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Episode 3000: The Trial Of Ken Paxton: A WarRoom Special
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's Saturday, 2 September in the year of our Lord, 2023.
You're in the War Room.
We have a special today called The Trial of Ken Paxton.
That's going to start When everybody returns from this holiday weekend, and by the way, just for program, we've got a fantastic special, well, fantastic special today on the trial of Ken Paxson.
This impeachment is going on in the great state of Texas.
Another, as you know, for our longtime viewers and listeners, we always do a Labor Day special and we've got a incredible Labor Day special set up on Monday.
I want everybody to turn it.
We are working on Labor Day with our entire team in Denver and in Our production team here.
We've got a lot of different folks on you're going to love the show kind of homage.
To working men and women throughout this country and also about building the alternative Patriot economy, which is one of the themes of Monday show.
Two things.
I said we weren't going to get bogged down.
I committed this audience.
We're not going to get bogged down in the in the the day-to-day back and forth on this law fair in these All of this is coming up against President Trump because they're trying to use that to divert our energy and divert our resources and time.
We're going to cover the important things.
One of the reasons we're spending so much time in Georgia is the Georgia situation speaks to larger issues about what's going on in this country and about opportunity costs and where people are focused on what's actually happening in these communities.
At the same time, they're putting a mass amount of resources and basically stopping not just President Trump, but the Trump movement.
Because remember, in Georgia, it's not just President Trump.
It's a RICO charge.
It's got 18 patriots, you know, citizens, average citizens who questioned the election.
And remember, the state of Georgia was stolen.
That is absolutely not even a debate anymore.
And they're rolled up now for felonies.
And you've seen how they treated Harrison Floyd and the whole crowd down there.
Something that really hasn't gotten as much attention in the nation as it should It's what's happening in the great state of Texas.
And Texas is not only one of the leading states in this union, but a powerhouse throughout the world.
You know, California and Texas and really New York are almost countries in and of themselves, their economies, their vibrancy, the robust nature of what they bring.
And of course, Texas with its history and the toughness and grit Of the citizens of Texas and what they've made that great state, given the tough history they've had, is an extraordinary example of the American experience.
But what's happening in Texas and what has happened in Texas is a manifestation of what's happened to this republic.
There you have a political class, the Bushes, that run the deal.
And remember, this is the same Bush family that in 1989, at the very moment that the Laobai Jing stood up and revolted against a murderous dictatorship running China, Deng Xiaoping and the Chinese Communist Party, and Deng was really the heir to Mao, right?
Heir to Mao.
When they were on their back foot and about to be crushed after an explosion of the liberty and freedom movement, Every bit as compelling as the patriots in our nation in 1773, 1774, and 1775.
They actually built a papier-mâché, the students at the Art Institute in Beijing, on about, I don't know, the 20th day of the revolt in Tiananmen Square.
And Tiananmen Square is right outside the Forbidden City, right?
It's this magnificent, massive square out there, built from ancient times, outside the Imperial Palace.
When the Empress of Liberty, which was a, or the Goddess of Liberty, which was a, as close to a recreation as they get a Statue of Liberty, when that was brought out, is when the authorities, and it became an international symbol immediately.
Deng Xiaoping and these guys said, we've got a problem here, we've got to put this down, we can't tolerate it anymore.
And they brutally massacred, I don't know, if you talk to people internal to China, the official number I think is 3,500, 4,000.
The true number is probably 40 or 50,000 throughout the nation, because they hit other places, but Tienanmen itself, it was murderous.
And while the blood was still, had not been dried off the bricks of the grounds there, Bush 41 sent over General Scowcroft to say, we've got your back.
We've got the regime's back.
You've got to make some changes, but we're going to bring you into the World Trade Organization.
We're going to bring you the Bush junta backed The most murderous dictatorship in the history of the world for economic purposes.
And the rest, as we say, is history.
Today, the corruption and crime, authoritarian rule, the social credit stores, all of it.
China right now is on a precipice with a new regime in Washington trying to bail it out and the oligarchs on Wall Street trying to bail it out.
As they're leading the BRICS efforts to try to destroy the United States dollars.
We've talked about so much in the show and we will get into later when we talk about what the Bush family did to bail out the Chinese Communist Party.
But if you look down at the current issues that face this Republic, one of the most important is the invasion of our nation.
And if you look at the great state of Texas, they're taking the brunt of it.
