Nov. 30, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| It's Wednesday, 29 November in the year of our Lord 2023. | ||
| Thank you for joining us back for the late afternoon and the early evening edition of The War Room. | ||
| We have breaking news out of Arizona. | ||
| Congressman Biggs is going to join us in a moment from the nation's capital, but we have Abe Hamade from Phoenix. | ||
| Abe, Captain Hamade, you actually are the winner and the Attorney General of the state of Arizona. | ||
| Unfortunately, Because of weak Republican judges and a process that is beyond screwed up, there's someone else sitting in that office. | ||
| And today they indicted. | ||
| This is the opening shots. | ||
| And we told people, we warned people about this, the opening shots of the 2024 campaign. | ||
| They indicted supervisors in Cochise County for doing their constitutional duty. | ||
| Walk me through what happened this afternoon in Arizona, sir. | ||
| Chris Mays, the illegitimate AG who occupies that office right now, has filed two felony indictments against these two supervisors. | ||
| And this has to do with exactly what happened last year during this time period, where the Cochise County, they didn't want to certify their elections because they believed that there were massive problems that occurred in other counties, say in Maricopa County, for instance. | ||
| So this is Mays, you know, flexing her muscle to try to crush her political opponents and Try to silence the American people. | ||
| But Stephen, if you remember what happened last year, Pinal County certified an uncertified election. | ||
| That election should have never been certified. | ||
| That's what shrunk Chris Mays' lead from 511 votes to 280 votes out of 2.5 million, the closest race in Arizona history. | ||
| So this is where Chris Mays, this is, I believe it's a cover-up. | ||
| She's going after people. | ||
| Just last week, she went after Mojave County. | ||
| She threatened them with arrests and indictments if they decided to hand count their ballots. | ||
| So what do these people who claim that they're defending democracy, what do they have to hide? | ||
| If they're trying to oppose transparency, what are they hiding? | ||
| Well, we know what they're hiding. | ||
| They're trying to hide their cover-ups, what they do to rig our elections. | ||
| And that's why I've continued my lawsuits. | ||
| We have two ongoing election lawsuits right now. | ||
| But unfortunately, you're exactly right. | ||
| The too many weak Republicans, and unfortunately a lot of them are in the judiciary, they don't want to act like what's going on in our country is reality, where the rule of law is being crushed and destroyed. | ||
| By the radical left, but Republicans are culpable because if you are in a position of power and choose to do nothing you are exactly as much culpable as the Democrats who have done this to the American people. | ||
| Abe, I know you've got an event to go to because you're running for Congress in Arizona, but what should be done? | ||
| We're going to have Borrelli and Fincham and others on tomorrow morning. | ||
| What then should be done on this? | ||
| Because this is lawfare. | ||
| They're ratcheting it up. | ||
| They're going after supervisors on felony charges that have significant jail time. | ||
| To try to cower people not to fight for free and fair elections. | ||
| What is to be done since we have an illegitimate Attorney General sitting in the office in Arizona? | ||
| It's really difficult because we have a captured government and a captured court system, Steve. | ||
| But what I've been calling on the legislature is to flex their muscle to withhold some of their funding to these supervisors, especially the ones who have totally destroyed the confidence in our elections. | ||
| But right now, I've been fighting in my individual capacity with two lawsuits to try to prevent what I see as inevitable in 2024 here in Arizona. | ||
| And I think we have to work its way through the courts, but it's going to be difficult. | ||
| I think making sure that we expose the system as much as possible is really important. | ||
| And these are margin races, but also being on the lookout for exactly this type of behavior and what they do. | ||
| So that's why we preemptively filed our lawsuit just a year before the election of For next year. | ||
| But, you know, Steve, this is it's really worrisome because I've seen the inside of the establishment of the corruption. | ||
| And I know who the phonies are. | ||
| I know who the crooks are. | ||
| And believe me, we're surrounded by them. | ||
| And it's not just the Democrats. | ||
| It's also these spineless Republicans. | ||
| And, you know, I think this is where I'm glad you're having Senator Sonny Borelli on, who has been a real advocate for election integrity and Wendy Rogers as well. | ||
| But, you know, we have to keep the pressure on. | ||
| What I'm looking forward to most when I'm in Congress is passing election integrity at the federal level. | ||
| We have to stop with this nonsense. | ||
| Once we take power, we have to actually utilize it. | ||
| I'm going to introduce legislation to ban ranked choice voting. | ||
| At the federal level, I'm going to introduce legislation to clean up our voting rolls at the federal level. | ||
| We have to get tough because we all know every single problem in our country, one of the main issues is going to be election integrity. | ||
| Because how can we solve the border? | ||
| How can we solve our foreign policy or inflation if we don't fix and solve the elections that have been compromised? | ||
| Abe, how do people get to you and find out about your current campaign and more information about this? | ||
