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July 18, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2886: Holding The Powers At Be Accountable
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richard grenell
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laura loomer
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
mike lindell
War Room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Tuesday, 18 July, Year of Our Lord 2023.
We know that President Trump has just released that he got a target letter from Jack Smith and from the J6, I guess, grand jury.
Also, a discussion.
The Hill's reporting that Kevin McCarthy and senior leadership in the conference is talking about an impeachment inquiry into Merrick Garland.
Discussion about perjury, contempt, whatever, on Chris Wray.
People are tired of that.
You just had Ralph Norman up.
We wanted Congressman Norman because he's unflappable.
A lot of that kind of common sense and grit that is the backbone of the American experience.
And particularly comes from a district of patriots and hard-working folks that just wants the government out of their business and to get on with their lives.
And when Ralph Norman, and he's one of the key players, he's too modest to say, but he's one of the key players in the House.
Freedom Croc is on the Rules Committee.
That's what people think, how highly they think of him, which is probably the most powerful committee in all the House.
He's the one that's talked the most common sense from day one about the budget.
He's a real estate guy, developer, so he understands finance and capital markets.
When someone like Ralph Norman sitting there going, hey, you know, people have had enough of this.
It's been crooked from day one.
It can just kind of cut through all the spin and the hack, you know, the hack work of the mainstream media and said, hey, we got to begin an impeachment inquiry on Biden to send a message.
Things are heating up.
This is going to be a very hot summer, whether the House goes on their appointed recess or not.
It's going to be quite intense here because people are starting to slug this out.
You saw what they did to President Trump this morning, and I called for, you know, even tougher Uh, changes to happen when President Trump takes the, uh, takes the oath of office.
And that's what morning Joe led with this morning.
Oh, this is the end of democracy.
This is total.
No, this is taking apart.
They talk about James Madison, James Madison and the founders never envisioned the Leviathan that has become the administrative state in the deep state.
They never envisioned that.
Something that's impervious to elections and now they're saying no when it when like in 16 is as Natalie Winter says they stole Trump's first presidency.
Do the nullification project that when a commander-in-chief comes in the chief executive of the government and a and the chief magistrate.
That he can't really have anything to do with the Justice Department, he can't have anything to do with the FBI, he can't sit there and form this government and start to get rid of these contractors and these bureaucrats that run it.
Can we get the Eugene Robinson?
Tell me when that clip from the cold open is ready.
When that's ready in Denver.
And by the way, I want to thank the team in Palm Beach yesterday.
And over the weekend, just an amazing, Real America's Voice was just absolutely incredible.
I want to play the Gene Robinson.
Just listen, this is the mentality we're up against.
This is the mentality.
Gene Robinson is one of the lead columnists for the Washington Post, but he's emblematic of how the imperial capital runs in the mindset.
Let's go ahead and play Eugene Robinson's clip from this morning.
unidentified
It's outrageous.
It's incredibly dangerous, not just to our system of democracy and our democratic values.
It's just dangerous because he's talking about wanting to essentially fire the people in the federal bureaucracy who know how to run things, who make the country work, who keep our air clean and our water safe, and who keep us safe in the intelligence agencies and in the defense department and everywhere he sees
somebody who doesn't toe the line, who doesn't go along with every crazy anti-democratic idea he has, he wants the ability to fire that person and replace him or her.
steve bannon
You know, I think I would bet on the folks in South Carolina Five that elected Ralph I think they make the country work.
I think the folks out in New Mexico make the country work, and in Texas, Oklahoma, Montana, Wyoming, New York, California.
Okay?
The hard-working backbone of this nation, the American people.
Their judgment, and you can tell it's coming together, you can tell from both the Robert Kennedy campaign, I'm not saying everything about his campaign, you've seen enough in his campaign, you've even seen some of it in the Cornel West campaign, and obviously Donald Trump's.
This is what was so illustrative about the Evangelical committee on Friday, when Tucker's there, he's asking questions that this audience and the audience there is fluent in the topics, is fluent in the nomenclature, understands what they're talking about.
And each, each different politician from Pence to Tim Scott, who I thought Tim Scott's a great guy, but that was a disastrous performance.
Go back and watch that.
Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley sitting there like has no idea what he's even talking about.
Laura Loomer, before I let you go, I want you to walk through the process with Fox, because they're driving this.
The donors are all over.
But remember, the donors respond to what they see on Fox.
That's what they watch.
That's why I say their viewership is empty calories.
The protein and the fight is what you saw at Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA.
What, 6,000, 8,000 activists?
2,000 precinct committee men?
So tell me, where do we go from here?
Do we go Tim Scott?
Do we go Glenn Youngkin?
Do we go Ralph Kemp down in Georgia?
Where do we go from here?
laura loomer
Brian Kemp actually released a statement yesterday, Steve, saying that he was not going to be running for president in 2024.
