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steve bannon
Peace.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room, Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, thanks.
Welcome back for the second hour of our late afternoon and early evening show, Wednesday, 9 August, Year of the Lord 2023, the 78th anniversary or commemoration of Nagasaki.
As we talked about in the last hour, one thing that concerns us here at the War Room is we have this unrestricted warfare by the Chinese Communist Party.
That's all over the United States remember they've declared war on us starting back in May I think it was she declared a people's war back in May of 2019 when they decided to decouple from certain technologies particularly social media Technology thought the social media guys might have too much power of them.
They wanted to do it themselves for total social control Now we are hurtling towards a kinetic war in the South China Sea, the Straits of Taiwan, and the island of Taiwan.
And if you don't think we have a moral obligation, which I understand a lot of people don't, I can understand that.
Just the feasibility right now, Taiwan makes essentially the world's supply of advanced chips.
It's not easy.
You cannot just move those factories.
If the Chinese Communist Party takes it, they control 25, 30, 40% of the American economy right off the bat.
I want to get into that in the geopolitics of what's happening in Ukraine.
We've got a lot of analysis, some populist movements in Italy.
We're going to get to some populist moves finally by Maloney in Italy.
We're going to get to all that with Ben Harnawal, but I want to go back.
Dr. Sean Rowland.
Dr. Rowland, I didn't have time this morning What I'm so enthusiastic about Jace Medical is how you guys have taken Rosemary Gibson's warning to America about the CCP's control of generic drugs, the manufacturing of those, and the control particularly of API, the active pharmaceutical ingredients that goes in everything, including vitamin C, which I think they control 100% of that, and how they would use that as strategic leverage over us, and we really never got the lesson.
You're the first one to take action.
But you've actually gone and drilled down even more on it.
And I want to talk about the threat of cyber attacks on our hospitals, sir.
dr shawn rowland
Yeah, you bring up, I mean, those are all really the main reason why we started this company to begin with was recognizing the existential threat that exists when it comes to our supply chain, being wholly dependent on this overseas production, really out of China.
Uh, and you know, there's no, the list is long of, of reasons why, uh, everyone should be concerned about this.
Uh, you know, we've been talking a lot lately about just this, the, the, the building pressure with all that's going on geopolitically with China, um, and other countries.
Uh, you know, just last week, this was actually, um, Thursday, Friday, it was reported, uh, the cyber attacks.
These are, These are the healthcare industry actually turns out is the number one industry that's targeted with these cyber attacks.
And we're starting to see them more frequently and they're having larger impacts.
The latest shutdown hospitals that shut down primary care clinics.
We're so dependent now on computers with healthcare from everything from your encounter with your physician to the prescription that gets sent to a pharmacy.
So it's just one more link in that chain.
That has been disrupted and will continue to be disrupted.
This affected multiple states around the country, and it's just one of many things we can talk about, right?
As far as reasons why people need to wake up and do something to protect themselves.
Now, there's a lot more that goes into being prepared than just what we do, but this is our focus.
steve bannon
Our focus is prescription medications, Yeah, but here's the thing, and we have a lot of, you know, we have MyPatriotSupply and some of these great companies that get you prepared and make sure that you're ahead of the game.
But if you don't have your medicine, and the Chinese know this, They understand this.
Look, they're making a ton of money.
It's primarily economic, but it's just like in the PPE during the early months of the pandemic.
They use that strategically as a weapon.
Every aspect of life, of the economy, of culture, of civilization, Whatever they will use to their strategic advantage.
That's why the unrestricted warfare, the unrestricted warfare manual is theirs.
And they said, look, we never want to fight the foreign devils kinetically because they do know how to fight and they got incredible weapon systems.
So what we want to do is political warfare, information warfare, cyber warfare, political warfare, those five, four or five areas of warfare.
We want to be aggressive and we want to be on the offense.
When you just said cyber attacks in hospitals, the number one cyber attacks, explain that for a second.
Give me a minute on that because I think most people are gonna find that shocking.
They would think it'd be on our financial system or on, uh, on our grid.
dr shawn rowland
Yeah.
Right.
Well, you know, a lot of these, uh, cyber attacks are, are, uh, financially motivated and we've been told, uh, that some of the largest, uh, actors out there Are come from the state-sponsored groups being Russia, China and some others.