As much as it's hit Arizona and California, it's Texas, the Rio Grande Valley, South Texas.
They've taken the brunt of it.
And now you're starting to get some evidence and people starting to do things because, why?
Because the grassroots in Texas are saying, hey, if Biden, these guys are creating apps for the cartels and if they're exacerbating this and we don't need any more laws, they're not enforcing the law.
In fact, they're doing the exact opposite.
And you have these, what, the colonias down outside of Houston.
You have now these hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens are settling and they've got their own rule of law.
They're outside the judicial system.
The citizens of Texas are standing up.
And in all this, with an invasion going on and everything against the Constitution that the Biden regime's doing, and then you've got the situation with the schools, you've got the whole situation with the grooming situation, you've got everything happening at one time.
We're the priorities of the Bush elites in their home state of Texas.
Is it sorting this mess out?
Is it standing up in support of liberty and freedom and defiance of this illegitimate regime in Washington, D.C.?
No, it is not.
An individual, and this is why it's much, it's just like Trump's individual fate is tied up now in the destiny of the republic.
Only third time it's happened.
General Washington and the revolution, the founding of the nation, Abraham Lincoln and the run up and then the execution of the civil war.
And now Donald J. Trump, where one individual's fate is inextricably linked to the destiny of the nation.
So it is in Texas.
You know, Ken Pax has been in the conservative movement down there for many years.
He's Attorney General.
He was the first guest I think we had on here after Biden took the oath of office on 20 January 2021, where Ken Pax, Attorney General, said, look, where the Biden administration comports with the Constitution of the United States, we will accept that and work with them to execute what they're the administration to execute.
So now we're in a situation that when we return from Labor Day weekend, Ken Paxson is on trial in the Senate of Texas.
I want everybody to understand that.
but where it's against the Constitution, Texas will lead the nation in fighting that.
And that's what you had. So now we're in a situation that when we return from Labor Day weekend, Ken Paxson is on trial in the Senate of Texas. I want everybody to understand that.
Ken Paxson is on trial to be impeached. He's already been impeached by the House. He's now on trial in the Senate.
And this is much more important than just Texas.
This speaks to this fight between the unipartied moneyed class of money and power in the populist grassroots movement in this nation, a liberty movement, a movement made up of patriots, that's saying we cannot continue to run things like they've been run.
Because not only are we destroying the United States of America as a republic, we're destroying individual states.
So we've got a number of guests that are at the tip of the spear in that fight to explain to us the details of what's going on, but then the broader themes of why this is important and why we must pay attention to this when they want us diverted to every other thing, to every other shiny toy.
I want to bring in Tony.
By the way, I've got Jonathan Stickland.
I've got a whole host, and Jonathan's helped us put this together.
He was on the other day.
But I want to start with Tony McDonald.
A lawyer down in Texas.
Tony, can you just tell us specifically what is it?
Walk us through the impeachment process in the state.
There are many, many of our viewers.
We've had Jonathan and some of the grassroots leaders on, but I think a lot of the audience is still kind of, what's going on?
Paxson's a good guy.
How in the hell is he being impeached?
And why are they spending their time and resources on this when the state of Texas is being invaded, like, at no time in the history of our nation, sir?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, essentially, you have 31 senators in the Texas Senate, and they have a decision to make.
And that decision is consistent with the same theme that you're hammering on your program.
It's, are the grassroots, are the voters, are the people who elect their elected representatives, their public servants, are they in charge?
Or is there some class, a deep state?
The old Bush regime in Texas, are they still in charge of this government against what the people have chosen?
The people chose Ken Paxton in the most recent election.
That election was a nasty fight.
I mean, there was a ton of money in that fight.
And he had opponents.
And they talked about all of these allegations and rumors and innuendo and all of this.
But at the core of it, at the base of it, was that Paxton had investigated a business deal where there was alleged political corruption by the FBI and political corruption by the Department of Public Safety, the Texas Rangers.
And everybody thinks Walker, Texas Ranger, but this is essentially the Texas FBI.
And so, you know, that's at the core of it.
And I've basically said, look, this is what happens when you go after the FBI, when you investigate the people who see themselves as the investigators, when you investigate the people who think they're in charge.
And so it is this choice.
It's this political choice in the Texas Senate.
Thirty-one senators are going to go in there and they have a number of ways to resolve this, but ultimately they're going to make a choice and say, OK, this has been dumped on our lap.
