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July 12, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2871: Increased Defense Spending To Ukraine; Zelensky Complains
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mark mitchell
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steve bannon
20:58
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ben harnwell
01:58
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mika brzezinski
01:38
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mike johnson
04:13
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jake tapper
00:03
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jamie dimon
00:55
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You're not going to get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
Mega Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
Thanks for joining us.
Now, if you look suddenly at the Republican Party, there's a growing isolationist wing in that party.
And it's not at all clear what a future president, Donald Trump, might do in terms of American leadership.
If you're outside America, if you're, you know, I live in London, we're worried about this.
jamie dimon ▲ ● ▼
I would worry about another Trump presidency, too, by the way.
But I think There's always been an isolation element.
It took a lot to get us into World War I. It took a lot to get us into World War II. But I think if you go to Washington, D.C., when it comes to Ukraine, it's been pretty tight.
Republicans and Democrats.
So when it was needed, it was there.
And I think the other thing we have to explain to the American public is we're doing it for America.
So, of course, you have America first, meaning, you know, can you imagine someone running for president saying America second?
But we're doing this for America.
If America gets isolated, you know, if autocratic nations kind of cherry-pick the world on security and food and economics and development, finance, you know, the Chinese are all over Latin America, as they are, and Africa, and we're not there, that's a huge mistake for America.
So America should be doing this for itself.
We have to explain to the American public why it's important.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
They also managed his schedule very carefully.
mika brzezinski ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I think his staff needs to own his age.
I'm just going to be honest. I don't think they do a good job helping out the president, and I'm not talking about it like...
I'm just saying, if you are managing a president's schedule, and you are managing a president getting on stage and getting off stage and doing getting on planes and getting off planes, and yes...
He's 80. You need to be there for him.
And you need to make a pathway.
And you sure as hell better make sure he doesn't fall on a sandbag.
And I blame the staff for that.
I mean, these are the things that are going to hurt him.
These are things that are going to be played on a loop.
Okay? Let him do his job.
Let him do his speeches.
Let him work on policy.
Let him do his connections in Congress, unlike any president that we've seen.
I don't know, since Clinton.
But my God, make sure, you know, your Secret Service, you're his staff, that you were there and you're telling him what's next.
And it's not because, don't take this as, oh, he can't even get from one place to another.
When you're busy and you're on stage, and we've been on stage.
Right. I've done speeches and I'm so nervous.
I'm doing the speech. I'm trying to get it right.
And when it's done, I don't know which way to go.
And I'm looking for direction.
So do a better job because you can't have these video images of the president tripping or the president like going the wrong way.
It's not going to work in this presidency because his age is going to be a factor.
His age is going to be a factor, and it's your job to make sure he gets from one place to another.
He can handle the presidency.
You have to handle his schedule and where he goes.
It makes me mad.
jamie dimon ▲ ● ▼
The scheduling is so important.
unidentified
With every president, you have different strengths, you have different weaknesses.
On Friday I will be back in Kyiv.
Jake, please advise me, what should I tell my son?
That President Biden and NATO didn't invite Ukraine to NATO because he's afraid of Russia?
Afraid of Russia losing?
Afraid of Ukraine winning?
There are backchannel communications with Kremlin, which is a terrorist organization, to reach the Minsk-3 deal.
Should I prepare my son to be a soldier and fight Russians when he will be 18 years and 7 years?
Thank you, Jake. So, first of all, thank you for the work that you do every day to try to advance Ukraine's democracy, deepen it, to try to deal with the challenge of corruption, which continues to exist.
And I know that you have been a big champion for that.
What I would say to your son and to everyone in Ukraine is, you know, the rest of the world is in awe of the bravery and courage of every Ukrainian citizen who's standing up in the face of Russia's brutal war, its brutal aggression.
Not just those fighting on the front lines, because the front lines have extended to cities and towns across Ukraine, given the hell raining down from the skies and drones and missiles and other attacks by Russia.
I would say also that the United States of America has stepped up to provide an enormous amount of capacity to help ensure that Ukraine's brave soldiers have the ammunition, the air defense, the infantry fighting vehicles, the mine clearing equipment, and so much else to be able to effectively defend against Russia's onslaught and to take territory back as well.
And that we will continue to do that for as long as it takes.
And President Biden will stand with President Zelensky today and other partners to do exactly that, as I was describing before.
President Biden was clear and straightforward in his public comments about his perspective on the question of Ukraine and NATO. And some of what you said in your remarks...
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay. Okay.
Wednesday, 12 July, Eurovalor, 2023.
Chris Ray's in front of the judiciary.
We'll cut in and out of that.
