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July 17, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon
Okay, it's Monday, 17 July in the year of our Lord 2023.
I've got Caroline Wren, the Caroline Wren, who's joined me in studio.
Wanted Libby to kind of stick with us, but she had to leave for the Tim Pool show.
You know, we got Bigfoot.
How you doing?
caroline wren
I'm doing great.
steve bannon
You had a great time at Akron.
You were all over the place.
caroline wren
I was.
I was supposed to be with Carrie in Iowa and the flight got cancelled.
Posobiec and I were on the same flight to Iowa.
steve bannon
This is why Posobiec didn't go out and do the... He was supposed to do the thing with Steve Deese or Glenn Beck or something?
caroline wren
Yeah, he was supposed to host with Blaze TV and then he couldn't go and so I texted the Blaze folks and said, hey, Carrie Lake's there.
They had her on and it ended up being fantastic.
She did a great job there.
And then it was great to stay back because the Turning Point conference was just terrific.
I thought it was such a MAGA, you know, crowd there, which I'm seeing some of the DeSantis folks now push back and say, oh, you know, it was just an, of course, you know, Trump did well in the straw poll.
It's just a MAGA event.
I thought to myself, you know, What about CPAC?
Thousands of people there, whole conference, 90% straw poll to Trump.
Then you have this one too.
So what conference is it that a straw poll that DeSantis would win?
steve bannon
A Chamber of Commerce conference?
Are they dissing MAGA?
caroline wren
Oh yeah, of course.
It's these internet trolls.
I mean, the DeSantis campaign at this point is about nine remaining hedge fund donors and then like four very online fake Twitter personalities.
That's about the whole coalition.
steve bannon
Yeah, no, it's really, he's out of money, we're not getting into all that.
You are very big on the Western states and the Intermountain West.
You're saying, hey, if you're going to look, and you see this article today, Leading the Hill, where they've got the Lions and the GOP Senate are very upset about this populist conservatism.
And they think this is a problem.
You've got Murkowski, you've got the same crew, Thune, all these guys, you know, with knitted brows saying this is a problem.
Of course they put out Seeing how successful Sound of Freedom is in its second weekend, now at $85 million, they put out their own four-minute... Yeah, get that up.
Just hold that right there.
So the Hill newspaper has this huge piece that literally is the... Trent Skaggs, Rosendale, Cary Lake, and people like that in Ohio, across the country, are going to be a problem.
And they're going to be a problem, not because they can't win.
They're saying, not because they can't win, because they're going to shake up the old guard there.
caroline wren
For me personally, I've been very more looking at what is going on in the states and leave D.C.
alone, until you know it changed it for me.
As I'm looking at what Senator Tommy Tuberville is doing right now, single-handedly standing up and stopping, you know, mass abortion from being allowed in our own military, and it reminded me that, geez, in the Senate you really can stand up and be a hero, and there's so few Republican Senators who do that.
You have Rand Paul, Mike Lee, now you have Tommy Tuberville, we brought in, you know, J.D.
Vance, but they need reinforcements.
It's a handful.
And so really, I actually met Trent this weekend for the first time, but I've been hearing about him from some of my conservative friends saying, you got to talk to him.
And I was just so impressed with him.
And because taking down the Romney dynasty is, I mean, probably one of the most important things we could do in the 2024 cycle.
I think he is the guy to do it.
I was very impressed when I talked to him.
He has a great, just conservative backing and a great story to tell.
But it is going to be hard to take out the Romneys.
We've learned this.
It's hard to take out incumbents.
And so we really hope he steps up and is able to do it.
I think he's going to.
He's in the race.
And if Romney ends up not running, then they're going to recruit some Romney-lite to be in there.
And Trent has got to be the one that we get into the United States Senate there.
And then with Rosendale, you and I have talked a lot about this.
Talk about a conservative warrior.
And I talked a lot with Matt Gaetz and others about him this weekend.
He's a Freedom Caucus member and others.
And he really is, I mean, he is the type that he does not care what people think about him, which is what you want.
steve bannon
He's with the Magnificent Six.
He will not back off.
And of course obviously there's a huge article about Kerry saying out in Iowa that if she runs for the Senate she's going to win the Senate seat, right?
So she's stoned down pretty.
I understand she's still going through the legal issues.
They just had another filing the other day on the stealing of this governorship.
Trent Skaggs did something very unique.
You had a, and this is to the credit of Charlie Kirk and the Turning Point team, I have never seen, and I go to these conferences for years, I have never seen A concentration of speakers that are in the moment and leading edge, whether it's the Senate, the House, activists, media.
It's all over.
That's okay, guys.
We can just mute the phone.
Thanks, producer.
The Palm Beach studios are getting up now to the war room standards.
Go ahead, take the call, who cares?
But Skaggs stood up there on a stage that included Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Donald J. Trump, He had one of the most dominant performers ever.
He asked me, who's this guy from Utah that kind of showed up and took over the stage?
Trent, you're with us.
Tell us about the speech and more importantly, tell us about what are you going to do differently?
You know, Romney, you know, he's a big supporter.
Anytime he's up there with an omnibus bill or a spending package, he's trying to be a DC uniparty elite and get along with the Georgetown social set.
What are you going to do differently?
unidentified
Well, quite a bit.
You know, I mentioned the moment that Mitt Romney voted for that debt deal, that horrible deal.
I tweeted out, look, there's another four trillion reasons why you should vote for me over Romney.
Right.
He just has zero regard at all for the budget.
It's out of control.
Thirty two trillion dollars in debt.
I mean, to me, that's the height of immorality to place that on my children, on successive generations.
We need to get serious about that.
I was very disappointed that Mitt Romney wouldn't even sign on to the letter that Mike Lee authored in the first week of May.
