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Episode 2884: Digital Currency To Become The Next Frontier Of Government Control
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
peter navarro
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
peter navarro
Chris, there's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with President Donald J. Trump and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door.
And that's what bad faith Justin Trudeau did with that stunt press conference.
That's what weak, dishonest Justin Trudeau did.
And that comes right from Air Force One.
unidentified
There are 110 active fires in Quebec.
Almost 1,200 people from Cree communities across the northern part of the province have fled their homes due to wildfires and smoke.
peter navarro
The return of residents of... Hey, Peter K. Navarro in for the Admiral Stephen K. Bannon.
Great to be with you today.
I've got a really special, special guest that's going to come on In what we call the B Block in just a few minutes, but I wanted to start off the show with a couple of things.
That clip of me talking about a special place in Trudeau, in hell for Justin Trudeau, the Prime Minister of Canada, juxtaposed with what the hell we have now in Canada with the forest fires burning, which in turn are making our life hell here.
Downwind in the United States, I thought was an interesting juxtaposition.
There was more than a few times I almost got fired when I was at the White House.
I was only one of three guys that lasted the whole time from the campaign to the end.
But that one seemed to hit a nerve.
But the reality is, I don't regret saying that at all, because what we have is people like Trudeau, Macron in France, Uh, they love to tweak the nose of the United States.
Um, and that particular incident was particularly disrespectful to president Trump because no, no more was he heading out of airspace in Canada.
From the G20 then and Trudeau started mouthing off.
But the reason why I just want to comment briefly on these forest fires is because predictably Trudeau and others here on our side of the border using those forest fires as an argument to promote the climate change agenda.
I'm not going to say a lot about that, but I can say in this case, Canada has a history older than this republic of having massive forest fires long before the Industrial Revolution that did tremendous damage to our country.
And what's interesting about this particular incident is that it's a politician-made disaster.
It's the special place in hell that Trudeau created was a product of neglect in terms of sound forest management practices in the Canadian wild.
And this is what we get.
And the irony here and the economics of climate change are really difficult because what the essence of the climate change agenda is to force us here in the United States to dramatically decrease carbon emissions at great cost, despite the fact we're the most efficient nation in the world when it comes to using energy.
And meanwhile, we let other countries like China and India just off the hook.
But here's the irony.
It's like Canada is creating Far more carbon dioxide emissions this summer with its wildfires than it has saved in the last 10 years trying to deal with the climate change.
So just put that in your pipe and smoke it, Trudeau.
Special place in hell for you, sir.
All right, now do me a favor.
Pull in the digital Yuan clip, which is what I really want to talk about today.
unidentified
Some Steve's talked a lot about throw that on if you can Denver If you think about the benefits of digital money, there are huge potential gains.
It's not just about digital forms of physical currency.
You can have programmability, you know, units of central bank currency with expiry dates.
You could have, as I argue in my book, a potentially better, and some people might see it, or a darker world where the government decides that units of central bank money can be used to purchase some things, but not other things that it deems less desirable.
The Chinese government could set up a whole lot of things to have your currency maybe valid or invalid based on its own priorities.
This is almost like handing over the keys to your business or to your finance department in some ways because you really can't control what at the end of the day may happen with the funds that you're holding.
clay clark
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peter navarro
All right, so that wasn't a mistake, having that little ad for the Substack at the end.
I bundled that together with this whole digital yuan thing because I just released a new article on the Substack, which deals with the Orwellian dangers of the Yuan.
Now Steve has talked a lot about this.
There's been a lot of action.
So what I'd like to do for you is kind of deconstruct how we do things here in a way.
So we have that clip.
You start off with kind of the globalist Davos perspective.
This guy like pimping these digital currencies as a good thing, when in fact they can be a very bad thing.
And that's The next gentleman that comes on kind of makes that point.
And so, in this article in the Substack, I want to walk you through, kind of deconstruct it.
The way to think about this, and this goes back to my days in the White House, worrying about this.
We have a system now where the United States is what they call the world's reserve currency, which is to say That nations around the world, when they hold foreign reserves, which is a natural thing they have to do to kind of pay off transactions and things like that, most of it's dollars.
Like 60% of the world's foreign reserves are in the U.S.
dollars.
So we are the world's dollar So that's one piece of the puzzle.
And then there's a second piece, which is called the SWIFT system.
