Nov. 2, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| When you saw babies beheaded, all these things, when you saw these images, she said, I know you felt empowered. | ||
| Now, if that were said, let us go back. | ||
| Let us go back to Charlottesville. | ||
| I guarantee you, if the administration and that mob saw any students, sure, they would have been expelled in a second. | ||
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At UVA? | |
| At UVA. | ||
| They would have been expelled in a second. | ||
| People who worked, Catty, people who worked, who were seen in that crowd, fired. | ||
| But here, you have people openly saying they feel empowered by the raping of Jewish women. | ||
| They feel empowered by the images of children being shot in front of their parents and parents being shot in front of their children. | ||
| The videos are out there. | ||
| They have exposed themselves. | ||
| And yet, If you do unto them what universities would do unto any other group, then it's a violation of the First Amendment. | ||
| Let's talk about you personally. | ||
| You attended Harvard, and I know you were horrified by some of the anti-Semitism coming out of that very famous college up in Cambridge. | ||
| It is inexcusable, and Harvard University has totally failed in terms of condemning the significant rise of anti-Semitism. | ||
| That's why I led with my colleagues in the House who are also Harvard graduates, ranging from Ted Cruz to newly elected House member Kevin Kiley, strongly condemning President Claudine Gay. | ||
| That's the president of Harvard. | ||
| Alright, you've got a lot going on. | ||
| a task force in place, the students should be expelled who are not only going after Jewish students but also saying these heinous, horrific anti-Semitic comments. | ||
| So shame on Harvard and all of these institutions for not taking a strong stance on this. | ||
| We will put on the floor a resolution condemning anti-Semitism on college campuses, another area where Republicans will lead. | ||
| All right, you've got a lot going on. | ||
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Congresswoman Elise Stefanik, thank you very much for joining us from D.C. | |
| It's really, really pretty simple, isn't it? | ||
| I mean, after George Floyd, we spoke out clearly. | ||
| After the killing of other black Americans, we speak out clearly. | ||
| It's just, it's pretty simple. | ||
| That's how, I'm sorry, that's how I was raised. | ||
| You fight and protect and defend those who are preyed upon. | ||
| It doesn't matter who and whether it is a black teenager who is stopped by a police officer for driving while black, or whether it's a Jew being harassed on the college campus, fearing for his or her safety. | ||
| I'm sorry, that's how I was raised. | ||
| That's how we were all raised. | ||
| But for some reason, and I do have to ask, who's raising these kids? | ||
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Well, and who's running these universities? | |
| And who's running these universities, Willie, that's allowing a Jew to get attacked walking across the lawn of Harvard? | ||
| I take Cady's point about the generational divide, and she's right about that. | ||
| On the other hand, you should not have had to experience the Holocaust first hand to know That attacking a religious group, sometimes physically, in the case of Hamas, the most violent things we've seen since the Holocaust, to know that that's wrong, to stand up to that. | ||
| So I appreciate you saying that, Donny, but I agree with Joe. | ||
| This is an easy one. | ||
| If you can't condemn the stuff we saw on October 7th, there's something wrong with you. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| There's something deeply wrong with you. | ||
| We want to ask you, because the IDF confirmed today that the Jabalia refugee camp has been hit for a second time. | ||
| Of course, that comes after yesterday, the IDF set a strike there, killed a Hamas commander, but we also know it killed civilians as well. | ||
| Why did Israel strike again here, and do you know how many civilians have been killed in this area as a result of these strikes yesterday and today? | ||
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So we know we've taken out a senior Hamas commander who was directly involved in the massacre of October 7th. | |
| As you will recall, there were rapes, there were beheadings, there were people burnt alive. | ||
| Burnt so badly, until today, we've got 130 bodies that we can't recognize who they are. | ||
| They're just ashes. | ||
| And anyone who was involved, especially a commander of the operation, We have a duty to find them and to bring them to justice, and we have meted out very, very speedy justice with this individual. | ||
| But to the question of why did Israel strike a second time today, and do you have an estimate for how many civilians were killed as a result of these strikes yesterday and today? | ||
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So I can't tell you, I know that we've hit senior Hamas commanders and we've hit many Hamas terrorists. | |
| That's our goal. | ||
| In the Jabalia camp, subterranean. | ||
| Your pictures are only showing what's above ground, for obvious reasons. | ||
| But underneath there, you have a spiderweb of tunnels, of bunkers, of fortifications, an underground city. | ||
| Which Hamas has built over the years, of course, stealing the cement and the electricity and so forth from the people of Gaza. | ||
| And in building those fortifications, that's an integral part of their military machine. | ||
| And we are about to destroy that military machine. | ||
| We need to attack it again. | ||
| We'll attack it again. | ||
| Okay, but you're not acknowledging how many—I assume Israel does have an estimate of how many civilians were killed. | ||
| I assume you have an estimate of how many civilians are there when you make a calculus on when to strike. | ||
| Tell me if that's wrong. | ||
