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Oct. 30, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3139: Stopping The Threats From Within; Beginning Stages Of A Third World War
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unidentified
So would you be comfortable then with a short-term funding bill that funds the government, say, until January or perhaps April?
Is that something that you're considering?
mike johnson
Well, I've talked to my colleagues about this in the race for the, in the speaker's race.
I mentioned that I would favor, for purposes of discussion, to build consensus around if there indeed has to be a stopgap funding measure, that we would do that until January 15th.
And the reason for that is it gets us beyond the the end of the year push and oftentimes the Senate tries to jam the House and force a nominee about a spending bill. We're not doing that here anymore. We're having single subject bills in our separate appropriations bills.
And so pushing that into January I think would assist us in that endeavor.
There may be some conditions put on that perhaps, that 1% spending cut across the board instead of becoming effective in April. Maybe we make that January 15th to incentivize the Senate to do their work.
But I don't want to get too deep in the weeds on the details of it because people sort of get lost in all of that.
But I'll tell you that we're working in earnest to get it done.
I think all of our colleagues are at the table right now, even the toughest fiscal conservatives like myself.
People know that we've got to get this job done and they're ready to do it.
As soon as I took the gavel, our work began.
And we passed the resolution, as you noted, in strong support of our strong ally and great friend Israel.
We had to do that.
And then I flew last night to Las Vegas and spoke to the Republican-Jewish coalition, as you noted, to send a further signal that this is a priority for our country and we cannot allow the brutality and the just unspeakable evil that is happening against Israel right now to continue.
We're going to stand with our friends.
unidentified
Well, there is now ground fighting inside the Gaza Strip, and we've been watching it intensify all weekend.
This did not unfold the way some had expected, with a blitz of divisions of Israeli troops and tanks going in, many reservists.
Instead, we've seen elite Israeli troops, combat engineers, bulldozers, tanks, armored personnel, dismounted troops walking into Gaza, going in from multiple directions.
Much of it focused in the area on the northern Gaza Strip, which you can see behind me.
There's been fighting ongoing this morning, and there do seem to be clashes.
We've seen Israeli troops firing.
We've also seen the Israeli troops coming under fire, apparently from Hamas.
We are now talking about a phase of street-to-street fighting.
We have also just heard from witnesses that Israeli tanks, according to witnesses that have spoken to our crew, are on the main road, the Salahuddin Road, which runs from the north to the south of the Gaza Strip.
That would make it impossible, or at least very difficult, for Palestinians to follow Israeli orders to go from the north, to go from the south.
Israel has repeated those orders with greater urgency this weekend, dropping leaflets telling people to immediately leave Gaza City, leave all the areas in the north, to come out with their hands up, to carry white flags if possible, and to head south.
But now with these reports of Israeli troops cutting that road, it makes that mission far more complicated, far more dangerous, if not impossible.
We just heard the new House Speaker.
You have some similarities with him in terms of separating out Israel aid from Ukraine aid.
He did say, though, we can't allow Putin to prevail in Ukraine because I don't believe it would stop there.
We're not going to abandon them.
What part of that statement is objectionable to you?
jd vance
Well, nothing is objectionable in the sense that if I could wave a magic wand and throw Putin out of Ukraine, I would.
But what we have to accept is there's a difference between what should happen and what can happen.
America has limited capacity.
Just in the Israeli conflict, for example, there are 300,000 artillery shells the Israelis would love to have access to.
They don't have access to them.
Why?
Because we sent them to Ukraine.
We have a rising threat of China in East Asia.
There are weapons the Taiwanese need that we can't send because we sent them to Ukraine.
We have to focus.
That's all I'm saying.
unidentified
Look at these pictures that, if you were on that plane landing from Tel Aviv, would have been extremely frightening.
Yeah, all the planes that were at the tarmac at that point in time when that happened.
And I think one of the things that we can certainly ascertain, Sarah, from what we've seen so far, is that this was something that was a lot worse than just a protest.
Essentially, what this descended into was this mob of people, this crowd of people, hunting Jews and hunting Israelis.
That's essentially what transcended at that airport in the town of Makhachkala, which is actually the capital, the Dagestan region, in the North Caucasus of Russia.
There's some really troubling scenes, not just of that protest that took place inside the terminal building where that was charged, that crowd overwhelming the security forces, then getting onto the tarmac, but also some of the people in that crowd singling out folks who apparently were on that flight from Tel Aviv, taking away their passports.
And essentially making them prove that they are not Jews.