And are we going to remove the elected attorney general who the voters approved, you know, knowing all of these, you know, all of this context and all of the things that have gone on, are we going to remove this attorney general or are we going to respect the will of the voters?
Are the voters in charge or is somebody else in charge of this state?
So that's the choice.
Now, procedurally, This thing started in the Texas house.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Tony, hang on.
We're going to take a... I got off of my rant and went on a little too long, so we're going to go to commercial break.
I'm going to bring you back.
And of course, we've got the great Jonathan Stickland is going to join us and many other people involved in this in Texas.
Like I said, I want everybody to understand.
What's happening in Texas is a manifestation of what's happening in this country.
It's important for the state of Texas.
It's important for our movement.
But it's also important for this republic.
Short commercial break.
We're going to be in our war room special.
The trial at Ken Paxton next.
unidentified
Get thee behind me Satan for I command it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Get thee behind me Satan for I command it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
I looked into the mirror and I couldn't see myself.
The demons that were in me had turned me wrongside out.
I knew inside my soul I was headed straight for hell.
But I couldn't for my life figure out how to help myself.
And I said, get thee behind me, sin, for I commanded him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Get thee behind me, sin, for I commanded him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
The moon and stars were hidden by the shroud that clouded round.
I could see my loved ones weeping as they lured me in the ground.
No words were spoken over me.
I almost thought I died.
Then I knew I was saved.
Okay, Tony, so you're going to walk us through procedurally.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Walk our audience through so our audience likes the details and likes to be smart.
Walk through procedurally what's going to happen here.
unidentified
Sure, yeah.
So, you know, this all started in the Texas House of Representatives.
The Texas House of Representatives is given the power to impeach.
And then the question is, OK, are you going to convict or remove Attorney General Paxton?
So the initial kind of charging action is in the House, and then the 31 senators vote on whether to affirm that, same as you see in Washington, D.C.
or elsewhere.
It started in the Texas House, secret hearings.
In a secret committee, you ask, how does this happen in Texas?
Well, effectively, there's a coalition of Republicans and Democrats who dominate the Texas House.
The grassroots have made great strides over the last decade in terms of taking more control of their state government.
But they don't have control, right?
So you have this House that you know, is contrary to them and works against them.
So it comes out of the Texas House in this Democrat-Republican coalition, many, many Republican dissenters to it, goes over to the Senate.
What's going to start off here with this trial in the Senate, the senators have to make a choice on a whole host of motions.
So there's motion practice, just like any trial, just like any trial I would go represent a client in.
You have motion practice, like motions for summary judgment, motions to dismiss, motions to dismiss certain articles of the impeachment, that sort of thing.
And these senators are going to have that choice.
The reality is, the pleadings that you've seen from the House, I mean, The pleadings from the House would make a Soviet show trial prosecutor blush.
It's just this bluster.
It's a tell-a-story, but it's not really legalistic.
They even come in at one point and they're like, oh, you have to go to trial because he knows what he did.
It's like you would never see this kind of garbage in a real court.
But you're seeing it here because it is a political trial with 31 political actors.
So these senators have to make a choice.
Are they going to move forward with this trial at all?
They could dismiss it up front.
And I think that is, quite frankly, the correct legal thing to do.
But if they allow the trial to go on, you're going to see a trial that will last, I would say it's going to look maybe 100 hours, I think, per side.
So you're talking a couple of weeks, two or three weeks.
of evidence with witnesses and back and forth and cross-examination.
And then ultimately, again, the senators will make their choice.
So it is complicated.
There's plenty of procedure.
But ultimately, it's the senators have to make a choice.
Are they going to accept this action by the House that was done in secret and dumped on their lap at the last minute on Memorial Day weekend?
Or are they going to move forward and evaluate?
Or are they going to kick it back and reject it, which is a clear legal choice?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I think what people are shocked in what you're saying, and I want to make sure people around the country understand this, is that because people look to Texas as kind of the...
When you say there's a coalition between Democrats and Republicans, are these establishment Republicans?
Is this the reason that nothing seems to happen with the invasion of the southern border?
I mean, people are kind of shocked at what's happening in Texas.
It looks like the political class is not taking any action, but when you say that there's actually a combination of Democrats and Republicans that kind of had this almost Stalinist movement to impeach him in the House working together, I think people are shocked.
What is that about?
unidentified
Well, there was a great documentary put out.
One of my clients put out a documentary recently called The Texas Heist, and they described it as a heist.