They should be lighting him up today.
Also, the National Defense Authorization Act.
A complete total fiasco right now.
Thousands of amendments.
This ties back...
To the opening part, you know, Jamie Dimon patting you on the head.
You know, Jamie Dimon, that midget's going to run for president.
That right there, the profundity coming out of Jamie Dimon, you know, the profundity.
He's running for, you know, the Ackman and the Wall Street guys are pushing him to run for president.
I said, hey, bring it. Come on down.
Let's roll. The NDA is being, I guess the Rules Committee, whether it's even going to come to the floor, is going to have amendments.
But it's a trillion-dollar defense budget because you're paying for everything.
And this thing is so woke.
It incorporates, if it is not stopped...
It incorporates the radical ideology of wokeness, of transgenderism, and CRT, all of it is throughout this.
I think Armed Services voted it out like 57 to 1.
I mean, when you got that many Democrats cheering something on, it is got, and it's not the appropriations part, although it kind of sets the framework.
This thing has to be stopped.
It has to be slowed down. There's no need this thing's got to be voted on this week.
This is another McCarthy trying to jam it through for the defense industry.
Right there, I'm going to bring in Ben Harnwell.
Ben Harnwell is going to join us back at 6 so we can go through all the NATO, all the Ukraine.
We have Bill Gertz. He's also going to join us.
Bill Gertz has got a big update about the Chinese Communist Party's military, what's happening.
We know about the funding of that coming from Sequoia Capital and other venture capitalists.
I want to get to the Jake Sullivan.
But the key part of that, the buried lead in that is Mother Mika.
Mother Mika goes off because the enfeebled Joe Biden is now – he couldn't even make the dinner at NATO. I mean they've got to tuck him in.
He has the sundowner problem.
Folks know what that is.
And so Mother Mika is quite upset because his handlers are not there – You know, if Dr.
Joe Biden's not there with the mash peas and the peaches and the Gerber, he's got the Gerber bib on, you know, because he's going to wander around some stage somewhere.
And now she's making up this thing, sandbags.
There's no sandbags at the Air Force Academy.
The guy just tripped over his feet and fell.
Like a lot of old folks.
Ben Harnwell, Jake Sullivan.
Zelensky was just not...
Now at the end, they're like hugging and rubbing up on each other because they told him, hey, unless you start...
If you keep acting like a...
If you keep acting like you're acting, people are going to cut this money off fast.
And remember, on the NDAA, what we're also trying to do is stop the $100 billion Why do you need to take a month off in August?
Why do you take off August 1st and don't come back to September 10th?
Why do you need to do that? Why don't you stay and work?
Why is this thing all have to be rushed?
Because you've got to make your code out.
You've already booked the tickets for your overseas boondoggles.
Why is this so important?
Why do we have to do it today?
It should be broken down, discussed.
You're baking in.
With a trillion dollars of taxpayer money, this woke ideology, and not just that, it's still the same problem.
You're all over everywhere. You have too many commitments.
You're stretched too thin.
There's no focus. There's no strategy.
And you're still pumping money in.
And when Denver gets the chart up, I just want, again, there's a chart on defense spending.
Remember, NATO has an obligation.
An obligation they did in 2014 because they knew that this Ukraine thing, they were going to push Ukraine back in 2014 when the European Union instigated overthrowing a democratically elected government that was pro-Russian.
Now, I'm not saying those guys were good guys.
They were pro-Putin. They were pro-Putin guys.
But they got rid of them in a color revolution.
And then NATO stepped up.
Oh, we're going to do 2% a year.
Nobody's hit 2% a year.
I think only the Poles have hit it.
Maybe the Brits. One year.
Germany and these guys are, you know, 1.1%, 1.2%.
And if you look at it, they got all the health care in there.
They've got global warming in there.
They've got all this crap. They don't have interoperability.
They don't have maneuvers.
They don't have joint training exercises.
They're already out of ammo.
We're sending cluster bombs because we're out of ammo.
This thing is a total and complete fiasco.
Ben Harnwell, one thing I noticed at this NATO meeting, nobody talked about the spring offensive.
I never heard somebody come forward publicly and say, this is the great hunks of questionable territory that the Russians currently occupy in eastern Ukraine that were taken back in big swaths, and here's the path to victory since Zelensky is demanding it in Crimea.
Did I miss that part? You're following it full time.
I just catch snatches.
Was there anything about this, the huge spring, offensive, counter-offensive, what do you want to call it, that the American taxpayer is paying for?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Good morning, Steve. No, there wasn't.
The primary message coming out of the NATO conference after its first day yesterday was rather self-congratulatory and patting themselves on the back because Turkey had dropped its opposition.
