them as well. | ||
| They would be going out there. | ||
| And they were actually saying something. | ||
| They were lying to the public, saying that we're dependent on Google for advertisements. | ||
| They're lying? | ||
| I'm so shocked. | ||
| They're lying? | ||
| These people actually lie. | ||
| I'm so shocked. | ||
| By the way, I'm going to call Madeline Peltz. | ||
| We're going to contact Madeline Peltz. | ||
| She's actually the head of marketing for War Room. | ||
| Now, she works at Media Matters. | ||
| She's on us every day. | ||
| That's what I tell you guys. | ||
| You and And Musk, yo, Media Matters has been doing this for a long time. | ||
| They were all over. | ||
| Their first enemy was Andrew Breitbart. | ||
| So they've been doing this for a long time. | ||
| God bless you on your suits. | ||
| I hope it works out. | ||
| But I'll call Madeleine Peltz and make sure that they give you even more coverage. | ||
| Because for us, it helps us. | ||
| Because every day she's outraged by something we're saying. | ||
| She puts it out there in her outrage. | ||
| And we just get bigger and bigger and bigger. | ||
| So we thank Media Matters. | ||
| We like them covering us. | ||
| But I understand chasing off your advertisers would be bad. | ||
| Chris, how do people find out about Rumble and about all the cases you've got going? | ||
| The Media Matters case, the lawsuit against the guys trying to take your advertisers away, your antitrust against Google. | ||
| Where would they go to find all that? | ||
| Yeah, you can go to corp.rumble.com to kind of see everything about the business, and you can also go to investors.rumble.com to see anything related to investing in Rumble. | ||
| Those are the two places that you can get all this information in terms of the suits that we filed, in terms of all our press releases, and all the latest news on Rumble. | ||
| Now, where can people go just so they want to see what kind of content you got? | ||
| Do you have a homepage you can go to and check out all the different shows? | ||
| At a certain point in time, people have enough of Don Jr. | ||
| and Steve Bannon and Steve Crowder and Bongino. | ||
| They want to see other things. | ||
| Where can they go and just check out the broad offerings you guys have? | ||
| Yeah, you can go to the homepage. | ||
| You can go to Rumble.com. | ||
| You can download the app. | ||
| You can go through the categories of content, the live streams, see which ones are popular. | ||
| It's all sorted by Categories now on the homepage. | ||
| It's also sorted by by live streams in terms of size So you can kind of go through and see all that you can also browse the channels in on the TV apps You can browse the channels on your app And you can search for content that you're looking for as well Okay, the guy is the CEO of Rumble. | ||
| He created Rumble. | ||
| The thing's massive. | ||
| It's been just a free speech platform. | ||
| Is this the first interview you've ever done? | ||
| You've done great, but I never see you interviewed. | ||
| Is this the first interview you've ever done? | ||
| No, I've done a few interviews. | ||
| I did a lot more so like a couple years ago. | ||
| kind of, you know, now that we're public, you know, you got to be careful what you say, you got to tiptoe around things, which kind of sucks. You like to, I like to be pretty open and transparent. So you just got to be a little more careful once you're public. | ||
| So not the first one, but I don't typically do interviews. | ||
| You should do a lot more interviews. | ||
| You're great at explaining. | ||
| The story of Rumble's got to get out there because it's amazing. | ||
| I mean, you've got these companies like Real America's Voice, Rumble. | ||
| These are the bastions of free speech and breaking the narrative. | ||
| You guys are doing an amazing job. | ||
| Chris, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Keep the good work up with the team over there in the Rumble chat. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| The harder you are, the better we get. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| The Getter Chat and the Real American Voyage, you guys are good. | ||
| You know, a little nicer, a little nicer around the edges. | ||
| We're gonna take a short break. | ||
| I'm gonna come back and talk about the Covenant Nation after a short commercial break. | ||
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What you're sort of getting at here is Christian nationalism, right? | |
| I haven't read the book yet, but I read the piece that you put out in The Atlantic about it that ended with the pastor who took over for your father, who was trying to fight the takeover of Trump in the church. | ||
| You asked him what's happened to the evangelicals in America, and he said they love America too much. | ||
| Is that what we're dealing with here? | ||
| Is this what the evangelicals, or at least for some evangelicals that are supporting Trump, morphed into Christian nationalism? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| And listen, Christian nationalism is a loaded term, and it means different things to different people. | ||
| So I think clarifying in this context what the definition is is helpful. | ||
| At the end of the day, if you are a follower of Jesus Christ, you are called to a citizenship in heaven, and you are called to be a part of the kingdom of God. | ||