And this is the system whereby all these financial institutions operating across nations are able to transparently clear their transactions in dollars and yen and euros and things like that through the SWIFT system.
And one of the benefits of the dollar being a reserve currency is it creates this high demand for the dollar that lowers our interest rates and mortgage rates.
That's a good thing.
But the demand for the dollar also increases the value of the dollar.
And this used to drive me nuts in the Trump White House.
I'd be sitting with the boss in the Oval with guys like Treasury Secretary Mnuchin, the National Economic Council Director Kudlow, and they're talking about King Dollar and loving it, but the reality is a strong dollar, a strong dollar stronger than it would otherwise be, basically Just pumps the hell out of our trade deficit, because it makes imports cheaper and our exports dearer, less competitive.
And so, effectively, king dollar, a strong dollar, because we're the world's reserve currency, among other things, exports our factories and jobs.
It's very much a double-edged sword, okay?
But that's the economics of it.
The geopolitics are far more interesting.
Because we're the reserve currency, and because we have overriding influence over this swift system, we're able to impose financial sanctions on countries and on companies
Dealing with countries in ways which are designed to stop or discourage certain behaviors, like we put sanctions on Putin's Russia to stop them from getting into the Ukraine.
We put them on after China took Hong Kong.
We put them on Iran when they do the nukes, trying to nuke Israel.
But the problem is, and again I go back to my Trump White House days, I'm in the White House and say, hey, we can't keep doing this because what they're doing is getting ready to evade the sanctions by making their own currency the reserve currency.
They're trying to displace this.
Steve Bannon's talked a lot about this.
That's what they're doing now.
The issue here is, the dollar is still dominant if you look at the aggregate statistics, but as I explained in the subset, what China's strategy is, is to focus on a smaller block of nations.
For example, Russia now, I think a third of its reserves are in Yuan alone.
And so, just having the Chinese Yuan more and more in countries like Russia, Iran, Iraq, Are good buddies in France not?
Are good buddies in India not?
Argentina?
Bangladesh?
What this does is it's creating this separate block of countries that are immune from sanctions, okay?
Here's the bigger punchline.
What the digital yuan does is it takes it up a notch.
It's basically a way that the Central Bank of China, working with the Ministry of State Security, can basically track, surveil, and trace every single transaction that's made with digital yuan, not just inside its borders, but outside its borders.
Not just with Chinese citizens, but also with foreign companies and foreign nations.
And right off the bat, you should see how dangerous it is, because if a citizen inside China protests about the Chinese government in any way, they can have their money literally shut off just in a heartbeat.
If any Chinese outside the U.S.
that are
If a foreign country or if a foreign company decides to have some kind of policy or make some kind of remarks about how Chinese policy and human rights abuse is in Xinjiang province or their crushing of Hong Kong or they're going after Taiwan or Christians or anything,
China can use that.
So the admonition here and the PeterNavarro.subzag.com, take a look at it.
You can, you can see that we need a policy here.
Biden doesn't have one.
Congress doesn't have one.
I can assure you that candidate and soon to be president Trump will have one, but the policy has to be that we simply can't afford Show me the two-shot here.
Can you show me this empty chair?
with the Chinese Communist Party because it is a road straight to hell.
All right, show me the two-shot here. Can you show me this empty chair? Yeah, this empty chair is going to be filled with one of the few living people here besides Steve Bannon who has helped and been, I would say, primarily responsible for electing a US president in their lifetime.
He's going to be sitting right in that chair with us and he's going to talk about President Trump, and we're going to do the campaign landscape.
So stay right here for the esteemed Dick Morris, Peter K. Navarro, in for Stephen K. Bannon.
You are in the War Room.
unidentified
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peter navarro
Hey, Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
You are in the War Room, and I am with my buddy Dick Morris.
He is the author of this best-selling book, The Return.
This is probably the best book to read in preparation for Trump's 2024 run, other than the one that's coming out next month, which is called The Biden It is so vital that we continue to be the global reserve currency.
But Dick, you were listening to my opening segment and you had some thoughts on this digital currency issue.
unidentified
It is so vital that we continue to be the global reserve currency because right now when France wants to run a budget deficit, they have to basically change the euro into dollars.
because it's a reserve currency, they need to then borrow in dollars and get switched back to euros. The US doesn't have to do that, we just run the printing press because we can print dollars and nobody else can. Now the gold people are trying to switch the world to a gold-based currency.