It negotiated a blinder, by the way, but Erdogan had dropped his opposition to vetoing Sweden's entry to NATO. And that is what they were pushing.
That's what they were saying. This is the great success of our annual conference this year.
It really, Ukraine, somewhat, was the sideline.
I wonder if Denver is able to put up the photo, which I think, if a picture can express a thousand words, the photo that will come up on the screen at the moment, I think is the defining moment of this NATO conference.
I pretty much say that future historians will look back on this moment and say this is when the tide turned, publicly, visibly, in the war on Ukraine.
For a number of reasons, Steve.
I think primarily it's the fact that the United States National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, And has released in his own name, this isn't like an anonymous sort of briefing put out in the Washington Post.
This is him speaking in the first person.
And it's an astonishing, I mean, put the diplomatic balance and hedged niceties aside, it's an astonishing slap down.
And it will be seen as an astonishing slap.
I think this is fundamentally a response to President Zelensky's bitching and whining over the fact that the United States and NATO had refused Ben, this is a big moment.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We're going to have you back on.
Ben's going to join us at 6.
We're going to spend time going through this with Bill Gertz.
I've got Jim Jordan we're going to go to.
Ben, thank you very much.
We'll see you back here at 6 to go through all of it.
You'll have all the pictures up, everything, but a kind of a mini throwdown in Vilnius today, the capital of Lithuania, over all this.
And, of course, back here you've got the National Defense Authorization Act.
Okay. We're going to take a short break.
We're going to come back with...
We've got Jordan. They're starting to go at it with Ray.
We've got Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen with us to talk about the decline in the institutions in our country.
Our out music, Americana, will be Mother Maybelle Carter, a legend, with one of my favorite songs.
Here we go.
Be back in a moment.
unidentified
Your responsibility to Donald Trump for problems that are Trump's.
Trump's alone.
You might hear today about a man named Stephen D'Antuono, the former special agent in charge of the Washington field office.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Let me have it.
What you're going to have is the Democrats.
That's Nadler right there.
All day long, they're going to go back, and what they're going to use this time for is saying how great Chris Wray is, and they're going to go back to President Trump's indictment in the Mar-a-Lago, which we know is nonsense.
Mike Davis is going to join us later to go through all this, including President Trump's The request to delay the trial past the election day because of election interference.
We'll get to all the technicality of that.
As soon as Gates or one of the tough questioners come back, we'll get to it.
I want to bring in Mark Mitchell now.
Mark, we're having this huge fight right now on the National Defense Authorization Act.
The Rules Committee is in a huge fight, whether it either comes to the floor or what the rules should be, and there's over a thousand amendments to this right now.
The thing itself is rotten to its core.
Once again, it's got too much commitment in America everywhere.
It's going to bury us.
And if Denver, I think, can put up, if we have that chart that just shows defense spending is a percentage of GDP. Yeah, right there.
Put that up. The American people, for our podcast and radio audience, this is why you've got to go to worm.org and get on our email list and make sure you go and get all the charts and everything we put up.
You see there the United States over, what, 3.5% of GDP. Look at the other nations.
NATO is not an alliance.
NATO is a protectorate, okay?
Because they're not spending enough money, a minimum of 2% to defend themselves, and then to throw some in for the united defense of the North Atlantic.
They're not doing it. And because those numbers right there are even phony in of itself.
President Trump, when I was with President Trump in the White House, we fought this all the time, particularly with the Germans.
When you really look at these defense budgets, they're not really defense spending.
They got all kind of other crap thrown in there.
And even that, they don't make the 2%.
NATO's a protectorate.
You're underwriting this.
You're underwriting the entire security.
And the question's got to be why.
Why is the burden always put in the United States?
Now, the NDA, on top of it, it's got this culture of radicalness, this cult of transgender and LGBTQ ideology buried in it.
Why should you do this?
One of the worst guys in Congress is the Republican, the guy with the bad wig, right?
That is the chairman of the House Armed Services.
He was the one that was all hot and bothered during the McCarthy.
Remember that? He was coming. He had a couple of drinks.
He was coming out swinging at people.
He's got a really bad rug.
You would think, dude, with all the money the defense contractors are giving you, you could get a better rug.
Or just, you know, be bald.
Who cares? This thing's a fiasco, and of course, Patriots up there right now trying to fight it, but it gets back to this entire commitment and the institutional rot.
This is, you know, the last institution, I think, polling Mark Mitchell...
Was our military. And now you have a big problem with people that are veterans of sending their kids to the military because it's woke.