| But when you decide on striking targets that you say are military targets but are also where civilians are, I mean, how many civilian deaths does Israel believe are acceptable in an airstrike if it is a military target? | ||
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So obviously we try to keep any collateral damage to a minimum, as minimum as possible. | |
| And the advantage of this particular location is that it has been largely, not totally, but largely evacuated because we were telling people there two weeks ago, longer, that they should evacuate that area, that there will be fighting. | ||
| And that whole area around Gaza City, including the refugee camp, About 800,000 people have moved to the south, as we requested, and more so in the last few days, as the ground operation started. | ||
| And so we think there are, of course, our civilians still in the area. | ||
| We're making a great effort to distinguish between them and Hamas. | ||
| But the good news is that the huge civilian population that used to be there has vacated. | ||
| But do you know how many were killed? | ||
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I can't tell you exactly because I don't know. | |
| What about an estimate? | ||
| Of course, the numbers that come out from the Hamas-controlled Ministry of Health are, of course, high, but we don't believe them. | ||
| So what number do you believe, Mr. Ambassador? | ||
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If you look at those statistics, we've never hit a single terrorist. | |
| We only hit civilians. | ||
| That's, of course, obviously mendacious. | ||
| You don't believe their number. | ||
| I obviously understand why it's controlled by Hamas that's putting out these figures, but what number? | ||
| I haven't heard a number from Israel. | ||
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What number do you have? | |
| We can't give you a precise number, and I don't want to give a number irresponsibly. | ||
| I can say the following. | ||
| Most of the civilians left that location before we struck. | ||
| I'm not denying there are a few there, but we've hit a primary Hamas target. | ||
| We've taken out a Hamas leader. | ||
| We've taken out many, many Hamas fighters. | ||
| That was the goal of our operation. | ||
| And casualties, if there were civilian casualties, surely that has to be based on Hamas, because the Geneva Convention is clear. | ||
| If a combatant turns a civilian area into a war zone, in other words, if he's placed his military machine inside a civilian neighborhood, he has, in fact, endangered the civilians. | ||
| Because according to the Geneva Convention, the additional protocol, Article 13, by doing so, he's made it a legitimate target. | ||
| Now, even though we have a legal right to do so, under the laws of war, to attack a legitimate Hamas target, We still made an effort, told all the civilians, please, vacate the location. | ||
| And I'm happy to tell you that the overwhelming majority of garrisoned civilians in that location have, in fact, left the number of civilians that are small. | ||
| We don't want to hurt them. | ||
| I will say, Ambassador, a lot of them feel like they don't have places to go, certainly not safe places. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| It's Thursday, 2 November in the year of our Lord. | ||
| We're going to start, they were absolutely packed, we're going to start today in Jerusalem with Yoram Hazani, one of the great theoreticians and thinkers about nationalism and wrote one of the most controversial books, A Must Read, The Virtues of Nationalism, a couple of years ago. | ||
| Yoram, can you do me a favor in my discussions with you? | ||
| Here's, I think, one of the problems we have here in the United States. | ||
| This is like the fog of war to the 10th power. | ||
| It's very difficult for, I think, citizens, particularly MAGA, to get a real read on what is exactly happening, because the Biden administration is doing one thing one day, the next thing the next day. | ||
| Can you just put us in, for instance, we don't even know There's, you know, Daily Mail saying that the IDF has breached the gates, they're inside the first line of defense. | ||
| It appears they're much deeper. | ||
| Can you just, first off, just walk us through, from Jerusalem, your perspective on where we stand in this war? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Good morning, Steve. | ||
| Look, I think the first thing people in the United States need to understand about the war is that Gaza City, which has been ruled and controlled by Hamas, A terrorist organization for the last 16 years. | ||
| Gaza City is 45 miles from Tel Aviv, and it's about 50 miles from Jerusalem. | ||
| And when rockets are fired from Gaza City, as they have been for much of the last 15, 16 years, when rockets are fired from Gaza City, we hear them fall in Jerusalem. | ||
| We hear them fall in Tel Aviv. | ||
| Sometimes they hit Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, right? | ||
| So trying to understand this war, you have to imagine a situation in which Tijuana, let's say, is about the same distance from San Diego or Baltimore, from Washington, that there is a neighboring city like Tijuana that's ruled by a genocidal terrorist organization for 16 years that starts repeated wars. | ||
| And what happens? | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, you know, in 2008, Israel entered Gaza for a limited war. | ||
| In 2014, Israel entered Gaza for a limited war. | ||
| The question is, now we're in the third Gaza war. | ||
| And what's changed? | ||
| What's different? | ||
| And the answer is that for the first time in 16 years, we have in Israel a wall-to-wall consensus. | ||
| All the political parties, government and opposition, we have what's called the unity government. | ||
| We have wall-to-wall consensus that this third Gaza war is going to be the last Gaza war. | ||
| This is not a war for trying to punish Hamas. | ||
| This is a war to put an end to Hamas, to dismantle Hamas. | ||