And Russia and China have amassed huge holdings in gold.
And they formed the BRICS countries, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.
And there are about 20 other countries trying to join them as a trading bloc.
It's a fundamental fallacy.
in a trade in Yuan or in another BRICS currency that would be specially developed by these nations backed by gold. But it's a fundamental fallacy. It goes back to the decision of the Spanish monarchy in the 16th century to base its power on gold.
and who had more gold. Whereas Britain said, the hell with gold, we want to have a market economy and have customers and have sales. The equivalent of that today is oil. Oil is by far the new gold, far more powerful than gold. And China's big vulnerability is that it consumes 15% of the world's oil, but it produces only 4%.
So it's desperately in need of energy.
Russia's big asset is that all it is is an oil well with an army because they've denuded the whole rest of the Russian economy.
They had the best educated workforce in the world and they squandered it on just becoming the new Saudi Arabia.
But the point is the United States can put them all to shame.
Right now we produce 12 million barrels of oil a day.
Russia produces 11, Saudi Arabia 10.
We could produce 20 or 25 million.
We could drown the world in oil.
All we need is for Biden to get the hell out of office and let us frack, let us drill offshore, let us build pipelines, the Keystone Pipeline, let us drill in so-called wilderness areas in Alaska, and we'll produce enough oil to drown the world.
And once that happens, the dollar will remain the dominant currency because it's backed by oil.
And let them all be backed by gold.
Try driving your car on gold, but oil you can.
And if we ever lose the power of the global currency, it will mean we will need the permission Basically of the UN to run a budget deficit.
And while that's good for fiscal responsibility, it would mean we would have to cut 20% of our spending overnight, which means goodbye Social Security, goodbye Medicare, goodbye much of the defense budget.
And we can't afford to do that.
So Trump is right that the struggle to keep the dollar paramount is really the major battle of our time.
Far more important than terrorism or any of these other issues.
peter navarro
Yeah, and it's interesting that the Saudis themselves have gotten into bed with the Chinese on this whole digital currency and yuan reserve currency.
It's really interesting to me that when I was in the White House with Trump, Trump was the guy who controlled the worldwide oil prices because he had the power literally of the pump And the drillers.
And if Saudi Arabia got out of line at OPEC, he'd just give them a call.
And I was there when he made a call or two.
Very interesting.
But right now, ironically, with the Ukraine situation, Russia has emerged, along with the Saudis, as those who control OPEC, not the United States anymore.
unidentified
It's interesting, just to put that in perspective for the history buffs here.
At the Yalta Peace Conference in 1945, FDR was dying, and died two months later.
And he told his boat, don't go directly back, stop off in Saudi Arabia.
And he was half dead, but he met with the king of Saudi Arabia.
For one purpose, to assure that the dollar would be the oil currency.
And that's how highly he thought of it.
That's how important it was.
And now we're about to get rid of that.
peter navarro
And the trade there was the U.S.
would protect the Saudis if the Saudis basically traded in dollars.
But before we go any further, I want people out in the war room to understand what this man is doing right now for this country.
You are arguably the top strategist for Donald John Trump for the 2024 re-election.
So as we talk about what we're going to talk about today, you have a unique perspective on this campaign because you're sitting there at the hand of Trump.
And I want folks out in the war room to know that.
unidentified
Well, it's important to understand that Donald Trump is a unique fusion candidate.
He's a hybrid.
He's half incumbent and he's half challenger.
peter navarro
Yes.
unidentified
So as the incumbents, all of the credibility issues that are raised, how do we know you can do that?
You say you're going to do that.
How do we know you're going to have no inflation?
How do we know you're going to have economic growth?
How do we know you'll seal the border?
This is just hot air.
He said, the hell it is.
Look at what I did.
And then the usual problem with what I did is, what are you going to do for me in the future?
You used up man, you did everything in the first term.
And he has articulated an incredibly bold and far-reaching agenda for the second term.
Illegal immigration.
He says, yeah, I'm going to still build the wall.
But the big reason people come here, women especially, is that their child can be an American citizen.