And right here you're seeing the Republican Party and Kevin McCarthy will not stand up and take a stand.
And they promise we're going to use the appropriations.
Well, here's your first fight.
Use the National Defense Authorization Act to start to get this stuff out of there.
Otherwise, you're just going to propagate it.
Right? And you're showing across the board, whether it's organized religion, the media, Congress, both the House and the Senate, the presidency, every institution in American life is now questioned because of the way that the institutions have comported themselves.
It's not the American people's problem.
They make it like, oh, the American people are very cynical.
American people are very angry. They're very divided.
Well, hey, they're looking at what's happening here.
They're underwriting the defense of the entire world.
And the Germans, I said to the German defense minister and said, hey, yo, bro, it's got to be 2% or more.
And Trump, quite frankly, wants it in arrears.
He says, well, you know, we really can't do that because we have a constitution that has a balanced budget.
And our constitution says we have to have a balanced budget.
I said, look, dude, we wrote your constitution after we bombed you back to the Stone Age.
So don't give me your constitution.
I don't want to hear it. Right?
We've drafted that thing for you.
And that's a nice thing.
You know, we don't have a balance. You got health care for your citizens.
You got pensions for your citizens.
Our people don't have health care.
Our people don't have pensions.
Right? You got it all.
Why? Because you're not paying for your defense, and we're paying for it.
That stops. And Jamie Diamond, that's the editor of The Economist, who I bench-pressed on the 150th anniversary, 175th anniversary.
I think it's 150. I was the lead interview she did.
I bench-pressed her. Right?
A total lightweight. She's sitting there, oh, it's isolation.
We're not isolationists. It has nothing to do with isolation.
But we want to put America's interest first.
Right? This is what a fourth turning is about.
A fourth turning is when the institutions, the rot in the institutions, they have to be rejuvenated or purged.
Mark Mitchell, what does your polling show you, sir?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼
It is about institutional trust.
If you want to know my honest opinion, I think what is happening is that the media landscape changed.
There are independent news sources.
There is uncensored technology out there and people are – the public opinion, it isn't – it doesn't move fast enough for people to keep up with backroom deals, what's going on in DC. But they're going to find out now and they feel like they're getting burned by these things and I think the American people are just being burned too many times.
You talk about the military.
I think they know what's happening because we have a president.
That 63% of Americans think it's profiting from foreign governments and pay-to-play schemes.
And almost 50% of Americans think that China is our enemy right now.
So we have a president that most Americans think is profiting from our enemy.
And that's where we're at. And I can rattle off a list of appalling figures.
But I think the big thing, the takeaway for me is this isn't an Obama-Romney election.
I hear things like we need to move forward, we need to restore faith in our institutions.
I almost wonder if we're past that, especially for Republicans.
Because just to run through a few of these, 65% of voters think we're covering for China on COVID, 77% of Republicans.
65% think the Capitol riot was provoked by federal agents, 74% of Republicans.
64% think the FBI is politically weaponized, 80% of Republicans.
Fifty-nine percent say the media is the enemy of the people.
Seventy-seven percent of Republicans.
I can go on and on.
But, I mean, some of these are just mind-blowing.
Half of Americans think that the vaccine caused a significant number of deaths.
Fifty-six percent of Republicans.
And finally, from yesterday, forty-two percent of voters and almost half of Republicans think that our own federal agency was complicit in the death of a sitting president.
And I just don't know how you move forward or return to normalcy off of something like that.
It's just a political climate I don't think we've ever seen before.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
But when you say return to normalcy, isn't this the new normal?
And the fact is that it's the actions of these agencies.
I mean, the American people have a striking, if you look at our history, Have a lot of common sense, right?
And they can weigh and measure when they get the right information.
When they finally get the right information, they can think it through themselves.
There's a very powerful scene.
By the way, McCarthy announced he's going to start showing films to the congressman.
He's going to start showing films. The first one he's going to show is Lincoln, which I do think it's not perfect, but it's an outstanding film.
The second one he's going to, he's announcing he's going to show is Sound of...
Freedom. But there's a great scene in Lincoln where they're talking about the legality of the Emancipation Proclamation.
Now, this is towards the end of the war.
And Lincoln makes this case, hey, you know, the legality of it, because it was a wartime measure, when the war is over, legality may be a little shaky.
He said, but I gave the people, I gave the American people a year and a half to think about it and mull it over, and they re-elected me for office.
My point is the American people, when they think about this, isn't this questioning of the institutions because, and what you just mentioned there, we can go back through it, because the American people, and particularly people who spent more time digging into this, and every day I can tell you on this show, we've got hundreds of thousands of viewers and listeners that do their own research, and you've got to stay ahead of them.