| Like I said, we're going to Borelli, Fincham, others. | ||
| This is blockbuster news out of Arizona. | ||
| Felony charges against supervisors who are sitting there going, hey, you know, we see Pinal County, we see some of the Maricopa. | ||
| This thing looks like a mess. | ||
| We want to stand up for the citizens of Cochise County, which is one of the border counties. | ||
| How do people follow you and get more information about your fight? | ||
| Yeah, they can continue to watch me on Twitter at Abraham Homaday or on Truth Social or Getter, and they can go to my website at Abe4AZ.com, A-B-E-F-O-R-A-Z.com. | ||
| Thank you very much, Abe Homaday. | ||
| I look forward to following your race out there in Arizona. | ||
| Let me bring in Congressman Andy Biggs. | ||
| Congressman Biggs, we were going to have you here on the border and the Ukraine bill and the spending, but I got to ask you about this. | ||
| This is a blockbuster coming out of Arizona, and you know how screwed up the elections are out there. | ||
| A shot across the bow. | ||
| This is the opening salvo on 2024. | ||
| They're trying to intimidate people. | ||
| They want to use lawfare. | ||
| They want to put people in prison, supervisors in prison, that are standing up for their constituents. | ||
| Sir, your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, it's outrageous. | ||
| I appreciate what Abe said, and I think he's right. | ||
| But I want to add some other rationale to it, too. | ||
| Because, yeah, they want to intimidate, but don't forget that this is a strong message that the Democrats are trying to send to Republicans. | ||
| And that's why they're going after Republicans. | ||
| I mean, you actually had Republicans standing up saying, you know, we've got a problem with our elections around the state. | ||
| We're not going to certify this until we know what's going on. | ||
| And they want to attack, this is Chris Mace, wants to attack them. | ||
| And so it's actually a bigger problem. | ||
| So much of what needs to be corrected has to be corrected at the state level, and so we need the state legislature to get in there and fix it. | ||
| But they're not able to fix it because every time they did something this past session, you have a governor, Katie Hobbs, who's a leftist Democrat, who smacked them down and vetoed that stuff and prevented it from going forward. | ||
| Well, we've tried to get the corrections in the federal government. | ||
| So, Abe actually mentioned something that is actually critical, and that is you have to attack the Help America Votes Act and the Voting Rights Act, because those are the acts that actually prevent you from cleaning up voter rolls. | ||
| And if you don't clean up voter rolls, In the end, it won't matter what you do because you're dealing with a corrupted base to begin with, and that's why you have to be able to clean up the voter rolls. | ||
| We've seen lawsuits filed when states have tried to clean up the voter rolls, and we've seen the federal government fail to do so. | ||
| Modify those federal laws, which by the way, they're probably not constitutional because the Daytime Manor Clause of the U.S. | ||
| Constitution, which delegates that to the states, but this is a dangerous, dangerous precedent and I'm actually quite frankly shocked that Chris Mays would actually dare to do this. | ||
| This is winning by 281 votes and she's now going to indict and imprison these supervisors that are standing up for their people in these hardscrabble counties like Cochise and Mojave. | ||
| These are some of the best people in this country. | ||
| I know you're crammed for time. | ||
| So look, you're an interesting character. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| You're at the center of You're the leader and one of the leaders of balance the budget of the, you know, no more CRs, cut the spending, no Ukraine. | ||
| Also, you're the leader, and I think one of the intellectual leaders, of border security. | ||
| Plus, you know all about the oversight and the judiciary on the impeachment and the oversight of the Biden crime family. | ||
| You take it wherever you go. | ||
| You're in the middle of all this. | ||
| Our audience wants impeachment. | ||
| They want oversight. | ||
| They want to stop the nonsense. | ||
| They want indictments, subpoenas. | ||
| They also want to see a massive cut in the federal budget. | ||
| No money to Ukraine. | ||
| And they want to stop the gimmicks on the border, particularly trying to get Ukraine money. | ||
| You take it, brother, because you're in the middle of... It's intersectionality with Andy Biggs. | ||
| Yeah, Steve, let's talk first about Hunter Biden. | ||
| Hunter Biden has got to come in to do that deposition. | ||
| Failure to come in would mean that he has defined a subpoena and that then we should proceed to do all we can to hold him in contempt. | ||
| The problem, of course, is We don't have police power, and so what will happen is we're going to have to petition the DOJ to hold him in contempt. | ||
| I believe, actually, that Democrats are going to—they want to throw Hunter—he's the scapegoat, so they're willing to throw him off the bus. | ||
| But he's got to come in. | ||
| And when he comes in, there is so much that we're going to deduce from him that we think that's why they're trying to do this dog and pony show. | ||
| Didn't Abby Lowe call your guys bluff and say, hey, he'll come in publicly and let Andy Biggs have at him on national TV? | ||
| Did he not call your guys bluff? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| What they want is they want a committee hearing. | ||