I don't know why he felt compelled to say that.
You know, I think there's a lot of rumors going around that he's either going to replace DeSantis or Glenn Youngkin.
steve bannon
But what he said, though, is that situations change.
Doors always open.
He and Youngkin are leaving it totally open.
and if it's something opportunity remember the key to the the Santa's Fox situation the Murdoch's the Murdoch's are totally transactional I've said this.
If DeSantis works out, DeSantis is their guy.
If he doesn't work out, he's gone.
The eject button, how close do you think, you've covered this closer than anybody, how close do you think the eject button is on DeSantis with Fox?
You think they're over it?
Because the other day they had Bartiromo actually on President Trump, then they had him on Howard Kurz.
You think they're over it?
laura loomer
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, nothing gets past Rupert Murdoch.
So you don't get to push a narrative without getting approval from Suzanne Scott on the seventh floor of Fox News.
And you don't get to say anything unless Rupert Murdoch approves it.
And so anybody who has worked for Fox News knows this, right?
They have a blacklist.
They control their messaging very tightly.
And so I think that they're already looking for a replacement to put their money behind.
And I'm not saying that Brian Kemp isn't going to run just because he issued a statement, but I was going to add on to that, Steve, that in his statement he also said that, oh, well, I will say Even though I'm not running, you do have to win Georgia in order to win a general election.
So perhaps their strategy is to run somebody like a Brian Kemp in order to prevent Donald Trump from winning a state like Georgia, because we know how much voter fraud goes on in the state of Georgia.
You never know.
But Glenn Youngkin, of course, has a lot of his own money from working with, I believe, what, Carlisle Group and He's very wealthy, and so he wouldn't necessarily need to depend on the donor class as much as somebody like Ron DeSantis, whose net worth was only $350,000, according to financial disclosure forms, prior to his multi-million dollar payday by Rupert Murdoch.
steve bannon
That's a question.
Was that net worth of $300-some-thousand, was that prior to?
I thought that was post, at least the initial installments.
That was pre-he cut the $2 million book deal?
laura loomer
Yeah, so those are the expenditure reports, Steve, that he filed shortly before he won re-election as governor of Florida.
Ron DeSantis lives in the governor's mansion with his wife and children, and so he doesn't own a home, he doesn't own a car, according to his own financial records.
Perhaps, you know, perhaps he has money elsewhere in offshore accounts.
I don't know.
But the reality is, according to his own expenditure reports prior to getting the book deal, and running for president, his net worth was only $350,000, which he said was listed all in cash.
And now, right, as of a week and a half ago, there was a report out that he's now worth over 1.27 or $1.17 million. And who knows, maybe he'll get even more money. But book deals are a way to transfer money.
steve bannon
Yeah, they launder the things through the Bidens that give Hunter Biden a huge deal. Joe Biden the wife all that.
Laura, how do people, you've got an 8 minute or 10 minute part, we're going to push that out, video today, you've got other reporting, where do people go to, because you're probably on top of this, More than anyone else.
Where do people go to get to you?
laura loomer
Thanks, Steve.
Yeah, people can follow me on Substack.
You can subscribe today at lauraloomer.substack.com.
That's also how people can support my independent journalism.
lauraloomer.substack.com.
And then you can follow me on Twitter, Getter, Gab, and Truth Social at lauraloomer so that you never miss any of my updates.
And I'll be releasing another video about Ron DeSantis today.
steve bannon
Laura, the War Room Posse understands it and appreciates it.
We did a live show, as you know, our 10 to noon Saturday show from Turning Point, and we were talking about DeSantis, and I said, what happened to Ron DeSantis?
And one of the audience members, Laura Loomer!
Yeah, big league.
Big time.
So the audience understands.
Laura, thank you for carving time out today to join us.
Appreciate it.
laura loomer
Yeah, thanks for having me on, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, great.
I have Sherry and Nolan Chang.
I have Sherry and Nolan Chang joining us today from the West Coast.
Guys, thank you for joining us.
I wanted to have you on because of the energy coming out of the grassroots.
You guys are from Hawaii, that's where you live.
Nolan was at the Navy shipyard, the Naval shipyard in Pearl Harbor, very close to my Very close to my own heart as my own destroyer went through some work there and they do a great job.
Sherry's in the finance industry.
Just give us a sense.
You've gone to more conferences, I think, than most in many different parts of the country.
You've flown over here to the mainland to do it.
Sherry, maybe you can start.
Give us your sense of the grassroots.
Where's the grassroots right now as far as you sense having gone to a number of these conferences?
Where's their heads at?
unidentified
I think right now, the reason we went to this conference, it was action oriented.
We went from, I think our first conference was right after or during COVID where we felt helpless.