And principally they are looking for these are these they're holding these places for ransom.
They get your protected health information.
It's it's this is a rich place to go looking for people who are willing to pay to get to get that information back.
And so yeah, so health care systems are are a prime target just for just for financial reasons, but I think you touched on it when you mentioned these other, these strategic ways of unrestricted warfare with China.
You know, it is the ace up their sleeve.
Right now, they're making all this money because they produce all these medications that the world is dependent on.
You brought up the PPE during COVID, and that's a great example.
It wasn't just us that came holding our hand out, asking for this PPE from China.
It was global, and we were just standing in line with everyone else.
Imagine that situation with life-saving medications that our country The world is dependent on.
We're going to be in line the same way, uh, as everyone else is.
And these cyber attacks, um, you know, right now.
I get trying to get people to, to come to the, to the website, to go through the process, to get prepared.
That's, that's why I do this.
That's, that's what I'm trying to, we're trying to get the word out.
And so we're trying to, it's just trying to point out to people.
These are things that are happening right now.
These cyber attacks are happening right now.
And if you think that it's just going to stop with one or two because it'll be handled by the government, because they are out there trying to protect us, it's not.
Things are getting worse, and they'll continue to get worse.
It's not an if, it's a when, and it's not even a when.
It is happening now.
steve bannon
It's a hundred percent.
And by the way, as we get closer to the kinetic, the cyber attacks on the grid, on the hospitals, on the medical system, on everything is going to be the leading edges.
This is what we had the, we talked about a couple of weeks ago, big, big, a huge piece in the wall street journal where they said, Hey, we understand that we may be on the path of third world war, but between cyber and bio weapons, it might be over before it starts.
So Jace Medical, where do people go?
I, the one thing I love about your site, you immerse people in information on this.
So where do they go to find out more?
dr shawn rowland
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
It's J-A-S-E, JaceMedical.com.
You'll see on there we've got a lot of information about the process.
If you're new to telemedicine, it is a telemedicine process.
You do need to enter some basic health information.
It is reviewed by a physician.
Uh, so if you're new to that process, we'll walk you through before you go through it, you'll see what you have to do.
Uh, we've tried to make it as easy and as accessible as possible.
Uh, it really couldn't be any easier than sitting, sitting in the comfort of your home, not having to make, uh, appointments go through, you know, this whole long process.
Instead you sit down, you go to the website.
Uh, there's, there's, uh, we've got articles if, if you're interested in, in all the reasons why we do this, answer any of your questions.
But the process itself takes about 10 minutes and within a few days you'll have these medications shipped to your door.
steve bannon
Yeah, I'm a huge believer of the telemedicine.
Thanks for doing this.
Thanks for taking the warning of Rosemary Gibson and the War Room to heart and taking action on it.
That's what we love.
Dr. Sean, fantastic, great work.
dr shawn rowland
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you for the opportunity to get the word out.
steve bannon
Why are you doing it on this cyber?
I got to make sure, um, you're, you're manning the ramparts as you saw from the morning show.
If, if this war room posse can't, uh, organize and help weaponize the counter to what's happening with this billions of dollars being spent by these, uh, offshore billionaires.
You saw this in Ohio.
You're going to see it all over.
Um, the last thing we can have is to have you under financial duress.
The easiest way to do that since 90%.
of your net worth is tied up in your home is to have somebody go in, a cyber criminal or even a state actor, go in, take your title on a cyber attack, go to a hard money lender, get a $200,000 second on your home, right?
And then all of a sudden you've got the hard money lender.
And by the way, the hard money lender at the high rates, when you go to them, they're going to say, hey, tough break for a swell guy or gal.
We closed the deal.
Somebody got the money.
We don't have it.
You're going to pay it back because it's on your home.
If not, we'll take your home.
So go to htl.com.
HomeTitleLock.com.
Go there today.
Check it out.
We cannot have you exposed.
We need you at the ramparts.
We can't have you worrying about paying off some hard money lender.
Ben, I'm going to take this a little bit in different order than we talked about.
What I want to do is talk about Maloney has stood up to the Chinese Communist Party and it's kind of shocked people.
Remember, when we talk about the impeachment of Biden and this situation with CEFC, they're the capital markets allocator for One Belt One Road.
