Sept. 21, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Thanks for joining us. | ||
| This story by Joe Flint and Amal Sharma and says at 92 years old Murdoch will exit his role atop each company in November. | ||
| Lachlan Murdoch will become the sole chair of that company and continue as Fox Corp Executive chair and CEO, and they write in the Wall Street Journal, Murdoch stepping back at an important moment for both wings of his media empire as they confront a fundamental challenge in the media landscape. | ||
| Fox, a relatively small player in an entertainment industry now dominated by Titans, is wrestling with the profound implications of cable cord cutting and the growth of streaming. | ||
| News Corp, owner of the Wall Street Journal, Times of London and other publications is trying to find the right formula for digital growth amid a fierce battle for subscribers and online ad dollars and it is hard not to look back at the career. | ||
| And conclude what the Wall Street Journal concluded, that along with Ted Turner, Senator Redstone, and a handful of other media titans, this guy really helped shape the media landscape that we've all been living through for the past 30 years. | ||
| Rupert Murdoch is unquestionably a media titan, but also a political one. | ||
| And that separates him from some of the other names you just mentioned, of course. | ||
| He gave birth to Fox News here in the United States, which became the first conservative leaning cable network and has become such a dominant figure in Republican and national politics now for almost 30 years. | ||
| So everything you said is right. | ||
| This is a moment of transition for both the newspaper industries, which of course he owns a lot of the British tabloids, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, as well as, of course, in television as well, as we see more and more cable cord cutting, pivots to streaming, and fits and starts. | ||
| So that's all significant. | ||
| Lachlan Murdoch now is going to be running. | ||
| He is seen politically as perhaps even to the right of his father on many issues, more of a populist. | ||
| So we will need to see how this shakes out here for this Republican primary going forward and the national media landscape writ large in the months and years ahead. | ||
| This cannot be overstated, though of course, Rupert Murdoch's age suggested this was coming at some time soon and it ends a game of real life succession, wondering who would take over the show in part based on the Murdochs. | ||
| But this is a seismic moment for both the media and political landscapes of our country. | ||
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Well, you can't look at the media landscape and pick out an individual company, a media company, a pure media company that isn't having some difficulty given the pace of change within the media. | |
| I mean, even Disney is having problems. | ||
| The Walt Disney Company is having problems. | ||
| But Rupert Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch is one of the more significant features of the 20th and 21st century when it comes to the media. | ||
| Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes, literally, the two of them, changed the nature of the political landscape that we talk about every day, that we've talked about for two or three decades. | ||
| They changed it. | ||
| They changed how people think of politics in this country. | ||
| Okay, Denver, anytime. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| When I speak, please cut it. | ||
| It's Thursday, 21st September, Year of Our Lord 2023. | ||
| We had a long tee up for that where my continual beatdown of the foreigners that run TV for stupid people and have done so much to help destroy this country because they were, they allowed the Republican Party and allowed the hardworking patriots that supported it and thought they were actually | ||
| Making changes in this country, this country needs to back the Iraq war, to back the Afghanistan war, to, you know, do all of Bush's stuff after 2008, the financial collapse, and then really never address, because they never cover really economics over there, business or capital markets, because they want you stupid. | ||
| The reason we got in this thing with the 33 trillion dollars, a big part of that's on the shoulder of Fox News. | ||
| And of course you've heard me rant at the speeches and all that. | ||
| Let me give you the reality check. | ||
| One, he was terrible in politics. | ||
| He hated Trump. | ||
| He was against us in 16. | ||
| He tried to kneecap Trump with Megyn Kelly as his instrument. | ||
| He fought us the entire way. | ||
| In the White House, his open disdain for President Trump is legendary. | ||
| Right now, this whole debate is the Murdoch process for the Keebler elves. | ||
| And the Keebler elves, to show you how Keebler elf they are, there's a report out today on the polling that DeSantis is in fifth place in New Hampshire. | ||
| What are we even doing this thing for? | ||
| And the reality check on TV for stupid people is the son is dumber, has less understanding for this country, and more radical. | ||
| He's a radical globalist, World Economic Forum, he and the wife, the wife's a crazy part of the climate cult. | ||
| So – and you see them yesterday cheerleading on Ukraine, and they're sitting there going, you know, Dana Perino is going, why can't we give more weapons? | ||
| Why can't we give long-range missiles to hit Moscow immediately? | ||
| All of it is just going to continue, continue, continue. | ||
| You saw Kudlow and all the team up around Trump. | ||
| What they want is tax cuts, 14% tax rate for corporations. | ||
| The world corporations they want a reward with massive tax cuts. | ||
| That's the kind of logic you've got. | ||
| We'll get into more on that, but Subic's going to join us a little bit later. | ||
| Zelensky, bad day in Black Rock for Zelensky. | ||
| The polls came out because he's undercutting them with Ukrainian wheat, Hungary, Slovakia, and Poland. | ||
| The farmers can't make it. | ||
| So Zelensky insults these guys yesterday at the UN, says, I'm taking you to the World Trade Organization if you try to protect your farmers. | ||
| And the polls say, hey, suck on this. | ||
| We're not sending more arms. | ||