| So this is not going to be like the J6, which is orchestrated where everybody on there already was against Trump and had their set up there. | ||
| What this is, They want us to do a committee hearing, which is everybody gets five minutes. | ||
| You know, an R, then a D, then an R and a D, and so the R asks a question, he filibusters for three minutes, him and then Han, and then you got to ask a follow-up question, and then your time's done. | ||
| When a closed-door deposition, that means we take turns hour, R, an hour for the Ds, an hour for the R, an hour for the Ds, until the questions are exhausted. | ||
| And so that means that our lawyers may be asking some questions and then I want to ask follow-ups to that or else I want to develop it something different. | ||
| That means I can ask questions and they don't. | ||
| The last thing they want is for Biggs to sit there for 30 minutes in a row asking questions, getting the follow-ups on six different topics that he is unprepared to answer. | ||
| And so he starts taking the Fifth Amendment. | ||
| That's what he wants to avoid because when he starts taking the Fifth Amendment, everybody knows the game is up. | ||
| With Hunter Biden. | ||
| When do you think this is going to come to a head? | ||
| So the impeachment inquiry, we're going to probably take a vote on it before too long so that we have the feel of the entire conference. | ||
| People have come up to me, but I haven't been whipping votes to see or counting votes. | ||
| I think we're actually pretty close to actually having enough horses to get this over. | ||
| So once that happens, it goes to the judiciary. | ||
| It won't take too very long, in my opinion, to review the evidence, take a vote one way or the other, and I would suspect sometime early spring at the latest, We might get something going. | ||
| Don't be surprised if something happens, even late January, if we really put pedal to the metal, which we're trying to do. | ||
| I would encourage people to have patience. | ||
| We've gotten so much evidence, I mean, from everything from Ukraine to China to Russia to, I mean, and I'll just tell you this, the timeline is always very clear. | ||
| A request is made, money changes hands, Something is done on behalf of that individual. | ||
| And then somewhere along the pike, Joe Biden gets the money. | ||
| They're trying to say, oh, those were loan repayments or those were loans. | ||
| The reality is we're talking millions of dollars. | ||
| There's absolutely no loan documents unless they're manufacturing them right now. | ||
| And it's pure and simple. | ||
| It's bribery, which is a constitutionally impeachable offense. | ||
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So that will happen sooner rather than later. | |
| I know you've got to bounce. | ||
| Can we hold you through a break and keep you for a few more minutes or are we going to lose you? | ||
| You make the call. | ||
| How am I doing time-wise? | ||
| I only have two minutes, Steve. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| I know you're busy. | ||
| We'll get you back on the other topics. | ||
| Give us your social media, your website. | ||
| Where can people go to get you? | ||
| Yeah, thanks. | ||
| Biggs.house.gov, that's the official site. | ||
| Or you can go to RepAndyBiggsAZ, and that will get you into the non-official site as well. | ||
| You're in the middle of everything, so we'll chase your staff down and get you back on here hopefully tomorrow or the next day. | ||
| Thank you, Congressman Biggs. | ||
| Love to do it, Steve. | ||
| Thanks so much. | ||
| Thanks, brother. | ||
| There's a lot going on, as you can tell. | ||
| Blockbuster news out of Arizona. | ||
| The law fair has started for 2024. | ||
| On Supervisors of Cochise County. | ||
| Short break, back in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Okay, from Liz Harrington, our former executive editor here at the War Room. | ||
| She's just put up on Truth Social and on Twitter a post of President Trump's on Truth Social. | ||
| Deutsche Bank senior executive states, and I quote, Trump had one of the strongest personal balance sheets we have seen and totally unlike any of our major real estate developer clients. | ||
| End quote. | ||
| I tell you, who does not have a strong balance sheet, that would be the United States of America. | ||
| And it's bad. | ||
| It's actually worse than that. | ||
| It's terrible and getting a lot worse. | ||
| E.J. | ||
| and Tony joins me now. | ||
| E.J. | ||
| over at Heritage and also works with Steve Moore in this team. | ||
| E.J., you were the first one to call. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I might have been the first one to call this one about the trillion dollars we hit on 18th September. | ||
| And I calculated that we would hit that $33 trillion on the 18th of September, and I calculated on the 28th of December, we would hit $34 trillion. | ||
| And therefore, we would add $1 trillion to the balance sheet, a debt, in 100 days. | ||
| Now, as EJ always does, EJ always one-ups me because he's better with the math than I am. | ||
| EJ, you got some breaking news. | ||
| Walk me through it. | ||
| Well, Steve, I wish it was better news. | ||
| Unfortunately, Treasury just borrowed more yesterday, and now we're up to $33.85 trillion for the federal debt. | ||
| So, for those playing along at home, that means we are less than $150 billion away from breaking that $34 trillion threshold. | ||
| So, we are actually on track to meet and exceed your expectations. | ||
| Again, I wish it wasn't so. | ||
| But that's where we stand right now. | ||