Georgia Maloney, when she came over here to the United States, it wasn't a great trip as far as the MAGA faithful and the people that love her go.
Because she did kind of embrace the situation in Ukraine.
She did embrace the Biden regime's policies on that.
But then she went back and she shocked people by essentially telling the Chinese Communist Party, the CCP, to pack up and go home.
And remember, Venice Not just historically being the launching point for Marco Polo, but such a key strategic port in Europe was going to be the railhead of a lot of the One Belt One Road.
Walk me through, what got Giorgio Maloney, how's this played in Italy?
First off, because a couple of years ago, remember we had the policy sonar guy on here who wrote the book, hasn't been translated?
Outside of Italian, but he wrote a book about how the Chinese Communist Party with their deals with the Vatican with their deals with the corrupt you know a Political class in Italy and particularly some of the companies that wanted to play Patsy in and talking about PPE Even if you look at the best case, which was never Navarro's.
Hey, they didn't let off on purpose accidental, but then they exacerbated it Northern Italy was one of the worst aspects of that.
And on the PPE, it was the Italians that they gave the hardest time to until they bled out some PPE to help Italy when he had such a problem with the pandemic.
So how did Maloney sit there and say, China, there's the exit, head out?
ben harnwell
Well, Steve, it's an interesting question.
And I have to say that Italians are looking at this with a certain degree of scepticism because the lens that they're looking at it through is really that the present foreign policy issue of the day has been for a year and a half, which is Ukraine.
And the fact that I think we first reported this on the war in like 12 months ago, that the government's support behind Ukraine, even under the previous administration of Mario Draghi, the former president of the European Central Bank, that support, full support of President Zelensky and Ukraine did not have a majority of Italian support.
It was below 50 percent even 12 months ago.
And the situation In that regard, it has only deteriorated so.
The current withdrawal from One Belt, One Road is seen in that because the perception here in Italy is that when Italy signed up to One Belt, One Road, that was under Giuseppe Conti, the former five-star prime minister, and that was very much an idea.
The intention there was to try to separate Italy ever so slightly from the very, the perception of a very dominant presence felt here in Italy of the United States military industrial complex.
So it was an idea to try and buy Italy a little bit of neutrality.
It's not so much the issue of the CCP and what people—here in Italy I'm talking about the debate—it's not the same debate as what is currently taking place in the United States.
It was more perceived as an idea beforehand to try to obtain for Italy just a little bit of discretion for its own national movement, simply other than being basically a military base on a peninsula for the United States.
Now, so when Giorgio Meloni pulls out of One Belt, One Road, The perception is, and obviously if you're looking at the newspapers, whenever there are, like for example Vilnius, who was there right at the centre of the photo with Vladimir Zelensky and President Biden.
The very person at the centre of that photo was Giorgio Maloney.
That's how Italians are seeing this.
They're seeing this not so much as a fight for Italy's independence, but a manoeuvring of Italy out of the orbit of Russia-China together.
into the orbit of the military-industrial complex.
That's really how it's being seen.
So the idea that there was gonna be a popular rising of support for this, as there would be in the United States in a similar situation, isn't quite, it's not the conversations I've been having today, for example.
steve bannon
Yeah, I wanna get the geopolitics right in the politics.
There's not a bigger fan of Georgia Maloney than the War Room and Steve Bannon.
And I know, Ben, you think very, very highly of her also.
And I think one of the things that's caught us by surprise, particularly given all the revelations about Ukraine and you've got in the UK, you know, ex-Boris Johnson, it's getting a little soft.
And France is getting a little soft.
Germany, definitely soft.
And here in the United States, the American people kind of shifted away from it.
Is Maloney, and she was so kind of effusive and been effusive about this, particularly the whole trip in the United States, the only thing the media really covered, because I think it's what the Biden regime put out, was her stalwart support of the U.S.' 's effort in Ukraine.
Why is that?
Because it's just that Italy needs the money from NATO and they need the money from the EU, but she's become an anchor tenant.
Because I would say that right now you could probably argue that Italy is the foremost country in NATO that supports the Biden regime's policy.
ben harnwell
Italy and the UK.
And in fact, the UK has undergone, I would suggest, a parallel manoeuvre for broadly the same reasons.