| So now you've got a situation where he's showing up in DC and he's got no allies in Europe. | ||
| The biggest ally, Poland, says we're out. | ||
| End quote. | ||
| Says Ukraine is like a drowning man trying to grab on to anything. | ||
| We'll get all that in a moment. | ||
| Honored to have Ralph Norman, Congressman from South Carolina Five, a great patriot and really the leader or one of the leaders from the beginning of this revolt about the spending. | ||
| Rumor has it, and this is why we want to get you on, Congressman, we appreciate it, because you're a legendary figure with our audience in this fight to save the country from financial ruin. | ||
| Rumor has it, an ugly rumor has it, that you may be supporting the CR. | ||
| Now, I know it's not because of the debt commission, because the last person that would want a debt commission is Ralph Norman. | ||
| He says, we know what we've got to do, we've just got to get on with it. | ||
| But what is it about This latest, which we've got Burchett and Gates and you've got your colleagues, the guys you've been with from the beginning are more hardline now than ever on this. | ||
| What has changed you since you're one of the leaders of this? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, let me give you the analogy, Steve. | ||
| It's an analogy between a train wreck that hits a bus broadsided on the tracks, or a train that goes off into a ravine 600 feet down. | ||
| That's the analogy we have. | ||
| Now, we were supposed to have our 12 appropriations done way before now. | ||
| The September 30th date for the year-end budget has never changed. | ||
| We've known that. | ||
| Be that as it is, what we were facing and what changed, and Scott Perry is voting for this, Bob Good is voting for this. | ||
| The only reason I'm voting for this is due to the fact that, one, the Democrats had a discharge petition with 213 names on it. | ||
| Democrats. | ||
| We had 11 Republicans, 11 Republicans from New York, many of which were going to sign the discharge petition for this reason. | ||
| Uh, they just can't take a shutdown. | ||
| They wanted a 30 day extension, uh, and mainly to support the, the, uh, putting Biden in handcuffs when it comes to the border. | ||
| The only thing that the, uh, that Republicans have from New York to hang on Schumer's shoulders is the, is the, uh, is the border crisis. | ||
| And that's why AOC got booed off. | ||
| My first question is there is nothing we can do to make this president abide by and enforce the border control. | ||
| But what's changed is Schumer, all the Democrats are catching a world of heat. | ||
| All that to say is we were faced with the discharge petition which they were going to sign which would put Pelosi's numbers in effect for the next 30 days or 1.47 And so that's the only options that we had. | ||
| Now, was it a good one? | ||
| No. | ||
| Would I prefer just to sit back and not get anything to the Senate and let them control it and be unlimited spending? | ||
| As DeMint said, Jim DeMint told me, he said, Norman, you got to get them something, put it in their lap Wrap the immigration issue on Schumer. | ||
| They're feeling it. | ||
| They're going to have to put pressure on Biden to do something. | ||
| So it was either unlimited spending, and it really wouldn't be 30 days, it would be to the end of the year. | ||
| They had support on that. | ||
| And that's the thing that we were faced with. | ||
| That's the only reason. | ||
| Now, the real question is that we're putting to McCarthy and the team, when the Senate Gets back what we send over. | ||
| If we had a dollar in cuts, they would protest that. | ||
| They would, you know, spin into oblivion. | ||
| But when it comes back, we can't surrender on this. | ||
| We've got to stick with this. | ||
| And so, that's what I was faced with. | ||
| And that's why, of the two, unlimited spending, which they had full support, or a cap, border security, which they've got penalties in place, and they've got mainly the The Democrats are catching so much heat because look at the New York City situation. | ||
| Look at Eric, the mayor, asking for money for a crisis. | ||
| He's the one that calls by declaring New York a sanctuary city. | ||
| So that's where we are. | ||
| I would continue for 30 days and I'm going to ask to be on the conference committee, play Higgins. | ||
| Now, if they surrender and basically end up with a Schumer Pelosi-Bill, then all hell's gonna break loose. | ||
| Because we're not gonna go along with that. | ||
| And at that point... Hang on a second, but aren't we signaling... I mean, the discharge petition is so complicated to get through. | ||
| Are you signaling by caving to the weakest members we have, the people in New York who are running scared? | ||
| Because the last time we had a big shutdown in 2013, We picked up nine seats in the Senate. | ||
| We held the House and I think picked up a couple of seats. | ||
| Properly explained, like you just opened up, I'm either going to hit, the bus is either going to hit the Mack truck on the highway at 80 miles an hour head-on, or the train, or I'm going to go off a cliff of 400 feet. | ||
| We are on a precipice, and you know better than anybody, because you're actually a businessman, you're not a lawyer, you're not a country, you're a businessman that's done this, to be able to use this, and to use this crisis, which it is, And to sit there and explain to the American people that the spending is what's driving the American economy into the ground. | ||
| Don't you think that teachable moment is worth better than blinking? | ||
| Which we are doing. | ||
| In your logic, you're blinking to the weakest members of our caucus and the radical Democrats. | ||
| A fear of a discharge petition. | ||
| And you know that the Senate is going to come back. | ||
| It's going to be Pelosi-Schumer. | ||
| Is there any doubt in your military mind right now that it's not going to be a Pelosi-Schumer bill, quite frankly, like all the Democrats in the House want to do? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| They're going to come back with some insane spending. | ||
| That's where, if over the next 30 days, and I don't think he's signaling anything other than the fact that we put it in the Senate's lap, and it's up to McCarthy and the House, which controls the purse strings, as you know, to say, no, we're not going to do it. | ||
