June 20, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Thanks for joining us. | ||
| I said, well, we probably need to listen to the evidence first. | ||
| They freaked out and said the man is not fit morally to be there. | ||
| America's in decline. | ||
| It's the end of our constitutional republic because he's immoral. | ||
| So let me just say, of course, this has all changed. | ||
| I don't have to name, you know, the payoffs to the porn stars and all the other things that they're just turning a blind eye to. | ||
| It's accepted. I mean, you say in your column, the majority of Trump enablers still know right from wrong. | ||
| But let me ask you something. | ||
| It's our tribe, right? | ||
| So if Donald Trump has a disorder, if he's a sociopath, what went so horribly wrong with our tribe, whether we're talking about our Republican tribe, our conservative tribe, or our evangelical tribe? | ||
| Why weren't there more Tim Kellers out there? | ||
| Why weren't there more Pete Wainers out there? | ||
| Why weren't there more Russell Moores out there? | ||
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Yeah, and Joe Scarborough's and others. | |
| Look, it's a question that I've wrestled with for a long time. | ||
| One way I think about it is how many of these dark impulses existed pre-Trump in the Republican Party that I wasn't as alert to as I should have been. | ||
| You know, if you go back over my writings, I called the Republicans out now and then. | ||
| Looking back, I probably didn't do it nearly enough. | ||
| Apart from that, what's gone on is you had a situation in which I think there were deep feelings of grievance and resentments that Trump tapped into. | ||
| And you saw this psychological accommodation, because once they threw their hat over the wall in 2016 when he got the nomination, it was one thing after another after another. | ||
| And if you study human psychology, the capacity of human beings to rationalize and justify what they do In order to mitigate what's called cognitive dissonance, that is a sense that your values are at odds with what you stated, is enormous. | ||
| I think there was power, longing for power because it was present. | ||
| I think there was fear of the base. | ||
| I think there was cowardice. | ||
| I think there was a hollow moral core and this sort of self-deception. | ||
| But it is an unbelievably puzzling thing, I think, particularly for people like you and I, Joe, and others who are Republicans. | ||
| It's probably why we have the energy that we do on this issue, because this is a party we belong to. | ||
| And to see what it's doing, the kind of wrecking ball, a civic wrecking ball, a political wrecking ball, a moral wrecking ball, it's disturbing for anybody, but particularly from people who were formerly associated with the Republican Party. | ||
| They should have seen this. It was obvious that this guy was going to be what he was And Pete, I would guess for you, people that grew up in the evangelical church, you listened to Tim Keller, some of the last things he said. | ||
| Tim said, you know, being an evangelical used to mean you turned your back on sort of the Pentecostal approach. | ||
| Sort of this build the wall around your church. | ||
| And the idea of evangelicals, and I saw it growing up, I saw it growing up, was to throw the door wide open, look outward, and try to figure out how to connect, how to make difference in your community, how to be there for people who were hurting and people that were in need, being good Samaritans. | ||
| That's what they taught us at least every Sunday. | ||
| Of course, we all fell short of the mark. | ||
| I'd fall short of the mark. | ||
| Still, all the time. | ||
| But that was the idea. | ||
| But Tim, one of the last things Tim said was that the word evangelical, it's become associated with politics instead of faith. | ||
| They've not only, these Trumpers have not only taken over and twisted and distorted the Republican Party, they've done it to conservatism and they've done it to evangelicalism. | ||
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Yeah, I would just say as a person of the Christian faith, that's been the most personally painful thing to me, to see not just the damage to the country, but to the damage to the faith, which I think is almost incalculable. | |
| I think what's been revealed among other things, Joe, is that faith turned out to be subordinate, secondary to certain core identities, whether they were partisan and political or cultural or socioeconomic. | ||
| Or psychological. And what happened is a lot of people had a certain preconceptions. | ||