But coming to this conference, I think you feel like you're going to do something.
You're going to take action.
You're not going to take it anymore.
And getting involved is one way to do it.
And I think the breakout sessions were very helpful.
for us to meet other people that are like-minded.
steve bannon
Yeah, one of my takeaways is... Yeah, go ahead, sir.
Go ahead.
unidentified
I'll talk about, you can ask some questions here, but I'll talk about the grassroots level because I'm involved in the district level, the precinct level.
I'm also the vice chair of the East Honolulu region, so I'll go into more specifics on how all of this experience and all the conferences we've attended has helped me At the grassroots level in Hawaii.
steve bannon
Well talk to us about that.
Let me hear because this conference was action oriented, but you guys have been to other ones too.
How did having these conferences that deal with action help you as a vice chairman or help you as a precinct committeeman?
unidentified
Exactly so.
When I say this, I'm not only talking locally, I'm talking nationally.
And for all of you out there in the posse and beyond, you know what's happening in the Republican Party nationally, or what's not happening, which is very important.
And so I'm going to lead into that, but I'll set everything up by saying this.
Most of the conferences we've been to, they always talk about we're in a spiritual battle, and I believe that.
And so keep that in the back of your mind.
We are in a battle.
There's 8 billion of us in that battle.
Visualize a coliseum with 8 million people on the battlefield fighting right now.
A small percentage of us are fighting that battle right now.
There's another percentage that are unawakened, unaware.
They don't even know we're in a spiritual war.
They don't even know about transgenderism, transhumanism, child trafficking, illegal immigration, drag queens telling stories in front of our children.
And if they heard about it, maybe they don't believe.
They think it's a conspiracy theory.
And so then you have another percentage of people in that battle, in that Colosseum, that are on the fence, that they know of all these problems, but deciding not to fight.
Okay, so now we're on that battlefield, but guess who's in the stands in that Colosseum?
Guess who's watching this battle?
God's watching the battle.
Jesus is Mother Mary is watching this battle.
I can hear the mystic faces.
I'll continue after the break.
steve bannon
Hang on.
We're going to take a short break.
We've got Sherry and Nolan Chang.
They are grassroots leaders.
They've been to these conferences and are talking about the fight ahead.
Short commercial break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CCB!
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
steve bannon
So Nolan, can you pick up and continue that of this metaphor or analogy you're using about the Coliseum and who's fighting and who's just kind of watching and who's on the fence?
unidentified
Exactly.
And so everybody in the nation who's involved with the Republican Party know of this situation, right?
There's a lot of people on the fence, not engaging, not getting into a battle like a lot of us.
And so within the Republican Party, I see it in my state, but also when I go to the conferences, we're not alone.
I hear the same problems in other states.
There's dysfunction.
There's infighting.
There's battles going on within the Republican Party.
Instead of fighting the enemy in the Coliseum, we're fighting ourselves.
So we gotta drop the ego, drop the personal agendas, drop the personal conflicts.
We have to forgive one another, reconcile, make peace, and fight together.
Right now, this is how we're fighting in the Republican Party.
We're splintered, right?
We're fragmented.
But if we all join together as one, now, right, that fragmentation becomes one fist.
And instead of slapping each other and slapping the enemy, we start punching the enemy.
We start punching transgender people.
All these perversions that are going on in our country.
And how do we do that?
As a team, as one, we start at the grassroots level, at the precinct level.
All the precinct committeemen, the 2,000 strong that were at TPUSA, right?
We're all making contacts with each other.
We're all reaching out to each other.
We all have to work as one team.
This isn't about the 50 states.
This is about one nation working together to fight evil, to fight this perversion, to win this spiritual battle.
So we work, we start at the grassroots precinct level.
If you're out there, if you're on the fence, become a precinct committeeman.
If you're on the fence, do something, become a district chair, right?
And from that grassroots level, this is how we find all, I call them champions.
Who are the champions?
Find them in your district, find them in your county, and make that person a legislator, a state legislator, a congressman.
Make that person one of your mayors, one of your governors, right?
These champions.
We're tired of super PACs and all the puppets they put in through the super PACs.
We've got to get these champions from the grassroot level.
We have to lift them up into the political positions to help us win this battle in the Coliseum.
steve bannon
Nolan, what would your Idea be about what what are the one or two ideas that could bring everybody together if you've got the grassroots and you particularly see a turning point you say you've got a lot of Cohesion in that cadre, but obviously some people are not are low information.
Other people are indifferent.
Some people are afraid What is your pitch to how do you bring that together?
How do you use that cadre?
To bring everybody else on board and understand we got a we got a unite as one fist and work together What would be your idea?
unidentified
Perfect.
So I'll speak about Hawaii right now within our own party.
So we're having this kind of conversation.
We all know that there's fragmentation, dysfunction.