| Then the shutdown will occur because we're not going to agree to that. | ||
| But it was a bad, it was a bad, um, options, but no, I don't think we're signaling anything for 30 days. | ||
| Now the discharge petition, it was real. | ||
| Uh, when you have a Mike Garcia, who was a true patient paid Patriot say that, yes, we're signing that. | ||
| Not him particularly, but the New York guys. | ||
| We're signing it because we can't take a shutdown and we can't take, we've got to have the ammunition to hang the immigration on Schumer. | ||
| They're catching hell now. | ||
| So, yes, I was willing to, for 30 days, to one, have the spending locked, not just what Pelosi and Schumer wanted. | ||
| And then we'll see how it turns out. | ||
| Bear in mind, the timing on this, we should never have been here. | ||
| We should have solved this problem back in June or July. | ||
| Can you hang on one second? | ||
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We're just going to take a commercial break. | |
| I would posit that they wanted us to be here for exactly this reason. | ||
| They're not going to do the appropriations. | ||
| We'll talk about this after the break. | ||
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Congressman Ralph Norman is with us again. | |
| Congressman Norman's been one of the leaders of our movement. | ||
| Obviously it's a huge deal when he says he is amenable to this CR. | ||
| A couple things, Mike Garcia is a patriot, Navy fighter pilot, great guy, but he also And this is with a lot of guys in the military, and I appreciate this, but it's just – these are hardball negotiations, and you've got to use leverage. | ||
| He said yesterday that you, at the time, and all your cohorts that were running across the side of the CR, were the biggest aiders to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| That's just a fundamental misunderstanding. | ||
| The central issue for our national security right now is the financial mess that our elites have gotten us into. | ||
| You said it. | ||
| You laid out a choice. | ||
| It's either the train's going to hit the Mack truck on the track at 100 miles an hour or it's going to go off the rails and go down a ravine of 400 feet. | ||
| Those aren't great alternatives. | ||
| But back to this. | ||
| And I just fundamentally disagree. | ||
| I think, kowtowing to the New York contingent, particularly when H.R. 2 And you saw this yesterday, maybe you didn't because you were in conference. | ||
| Merrick Garland just lied. | ||
| As bad as Mayorkas for four and a half hours in front of the Judiciary Committee, perjured himself, looked people in the eye, obfuscated, just lied. | ||
| Even CNN last night said these answers he gave on the Hunter Biden thing were not appropriate. | ||
| We have more than enough laws right now to secure the border. | ||
| That's what helped the New York delegation is explain to them, or maybe they go to the border and we can, or go to the Darien Gap with our team and show it. | ||
| That's what convinced the people in New York City, the sanctuary city. | ||
| It's nothing in H.R. | ||
| 2 that's going to add that, but I don't want to get argumentative. | ||
| What we need is a solution. | ||
| Congressman, people look up to you. | ||
| One thing, when they're sitting there, the reason, and you were the one that argued this with us, Back in the debt debate about the lies and misrepresentations on the financial condition of the country, we now have a $2 trillion deficit, as you said we would, not under a trillion, which they said they would. | ||
| That has caused the economy slowing down, less tax revenues, less capital gain taxes because interest rates are up, less transactions. | ||
| The Fed yesterday just tells us it's going to stay high and maybe one more pop Don't you believe that the economy is going to get worse, that this gap is going to get worse? | ||
| As you sit there and look at the 1.4, that is actually, the denominator is going to get worse, and the gap's even going to be bigger. | ||
| And we're not dealing with that right now. | ||
| This CR lets the game continue to be played. | ||
| Yeah, but what I would suggest to you, Steve, and on the analogy, would you rather hit, take your chances hitting a bus on the tracks or going off a 450-foot ravine? | ||
| Maybe it's inevitable we're going to go down anyway. | ||
| I would rather take my chances, hit the bus. | ||
| And you're talking about 30 days. | ||
| We shouldn't be in this position. | ||
| And it's intentional. | ||
| But the real fight's going to be, let me play out to you... You do admit, you do agree that they had no intention of doing the appropriations bills in regular order. | ||
| They wanted this crisis to come. | ||
| Because to them it's symbolic. | ||
| If we fold now and give them the 30 days, The next thing you know, we're going to have an omnibus. | ||
| You're going to have everything rolled up into one. | ||
| The appropriations bills were rolled for one. | ||
| Do you believe this is symbolic to them as a major victory to the unit party and the cartel? | ||
| Well, it's intentional. | ||
| And yes, they, they're, they, we were all for five weeks. | ||
| We had two conference calls. | ||
| It never came up about the debt ceiling. | ||
| Again, September 30th has never changed, but for 30 days, would I be willing to spend as we have for 30 days? | ||
| And then get at least something. | ||
| Now, if they come back and surrender like they did on the debt debate, all hell's gonna break loose. | ||
| I would submit there'll be a motion to vacate. | ||
| Gates is already talking about this. | ||
| If they surrender and give the Democrats carte blanche spending like the discharge petition would do, you're exactly right. | ||
| That's when all hell's gonna break loose, and that's when Our votes would never support anything like that. | ||
| But for 30 days? | ||
| Yes, I would argue that. | ||
| And I do think it's legitimate that the Democrats are feeling the heat. | ||
| They're not going to go to the border. | ||
| I mean, if they were going to do anything, they would have done it. | ||
| This puts at least something where Schumer is feeling very uncomfortable, and those in New York know that. | ||
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Do you believe Maybe so. | |