There are also some reports on Russian media and Russian social media as well about another crowd of people or people from that same crowd also charging a hotel and going room to room also once again searching for Israelis, searching for Jews.
So definitely a troubling development that happened there in Dagestan.
And you're absolutely right.
It was after that flight.
from Tel Aviv landed. Obviously a very angry crowd was already there at that airport. It was quite interesting because we did see this morning there was some condemnation from the religious leader of that region. But we have also just heard from the Kremlin, they are blaming outside influence as they put it for inciting that crowd.
What is your response and have you spoken to the president about his request to tie the money together between Israel and Ukraine?
mike johnson
Well, listen, we're going to move a stand-alone Israel funding bill this week in the House.
I know our colleagues, our Republican colleagues in the Senate, have a similar measure.
We believe that that is a pressing and urgent need.
There are lots of things going on around the world that we have to address, and we will.
But right now, what's happening in Israel takes the immediate attention, and I think we've got to separate that and get it through.
I believe there'll be bipartisan support for that, and I'm going to push very hard for it.
unidentified
What can you tell us about what Hala was just reporting and the IDF saying it struck several Hezbollah sites in Lebanon today?
Yeah, well as Hala mentioned here, that's the dominant force here, Hezbollah and their leader just came out and said that they would be speaking, he would be speaking on Friday.
Now this is remarkable because this has been three weeks since we've heard anything from Hassan Nasrallah and this is a man who normally speaks on just about any topic.
He talks about gas extraction in the Mediterranean Sea, he talks about his conflicts with Israel, he talks about religion.
All to his adoring public and you know he has kind of a stature not just in the Middle East but really throughout the world as an almost kind of Che Guevara type figure.
But now he's been silent for the past three weeks even as we've heard from kings and princes and presidents all throughout the region and far beyond.
He hasn't said a word and that's been conspicuous and now it looks like he's about to break that silence.
But this whole region is hanging on tenterhooks wondering what he's going to say and whether or not he's going to try to push Hang on a sec.
steve bannon
We're going to come back to that.
Amazing.
I want to thank the team in Denver, Real America Voice, and of course the Crack War Room team for that.
Great.
That was what we were trying to play this morning.
We had some updates.
We were trying to play this morning when we had to go to Denver to watch this show trial of President Trump, trying to get him off the ballot.
More on that later.
I got a couple of heavies to start off.
Gaffney and Faddis.
Frank, and this is, you know, there's a focus, and Bernie Marino's going to be on here later.
He's running for the Senate.
In Ohio, talking about the bifurcation of the Ukraine-Israel funding package.
And Mike Johnson's come out over the weekend and wasn't picked up.
During the day, he has committed that the deficit or debt will not be added to one penny by the Israel $14 billion.
He's going to come back with specific cuts to make sure that that pays for itself.
But I want to talk about You know, the Muslim Brotherhood on one hand with Hamas and I've got Faddis here about the party of God, Hezbollah, the Shiite version of this.
These are the Persian proxies right now.
The Muslim Brotherhood's everywhere.
We talk about the securing of our southern border.
We talk about, you know, everybody's focused on this thing in Russia where they stormed the plains and they call it Jew hunting or hunting of Israelis.
This is what you saw over the weekend in the United States, essentially, with the Brooklyn Bridge being taken over.
It's hard to overstate it, Steve, I think, because we don't really know the full extent of it.
What we do know is bad enough.
Cooper Union, all of it. Talk to me about the danger we have within this own country of the Muslim Brotherhood.
frank gaffney
It's hard to overstate it, Steve, I think, because we don't really know the full extent of it. What we do know is bad enough. We have, for example, the secret plan of the Muslim Brotherhood to destroy Western civilization, specifically sabotaging our, what they call miserable house, by our hands and the hands of the
believers so that God's religion, Allah's, is made victorious over all other religions.
That's been their game, I think, from at least 19, I think it was 93 when that was first published.
What has happened in the intervening period is the Brotherhood has not only built out this immense infrastructure across the country, you probably have what they call an Islamic center near you.
They're in basically all of the major cities in the country.
Islamic centers is relevant because it's not just a mosque.
Usually there's a mosque somewhere in the mix, but the historic purpose of mosques, or these centers if you will, Going back to Muhammad's time was to be basically community centers used, among other things, as arsenals and fortified places from which to project power.
I think that's true in some cases here, too.
And what's particularly worrying, and you've done a fabulous job of this, Steve, is as we have witnessed untold Tens, if not hundreds of thousands of probable jihadis coming across our southern border.