He put something together to Biden and said, we are not as Republican senators going to raise the debt ceiling unless we get substantial budget reforms and spending cuts.
And 42 other Republicans signed that to include Mitch McConnell, yet Mitt Romney was nowhere near that.
He wouldn't put his name to it.
It's just baffling to me.
So I will actually stand up.
I will be a supporter of initiatives like that with Senator Lee.
We will push back big time on spending.
I have to do that as a mayor here.
I have to balance my budget and have done it every year for the last 10 years.
We have to do it in our respective households.
Just absolutely ridiculous.
The situation that the establishment here has put us in.
Yeah, Trent, let me ask you.
steve bannon
I think about, we were talking because we stay very close to our sponsors.
I think something like a third of our sponsors, 25% of our sponsors here in the War Room are based in Utah.
Or like the Angel.com studio guys are from Utah.
I think they live in Idaho now.
Those people are not just entrepreneurs.
They are nuts and bolts.
You know, we got to have a balanced budget, entrepreneurs.
What do folks in Utah think?
Is the word getting out that Mitt Romney supports giving the Biden regime $15 trillion, when he added $14 or $15 trillion of spending over two years with a minimum, a minimum of a $4 trillion deficit, minimum of new $4 trillion Federal Reserve printed money.
And it could be much higher than that.
And the Utahns don't get anything to say about it until after the presidential election of 2024.
What does the average citizen out there think about that?
unidentified
Oh, they're, they're just really disgusted by it.
They really are.
And they're getting wise to Romney.
You asked me where, where their feelings are, attitudes towards him.
Look, he's dropped 11 points in the polls since we entered the race.
He's now down in the 40% range in terms of favorability.
Amongst all Utahns, and that includes Democrats, where we know he has a 75% plus approval rating.
So we're really getting after it.
We're showing folks his record, uh, what he promised to do just five years ago with respect to balancing the budget, ending illegal immigration, uh, stopping federal spending and overreach and appointing conservative justices and, and his true record, what he promised and what he's, he's actually done is completely opposite.
It's not what Utahns want.
And the more we get around the state, we are hearing that time and time again.
Oh my gosh, we need to get Mitt Romney out of office, replace him with somebody who is truly conservative, who is actually going to stand up and fight, who's got a backbone.
I have demonstrated that in the last 10 years in elected office.
People know what they're going to get with me.
I not just, I don't just talk the talk, but I walk the walk and people have seen it with everything with respect to me saying, no, I was one of the few mayors in this state that said absolutely not the mask mandates to vaccine mandates.
When Biden tried to do that through OSHA, um, I have stood up and said, absolutely not.
I've actually cut taxes in my community, always balanced our budget and have innovated to lower the cost of government and improve services here.
That's what we need to take to Washington.
Somebody that's got that demonstrated record that's going to stand up for Utah.
steve bannon
Trent, before I let you go, you got to help me out here, because can we put up the original state flag?
I want to put the original state flag.
Utah and the Patriots out there, one of the most amazing stories in all of America, you know, but of many, all the states got these incredible origin stories.
You look at that state flag.
It is beautiful.
You've got 1847 when the Mormons first arrived, you've got what at the bottom, you've got when you became a state, you've got the old glory cross, you've got that beautiful shield industry, and it is a magnificent, you know, the American eagle, it is a magnificent representation of the history of the country and the traditions we stand.
Can we please show the new state flag?
When I first heard about this, Now it's taken, I guess, the beehive from the middle.
What in the hell is going on?
Please tell me, Trent, that that is not the official state flag.
That, what I'm looking at, did not replace the magnificent historic flag of the state of Utah.
unidentified
Yeah, it's actually set to replace.
I think the law that they passed in the last year, we have a 45-day legislative session here in Utah, runs from January to March.
What they pass is I think that does take effect this coming March.
But there is an effort by the people.
There's a groundswell of opposition.
I know from many folks that are petitioning this, they're signing a referendum.
I think they need 150,000 signatures or so to actually place this on the ballot and determine if that's truly what Utah wants, right?
If they want to adjust to this new flag.
But yes, that was That was something that was passed by the legislature this past year, and with all that we have going on, it's a little curious why that's been such a focus.
caroline wren
In addition to having Romney, who's terrible, I will say Utah is one of the worst governors in the country.
steve bannon
That governor's a screwball.
caroline wren
He's awful.
And that's why, that's what really attracted me to Mayor Saggs first, is he fought him hard on the mask mandates and all these different things.
And so you're up against a lot, but I think you can overcome it.
And the War Room can definitely help to do that.
steve bannon
I think it's Jonathan Martin.
They got Jonathan Martin, I think from the New York Times, now over at Politico, wrote a huge piece this weekend about the National Governors Association, which has become so left-wing.
And the only Republican governor who showed up as the vice chairman is the governor from Utah.
And he's there with my old buddy from Goldman Sachs, Phil Murphy.
Phil's running for president to be the most progressive governor in the country in Bradenbeck and Newsom in New Jersey.
And it's talked about them, and it's just radical policies.
Trent, where do people go to find out more about you?
Where do they find out more about this campaign?
Because I can tell you the War Room Cadre, the War Room Posse, are not big fans of Mitt Romney's.
So they're definitely looking for somebody that could become a viable alternative.
So where do they go to find out more about you?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
We'll take them all.
Trentstags.com.
S-T-A-G-G-S.
Trentstags.com.
They can go there.
They can donate.
Help volunteer.
You know, I've been very humbled.
We've probably, I think, received at last count donations from people across 45, 46 states.
So it's not just Utah, you know, as we were talking earlier.