| Do you believe that this, they're running around like little kids in the shutdown. | ||
| Do you believe that's an opportunity for us to grab and to finally be able to get, to adjudicate this to the American people, or something to be feared? | ||
| This government, at midnight on the 30th, is that, if it goes into the first, and we don't have anything, and the government quote-unquote, 15% are shut down, is that not an opportunity for us to seize like they did in 2013 and took the Senate in 14 with nine, a pickup of nine seats, including Tim Scott? | ||
| Of South Carolina? | ||
| Because people in South Carolina got galvanized about what was going on with the Obama regime? | ||
| Is it not an opportunity to seize, or is it something to fear? | ||
| Oh no, it's nothing to fear. | ||
| It is an opportunity to seize. | ||
| But I would rather do it on October 30th. | ||
| And again, if they surrender, I think that makes sense. | ||
| How do you think he got a Scott Perry? | ||
| Or how do you think he got a Bob Good? | ||
| Or how do you think he got a Ralph Norman? | ||
| It's because those are the two choices. | ||
| And to give them, they were excited about this discharge petition. | ||
| And you're talking about 30 days. | ||
| The real fight is going to come on the 30th. | ||
| And I questioned to McCarthy, are you going Are you going to put people in the ring that know how to fight? | ||
| Not politicians. | ||
| Put Clay Higgins. | ||
| Put me. | ||
| Put really anybody that's been in the business arena and doesn't have anything to gain or lose on this thing. | ||
| But we lose our country. | ||
| We're losing our country, but was I willing to do it for 30 days? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Rather than give it to Pelosi, it would be a... If we had done that, Steve, it would have been through the end of the year, and it would have been, you know, total chaos with the Senate, and they would have done it. | ||
| Just so I can make sure that everybody understands this, because your fan base is, like, in shock right now, I can tell you. | ||
| Are you saying that if you agree to the CR and it goes and the Senate comes back and rejects everything like that, that you've given McCarthy a shot and you're prepared to team with Gates and these other patriots and move on a motion to vacate that McCarthy has shown that he gamed the system and he lost? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's not even a question. | ||
| If he gives in now, he gave in on the debt ceiling, why do you think we did what we did? | ||
| You know, I'm the one who voted against the rule that defeated the DOD on the floor, and I'll do it again. | ||
| Absolutely, it's a teachable moment, but not to, as DeMint said, not to get anything back to them to at least be able to raise hell about the border that Schumer is weak on and all the Democrats are. | ||
| This is our only issue. | ||
| But now, it's only 30 days, and it's got a spending cap on it. | ||
| You know, I don't mind doing that. | ||
| I would take that choice all day long. | ||
| And if it were a long-term deal, like through January, no, absolutely not. | ||
| You'd go into shutdown and say to hell with any of the middle roaders are going to lose their seat. | ||
| And I guess it happens on both sides. | ||
| They value keeping their seat more than life itself. | ||
| And again, I would hit the bus and take my chances rather than go off a ravine. | ||
| If we granted, if we didn't do this, then we would have been given a green light to all the spending and the policies that we've got in the bill, on the CR, go away. | ||
| And so, yes, I'd do it all day long. | ||
| It's not a good choice, but again, how do you think it got the people that it, that it has, um, so, so far on this, because it's a, uh, it's untenable, but you got to weigh your odds on both chances and I'll take my odds on, on this. | ||
| And it's going to be loud and clear to Kevin McCarthy, whoever negotiates, uh, the, the comp, when it comes back, which we know it is. | ||
| If they give it away again, I think you'll see the motion to vacate. | ||
| I think you will have an uproar of all the Freedom Caucus members. | ||
| But now the majority of the Freedom Caucus are going to go... | ||
| If the 7 or 8... | ||
| If the 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 that we have that are hardcore are not going to lock in here, and so there won't be a CR, if they go to the discharge petition, and for the audience that's quite a complicated process, so the Democrats have to go with the 11. | ||
| Are you prepared then to move immediately for a motion to vacate on McCarthy? | ||
| Because that in itself, is there any more defining moment that he has failed in every aspect? | ||
| He lied to us about the debt deal. | ||
| He's lied to us about the regular order appropriations process. | ||
| He wasn't able to convince people on the CR and now he's basically had Hakeem Jeffries rule the House with him as Speaker. | ||
| Is that not an immediate motion to vacate, to remove him and let's get some new leadership in here, hit the reset button and try it again? | ||
| It's a matter of timing. | ||
| I hope we will get those seven on board for 30 days. | ||
| I mean, I hope that because now, if it doesn't happen and everything you said is right, this has been planned from day one. | ||
| I'm not naive. | ||
| You don't, you know, again, you don't stay out five weeks on vacation in your district and all of a sudden come back, you've got a crisis. | ||
| It's planned. | ||
| And I hope we do get the votes. | ||
| And you and I may have a difference of opinion on this, but Um, I hope we do. | ||
| And then if it surrendered and if this was just a rouge to, um, get it to the Senate and really not mean the 1.47 or the 1.52, those are the two numbers thrown around. | ||
| But you got to remember under the Pelosi Schumer plan, you're talking well in excess of two to $4 trillion. | ||
| Uh, that's what we, that's options we're dealing with. | ||
| So would I rather have the 1.4 or 1.52, as has been discussed, rather than the two to three that they had the opportunity to spend for the next three months? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Congressman, what is your social media? | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