So we all come together.
We all have that common message.
Look at what the Republican Party represents.
I think there's a lot of people, I call them the unawake and unaware, who don't even know about our platform, which is to fight transhumanism, transgenderism, child trafficking, all the drag queens telling stories to our children.
Critical race theory, all these things.
They don't even know what's going on.
My queen is telling me to calm down.
steve bannon
I get excited, man.
unidentified
Three things I can say.
If you think that you can't do it, you can, because you can pick up the phone.
You can talk to somebody.
You just have to take the first step.
I think we think that we've never been in politics before.
We don't know how this works.
So get informed.
I've read all the books he recommended on The War Room.
I listen to The War Room.
I try to tell other people to do so.
We took a small step and when we met the Mighty American Strike Force through Melissa in Cats in Dallas, we formed a friendship.
Then it grew.
We had five people that went to help Carrie Lake.
We took the step.
None of us had ever done that.
Campaign, door knocked.
It was exciting because we were doing something That we believed in, and we were taking our country in the right direction, we felt.
But little things.
When you tell the posse to make calls to Congress, I send Nolan a text, because I'm at work, and tell him, you need to call right now.
Look at Getter.
Look at what Steve Bannon is saying.
And then other people do it.
But I think if you take a small step, it helps.
Because you know that I can do it.
And I can start taking on other things.
We don't have any experience.
You know, he has a lot of positions now in the precinct, and it's new.
It's new, but he's learning.
Yeah.
And so, another part of that answer would be communication, education.
So all the unawake and unaware, we have to reach out to them, communicate to them, and talk about our platform.
And there's many ways of doing that.
We're starting our... Have you noticed... Go ahead.
steve bannon
Let me just ask you about the camaraderie.
As you guys have gotten more involved and you've met Katz and I think in Dallas and Melissa and other people, has your world expanded?
I know you've got a very full life and people should know that the Changs have two amazing young sons who are both army officers.
I mean, this couple are incredible patriots and their sons are serving as active duty officers in the army right now, two of them.
Have you noticed, even given your full lives, has it expanded with the camaraderie you've met from other grassroots folks as you've worked together on some of these campaigns and some of these efforts?
unidentified
Most definitely.
I think with, especially the Carry Legs campaign, we have a great friend in California who was on the board but now is in election integrity in California.
Our other great friend, Don Mandy, who you saw being interviewed His family moved to Arizona, so now we have a contact in Arizona.
Our network is getting larger through Rick Potter, through the Mighty American Strike Force, because when he needs someone in a certain state, we all come together and say, we actually know somebody there.
But at this conference, a lot of what Scott Pressler was saying, some of those important states that we need to work on this year, Those were the exact same states the mighty American strike force was trying to see what we can do this year.
So we're trying to join forces so that we are successful.
We can accomplish the strategy that we need to so that in 2024 we are very successful with President Trump.
steve bannon
Last thing, Nolan, for you, before we bounce.
Hawaii's got so many Patriots in it.
It's such a great paradise.
Beautiful.
You've got Pearl Harbor.
You've got Schofield Barracks.
Can Hawaii go MAGA?
Are there enough real Patriots and MAGA out there to flip Hawaii?
unidentified
The key is right here.
If we all work together in Hawaii, we can do it.
We can flip it.
That's the key.
We communicate to each other.
We educate each other.
We reach out to people.
We have a lot of incredible patriots, Steve.
I'm telling you right.
We have some champions working with us right now.
But if we work together, we get together, we work as a family, nothing will stop us.
And that's my goal.
You asked me that question before.
What am I doing to turn Hawaii red?
Well, you saw my resume.
Through the Mighty American Strike Force, everything we're doing at the grassroots level.
But the key is for all the people out there, a shout out to all the people in Hawaii and our nation.
All we have to do is work together and nothing stops us.
Nothing.
And with God behind us, more so.
I fear no man.
I fear the deep state, the cabal, whatever you call them.
I fear nobody.
With him behind us and us working together, nothing stops us.
And of course, the War Room Posse.
steve bannon
Guys, how do people get to you on social media?
Nolan, Sherry, how do people follow you?
And, you know, I keep telling people, the camaraderie, the people you're going to meet, the friendships you're going to have, the common task and purpose is going to change your life.
And particularly people, not just the young, and Charlie's done such a great job.
But people over 45 or 50, the tradition is your world gets smaller.
This is a key to your world to get bigger and to get more involved in national issues, more involved in your community.
And you're going to meet people that are going to change your life that you would never met in a million years.
Nolan and Sherry, how do folks get to you?
unidentified
As you know, Steve, I'm from the old school.
So all I have is an email address, and that address is NOLAN.CHANG88 at gmail.com.
NOLAN.CHANG88 at gmail.com.
And also, shout out to the M.A.