They're almost certainly marrying up with the infrastructure the Brotherhood has put into place.
And then, just to put a fine point on it, the Brotherhood has deeply penetrated the United States government.
I think it began in earnest with Bill Clinton.
There was a fellow by the name of Abdur-Rahman Alamoudi, who became the head of Muslim liaison for the Clinton-Gore team.
He went on to go serve hard time in federal prison for terrorism, by the way.
But Alamoudi, after Clinton's era, the beginning of what might have been the Gore era, decided he'd hedge his bets as an influence operator for the Muslim Brotherhood by See what he could do to open a new front with the Republicans.
And he used a guy that we both know, Grover Norquist, to put together a kind of Republican Muslim Brotherhood front organization.
It was called the Islamic Institute.
And it was actually embedded in Grover's office at a time when I was sharing space.
on the same floor with him in his building.
It's an amazing tale I happened to witness on 9-11.
Grover Norquist and others convening after the White House complex was closed in the conference room we shared to map out a post 9-11 strategy and I think key to it was the idea that George W. Bush, who they'd been trying to get to, you know, romance these Muslim brothers,
would then be essentially surrounded by them, literally, at the Washington Mosque shortly after 9-11, and to begin espousing the party line that Islam is a religion of peace and jihad is about personal struggle and people hijacking these planes are trying to hijack a great Abrahamic faith, and on and on, all of which he did.
The point being, from that day to this, Steve, We have not had clarity about the nature of the Muslim Brotherhood, what it is doing in our country, and what it seeks to do.
And that's a perilous situation to be in.
steve bannon
The hard, I tell people, I had a lot of wins in the White House.
And even the ones that didn't have wins immediately became wins later, like Afghanistan, when President Trump deputized me to get us out in the spring and summer of 17.
And I tell people, the one thing Stephen K. Bannon was fully shut down on, couldn't move it an inch, as hard as I tried, was designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
A unified government came against me on, oh, they run hospitals, they're a political party, they have schools, what are you saying?
It shows you their power inside the U.S.
It shows you their power inside the US government.
They got the pitch down and they got the pitch down hard.
You bring up the fact, oh, that we should have the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, a full organized, complete shutdown, not even going to address it, won't do papers.
And you could, you know, if I'd have been there a couple more years, you could have gotten there.
But I got to tell you, Frank, it's something.
Frank, can you hang on?
I got Sam Faddis.
You also have Kerkorian.
Major story in the New York Post today with Todd Bensman.
Over at CIS, about unvetted tens of thousands coming across the southern border from every nation on earth, every terrorist nation on earth, the invasion of the southern border.
We got Oscar Blue Ramirez down in Tapachula.
We are lit today.
We are on fire this afternoon.
Talking about the number one priority in our country, the protection of the United States of America and her citizens.
Because if we don't take care of that, God bless Taiwan and Israel.
They can only hold on while the United States is strong and free.
mika brzezinski
Short break, back in a moment.
reaction here, especially on college campuses.
Cornell had a very scary situation, and Cornell is not alone, where Jewish students are feeling isolated, to say the least.
Scared for their lives and not seeing a reaction to like the Ukraine war or other things this we talked about off-camera.
But Richard, what do you make of this?
unidentified
Look, this is horrific. As you say, there's selective outrage here.
Where are the protests against all the people in Yemen or Ukraine or in Iran?
So I'm not saying, though, that everything Israel's done has been perfect. Obviously, it hasn't. There have been civilian casualties. But the hypocrisy of these reactions.
Second, where are these campus authorities? Where are they protecting Jewish students?
If this or any other group or any other minority on campus, do you think their reactions would be the same way? Come on. This is outrageous, what is going on. And the universities are clearly failing educationally. And they are clearly failing in their obligations to provide, to make students feel safe.
You know, we hear all this talk, Mika, about safe spaces.
Well, what's happening on these campuses?
We're not talking about people who don't like reading this, that line in a book, you know, in Huckleberry Finn.
mika brzezinski
Right.
unidentified
These have become truly unsafe spaces.
steve bannon
I'm going to come back in a second.
This is incredibly important.
And what my team put together and the RIV team is quite frankly breathtaking from what happened.
But the progressive left, the progressives that fund this, you brought this on yourselves.
You brought this on, this shouldn't be a surprise.
I'm going to get Gaffney and Faddis in here in a second.
This is what's happening to our media and to our government across the board.