I think when the UK was dallying with one belt, one road, it hadn't gone all the way in as far as Italy had done.
But the idea, I think, there was just to try and buy itself just a little bit of space from simply being a military extension, an island military extension.
of the military-industrial complex.
And again, America put pressure on the UK, and the UK said, actually, no, if push comes to shove, we're going to throw our lot in with the United States rather than China.
So there's the same sort of dynamic there.
I would suggest, you know, talking about Melania's visit to the White House, what was that, about Yeah, I mean, the reason is, it's because, and perception is really important when you're trying to hold an alliance, an alliance which is not exactly overflowing with popular support amongst its respective national participants.
It's because it gives a great deal of credibility for Joe Biden to sit here and say, look, here is our strong ally, Italy, and Italy is a strong ally militarily in the United States, no doubt about that, like the UK.
Here we are, here's another leader, European leader, here visiting me in the White House, and look how resolute we are, look how united we are in fighting down that evil Vladimir Putin.
And it gives a great deal of credibility, I think, to the US-led effort, that there are European partners here who are willing to toe that line.
It's not helping Melania, I don't think, domestically, not with her base.
Now, whether she's able to say, you know, you know what, I'm going to manoeuvre my party to the centre.
That's exactly what the platform that she's been since she became Prime Minister last October.
She's been moving her party from its post Fascist roots into a very much a centrist party in the Italian political context.
Now, whether her overall strategy is, well, you know, there's no one to the right of me.
So basically I can move, manoeuvre the party to the centre, expand my appeal.
I leave my right flank vulnerable, but if there's no one there to attack me, that's fine.
And, you know, I'm going to hoover up extra support on the centre and even perhaps on the left.
That might be the strategic gamble that she's playing.
It's going to be too soon to say, to know whether that works out or not.
But there is a certain logic to what she's doing, as there is a certain logic, to go back to your question, to what President Biden was doing.
And of course, the readout that they put out after that meeting, it does, it's centred on the one thing that was important to the White House, which is showing a united European front against Russia.
steve bannon
We've got a lot to go through with Ukraine.
I don't know if we have the time to fully develop it, including the Chris Christie aspect of it and others.
And I think what we're going to do is hold that for tomorrow because my favorite paper in the world, the Financial Times of London, has actually a jaw-dropping story today that you highlighted to me.
And I don't know if we can get it up on screen, but Ben, tell me about this.
The Financial Times of London, what are they reporting?
Something that you and I are very close to, but now it's reached the most important financial paper.
The Wall Street Journal for the World has got an in-depth report on this.
What's going on?
ben harnwell
So this is headlined, A New Catholic Counter-Revolution is underway in Europe.
And this is exactly not the type of article that you would expect to see in the Financial Times.
And it's very well written.
There are a couple of bum notes that don't quite sound right.
But obviously, because it's not being written by someone from within the traditionalist movement.
But it's very interesting that this is now taking, an article taking up cover space.
page space in the most sedate of financial newspapers.
So its starting point is the World Youth Day which has been taking place in Portugal which is a huge jamboree of Catholic youth which get together every two or three years.
It's been going on since 1986 when John Paul II launched the first one in Rome.
steve bannon
Under John Paul II, this was drawing millions of people.
I mean, they had one in Denver, Colorado.
I mean, this was a massive youth movement under John Paul.
But my point is, it's quite a big movement.
It's not some small marginal thing.
ben harnwell
No, this is absolutely the event on the calendar for the Olympics, if you will, as a jamboree, I suppose, would be the correct word, for Catholic youth to pray, to build fellowship with other young Catholics from other nations.
It sparks a lot of vocations and has done since its beginning.
A lot of young priests, a lot of young monks, a lot of young nuns will say, quite a lot will say that they discovered their vocation at a World Youth Day.
It's a spiritual event.
It was founded by John Paul II as a spiritual renewal event.
Obviously under everybody's favorite Pope Francis, Pope Francis.
It's less and less of a spiritual event and more of a political event.
And the numbers reflect this.
You're talking about the millions of people who turned out.
So here, according to the FT's figures, there were, of the 354,000 pilgrims that were from France, 42, excuse me, of the 354,000 pilgrims that were there, 42,000 were from France.
And here is a key passage that I'd like to read out now, just to set the context before I do this.