Yes, Utahns want to see a conservative, a true conservative there replacing Mitt Romney, but it is important for the country as a whole.
We get one more conservative and you add to a Mike Lee, to an Eric Schmidt, to a JD Vance, to Ryan Paul.
These folks that are going to push back And actually fight the establishment and bring in the type of true conservative policies that we need.
Just to have one more added there is going to be a huge, huge move for this country in the right direction.
So ask for all of your support.
steve bannon
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
I want everybody to go to the site.
Grayson, Moe, if you can put it up.
Mayor Staggs from Riverton, Utah.
I got to tell you, a command performance yesterday on the, on the stage at, at Turning Point ActCon.
So it was just incredible.
Thank you for joining us this morning.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
steve bannon
This is the power of what Charlie and the team at Turning Point have put together.
They provide a platform.
You can have breakouts.
It used to be what the RNC convention used to be.
You can have a moment now, and stags, people sit there, and the whole buzz was, who is this guy?
And, man, because Rami's done such a terrible job.
Okay, short commercial break.
When we're back, Caroline Wren is going to be my wingman for the rest of the hour.
We've got a lot to go through.
We're going to talk about Fox Republicans.
We're going to talk about donors.
We're going to talk about deconstructing the administrative state, the state of the race.
Maybe Mitt Romney.
I think Mitt Romney may be running for president or third party.
We'll talk about that.
Short commercial break.
Back in the war room.
Just a moment.
unidentified
Spread the word all through Hong Kong.
steve bannon
We will fight till they're all gone.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP.
mike lindell
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
steve bannon
Okay, what is the state of our economy?
What is stagflation?
Stagflation is when you have low GDP growth.
You know, the last decades, like in Japan, with 1 to 2 percent growth.
Right now, it's going to be 1.1 to 1.5 percent.
You've got high interest rates, you've got high inflation, you have decrease in real wages because, you know, interest rates and inflation are higher than nominal wage growth.
So you've got all that combination.
What does that lead to?
A drop in purchasing power.
Since the Biden regime has come in 17%, well, the third world nations that control resources are not going to tolerate it.
That's why in Durban, On the 22nd of August, they're having a massive conference for a couple of days to come up.
It's like the Bretton Woods of the 21st century.
They're going to come up with an alternative to the US dollar.
And they've already announced it's going to be somehow backed by gold.
Not convertible into gold, but backed by gold.
This is why you need to go to birchgold.com right now slash Bannon to get the summary we've put together the end of the dollar empire.
You need to be up to speed on this de-dollarization movement.
You need to be up to speed on what it means when the central banks in the world of buying gold as fast as they can in 2022 and 2023.
So check it out.
We're on the path and the road to Durban for this Durban pact or Durban Accords or whatever you call it.
We're going to be all over this.
I'm getting the Birch Gold guys, Philip Patrick, back on in the next couple of days.
Actually, Dave Brat's going to join us hopefully tomorrow when we're back in studio.
Dave Brat's going to break down.
Paul Krugman's saying, no, no, no, this de-dollarization movement is not that big a deal.
What is, it's a huge deal.
And now the third world nations that control the resources are coming for us.
So make sure you go to birchgold.com slash Bannon to get it all.
And when you're there, have Philip Patrick and the guys talk to you about the IRAs and everything you need to know about precious metals, gold and silver.
Caroline Wren, thank you for joining us.
A couple things.
Carried Lake couldn't make it because of the transportation.
The East Coast has been a disaster.
People can't get flights out of here.
People were delayed.
People couldn't get down here.
She had, it was kind of providential, it would have been great to have Bisovic, but it was quite providential that Carrie Lake was in Iowa anyway.
It's kind of a surrogate for Trump.
caroline wren
Yeah.
steve bannon
DeSantis is there for a couple of days, I guess, Casey DeSantis is there with her mamas for DeSantis.
Carrie's out there, because she's an Iowa girl, out there, she was invited to so many things, she's doing it, and then it turned out, because of travel, because of the problem of getting there, Jack couldn't get out there.
I don't think you could get out there, but Carrie was there and so she substituted.
Tell us about the evangelical conference and what happened to that.
caroline wren
Thank you Pete Buttigieg for being just terrible and canceling those flights because it did work out well.
Carrie was planning to go to Iowa and she was going to do a couple of events to sort of bracket.
There's something called the family leader.
Bob Vander Plaats is the head of that.
Vander Plaats likes to consider himself the king of the evangelical, you know, Christian vote in Iowa.
Really he tends to go with people that give to his foundation and that's how his decisions seem to be made and so he was hosting this summit.
Whoa!
steve bannon
Shots fired.
caroline wren
Claimed they invited Trump.
It was, it seems like a hostile type of invitation.
He had a scheduling conflict anyway, but you had all the different candidates come and they had Tucker Carlson be the one to interview them, which was hilarious because he basically just, you know, destroyed all of them.
steve bannon
But he didn't do it in mean spirit.
He was asking, here's the key thing, he was asking questions you would hear in the war room every day.
And the audience, you could tell, and I say this, the audience 100% knew what he was talking about and understood the direction of the question.
The political class, and this was Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, they're sitting there like they've never heard these concepts before.
I think Tim Scott, and by the way, just some free advice to Senator Scott, he's a good guy.
You've got to stop.
It's a nervous tick when you just give some BS answer and pivot away with a happy smile.
It's not going to work.
If you want to be President of the United States, if you want to be Vice President of the United States, when a guy asks you a question, you've got to deal with the question.
He had a question on immigration, all of it.
Tucker asked these.
It ended the limited career Mike Pence still had in front of him.
And that's his audience.
I mean, it was absolutely embarrassing.
The questions in Ukraine, J6, all of it.
caroline wren
Yeah, I think Tim Scott, to me, was the worst performance in that I expected him to do well.