And you're surprised when, and I got to tell you, The threat in Cornell was bad.
Go back and look at that Cooper Union footage.
Those four or five kids in that library, if that door had given way, they'd have been torn apart.
They'd have been torn apart, and they knew it.
I want to bring in Mark Krikorian, CIS, Center for Immigration Studies.
You guys are always the best.
Benzman's got a piece in the New York Post today that makes people's heads blow up on this invasion of our country.
This is what is causing this.
You have the elites that have not just allowed this, They have been in the back of formulating this and exacerbating it.
Mark Krikorian, tell us this about Grassley.
How many countries are here?
How many tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands are unvetted, sir?
mark krikorian
The piece in the New York Post today was kind of built on a report we released last week.
And what it's about was numbers we got through a request, a lawsuit basically, that the government wasn't releasing.
On the number of inadmissible aliens, people who have no right to come in, that this administration has allowed to use a cell phone app to schedule their illegal immigration, and they're ushered through the legal crossing points, the points of entry.
These aren't jumping the border.
They're being ushered across the border by the Biden administration.
And what we found is that almost a quarter million people have They've scheduled their illegal immigration and come across the border and been ushered through a legal crossing point.
And what Senator Grassley wrote a letter about related to this data was that thousands of those people are from what they call special interest aliens.
In other words, they're coming from Muslim majority countries that have active terrorist organizations.
What's usually done is when somebody from one of those countries is encountered illegally crossing the border, there's a lot more enhanced scrutiny of that person.
Often they go and interview him personally to find out if this person's a problem or not.
This administration is ushering thousands of them affirmatively across the border Swamping any ability of law enforcement to do anything but the most cursory check.
Is there a warrant out for them in the United States?
Well, if not, You know, come on in, because it's not like Somali government, if there even is one, is going to have any information on who these people are.
steve bannon
Kerkorian, Kerkorian, how could this possibly be architected any other way than to allow tens if not hundreds of thousands of bad guys into our country?
This couldn't be by happenstance.
This couldn't be some overlooked thing.
This was an active program to do this?
mark krikorian
It's not overlooked.
This is not a mistake.
This is not that they're doing a bad job at the border.
But I don't think the motivation is necessarily to bring in lots of bad guys into the United States.
Maybe, but I take people, I just assume people aren't monsters and I try to figure out why they're doing what they're doing.
And my strong sense is that the whole panoply of Biden open borders policies, this one and everything else, is based on the idea that immigration limits are immoral.
They think that immigration law is like Jim Crow and that anything they can do to get around the limits on immigration law is legitimate, even if nobody comes.
But of course, a lot of people will take them up on it.
So it's not a plot to bring in bad guys or Democratic voters or any of that.
It's just that they don't believe we, the American people, have a right to keep anybody out.
steve bannon
Incredible.
Mark, where do people go to get the report?
All your great work at CIS.
You guys are the best.
Where do people go?
mark krikorian
We're online at CIS.org.
It's pretty easy to remember.
I'm on Twitter, as this shows.
You have to like Snark and Sarcasm to follow me on Twitter.
The report, like I said, CIS.org, right at the top.
And this piece by our Tom, Todd Bensman at the New York Post is, it's also, we have a link to it on our website.
steve bannon
Incredible.
Kerkorian, you're the best, and you come in a little hot on Twitter, which I think is a great reason to follow you, sir.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
mark krikorian
Thank you.
steve bannon
Faddis, your article on Ann Magazine's amazing.
It dovetails directly into this.
Make this make sense to me, sir.
sam faddis
Our immigration policy make sense to you?
steve bannon
Do you think it's an active part?
Kerkorian proposes that they think any ability to protect our sovereignty is immoral.
Is there something potentially deeper and darker here, or are we in a real jam because of the Hezbollah activity in Latin America, Muslim Brotherhood, all of it?
sam faddis
Look, I hope that Mr. Kerkorian is correct and that all we're looking at is stupefying Incompetence and folks that are completely out of touch.
I personally do not subscribe to that belief.
I don't think, I don't think that accounts for this.
I think what we're seeing is malfeasance.
I think we're seeing folks that have destroyed our border.
There is no border anymore.
There's no control and they know exactly what they're doing.
The article you put up highlights the insanity.
I mean, we're through the looking class.
In New York City, you literally can be an illegal and now go to an office in the village and they will give you tickets to go anywhere else on the planet at New York City expense.
They will fly you anywhere in the world just to get you out of New York City.