The traditionalist movement in the Catholic Church was really founded as a response against, as a reaction against the Second Vatican Council, which is a huge, huge, defining ecclesiastical event in five centuries for the Catholic Church.
It took place between 1962 and 65, and all the bishops of the world came and participated in that.
And that's really when the Catholic Church, the traditionalist Catholics, that's really when it started to go pear-shaped.
And any graph that you look at, any graph, whether it's to do with vocations, mass attendance, belief in the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist, any of these, the metrics, they all go down.
They're all going down.
And it's been an absolute disaster and a tragedy.
However, the reaction against the Second Vatican Council was led by an archbishop, a French archbishop, called Marcel Lefebvre, and his followers, who were eventually…he and his priestly society, they were excommunicated.
He was French, right?
This is the point I'm getting to.
The traditionist movement, in as far as it really exists in the world, is still largely based in France.
Most of the Lefebvre's priests are French.
That's where the mass, the majority of mass goes on.
It's in France.
This is very important to the point that I'm going to get to.
But here I'm going to read a very, very interesting paragraph here from the FT.
While church attendance in France continues to scrape along at levels that are a tiny fraction of those seen in the 1950s, which is absolutely true, the poll suggests that young French Catholics today are highly observant and favour the most traditional forms of ritual, including the Latin mass.
And according to the political scientist Yann Razan de Clouseau, this group, which wields an influence out of all proportion to its size, And I might repeat that.
I might repeat that phrase later.
Thanks to social media and other network effects is at the heart of the re-emergence of conservative Catholicism as a political as well as religious force.
That is a very, very perceptive, well-written and entirely accurate statement and I'm surprised but delighted to find that in the mainstream press because it really ties in the relationship.
You know, Steve, you've been saying for years How a culture is upstream from politics.
This paragraph, that is that statement in full.
Because the relationship in France, whereas there are, and the article lists the relationship between traditionalist Catholics here with Fratelli d'Italia in Italy and with Vox in Spain, whilst there is a relationship there, It's far more symbiotic and running both ways in France.
The traditionalist movement in France, you have traditionalist politicians who go to the Old Mass, they go to traditionalist events, they go on the marches, and there's an interface between these two movements.
unidentified
I would say it's ever more slightly the case that right-wing parties— Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, hang on for one second.
steve bannon
We're going to finish this.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We have Dr. Miriam Grossman and Brandon Showalter on deck.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
unidentified
Craig Benharn was going to join us on the other side.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
Ben, I want to make sure we make the connection because here in the United States, just with the evangelical community, the traditional Catholics, the Latin mass Catholics, the one that the FBI field office in Richmond wrote a report is a breeding ground for domestic terrorists, for the raising of domestic terrorists.
And they did that focused on the parish that my parents, my mom and dad, who were hobbits Right.
Help found back in the 1970s in Richmond, Virginia.
How that also translates to Europe, how the traditional Catholics are tied to the populist right.
ben harnwell
There's a similarity and there's a difference.
The similarities, and to go back to this statement here, that the group of traditionalist Catholics wield an influence out of all proportion according to its size, that's true in the United States as it is true in Europe.
The difference is, in Europe, we're very much here on our own, isolated amongst by the mainstream church, very much isolated.
And we very much feel ourselves counter-cultural and against the system.
I don't quite think that's the case in the United States, and the reason is, even though you might think that on grounds of doctrine, the Gulf is huge, in terms of the key political issues, the traditionalist Catholics are very much fortified in the United States by the absolute numerical huge numbers of Bible-believing evangelicals.
That's really, strangely it might seem, that makes the ability, the presence of traditional Traditionalist Catholicism is so much stronger in the United States and not just traditionalist Catholicism, also mainstream Catholicism is very much renewed.
You know, whenever I visit the United States, whenever I'm talking or praying here in Italy with visiting American Catholics, they don't have to be traditionalists, but you can see that they're very much influenced by the presence of Bible-believing evangelical Protestantism in the United States.
And that, in a sense, this is why America is the leading force in the culture wars.
It's the reason why America, the church in America, is target number one.
It has the crosshairs.
Placed right over it by Francis that he wants to take it down because it is the principal opposition now to his agenda, his globalist, somewhat syncretical agenda.