| And unfortunately, we are rapidly approaching that point of no return that we've talked about many times before, where even if you can stop the spending, even if you can cut and in fact get rid of the deficit, you still have such high interest payments on the debt that the fiscal downward spiral is going to continue. | ||
| So, unfortunately, we really don't have a whole lot of time left here as a nation. | ||
| We're eventually going to get to the point where the only way out is just going to be inflate the debt away by devaluing the currency even further. | ||
| E.J., this is the one you did call. | ||
| You said that we'd be over trillion in interest expense. | ||
| That's obviously going to happen. | ||
| This adding a trillion, it looks like it'll take place in 90 days. | ||
| And there's no crisis. | ||
| I mean, there's no like pandemic or this is just all what the Biden regime and Bidenomics has put in. | ||
| This is why they're running away from Bidenomics. | ||
| You were also the first one to call to say, hey, Steve, With the 33 trillion 34 trillion debt at least a third of that has to be refinanced all the time and because of the structural change in interest rates. | ||
| They can't go long and they can't sell long. | ||
| They got to keep rotating this in through notes or short-term financing at super at high rates, which is going to crush us and set in structurally. | ||
| Forget what the Fed does. | ||
| You're going to have structurally high interest rates just from having to refinance the debt. | ||
| I'd like to go to some and somebody backed us up today. | ||
| Right? | ||
| The team over at Semaphore, which, hey, is no gateway pundit and no citizen's free press. | ||
| They did an incredible story that echoes what EJ's been saying on the show. | ||
| The treasury auctions are the worst we've ever had in the history of the country. | ||
| The bonds are getting eviscerated worse than any time since the Civil War. | ||
| They can't sell these bonds. | ||
| EJ, walk folks through. | ||
| When the United States government Can't sell bonds? | ||
| What signal is that sending to the world? | ||
| Oh, not a very good one, that's for sure. | ||
| Essentially what it's saying is that the doomsday, that date when The United States is not going to be able to pay its bills. | ||
| That is arriving much sooner than people anticipated. | ||
| So it's no secret, Steve, that eventually the United States is going to have to massively reduce spending or raise taxes or again just inflate the debt away. | ||
| You have federal finance on a completely unsustainable trajectory. | ||
| So eventually it has to stop. | ||
| It's just a question of when. | ||
| It looks like that's going to happen. | ||
| A heck of a lot sooner rather than later. | ||
| And so people who are being asked to buy a 30-year Treasury bond, for example, are really beginning to hesitate to do so because they don't know if they're actually going to get paid 30 years down the road. | ||
| Or if they do get paid, they'll receive dollars that have decreased so much in value it's as if the Treasury did explicitly default. | ||
| And so as fewer and fewer people come forward during these auctions to actually buy these Treasuries, whether they're bonds, bills, or notes, The interest rate continues marching higher, and you start getting a spread between the initial offer and the final offer that is just getting incredibly large, so much so that, as you pointed out, you're seeing numbers not seen in years. | ||
| By the way, how it affects you personally is you're screwed. | ||
| Let's just say that. | ||
| Your credit card at 30% APR is going to get worse. | ||
| Car loans, worse. | ||
| Apartment rents, worse. | ||
| Mortgages, worse. | ||
| Second mortgages, not available. | ||
| Washington DC, this is what I don't get. | ||
| This math is fairly straightforward. | ||
| This is not quantum mechanics. | ||
| They're not even having serious talks about the ZJ. | ||
| And I want to give the audience some good news because of what this audience has done already. | ||
| There's a couple of tweets out saying that Speaker Johnson has now added so many things about the border. | ||
| And and reduced the possibility of what the face amount would be of the Ukraine funding that there's looks like there's impossible to get a deal. | ||
| That's the latest that just came out and that's because this audience putting pressure EJ. | ||
| How is their political class just not dealing with this when it's so obvious that we have to? | ||
| And they want to put up a debt commission. | ||
| The Hill story today, they want to do it. | ||
| We don't need a debt commission. | ||
| We don't need something that's going to kick the can down the road. | ||
| We need tough, deliberate action now. | ||
| Why is the political class still hiding from the decisions they have to make? | ||
| Well, I suppose because they believe that the problems will outlive them. | ||
| In other words, the problems won't actually surface in such a way that they are manifested to shock the American people until all of the current office holders are actually out of office. | ||
| They believe that they can outrun this thing, which a lot of people have believed, and rightly so, for many years. | ||
| But eventually, that's just not going to be the case anymore. | ||
| But either way, the American people are still the ones stuck holding the bag here. | ||
| And in many ways, it's actually very heartening to hear that the House Republicans are loading these spending bills up with so many poison pills that Democrats won't vote on them. | ||
| Because one of the best things that could possibly happen right now is that the government actually gets shut down, that we can't agree on how to spend money, and so the government simply stops spending the money. | ||