It's a group of Republicans.
Who, for their own personal interest, are working with the Democrats to put themselves in power and to put the Democrats in a position of power.
And, you know, you go ask people in the Republican grassroots, you go ask, I think you may hear from Matt Rinaldi, who's the party chair, great party chair, grassroots guy.
He says, Ed, do the Democrats run the Texas House?
Yeah, the Democrats run the Texas House.
You know, conservatives certainly don't run the Texas House.
And so, while it is true, Texas is a bastion for MAGA.
Texas is a bastion for freedom in this country.
The Republican grassroots in Texas are amazing people.
And they have a heck of a voice.
They've got their guy as attorney general.
They have other elected officials in the state who are good people, who have gotten elected to significant roles.
But they're not in unilateral control of the state, by no means.
You have still these vestiges of power that date back to the time when this was a 100% Democrat state and the Republicans met in a phone booth.
So that's how it happens.
It's simple coalition politics in the Texas House.
This establishment Republican group has controlled that, and they have controlled it for more than a decade now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Can you, before you go, I want to go back to this original investigation you said that triggered all this, that there's an investigation of the Texas DPS, which most people would think would be the Texas Rangers, but you said they really have turned into the Texas FBI.
Can you just give us some details?
What was Paxson investigating and why was the Republican establishment so upset about that?
That's what the Attorney General is supposed to do, isn't he?
unidentified
Yeah, well, so there's, and the details are kind of Obscure to some degree, but it's what happened in that.
The impeachment is premised entirely on this idea that this nonprofit foundation that invested in some business real estate deals in Austin was in the right, and the guy that they invested in was bad guy.
That's the premise of the whole thing.
But there's a whole alternative premise, and there's really interesting facts on that.
They're in the file.
They just don't get highlighted, where you have potential serious corruption by the FBI and by Texas DPS, Texas Rangers, which is basically the Texas FBI, coming in to advantage people who are connected to a nonprofit to then try and basically steal real estate deals and steal money from real estate deals.
And that happens in real estate all the time.
I mean, developers have their deals stolen out from under them all the time.
It's a whole back and forth that goes on in real estate.
And so, you know, the premise is Paxton's bad because he's investigating this and he's taking the side of the one guy.
And he's not taking the side of the foundation.
But there's a lot of mixed facts there.
So when you look at it, you go, wait a second, you know, Paxton, there's no evidence Paxton Bleeby was in the wrong or wasn't in the right.
So it's going in and investigating something like that.
And the premise is that the FBI or the DPS could be bad guys.
I accept that.
I understand that that certainly can be the case.
I don't think your listeners, your viewers, understand that that can be the case.
But to the establishment, that's anathema.
No, they can never be the bad guys.
They're the good guys.
And so that's the whole premise of this impeachment, is Paxton's bad because he came in under a premise that maybe the FBI or the DPS did something wrong in this whole real estate saga.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Tony, how do people follow you on social media, and how do people get to your client's movie, The Texas Heist, because it's quite enlightening.
I think people will be shocked if they watch it.
unidentified
Yeah, so Texasscorecard.com, a lot of stuff there.
They're the publisher of The Texas Heist.
You can Google The Texas Heist, I'm sure it'll pop up.
I'm on ex-Twitter, formerly Twitter, ex.com, as tweettonymack, and so I occasionally have a few things to say, so y'all can check me out there.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We'll put it up, make sure everybody gets a ton of followers today on Twitter, formerly known as X. Tony McDonald, thank you brother for making this at least a beginning of our journey here to understand this.
Is Jonathan Stickland, our brother Stickland, up?
Jonathan, give me some context.
We've got a couple of minutes on this side of the break.
We've got some other grassroots, great grassroots leaders who are going to join us, but you've been at the tip of the spear of this fight.
What is this about?
I mean, people are kind of shocked, particularly people on the show that see Ken Paxson as the, you know, the one of the leading, if not the leading, Attorney General of challenging the Biden regime for everything they're trying to do to break the Constitution, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, it is shocking.
And it's shocking to everyday voters here in Texas, too, because, again, they overwhelmingly supported Ken Paxton.
And we've got a new poll that is coming out on Monday that we are going to be releasing.
And 94 percent of the voters that we have polled know everything that is going on.
And, overwhelmingly, they are still supporting Ken Paxton.
In fact, a mass majority, 52% of the people, want all of the charges dismissed immediately.