So it's strange, it's counterintuitive, but it is a discernible reality that the real difference fighting in the cultural wars, which has ripples which carry on further outside the United States, takes place in the United States, and that takes together the very best of Catholics and the very best of Bible-believing evangelicals together.
So that's the difference between the two continents.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to have, we'll have time tomorrow to go through Ukraine because there's a lot going on there, a lot to go through, including, you know, Christy, who's always, you know, going after President Trump.
Christy has such tremendous experience and has, you know, so many amazing insights into China and all this other stuff.
He had this humiliating, embarrassing, where he basically, I guess, gave handwritten lyrics to a Bon Jovi song to Zelensky, but I want to make sure we can take our time and go through that in detail.
Ben, until then, your amazing work on Ukraine and all of it.
How do people get to you on social media?
ben harnwell
Steve, I saw the video of Chris Christie with President Zelensky and Chris Christie had in his hands the handwritten lyrics to It's My Life.
I thought for one moment he was going to snatch it up, screw it up in his mouth and eat it.
Fortunately, he resisted the temptation and he did give it over.
Folks, if you want to follow me, I'm on Getter.
I'm just typing my surname there.
Also look out for me on warroom.org.
And if you want the links to the articles that I referred to talking to Steve this afternoon, then by all means come to the video on Getter or Rumble and I'll post the articles for you there.
steve bannon
I can't believe as good a man as you are, Ben Harnwell, and lived Christianity, you came with that Trump-like hit at the end.
But we'll go into more about it, because it's actually quite serious what we know about what's happening in Ukraine.
Christie went and made such a big deal that he went and he's the only candidate to go over there.
They had the big bouquet of flowers and all that.
And now we found out the buffoonism.
And he didn't really find out.
They just spun him. They treated him like any kind of person going through there.
But so much we got to in the Ukraine. I don't want to force it in here.
We've got a lot more. We'll go through it tomorrow.
Ben Harden, well thank you so much.
ben harnwell
God bless, Steve.
steve bannon
One of the reasons we're going to do Ukraine tomorrow...
We've got, we've got, is Dr. Grossman up yet?
She's not.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
We're working on Dr. Grossman.
I found from Tony Lyons has told me that this amazing book by Dr. Miriam Grossman, which is absolutely critical in this understanding of this transgender, radical transgender ideology lost in transnation is actually being suppressed by the bookstores.
I think Barnes and Noble in particular, but I want to get Dr. Grossman up here in a minute.
As soon as we work at the technical.
But I've got the great Brandon Showater is with us on this article in the Christian Post.
Brandon, just take a minute or two and just get us up to speed on where we are in this whole battle.
Because as I've told you before, I think people are a little overwhelmed where this has kind of come out of nowhere.
And now I just saw the other day, because you've alerted me to be on the watch for these things.
I think the American Pediatric Society just came back and reiterated their stand on this.
I think what's caught most Americans by surprise, given the radical nature of this, is how so many institutions in our country seem to be on board with this.
I mean, in a minute, hopefully, when we get Dr. Grossman up, you're going to find out, like, the bookstores don't want, you know, Amazon, these people don't want Dr. Grossman's book out.
They want to suppress the information out there that's a counterargument to what they're doing.
So can you get us up to speed on where we stand with this entire ideology?
brandon m showalter
Well, yes, Steve.
And the American Academy of Pediatrics, which, you know, if you go to your doctor's visits, if parents are listening and they take their kids to see the pediatrician, they'll often hear lines like, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends.
It's recently been reported that they are, they haven't reiterated their stance yet, but it is in a huge move.
They have agreed to sort of revisit and do a review of the evidence, which as, you know, you asked for the sort of the big picture of where this ideology stands.
Europe is backpedaling.
Sweden, Finland, France, UK, state of Florida here in the United States, but they've all done reviews of the literature and they found that treating gender dysphoria, gender confusion with hormones and surgery is very low quality evidence and now they recommend psychotherapy and which is the first line of intervention if you have a gender distressed child.
But here in the United States, as I've said often, we're sort of stomping on the gas and just going full board to this ideology treating, medicalizing children who are very vulnerable, often suffering from an array of psychiatric comorbidities with a very low quality protocol.
steve bannon
Thank you for watching.