| They started at a point and they used the scriptures to justify where they were. | ||
| You know, Shakespeare said the devil can quote scripture for his own purposes, and in fact did in The Second Temptation. | ||
| And I think we're seeing that happen. | ||
| And look, you have in Donald Trump the person who probably most embodies the antithesis of the Sermon on the Mount, the person of Jesus and the teachings of Jesus. | ||
| And this guy is a rock star and has been for year after year. | ||
| Now, you could have made an argument in 2016 that they didn't know what he was dealing with, but not as the years unfolded. | ||
| And by the time we got to 2020, it was so obvious what he was, and yet they stayed. | ||
| And it's a tremendous indictment of them, and it raises really deep issues. | ||
| I know Tim was a close friend of mine. | ||
| We talked a lot about this, and it really raises a lot of questions about the evangelical movement. | ||
| And what's happened, what went wrong, and what can be done to get it right? | ||
| I mean, you go through the Beatitudes, and that's my challenge, always my challenge to those who talk about this. | ||
| I go through every single Beatitude in the Sermon on the Mount. | ||
| Every single one. | ||
| Blessed are the merciful. | ||
| Blessed are the meek. | ||
| Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness. | ||
| I mean, I can go, blessed are the merciful, those who show mercy. | ||
| I can go through them all. | ||
| He is literally the antithesis of every single one. | ||
| Blessed is MAGA, for they shall save this republic. | ||
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They're coming right there. | |
| You're indicted. Evangelical Christians, traditional Catholics, as I've told you, you're the problem. | ||
| Right? You're the problem. | ||
| Because you're the support function for Trump. | ||
| You're the problem. You're indicted. | ||
| And I want to remind you, this is by the crowd That stood by and let the country get in this situation, get in this shape. | ||
| Do you think that this, as we had Brandon Showalter and others on last evening's show, do you think this just all appeared out of nowhere? | ||
| This was all done, what is it, Dreyer, Scarborough, that entire crowd, the Bush factotums, the Bush apparatus, the controlled opposition. | ||
| The controlled opposition allowed The atheistic Marxist elite culture. | ||
| Remember, it has nothing to do with economics. | ||
| They're going to keep all the cash, right? | ||
| They're going to keep all the capital, just like the Chinese Communist Party does, which we're going to get into in a moment, because that's their role model. | ||
| But they're going to have struggle sessions with you, destroy the nuclear family, turn your children against you. | ||
| Where were these big talkers? | ||
| Where are these guys doing that? | ||
| All the stuff that's come up. | ||
| The cultural, the social, the loss of sovereignty, the sending your sons and daughters to foreign battlefields to die just for the extension of the American empire. | ||
| Where were those guys then? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| But Donald Trump stands athwart the Sermon on the Mount. | ||
| Well, I would refer What is it? | ||
| We're going to call him Pastor Scarborough now? | ||
| Pastor Scarborough? He ought to read the gospel according to Mark with Jesus as exorcist to drive out the evil ones, right? | ||
| The gospel they don't teach anymore in theology schools because it's a Jesus, a Christ that comes back or comes to drive out the devil. | ||
| Right? How about this? | ||
| MAGA, blessed is MAGA, for it will save this republic. | ||
| Suck on that, Joe Scarborough, in Atlantic Magazine. | ||
| We've got a lot going on today, and we're going to get to it. | ||
| It's Tuesday, 20 June, in the year of our Lord, 2023, in the project... | ||
| To save this republic and turn it around and make sure it is a force for prosperity and good that the new Jerusalem and this promised land would get it sorted and get it in the right direction because right now the apparatus and the people who control the apparatus are bound and determined not to do it. | ||
| I was going to start with Tony Blinken's because we've got to get into China and Ukraine and what's happening there because they're setting the framework here for what they want As a new global order, where the United States of America kowtows to the CCP after taking over their business models, | ||
| kowtows to the CCP. And at the same time, make sure that you're pouring billions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars into this fiasco in Ukraine, which is just killing more Ukrainian civilians and Ukrainian military. | ||