I'm also involved with the Mighty American Strikeforce, so contact Rick Potter.
If you want to do something to help the nation, M-A-S-F dot online.
M-A-S-F dot online.
A mighty vote.
Thank you for the tip.
steve bannon
Guys, fantastic.
Sherry Nolan.
And by the way, Sherry, you did a good job of controlling Nolan.
He was, no, he was fantastic.
And God bless your sons.
Our prayers are with your boys as they're serving the United States, the United States of America and the U.S.
Army.
unidentified
Really, really proud of you guys and appreciate it.
Real quick, Steve.
You can send your prayers to my sons.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for having us on The War Room.
get their hands on the enemy.
Aloha!
I pray, God bless their enemies.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for having us on the war room.
We preach aloha.
steve bannon
Thank you guys.
Good to see you guys.
Incredible.
We're going to take a short break.
I'll tell you what we got.
I've got our own Natalie Winters.
Natalie, good to have you.
I've also got Ambassador Grinnell.
There's a developing situation in the Balkans and actually a hearing today.
The question I got is why Rick Grinnell is in the war room and why is Rick Grinnell not on Capitol Hill?
Rick Grinnell, Ambassador Grinnell, is one of the top advisors to President Trump and did more to really kind of bring peace to the Balkans that the administrative state and the mainstream media went, oh yeah, you know, it's just the Balkans.
Well, the Balkans is on fire right now and the Balkans could explode and really exacerbate the situation in eastern Ukraine Because, remember, the First World War, the end of the Victorian era started in the Balkans and the whole 20th century was changed.
Ambassador Grinnell is going to be with us.
We've got Natalie Winters all next to her and got with music from 1949.
She wore a yellow ribbon from John Ford's classic of the United States Army's Calvary.
back in a moment.
unidentified
I'm going to be a little bit more dramatic. I'm going to be a little bit more dramatic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
Bam.
Peace.
steve bannon
Oh Okay, welcome back, Ambassador.
Okay, here's a question I got.
I want to give you a signal, not noise.
The Balkans is a tinderbox, has been a tinderbox since the late 19th, well, it's been a tinderbox since the time of the memorial, but really since the late 19th century.
It was the driver of the First World War, which we never really recovered from until the Berlin Wall came down.
The bloodiest century in mankind's history started there.
There is a hearing today on the Balkans.
You and President Trump.
richard grenell
House Republicans.
steve bannon
House Republicans leading the thing.
No, he's the chairman.
This is what I got, and I'm so glad you broke time away.
I saw it, and I talked to Alexander Print.
I said, what the hell's going on here?
How can you have a hearing?
By Republicans, on the Balkans, and the only thing you've got is the only witness is the Special Envoy to Biden.
How can you not have Grinnell and these other people that know the area?
This thing's a tinderbox.
The Serbia situation, what's happened in Kosovo, this whole war in Ukraine, it's going to explode into the Balkans, and then it's going to metastasize, and then we've got the Third World War in Europe, and then you've really got something.
It's not just two Slavic nations slugging it out on the eastern border of Ukraine.
unidentified
No idea.
steve bannon
I don't know the answer.
As you know, I live in Los Angeles.
Happen to be here for a couple of other reasons, so I'm in Washington D.C.
and not over in Capitol Hill?
In a Republican-controlled committee, sir?
richard grenell
No idea.
I don't know the answer.
As you know, I live in Los Angeles.
Happen to be here for a couple of other reasons.
So I'm in Washington, D.C.
I find out about this hearing, and I reach out and just say, hey.
steve bannon
You find out about it, nobody on the staff had said, hey, Rick, can you give us a briefing?
Can you tell us what's going on?
You and Trump brought peace to the region, at least temporarily.
You did more than you've been getting people on that.
You've been working nonstop on this.
Could you give us your insights?
Even off the record, come by and have a cup of coffee.
You don't get that?
richard grenell
So I did get that after.
The hearing notice when I raised my hand and I said... When you raised the issue... And the way that I raised it, just so you know, is I saw the witness and I said, you can't have this one Biden witness talking about Kosovo Serbia who hasn't been... Grinnell's such a gentleman.
Who hasn't been to the region.
steve bannon
Old school classy.
richard grenell
Who hasn't been to the region.
No one's been to the region.
Two and a half weeks ago I was just in the northern part of Kosovo where it's a Serb dominated area.
Everyone said don't go there.
It's dangerous.
The EU, the US, everybody.
steve bannon
Because it is.
richard grenell
They said don't go.
Steve, I went without security.
I met with the 20 most important people there who are Serbs in North Micivica.
I had lunch with them.
I walked the streets.
They were waving to me.
They were saying, thank you for being here.
No one is going to the area to listen to the people most impacted.