| And we are warned as Christians throughout Scripture, Old Testament and New Testament, prayers and epistles, all the way through. | ||
| It's not ambiguous. | ||
| That your identity is rooted in heaven. | ||
| Your identity is rooted in following Jesus. | ||
| Unfortunately... | ||
| I think this love of country, which can be healthy to a point, over-realized among some of these evangelical Christians, has sort of merged two kingdoms into one, and has created this belief that somehow, if America falls, then God himself is defeated. | ||
| When, again, as Christians, we believe that Jesus triumphed over the grave, so there is no such thing as defeat. | ||
| When you begin to think of America as almost this covenant nation, that God has ordained us, God has blessed us, and you are fighting for God by fighting for America, that is Christian nationalism, and that is what has infected much of the church today. | ||
| Sign me up. | ||
| I mean, I think this is the best recruiting pitch I've heard. | ||
| Mike Lindell, I know we've got other things to talk about, keeping the factory floor, but given your story and how you were saved and you were a degenerate gambler and a drug addict and just awful, and you've totally turned that around because of your acceptance of Jesus Christ as your Savior, did that sound like a bad thing or what this guy was describing? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| That was absolutely awesome. | ||
| I just did a big event in California on Flashpoint, and this is where we're at. | ||
| We're in a spiritual battle here of biblical, of epic proportions, and this is what it's been. | ||
| And if the gateway is that people love the country, and you're combining the two, yes, I've said it all along, Steve, This is on God's timing, not ours, and he's using all things for good. | ||
| Even like this clip you just showed, that's amazing. | ||
| It's, you know, if they're trying to say, well, people are going more for country than to God. | ||
| No, they're intersecting right now. | ||
| A nation had turned its back on God, and God's given us grace right now for such a time as this, for the greatest revival in history. | ||
| I mean, one of the reasons we have you on is to focus on Mike Pilla because they're trying to destroy Trump and his company and they're trying to destroy you and your company is these Christians that have, like Trump. | ||
| Trump's the American Cincinnati has come back to fight all this. | ||
| This is why they're trying to throw him in prison. | ||
| You're the same thing. | ||
| Your love of country And you're understanding this special place. | ||
| This is the New Jerusalem. | ||
| This special place that God has given us all this grace and all this benefit. | ||
| And the pioneers and the pilgrims made this vast wilderness into the greatest country in mankind's history. | ||
| Created more wealth, freed more people, fought more wars for freedom than any nation in the history of the earth. | ||
| That your love of country has got you flying all over hell's half acre to make these elections fair. | ||
| It's one of the reasons they're coming after the company. | ||
| So, no, that right there is the best recruiting video. | ||
| We're going to play this one all day long. | ||
| And these are haters. | ||
| He's saying the problem in the church. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| The problem we have in the church is people love the country too much. | ||
| No, dude, that's not the problem. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| The church has other real problems. | ||
| It has nothing to do with love of country. | ||
| This is how twisted they are. | ||
| This is how sick. | ||
| He actually thinks by saying that, this is the audience in MSNBC. | ||
| By saying that, they're going, yeah, that's terrible, that's terrible. | ||
| That's the sick, twisted people that watch MSNBC that must be defeated so they no longer can infest, right, the government of this country. | ||
| They all have to be purged. | ||
| Purged, right? | ||
| Anybody would think that was bad has to be purged. | ||
| Tell me, I want to keep the factory floor open. | ||
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800-873-1062. | |
| Mike, we're going to let you go back to work. | ||
| See you on the afternoon show. | ||
| I want to thank you for everything you're doing. | ||
| And people know he's working 20 hours a day on the election integrity stuff. | ||
| There's a lot going on. | ||
| There'll be announcements hopefully later this week and next week of stuff that Mike's doing that I'm glad to work with him on this. | ||
| Honored to work with him. | ||
| A great patriot who loves this country. | ||
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| I mean, I can't believe this. | ||
| Remember, Christian nationalism is the, that's the term that you're like, that you're like the head of the domestic terrorists. | ||
| You're the head of the violent extremists. | ||
| That, you know, what you've done, you know, the formation of young people, it's mind boggling. | ||
| It's absolutely mind boggling, but they're coming hard. | ||
| This is why this speech with President Trump is a major inflection point on the 2024 Campaign the shot last week was very important. | ||
| We go back and do the history of 2024 last week was important. | ||