I was contemplating earlier today, since I speak Greek, maybe I'd go down there speaking Greek and tell them I need to go back to Santorini, see if I could get some tickets.
All kidding aside, this is horrifying, right?
Frank was talking about the Muslim Brotherhood.
Let's grab a hold of one group.
Hezbollah.
I worked against Hezbollah for years.
I ran, that means I ran sources.
I recruited guys inside Hezbollah, ran sources, took down their operations in some cases, took Hezbollah guys off the battlefield.
Let's leave it at that.
Hezbollah is a serious group of boys.
They have been here for years.
They don't plan ops in a hurry.
They work years in advance.
We know they are on U.S.
soil.
We have caught them here.
They cache explosives, guns, case targets, like Pentagon war plans, years in advance, so when the order comes from on high, they can go hit the Empire State Building, the Freedom Tower, the targets in Washington, D.C.
Every major American city, we know they have been doing this and certainly they are here right now.
This administration is doing nothing to protect us.
steve bannon
What needs to be done?
You and Frank are experts at this.
You do great work at the Committee on the Present Danger.
We're having this huge political debate about the bifurcation of Ukraine and Israel, the funding patches.
Bernie Marino is going to be on here in a minute running for the Senate in Ohio.
Talk about it.
He's one of J.D.
Vance's guys.
But we're also talking about this priority that we've got to keep this safe.
Is this invasion so Far gone?
Is there any way, what do we need to do immediately like today?
What should you be in Mike Johnson's ear saying, this is what you need to do above all else about protecting this country so that we can protect Israel or assist Israel in its own protection and Taiwan?
unidentified
Right.
sam faddis
Well, I mean, let's start with the border, right?
It is, what people need to understand is it's not that we're trying to control the border and failing.
It is, in fact, the policy of this administration to move people here.
This whole conveyor belt of camps across Central America run by U.N.
agencies is funded first and foremost by the U.S.
government.
So we're not trying to keep them out.
We're bringing them here.
And then we're distributing them.
Now, Donald Trump largely had this situation completely under control.
So we are not attempting to do something failing.
We're actually succeeding in doing what this administration wants to do.
What could you do?
Go back to enforcing the law.
Shut down these camps.
Tell these Central American countries that, as Donald Trump did, if you keep moving these guys across your territory to us, we're cutting off all funding to you.
Live without the $500 million we give you every year, Guatemala.
That's what Donald Trump did.
In rapid fashion, this problem largely went away.
unidentified
We move on to deal with the Middle East.
steve bannon
Sam, can you hang on one second?
I want to keep you and Frank.
We're going to be a little jammed in these segments.
I've got Oscar Blue down top of Chula.
Bernie Marino's going to come on.
We're going to get through it all, because this is a conversation that has to be had, and it has to be had on Monday, 30 October, because now the policy alternatives are coming up before us.
Sam Faddis, Frank Gaffney, Oscar Blue Ramirez, Bernie Marino, all next in the War Room.
unidentified
I'll tell you what China's watching.
Here's what China's watching.
A woke military in which we're not teaching our Marines how to be tough fighters, we're teaching them how to be LGBTQ and DEI and all that nonsense, right?
And we're almost out of ammunition and munitions.
So if you're China, you're sitting there going, wait a second, let me get this straight.
You're going to send, and by the way, what is the definition of win, Frank?
Matt defined it as the 2022 borders.
Matt, that's not what Ukraine says.
Ukraine wants Crimea back, right?
So you're saying- I know what I'm saying.
steve bannon
I know what Americans should- No, I gotcha.
unidentified
I gotcha.
Frank's just saying win, whatever that means.
Win to me is we get a peaceful settlement.
But here's what they're watching.
An endless war in Ukraine that's costing us a depleted military, this potential crisis in the Middle East, A potential crisis in Taiwan.
And by the way, hello, this walk and chew gum story.
We're being invaded at our southern border by 8 million people over the last two and a half years.
How do we fight a four-pronged war?
So yeah, if you're China, you're cheering for the people who want to blow up all over the world.
Like, that money for Ukraine is going to pay teachers, it's going to pay Ukrainian public officials, it's being paid to God knows what oligarchs are laundering that money.
I'm sorry, I'm asking for you to elect me to be the senator for the United States of America and not for Ukraine.
And what a world leader does is he ends the killing and ends the war, and that's what we should be doing.
steve bannon
Okay, Bernie Marino joins us now.
Bernie, one of the biggest fights we've got going is Mitch McConnell versus Mike Johnson.