They don't want to go through this political theater.
They don't want to allow the establishment and the RINOs a chance to turn this into some kind of clown show.
They want the Senate to go in there.
They want them to dismiss it.
And they want Attorney General Ken Paxton back in office.
Nobody's really talking about that, Steve, but, right now, he's not in office.
So, we have the Biden administration literally running the entire show.
That office is essentially not functioning for everyday Texans.
And we have had lawsuits that are proceeding through the Supreme Court, all kinds of just day-to-day stuff that Ken Paxton was doing for us.
He is currently not.
So, mass majority of Texans want this thing to end immediately.
And the mass majority of Republican primary voters still support Ken Paxton.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Before we go to break, you've got about a minute.
I think one of the most shocking things, because we're seeing at the local level in Texas what we're seeing at the national level with Mitch McConnell and the Uniparty supporting the Biden regime, particularly on their spending, this out-of-control spending.
Is it true?
I mean, Tony laid out something that I think shocked our audience.
Is there a cabal of Democrats working with establishment Republicans that essentially control the House in Texas?
unidentified
100%.
It's funded by old Bush-era regime donors, a specific group called Texans for Lawsuit Reform.
And people need to understand that, literally, George P. Bush himself ran against Ken Paxton and got slaughtered in the last election.
The voters said, we're done with the Bushes.
We don't want this globalist agenda anymore.
We want a true conservative.
We want America First Patriot.
And these guys just won't give up.
So, we're definitely still fighting them on a daily basis.
They are funding, orchestrating, and have been pushing this thing with the help of the Democrats.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If you can just hang on for a second, Jonathan.
We're going to take a short commercial break here in the War Room.
We're going to return to the larger themes of what this actual impeachment of Ken Paxson means.
What does it mean for the nation?
And how are the grassroots?
That put Ken Paxson in against George P. Bush.
What are they doing in this fight?
This is a microcosm of the fight to save this republic.
Where is it taking place?
In the Republic of Texas.
Back in a moment, to the Longhorn State.
unidentified
War Room.
When there's no more, let's take down the CCD!
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Thanks for joining us.
I want to talk about what you're doing down there.
You've helped us organize this also, this special, The Trial of Ken Paxton, because it's going to be up on us when we come back from the holiday weekend.
It kind of starts with the motions.
I'll start on, I guess, on Tuesday.
Go back, I just want you to hit rewind, make sure the audience understands this.
The next, since Jeb didn't work out, The next in the lineage of the next, the third generation Bush presidency was going to be George P. Bush.
That's where all the hopes of the family rested.
And he got absolutely blown out of the water with the entire Bush apparatus in Texas got blown out of the water by the grassroots movement, the Trump movement, MAGA, populist nationalists that said, no, we want a Ken Paxson.
We don't want this globalist thing to continue.
Was the bad blood there?
Is that what started?
Did they say, hey, you may have beat us the first time with this kid, but we're going to come and get you anyway?
Is that where this thing started?
unidentified
Yeah, it definitely started there.
This goes back even further.
When Ken was in the Texas House fighting against the rhino establishment, there had been, you know, kind of the end of the political kingdom of the Bush regime here in the Texas legislature.
And frankly, since Ken started his public service, he's been going after the rhinos and pulling the Overton window.
To the conservatives and to the grassroots.
They don't like that.
It definitely escalated when he went head-to-head with the chosen one, George P. Bush.
We saw an incredible amount of money pour in from Florida and, you know, the old Bush havens of support around the country, the globalists.
They understood that our entire political dynasty is on the ballot.
And here in Texas, Every single voter knew that, too.
It's like the empire trying to strike back here and maintain that one little bit of power that they had, and they got crushed.
The money didn't matter, the tens of millions of dollars, the establishment media firing every shot they had.
Again, everybody knew about this stuff with Ken Paxton, these allegations that they're trying to turn into something that it's not.
This was broadcast to every single Texan, and it was Bush family against America first.
And I think they got 22% of the vote, the Bushes.
So I think their feelings got hurt.
All of their plans, the entire dynasty has started to crumble.
And the only way that they had to get back in was the sham impeachment, where it only mattered what a handful of turncoat Republicans in the Democrat Party thought about it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
When people, particularly conservatives or Republicans, that watch Fox, they see Karl Roval all the time.
He's one of the consiglieres to the Bush apparatus.