| Why number one they showed you how they're going to play by putting the shot across about number one was the Axios artificial intelligence announcement in the EO by a Biden to basically put a vast control mechanism in there to control the population. | ||
| The other Was in Arizona, where they put a shot across the bow. | ||
| They put a shot across the bow of the down in Cochise County, you know, a county just like Rosendale. | ||
| I mean, Cochise County is on the southern border. | ||
| Rosendale is up there on the Canadian border. | ||
| Both places have hardworking, good Americans. | ||
| I mean, these are hardscrabble places that you really got to work. | ||
| Uh, to make a living. | ||
| If you get on it, the places are magnificent and beautiful, but man, it takes a special person to do it. | ||
| They took the two supervisors and put two felonies on them for standing up and saying, yo, I'm not so sure. | ||
| I look at this election. | ||
| This is in 22. | ||
| I look at this election in Maricopa County. | ||
| I got to make sure that we've got due process for the citizens down here in Cochise. | ||
| Although we're not a huge population, I've got to make sure this thing was done right so that their votes are not are not wiped out, that they actually count. | ||
| And what they get for that, what these two supervisors get? | ||
| Two felony indictments, two each, with debt, you know, years and years and years in prison, and going to cost them a million dollars to defend, to bankrupt them. | ||
| What Trump had had a belly full, and this is what's so important about Iowa, is that he's seen having nothing else to sell, because remember, Unlike with the Sanctus and Nikki Haley and all those other people, it's not a theoretical discussion of, you know, neoliberal, neocon Nikki, what I'm proposing to do, what I think I'm going to do, and here's what I'm going to do. | ||
| In Trump, you actually have empirical evidence of how he governed the nation as the chief executive of the country. | ||
| You have empirical evidence. | ||
| On the economy, on inflation, on foreign policy, national security, internally, terrorism, attacks, everything, border, southern border, you got it! | ||
| And you got Biden, and you can weigh and measure that, and people can make a decision, and they understand when they look at the polling. | ||
| On the two examples of how they've governed, it's a 10-point spread. | ||
| It may be worse than that, given always the under-reporting of Trump. | ||
| So they're in panic mode to the point that they send out to the National Democratic Committee, this is the people that raised the money for the House, and they think they can take the House. | ||
| They actually put out a memo that says you're not to use the words, Bidenomics is not to cross your lips. | ||
| It's a stiff, people hate it. | ||
| Their lives are terrible. | ||
| They don't see it. | ||
| They think it's all for the elites. | ||
| You got to think of something else. | ||
| So in that, what they've done is that, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. | ||
| So we can't look at the empirical evidence of the two of the two individuals when they were in office. | ||
| What we've got to do is scare the American people that with Trump, you can have him off the chain and you have this fascist, proto-fascist movement around him. | ||
| This Christian nationalist movement that has violent extremism and domestic terrorism and white nationalism and all these terrible, terrible people. | ||
| And that's what we have to do. | ||
| And Trump finally had a belly full of it. | ||
| He said, hang over a second. | ||
| You guys are the biggest anti-democratic forces. | ||
| You run this thing like a totalitarian dictatorship. | ||
| You're throwing people in prison. | ||
| The J6 stuff is so much stuff. | ||
| You got Trump up for what? | ||
| Four indictments, 91 charges, 700 years potentially in prison. | ||
| Stripping his company and putting him into bankruptcy in New York? | ||
| Oh, and by the way, just to show you how democratic we are, we're trying to take him off the ballot in nine states? | ||
| He finally said, no, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna make the case later. | ||
| If that's what they're gonna run on, I'm gonna take that one head on. | ||
| I'm not gonna cede the ground to that. | ||
| And that's why this speech And this Chung and Jason Miller and the other Liz Harrington and the other communications advisors around him and Vince Haley, the people that wrote the speech, it was magnificent because it cut right to the chase. | ||
| It cut to the heart of the argument that Biden's trying to make. | ||
| Given that he can't look at actions, right? | ||
| His agency, what his human agency has produced is a fiasco and a republic ending disasters everywhere you look. | ||
| And now, oh, by the way, just over the weekend we had Venezuela throw in. | ||
| So now we're going to blow up Latin America, South America, which could be a major war over oil. | ||
| With, by the way, people totally underwritten by the, wait for it, Chinese Communist Party in Venezuela. | ||
| No, Trump takes it head on and then he throws down and says, hey, Axios, Mike Allen, Vanderhay, Schmidt, how about this? | ||
| Suck on this. | ||
| The very first thing I'm going to do is rip up your executive order on artificial intelligence. | ||
| Don't spend a lot of time on it because it's done. | ||