| EJ, what's your social media, particularly Twitter, where do people get to you? | ||
| You can find me on Twitter at RealEJAntoni. | ||
| EJ, you're doing an amazing job. | ||
| We're going to get more back into this, obviously, tomorrow or the next day. | ||
| A lot going on Capitol Hill, folks. | ||
| Keep your powder dry right now. | ||
| People are wary of the War Room Posse getting up on the ramparts. | ||
| You're going to have to do it, but we've got to pick our shots here. | ||
| I can tell you right now, the message is coming through pretty clear in Ukraine. | ||
| This is why you're seeing more of HR2, not just gimmicks, but things for HR2. | ||
| It would make it untenable Untenable for these radical Democrats. | ||
| We'll get into more of that a little bit later in the show and then tomorrow. | ||
| I've got a clip. | ||
| I'm going to play the clip. | ||
| I'm going to go to break. | ||
| I've got Dr. Malone. | ||
| I have Natalie Winters on an explosive story. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play it. | ||
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I watched what was happening in the public domain and I listened to folks like Dr. Anthony Fauci. | |
| And what he said was that the mutations of the virus were totally consistent with a jump from animals to humans. | ||
| John Ratcliffe was the United States Director of National Intelligence, the head of 18 different agencies. | ||
| What I found was that there wasn't any intelligence that supported that, nor was there any scientific data that we could find. | ||
| In a world exclusive, an insider reveals private discussions he had with Anthony Fauci, where they deliberately decided to downplay the lab leak theory. | ||
| Dr. Robert Kudlik was a high-ranking official in the U.S. | ||
| government's Preparedness and Response Department. | ||
| He reported directly to the president, and he was also technically Fauci's superior. | ||
| Here, for the first time, he opens up on camera. | ||
| The key is not to let the story die because there are people who would like it to kind of go away. | ||
| It's really important to kind of keep people focused on it and I think there has to be accountability across the board. | ||
| What discussions did you have with Anthony Fauci and others behind the scenes about deliberately deciding to turn down the temperature on a lab leak? | ||
| Well, it was early on in the event when I did have the conversation with Dr. Collins and Dr. Fauci. | ||
| It was the intent then to get the White House involved. | ||
| What we were trying to do was trying to make sure that politically, that you would not get into a situation where people would make accusations or allegations. | ||
| But quite honestly, what happened was the exact opposite. | ||
| You and Fauci in those discussions just wanted to turn the rhetoric down. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| That was it. | ||
| Kadlik says Fauci was worried about protecting his own reputation, and that could be why he diverted attention away from the lab leak. | ||
| That would be a natural reaction of him or anybody, you know, particularly, you know, I think for him, to saying, you know, what could this do to me and to our institute as a consequence if we were found to have some culpability or some involvement in this? | ||
| And I think what probably made that even more acute was the fact that they didn't have good visibility into what they were doing and what they were supporting through the grants, through EcoHealth Alliance that went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| I think that just probably magnified that concern. | ||
| It's pretty extraordinary to reveal the conversations that you had with Fauci and Collins. | ||
| It's pretty extraordinary to publicly say that you did try to downplay the rhetoric around a bioweapon and a lab leak. | ||
| Are you doing this interview in part because you feel guilty about that? | ||
| I just feel like it's an obligation that I have to kind of say, what happened? | ||
| And I think to factually try to portray this, not to get sympathy or forgiveness, but more to saying factually, here's what happened. | ||
| This is what we tried to do. | ||
| Did it work? | ||
| No. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| You think you've seen turbulence? | ||
| You ain't seen nothing yet. | ||
| Shot across the bow today in Arizona by an attorney general, illegitimate attorney general. | ||
| They covered up, they covered up their own steal there. | ||
| Won by 281 votes out of 2.5 million. | ||
| And today she indicts these patriots down in Cochise County. | ||
| Cochise County, one of the, one of the best but toughest counties in this country down on the border. | ||
| What those people were going through with the invasion of our country. | ||
| Indicts them on two felony charges. | ||
| That's why you need to talk to the folks at Birchgold. | ||
| Go to birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| Get Philip Patrick and his team on the phone. | ||
| Ask the simple question, why gold has been a hedge for mankind in turbulent times for, I don't know, 5,000 years? | ||
| Just throw a number out there of recorded history. | ||
| Ask the question. | ||
| Get the answer. | ||
| When you get the answer, get a pot of Warpath coffee. | ||
| Warpath.coffee slash War Room. | ||
| Go to Warpath, get the dark roast, or get any. | ||
| The dark roast is my baby. | ||
| Have a cup of coffee, get in a corner, cut your phones off, cut your computer off, cut the TV off. | ||
| Even tell the kids, hey, go outside and play. | ||
| And think. | ||
| Think for yourself. | ||
| The turbulent times we're in, because it's only going to get worse. | ||