And he said, nope, if you're here illegally, you've not subjected yourself to the jurisdiction of the U.S., which is the wording of the Constitution, and I won't let your children become automatic citizens.
peter navarro
Does that include birthright citizenship?
unidentified
That is birthright citizenship.
peter navarro
So even if somebody comes in... The way they do it, okay, is they come over in the eighth month as tourists with a legitimate visa and have the baby here.
unidentified
Well, but if they come here illegally, their children cannot be automatically citizens.
They can be naturalized and everything.
Or another example is we all complain about the leftward drift of our colleges and schools.
But Trump doesn't just complain, he says, I'm going to cut off federal funding to school districts that teach critical race theory or that promote inappropriate gender change education for small children.
And for campuses, for colleges, no Pell grants, no scholarships, no student loans, no research contracts to any school that does not allow free speech on campus.
So he's taking all these issues and bringing a perspective to them.
You mentioned China, for example.
He's going to basically say, look, China was responsible for the plague, for the virus, for the pandemic.
And we insist they open their doors and permit inspection.
And we will come up with an impartial report on this.
And if they don't, which they won't, I will cut off all trade with China.
I will literally impose an embargo.
People say, oh, the U.S.
economy will be tanked.
No, it wouldn't.
When he imposed the tariffs you told him to impose, everybody said, oh, it's going to kill our economic growth, and it had no impact.
China was killed, but the U.S.
had no impact.
peter navarro
It actually helped us because it brought our jobs back home.
unidentified
That's right.
peter navarro
Without creating any inflation, which was really interesting because that was the primary Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
So his approach to these issues is very novel, very important, and I think that the fact that he's proposing important changes for the future while at the same time showcasing his record as an incumbent gives him this incredible advantage.
And really, people talk about the DeSantis campaign falling apart, and it is.
DeSantis being a lousy candidate, and he is.
But what's important is that since January of this year, he has laid out one of the most far-reaching and important agendas.
Go to Donald J. Trump slash Agenda 47 online.
Donald J. Trump slash Agenda 47.
And read him.
One after another, 30 proposals that will fundamentally change the world.
And they are amazing.
And his candidacy is so animated by a sense of change and a sense of record.
peter navarro
We are going to be right back with Dick Morris.
Dick, when we come back, one of the things I want to work through is the nuts and bolts of actually winning the primary and kind of go through the primary schedule.
Because when I was in back in the White House, everybody always talked about national polls.
I was more concerned about the battleground states.
In this case, I'm concerned about the sequencing of the primary.
Peter Knavara in for Stephen K. Bannon with the esteemed Dick Morris.
Stay right here.
You'll find out how Donald Trump is going to win in 2024.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CCP!
clay clark
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And now, he's writing for you at peternavaro.substack.com.
Get the latest updates related to the Chinese Communist Party's invasion of America.
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unidentified
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peter navarro
Hey, Peter Cane Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
Let's throw that website up there that Dick Morris mentioned, Donald J. Trump forward slash agenda 47, I believe.
But it's a really important web address because it lays out in specific detail exactly what the Trump agenda is going to be. And as Dick said earlier, the difference between Donald John Trump and everybody else in this race, including Joe Biden, is that Trump's actually done it and we know therefore he can do it again. Dick, what I want to do now is talk a little bit
about the road to becoming the Republican nominee.
And here's what concerns me.
You have an opposition, which contains at the very top of the food chain, Rupert Murdoch and the Fox News.
And New York Post Empire, and you can see as we speak, Murdoch and Fox News giving all sorts of airtime and free commercials to other candidates.
You've got the dark money of the Koch Brothers Network.
You've got the equally dark money of the New York hedge fund guys like Steve Schwarzman, Larry Fink, and those folks.
And what I see is a, what we call in economics, like tacit collusion going on between the various candidates.
So I look at the primary schedule and, you know, Iowa, they can't, they can't do a lot to kind of like do much there.
But once you hit South Carolina, which, which is front loaded.
In New Hampshire, that's where my concerns begin, particularly in South Carolina.
And so the idea is what they want to do is try to stop any Trump momentum early on.
And what they've done in South Carolina is they got two favorite sons in there.
You had Tim Scott, the senator, and Nikki Haley, the former governor.
And then in New Hampshire, you've got kind of the stalking horse non-candidate in Chris Nunu, the governor.
And then you've got just a lot of money going in.
You got Chris Christie, his role, the Pillsbury Dope Boy of Venom, I call him.
His role is simply to do the wet work.