Iowa, he's taking his entire race on Iowa.
That's where you would think he would connect, but gosh, there was no connection there at all.
I think they all did very poorly.
Vivek did okay.
But, you know, the funny part is, so this conference, though, they would not even allow Trump to send a surrogate.
In fact, I read something about how they wanted JD Vance to go, and they said, absolutely no, no MAGA allowed inside this building.
And so Blaze TV was the co-host and they were the ones who were kind of, they were doing live coverage of it and doing live analysis.
And it was Glenn Beck and Steve Deese.
And so Jack Posobiec was going to go and be the co-host and that was sort of going to be the MAGA voice. And so they, I'd actually reached out and asked if Carrie could attend the event and they'd said, no, again, no MAGA surrogates. And so behind their backs, we booked her to be the, take Posobiec's place. So Vanderplatte says, no idea Carrie Lake is walking into this.
steve bannon
Oh, I didn't know that.
caroline wren
Nor do the DeSantis people.
So they just all melt down.
steve bannon
Stop, you had Nike in the band?
caroline wren
Oh yeah, so yeah, no.
steve bannon
Such a Caroline Wren move.
caroline wren
Oh, it was total.
steve bannon
Hold it. So what happened when Carrie Lake walked in?
caroline wren
Oh, the DeSantis team has a meltdown because they weren't told.
Well, no one was.
I mean, literally the only people that knew this was happening basically at this point was Glenn Beck.
And even, you know, Steve Deese is a guy who's not super pro-Trump, right?
He's been against it.
But he ended up even tweeting out, I have to say something.
Carrie Lake was so impressive and gracious to me and my wife.
She served the former president well today because Carrie is just...
So it'd be the best thing, because Carrie would end up being on air for two hours bracketing a live time of these people's speeches.
And she was a rock star in there, right?
There were mobs following her.
She would have the press riser.
So that's just some fun behind-the-scenes baseball of how that came about.
And then she did an event at Mad Meatball afterwards, where she took some good swipes at DeSantis.
steve bannon
Let's see, I want to get to the Santos thing in a second, but I want to go back and just the poor performance.
How can their staffs, and this is very important, and I think if people can go watch the clips of what Tucker did.
Tucker's questions were very fair.
The things we talk about in War Room every day, things were on Tucker's show.
You would think, guys would think, hey, Tucker was the highest rated show.
War Room, Real America's Voice, you got Charlie Kirk, you got Posobiec.
Maybe I'll at least get, maybe I'll at least understand what the issues are.
It was like they had never heard these things in their life.
I mean, you see the gap between what I call the Fox Republicans and the base of this party.
caroline wren
Yeah, I just think that everyone's performance was pretty poor, but there's no appetite.
These people are running in a campaign that they think is 2012, and we are in 2022, so I don't know what answers they're able to give because they don't believe the philosophy that I believe that 70% of this party now believes, and so they're just being left behind inherently.
And so they have no business running for president at this point.
It's very strange to me that really any of these are, but Vec is the only one who at least has interesting things to say, and I think is bringing dialogue to the primary that is important and ideas that are important.
But otherwise, there's just no appetite for anyone else.
And then DeSantis is saying just nothing of interest, and he looks like he is having a root canal.
Every single campaign event he does, he's uncomfortable with media, he is uncomfortable with donors, he's uncomfortable with the grassroots.
And so I don't know what he is comfortable with, but he looks like he is having a very terrible time and he should do the right thing, get out, endorse President Trump, work his butt off to get him elected.
And then maybe in 2028, people would then be willing to look at him again as someone who was a conservative governor.
Maybe it'd be a different time after President Trump has four more years to finish unfinished business.
But we are crossing that line to where there will be no coming back for him.
There will be no forgiveness, and so that's what I think DeSantis should do.
steve bannon
You're our expert on all things donors.
How did donors get it so wrong?
Because now you see they're pushing, you know, Murdoch's out there with the Billionaires and Sun Valley.
And there couldn't be worse timing for DeSantis.
You know, once they get it in their mind, the guy's a loser.
You can't come back.
So they're already talking.
He's leaking to the New York Times.
Youngkin's the guy that we ought to take a look at.
They've got Kemp.
Tim Scott's going to have his moment.
How do the donors get it so wrong?
For these guys that made so much, the Ken Griffiths of the world, the Schwarzmans of the world, consistently, every cycle, they get it wrong.
It's that they're so locked into the neoliberal, neocon mindset.
I mean, you know these guys.
How do they always get it so wrong?
caroline wren
I think that the donors used to have way more control over the Republican nominee than they used to.
I mean, it was, you know, the Bush donor class.
Then you had the Romney sort of donor and bundling class.
And McCain struggled a little bit with donors, but was able to kind of bring in all that group there at the end.
And the donors largely did decide who our nominees were in these parties.
And that has changed, though, since, I think, the change of alternative media and different things.
You cannot just buy elections anymore.
You see these self-funders do not know.
You saw Kelly Craft try to buy the election in Kentucky.
You see Dana Corbett try and buy an election in Pennsylvania.
It is difficult to do it now because the people are awake and they're not just getting their information on politics from Fox News and television ads.
We're in a new time and so money is diminishing in power in our politics and thus the donors are diminishing in power.
They've always been this way.
They've always kind of wanted these The cocktail party Republicans, the hedge funds, the guys that they identify with, and right now I think that they are a little bit lost in their spending and what to do because I think they see DeSantis imploding and they don't seem to want to fund these other folks and they're hesitant to come in with Trump and so I think that we're all just sort of in this stalemate with the donor class.
steve bannon
DeSantis.
Here's what I don't understand.