| Trust me on that one, baby. | ||
| Dr. Malone. | ||
| Pretty shocking. | ||
| You've been at the middle of this since the beginning. | ||
| Walk us through what we just heard, and why is it important? | ||
| So what we just heard was a limited hangout, and there's no way that he would have given this interview and said these statements without having them pre-vetted by the intelligence community and the DoD. | ||
| So that's our starting point. | ||
| And of course, NIH has a massive public relations infrastructure. | ||
| So all three of these players had to have their fingers in the pie on this. | ||
| He is asserting that there has to be broad accountability, and I'm afraid that what that means is that there will be no accountability. | ||
| When they say broad accountability, what they're meaning is there's general blame that extends across HHS and, of course, DOD and associated space, including ASPR. | ||
| And so the liability here is likely to be diffuse. | ||
| In my assessment, there needs to be broad accountability translates to Fauci, Collins, and absolutely Cadillac need to be held accountable for this. | ||
| He has some statements in here that are kind of almost Freudian. | ||
| He says he feels that he has an obligation that I have to kind of say what happened. | ||
| That suggests to me that somebody above him, some other deep stater, is telling him that he has to come out with this statement right now, and I believe the reason is because of what they've got in the house on him. | ||
| Okay, hang on a second. | ||
| I want to make sure people don't think you've got a tinfoil hat on here. | ||
| The term limited hangout, explain that for maybe some of our newer audience members that haven't had the benefit of your previous visits. | ||
| What does it mean and what does it mean in process? | ||
| And then why is Kadlec such an interesting character and one that you just said is a veteran of the Deep State, sir? | ||
| Definition, limited hangout or partial hangout is a tactic used in media relations, perception management, politics and information management. | ||
| It comes from the department, I'm sorry, from the intelligence community and the espionage trade. | ||
| It was made famous under Nixon as the modified limited hangout. | ||
| So this is a strategy that's often used by the intelligence community or we could go with Kash Patel and call it government gangsters of the deep state. | ||
| When the burden of information is such that it's going to break and break in a way that they really don't want you to look deeper into those issues, what they'll do is deploy, typically through media, in this case Sky News, a limited disclosure by a prominent official of the truth that is already self-evident. | ||
| And what happens is the public becomes so fascinated by that that they don't follow through and look deeper. | ||
| And this serves as a distraction. | ||
| So that's a limited hangout. | ||
| Tell me about, tell me about Cadillac, then we'll bring in Natalie. | ||
| Why is Cadillac such an interesting character and why you say he's a veteran of the deep state? | ||
| In my case, so I've documented that Cadillac has a 25 plus year history of working with the government. | ||
| And I know personally that he was basically the direct report for Michael Callaghan, Dr. Michael Callaghan, known CIA officer that was in Wuhan either in late 2019 or the very beginning of 2020, interfacing with the CCP and then managed the Diamond Princess. | ||
| Managed the tent hospitals in New York City, and then also managed the policy concerning the elder care facilities. | ||
| These are all major tragedies along the timeline here. | ||
| All through that, he's reporting to Cadillac. | ||
| Cadillac was the one, together with Peter Marks, that developed Operation Warp Speed and managed that. | ||
| And Kavlik has also this bizarre revolving door relationship with the Carlisle Group-funded entity called Emergent Biosystems. He was one of the key founders and refused to disclose to Congress in his confirmation hearings how much money he made from that. So he is a guy that has managed the biodefense complex from the outset. Wow. It all goes... | ||
| It always goes back to David Rubenstein and the Carlyle Group. | ||
| Hang on right there. | ||
| I want to bring in our own Natalie Winters. | ||
| Natalie, you've been hammering away at this for years. | ||
| Walk me through your observations of all this. | ||
| ...into a victory lap about how myself in this show and Dr. Malone, we've all been right about Anthony Fauci from the start of COVID-19. | ||
| And, you know, I know in the interview they like to say that they waged a campaign to downplay the lab leak theory, right? | ||
| That's a bit of a euphemistic term for the systematic information warfare campaign that they waged, not just against the narrative, but people who even dared to, out of the words, Wuhan Institute of Virology, But frankly, I agree with Dr. Malone's critique of this interview, and I think he really laid out the groundwork for who exactly Dr. Kadlec is, right? | ||
| He is the swamp, he is the medical, the pharmaceutical, industrial complex incarnate, frankly, and I don't actually think that he's going rogue. | ||
| And I want to contextualize this, because as you well know, Steve, and Dr. Malone, as you pointed out, when you're dealing with stories that are obvious to anyone who is viewing them, It really has to do with the media ecosystem and how they roll it out, right? | ||
| When they choose to say certain stories are true or not. | ||
| Just think of the Hunter Biden hard drive. | ||
| So this Sky News little segment comes just a week after a very interesting Vanity Fair report. | ||