| Okay? I want to bring it. | ||
| We got a bunch. Senator Josh Hawley is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. | ||
| I want to start with Dr. | ||
| Bradley Thayer. And I can't play the cold open because I'm kind of pressed for time. | ||
| I had a whole thing of Blinken and Biden saying what a great job Blinken's doing. | ||
| And we were going to play the Neville Chamberlain at Munich. | ||
| Maybe that's a little too on the nose, but hey, you're in the war room. | ||
| Dr. Bradley Thayer, I'll start with you and then I've got Ben Harnwell with us. | ||
| I think Frank Gaffney is going to try to join us this morning. | ||
| We've got, and just so we set it up before we pivot to China, the reason they're coming in, remember the left, the Marxist left, the atheistic Marxist left, which will try to now clothe itself into religion because they understand traditional Catholics and evangelical Christians are one of the backbones of this movement that The Faith and Freedom Conference is this week. | ||
| Ralph Reed's group is in D.C. President Trump will address that. | ||
| You've got the one-year anniversary of the Dobbs decision. | ||
| There's a huge commemoration, celebration of that on Saturday. | ||
| So you've got a lot of this. | ||
| Many of the evangelicals and faith-based are coming to D.C. and they're going to be participating in this. | ||
| Tonight, The Sounds of Freedom, the movie, premieres here in Washington, D.C. Jim Cavisa right now, as we schedule him, it's all subject to To get the celebrities around D.C. where they're meeting with all the high muckety-mucks. | ||
| Jim Caviezel is going to join us right now. | ||
| We are scheduled for an hour with Jim in the 6 o'clock show. | ||
| So you've got the Sound of Freedom. | ||
| You've got the Faith of Freedom conference with Ralph Reed. | ||
| You've got the one-year anniversary of Dobbs. | ||
| They're now going to pile in Trump is the Antichrist. | ||
| Trump's the Antichrist. | ||
| He's opposed to every one of the tenets of the Sermon on the Mount. | ||
| Right? So he's the Antichrist. | ||
| Trump is Antichrist. So this week we're going to go through Trump is Antichrist. | ||
| So we'll make sure we deconstruct that for you and to make sure that you have a full understanding as you think it through that you're actually on the side of the angels. | ||
| Okay? You're on the side of the angels and not with the evil ones. | ||
| Remember, Joe Scarborough and this crowd and that guy, they're the ones to support This group of guys with beards dressed up as nuns that are there to mock the family, to mock the crucifixion of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, to mock American traditions, to mock American values. | ||
| Joe Scarborough and his wingman there every day are supporting what they're doing in the schools to your children. | ||
| And here's who's revolting against it. | ||
| The Armenian dads, right, that we're trying to get on here in the next couple of days. | ||
| The 5,000 folks that showed up to protest the desecrators, that were there to protest the desecrators, was a 80 or 90 percent Hispanic crowd and 50 percent of them were men, Hispanic men. | ||
| That's who's standing up to this. | ||
| And right now it's kind of just coming together in this little bit ill form, but it's self-organizing. | ||
| That's fine. It's powerful. | ||
| It's more powerful to be self-organizing. | ||
| So we're going to get to all that and we're going to chop a lot of wood on that this week to make sure you understand as they now present that Trump's the Antichrist and because you support Trump or you're a populist or you're a populist nationalist and you are here to defend the sovereignty of this nation, the new Jerusalem, that you in fact are, you're one of the, you're the problem. | ||
| That you are the problem. | ||
| Your faith is the problem. | ||
| What you believe is the problem. | ||
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What your core values are, you're the problem. | |
| You. You. You. | ||
| You. You. You're the problem. You know why they say that? | ||
| Because they understand you have power. | ||
| And they have to destroy that. | ||
| And take it from you. | ||
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Next in the War Room. The objective in coming here was to try to stabilize relations between the US and China. | |
| Expectations for this visit for the Secretary of State were actually quite low. | ||
| Again, the idea was to reach a point where the US could avoid conflict. | ||
| Good afternoon. A high-stakes visit to stabilize relations between the US and China. | ||