But I just want to go back and reframe that.
The evidence is the evidence, but as the rest of the world is seeing the evidence, they're backing off and saying, look, we've got to review this more and maybe we start with psychotherapy, the psychiatrist medical part of this, which Dr. Grossman is a psychiatrist, not a psychologist.
You go with that route.
And then maybe you go other routes.
But in the United States, even with the review by the American Academy of Pediatrics, it's still pedal to the metal, both the political class and the biopharma medical industry?
brandon m showalter
That's correct.
The AAP has just announced that they're going to do a review.
They haven't done it yet.
And we need to keep a very watchful eye because they are very dug in.
There have been years of pressure.
Activists have been Asking the AAP to do a review like this to no avail, but this could potentially be a sea change, but we're going to have to watch very closely because I think the ideologues are not going to let go of their grip on power of all the institutions.
The mainstream groups like the AAP, the Endocrine Society, the Pediatric Endocrine Society, they've all, endocrinologists that have been pushing back have told me that the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, WPATH, has co-opted a lot of these groups.
And they will not go down without a fight, I can tell you that.
Dr. Grossman's book outlines the fierce force that this group has on the American medical system.
Children and teenagers who are very vulnerable and mentally struggling are sent down a conveyor belt to the gender clinics these days.
A lot of this starts in the schools, but it's everywhere in culture, and even in states.
I recently heard from a mom, one state that has implemented a ban on this kind of thing for minors.
Her daughter is still able to acquire testosterone on the black market.
So this is, there's a lot of work to be done yet before we see this medical scandal face the reckoning that it deserves.
steve bannon
Brandon, hang on one second.
I think we've worked at the technical issues with Dr. Grossman.
This book is a game changer.
One, Dr. Grossman came at this with no dog in this fight.
This is all through her practice.
She's an incredibly respected psychiatrist And not some, you know, right-wing firebrand.
So, Dr. Grossman, tell me what the book is.
Everybody I know that's read it has loved it.
I've gotten tremendous feedback on this book.
But I understand from Tony Lyons that there's a suppression campaign going around, I guess at bookstores and maybe even Amazon?
unidentified
Yeah, that's right.
Steve, sorry for the delay.
There were some technical problems over here.
Thanks for having me.
I'm very angry.
I'm very angry that Barnes & Noble is basically censoring my book.
Okay, I'm a child and adolescent psychiatrist.
I've been helping families for 40 years.
I sat down and I wrote this book which is going to guide parents so that they can prevent their children from becoming dependent on pharmaceuticals for the rest of their lives.
What do I mean by that?
dependent on estrogen and testosterone.
Because you see, once these kids are placed on blockers and then cross-sex hormones, it is for the rest of their lives.
And they become a source of about, each kid, I understand, about a million dollars for the pharmaceutical companies.
So I've written a book laying out for parents what they need to understand and what they need to do.
And Barnes & Noble has effectively made it nearly impossible to get my book.
On the other hand, I went into my Barnes & Noble the other day, and after finding out that I couldn't find my book there, basically, I did find a whole pile of books for preschoolers.
Preschoolers, Steve.
Telling them, of course, that it's possible to be born in the wrong body, that you cannot tell if someone is a boy or a girl without asking them, and all the rest of it.
Totally no scientific basis for any of it.
And yet, Barnes & Noble is refusing to make my book available to parents.
A book that has tools that parents need, especially now, school is starting, okay?
I want to speak directly to parents now.
School is starting.
Depending on whatever school you're dealing with, the principal, the teacher, the guidance counselor, depending on how activist they are, your child may be in danger.
What do I mean by in danger?
And I've seen this over and over again in my office.
What that means is that kids are led to believe that their bodies may be a mistake.
They are led to believe that when they were born, or before they were born, their parents were given the wrong sex.
They are not really a boy, they are not really a girl.
And they are indoctrinated with these ideas from an early age.
Now, I'm here to explain to parents that these are, aside from being false ideas and unscientific ideas, These are destabilizing ideas to a child emotionally.
Okay, this is going to cause confusion in your child.
But there is a lot that you can do.
I provide in my book a roadmap for parents.
Parents, you need this information.
I know everyone is so busy.
Okay, but just take one hour.
One hour, less than an hour.