| Now, pause on that because Vanity Fair, the very same author who wrote this article, also wrote an article a few months ago interviewing Dr. Kadlec, who also kind of similarly blew the whistle, particularly on Anthony Fauci. But in this latest report, which was conveniently dropped just ahead of Thanksgiving, so it was buried in the news cycle and vanity fair, there were explosive allegations in there. Not only that Anthony Fauci and NIH officials | ||
| were forewarned just months before COVID-19 happened, that the research they were funding in China was being co-opted by the People's Liberation Army, but there was also a report that US government officials who were basically conducting safety checks at the time of the at the Wuhan Institute of Virology were told, and I quote, to delete information from their reports about the basically gain of function research that was going on at that laboratory. | ||
| And I think to go sort of meta and really, I think to adopt Dr. Malone's limited hangout critique, I think you have to link this Sky News segment to the now evolving narrative that we've seen in the mainstream media, which is that a new pandemic is potentially resurging. | ||
| Because what you didn't see in that clip, because I don't know if it's actually contained in the video or if it's just written, is a very interesting statement from Cadillac, which is the tools of science to do this kind of synthetic biology, this risky research, has not been limited to China. | ||
| It happens in the United States, it happens in a lot of places in the world, and we could have another one of these pandemics if we don't accept that. | ||
| So in other words, I think you may be seeing people like Dr. Kadlec sort of embrace this idea that gain-of-function research could potentially have birthed COVID-19 because they're laying the predicate for the next pandemic. | ||
| So Dr. Malone, we talked a little bit about this yesterday, on this current thing. | ||
| And Drudge all day, you know, has gone to the Mac Daddy. | ||
| Something's coming, you know, thunder out of China. | ||
| Europe's already starting to shut down. | ||
| Masks are coming back. | ||
| You're already starting to see, you know, we're all, we're back into March of 2020. | ||
| What say you, sir? | ||
| So I just came back from Romania, and I haven't seen any of this, and I'm busy talking to European politicians right now about the possibility of doing a late February, hopefully, international COVID summit number five here in the USA, and none of them are talking about those things. | ||
| So what the Chinese are asserting, and the data supports them, is that this is hype, it's spun up, and this is just respiratory syncytial virus Influenza, SARS-CoV-2 with an overlay of mycoplasma in the winter. | ||
| Seasonal pneumonia. | ||
| Not a big deal. | ||
| And this is not a novel virus. | ||
| This is not an engineered pathogen. | ||
| There's absolutely no sign of that. | ||
| All of that is just fear porn hype that's been spun up. | ||
| That we're doing through again. | ||
| What would you like to see from Catholics? | ||
| What is your, because we got this subcommittee. | ||
| It exactly hasn't been, you know, burning daylight. | ||
| But tell me, what do you recommend we do to get to the bottom of this? | ||
| We got to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| We don't need broad accountability yet. | ||
| We need the accountability of the top guys that did this and knew about it and or look the other way. | ||
| So what is your recommendation? | ||
| We got a couple minutes on this side of the break. | ||
| Tell me what you, tell me what Dr. Malone wants to do. | ||
| So, I've heard criticism now. | ||
| Andrew Huff is claiming that Marjorie Taylor Greene is trying to take everybody's eye off the ball by focusing on the jab in this select committee, whereas the committee members have been focused on the origin, ostensibly according to MTG, because a bunch of them are docs and they're afraid of causing vaccine hesitancy, so they don't want to go after the jab story. | ||
| So if that's the consensus within the committee, we're only going to focus on the origin of the virus, then by God, let's make that public. | ||
| Let's get that information out and let's see what they actually have. | ||
| Because my colleagues that are federal investigators and others that are in the gears right now are telling me that there is a significant body of information now that's been accumulated by the House committee. | ||
| And I infer that that is the driver behind this limited hangout disclosure, is that there's awareness in the IC and across the deep state that these documents, this information, this data, is now on the verge of going public. | ||
| And I think that it's high time that we get to see it. | ||
| And, you know, what that probably means is they will deploy it right before Christmas or some other convenient moment where we'll all forget about it. | ||
| But I think it's time for it to come out and to move forward with potential prosecution on the basis of that. | ||
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| Dr. Malone, where do people go to get to your sub stack and all the other great content you're putting up? | ||
| So the Substack, thank you very much, is, and this is the only thing that supports us anymore, is rwmalonemd.substack.com. | ||
| The title is Who is Robert Malone? | ||
| A nod to who is John Galt. | ||
| And on social media, it's at rwmalonemd on Truth Social, Getter, Gab, and X. Dr. Malone, thank you very much. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Okay, this is explosive. | ||
| Natalie Winters is going to stick with us through the break. | ||