| Secretary of State Antony Blinken meeting with China's President Xi Jinping after two intense days here. | ||
| After that meeting, Secretary Blinken sat down with us and was clear this visit had to happen. | ||
| We were in an increasingly unstable place in our relationship. | ||
| I think this is the start of a process to put a little more stability into it. | ||
| With friction on nearly every front, including tariffs, espionage in Taiwan, U.S.-China relations have been in near freefall. | ||
| Add to it now growing tension over a Chinese spy base on Cuba. | ||
| I repeatedly raised it, and of course this is not something new. | ||
| Is the administration at all concerned about China making it more than a spy base? | ||
| We always have concerns when they are physically taking a position that could turn into a military base of some kind. | ||
| Chinese officials have grievances, too, like U.S. export bans on technology. | ||
| Let me have it. Let me have it. | ||
| There you are right there, folks. | ||
| Right between the eyes. | ||
| Dr. Bradley Thayer, you know this line of country as well as anybody in our nation. | ||
| Walk me through what has happened here in the last 72 hours, sir. | ||
| Well, sadly, Steve, it's a disaster for the United States. | ||
| This trip should have never happened. | ||
| The fact that it has happened makes it even worse. | ||
| And it shows how lost the Biden administration is, how they're seeking intentionally to humiliate the United States, which is what I call the Biden doctrine, that this presidency has an obsequiousness to the Chinese Communist Party, which is deleterious to American security, to U.S. national security. | ||
| And what you witnessed with Biden's remarks, giving Xi Jinping a get-out-of-jail-free card for sending a spy balloon over the United States, and then with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken's visit in the last couple of days, it compounds really to show that these guys are not engaging as they should in political warfare. | ||
| The Cold War with China is not yet kinetic, but it is happening. | ||
| It is a war that's going on in the political realm. | ||
| And the Biden administration is a masterclass of what not to do to win political warfare. | ||
| And that really is rooted in the fact that these guys are so willing to bend over to our enemy, the Chinese Communist Party, which is committing genocide against Muslims. | ||
| Which has an atrocious human rights record at present and historically, and which is working as actively as it can to hurt America's interests around the world. | ||
| And our allies see it. | ||
| And so when Antony Blinken is over there talking about how he wants to stabilize relations in the code, that means he wants to accelerate engagement, to go back to the pre-Trump days. | ||
| When we would engage with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| But this is worse. | ||
| Instead of decoupling, this is kowtow. | ||
| This is even worse than before the Trump administration. | ||
| I want to go to two things. | ||
| Number one, Blinken says right there that the Chinese are very open that they could turn the Cuba former Russian facility into a Chinese military base. | ||
| Think about that. Into a Chinese military base. | ||
| We now go to the New York Post today. | ||
| We know that these guys have been working on bioweapons and biological warfare. | ||
| That's where the Wuhan lab was on the leak. | ||
| But he also admitted, did he not, that they tried on a number. | ||
| He brought up time and time again. | ||
| This is Blinken's word. | ||
| To have a direct line of communication between the heads of the military, and he was dismissed by the CCP in this. | ||
| Am I correct in that analysis of what Blinken tried to do? | ||
| Yes, the Chinese are unwilling to restart direct military-to-military talks or a mill-to-mill engagement with the United States. | ||
| And so that was what he wanted. | ||
| Whether he should have that, of course, is another question. | ||
| What do we get out of those military-to-military engagements, right? | ||
| I mean, it really is a way for the Chinese military to learn our standard operating procedures the way we conduct military operations. | ||
| So again, it's bad for us and good for the Chinese military. | ||
| The desire to engage in, quote unquote, dialogue with China is odd and incongruence. | ||
| There are many ways that governments can communicate. | ||
| There's no shortage of them. | ||
| And to go hat in hand the way that they are, essentially, as I said in the piece in The Messenger, that the Chinese Communist Party gave the Biden administration an early Christmas gift by allowing Antony Blinken to come there And to have a dressing down from Xi Jinping to be treated as a subordinate. | ||