| Because I can assure you a lot of the Warren posse is going to want to check in, check in today. | ||
| Would love to. | ||
| And Steve, this is legitimate questions, but, uh, you know, and I like hearing, you've got a great audience. | ||
| RepRalphNorman.com. | ||
| Look, you're still one of our guys, so we understand there's reasonable men can disagree. | ||
| I do disagree with Senator DeMint. | ||
| I disagree with you. | ||
| I think it's a time to what I call an investment banker in military. | ||
| This is a forcing function. | ||
| Let's force it down to its ultimate conclusion. | ||
| Let's take this fight now that we can win. | ||
| But I appreciate you. | ||
| We love you, Congressman Norman, and look forward to having you back on. | ||
| In the next couple of days, this firefight continues. | ||
| Thank you, sir, for coming in. | ||
| Okay, Steve, thank you. | ||
| You've got to respect Congressman Norman. | ||
| He's been in this fight. | ||
| He's a guy I would like to have in the negotiating room if they actually get to the table with the Democrats. | ||
| I do think that there's a better way. | ||
| I actually disagree with Senator DeMint and Congressman Norman, as much as I respect both of them, in that I think he got a hard 7, 8, maybe 9. | ||
| I think we can add to it. | ||
| The discharge petition, that's new news. | ||
| If Hakeem Jeffries is going to run, if he's going to run the House, And the guys in New York are going to fold, and I just think they haven't been briefed about how you can turn this to your advantage. | ||
| A shutdown is an opportunity to grab, not something to fear. | ||
| Remember that. | ||
| It's an opportunity to grab. | ||
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In person to Congress, because a new letter today has enough House and Senate members to block the aid, and they're still saying they're going to refuse. | |
| I think we all know, we've all heard him many times. | ||
| President Zelensky is incredibly compelling. | ||
| He's a terrific communicator. | ||
| But that communication comes from someplace deep and real. | ||
| And ultimately, and I keep coming back to this because I've seen, talked to so many Ukrainians over the last 18 months. | ||
| The real difference maker when it comes to success is the fact that they're fighting for their own country, for their own future, for their own lives. | ||
| The Russians are not in the same way. | ||
| And I think that makes the biggest difference. | ||
| And let's keep this in perspective, too. | ||
| Just over the last year, The Ukrainians have taken back more than 50% of the territory that had been seized from them by Putin starting in February 2022. | ||
| Now, the last few months in this counter-offensive, it's been tough, it's been hard-going, but they're making progress there too. | ||
| This is not the time to give up on them. | ||
| But there's one last thing that's important here. | ||
| We're also working to make sure that we can transition to the kind of sustainable, long-term support that we and other countries can really get behind. | ||
| And that means basically getting to a point where Ukraine is standing on its own two feet. | ||
| Militarily, economically, democratically. | ||
| And we've got 30 countries working on that right now. | ||
| We are the ones who save. | ||
| When there is a drowning, everyone who has ever participated in saving a drowning person, or everyone who has ever learned about what is happening in this situation, knows that a drowning person is extremely dangerous because he can pull into the depths, he has the power, he can't imagine... | ||
| Let's start with a note, we have so much to go through here. | ||
| And all you should know, we're going to get back into the shutdown. | ||
| It's an opportunity to seize. | ||
| I highly respect Congressman Norman. | ||
| He's a good man. | ||
| I disagree with his negotiating strategy. | ||
| I think we've got these guys, Andy Ogles, I think it was on John Fredericks, I think he's saying we've got 20. | ||
| Maybe 30. | ||
| No, so it's it's in this discharge petition. | ||
| I'm not buying it. | ||
| It's an opportunity to seize like we seize the opportunity Ukraine. | ||
| We seize these opportunities and you see whether you're going to change the dynamic and bring victory. | ||
| Jack, help me out here, because you're an expert in the area and a former naval intelligence officer. | ||
| Did Tony Blinken just bald-face lie to us? | ||
| He said the Ukrainians have taken back 50% of the territory. | ||
| Have they made any inroads to the Donbass at all, or Crimea, or anything? | ||
| What is he talking about? | ||
| They've lost Bakhmut. | ||
| Just on a factual basis, has it been 50% as the Ukrainians won battlefield victories, take 50% back, or is that another just bald-face lie? | ||
| Yeah, if they're talking about they've taken 50% back, he's probably getting his same information from the same place that the White House talks about the United States getting 50% plus more jobs, about inflation being cut 50%. | ||
| This is just another example of the Biden White House bold-faced lying to us. | ||
| Look, it's very clear if you look at the Ukrainian counter-offensive, it's been a complete failure. | ||
| That's why he was over there with Nuland. | ||
| That's why they're over talking about the two-track diplomacy with Russia, with Lavrov, talking about how we can find a way to come to some negotiation. | ||
| Now, Newland, on the other hand, she wants to go all in. | ||
| Newland and Kagan, her husband, they want to go all in. | ||
| They want to keep throwing Ukrainians at this. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they hate Russia. | ||
| Because they want to do everything to destroy Russia, even if it means destroying Ukraine itself, and they will fight to the last Ukrainian. | ||
| This guy's a clerk. | ||
| He's not the one in charge. | ||
| Actually, Victoria Nuland is the one in charge. | ||
| But you go and look at Zelensky, his trip right now to the United States, this is even potentially a bigger failure than the counteroffensive itself. | ||
| Because he's got today, alright, he's going to Congress, no joint session. | ||
| Compare where Zelensky is today, From one year ago. | ||
| And for once, there'll be two people dressed like slobs in the Capitol. | ||