| And anybody from overseas who has difficulty understanding why we should want to do that, I'm happy to explain. | ||
| Any Israeli can explain it to you. | ||
| But the important thing to understand is that the Israeli government, the government and the opposition have made it absolutely clear this war doesn't end until Hamas ceases to have governing or military capabilities in Gaza City. | ||
| In that war, you've got the kinetic part, which we've started, but you've also got the information warfare part. | ||
| Walk me through. | ||
| Do you think that Israel and its ally, the United States, are winning the information war versus the kinetic part? | ||
| Well, look, there's two parts. | ||
| You know this well. | ||
| There's two parts to the information war. | ||
| There's the part where you're trying to explain yourself to a public that is unbiased to a certain degree, open to hearing what you're saying. | ||
| And there's the information war where you're wrestling with people who've been brainwashed for decades to see you as some kind of monster. | ||
| Now, so let's look at both parts. | ||
| In 2020, America underwent, as you know, a kind of cultural revolution, the woke cultural revolution. | ||
| In which liberal institutions from, you know, the New York Times to Harvard University, the software in these institutions switched from being, you know, like the old school liberalism about, you know, freedom of speech and be, you know, be good to people and tolerant, to this woke revolutionary neo-Marxism. | ||
| And that cultural revolution, which, you know, we've You and I, we've both discussed it at great length in a lot of venues, but I don't think people understood at the time that that woke cultural revolution has as part of its coalition, it has the Hamas. | ||
| It has Muslim organizations, which are effectively front organizations for the Hamas. | ||
| And that's part of the woke coalition in what used to be liberal institutions in the United States. | ||
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So what that means is that we are... Hang on a second. | |
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| Hang on. | ||
| I want to hold that to a commercial break. | ||
| Take a short commercial break. | ||
| Yoram Hazani is going to join us from Jerusalem after a short break. | ||
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Here's your host Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Yoram, the reason we have you on here today, you're one of the smartest guys I know. | ||
| So you got to help me out here. | ||
| When you go back to the cultural revolution that was in June of 2020, and you see all these institutions kind of hit the switch and flip, and now they're woke, and woke has this kind of ideology of sensitivity, of gender, and culture, multiculturalism, and sexuality, sexual preference, and a whole list of things. | ||
| And then when you say Hamas and even Hezbollah, yesterday in Qatar, the head of Hamas, the technical head of Hamas, which is really the Muslim Brotherhood in Qatar, is the nest of vipers that lets all those terrorist groups there and lets all the Arab money and international money flow in and out to finance it. | ||
| He's sitting there going, hey, the 7th of October is bad, but there's going to be a second, third, fourth, fifth. | ||
| It's going to be unending until we destroy the Jewish state and kill all the Jews. | ||
| He's pretty blunt. | ||
| And in Persia yesterday, Tehran, the head guy says, hey, the party of God up in, which is called Hezbollah, but the party of God up in Lebanon, if the Israelis continue to assault them on their northern border, we're going to unleash hell on them and destroy the Jewish state with our light infantry that is the army of Hezbollah. | ||
| How do the woke snowflakes in American institutions and in London and in Paris and the BBC and all of it. | ||
| How do they partner with, and this is why I do appreciate Hamas and Hezbollah, they're quite blunt about they are Sharia supremacist. | ||
| Their first target happens to be the Jewish state in Israel and the Jews. | ||
| They're coming for everybody and they're upfront about this. | ||
| They don't hide it. | ||
| They are Sharia supremacists. | ||
| And until the world, starting in the Middle East, is governed by Sharia law, their mission to God is not complete, sir. | ||
| Well, I completely agree. | ||
| You've correctly characterized These various Muslim supremacist movements, but to go back to the woke coalition in the United States, I think people are mistaken to think that woke neo-Marxism is a kind of liberalism. | ||
| All the talk about being sensitive, you know, that's the old liberal talk that we should listen to everybody's perspective. | ||
| That's like, you know, in the 1990s, when I was a doctoral student at Rutgers University, was a very left-wing campus then, but I was able to sit in, literally, in Marxist classrooms with Marxist professors. | ||
| All the students are Marxists, and I'm a conservative and a nationalist and a religious Jew, and they were able to tolerate me and allow me to be part of the conversation. | ||
| That's the old liberalism. | ||
| We have to understand that that is dead and gone. | ||
| The new woke is a form, it's a variant of neo-Marxism. | ||
| It's framework does not see the world in terms of being nice to people or tolerating people. | ||
| Its basic framework is oppressor versus oppressed. | ||
| And the woke ideologues come to every single situation, every human situation, and they ask, who is the oppressor and who is the oppressed in this situation? | ||
| So they look at men and women and they say, the oppressor is the men and the oppressed is the women. | ||
| They look at Blacks and whites, and they say the whites are the oppressor and the blacks are the oppressed. | ||
| The same exact mechanism is taking place here. | ||
| They look at the Middle East and for whatever reasons they decide that the Jews are like the oppressive males or white people and the oppressed are the Arabs or the Palestinians. | ||