Read one chapter, the chapter about schools, with all the information so that you will understand what is going on in these schools.
They are placing a wedge between you and your child.
I'm giving you a heads up.
I want you to have these tools.
I walk you through what you need to do.
No other book is doing that.
And I have 40 years of experience helping families and I'm telling you that we are in a medical calamity right now.
We are in the midst of it.
In a few years when it's over, it'll be easy to look back and say, how could we ever have done that?
How could we have been teaching kids this stuff?
Now we're in the middle of it.
The trick is to realize it now and to get the information and the tools that you need before school starts.
You put the school on notice.
Okay, you parents have constitutional rights to direct the upbringing and education of your children.
You need to know your rights, and you need, I have in the book, a form that can be downloaded.
And you sign that form, you bring it to the school, and it lays out there exactly what you want and don't want for your child.
steve bannon
Dr. Grossman, I tell you what, how do people get, can they get the book on Amazon or where else can they get it?
What we're going to try to do is get you back on the morning show tomorrow because we're running out of time here.
We had a tough time getting you up.
The book, as I said, everybody I've given it to is blown away by it.
Can they go to Amazon right now or can they go to Skyhorse in order if they can't get it?
unidentified
I would say, I would say go, go to Amazon, but do it through my website because Amazon is filled with bogus books trying to trick people into buying bogus books.
So do it through my website or my Twitter, my website miriamgrossmanmd.com, my Twitter miriam underscore grossman.
Use that links so that you don't buy the wrong book.
People don't want this book to get out there.
steve bannon
No, and we're going to hopefully my producers will talk to you right after this.
I want to get you on the morning show tomorrow to give this since people are going back to school to give this warning to parents.
Dr. Grossman, thank you.
Real quickly, you say, Brandon, you've been the tip of the spear in this.
Real quickly, you're saying that members of Congress have to be held accountable in this fiasco.
What do you mean by that?
brandon m showalter
Basically, what I mean by that is that mostly the Democratic Party, which is digging their heels in at the moment, but a few craven Republicans at the state level are going to have to face the music soon.
I very much believe it.
This is one of the worst medical scandals the world has ever seen.
The July 27th congressional hearings, I think, were a watershed moment.
Chloe Cole, 19 years old on her birthday, was testifying about how she was drugged and disfigured as a minor, and the Democrats just refused to acknowledge the truth.
And so there is a reckoning coming, and As Isaiah the prophet said in Isaiah chapter 10 verse 3, what will you do on the day of reckoning when disaster comes from afar?
Where will you go for help?
To whom will you leave your riches?
Those are very apt words today for all those who are defending this barbarism, this barbaric pseudoscience against children.
And all those who have defended this are not going to be allowed to memory hole their support of this insanity because we've got receipts.
steve bannon
Brandon, my producers also talked to you.
We definitely want you on the morning show also tomorrow morning because we didn't have enough time to develop this.
This is central to what is happening in our country right now and to our culture.
Brandon, where do people go for your reporting over the Christian Post and what's your social media?
brandon m showalter
My social media is at BrandonMShow on Twitter.
Of course, all of our print reporting including my latest column is at ChristianPost.com.
And I would just say, if you want to see some of these families that have been torn apart, like Dr. Grossman was saying, go to deadnamedocumentary.com, and you'll see how families are being ripped to shreds by this ideology and this medicalization.
Deadnamedocumentary.com, small fee to watch.
It's a gut punch, but we're going to have a reckoning because of how many children, young people, and their families have been torn to shreds, and that's not hyperbole.
Deadnamedocumentary.com.
steve bannon
Brandon, you're a warrior and tip of the spear.
Honored to have you on here, brother.
brandon m showalter
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to leave you now with the Zydeco version of the Battle of New Orleans.
Remember, this is one of the most important battles in the history of our country.
It essentially ended the revolution.
What I mean by that is the British didn't give up after they lost the first time in the revolution.
They came back in the War of 1812 and General Andrew Jackson was there to stop it.
The Zydeco version.
It's got that Louisiana flavor to it of Zach's Bantan.
The great album from Zach Chandler.
Okay.
Zach Richards.
We're going to take you out with the Battle of New Orleans.
See you tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock.
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♪♪ ♪ We bought our cannons till the barrel melted down ♪
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