| It's gone. | ||
| It's finished. | ||
| And that shows you the stakes of what's going on. | ||
| He gets it totally. | ||
| And this audience gets it. | ||
| And you support last week for us pushing that narrative out, got people's attention. | ||
| And finally, President Trump said, no, we're not going to have this. | ||
| We're not going to do it that way. | ||
| Because America is a special place, and we have a special covenant, and we have a duty and obligation. | ||
| This is the New Jerusalem, and we have a duty and obligation. | ||
| A profound duty. | ||
| And everybody that watches this show and listens to the show, you understand. | ||
| You understand it in your spirit, in your soul. | ||
| It doesn't need to be explained to you. | ||
| But you understand what must be done, and we're doing it. | ||
| And this is what they're in panic mode about. | ||
| And I've told you, you saw the indictments last week of these two supervisors? | ||
| It's only going to get worse. | ||
| They're like a cornered animal. | ||
| And an animal's most dangerous when it's cornered. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to talk about the economy next, in The War Room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Batt. | |
| Okay, uh, Julie Grace, uh, was a Bruefke over at, I think she's still at the Hill. | ||
| Might be wrong about that. | ||
| One of the best reporters out there covering the Hill. | ||
| She's got a scoop. | ||
| It sounds like Doug Burgum, the governor of North Dakota has announced he's suspending his campaign. | ||
| A mighty oak has fallen. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| What is the sound of a Doug Burgum campaign in a forest? | ||
| Can you hear? | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| Uh, governor, it was foolish. | ||
| To try to run against President Trump. | ||
| So you showed a lack of discernment. | ||
| Make up for it. | ||
| Get on the team and we got to win and we got to win big. | ||
| We got to have sweeping wins in the House and Senate. | ||
| It's time to everybody put their shoulder wheel. | ||
| It's a disgrace. | ||
| You saw Fox when they did a President Trump speech and cut in right or they cut right away when he says, hey, he didn't lose the 2020 election. | ||
| Oh, no, you are totally incorrect. | ||
| And we don't care if you wrote an $800 million check or a $1 billion check or a $2 billion check to keep the demon father of all this, Murdoch himself, from being humiliated on the stand, right? | ||
| Which just reinforced all the other problems people have to do with trying to get this right. | ||
| The supervisors in Cochise County are heroes. | ||
| You at Fox TV for stupid people are cowards. | ||
| And for you to cut in on Trump in Iowa and say that crap shows you everything you want to know about what you guys are. | ||
| OK, just like that, the debate with Newsom and DeSantis last week. | ||
| And he should be ashamed of himself. | ||
| Absolute disgrace. | ||
| Everything they do is to try to stop Trump or stop some aspect of Trump. | ||
| One of the things I've been harping on, we're going to spend a lot more on it, I'm going to bring on Done With Debt, Michael Pearson, one of the executives over there is a sponsor now, and we thank them for working with us. | ||
| People, this credit card debt is out of control, and it's going to only get worse. | ||
| It's over, I think it's 1.2 trillion dollars, the big story in CMBC the other day, I put up on Getter, People have a fear of this, and they don't want to address it. | ||
| After it's gotten out of control, and they owe, I don't know, $10,000 or $15,000 or $20,000 on the salary, they're not going to be able to pay it. | ||
| They kind of close down, and they want to avoid it. | ||
| You don't need to avoid it. | ||
| You can address it. | ||
| We want to make sure we're going to push this hard for people just to get information, to find out what the reality is. | ||
| Do not cut off your life, and don't panic, and don't add any more anxiety. | ||
| We need you at the ramparts. | ||
| And we don't need you there being anxious. | ||
| There's no need to be anxious. | ||
| That's why this company done with that and there's others, but we'd like these guys the most. | ||
| Michael, tell us about I want to know how people go and how they have a discussion with you and the advisors over there. | ||
| Just to relieve their anxiety, understand it's not the end of the world. | ||
| It can be addressed. | ||
| It's like anything else that takes human agency. | ||
| You can address this. | ||
| Walk us through how people get your thing, particularly the audience out there saying, man, these credit cards got out of control with me. | ||
| And now these interest rates, I'm just not going to be able to get out of here. | ||
| And I don't know what to do. | ||
| Walk us through where they go and who they talk to. | ||
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Where do they go? | |
| They can go to donewiththat.com. | ||
| Fill out a quick little questionnaires. | ||
| Four questions in regards to how foreign that you are. | ||
| Are you keeping up with the minimums? | ||
| Are you just paying the minimum, paying over the minimum, or you're already in trouble and missed a couple of payments on the credit cards? | ||
| You're right, Steve. | ||