He has a terrible run, polls are dropping, they send him out, and his team says, attack the media, which has been loving to him, and attack, I've raised more money than everything, and I don't really know the details of this like you do, but I look and I go, his numbers are pretty horrific.
In fact, if you look at that, between the transfers and all that, he's running out of cash.
And not just that, the small donors are nothing, and they're getting smaller.
The last thing I would do is say, look at my money.
Now it's been revealed.
Is the campaign almost insolvent on really the federal money to actually run a primary campaign?
caroline wren
Well, yesterday Politico reported, actually, that they fired 10 people on the campaign side because they burned through a ton of cash.
It was unbelievable.
You know, Biden, you know how much he spent?
$1 million on staff and different things.
I think DeSantis was $9 million.
And it's the same thing that we saw with Scott Walker.
Remember, Scott Walker brought all of this staff on, had all this money in, and you burned through cash fast.
You saw the same thing with Jeb Bush.
Jeb Bush was able to raise $100 million quickly into that super PAC, but then the campaign dollars are more difficult.
And so I think that's what's happening with DeSantis.
unidentified
Wow.
caroline wren
And so they cut, slashed a bunch of their staff on the campaign side.
Also, I mean, what is this staff doing?
How hard is it to go staff 11 people that show up to a Ron DeSantis event in Iowa?
They would show up with 15 staff and 11 people show up for the event.
So it was a smart move, I think, to shed staff.
But I think that he raised 120 million on the Super PAC side.
87 million of that was a transfer.
I think 15 million from a guy, Robert Bigelow.
So really it was an anemic number.
I was expecting 200 million.
That's really what I thought was gonna come out of there.
Because earlier months ago, you were saying in articles, Ken Griffin, Steve Schwarzman, basically you're getting blank checks from me.
Those checks never, they ended up being very blank.
They didn't come in.
steve bannon
Okay, short commercial break.
Caroline Wren, we're going to go through this.
We're going to talk about Romney.
We've got a lot to go through.
Talk about the politics of the donor class and President Trump's campaign.
And also, is it time now for Ron DeSantis?
He's a tragic figure having He drank the Kool-Aid of Rupert Murdoch.
Is it now time for him to punch out and to go back to Florida and go to work?
Short break, back in a moment.
unidentified
You know you had Glenn Beck and the Blaze TV guys did the wall to wall coverage at the
steve bannon
Evangelical conference out in Iowa.
I want to really give a hat tip to Parker and Rob Sigg and the Real America Voice team, both in Denver and Palm Beach.
Wall-to-wall coverage, and particularly Ed Henry.
Ed Henry, I think, did like 20 hours of coverage.
Just a complete Iron Man.
I was worn out from the two hours live we did on Saturday morning and then meetings in the speech, but I got to tell you, Ed and these guys, wall-to-wall coverage is fantastic.
Also, I want to make sure it's something the audience understands.
If you go to Ralph Reed's Faith and Freedom, If you go to Tiffany Justice and Tina Deskovitz's and all the other Moms for Liberty, and there were tons of Moms for Liberty at the Charlie Kirk conference, go to that speech, another Trump speech, two hour, hour and a half, and you go to the Trump speech here.
And Trump's was not a rally speech.
And tell me, this is a jacked up crowd.
He very easily could have gone in rally mode.
He's not.
These are three speeches, and I say they're of a piece because they're talking about topics about the Judeo-Christian West in the direction of the American Republic.
Not once, and this is now three and a half, four and a half, five hours of speeches live to key audiences, Ralph Reed's Evangelicals, the Moms for Liberty in Philadelphia, and Charlie Kirk's Atcon and the Turning Point Atcon of the Actors, three different audiences, the most cutting edge and powerful groups in the Republican Party conservative movement, bar none.
Rupert Murdoch's Fox News, Insults.
Not Donald J. Trump insults you.
They don't want you to see this.
They don't want you to see this.
So the right side broadcasting, to Glenn and the team over there, to Real America's Voice, to all the people who have been live streaming this, hats off to you.
You're at the cutting edge.
And this is why people are disgusted.
This is why they're disgusted with the establishment.
This is why they're disgusted by the donors.
And quite frankly, they're disgusted by the foreigners.
You know, we fought a revolution to get our control from the British to the Americans.
I don't know why we're having a bunch of Brits, you know, slash Australians, Commonwealth.
We love the Aussies, right?
Murdoch's not part of that.
He's out there in Sun Valley right now with the Bayonets, with the families on the Amalfi Coast.
The last time real Americans were down there, when Mark Clark's army was fighting up the The boot of Italy to drive the Nazis out back in the 1940s.
That's what real Americans know.
You should be at Myrtle Beach.
You should be at Daytona Beach.
You should be at Imperial Beach, Virginia Beach, or the Ozarks, Branson, Missouri, or somewhere where folks called Americans are.
This is a foreign-owned entity and they turn out Fox Republicans.
Fox Republicans are globalists in the anti-populist nationalist movement.
There's a lot going on.
I got Caroline Wren here, one of the top thinkers in this area.
Okay.
Everybody's talking about these third parties and they're focused on Cornel West.
And by the way, Cornel West is one of the smartest guys in this country.
Now, I don't agree with his policies.
He did invite me to Harvard to address his class one time.
We just couldn't work out the dates.
He's a guy that he'll bring fire breathers in there because he's a firebrand.
Don't think he's not a smart guy.
He's putting forward an argument, particularly the African-American men, and the Biden regime is rattled by this.
Right?
But I think even bigger, and nobody's focused on it, is No Labels.
And No Labels is not going to be Joe Manchin.
I think if you see what these guys... Walk me through what No Labels is, how important it is, particularly to get on ballots.
caroline wren
No Labels was founded in, gosh, I want to say 2004 or something like that, but it was a group.