The EU representative came to Washington and we had a State Department person and the EU person here in Washington, D.C.
talking about the region when I was there in the region.
I've seen U.S.
Senators, Democratic Senators in the region.
I've had the NSC call me and say, hey, what are you hearing?
Everybody's interested, but nobody's actually doing anything.
So when I saw that they only had one witness, I raised my hand and I said, wait a minute, guys.
I'm not sure that the junior staffers understand this, but the witness that you have hasn't been there, doesn't know.
And literally, I just read his testimony because they send it out early.
It's a whitewashing.
There's no facts on the ground.
There's no real flavor to the fighting.
It's all just State Department talk of like, oh, we're working with all parties and we hope that there's peace.
No, there are absolute people to call out who are causing problems.
The prime minister of Kosovo is a disaster, Elbenkurti.
It is his fault.
He has united Republicans, Democrats, Europeans, and NATO all together to condemn him.
Now, that's unheard of because we, the United States, have had great relations with Kosovo in the past, but Jack Smith actually put the President of Kosovo, Hashim Thaci, In a Hague court, in prison now.
He's still in prison three years later.
There is no judicial process.
The charges against the Kosovo president from Jack Smith are totally phony.
All of the media in the Balkans are talking about how phony it is.
steve bannon
This is the same Jack Smith that just came as President Trump today?
richard grenell
Yes.
steve bannon
Walk me through his efforts in the international court in Hague.
richard grenell
So he's been working in the Hague.
This is a crazy story, but I'm going to tell you the truth here.
When I was the presidential envoy negotiating between Kosovo and Serbia, we were making so much progress, we were talking about getting rid of some of the NATO troops.
Because nobody wants NATO troops in their country if you're trying to appeal to Western companies to come in and grow your economy.
So I said, let's get rid of some of the NATO troops, and then I got agreement from both sides to get rid of the international court that was ruling over them, former Yugoslavia, it's called ICTY, mandated by the UN Security Council.
We pay for it, Steve.
American taxpayers are paying for this court in The Hague.
The previous prosecutor, before Jack Smith, had been there about six years and said, I've looked at everything, there's no indictments to give, I'm walking away, I'm leaving.
DOJ sent in Jack Smith.
I got both parties to agree to get rid of the International Court, bring all of the court proceedings back to Kosovo or Serbia, let these countries who have been trained for 20 years to realize their own judicial system and to take control of it.
I made a mistake.
I called DOJ.
A guy named Bruce Schwartz, still got his voicemail on my phone, and I said to Bruce Schwartz, hey Bruce, just FYI, I got the two parties to agree to get rid of the ICTY, get rid of the special prosecutorial court over coastal Serbia.
I'm not getting rid of the cases.
If you think that there's a case, we're just going to bring it to the jurisdiction of in-country.
It was a tough decision that both sides were willing to do.
I was going to put it in the final agreement, but I tipped off DOJ.
Bruce Schwartz said to me, Oh, Rick, I need to talk to Jack Smith about this and in the Hague because, you know, he's in charge of all this.
And I said, well, look, we got a big agreement coming from both sides.
President Trump negotiated this.
We're about to go into the Oval Office and sign this agreement and get rid of the Hague.
We're going to get rid of Jack Smith's job.
I thought that the Hague, the DOJ types, would say, this is progress.
This is amazing.
Saving American taxpayer dollars.
Having two countries stand up and say, we can handle this.
steve bannon
They're getting back to normal.
richard grenell
Guess what happened?
Within two months, Jack Smith indicted Hashim Thaci to try to stop this process, who was the president of Kosovo.
steve bannon
That was slightly in your face.
richard grenell
Yeah.
I thought that our negotiations were over.
Luckily, the parties in Kosovo quickly scrambled, found a new leader.
Wasn't the best leader, but they found one.
I made him come.
I said, you have to come where you've got so much progress.
Take the spot for Kosovo there.
We did sign this agreement, but Jack Smith tried to stop it now.
The reality is, as I could put some Balkan reporters on this show to explain to you, that those witnesses that Jack Smith used to indict the president of Kosovo, Hashim Thaci, who is still in prison, these witnesses will come forward and say a couple of things.
I was lied to by Jack Smith.
I didn't say all of this stuff.
It's not what I meant to say when you put this in.
And here's the zinger, Steve.
One of the witnesses will say, Jack Smith and his prosecutors faked a CIA agent with a fake card.
I've seen the fake ID.
And this person sat across from me and said, I work for the CIA.
You need to help us prosecute Hashim Thaci.
And you need to say these things.
Now, this is an accusation, I want to be clear.
I don't know these witnesses.
All I'm telling you is that these witnesses have come forward.
The media in the Balkans have publicized this information.
The U.S.
media is completely disinterested.