He's like the mafia guy who's going to shoot bullets at the boss.
Talk to me a little bit about any concerns you might have about Trump against the cartel.
unidentified
Well, everything you described is accurate, but my money's on Trump.
peter navarro
My money's certainly on Trump, but what's the best way for him to navigate these people?
unidentified
In terms of funding, bear in mind that Trump has developed a funding source of small donors, many of whom I think are probably watching today.
And in the last quarter, for example, he raised $15 million in donations of less than $200.
By contrast, DeSantis raised $3 million.
So you can have all the big money boycotting Trump, but the small money, he raised 300 million in small contributions last time.
We'll see him through.
Iowa is, I think, the biggest threat because it's a caucus, and it takes a lot of energy to vote in the caucus.
You have to actually spend a whole evening doing that, and you have to travel farther than just to vote.
But we've had a steady lead in Iowa.
peter navarro
DeSantis tried to flank us on the right, Let me ask you quickly about Iowa, because I know the, is it the governor there that's against Trump?
Yeah.
And then you've had some random state legislatures and stuff like that.
unidentified
But that's not important.
What's important here, DeSantis tried To make the race about abortion by saying that he favored banning abortion at conception.
And Trump is saying, look, let's return this to the states.
We fought like hell in Roe v. Wade not to have one size fits all be the country.
And that fortunately is prevailing.
And DeSantis' effort, I think, is failing.
I think Trump is going to win Iowa.
He's currently More than 20 points ahead.
peter navarro
Okay.
unidentified
The opposition to him is so fractured and he doesn't have to win a majority of plurality.
peter navarro
We should note that winning Iowa has not exactly been good news for Republicans.
unidentified
Well, no candidate who's won Iowa has won anything.
peter navarro
Yes.
unidentified
But we'll be the exception.
peter navarro
Just throw that in there.
unidentified
New Hampshire, we have good leads in, and right now our latest polls have us at 51 there.
When Sununu was on the ballot in our tests, he was at 7%.
That's why he's not running.
And South Carolina, we We get over half the vote with two favorite sons in there.
And California has moved its ground.
peter navarro
Stay with me on South Carolina, because that state worries the hell out of me.
It's the place that gave rise to Mick Mulvaney, who is like He was in the administration.
He's totally toxic.
He turned on Donald Trump.
You got Lindsey Graham who, you know, I've advocated very outspokenly with the boss.
We need a Lindsey Graham free zone in the White House because whatever that guy wants is not MAGA.
We don't need him.
He's up for reelection.
I think so, but I'm not sure.
unidentified
I think he's endorsed Trump.
peter navarro
He's not making much progress.
unidentified
Well, it's not important.
He overshadows his endorsements.
Trump is such a unique figure that he overshadows all of this stuff.
peter navarro
What's Scott's game, Tim Scott?
Is he like a useful idiot, or does he just want to be vice president?
unidentified
Scott wants to be vice president, but he killed himself last week.
He said there was no fraud in 2020.
And you could just hear him being crossed off Trump's list.
Just gratuitous stupidity.
peter navarro
I'm hoping Nikki Haley's been crossed off about 20 times.
unidentified
Oh yeah, Nikki Haley.
The way to Donald Trump's heart is not to run against him.
He's not the forgiving.
peter navarro
When I was in the White House, there was another Nikki Haley problem.
She was constantly sticking the knife in his back.
unidentified
He's not the forgiving sort, put it that way.
And then California's moved its primary up to March 5th, which is a very front-loaded Super Tuesday agenda.
peter navarro
They're trying to change the rules on delegates, are they not?
unidentified
Yeah, but that'll only matter if we're close.
The fact of the matter is that it's complicated.
peter navarro
Well, for the viewers and listeners here, the issue is if you turned California From a winner-take-all to a proportional thing, the number of delegates it has and votes for the thing, that would be pretty significant.
unidentified
Well, it's more complicated than that.
The proposal is to take it by congressional district.
peter navarro
Okay.
unidentified
And each district has three delegates.
peter navarro
I see.
unidentified
To the National Convention.
The winner of the district gets one.
If Trump wins a plurality, which he will, he'll get two.
peter navarro
I see.
unidentified
And then the other candidates get one to split among them.
peter navarro
So the likely scenario is he'll... The worst case would be 60% in the belt instead of 100%.
unidentified
Yeah, but if he wins 51 of the state, There is no proportional.