I think when people that are not in Texas, they assume that the Bushes are still the politically dominant force down there.
And we've had a lot of grassroots people, and I think our audience is pretty savvy on it, but how does the boy, if the kid only got 22%, go back to what Tony McDonald said.
Walk me through how they control the House in a cabal of Democrats.
I mean, how could that possibly work that a little group of elitists Well, certainly Texans would agree with that.
We're a very proud people.
But they still control things through money.
And the establishment institutions, some of the think tanks, that's where their power is.
I could make an argument that Texas, even more than California, is the single most important state in this union, sir.
unidentified
Well, certainly Texans would agree with that. We're a very proud people.
But they still control things through money and the establishment institutions, some of the think tanks.
That's where their power is. But they can't win an election, Steve.
They keep going with this open borders policy and this one size fits all approach to public education.
and all the different establishment things that they've been doing.
They want open borders.
These are the same group of people that gave in-state college tuition to illegals, turned on all the magnets that have created the problem down at the border, which everyday Texans are dealing with on a regular basis.
They cannot win an election.
So they have to play a different game.
They play an insider game.
And what we've seen over the last couple of years is they've actually started to throw some of their political power and definitely their money towards the Democrat Party.
Because that's where they find the easiest allies.
So in the Texas House, you've got 115 members of the legislature.
So your magic number is 76.
When you start off with a group of Democrats in the 60s, then you're only talking about needing a dozen turncoat Republicans who want to be on the winning side, okay?
And so that's where the math starts.
That's what conservatives have been fighting against.
You know, you just get a couple of people like John Cornyn, old Bush regime, and all of a sudden they've got a governing majority.
That is how we have gotten a very middle-of-the-road speaker in Dade Phelan, not an America first guy, not a conservative, handing out literal chairmanships of important committees to sitting Democrats in the legislature.
So imagine you are in red state Texas, home of the MAGA movement, love Donald Trump, and we have Democrat chairman in the Texas House of Representatives.
It's come from this governing coalition of the Democrats in the Bush regime fighting against the people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
See, this is something I think that people are even more shocked, but I want to get down to it.
They can't figure out, they understand what the Biden regime is trying to do with our sovereignty, destroy our sovereignty.
What nobody could figure out is why Texas authorities have been so slow to move.
Are you saying that the Bush apparatus, these globalists in their control of Texas, they've been open borders also?
unidentified
100%.
I don't think you can come to any other conclusion because you look at the policies that they have been doing.
We still don't have mandatory e-verify.
We're still giving out taxpayer-funded benefits to illegals everywhere.
The cost on our county hospitals, where you can go and get free health care as an illegal, billions of dollars has been funneled into this system and funding this activity, which Breeds a situation where people feel like they're welcome.
They're coming over here.
They've got a welcoming committee with Biden's border patrol down there.
And then Texas has set up all these different institutions where you can make it happen as an illegal.
And what it has done is, you know, obviously destroyed our border, destroyed our sovereignty, and it's hurting everyday Texans.
It's completely distorted our markets.
Crime has gone up.
You just go down the list.
And I don't think that anybody who is honestly looking at it can say they're anything other than globalists who want no real border, because that's the policies that they've been pushing.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Jonathan, I'm going to ask you to stick around if you wouldn't mind, at least for a few minutes.
I want to bring in now two grassroots leaders, Fran Rose and Julie McCarty.
Join us from True Texas.
I'll start with Fran.
Fran, give me the grassroots perspective on what's happening down there because a lot of information, I think it's one of the Because there's a whole raft of conservatives and grassroots leaders and MAGA people that have been very confused about what in the hell is wrong with Texas, given it's basically the foundational element of the MAGA movement.
So from a grassroots perspective, what's going on?
unidentified
Well, Steve, we have just never seen the grassroots as fired up and as angry about anything as they are about the impeachment of Ken Paxton.
Whether you love him or hate him, we are up in arms about the process.
It was rushed.
It was done in secret.
Basic rules of law were not followed.
And it basically feels like a total sham and I personally am very concerned about what it's going to mean for our future if this impeachment goes forward.
If they can do this to Ken Paxton without any evidence, without any sworn witnesses, then They'll do it to anybody that is on the other side.
Who's going to be next?
Is it going to be Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick?
Maybe it's going to be Sid Miller.
I don't know.
But it puts us at a huge risk, and the grassroots here are really mad.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Fran, take a second before I go to Julie.