The folks in the House to bifurcate this Ukraine, make Ukraine funding be debated and stand on its own.
Your thoughts?
J.D.
Vance, your senator from Ohio is the lead of this.
Give me your assessment.
unidentified
Yeah, Steve, we cannot have any kind of bundling.
The reality is what they're trying to do is because they know aid for Israel is popular.
What they're trying to do is use Israel, the death of Israelis, to actually fund their war in Ukraine.
We cannot allow them to do that.
These are four very different issues, and they should be separated and debated accordingly.
You know, these neocons that want to blow up everywhere all over the world, endless wars, endless money.
We've got to put a stop to it.
steve bannon
Are you going to be able to stand up to Mitch McConnell?
It's one thing to say he's a candidate, but Mitch McConnell doesn't want to hear that nonsense.
He's ticked at J.D.
He's ticked.
And I hear this all the time.
He's in J.D.
Vance's face.
He's furious with Mike Lee, Roger Marshall.
Are you prepared to stand up and throw down with him?
unidentified
I'm not running to go down there to get along and make new friends.
I'm running, Steve, because I've had success in my life.
I came here from South America.
This country gave me every opportunity in the world to succeed.
I'm running because I actually want to do the things that we're campaigning on, put America back on a trajectory for success, and have our leaders unequivocally put the interest of America first.
Whoever it is that I have to battle to do that is what I'm prepared to do.
steve bannon
Coming from a background with your family in South America, we're going to go back to Sam Faddis in a second, talk about Hezbollah all over Latin America and coming up here in the United States.
What is your specific proposal on securing the southern border?
unidentified
We have to suspend our asylum laws right now temporarily until at least the end of 2025.
We have an invasion at our border.
What that means is no more asylum hearings.
If you have a court date past January of 2024, your court date gets cancelled and you must be deported.
We have to get our border under control.
But more importantly, Steve, we have to deport the people that came here under Biden immediately because we have no idea who they are.
And, by the way, deport anybody who came into this country illegally over the long run.
We cannot have any kind of amnesty, backdoor amnesty.
This is what's caused this problem in the first place.
Both of my opponents on the Republican side favor amnesty.
That's insanity.
That's exactly why we have this problem at the border.
steve bannon
Is that message that you just laid out, is that resonating with folks in Ohio?
unidentified
Absolutely.
They know what every parent knows.
If you encourage bad behavior, you get more bad behavior.
And let me just tell you this, Steve, for those people like me who came here legally from another country to watch this country reward people Who broke our laws, cheated, and lied.
And that's what they use as a cover to come into this country.
And letting them get rewarded by having the privilege of being able to stay here in America is disgusting and it's wrong.
If we're going to have a legal immigration system, then we have to have a zero-tolerance policy for illegal immigration.
And these people who are in favor of amnesty are completely out of their minds.
steve bannon
Bernie, how do people find you on social media?
How do they find out more about your campaign?
unidentified
So, BernieMarino.com.
That's our website, M-O-R-E-N-O.com.
Follow me on Twitter, at BernieMarino.
This is, for me, Steve, the fight to put this country first.
It's the fight that President Trump and you have led.
We have to be consistent, and we have to stop electing Republicans that say one thing on a campaign trail, And do something completely different in Washington, D.C.
Either you want to conserve the values of this country or you don't.
steve bannon
Bernie, honored to have you on here.
Look forward to having you back, sir.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Faddis, I'll go to you first.
That's a pretty hardcore message.
Is that the beginning of the solution on the southern border, you think?
sam faddis
Yeah, absolutely.
Again, look, we got in place the procedures, we got in place the people.
Go down to talk to the Border Patrol.
What are they going to tell you?
We're not allowed to do our jobs.
We're basically transformed Border Patrol into a welcome wagon.
Go back to enforcing the law.
Look, you got one of the top aides to the mayor of New York City, so we're talking a Democratic functionary, calling openly for Joe Biden to close the border in an official press statement.
That's where we are.
She gets it.
steve bannon
Last thing, Sam, you've dealt with Hezbollah all your professional life in the Middle East.
How big a danger is the party of God in Central America, South America, and coming up across our border right now?
sam faddis
Huge.
Hezbollah has a presence that has been there for decades all over South America.
They make a vast amount of money from selling drugs, moving drugs, amongst other things.
In particular, they are joint at the hip with the government of Venezuela.
That not only harbors them, but hands their operatives full packages of false identity documents.
So you, as a Hezbollah operative, can walk into the United States with a passport and everything else that is backstopped by the Venezuelan government.
Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans being admitted into this country.
Nobody has any clue how many of those guys are really Hezbollah operatives.
And when they start attacking things, it won't be they blew up It won't be a couple of people got killed in an attack.
I wish that was what it is.
When this starts happening, it will be mass casualty events.
steve bannon
Sam Faddis, where do people go on social media and how do they get to your publication, And Magazine?
sam faddis
Best place to find us is just go to And Magazine.
So that's andmagazine.substack.com.
But I'm on Twitter as RealSamFaddis.
We're all over the web.
Go to And Magazine site at substack.com.
We'll get you there.
steve bannon
Sam, thank you very much.
Frank Gaffney, you've been Cassandra about this issue for a couple of decades.
What is the first step, before I let you go, what's the first step that needs to happen to get rid of the Muslim Brotherhood root and branch in this nation?
frank gaffney
Well, Steve, I think you were on the case when you went into the White House.
We need to understand what we're up against.
We need to identify the Muslim Brotherhood as the jihadist organization, Sharia supremacist operation that it is, of course, that it is an enemy of our country.
It is not, as Jim Clapper claimed, a mostly secular organization that's issued violence.
We need to the point that Sam just made, though, I have to say, we need to think about this as the threat that it is both in its own right, but also combined with the threat of those Chinese People's Liberation Army Special Forces units that are coming here, you're saying in division sizes, all in, and what they represent.
So here's my basic point.
We need to put this country on a war footing.
It's long overdue.
We need to be surveilling these mosque complexes and other infrastructure that has the potential to be weaponized against us.
We need to be recognizing that whether it's the Taliban that Biden brought here, Legally, or whether it's the other jihadis that he's allowed to come in across the border, the Chinese special forces units, as I mentioned.
These are all threats to our very existence as a nation.
And I think that we have to enhance the resiliency of the myriad soft targets that are here.
And I would suggest that In addition to rebuilding our counterintelligence capabilities, the topic of, if I may say, a terrific Secure Freedom Minute that I did today, you can subscribe to those every day for free at securefreedom.org.
But in addition, I think it's time to activate National Guard units, not only to help secure that border, but also to protect These kinds of assets that if they're taken down, whether it's water supplies, or whether it's the grid, or whether it's other pieces of critical infrastructure, will take down America.
Maybe, as the Chinese like to say, without firing a shot.
This is the sort of situation we face, and I can't thank you enough for the clarion efforts you're making to underline the danger that's thus posed.
steve bannon
Frank, Committee on Present Danger, your social media, the show here on REV, where do they get all the content?
frank gaffney
presentdangerchina.org, securefreedom.org for the center site, securingamerica.tv for the television program, radio show and those commentaries.
And I just would like to say, Steve, I appreciate so much being able to talk on this program as well as ours on Real America's Voice.
It's an indispensable platform.
And thank you again for sharing it.
steve bannon
RAV is amazing.
Frank, thank you and thank you for all the hard work, the years in the vineyards on doing this.
When Sam Faddis says worry about mass casualty events, Sam Faddis is a no BS, no brag, just fact professional.
You've got to take it to heart.
Frank, thank you so much for you and Sam taking time today to do this.
Oscar Blue Ramirez has been on the front line of this war for many, many years.
He joins us today from Tapachula.
Oscar, you just got back from Israel.
Talk about the other front of the war.
What's headed towards America, sir?
unidentified
Right now, Steve, there's 6,000 migrants that today, early in the morning, they are leaving the southern border of Tapachula as they started walking.
As we have done multiple broadcasts before in the war room, Walking with the migrants, embedded with the migrants.
Today, 6,000 of them, they have left Tapachula, in the essence, to try to go to the United States of America.
The most unbelievable thing right here, Steve, is that you ask every single one of them, and they do not want to use anymore the CBP app.
They say they're going to deliver themselves to the authorities, whether it is jumping a wall, whether it's crossing the river.
So now, not only this Biden disaster that he has created, not only just creating this outlet of the CBP app, supposedly it was going to work, But now this is just a complete disaster.
Everybody thinks they're jumping a wall, crossing a river.
At this particular stage, after four years of this Biden disaster, of this border, this is continuing, Steve, to go to the United States.
steve bannon
Do you believe, I got about a minute, I'm holding you to the break.
Do you believe that your countrymen in the United States, or in Mexico and the United States, understand the level of this threat?
unidentified
I think they're complicit about this.