But the facts that they're finding out, Mark, is leading them to these opinions.
It's not crazy talk.
It's not half-baked.
It's pretty well thought through.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼
Mark Mitchell. I think we're in a situation where we're moving beyond people's considerations of legality.
Again, they think that our sitting president has profited from our enemies.
That's where we're at. Our institutions are running ops against their own people.
That's where we're at right now.
And the biggest, most clearest example to me is that I now have two nights back out of a three-night set where we're refreshing our Trump favorability numbers.
And after two nights, he's at 55%.
At this point, he's probably the most indicted politician ever.
And he now is the highest favorability of any politician we test.
I struggle to name another single politician on the national stage that routinely polls north of 50%.
And Donald Trump does.
His favorability numbers are now 10 points higher than Biden.
And among independents, they're 34 points better than Biden's are among independents.
It's just incredible. So that's where we're at.
They can throw more indictments.
The American voters don't care and I really think it comes down to they've seen Republicans.
They don't trust their leaders.
Mitch McConnell polls as bad as Nancy Pelosi does among Republicans.
It's incredible. And so they want somebody that they can trust and they've seen these kind of indictments pan out before.
They've seen the Ukraine phone call.
They've seen the aftermath of Russiagate and I guess they think that there was nothing there.
But right now, Donald Trump is the most trusted politician in America.
And I know people can look and say, well, I don't trust polling.
But I'm telling you, this is the same methodology.
The weightings are maybe one or two points different than the 2020 election where we did have Biden up a few points in our final call.
So something big has changed in public opinion.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, hang on for a second.
We're going to hold you. I want to spend some time and drill down this because this is signal, not noise.
The institutions are cratering as far as public approval goes while Trump rises.
What's behind that? Short break.
unidentified
Be back in a moment in the world.
mike johnson ▲ ● ▼
Chairman. Director Wray, this is no time to mince words.
The American people have lost faith in the FBI. All of our constituents are demanding that we get this situation under control, and we have to do that.
That's our responsibility. This is not a political party issue, sir.
This is about whether the very system of justice in our country can be trusted anymore.
Without that, no republic can survive.
See, the American people that we represent are losing count of the scandals that are mounting.
The FBI has been involved.
They've seen evidence that it's being used as a political tool of the Biden administration.
They've seen counterterrorism resources being used against school parents, the homes of conservative political opponents being raided.
They've seen Conservative states being targeted over their election integrity laws and conservative Catholics and pro-life citizens characterized as violent extremists.
Just last month, as you know, former Special Counsel John Durham sat right in that seat and testified that the Justice Department and the FBI should never have launched the bogus Trump-Russia investigation.
And his lengthy report reluctantly concluded that the FBI, quote, failed to uphold its mission forever.
A strict fidelity to the law.
Just last week, NBC had a poll.
Only 37% of registered voters now view the FBI positively.
35% have a negative view.
In 2018, by comparison, 52% of the country had a positive view of the FBI. There's a serious decline in the people's faith, and it's on your watch, sir.
And then, July 4th, we had this explosive, explosive, 155-page opinion from a federal court in my home state of Louisiana It explains in detail that the FBI has been directly involved in what the court says is, quote, arguably the most massive attack against free speech in United States history.
The court ordered the White House, DOJ, and FBI, among others, to immediately cease colluding with and coercing social media companies to suppress American speech, of course, conservative speech in particular.
Director Wray, I find it stunning.
You made no mention of this court opinion either in your opening statement today Are in this lengthy 14-page report that you prepared on July 12th, which is eight days after the court ruling.
Have you read the ruling, sir?
unidentified
I am familiar with the ruling and I've reviewed it with our Office of General Counsel.
mike johnson ▲ ● ▼
Are you deeply disturbed by what they've told you about the ruling if you haven't read it yourself?
unidentified
Obviously, we're going to comply with the court's order, the court's preliminary injunction.
We sent out guidance to the field and the headquarters about how to do that.
Needless to say, the injunction itself is a subject of ongoing litigation, and so I'll decline to comment further on that.
mike johnson ▲ ● ▼
Let me tell you what the court concluded, because it should be the first thing you think about every morning and the last thing you think about at night.
They said that, quote, the court found...
Apparently, the FBI engaged in a massive effort to suppress disfavored conservative speech and blatantly ignored the First Amendment's right to free speech.
The evidence shows the FBI threatened adverse consequences to social media companies that they did not comply with its censorship requests.
The court found that, quote, this seemingly unrelenting pressure by the FBI and the other defendants had the intended result of suppressing millions of protected free speech postings by American citizens.