| So that shows you where we are with this administration. | ||
| And it's greatly damaging to our interests. | ||
| But you said something at the beginning. | ||
| Yeah, I want to talk about his. He actually went on and said, we don't support the independence when I was ready to say that. | ||
| But you said at the beginning that I want to make sure I heard it correctly. | ||
| The Biden policy. | ||
| Was one of making sure that the CCP humiliated us? | ||
| Or do you think that just their weakness, fecklessness and incompetence allowed that? | ||
| Or do you think that is actually the way they roll? | ||
| The Biden administration is seeking the humiliation of the United States by our greatest adversary. | ||
| That's where we are with this administration. | ||
| It's outrageous, of course, and you've devoted Considerable time to this, but this has to be reversed and they need to be called out. | ||
| Look, he floated a spy balloon over the United States, which in political warfare is not just an intelligence collection device, it was certainly, but it was a symbol in political warfare that the U.S. is humiliated. | ||
| The U.S. and the American people are vulnerable. | ||
| to attack. And the Cuba base is just another example of this. | ||
| And we can go and count many examples around the world where this is happening. | ||
| And this has to be reversed. | ||
| We need to act like a superpower. | ||
| We're a superpower. | ||
| We're the greatest state in the world, the greatest state in history. | ||
| We have the best ideology. | ||
| We've got friends, people of goodwill around the world who look to us. | ||
| For assistance, for help, to deal with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And the Biden administration is betraying them. | ||
| Betraying our interests. | ||
| Betraying the American people. | ||
| If you look at the facts, They're so concerned about the eastern Russian-speaking border of Ukraine because there they have to focus on the territorial integrity, the sovereignty, and the self-determination of the Ukrainian people, the Ukrainian nation. | ||
| On our southern border, the Chinese Communist Party, and I don't think it's going to be too long for Mexico to deal with them because right now the Mexican cartels that run essentially much of Mexico are in business with them. | ||
| John Mills has been on here. The fentanyl, all the fentanyl coming up into the United States, the second opium war. | ||
| It's all by the Chinese Communist Party in collusion with the Chinese gangs, which the CCP's been in business with since the 1930s. | ||
| It's one of Mao's first deals he cut. | ||
| It's with the gangsters, right? | ||
| The criminal element. | ||
| They're now in Cuba. | ||
| They're all throughout the Caribbean, including Bahamas, which is that huge embassy down there is essentially a listening platform for our submarine activity coming out of the Atlantic Coast ports. | ||
| You've got Central America. | ||
| You have Latin America with Brazil. | ||
| You have all the situation going on in Canada, which is, you know, about the CCP's direct involvement in the Canadian elections, you know, interference in the Canadian elections. | ||
| We talk about the containment of China with our allies and the Quad and everything like that. | ||
| The CCP, because of the Biden's weakness, is in its envelopment of the United States. | ||
| And it's choking up not just the infiltration, the fifth column is here with the tech barons, Wall Street, all of it, the influence peddling that goes on here openly in Washington, D.C. with TikTok and other things. | ||
| It's also a physical envelopment of this country with Cuba being, right, it says, Biden, Blinken just kowtowed to all of that. | ||
| We prostated ourselves. | ||
| We prostated ourselves in order to have stability. | ||
| Stability means they're winning. | ||
| They want stability because they have the upper hand. | ||
| They're the rising power. | ||
| And this fantasy of the Joe Scarboroughs, these guys, we can get back to this, is beyond dangerous. | ||
| This is going to lead you to a kinetic war in the South China Sea, in the Straits of Taiwan, and over Taiwan. | ||
| As sure as the turning of the earth, they smell weakness. | ||
| We got about a minute before we get Senator Hawley up. | ||
| What did he say about Taiwan that shocked you, sir? | ||
| Well, it didn't shock me, Steve. | ||
| But what he should have said about Taiwan is that we support Taiwan and that we're not going to allow the Chinese Communist Party to attack it or to coerce it. | ||