I think they're part of this problem and I think that they're doing this on purpose to undermine the United States sovereignty and the United States voters.
oscar blue ramirez
I think undeniably that, you know, a lot of the countries that are in Central and South America, they're part of this problem and they're part of the global compact on migration that is, you know, force the United States to open the border and to create this crisis and to normalize and regularize trafficking of people.
unidentified
This has been just a normal thing now.
It is normal to see people walking through a jungle, normal to see people walking through the sea, normal to see people be in traffic on the back of a tractor-trailer, and so and so, Steve.
So I think that they're part and complicit about this problem.
steve bannon
The footage is absolutely unbelievable.
Let's take a short break.
We're going to come back.
We're going to go back to Tapachula.
Oscar Blue Ramirez, special correspondent for Real America's Voice.
Be back in a moment.
unidentified
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Oscar, in Tapachula, Oscar, the footage is unbelievable.
Where do people go?
I'm going to have you back on the show tomorrow morning.
Also, I think Benzman will be ready to go on that huge story in the New York Post today because this is the priority.
If we don't secure America, and Bernie Marino said deportations now, and he's running for the Senate, he's got a lot of support in Ohio.
If we don't secure the border immediately, there won't be anything there to help Israel.
There won't be anything there to help Taiwan.
There won't be anything to help our allies, quote-unquote, in Europe.
America must come first because if we lose America, we lose it all.
Oscar, your footage is unbelievable.
I mean, it's just jaw-dropping.
Where do people go to get all your reporting?
Where do they go to get your footage?
And before you come back tomorrow, where do they follow you overnight?
Look at that footage.
It's stunning.
It's absolutely stunning.
It's stunning.
unidentified
It blows me away.
steve bannon
This could still be happening.
unidentified
Well, thank you so much, sir, for the invitation.
You can follow me on Twitter.
You can follow me on Twitter, Oscar Blue Ramirez, also at My website is OscarBlueRamirez.com.
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steve bannon
Oscar, just unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Tapachula.
Oscar will be there tomorrow.
He's going to be back on the morning show.
Mike Lindell.
Is Mike Lindell with us?
Mike Lindell joins us.
Mike, are we keeping that factory floor?
Look, they're in Denver right now trying to take Trump off the ballot.
They're in New York City in a courtroom trying to crush Trump's company.
Anybody that supports MAGA they're trying to destroy.
We will not let them destroy my pillar.
How are we doing?
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steve bannon
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Mike, thank you so much.
Tell the folks there, and we're going to figure out somehow to get the show back there and do a live from the factory floor.
That's how committed we are to your folks out there.
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steve bannon
Mike Lindell, thank you so much, brother.
Tell everybody there we got their back.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
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Here's the reason.
We've got to man the ramparts again.
There's so many fights ahead of us.
We're clearly ascendant.
You're clearly winning.
This is why they're in Denver right now trying to take Trump off the ballot.
Can't do it, not in the Constitution, but they're lawless.
We've got fights on the budget, on the CR, which I say, hey, if the Senate hasn't done their work and the House has, I guess it's going to have to shut down for a while until the Senate gets its work done.
We've got to take hard lines of this.
No Omnibus, no CR.
The bifurcation, obviously you've got to bifurcate Israel from Ukraine.
Ukraine's got to stand on its own and it will collapse.
Use the Hastert rule as we've been committed to, Speaker Johnson.
It will not come to the floor because you need a majority of the majority just to get to the floor.
Then Israel and even Taiwan have to be discussed and debated separately, as they should.
But still a priority is the invasion on the southern border and getting control of the spending.
Because if we lose America, it's not going to be there to help our allies like in Israel, to help our allies like the Free Chinese in Taiwan.
This is a time of testing.
And you've had guys like Faddis and like Frank Gaffney have been on this problem for years as professionals.
And that's when, so you see Morning Joe whining about these college campuses, the folks that have been demonized as they've warned everybody about it from the progressive left now, hey, guess what?
Some members of the progressive left are getting the blowback about what they created.
And the brave men and women that stood up through this year that were mocked and ridiculed and driven from jobs and driven from prestigious appointments were the ones that were correct.
We're in not only the beginning stages of a third world war, as we've told you, we're in a fight to save this country.
And I mean save it.
You see this invasion on the southern border, you see the globalist elites in our country that are lying to you every day.
Think about what you just saw with Oscar Blue Ramirez.
You saw that footage.
Think about that footage.
Which I'll play back later on my Getter Can.
I'll be up all night on Getter and back here tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock.
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