| We have John Fetterman and Zelensky. | ||
| And so, you've got, last year, joint session of Congress, uh, goes out, has the joint presser with Biden, the state address, all of it. | ||
| This time, no joint session, okay? | ||
| House GOP and McCarthy shut that down. | ||
| Now, he's going over to the White House later this afternoon. | ||
| They got a meeting with Biden, and then- Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it Don't bury the lead. | ||
| He asked for a joint session, McCarthy said no. | ||
| Because politically, McCarthy... He also asked for a forum of all the House guys, and the White House said that they would give the House a classified briefing beforehand. | ||
| McCarthy said the members don't have an interest, number one. | ||
| So no briefing by Intel. | ||
| And they said they don't want a forum. | ||
| You know why they don't want a forum? | ||
| They don't want a photo op. | ||
| They don't want Zelensky near them. | ||
| They know it's death. | ||
| So he has no joint session, which he requested. | ||
| They got no briefing because they didn't want one. | ||
| They also told him they don't want a forum. | ||
| They don't want him in there pitching the conference. | ||
| He's not going to speak at the conference. | ||
| It's a closed-door meeting with just McCarthy and a few of his henchmen, correct? | ||
| It's going to be in the old Senate chambers. | ||
| It's not this big thing they had planned. | ||
| And we know Rand Paul and others are already stepping up and saying they will not approve any spending bill whatsoever has a penny in it for Ukraine. | ||
| Then at the White House, is there going to be a big joint press conference with the world's media sitting right there and sees Biden and Zelensky side by side as partners? | ||
| Biden, whatever he needs for however long it takes, sir. | ||
| They're going to be doing a meeting and then an expanded meeting. | ||
| So he's getting his Oval Office meeting with Biden. | ||
| I'm sure he'll get photos out of that, but that's it. | ||
| There's no, there's no Rose Garden. | ||
| There's no colonnade. | ||
| There's no, uh, there's no big joint presser. | ||
| There's none of that. | ||
| Remember last year, he's out there flying the flag of Ukraine that flew over Bakhmut and said, we are going to win Bakhmut. | ||
| We're going to take, he lost Bakhmut. | ||
| Then you said you were going to win the counter-offensive, you lost that too. | ||
| Now you're coming up there, and we got Duda, the President of Poland, and this is the biggest, really, rift, I think, in international politics today that we're looking at, that the President of Poland went to the United Nations, and keep in mind, he's responding to Zelensky. | ||
| This is over the grain deal. | ||
| This is about them trying to ruin Polish farmers. | ||
| He goes up there, Zelensky, in his UN address, and he accused Poland of throwing them under the bus because Poland says, we're going to protect our farmers and we're not going to allow the unrestricted sale of cheap Ukrainian grain into Poland. | ||
| So, what did the president of Poland do? | ||
| He says, number one, we're cutting Zelensky off. | ||
| No more arms transfers to you. | ||
| No country on earth has done more for Ukraine than Poland. | ||
| None. | ||
| They've taken in over a million refugees, but guess what? | ||
| Coming up next year, those refugee benefits are going to be suspended. | ||
| No more free healthcare. | ||
| No more free housing. | ||
| The free ride is over. | ||
| If you want to go fight for Ukraine, it's right there. | ||
| Go back and fight for it. | ||
| To the men. | ||
| Next, Dudas says no arms transfers, then he cuts an interview afterwards on the sidelines out on the street in New York where he said, and you played it there, what he's saying is Ukraine at this point, and he's referring to Zelensky directly, he's not talking about the Ukrainian people, and everyone needs to understand this. | ||
| He's saying the Ukrainian government has become like a man who's drowning that's trying to drown everyone with them and pull them down into the water. Steve, you mentioned bad day at Blackrock. | ||
| I think at this point, Zalinski needs to be very careful because if he's not thinking straight, he's going to go out like High Sierra. Now, hold it, hold it, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong, and this is not because of your Polish heritage, but correct me if I'm wrong. Are the Poles not, when I'm ripping on NATO and when I was working for President Trump in the White House, because all the deadbeats in NATO won't pay their bills, are the Poles not the one group in NATO that always gets 2% or more? | ||
| Are the Poles not actually our best out? | ||
| When we talk about Europe and all the happy talk with the French and all this, isn't it Poland that's really America's true ally in Western Europe, sir? | ||
| I mean, Poland, people have referred to it occasionally as the 51st state. | ||
| It's one of the most pro-American states in all of the European Union, certainly within NATO. | ||
| Everybody remembers when President Trump there, that Warsaw speech, which, what can I say? | ||
| I'm biased, but I actually do think that's my favorite Trump speech of all time, when he went out there and gave the full-throated endorsement of Western civilization, talked about what we're fighting for, our borders, our language, our culture, our religion, our history. | ||
| This is what our fight is. | ||
| This is the new era. | ||
| Because Poland, of all countries, understands what happens when you are overrun, when you are occupied. | ||
| Over a hundred years, Poland's been occupied, invaded, divided, etc. | ||
| How did the Polish people survive throughout that time? | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| They kept their borders, they kept their language, they kept their religion, they kept their culture, they kept their families, and they're holding the line even now against the open borders and the mass migration, the invasion. | ||
| of southern europe that's going on right now from africa and you've got her chinsky went down check out the island uh... where they're flooding the africans into italy uh... and so that we we can see the poland has been a bulwark against all of these things and stood a ball work the united isn't is it isn't okay so on the polls say no no more arms that's a papal bull and here's what i did it Slovakia, you got the populace up 20-25 points. | ||