It's run by a woman, Nancy, who, to me, I think it's a big fundraising group.
steve bannon
Wasn't Mark helping the guy?
caroline wren
He's still involved in it too.
steve bannon
The bush guy with the funny hat.
caroline wren
Yeah, and it was meant to be a bipartisan group that was just focused on solutions.
And since then, they've been able to raise a tremendous amount of money.
And in fact, they announced a $70 million effort to put a third-party slate of tickets in different states that they're having to petition on to ballots.
Now, I have not really been in panic mode about this, because the left is in absolute panic mode.
If you go listen to Pod Save America or The Bulwark and these folks, Charlie Sykes is about to just, I mean, have a full-blown meltdown over no labels.
They believe that it will take votes away from Joe Biden because if you're going to go and vote against Donald Trump, which that's always our argument, is that 81 million people voted against Donald Trump, nobody voted for Biden.
It's a hybrid of that and the fact that they stole a number of the votes.
But So any vote that doesn't go to Biden, it goes to a third party is going to hurt and actually help Trump.
I kind of agree with the left on this.
So I've been leaving the no labels effort alone a little bit and letting them hang themselves.
In fact, Republicans should be thinking smartly like this and we should be petitioning on and have a green party candidate in every single state because that pulls votes away from- Jill Stein.
Yes, exactly.
And that is ways that we could be... I mean, the Republican Party is famous at doing nothing, so I don't know where that will happen.
So I've not been in panic mode on no labels except for one state, and that's Utah.
steve bannon
I'm in panic mode because Mitt Romney... I don't see Mitt Romney running against Trent Staxx.
I see Mitt Romney, when the official biography comes out, McKay Coppins, who's an assassin.
Now he's doing a biography of Mitt Romney, and all of a sudden I've heard over the last year, Mitt Romney is now working with this biography, it's going to be kind of authorized, and he's taking the covers off the guns, they're going to unload on people, and people are talking about he might actually step down.
When you look at the pattern of where they're getting on the ballots, All of a sudden, you don't think Joe Manchin, you think Mitt Romney.
And that's Mitt Romney's call to save the country from Trump.
caroline wren
I think that he's a spoiler in other states if he does it, but there's one problem and that's Utah.
If they are somehow able to have the third party candidate there and pull off a win for, let's say, Romney in Utah as president, that is six electoral votes that Trump loses, because that's a solid R state that we are going to win.
You take those six electoral votes and we're in a tight race, then that could swing the election.
So I actually think that's the secret play that they're doing that we have to watch.
steve bannon
By the way, it's Utah with Romney, but also It's Nevada.
If Romney's on a ticket, Nevada's gone.
As hard as Nevada would be for us right now, you put Romney on the ticket as a third-party candidate, how do you win Nevada?
Arizona now, which I think Trump will win, you put Romney on the ticket, you get to the Kerry-Lake problem.
Idaho.
Even Idaho, Trump will win, but you've got to spend time and resources.
The Intermountain West is not where Donald Trump should be spending a lot of time.
He should be spending time in Michigan, in Wisconsin, in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, right?
The blue curtain.
They're working a strategy right now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I've been saying this for a while, and people say, no, it's Joe Manchin.
I said, Joe Manchin's not going to do anything against Donald Trump.
The whole no labels thing is to stop Donald Trump, not Joe Biden, correct?
caroline wren
That's what they claim.
But again, all the Democrat operatives would claim that they are in absolute meltdown panic mode about it.
Because I do think that people are voting.
You have such a strong candidate in Donald Trump that you're voting for or against him.
And I do think that these people, if they're willing to go vote for Mitt Romney, they weren't going to vote for Trump.
Except for the state of Utah, where I think it's a problem.
When No Labels is petitioning on to become, they're becoming an official party.
This is a problem down ballot for sure, because they will be able to field a Senate candidate, a presidential candidate, a state house candidate.
I mean, it is a party in these states they're coming on.
So this is where you see, I think, that they're going to try and play some games.
This is the Sinema question.
Does Sinema go on to the No Labels ticket for the Senate in Arizona?
She's already claimed that she's an independent.
So does she petition on as an independent, or does she join the No Labels ticket and run in that third way?
You know, and then in other states where they, I think it's Alaska they've gone on, I think that has to do with a play with Murkowski, because you're on for eight years, so this actually will, it could be a longer play that they're doing.
Colorado is one that they did.
Oregon, you're seeing it in the West, so I do think it has to do with a play with the Mormon community, all the states that they're petitioning onto have to do with that, and John Huntsman is actually the co-chair, I believe, of No Labels, along with Joe Lieberman.
They were just in New Hampshire talking about this and saying why this is, Hold on, hang on.
steve bannon
They both went to New Hampshire together?
caroline wren
Yes.
steve bannon
Walk me through that.
Because they'd be a very logical ticket, but that ticket I think would hurt Biden even worse than Trump.
caroline wren
I agree.
I hope that is what it is.
I was listening to a podcast this morning with Jim Psaki talking with Tim Miller and Sarah Longwell about it, and Psaki was saying the same thing.
Her biggest fear is that they are going to field a no-labels ticket.
That does not pull from Trump.
I believe it pulls from Biden.
For right now I don't want to switch into panic mode.
steve bannon
Mitt Romney believes he's a historic figure.
He thinks he's been thwarted.
That's why he voted to remove Trump from office in the Senate twice.
He thinks he's a historic figure.
He believes in his own warmth thinking.
That he can come back and resign from the Senate and run and save the nation from a second Trump term.
And he's seen now how we're going to take on the deconstruction of the administrative state.
Let me pivot quickly.