| And so the dynamic on America's campuses, and not only in the universities, but in all of the formerly liberal institutions almost in America, the dynamic is to ask, who's the oppressor? | ||
| Answer, Israel is the oppressor. | ||
| Being the oppressor makes you wrong. | ||
| And because they don't have a Christian or Jewish moral framework to say, oh, well, slaughtering innocent civilians, well, that's bad. | ||
| Those are the bad guys. | ||
| But we see that that's not their framework. | ||
| Their framework is, Israel is the oppressor, the Jews are the oppressor, and because they're the oppressor, whatever we do to them is justified. | ||
| And that's true whether it's torturing and raping and slaughtering civilians in southern Israel or on the campuses. | ||
| We're seeing this, you know, for a long time we've seen persecution of conservatives. | ||
| At the moment, we're seeing explicitly a persecution of Jews on the American campuses because every Jewish student is part of the oppressor. | ||
| And certainly, if he or she stands up and says, look, I think Israel has a legitimate complaint, has legitimate arguments, then that student immediately gets labeled as an oppressor. | ||
| And anything is legitimate in order to suppress that student and, if possible, remove him or her from the campus. | ||
| Is that the connective tissue that gets to the invasion of the southern border? | ||
| We have a crew down there, they're going to talk to us about 60,000 coming up, and at 6,000 that the Israelis, the Jews are colonizers, they're oppressors, right? | ||
| They came from the Judeo-Christian West after Balfour came back, or the ones that were there, but they're the oppressors. | ||
| The United States, you don't have sovereignty, you don't have a border, you're the colonizers, you're the oppressors, and so the whole world can just come up here and walk in and have the same rights and benefits of American citizens and basically be underwritten by American taxpayers? | ||
| Is that the connective tissue? | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| Look at it this way. | ||
| The Jews coming back to their land from the perspective of the woke neo-Marxist coalition, they're the equivalent of the Anglo-Protestants coming to America. | ||
| And for them, Anglo-Protestants coming to settle in America, that's the original sin. | ||
| And anything that happens to people within North America is viewed from that perspective. | ||
| So, obviously, I'm not saying that everything that That the group that's designated as the oppressor, I'm not saying that everything they do is right, but our framework is moral. | ||
| We want to judge everything that happens on should they have done this, shouldn't they have done it? | ||
| Was it reasonable? | ||
| Was it justified? | ||
| But our opponents are not like that. | ||
| They're saying Anglo-Protestant Protestants came to America. | ||
| They took the land away. | ||
| They oppressed the Native Americans. | ||
| Later, somehow, the Spanish-speaking populations in Central and South America all end up being the oppressed. | ||
| It's a little bit strange, but when you compare Hispanics to Americans, they're supposed to be the oppressed brown people. | ||
| And when the oppressed brown people are demanding to improve their lives by coming to the United States, The liberals don't have an argument against it because they say that everybody on earth is equal, so they have difficulty distinguishing between Americans and foreigners. | ||
| That whole distinction is problematic even for liberals. | ||
| But certainly for woke neo-Marxists, for the woke, the whole point of bringing people across the border is to end the reign of the oppressors. | ||
| That's to end the system that was created by the Anglo-Protestants who came here And today they're Catholic and Jewish allies. | ||
| That's the goal. | ||
| The goal is to end that system, to end that oppression of brown people by white people. | ||
| That's the way they talk. | ||
| That's the way they think. | ||
| And so flooding the border, bringing as many people into the United States who can put an end to this supposedly evil rule that was created by Anglo-Protestant settlers, that's the whole purpose of the thing. | ||
| Help me out here. | ||
| By the way, we'd like to hold you through the next break if that's possible. | ||
| Kash Patel is going to join us. | ||
| His amazing testimony yesterday in the trial in Denver that really walked through the Department of Defense's response or preparation for J6. | ||
| Help me. | ||
| I was a young paper boy in 67. | ||
| We have a big issue in our country, particularly veterans that have served, about the senior level command structure in our military being very woke. | ||
| the Jewish Spartans, right? And then in 73, kind of caught unawares by the Arab armies, once again the Jewish Spartans throw down a win. We have a big issue in our country, particularly veterans that have served about the senior level command structure in our military being very woke. Tommy Tuberville's fighting a historic fight up on Capitol Hill right now about this whole DEI in the military and what's happened to it. When we look at what happened on 7 October, are your allies here in the United States, and particularly | ||
| people, the evangelical community, etc., that have the back of the Israeli state of Israel, should we be concerned that maybe we're not in partnership? | ||
| I know that we've got a woke military now, although our men and women in the field have been just unbelievably courageous and showing incredible valor. | ||
| And toughness. | ||
| Should we be concerned that the society in Israel, as it's gotten wealthier, maybe you're not the Jewish Spartans of 67 or 73? | ||
| Look, I think that's a, I think it's a legitimate concern for every country that as it becomes wealthier, I would actually say as it becomes more liberal, as it imports Western liberalism, Which is not exactly the same thing as the founding nationalism, the labor nationalism that was Israel's founding ethos was hardly liberal. | ||