Take a second, just go back to what you said, that they brought up all these false charges, this kind of came out of nowhere.
Walk us through, I mean, what was the process for that?
And how did this catch people?
I remember, I think it was over Memorial Day weekend, it kind of looked like it came out of nowhere.
How were they able to pull that off?
unidentified
Well, I think they pulled it off because it was all started in secret.
The General Investigating Committee is the one that held the initial investigations, and it was all done in secret, without the knowledge of the other members of the House.
The public was not informed.
So, they did this investigation where they did not swear in witnesses.
The only people they talked to were the investigators themselves.
So, any evidence that they're presenting is actually hearsay.
There's no fact-based evidence there.
Then they presented this report to the members of the House on Labor Day weekend, gave them 48 hours to read the report, make a decision, and then they were calling for the vote.
There was a lot of pressure applied to many of these people who resisted pressure by leadership.
And, you know, thank goodness some of them did push back, but not enough to win the day.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
By the way, I think that was Memorial Day weekend.
This is Labor Day.
The trial's going to start, but I think it was Memorial Day when the House came back.
Julie McCarty, your perspective on all this as a grassroots leader, ma'am.
unidentified
Absolutely.
We've been doing this True Texas Project for 14 years, so it's not our first rodeo.
We've been fighting the establishment GOP for years, and we're always telling them, fight harder, fight harder.
Look how dirty the Democrats play, and we just take it.
time and time again, and I know everybody across the nation has their own stories about their own states doing these things.
And now finally, you know, the GOP is actually doing something that the Democrats tend to do except they're doing it against our own people.
It makes no sense.
So yeah, the grassroots are madder than they've ever been.
And I think what the GOP expected was that, as usual, people will get mad and then there'll be another news cycle and they'll forget about it and they can just skate right through.
But we've got our list of the dirty dozen.
We've got candidates who are running against them.
We've got billboards across the state.
People are mad.
We're showing up in Austin when they start the trials.
I mean, any grassroots that are listening to this, I would just say, you've got to keep that passion, you've got to stay mad, you've got to get involved, you've got to contact your senator and tell him, absolutely not, this is not okay, and I will work against you if you continue to sham.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And look, I want to hold you guys through the break, and Jonathan Stickland, I'm going to come back and ask some of the polling, just before we go to break.
You defeated, the grassroots defeated, and I think there was $41 million of negative ads against Ken Paxson in the election.
You guys defeated the chosen one, George P. Bush, I think only got a third of the vote, or 25% of the vote.
Is the, even if you win the votes, the establishment is still going to come after you with lawfare?
Is that what people, is that what the grassroots or conservatives of the MAGA movement in Texas have to just come to grips with?
That they're going to, any means necessary to destroy the populist movement, ma'am?
unidentified
I think absolutely.
And that's something that we never should quit paying attention to.
They're always going to come after us.
You have to always constantly be fighting for your liberties.
Even when this trial is over, there will be something else.
We have to stay engaged.
That's why True Texas Project is here.
That's why we've been here for 14 years and we're not going away.
Because somebody has to hold these people accountable.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Where do they go?
Before we go to break, I want you guys to hold, but where do they go?
Where do people go right now to find out more about True Texas, the True Texas Project?
unidentified
TrueTexasProject.com.
We've got links to all of our social media.
We've got tons of information, videos.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Fantastic.
Okay, we're going to keep these two grassroots leaders going to stick with us.
Johnson Stickland is going to come back in.
He's got a poll that's going to be released on Labor Day.
He's got some pretty shocking results in it.
We're going to get to all of that.
Short commercial break.
Back in the Worm on our special, The Trial of Ken Paxton.
We'll be back in a moment.
unidentified
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We rejoice when there's no more!
Let's take down the CCP!
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, welcome back.
This is our Saturday special.
We're dealing with this trial that's going to start next week, I guess, in the state of Texas about Ken Paxson, who's one of the biggest members of the conservative movement throughout the country.
It's really extraordinary what's going on there.
Jonathan Stickland, can you come back?
You guys have done some polling, and you should tell what your group is.
You guys have done this polling.
The polling's going to be out on Monday, Labor Day.
Who's your group?
What have you guys been doing to organize to defend Paxton?
And then tell me about the polling.
unidentified
Yeah, we've got a political action committee called Defend Texas Liberty.
We're one of the biggest spenders.
We consider ourselves the counterweight to the establishment and the Bush regime in elections.