They don't want to know if there's a man sitting in prison at the Hague who shouldn't be in prison and was indicted because of political reasons.
steve bannon
How did this guy then become the inquisitor on Donald J. Trump?
richard grenell
He was appointed by Biden to leave the Hague and come back and take over these, you know, Merrick Garland.
And Joe Biden decided, let's get this guy.
He's really political.
He knows how to manipulate everything.
I'll finish with this.
The Prime Minister of Albania, Idi Rama, who is a socialist.
I like him.
He's a good guy.
He's close to George Soros, to be honest.
He's a socialist.
He's dealing with Albania.
He's not a conservative.
You should Google the speech that he gives at the Council of Europe.
Where he chastises the Europeans for keeping Hashimoto in prison and he says, this is a shameful, shameful episode that the Europeans are allowing this guy to be in prison.
That is Jack Smith!
steve bannon
But here's what I understand.
McCall runs this thing.
Why are you not there?
And why are we hearing this from Wharram?
Why in a formal setting?
richard grenell
I think more people are going to hear it on War Room than they are at a hearing.
They didn't ask me.
They didn't ask me.
I don't know what to say.
steve bannon
This is the frustration people have of doing all this work.
richard grenell
Why work for Republicans?
Why try to get Republicans elected who come here, become chairman, and then wimp out?
steve bannon
They come to the cocktail party circuit in Georgetown.
What is the problem with McCaul?
richard grenell
Look, I think that it's clear that he's not willing to put a light on the failures of Joe Biden.
You could go through the world and I could give you all sorts of spots that we should be talking about.
How about Venezuela?
How about the Balkans?
How about what's going on in Iran?
If I were the chairman, I'd be doing a weekly event to highlight the failures of foreign policy.
But we're just not getting that.
And it's really frustrating, and I've pushed... But here's what I don't understand.
steve bannon
You've got to help me out here.
You're on anybody's shortlist in Trump's second term, which will come.
He's up by six on Harvard-Harris, on Biden now.
You're on the shortlist.
Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, head of the CIA, something, right?
unidentified
Big.
steve bannon
Why would these committees, why would a guy like McCaul not have you come and testify in an area that you're an expert, just got back from, and probably did more to secure peace in an area that is always at war, right?
Always in turbulence.
Why would McCaul not have you come?
And particularly we've got an envoy that doesn't know what's going on.
richard grenell
From my perspective, Steve, I was just there.
I'm the guy who listened to the Serbs in Kosovo and pushed for the release of the three Albanian police officers.
It was a big moment.
I didn't want to go there, but I was asked by some very important people to go and they said, you're the one that they'll listen to and so please go.
If anything, I'm the American and the European.
Uh, if you want to include the Europeans in this group, I'm the one that has actually been there with the most up to date factual information.
Um, let alone if you want to remove politics from it.
Um, we should have better information coming out of these hearings.
I don't know why, but I can promise you I've raised it to the staff and to other congressional people.
There are congressmen and congresswomen who are furious about this.
Um, My phone is blowing up to say why are we doing a hearing on coastal Serbia and you're not there?
Look, they get to decide.
I'm going to continue doing what I am going to do.
I'm going to the region on Saturday again because this is a tinderbox and I don't care what people are saying.
Here in Washington, we need diplomats who are watching this.
When you look at what's happening in Ukraine, this could easily go into the Balkans.
steve bannon
I want to take a short, can you hang on for a second?
We do have Mike Lindell, but I need to ask you, my question when we come back, being a tinderbox and it's had a horrible history in starting conflicts, Why should MAGA and why should the American people care?
We've got so many problems.
Why should we care about the Balkans?
Ambassador Rick Grinnell, I'm going to make a production decision.
Natalie, because I've got to get Natalie.
We've got a lot to go through on Fauci, Wuhan, so much else.
She's going to come on the 5 o'clock show.
I'm also going to have Don Jr., Caroline Wren, Carrie Lake.
There's a book signing in the Villages today.
Make sure you go to it.
We'll be there live.
Hopefully, if we can get organized with Don Jr.
and Kimberly.
Also, Matt Schlapp's going to break his new ranking system over at the Capitol Hill Club will be there live.
Natalie will be with us.
A lot going on this afternoon.
Okay, at the 5 to 7 show.
Ambassador Rick Grenell is going to stick with us.
Hopefully track down Mike Lindell also.
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Tomorrow we're going to be at Bedminster.
Jack Bassobic at 2.
We're going to pick it up from 4 to 6 here on Real America's Voice.
Also will be on Lyndale TV at 6.
The whole pregame for the Sound of Freedom special screening with President Trump.
And the folks up there in Bedminster, and we're going to have an all-star cast and crew up there.
I really want to thank RAV and the President, everybody, for doing this.
The movie's done $85 million, did a bunch yesterday.
Number one film in America, Sound of Freedom.