| But yeah, that's a completely reasonable thing to ask. | ||
| But I would also be careful about jumping to too many conclusions on the basis of what happened on October 7th. | ||
| It's obvious that many catastrophic mistakes were made, but we're not going to find out exactly what the nature of those mistakes were for months. | ||
| And we should remember that 1973 was also a catastrophic intelligence blunder. | ||
| And that was six years after 1967. | ||
| In 1967, the Israelis were invincible. | ||
| In 1967, the Israelis were invincible. | ||
| And in 1973, six years later, the Egyptian surprise attack on Yom Kippur caught Israel completely off guard. | ||
| There were only several hundred Israeli soldiers in the Bar Lev Line defenses along the Suez Canal. | ||
| They were easily overrun. | ||
| And 2,500 Israeli soldiers were killed in those three weeks. | ||
| Israel's population at the time was not even three million. | ||
| So look, I think that catastrophic mistakes, they can also happen to Israel. | ||
| to people who have a reputation or who even are Spartan warriors. | ||
| By the way, the Spartans lost plenty of wars, too. | ||
| Yoram, hang on for a second. | ||
| I've got to hold you for a few minutes after the break. | ||
| Yoram Rezani from Jerusalem. | ||
| Kash Patel up next. | ||
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We'll fight till they're all gone. | |
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Let's take down the C.C.P. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. | ||
| Yoram, what should, for our audience to be smart and not get, um, distracted by the fog of war? | ||
| Particularly, I think he got Biden, was confronted by some person last night. | ||
| He's saying, hey, maybe it'll be a humanitarian pause. | ||
| You've got, obviously, you see Caitlin Collins hectoring the ambassador, who, by the way, I think he's one of the best guys you put forward. | ||
| He's a very seems solid guy, very straightforward, tries to give information. | ||
| We see him on BBC and all the international networks all the time. | ||
| She's haranguing him. | ||
| You're going to see more and more of that. | ||
| A lot of hand-wringing while this military operation goes on. | ||
| If the state's purpose is that it's the third Gaza war, at the end of this, the Muslim Brotherhood's military franchise in Gaza is going to be totally and completely destroyed. | ||
| That's a tall order. | ||
| So what should folks look for? | ||
| We'll try to have you back on subject to your availability next week, but over the next couple of days and weekend, what should folks look for? | ||
| First of all, the government, the Israeli government, Netanyahu and Gantz have been extremely clear. | ||
| that this is a war that's going to go on for months. | ||
| They're conquering the northern half of the Gaza Strip. | ||
| They have not yet commented about the southern half at the moment. | ||
| They're conquering the northern half. | ||
| And they've asked all civilians repeatedly to leave the northern, the Gaza City and the northern half of the Gaza Strip out of a population of about a million. | ||
| The estimate is that 800,000 have already left and there's about 200,000 remaining there. | ||
| Israel is trying to keep up the pressure in such a way that the Hamas begs for a ceasefire. | ||
| Now, there's not going to be a ceasefire except under very particular conditions. | ||
| Don't forget that the Hamas has kidnapped approximately 230, we don't know the actual number, Israelis and some foreigners. | ||
| There's approximately 230 hostages being held in the tunnels under Gaza. | ||
| And the one thing that might induce Netanyahu's unity government in Israel to accept a temporary ceasefire would either be to allow the release of all the hostages, or possibly, potentially, if we can arrange to have the rest of those 200,000 civilians in Gaza City moved south to Khan Yunis. | ||
| Those are strategic objectives for Israel, because Israel obviously wants the hostages released alive. | ||
| And because for Israel, it's terrible to have civilians continue to be in the combat zone. | ||
| I mean, the Hamas is just, look, two nights ago, I'll just tell you one quick thing. | ||
| Two nights ago on Tuesday night, when the Israeli military reached Jabalia, which is four miles north of Gaza City, they reached a Hamas, a Muslim Brotherhood command center near Jabalia. | ||
| And when the Hamas saw that they were going to be overwhelmed, they released, according to Israeli press reports this morning, they released 100 children and women and forced them to walk in the direction of the Israeli fire in order to get the Israelis to back down and stop firing. | ||
| We're dealing with an absolutely merciless, relentless foe that Actually wants the death of its own civilians because they're great propaganda against Israel. | ||
| So ceasefire in one of two conditions, either in exchange for full hostage release or in exchange for the expedited removal of the civilian population. | ||
| In either case, Israel is going to go back to war very quickly because, as you said, the third Gaza war is going to be the last one in terms of the war aims of the Israeli government. | ||
| You know this is, I get back to the Hamas being the Gaza military franchise and political group of the Muslim Brotherhood and that Hezbollah is just the Shiite version in Lebanon from the Persians. | ||
| And this is why I think it's hurt all of us to secularize these people over the last couple years because they're not secular at all. | ||
| They are clearly Islamic Sharia supremacist. | ||
| And in their philosophy, their theory, sending the kids up into the fire, it's just part of the deal. | ||
| That's not, we look at it in a very Western, oh, that's terrible, you're sending kids, you know, the Judeo-Christian kind of framework that we fight. | ||