As a result, The court states, for example, millions of citizens did not hear about the Hunter Biden laptop story prior to the November 3rd, 2020 election.
Page four of the court ruling lists some of the important subjects that the Biden administration and the FBI forced the social media platforms to suppress.
The evidence shows you, your agency, the people that directly report to you, suppressed conservative-leaning free speech about topics like the laptop, the lab leak theory of COVID-19's origin, the effectiveness of masks and COVID-19 lockdowns and vaccines.
Speech about election integrity in the 2020 presidential election.
Security of voting by mail.
Even parody about the president himself.
Negative posts about the economy.
The FBI made the social media platforms pull that information off the internet if it came from conservative sources.
They did this under the guise that it was disinformation.
Can you define what disinformation is?
unidentified
What I can tell you is that our focus is not on disinformation, broadly speaking.
mike johnson ▲ ● ▼
Well, wait a minute. Yes, it is. Wait a minute.
Can I answer the question? You can in a minute.
Your star witness said in the litigation, Elvis Chan, who's in charge of this, said they do it on the basis of disinformation.
We need a definition of what that is.
unidentified
Foreign disinformation, that is foreign hostile actors who engage in covert efforts to abuse our social media platforms, which is something that is not seriously in dispute.
mike johnson ▲ ● ▼
I have to stop you for time.
That's not accurate. You need to read this court opinion because you're in charge of enforcing it.
And Elvis Chan testified under oath in charge of this for you.
He said 50%.
He had a 50% success rate in having alleged election disinformation taken down or censored.
That wasn't just foreign adversaries, sir.
That was American citizens.
unidentified
How do you answer for that? Well, first off, I'm not sure that's a correct characterization of his testimony.
But what I would say is the FBI is not in the business of moderating content We're causing any social media company to suppress or censor.
mike johnson ▲ ● ▼
That is not what the court has found.
unidentified
What I would also say is among the things that you listed off, I find ironic the reference to the lab leak theory.
The idea that the FBI would somehow be involved in suppressing references to the lab leak theory is somewhat absurd when you consider the fact that the FBI was the only, the only agency in the entire intelligence community to reach the assessment That it was more likely than not that that was the explanation for the pandemic.
mike johnson ▲ ● ▼
But your agents pulled it off the internet, sir.
That's what the evidence in the court has found.
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Time of the gentleman has expired. The gentleman from New York is recognized.
Director Wray, House Republicans have attacked the execution of the search warrant of Mar-a-Lago last August as a, quote, unprecedented raid.
Would you consider the execution of the search warrant of Mar-a-Lago?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I don't think we could have had a more perfect tee-up for you than right there with Mike Johnson from Louisiana, and he's a bulldog, going right at Ray, to exactly what we talked about.
The American people have lost faith in the institution of the FBI, and of course Ray in leadership, but the institution of the FBI. Your assessment of the opening question grilling of FBI Director Ray?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼
If that was live, my mind is blown.
I wish they had referred to Rasmussen polls, though, and not NBC. Because we broke news back in March when we came on your show and said for the very first time in US history, the FBI was underwater with Americans in favorability.
And Americans do like law enforcement.
So that was a really huge thing.
And not only that, we've said in the past that more than half of America thinks that the FBI is now Joe Biden's personal Gestapo.
And over three out of four Republicans say the absolute same thing.
But every other topic mentioned there, we've polled on.
64% of voters think the FBI is politically weaponized.
80% of Republicans, and of course, Ray is a Republican nominee.
And also 66% of voters think that we're covering from China and the lab leak, and that's 77% of Republicans.
So, man, I got to get our polling down to D.C. more.
I really think that it could have been useful in that question.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Well, I think he was – I think it's true, but I think he was trying to show the most liberal NBC. That was live.
We just cut into the end of Ray's statement, and that was the very first – that was the opening question from this grilling that Ray's going to get to.
And you see what the Democrats are going to do.
They're going to use their time to just – all they're going to talk about is Trump and the indictment and the Mar-a-Lago situation.
So we'll have Mike Davidson here in a little while to talk about that.
Look at Ray's answers.
What I'm stunned about, that was live television.
This ruling coming out of Schmidt in Missouri, who's now a senator when he was attorney general, and Louisiana in the federal court down there, the judge's opinion is stunning.
What got me right there, and you talk about lack of confidence in the institutions, this is one of the most important rulings from a federal bench in a long time.
It specifically goes after the FBI because of the testimony of the guy that ran the Silicon Valley office and basically colluded with and was inside.
They had guys inside all these tech companies.
Christopher Wray has not read the opinion.