He wins the whole thing.
So he's gonna walk out of there with 80% of the delegates.
peter navarro
But don't you have crossover votes in California?
unidentified
Well, you may, but there'll be... You may, but... You get, like, nefarious games, right?
You have to see how the Democratic field evolves.
But right now, I think that Trump will be the Republican nominee on March 6th.
By March 6th.
He may not, the others may not be out, but he'll be so far ahead.
peter navarro
By March 6th.
unidentified
By March 6th.
peter navarro
And that's after Super Tuesday.
unidentified
Yeah, the day after.
But let's look at the general election.
Trump has been four to seven points ahead of Biden in all the polling this year.
And Trump lost, in theory, the 2020 election by three points.
peter navarro
Not in theory.
He did not lose.
It was, you know, it was close enough to steal, but they stole it.
Anyway, go ahead.
unidentified
Three plus seven is ten.
Yeah.
So he's somewhere between six and ten points ahead right now in the popular vote.
And bear in mind that if there is a tie in the popular vote, the Electoral College arranges itself in such a way that the Republican wins the presidency.
You have to lose the popular vote by five points or four points in order to lose the Electoral College vote.
peter navarro
We won't have time to cover all of this before the next block.
Again, I go back to my days in the Trump White House and the months leading up to the 2020 election.
I'm sitting in the Oval.
You got Mnuchin and Kudlow.
You got Lighthizer.
You got some other folks in there.
And they're all like blowing smoke up the bosses, you know what, about how he's leading in the national polls.
And all I had to say was, I don't care.
What I care about is Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
Where do we stand there?
Now tell me, what's the path to victory?
Wisconsin looks really difficult right now, Dick.
unidentified
Well, it's hard to tell because we don't know who our opponent is.
peter navarro
Yeah.
unidentified
OK, because I don't know that Biden's going to make it that far.
Well, I bet on it.
And all of the published polls have always been wrong.
They always understate Trump's vote by a lot.
peter navarro
Yes.
unidentified
And when you look at the results of 2020, I did a thousand interviews a night for six nights before the election, and every single poll I had him winning Pennsylvania and Michigan by at least two points, which he allegedly lost, and Georgia we didn't even poll.
peter navarro
Milwaukee and Detroit, you know, the ballots into the night.
unidentified
Yeah, so we should have a separate section on voter integrity, which we'll get to, but let me just touch it now.
The way to make sure this election is not stolen is to vote early.
Republicans had this fetish that said we just vote on election day.
And if we vote early it's going to be stolen.
peter navarro
And this is ridiculous.
unidentified
In 1996, when I worked for Clinton, there were 100 million votes cast.
Now there are 165 million votes cast.
So obviously you have to have early voting and you have to have mail-in voting.
You have to have absentee voting.
Let Republicans win with the Democratic rules.
Early voting, absentee voting, mail-in voting.
And the Democratic strategy, particularly in Arizona, Was get all of the Republicans to vote early and then screw up the machines so none of them work and have hours-long lines outside and the Republicans go home and don't vote.
That was how Carrie Lake lost.
That's how we lost Arizona.
So vote early, by mail, by absentee.
Do not wait till election day.
All right.
peter navarro
We're going to take a break now.
We're going to come back for what we call the big finish.
The return here.
Dick Morris's book.
Don't forget to get this.
I want to keep pounding though on this battleground state strategy because it deeply concerns me.
Peter K. Dalvaro in for the Admiral.
I'm here with the esteemed Dick Morris.
We'll be right back.
Stay there.
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peter navarro
Hey, Peter K. Navarro in for the Admiral Stephen K. Bannon.
I'm here with the author of this book, The Return, The Gospel to Get Trump Back in the White House, 2024, Dick Morris.
Dick, I want to quickly just wrap up this battleground angst that I have, knowing what I know.
Georgia is a little bit funky to me.
I haven't figured that one out.
Arizona, an enigma.
And there's going to be rampant theft that we've got to guard against in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
What say you, sir?
unidentified
Well, if we had early voting by Republicans, we would have won all those states.
All of them.
peter navarro
That's the antidote.
unidentified
Yeah.
peter navarro
Okay.
unidentified
Carrie Lake wrote a book about her defeat.
Yeah.
And they didn't do any early voting.