| And that's not, and we still in the United States have not learned that in 20 years of combat in Afghanistan and Iraq. | ||
| It's just a different deal. | ||
| And you have to understand that. | ||
| It's a totally different way of thinking. | ||
| And this is why the guy in Hamas yesterday, the leader in Hamas, when he's in Qatar and he says, hey, you think October 7th's bad? | ||
| With the babies cut up in the ovens and raping the women in front of their wives and burning them up so you can't divide them. | ||
| He says, we're going to have a second, third, fourth, fifth. | ||
| And he's cheered. | ||
| Of course he's cheered. | ||
| And the senior guys in Qatar, who we have a deal with, have a base with, and we have all their money and all these private equity lended by sports teams. | ||
| They're not just part of it. | ||
| They're a driving focus of it. | ||
| Unless we wake up. | ||
| Wake up. | ||
| Awaken. | ||
| To exactly what's going on, to see what you see. | ||
| Unless we do that, we're not going to win this war. | ||
| We're just not. | ||
| All the military equipment, all the military, all the bravery, all the courage of the Israeli troops and the IDF and the American troops, until we awaken to what this war is actually about, and how it has a front on the southern border of the United States of America and now in every city, and fentanyl being the chemical warfare part of that, until you awaken to that, We will not win. | ||
| Not over the long run. | ||
| Just not going to happen. | ||
| We must awaken to what the enemy really is and how the enemy really thinks. | ||
| Joram, one last thing. | ||
| Your son wrote an amazing piece. | ||
| I think it was in Newsweek. | ||
| He goes to Notre Dame about we don't need American troops to do this. | ||
| The Israelis can do this themselves. | ||
| You just need support of materiel. | ||
| Your thoughts on that? | ||
| My son is right. | ||
| He's reflecting 75 years of Israeli military doctrine. | ||
| Israel does not accept foreign soldiers to fight its wars. | ||
| The entire purpose of the State of Israel is for Jews to be able to defend themselves. | ||
| And obviously that means sometimes we Jews in Israel, we can make terrible mistakes, as we've seen in the last few weeks. | ||
| But the basic point is Israel will never do what Ukraine is doing. | ||
| Demanding that American forces come and fight for them and save them. | ||
| That's the opposite of the purpose of the Jewish state. | ||
| Our goal is to be as strong as possible. | ||
| We want to be a good ally to the United States. | ||
| We'd like for the United States to be comfortable with helping us with logistics and intelligence and munitions, which you've been great in doing. | ||
| But the war has to be fought by Israelis. | ||
| The moment that Americans start fighting Israel's wars, Israel will become like a European country. | ||
| Weak and effete and a protectorate and a dependency. | ||
| No one in Israel is interested in that. | ||
| Yoram, how do people get to you? | ||
| The book is amazing. | ||
| How do they get to all your writing, social media, all of it? | ||
| Yoram Fazzoni. | ||
| You see it on the screen there. | ||
| Y-O-R-A-M-H-A-Z-O-N-Y dot org. | ||
| And all my books are there. | ||
| And you can subscribe. | ||
| There's a newsletter. | ||
| I look forward to communicating with all of you. | ||
| Yeah, and we look forward to having you back. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. | ||
| Thanks for carving out time. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
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God bless. | |
| You're Hazoni from Jerusalem. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Cash, I'm going to hold the cold open because I've got to get to this amazing testimony yesterday. | ||
| But Cash, jump in here. | ||
| Give me your assessment of where we are in this thing. | ||
| On Israel? | ||
| Israel and the broader war in the Middle East. | ||
| You're going to be the new CIA director. | ||
| You know, you got Brennan on there. | ||
| No, you got Brennan and Clapper sprouting nonsense. | ||
| So I want to hear from somebody that's actually going to be an action officer for President Trump and the new administration. | ||
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Right. | |
| For those that are new to the war room, let's remind people who Brennan and Clapper are. | ||
| Those are the guys that unlawfully surveilled Senate staffers and lied about it to the world. | ||
| And also launched the Russiagate operation covertly and lied about it to the world and still maintain their security clearance. | ||
| So you can listen to them or you can listen to people on the ground who have been doing this apolitically for a long time. | ||
| These government gangsters have set us up for another world war, and they're the only ones who are going to get rich off of it. | ||
| They do not care about the American position that we are now put in with our greatest ally in Israel. | ||
| They do not care about the thousands of people over there that are going to be entrapped in a war. | ||
| They only care about the political narrative that somehow Joe Biden is succeeding. | ||
| On what front is this commander in chief succeeding by starting two new world wars Having Americans taken hostage, having Americans killed, having Israelis killed, having children beheaded. | ||
| What success has this been? | ||
| The intelligence failure was intentional because the Biden administration did not want to look for it. | ||
| Right now, you've got, and Yoram just said, hey, and he made the point, in Gaza City, IDF is in the tunnels. | ||
| You clearly see the air campaign. | ||
| But they're in the tunnels and there's pretty fierce fighting going on. | ||
| As from your understanding of the military situation, how it evolves, do you see this expanding? | ||
| In Persia yesterday, in Tehran, they said, hey, if the Israelis keep shelling Hezbollah troops in southern Lebanon, we're getting into this. | ||
| They're going to go. | ||