Because you know about donors.
The Sound of Freedom, and you're going to join us in Bedminster.
Carrie Lake's going to be in Bedminster.
This is a phenomenon, but it's showing this problem we've got with human trafficking.
The Senate GOP comes out and puts out a four-minute video.
It's got Cornyn asking a knitted brow, asking tough questions.
All of a sudden, they're all over the Sound of Freedom.
And at the end, you've got a fundraising thing.
How callous is that?
caroline wren
I had dinner with Eduardo last night and some of the team from Sound of Freedom and it is just amazing to be hearing about one I didn't really understand much about the production company and how neat it is that it's crowdsourcing that all that I said who's so who they're about to hit a hundred million dollars can you imagine they scrapped together the money about eight years ago to make this thing I said wow who's making the money on that he said the investors as people gave five bucks to they crowdsourced how to make this film which is how we should be should be doing our politics right now by the way.
And so the people are going to end up making money off of this and then they're also starting a few different foundations to actually fight and combat this.
But really what should happen is that these members of Congress should get together and actually allocate funding to help stop this.
And there are people, you know, Eduardo is such a great thought leader, Tim Broward's brilliant, we're going to be with him all day Wednesday to be talking through solutions.
We brought in some others who are going to be there as well.
He did say that he went in and met with Kevin McCarthy and a few others, but every member of Congress should be asking the quip.
You should be calling your member of the Scarf and saying, have you watched this movie?
steve bannon
McCarthy says he is going to show it in the official Capitol Theater.
So that's at least one movement.
What I said on the stage yesterday is on the afternoon of the 20th of January, 2025, all these files are going to come loose, right?
And not just people who didn't do anything.
To stop this for our government.
FBI, CIA, all of it, anybody in the government that had anything to do with it and looking the other way, that's all got to come clean.
It shouldn't wait until Trump returns to office.
McCarthy and these guys should be demanding this now.
There's so much you can demand.
If these senators were so concerned about this, why did they approve the omnibus?
Why did they approve the debt ceiling deal?
Why did they approve everything that just financed this?
caroline wren
I can't even speak to why.
They are so out of touch.
They're out of touch with the fact that this movie is... My parents live up in a small town in northern Michigan, and I was there.
There's one movie theater.
It has two screenings, and they've been showing Sound of Freedom for, like, weeks, and it has sold out.
We couldn't even go see it every single day.
And now we expanded 1,000 movie theaters.
I mean, the people are awake, and they are dying to go see this, and our politicians, they're barely even talking about it.
It's just incredible to me.
Can we get Eduardo to run?
to be more solutions and ways to tell these stories about the failure of our government, the failure of not only the uniparty but the left, and then also there's a global tie to all of this. I mean the president of Mexico is complicit in all of this too and we need a new president there, we need a new president here, and... Can we get Eduardo to run? He would be an amazing president of Mexico, you think? He would be so incredible.
And, you know, I'm hearing all over about people calling for him to run.
And he would actually, it's funny, if he did, he would run as an independent because he, I was speaking to him last night, there's the party committees in Mexico are similar to ours where a lot of people just don't identify with these party committees anymore.
They don't want to be labeled within either of these parties.
They're basically the same.
They vote the same.
This is how it is in Mexico.
People want to just have someone who's authentic and is willing to speak the truth and the beliefs about what the issues are.
And so Eduardo will be up against that.
But actually I think he could be very successful.
steve bannon
And what a great president of Mexico to have for the United States to work together, not just to stop this epidemic, but so many things, this invasion of the southern border.
Soundoffreedom.com slash war room.
Go get your ticket now.
Go to the war room vertical right there.
Get it.
We're going to push this thing.
I told these guys when I saw it, I said, $200 to $250 million to the domestic box office.
They go, impossible.
I said, you wait.
The film is so well made.
That's the key.
The film is, it's not, you know, you're not going to do a favor.
When you go, it's a mesmerizing film.
unidentified
Yep.
steve bannon
That's fine.
Okay.
The footage is the footage from Akon.
Diane Taraz.
Battle Cry of Freedom takes us out.
Short commercial break.
Mike Lindell, hopefully.
Mike Lindell's over doing a beta site test for the election summit.
He's going to join Caroline Renn and I in the war room.
Short commercial break.
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steve bannon
At Charlie Kirk, by the way, Charlie follows us at noon.
At 2,000 precinct strategy, precinct committeemen there, just absolutely incredible.
They're taking the state parties back.
It's absolutely insane.
Homework assignment.
First off, Carrie Lake wins at Econ, wins the vice president poll by 30% this time, 20% at CPAC.
It's not the point, it's the slope.
Is she gaining momentum in this area?
caroline wren
Oh, that was such a shot.
Well, I didn't even know there was a straw poll and Carrie was unable to attend the event because she was out campaigning for Trump in Iowa and in Arkansas.
And then all of a sudden we start getting all these calls of Carrie won the straw poll for VP.
And it is, she is just connecting with people in a way that is so incredible.
And it is, we used to call it, say it was Carizona.
And now it is just in all 50 states.
We're getting flooded by requests to have her go and speak at all these county parties, local parties, activist groups.
And she always says, yes, she doesn't sleep.
She wants to be on the road every day.
And so she's, she's just out talking to people.
And so it is, it's always an honor to be recognized like that.
And if you don't follow the Carrie Lake war room, I recommend you should.
It's a very funny account and they put out actually, you know.
You know, wow, this is an honor to have been chosen, but unfortunately Carrie is unable to serve as governor, senator, and vice president at the same time, so we'll look into this.
steve bannon
Maybe governor and senator at the same time.
caroline wren
By the way, her book... Yeah, we're just trolling the press.
steve bannon
Her book is Unafraid.