| His program, and these are frontline nations, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland. | ||
| He's sitting there saying, nothing, no more, not another penny for Ukraine. | ||
| Hungary, you gotta negotiate, this thing's over, no more. | ||
| Poland now saying, no arms. | ||
| And for the poor Polish farmers, they're only cutting them with this mass grain, because Ukraine's like the Kansas. | ||
| And Hungary, all these guys sitting there saying, you can't destroy farmers. | ||
| Instead of working with them, Zelensky insults him at the UN and says, hey, we're going to go to the World Trade Organization. | ||
| We'll see you at the WTO. | ||
| And Duda came back and said, hey, how about suck on this? | ||
| No more arms, no more money, no nothing. | ||
| And he said the truth that in Washington, D.C., only Human Events Daily and Charlie Kirk and ourselves and a few others have been hammered against Conservative Inc. | ||
| Duda says it's like a drowning man grabbing onto anything and going to take everybody down with it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That is exactly what Victoria Nuland... Go ahead. | ||
| Speaking of drowning men, we should also point out that after putting me on a hit list, this transgender spokesman for the Ukrainian military has been summarily fired and placed under investigation, because I don't know if anyone explained this to people who didn't serve in the military before, but when you go and join a foreign military, that means you're coming under something called the Uniform Code of Military Justice, or whatever that country's equivalent is of it. | ||
| That's not status of forces agreement. | ||
| You're not an American soldier. | ||
| You're a soldier of that nation's far- you're wearing foreign cloth. | ||
| You do not get the protections that a status enforcement- status of forces agreement would provide. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| That means that that nut job that was up there ranting about how people like Jack Posobiec, people like Gonzalo Lira, who's a hostage right now, are going to go down. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| You're now under investigation from the very same agency you threatened me with. | ||
| So here's what I'm going to say to Zelensky, Steve. | ||
| I threw out, I said we'd get him the McMansion in Sarasota. | ||
| That's off the table now. | ||
| Alright, no Sarasota because he didn't take me up on that. | ||
| Now we're gonna talk Puerto Rico. | ||
| Alright, now maybe Puerto Rico. | ||
| We can maybe get you a plane to Puerto Rico, Zelinsky, but you gotta do the right thing. | ||
| Go meet with McCarthy right now and then tell him, sir, I'll give you all the receipts on Hunter Biden. | ||
| I'll walk you through the roadmap. | ||
| I'll appoint you. | ||
| Give me the guy's name. | ||
| Give me the name of Burisma. | ||
| Give me the oligarchs. | ||
| Give me Zlichevsky. | ||
| Give me Kolomoisky. | ||
| Give me all of them. | ||
| And then maybe, Sarasota's off. | ||
| Sarasota's off. | ||
| That's your choice, not mine. | ||
| But maybe Puerto Rico. | ||
| Jack, how do people get Human Events Daily at 2 o'clock on RAVs on fire, your Twitter feeds on fire, for knowledge about geopolitics, finance, culture, everything that's happening. | ||
| And by the way, the polls did implement Michael Savage's Language Borders Culture. | ||
| Not too shabby, Dr. Savage. | ||
| Jack Vosobik, ready to get to you. | ||
| Aw, nothing but love for Dr. Savage around here. | ||
| You, of course, can follow me. | ||
| It's Human Events, 2 p.m. | ||
| Eastern, every afternoon. | ||
| We've got a massive show that's gonna be coming up today. | ||
| We're dropping all sorts of receipts on this. | ||
| We're even collecting more as we go through. | ||
| We're looking at Zelensky. | ||
| By the way, Steve, he edited his UN speech to add more people in the audience, but they forgot that he actually added himself in the audience. | ||
| It's ridiculous for Ukrainian media. | ||
| They've gone full North Korea. | ||
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| Jack, thank you. | ||
| Follow Jack at 2 o'clock. | ||
| We're the children in Ukraine, the 100,000. | ||
| Short break, back in a moment. | ||
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| Okay, Andy Ogles said on, and we're going to try to get a clip later, Andy Ogles said on the John Fredrick Show right before we came on, he says we got 20-30 votes. | ||
| I count at least a dozen, right? | ||
| And people are going to be added to that. | ||
| They're going back and forth. | ||
| You know, people, last night, someone on CNN said, oh no, the 7th Crater. | ||
| Bershka came on and said we're harder than ever. | ||
| 202-225-3121. | ||
| You heard the case presented by Congressman Ralph Norman, who's been one of the best guys in this, and he's saying You know, because of the discharge petition, and this is a complicated parliamentary maneuver that essentially lets the Democrats get in there and do something if they have enough Republicans to work with them. | ||
| And clearly, they've got enough Republicans. | ||
| I believe that that threat is overblown. | ||
| But if it's not overblown, it should lead to the immediate removal of Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| Never lose sight of the fact of what we're talking about here, and even when you're going to see numbers 1.475, 2.6, those numbers are, I think, quite frankly, you buy into that whole thing, it's more of the meaningless hair-on-fire, run-around CNN that a government shutdown is, you know, that you can't keep, you gotta keep the government open, etc, etc, etc. | ||
| You saw yesterday, and we're going to try and maybe play a clip or two In the second hour, because Mike Howell is going to join us from Heritage. | ||
| He has a blistering report on really the Hunter Biden impeachment, the impeachment of around Hunter Biden and what has happened with him and the CCP and others about taking bribes for action, which is what this is about. | ||
| And you see Garland, they will sit there and lie to your face. | ||