| The head of Hamas in Qatar said we're looking for a second, third, fourth, fifth October 7th, we're not going to stop. | ||
| We need more of them. | ||
| How do you see this thing develop? | ||
| I mean, Yoram just told us the military campaign in Gaza, and he's pretty dialed in, will take months. | ||
| Not days, not weeks, will take months. | ||
| And you're going to see these images up there every day for months and months and months. | ||
| And quite frankly, the images are going to get even harder. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Yeah, maybe people will now finally realize how long it takes to mobilize an armed force. | ||
| Maybe the Grundoons from the Colorado Trump trial can take a page out of this one. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| This is not ending tomorrow. | ||
| It's not ending this year. | ||
| It may not end next year. | ||
| This is a full-fledged war, and you cannot end war. | ||
| You cannot have knee-jerk reactions. | ||
| You cannot respond to the national security mainstream media. | ||
| That is how you lose a war, and that is what these morons in the White House are doing. | ||
| Seeking headlines instead of preparing the landscape, gathering the intelligence, reorienting assets, not just within DoD and the intelligence community, but talking to our partners and saying, you're in this fight with us. | ||
| Now we have to figure out how to defeat the enemy. | ||
| And that is a campaign that is going to take months and months and months and months, if not years. | ||
| We are talking about Iran, the world's largest state sponsor of terror. | ||
| We're talking about a foreign terrorist organization in Hamas. | ||
| We're talking about a foreign terrorist organization in Hezbollah. | ||
| And not to mention the IRGC and the Quds Force. | ||
| These guys have been planning for this day for probably 20 years. | ||
| And if we think we're going to wipe them off the map in days, then that is exactly the attitude they want us to take. | ||
| And I fear with Joe Biden, that's where we're heading. | ||
| You just heard Yoram about the connective tissue of the colonizers and the oppressors to tie it to the front of the southern border, which is our primary concern, the invasion. | ||
| I want everybody in this audience this weekend, wherever you are, when a conversation comes up in politics, maybe even started, I want you to rub your neighbor's nose and those in your family that when you wear your red ball cap or you mention Trump, spit on the floor. | ||
| And I want you to rub their nose in two things. | ||
| Number one, when Donald J. Trump was President of the United States in the Middle East, none of this was happening. | ||
| He actually reversed it. | ||
| He totally reversed it. | ||
| And if you don't think that takes leadership and moral courage, and they're mocking him and want to put him in jail for 700 years. | ||
| The other thing, when Trump was here, from the very moment he took over, he locked down that southern border. | ||
| Okay, you didn't have this invasion. | ||
| Trump wouldn't hear about it. | ||
| And now we have a massive invasion of this country. | ||
| And it's all planned and thought through. | ||
| And you have a war. | ||
| The Third World War is metastasizing every day in front of it. | ||
| And this is not going to end anytime soon. | ||
| People have to understand that this is not going to end anytime soon. | ||
| Unless we get very focused on exactly what this fight's about, it's not going to end well for the West. | ||
| Until we face hard reality, and in that hard reality, what we must do to save this country, I guarantee you we will lose. | ||
| The moment we face reality, we're on the path to victory. | ||
| Cash Patel next. | ||
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| Did you look to see if you were mentioned in the report? | ||
| With me and my council, a little background, we had an agreement with the committee that my testimony, since I was the first individual subpoenaed by the January 6th Committee, we felt it appropriate that the transcript should be made public at some point. | ||
| And after months-long negotiations, they refused to do so and published their final report. | ||
| And to my memory, it had been excluded. | ||
| And our council took that up with the January 6th Committee staff. | ||
| As to why the agreement had been violated, and I think on the eve of the dissolution of the committee, my transcript was the last one released. | ||
| Okay, yesterday, and we're trying to figure out how to do this and break it down. | ||
| And that's why I want to thank Grace and Mo and everybody, we got the live streaming going on this. | ||
| So let me step back for a second. | ||
| By the way, I want to go back to Yoram and to Cash. | ||
| And make sure this audience, because you're the vanguard. | ||
| So you have to have this knowledge. | ||
| This military operation is not going to end for months and Cass said, hey, it may not end for through next year. | ||
| And the military operation is only going to get tougher, not easier. | ||
| If you look at like the Civil War, if you look at World War Two, these, these conflicts, they start to metastasize and they become almost attrition. | ||
| They become brutal and more and nastier. | ||
| And this is what's going to happen on the southern border of our country. | ||
| Because it's inextricably linked. | ||
| It's inextricably linked. | ||
| You're the oppressor. | ||
| You're the bad guy. | ||
| You're the one that really doesn't have any rights. | ||
| You're a colonizer. | ||
| Remember that term. | ||
| Remember all these terms. | ||
| Because they're going to come out of these universities. | ||
| And we have to hold accountable, and we will get to that, how did that happen? | ||
| That doesn't appear overnight. | ||
| How did these universities happen? | ||
| How did it happen? | ||
| Who are the donors? | ||
| Who got the professors in there? | ||
| Who poisoned these kids? | ||
| And the poison in now grade school and in high school. | ||