Again, with this Paxton trial being one of the biggest things.
facing the state and really the country right now on the way whether this is going to be allowed to happen or not.
We're spending a bunch of money. And so we will be releasing polls in a lot of these senators' districts, ones that we are worried might be tempted to side with the Democrats for their own political gain. And so we have got a bunch of stuff that will be coming out on Labor Day.
One of the interesting things that we saw in the polling is that 59 percent of the Republican voters still approve of Ken Paxton, even after all of this stuff that has been going on.
So if you don't live in Texas, you need to know that the establishment media, the fake news out there, the traditional media have been pounding this stuff.
Impeachment, criminal, all these buzzwords throwing an incredible amount of negative press onto Ken Paxton.
And even despite that, the Republican Party voters still want him in there.
In fact, 52 percent of them don't want there to even be a trial.
They want the Senate to convene, and they want the entire thing dismissed immediately.
The other interesting thing in this poll is that we found that, if Ken Paxton is impeached, OK, so if the Bushes get what they want, and they take out Ken Paxton, Then, Ken Paxton comes back and runs against John Cornyn in the Senate.
He's beating him by 14 points.
After the worst case scenario.
Just to give you an idea of where the voters are and how sick of this they are.
They want Ken Paxton.
They'll rehire him for any position that he wants after this is done, which is why they want this impeachment to go all the way through to disqualify him from running.
Because even today, after all of this, Ken Paxton is still wanted by Texas Republican voters.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, so this is on top of, I think you told me the other day on the show, there was $41 million of negative ads taken out against Paxton in the primary and the general, and he still won.
He blew away the field in the primary and then won the general by double digits, I think.
And this, in addition to all the media now, is all about crucifying Ken Paxton, yet the polling shows that Republican voters overwhelmingly support him.
unidentified
59% approve of the job.
I mean, like, total approval.
And, uh, it is a very small numbers.
I mean, it literally tracks with what George P. Bush got in the last election, which was like a twenties, low twenties.
Um, those people still don't like him, but they have not grown their support.
It is not moving.
Uh, people know this as a political witch hunt and they're not for it.
And I, I just want to, I want to, uh, Yeah.
I just want to throw this out.
The polling that we're going to be coming out with are in specific districts.
And so we are absolutely dedicated to let these politicians know before they take that vote that there is going to be heck to pay if they defy their voters and try and steal their vote.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So hang on for a second, Jonathan.
Fran, do you get that also, even at the district?
Is the grassroots savvy here?
Even with all the negative ads and all the media coverage being, you know, get rid of Ken Paxson, he's a bad guy.
Do the grassroots get the joke on Paxson, he's their guy?
unidentified
They absolutely do, Steve.
True Texas Project has 18 active groups all around the state.
So we have monthly meetings in every one of those locations.
And the grassroots activists there are so focused on replacing anybody who voted for impeachment.
Come the primaries, we've got a lot of things in place to try to help with that.
But the voters are going to come out and defeat those House representatives that voted for impeachment.
Because the voters still want Ken Paxson.
He's a fighter.
He's been defending conservative grassroots principles at every level.
And the people know that.
They want him out there fighting.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Julie McCarty, where can people go to find out, particularly folks in the great state of Texas, because you guys are the tip of the spear in this fight.
Where do they go to find out all the information about you guys, what you're up to, and what you're going to do during this trial to try to combat this?
unidentified
Okay, so we have our website.
We've got articles under the news link about the whole Paxton situation.
We are taking people, like Fran said, on the 5th to Austin.
We've got caravans coming from literally all around the state to meet us up there.
We're on all the social media.
We're always talking about this.
This is the hottest topic in Texas.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
That's my last question.
Is this the topic in the grassroots community in Texas?
unidentified
100%.
We've got elections we should be focusing on.
You know, the March primary, we should be focusing on those candidates, but we're distracted with this impeachment sham.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Julie McCarty, Fran Rhodes from True Texas Project.
Thank you very much for joining us.
Okay, thank you.
Fantastic.
Julie McCarty just gave you what it is, this opportunity cost.
Instead of focus on what we need to focus on, on 2024, we're diverted by this, by the elites.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Billy Joe Shaver, John Anderson, get thee behind me, Satan, for a reprise here.
Short commercial break.
The head of the Texas GOP, Matt Rinaldi and Jonathan Stickland, will join us on the other side of the break.
unidentified
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