Cavieze will be with us, Tim Ballard will be with us, and Eduardo Vestigat will be with us.
Okay, we got a couple minutes.
You're very highly—you should know—you're very highly regarded by President Trump because actually, the way you can portrait— You've done such a great job with him, whether it's in Germany or in the Balkans.
or anything in the Balkans.
I got two minutes.
Why should, with all the problems we've got going on, why should people right now focus and care about the Balkans?
richard grenell
Look, I believe in America First agenda, rule of law, capitalism, doing what's best for But I can argue, and I think that our diplomats around the world should be at the forefront of arguing, that when America puts itself first, and we prioritize capitalism, the rule of law, respect for human rights, when we put ourselves first, We are not a selfish country.
The rest of the world benefits when America puts itself first because we established the rules of law that are fair, that are about capitalism, that are about good ideas and entrepreneurship.
That's the first point.
The second point, the peoples of America should care because we're already spending money, Steve.
There are 12 UN peacekeeping operations around the world.
Two of them are a billion dollars a year.
We pay 25%, 24% of that.
It rolls over every year.
You're spending $250 million every year for one peacekeeping operation.
There are 12 total.
No one is concentrating on getting rid of these peacekeeping operations, or the troops in Kosovo, which are NATO-led troops.
This was Indiana troops were in Kosovo, Iowa was there before, and Texas is just taking over.
steve bannon
Of course, let's not have Grinnell testify.
You're even making me madder now.
No, it's outrageous.
richard grenell
We've got a problem to solve.
We can't just roll things in.
steve bannon
A lot of these establishment Republicans do not want to hear the Trump perspective on America First.
That's one of the reasons you're not there.
I've got to bounce, but I want to have you back on about this.
You're going to the region without security this weekend?
richard grenell
I'm going Saturday, yeah.
steve bannon
Mike Lindell, walk me through what you're working on today.
Particularly, is it true that the company's being liquidated when I read all these articles in the paper that there's going to be no more MyPillow and no more MyPillow Company?
mike lindell
No.
That was the retail stores.
That's two and a half year old news.
And we lost the retail stores, the packaging and stuff for that.
That's what we had the auction on, Steve.
It's a big lie in the media.
But our commercial that was launching today, it's all really the 1998 queen size MyPillow, which I have right here.
We've had a bad thing happen this morning.
our website, the MyPillow website, was hacked or was attacked or whatever.
So now when you come in, you can call in or you're gonna be redirected to the MyStore site, everybody, so we're getting through this.
They put up, see, they put up fake sites all over the internet.
I mean, they're just coming at us today for our big anniversary launch.
But you get the queen size MyPillows for $19.98, the king size for $29.98.
So when you do get online right now, you'll see the site says it's under maintenance and then you can go over to the MyStore, which we're gonna have the pillows available there, or you can call us.
I just can't believe it, Steve.
It never ends.
They just keep attacking.
steve bannon
Hold it, hold it, hold it.
Today was our 20th anniversary.
You're kicking off.
You've got the spots.
You've got everything we've worked on.
They hacked the sites.
They did a DDoS attack and took the sites down?
mike lindell
Yeah, it's been out since 4 o'clock this morning when I woke up to this red alert emergency.
And then I went online and I see they had put up sites on eBay and these fake sites and bought the Google AdWords.
It was very, very planned and very coordinated.
And we've had this happen only one other time, and I think we know when that was, about two and a half years ago, when they did all the big attack with the box stores.
So they always try, you know, I guess I didn't expect this on our 20-year anniversary, but nothing surprises me anymore, Steve.
unidentified
So we have all hands on deck.
steve bannon
Mike, they're afraid of the election summit.
They're afraid of your debate on Tim Poole, and they're afraid of MyPillow.
MyPillow.com, promo code WORM.
What's the number they should call, Mike, if they can't get on site?
Where do they call?
mike lindell
The number they can call is 1-800-969-5018.
unidentified
Here, put it up there quick.
mike lindell
Here it is.
The number they can call is 1-800-969-5018.
1-800-969-5018, everybody.
Thank you for help everybody.
steve bannon
Let's support Mike Lindell.
We'll get back to you.
I'll call you after the show.
mike lindell
Thank you.
steve bannon
You don't think they hate Mike Lindell?
You don't think they know he's a fighter for freedom?
They're trying to put the company out of business.
They're shutting down the website.
They're coming after him because of the election summit.
And what he's done on getting to the back of what's going on with these machines.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
Five o'clock, we've got Natalie, we've got Don Jr., Caroline Wren, Carrie Lake, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Mash Lab.
We're packed wall to wall.
Also tomorrow, we are at Bedminster.
We're at Bedminster to do live coverage of the Sound of Freedom.
Go to soundoffreedom.com or go to angel.com.
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