If you want to know about Carrie Lake, get the book out from Sergio Ago on the team at Winning Team Press.
caroline wren
It's so good.
steve bannon
It's a fantastic book, Unafraid.
I'm honored to be the first guy, I think, to read the entire book when I got it and be able to comment on it.
Real quickly, homework assignment for you, because you're a killer.
The no-label thing is very mysterious.
Nobody really knows who's in back of it, how it came about, and now it's getting to be a thing.
So we'll task you for coming back at some point in time and breaking that down?
unidentified
Yep.
caroline wren
Oh, absolutely.
steve bannon
Okay, because there's something not right about this thing.
caroline wren
I agree.
There is something there.
I haven't really figured it out yet, but you always follow the money, and so we'll be looking into that.
steve bannon
The general thing is not to give a voice to the Democratic populist left.
This entire apparatus is to stop Donald Trump.
You would agree with that thesis?
caroline wren
A hundred percent.
steve bannon
Okay, fine.
People have to understand this.
When you hear all the happy talk about it and all the nervousness over the Democrats, not that it may crab sideways on Democrats, but the central thesis is to stop Trump, correct?
unidentified
Oh, by all means.
caroline wren
I mean, there's nothing more uniparty than no labels.
Literally, that is the whole purpose of that group and why it started.
steve bannon
Okay, you saw the activity we had, and I want to thank everybody.
All the War Impostors, we do these things, you see all the interaction we get into with the team that they're...
We don't want to make sure that you're not chop block.
The way you get chop block right now is to have your mortgage taken by a cyber criminal and take a second mortgage out of a couple of hundred thousand dollars.
You got to pay the principal and you got to pay these high interest rates.
Home Title Lock, quick and dirty.
Just go to the Home Title Lock site right now.
Get all the information of how either a state actor, the CCP or Russia or some other, you know, the mullahs or just criminal gangs, which they're essentially criminal gangs and you can't do it.
So make sure you just go check and take that off your plate.
You gotta check boxes here.
Make sure you get certain things off your plate.
Home title lock, do it today.
Mike Lindell, a huge debate.
We just had Libby Evans left us to go up to Tim Pool.
She's on the Tim Pool Show tonight.
You're on Friday.
The debate, Scott Pressler and Matt Brainerd are taking the, we got a ballot harvest like the Democrats.
You're taking the, you've got a solution.
You're gonna lay out part of it, but it's really gonna get laid out at the summit.
In mid-August, I think the 17th and 18th in Springfield, Missouri, we want the whole nation and the world to watch.
You're at a beta site test today.
What's your update on the beta site test?
mike lindell
Well, it's amazing, but it's August 16th and 17th, everybody.
You can check it out at LyndaleEvent.com.
Steve, I'm out here, I apologize for the background, but yeah, we're working very hard on refining the plant.
I'm so excited with what we have ready for the whole world to see.
It's never been done before, Steve.
It's never been talked about before.
So obviously it's not melting down the machines or whatever.
You know, we're going to talk about paper ballots, hand counting, which we all want.
This is what we're revealing there.
We'll secure our elections immediately.
Everybody's going to embrace it, whether you're a Democrat, Republican.
I think even the RINOs will embrace it, Steve.
No, let's not go that far.
or the Unit Party, you know.
But I'm very excited because I felt there's even more things, more ideas that have came into play here.
So the best plan in history, I believe, to secure our elections around the world, too, just got even better.
steve bannon
Talk to us about all the articles that have been about, and by the way, Mike Lindell was on fire in your speech.
The kickoff Sunday was absolutely on fire at Atcon.
But all I'm hearing in the media is, my pill is out of business, you're liquidating the company, you're selling your capital equipment.
What's going on?
mike lindell
Well, the media went into full attack when they found out about the event that we're going to reveal this plan to secure our election.
So they hadn't attacked me in 70 days.
And they couldn't resist on this.
We had an option to get rid of our retail equipment because we lost the box stores two and a half years ago.
And they just jumped on that.
Mike's going out of business.
Boy, if you talk about the elections, you're out of business.
And in reality, Steve, here's the reality.
It's our 20 year anniversary of me inventing my pillow in the summer of 2004.
And all my employees, we've had since, there's some pictures right there, the original machine, one of my sons.
And this is our anniversary, we had to invent all them boxes you see in front of the fillers.
There's our first infomercial right there, and that was in 2011.
And here we are everybody, we filmed a commercial that actually comes out on Wednesday nationwide.
All the employees wanted to get involved in over there manufacturing.
Because they're so excited to have their jobs back after the box stores cancelled them two years ago.
To have their jobs back instead of doing other things that put them in doing shipping and everything.
They're back to doing what they love.
And we're offering as a special, it's a limited edition, 20 year anniversary MyPillow for $19.98.
unidentified
They're normally $69.98.
mike lindell
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You get the best sleep in history.
Plus you're helping out all these great employees of mine that made in the USA.
And we're very happy with everything that's going on.
steve bannon
Promo code War Room.
Go there right now.
We're going to do the pregame for Mike's hit on Tim Pool on Friday.
Mike, thank you so much.
Honored to have you on here.
Where'd they go to get you, Caroline?
caroline wren
At Caroline Wren on Twitter, Gitter, and TruSocial.
steve bannon
Caroline will be with us on Wednesday as we do the rollout for Sound of Freedom up at Bedminster.
Charlie Kirk, Jack Vosobic, two hours of Charlie Kirk Nationalist Populism update on the Atcon 23.
Jack Vosobic.
Also want to thank Carly Bonet and Midnight Rider on Telegram.
Elizabeth Ravnett and Mondo on the War Room account on Telegram.
Go check them all out.
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