I'll bet you half of the War Room audience, the vast audience of War Room, we made it a homework assignment.
And I've gotten feedback and the team's gotten feedback.
Half, and these are working class people, middle class people, they've read it.
Chris Wray, this is the problem.
This is why they don't have faith in institutions, because Chris Wray, it's all rule of law, rule of law, you've got to follow rule of law.
A federal judge does this and says the FBI's got to start complying with this.
The head of the FBI, in testimony, just said he hadn't read it.
He can't be bothered to read it.
This is the frickin' problem.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼
Mark Mitchell. I think these people for a long time have had really effective media covering for them.
And my biggest takeaway is that it appears to be failing for them.
And the piece of evidence I would supply for that is, tell me who is literally the most attacked politician in the history of America.
Donald Trump. Guess what his very unfavorable rating is?
And admittedly, in two out of three nights, the final numbers will be coming out soon.
His very unfavorable rating is down to 33% with all voters.
This is the most maligned man in all of American politics.
That's where we're at right now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Wow. That is incredible.
Absolutely incredible. I want to go back on the institutions, too, to talk about because we were at the southern border.
I can have any setup for this.
Yesterday, we were at the southern border.
And Todd Benjamin's on the Mexico side.
And the reason the Mexico side, he wants to look back with the camera and see how the Texas Rangers and the Department of Public Safety is using the resources of the citizens of Texas to have Operation Hold the Line, where they're putting a barbed wire, they're clearing the cane from the lowlands, they're actually putting buoys in the water, obstructions, they're trying to obstruct people coming, this invasion from coming over.
At the same time, you have the brave Border Patrol guys who are these heroes are being ordered by Mayorkas in Washington to cut the wire and to basically be a concierge service to allow the illegal aliens to come over.
And people see that and they go, what is going on here?
It is a theater of the absurd.
Then today you've got the FBI getting grilled and it gets back to the railhead, the railhead of people's beginning to lose confidence in We're good to go.
The race riots, everything. America seemed to come unglued in the 60s.
But institutions, you had the Warren Commission, which nobody believes the Warren Commission.
Talk to me about what the people think about the CIA's involvement in the assassination of a sitting president, sir.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼
42% of U.S. likely voters think that it's at least somewhat likely that the CIA was involved in a conspiracy to assassinate John Fitzgerald and Kennedy.
And only 41% say it isn't likely and only 18% say it's not at all likely.
So less than one in five Americans can sit there and tell you that no, one of our major federal agencies didn't help violently overthrow one of our presidents.
And that's – I mean literally they call that a fringe conspiracy theory and more people think it than not.
And what really blows my mind too, and I think that this illustrates what we see happening now, is that's just an incredible finding.
It's super important, but it's not urgent.
And so I think what the media has been very effective in the past is being able to shift the focus of people's attentions.
And I think there's a reason it's catching up for them.
If you talk to a Democrat They don't really like open borders.
If you show them pictures of people pouring across the southern border, they don't like it.
And more democrats than not say that we're not doing enough on the border to control illegal immigration.
But the difference is that it's just not that important to them.
There's other issues that they think are more and more important.
And so they can be moved away from thinking about that.
But the problem is, is that when the things being uncovered become more and more horrifying and people objectively look at what's coming out, then what I see is two things are starting to happen, is that independent minded people are going to pull a lot closer to Republicans.
And the Democrats, I think, are just losing control of the situation right now.
They still support Biden, but something's going to break.
And Trump is losing, is winning to Biden in 2024 rematches.
And that's huge.
And I just don't think they're all going to keep the entire thing glued together anymore.
Too much is coming out.
unidentified
Just hang on. Just hang with me, Mark.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Mother, Maybelle Carter, will take us out in this segment.
unidentified
May the circle be unbroken.
A wide-ranging conspiracy to overturn the election Did the FBI start looking right after January 6th at the ex-president?
I'm sorry, I just lost the last part of your question there.
Did the FBI start looking at the ex-president's role in January 6th?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
She made an opening statement that said, I can't believe the Republicans are questioning the FBI as one of the most revered institutions in the country.
We're going to dip in and out of this.
As the day progresses.
Chris Hoare, more than ever, the war room posse is into self-reliance and self-determination because we're a big believer in the institutional rot of the foundational elements here of our modern administrative state, not the republic, not our foundational documents or what the framers gave us, but this administrative state.
So everybody's on the self-reliance program.
Tell us the specials you got for our audience today.
unidentified
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So this device is normally $300.
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It also includes a free smartphone and a Faraday bag to protect everything from an EMP attack, Steve.
But just call us 941-841-0844 or go to sat123.com to get this free device.