| When we speak to people that call us here for help and they speak to one of our professionals in tax relief, the major deal is they picked up that 40 pound phone and asked us for help. | ||
| That's the hardest part. | ||
| Um, the economy is not doing so great and just feels like the government keeps moving the goalposts, if you know what I mean. | ||
| Listen, the structure, the refinancing, this is going to continue until we get control of the spending and the discretionary spending first because you're never going to get the entitlements unless you show the country you're prepared to increase taxes on the super wealthy and you're prepared to have massive cuts in discretionary spending. | ||
| Then people will have a conversation. | ||
| Up until that time, until that entire package, you're going to run massive deficits. | ||
| The refinancing of $34 trillion that we added a trillion in 90 days and I called it first. | ||
| The refinancing of that, a third of it's got to be refinanced, these higher interest rates. | ||
| This is not, this is a decade. | ||
| This is a lost decade ahead of us. | ||
| Done by people that made decisions that you had nothing to do with. | ||
| It's not your fault. | ||
| Now, what is your fault? | ||
| is avoiding it. | ||
| So like anything else in life and what we try to teach in the war room, confront it. | ||
| Confront it head on. | ||
| And the way to do that is just to make a phone call and talk to the guys that are done with that. | ||
| Well, you will listen to people, but you've done this thousands of times, right? | ||
| So you know what the process is of how to help walk them through how they stop this. | ||
| And look, the credit card companies forced this on people. | ||
| They were sending out credit cards. | ||
| These are unsecured loans. | ||
| Obviously, it's madness. | ||
| It's 1.2 trillion dollars at 30% APR. | ||
| For folks under 35, maybe the older ones, for folks under 35, you got to make this call. | ||
| Just talk to somebody. | ||
| Just see what the information is of how they can help you rectify this. | ||
| Don't be afraid. | ||
| The worst thing you can do in this situation is just lock up. | ||
| Not want to talk to anybody about it. | ||
| Avoid it. | ||
| Not make the payments. | ||
| When it comes in, just put it in a thing. | ||
| That's what you shouldn't do. | ||
| You should address this. | ||
| So where do they go and how they address it, Michael? | ||
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Where do they go? | |
| It's donewithdebt.com. | ||
| Once again, donewithdebt.com. | ||
| The way they address it is we will call you right away. | ||
| Just answer those few questions here you see on the screen. | ||
| We'll assign it to one of our debt specialists. | ||
| They'll take you through a financial questionnaire and see what you owe and what can be settled. | ||
| We settle on all unsecured debt. | ||
| You don't have to be afraid. | ||
| We will hold your hand from point A to point Z. | ||
| To make sure that you're okay and get you out of that vicious cycle you're in. | ||
| Just paying the minimums or trying to pay above the minimums and you still don't make a dent on your debt. | ||
| One thing they don't want to do. | ||
| That's not going to work. | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| We get this question all the time. | ||
| Why don't I just get a loan to consolidate my debt? | ||
| You hit it right, the nail right in the head, Mr. Bannon. | ||
| Well, you're just refinancing your debt at typically a higher interest rate. | ||
| The average interest rate for a loan to consolidate your debt is 29%. | ||
| That means you'll be paying... Yeah, you're not going to do that. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| You're not going to do that. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| I got to bounce. | ||
| We're going to send everybody there. | ||
| What's the website they go to? | ||
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It's donewithdebt.com. | |
| Once again, donewithdebt.com. | ||
| Okay, perfect. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| We'll have you back on. | ||
| I want, particularly parents or grandparents, if you think your grandkids or the kids have a problem with this, this is nothing to be ashamed of. | ||
| It's not to be ashamed of. | ||
| And you're going to see more and more people, high anxiety, affect your whole family life and your personal life. | ||
| You do not need to do it. | ||
| Start with these professionals. | ||
| And they'll walk you through things like, hey, people like doing a big consolidated loan. | ||
| These unsecured loans are 25 and 30 percent now. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| It'd just bury you even worse. | ||
| But go check it out. | ||
| I'm not here to give you personal financial advice, but to give you access. | ||
| This is going to be a growing problem, and we don't want to wipe out an entire generation about this. | ||
| That's where we stand on this. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Charlie Kirk up next. | ||
| AmFest on the 16th and the 19th. | ||
| Charlie Kirk, two hours on populist nationalism. | ||
| I think Posoba, because he's in Japan. | ||
| I think he's back doing the show. | ||
| Five to seven tonight. | ||
| I guarantee you, we'll be lit. | ||
| Where? | ||
| Only in the War Room. |
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