And of course, and then the Democrats made it rain on our parade on Election Day, basically disconnecting the machines.
Yeah.
And no wonder we lost.
Pennsylvania, we went into the Senate race on Election Day.
Fetterman had a 600,000 vote lead.
How do you close that in 24 hours?
I want, if I can, just to spend a second on this overall view of 2024.
Americans are coming to grips with the fact that there is a deep state and that this deep state runs through all of the administrations, both parties.
And it consists of various names.
The military-industrial complex, the intelligence community, big pharma, the big energy companies, high-tech censorship.
peter navarro
Tony Fauci.
unidentified
What?
peter navarro
Tony Fauci.
unidentified
Fauci.
CDC, yeah.
And essentially the deep state is a unity.
It exists as its own stuff.
And the left and the right are increasingly coalescing in their animosity to the deep state.
You talk about how breast milk is containing carcinogens.
Well, that's a left-wing issue.
But we don't like to have cancer in our babies.
You take the military-industrial complex censoring our media, censoring Twitter.
Well, when they're censoring CDC, that's a left-wing issue.
When they're censoring The election, that's a right-wing issue, but it's the same censorship.
And I think that Trump has demonstrated that he is enough of a tough SOB to stand up to the deep state.
And I think that his toughness, his strength, his resiliency are really very important.
And I think the Kennedy vote in the democratic process, democratic primary, is increasingly going to go to Trump because he is the only opponent of the deep state.
peter navarro
So you don't, if you're a betting man, you don't think Biden is going to be the nominee at the end of the day?
Who will be and will that person be a bigger or lesser threat to Trump?
unidentified
Well, right now we have the consultant community of pollsters, media creators, time buyers.
There's a new consultant community for Biden.
Taxidermists and ventriloquists.
I've got plastic surgeons.
He's passed that.
Taxidermists.
And the Democratic Party is all committed to the idea that the emperor has no clothes.
And they're all committed to that.
And anybody who breaks rank is apostate and is expelled.
That can't last.
As this guy slips further and further behind, you have to, at some point, decide you want someone who can speak a sentence.
And I think that at some point they're going to force him to say he's not running again.
They won't make him resign because they can't have Kamala Harris.
peter navarro
I think the way they'll do it is the Hunter Biden issue.
And the same people like the FBI and the DOJ who are terrorizing Trump and folks like me and Steve Bannon will turn on The irony is Trump got indicted, but the guy who's under investigation and losing votes is Biden.
unidentified
So I believe that the Democratic nomination will be open.
And the first question is, will Michelle run?
And if she were to, she would win the nomination in a heartbeat and Biden would have to pull out.
Being a black candidate for president in 2024 is a lot harder than it was in 2008 or 2012, because then you had only to deal with the issue of ethnicity and latent bigotry.
Now you have to deal with reparations, critical race theory, quotas for people of color, anti-white quotas.
You have to deal with a range of policies that will enrage the non-black vote.
peter navarro
What if she does triangulation, if I may?
unidentified
But she can't, because she can't turn on her own constituency.
Do you favor $300,000 checks to every man, woman, and child who's black in America?
The Hispanics aren't going to like that.
The Asians aren't going to like that.
The whites aren't going to like that.
And she can't get off of that, because she's dependent on her base.
peter navarro
Do people remember how bad a job Obama did?
unidentified
No.
No, they don't, really.
It's not worth bringing it to mind.
You beat her with future issues.
You beat her because you force her to choose between her base and the swing voters, and she can't make that choice.
So I think what's going to happen is there are three wings in the Democratic Party.
There's the establishment, which will probably go with Booty Jack.
peter navarro
60 seconds, by the way.
unidentified
There's the left, which will probably go with Warren or Sanders.
Maybe AOC.
Interesting.
What happened to that guy in California?
Gavin Newsom?
I'm sorry, he's in the left.
And by the way, if it all deadlocks, coming down from the sky with angels' wings, maybe Mrs. Hillary Clinton.
Oh, I think that's the place to lay there, baby.
Dick Morris, Hillary Angel Wings.
All right.
peter navarro
Hey, it's great to be with you.
I want to recommend highly The Return by Dick Morris in this new book coming out.
The Biden crime family, I think you know the drill on that.
Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
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And Posse, you were the ones doing that.
So I appreciate you staying with me for the hour.
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