| But if you think you've seen turbulence right now, you ain't seen nothing. | ||
| Global capital markets, economy. | ||
| This is war. | ||
| This is a kinetic war. | ||
| This is the kinetic part. | ||
| And when it starts, it doesn't get less kinetic. | ||
| That's right, go to Birch Gold right now and just ask Philip Patrick and Pat Bennett, just ask them, why has gold been a hedge for 5,000 years? | ||
| Just ask that question, wait for the response, and then you think about it. | ||
| You've got to make decisions in your own life. | ||
| Cash, I knew this was, and I told people during your testimony, it was so powerful. | ||
| And if people don't know, Cash was the first witness for the defense of President Trump in Denver in this bogus trial of the 14th Amendment. | ||
| But the legal aspect here is not the important aspect because clearly this is bogus. | ||
| This is political warfare and it's information warfare and it's working from their perspective. | ||
| Because now they're going to get into the local news and everything. | ||
| Well, hey, Trump, is he really eligible to be on the ballot? | ||
| And this is all funded. | ||
| Soros came in at the end, but the railhead of this is funded by Republican billionaire donors. | ||
| And backer Leonard Leo, and this is the Federalist Society, and you saw the article yesterday in the New York Times where it's saying, hey, the lawyers in the future are not going to be these whiff and poofs from the Federalist Society. | ||
| They're going to be hammers like Cash Patel and Mike Davis and others. | ||
| And by the way, is it by happenstance that Mike Davis happens to be out in Denver following this thing closely? | ||
| Cash, I told certain people in authority in Trump world that Cash, in your first 20 minutes, I said Cash's testimony is so good. | ||
| That I guarantee you not one mainstream media, I'll be all over Don Jr. | ||
| who just had his first day, first couple of hours. | ||
| That'll be the headline. | ||
| That'll be MSNBC. | ||
| They'll be starting that. | ||
| They'll be starting that. | ||
| But Cash's, which, because Don Jr. | ||
| yesterday was just preliminary. | ||
| He really didn't say anything. | ||
| They're going to get into it today. | ||
| But that'll be the big news because they want to take Trump's business empire and collapse it. | ||
| But Cash in Denver lays out in a lawyerly fashion exactly why Jack Smith hasn't indicted President Trump for insurrection. | ||
| You called their bluff. | ||
| And what's shocking to me, because I didn't even really understand this, is that you gave this testimony, Liz Cheney and Kinzinger and you guys, he gave this testimony, essentially, to J6 and they buried it? | ||
| Kash Patel, walk me through just the, not the details of the testimony, but just the testimony as a thing. | ||
| Yeah, look, you're right. | ||
| The trial is a total fraud. | ||
| It's lawfare. | ||
| And the funny thing about the truth is it never changes. | ||
| So when the January 6th committee asked me to testify two plus years ago, or whenever that was, I gave them the same exact information under oath as I did yesterday in the jury, or excuse me, in the trial in Colorado. | ||
| And it was just a simple layout of DOD's position on the National Guard, President Trump's authorization, and what the law permits us to do. | ||
| And now this lawfare has actually flipped itself on its head. | ||
| And these lawyers, by the way, the lawyers that bring this case against President Trump are from King and Spaulding. | ||
| Do you know who's a named partner at King and Spaulding? | ||
| Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein, and Gina Haspel. | ||
| Do you know who was a named partner at King and Spaulding? | ||
| Christopher Wray, earning $15 million a year. | ||
| Not a coincidence, deep state government gangsters are bringing this for sure. | ||
| Like you said, with the help of the rhinos. | ||
| And what they want to do now is say, oh, President Trump didn't order the National Guard on January 6th under the Insurrection Act. | ||
| So now they want a commander in chief to deploy military armed assets unilaterally. | ||
| Also, these grundoons from yesterday wanted the president to deploy and order the deployment of FBI agents. | ||
| That's the position they want the president of the United States to take, even though it doesn't jive with the legal advice given to us by By many, many brilliant lawyers at the DOD and the White House. | ||
| And they are so hypocritical, they will take that opposite position. | ||
| Because like you said, Steve, the mainstream media will now run with it and say, oh, I didn't know President Trump could be disqualified. | ||
| He can't. | ||
| It's totally bogus. | ||
| But you're right. | ||
| None of them are covering the testimony because they hate it when the truth punches them in the face. | ||
| Do you agree that, and Jack Smith, I guess, had access to your J6, and I want to hold you through a quick break. | ||
| Point blank, is your testimony basically one of the key reasons that Jack Smith can't and won't indict President Trump for insurrection? | ||
| You know, I believe so. | ||
| It's the truth. | ||
| If they could have, if anyone could have charged President Trump with insurrection, this special counsel, Jack Smith, would have done it. | ||
| And the fact that they can't is because he never came close to doing insurrection. | ||
| And now these guys in Colorado want to take it a step further and say, it was an insurrection and President Trump should have ordered the National Guard, even though that's never been done. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| What, what is, yes, that's it. | ||
| Not just insurrection. | ||
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| President Trump in the entire time wants to do whatever it is to protect the process, the capital, the people. | ||
| And he's kind of talked out of it by, you know, his betters. | ||
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