| Remember, you cannot trust this government. | ||
| Let's just be brutally frank. | ||
| The hide the football, the misrepresentation, the lies. | ||
| We started the show this morning about what they're doing with artificial intelligence, reorganizing the government around it. | ||
| That's according to Schmidt, not Steve Bannon. | ||
| Schmidt says that in this executive order of the president. | ||
| More than ever, you need to have IT security, your communication security. | ||
| Go to Silent, S-L-N-T. | ||
| Get their Faraday bags, the top ones made. | ||
| Go check it out today. | ||
| S-L-N-T, Silent.com. | ||
| back in a moment. | ||
| Congressional negotiators on Tuesday were poised to abandon plans to use the annual defense policy bill to tighten controls on U.S. | ||
| investment in Chinese technology, according to people familiar. | ||
| This is all being driven by Patrick McHenry. | ||
| Patrick McHenry. | ||
| He had the bowtie that cut the worst deal ever for the debt ceiling. | ||
| This is the reason we have a trillion dollars added to the national debt in 90 days. | ||
| That's what E.J. | ||
| is saying. | ||
| Bannon says 100 days. | ||
| EJ says 90 days. | ||
| One trillion dollars because it got Patrick McHenry, the chief negotiator of that disastrous bill, now he's trying to get back in to fund the CCP's military technology. | ||
| You cannot make this up, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| You folks in North Carolina got a lot of explaining to do down there in McHenry's County, McHenry's District. | ||
| Natalie, you've been at this for years. | ||
| Give me your assessment, ma'am, of what you've seen and what should happen. | ||
| Well, I think the baseline takeaway from the clip you played, and something that the War Room audience knows way too well, is that the people who are making the decisions about the COVID pandemic, they weren't dealing in truth, they weren't dealing in reality, and frankly, they never cared about American lives. | ||
| They were always playing politics, and Anthony Fauci was quite literally putting China first. | ||
| So I think where we need to go with this, I of course agree with Dr. Malone on the front of the, particularly the Origins investigation, but I think we need to extrapolate the fact that Anthony Fauci and his colleagues, his superiors and inferiors, were lying knowingly, not just about the origins, but also probably about mandates, the public health measures they rolled out, dare I say vaccines. I think we need to really evaluate every single inch of America's | ||
| COVID-19 response through the very same lens through which we've looked at the origins, which is Anthony Fauci and co are lying, so are the Chinese Communist Party, but they're equally culpable. | ||
| And I think that's where investigators need to press down, because how nefarious and evil is it that if Anthony Fauci knew behind closed doors that COVID-19 came from China, yet he still opposed Donald Trump's decision to introduce a travel ban? | ||
| It really makes you think. | ||
| No, and gain of function, it came from his gain of function. | ||
| There's so much there. | ||
| Natalie, how do people get to your research, your articles, everything you've got going on? | ||
| Natalie G. Winters on all platforms. | ||
| Thank you so much for having me. | ||
| Natalie, thank you. | ||
| The hammer drops. | ||
| This thing is sick. | ||
| It's absolutely sick. | ||
| Makes me sick to my stomach. | ||
| That's why, by the way, make sure, get a Faraday bag. | ||
| Go to silent.com. | ||
| S-L-N-T. | ||
| Make sure you get one of these Faraday bags. | ||
| You will not be disappointed. | ||
| And who knows who's listening? | ||
| Mike Lindell, they're always listening to you, they're trying to put you out of business, trying to get your employees, trying to put your employees in bankruptcy. | ||
| IRS doesn't care. | ||
| They want Trump and they want Lindell. | ||
| By the way, Trump had the Deutsche Bank executive come out today and say, it's the single finest personal balance sheet the bank, Deutsche Bank, one of the top banks has ever worked with in the real estate area. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| And now, see, they'll do anything to get you and to get Trump. | ||
| How are we doing out there? | ||
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| I've been nothing but attacked and attacked to silence me, but I'm out here louder than ever. | ||
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| In Arizona, they just indicted the folks down in Cochise County. | ||
| Give me your thoughts on that, for trying to get paper ballots, trying to make sure that they got a full count. | ||
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Steve, I worked with them. | |
| It is horrible, everybody. | ||
| I worked with those people back when they were not going to certify the Arizona election. | ||
| And I work with those people directly. | ||
| What they're doing to them is horrific. | ||
| All they want to do is get paper ballots hand-counted, and they press charges against them. | ||
| And this goes back to the 2022 election, when Cochise County, all of them were going to stand up and say, we're not going to certify. | ||
| Horrible what they did today, Steve. | ||
| We're going to fight it all the way. | ||
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| At the Supreme Court today was argued, I think one of the most important cases, Dan Richards. | ||
| One man alone, one patriot stood up. | ||
| He's got it to the Supreme Court. | ||
| They argued the case today about Can you change election law without going back to the Constitution? | ||
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