We only have 100 of these available, Steve.
But again, this little device, you put it in your pocket, and now you will always be able to send or receive a text message.
Even if the cell towers are down or you have no cell phone service, you're completely out of range, you'll be able to send or receive text messages.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We got a hundred of them.
What else? They get the bivy stick, and what else do you guys throw in to the deal?
unidentified
We actually throw in a free smartphone, in case you don't already have one, you need to spell one, and a free Faraday bag.
And the Faraday bag, you put any electronic equipment inside there, Steve, and it will be protected from an EMP attack or a solar flare.
And, you know, rogue nations are now using EMP attacks, you know, in a military way.
They're weaponizing it. So this will keep you protected and keep you off the grid.
You'll be in contact and in communication, no matter where you are on Earth, with the baby stick.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We want our audience to be always in constant communication.
Chris, one more time. What's the website?
unidentified
What's the number? SAT123.com.
That's SAT123.com or 941-841-0844.
That's 941-841-0844.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Thank you, Chris. Thank you for doing this to the audience.
Only 100, so get up on it right now.
Thanks, sir. Main the ramparts.
Mitchell, so here's the thing.
You made a very important comment when you first – I think in the B Block when you said this is now – this is not like Mitt Romney versus Obama in 12.
There's a – and it's not even about personalities, although you can see Trump.
They understand Trump's just being attacked nonstop.
There's something deeper going on in American life, and this is what – this concept of turnings goes, and we're in a fourth turning.
But as you've seen these numbers, these are not like 51-49.
You're starting to see a tectonic plate shift, particularly where conservatives and Republicans are just outright questioning these institutions and major institutions.
Walk me through, and not just for the presidential election, but for American culture and society.
In your mind, just from the math, where do you see this heading?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼
I honestly have – I don't think we've ever seen anything like this.
It's almost become predictable where I can ask a question about some overtly political or malicious thing that the federal government is doing, and I can get about a 60-couple percent of the American electorate who agrees with it and only 30-couple percent that disagree.
And I wonder first if the numbers are really going to top out.
I just wonder how much – Higher until we bump into folks' inability to adjust to the cognitive dissonance.
But also, I mean, it does explain absolutely what's going on right now.
People see a member of the elite, whether it's the media, big corporations, politicians in DC, and they don't believe them anymore.
And it's not. And I love that little segment you ran.
It's not a Republican thing, right?
The FBI destroyed its own credibility.
We've been polling on FBI favorability for a while, and it didn't really start to plunge until after the Mar-a-Lago raid.
That's when, for the first time, a majority of folks said that the FBI was Joe Biden's personal Gestapo.
But now the FBI is underwater with independents.
43% approval rating among independents of the FBI, 50% unfavorable rating.
Only 18% of independents have a very favorable rating of the FBI. So it's not political and they did it to themselves.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Mark Mitchell, how do people get to – and how do they get over to Rasmussen and start to get into all your material?
Because you guys are polling all the time.
I'd like to have you back tomorrow to talk about this Trump's approval because this is a blockbuster number, and it really sets a tone with the demise of DeSantis.
There's so much going on underneath the surface that we want our audience to understand or at least give them the framework that they can think it through themselves, different than all the other crap that's out there.
This is fundamental and it's important.
So we want to get you back tomorrow.
But as for a homework assignment, you can't spend your time better than digging into some of the Rasmussen polling and what Mark and the guys have over there on the channel over at Rumble and at YouTube.
So where do they go, Mark Mitchell?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I'll give them a great homework assignment.
Go to Twitter, rasmussen underscore poll, and within five minutes, I'm going to have a thread up that shows a lot of the screenshots of each of these individual polls on trust on the institution.
So people can take a look at that, download them, send them to people in public office.
That'd be a great use of your time.
And also what I'll also do, I'll pin the video that we did that's part one of all of our election integrity polling.
That's kind of the one-two punch.
Trust in institutions and people's Total mistrust of the electoral systems in the U.S. So I'll pin that on Twitter as well, and they can get to it at YouTube.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Fantastic. And we look forward to trying to get you back on here tomorrow to go through that, the thread, and also this Trump approval rating, which is going to be pretty stunning.
You're going to do night three tonight, report tomorrow.
Thank you very much. Honor to have you on here.
My pleasure. Okay, we're going to take a 90-second break.
unidentified
I think it's 90 seconds. It might be 120 seconds.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay? I think we're playing two versions of this today.
Doc Watson and Mother Mabel Carter.
Doesn't get any better than that.
America. This is Pride Month in our flag, in our country, in our founders, in our nation.
Not the degeneracy you see in June.
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