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| And this is why You have to be very careful, and I think grab the opportunity now for the American people to see, of exactly how they've lied about the financial situation of the country. | ||
| And how they've lied about the invasion of the country. | ||
| Which, quite frankly, the invasion of the country has led, not in small part, to the financial collapse of the United States of America. | ||
| And that's what we're dealing with here. | ||
| We're dealing with the financial collapse and the implosion of the greatest nation in the history of the Earth. | ||
| This is why this topic is so urgent. | ||
| Because this republic was bequeathed to us for many, many generations that defended her and cherished her and built her. | ||
| And in the span of a few years, we have seen the absolute, this is not managed decline by our elites, which it was before. | ||
| This is an implosion, the bottom falling out of the greatest country on earth. | ||
| And you'll see what they'll do. | ||
| You just look at Merrick Garland yesterday, they're going to look you in the eye and bald face lie. | ||
| Todd Bensman joins us, and let's play the B-roll. | ||
| I'll play the B-roll of the great reporter for Fox who does some terrific work on the border. | ||
| And he's got this, you know, he's got Abbott and these guys are adamant. | ||
| And the reason Abbott's adamant, they saw what happened in the Ken Paxson situation. | ||
| This is all inextricably linked, remember this. | ||
| They saw the grassroots, and particularly one of the biggest groups was Texas for a secure border. | ||
| And so Abbott's got old-time religion. | ||
| Remember, Abbott's kind of won the Bush factotums, part of the Bush. | ||
| They won open borders. | ||
| He's doing it because he's got a bayonet to his back. | ||
| But now they've got, you know, they've got the pontoons down there, they've got the bob wire, the razor wire, and the federal government's making a big deal. | ||
| And now you've got a massive, at Eagle Pass, Texas, you've got a massive, another invasion. | ||
| Just coming every day. | ||
| And Todd Benjamin's here every day, comes on the show every other day, every couple of days with other blockbusters, including the IG report from a week or so ago that says, hey, they're not even pretending to attract him to the United States. | ||
| They want to make sure, what Trump said yesterday in Iowa, we are going to have the largest domestic mass deportation program, finally got the language right, didn't talk about criminals or the insane. | ||
| He said a domestic mass deportation will be the largest in American history. | ||
| Yes, we got the terminology right. | ||
| That's what we want to say. | ||
| We got it. | ||
| You can't do it if you can't find them. | ||
| They're doing it on purpose. | ||
| Benjamin, I'm gonna hold you through the next block, and I want everybody to look at this footage, but brother, you've got another, you did a FOIA request, this is another, to me this is another impeachable offense, and Garland knows about it, the State Department knows about it. | ||
| Walk through what your FOIA request showed of what they're doing to exacerbate the invasion of our beloved country, sir. | ||
| The Biden administration's DHS has been authorizing the flights from foreign countries directly into U.S. | ||
| airports. | ||
| 43 U.S. | ||
| airports, so far 221,000 migrants, uncounted, never discussed, never published. | ||
| Please don't call them migrants. | ||
| They're not migrants, they're illegal aliens. | ||
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| Are you telling me that from Places outside the United States, the Biden regime has paid for aircraft so that optics are not coming across the border to take illegal aliens, game the amnesty system, and fly them into the heart of the country on what, how many different airports? | ||
| So this is a family reunification parole program using a CBP-1 app, but in foreign countries south of Mexico. | ||
| The administration lets them apply for travel authorization, and then they have to buy their own airfare, which is far less than if they were to pay for smuggling, so it's a great deal for them. | ||
| And then they pick whatever airport they want to fly into. | ||
| These are just four nationalities that we got through FOIA litigation at Center for Immigration Studies. | ||
| There are also Colombians, Ukrainians, Salvadorans, Guatemalans, and Hondurans that we don't even know about. | ||
| So the 221,000 that we disclose in the piece today at CIS.org is going to be an undercount. | ||
| There's going to be far more than that. | ||
| And that's just for this year since January. | ||
| They are flying into 43 different airports. | ||
| They will not give us the names of the airports. | ||
| Imagine for just one minute if... | ||
| The mayor of New York were to find out that it's not Greg Abbott busing them into the city, it's the administration authorizing them to fly into JFK, which I believe is one of the airports. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| It's not Abbott. | ||
| It's also Newark Airport. | ||
| It's not Abbott. | ||
| It's not DeSantis. | ||
| Those were stunts. | ||
| They had good meaning in back of them. | ||
| I had no problem with them, but that's marginalia. | ||
| This is what they're doing. | ||
| And they're voluntary. | ||
| Yes, it's voluntary. | ||
| Listen, for the 13,000 that boarded Texas buses... Ho, ho, ho. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes. | ||
| Of course they're going to get... I'm going to stay in the Rio Grande Valley or go to the Big Apple. | ||
| I'm going to hang down in Del Rio or am I going to get up to Times Square? | ||
| Because I understand the deeper I get into the country, the harder it is to find me because they're not keeping track. | ||
| We're going to hang on for a second. | ||
| This gets to the heart. | ||
| Let's talk real. | ||
| Let's talk how our nation is being destroyed by the elites. | ||
| They're sitting there and laughing in your face. | ||
| It takes Benzmann. | ||
| Why did Congress not fight this? | ||
| Congressman Norman, I don't need an H.R. | ||
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| I got all the laws in the books. | ||
| They're breaking the law and laughing in your face. | ||
| Short break. |
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