| And he didn't say that. | ||
| And so he had an opportunity to make a bold statement. | ||
| But again, because he's yielding to the Chinese Communist Party, he's essentially going along with the path that they want. | ||
| Look, the CCP is our enemy and they want to kill us. | ||
| And the examples that you provided illuminate it. | ||
| They're trying to encircle us to kill us. | ||
| And they're undermining us, of course, as you observed, Steve, with fentanyl. | ||
| With other aspects, hollowing out our industry, of course, as you will have paid so much attention to those issues, as well as Peter Navarro and so many others. | ||
| But the intent is to kill us. | ||
| And we need to recognize they're our enemy and act accordingly. | ||
| And we do not get that from the Biden administration. | ||
| Not the Chinese people. | ||
| Lao Bai Jing was looking for support yesterday against these murderous thugs. | ||
| I know you've got to bounce. Where do people go to get your content, including this new article that's up? | ||
| At the Center for Security Policy or on Getter Truth at Bradley Fair. | ||
| Thanks very much. New article up on The Messenger, also an opinion piece or an analytical piece by Dr. | ||
| Thayer. We'll get it up. Mo and Grace will get it up everywhere. | ||
| Short commercial break. We've got a lot more to deal with. | ||
| All these topics. Senator Josh Hawley joins us next. | ||
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We rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CCP! | |
| Host Stephen K. Babb Madam President, Senator from Missouri is recognized. | ||
| Madam President, in the last 20 years in the state of Missouri, oh I'm sorry, I call up my amendment number 93 and I ask that it be reported by number. Start with that. | ||
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Clerk will report. Senator from Missouri, Mr. | |
| Hawley proposes an amendment, number 93. | ||
| Madam President, in the last 20 years in the state of Missouri, we have lost 60,000 jobs to the People's Republic of China. | ||
| That number nationwide is almost 4 million. | ||
| Our trade deficit with China as we stand here tonight is at near record levels. | ||
| And every dollar of that deficit represents blue-collar jobs destroyed, industry shuttered, manufacturing capacity withering away. | ||
| I'd submit to you that it is the most important deficit that we face. | ||
| And we can talk about budget reforms and we can talk about savings here and there, but until we do the work of bringing back productive capacity to this nation and good-paying, blue-collar jobs you can raise a family on, we will not put our economy on the basis that we need. | ||
| to address the economic challenges that we face. | ||
| So my amendment does something very simple. | ||
| It imposes across-the-board tariffs on China for every year in which we have a trade deficit until that deficit is zero. | ||
| Bring back jobs to this country. | ||
| Senator, time has expired. The Financial Times of London, the lead story today, she hails progress after Blinken talks as U.S. and China attempt to mend ties. | ||
| We just talked about that in the first half hour of the show. | ||
| I want to bring in now Senator Josh Hawley. | ||
| Senator Hawley, you're taking a quite serious approach to this. | ||
| Walk us through your assessment of Blinken's kowtow. | ||
| To the Chinese Communist Party over the last 72 hours, sir? | ||
| Well, as near as I can tell, Tony Blinken's whole objective was to go and just go ahead and kick off the Chinese century. | ||
| I mean, he just basically said, America's done. | ||
| It's all going to be China. What can we do for you? | ||
| What would you like? You know, do you want a listening post in Cuba? | ||
| Here you go. You want Taiwan? | ||
| Go ahead. You want the rest of our jobs? | ||
| Just take them. I mean, that basically was the tenor of the meeting. | ||
| And then Joe Biden says, oh, it was a great deal. | ||
| It was a great meeting. It was a terrible meeting. | ||
| It was a total groveling embarrassment. | ||
| We've got to get serious about getting tough on China, and we can start with the trade deficit. | ||
| Why are we financing their military? | ||
| Because that's what's going on. They're building their military on the backs of our middle class. | ||
| Every dollar of that trade deficit represents our financing of their security state and their imperialism. | ||
| So let's get that down to zero. | ||
| That's what Blinken should have said. | ||
| He should have said, we're not going to let you have any more jobs, and we're not going to let you have any more of our cash. | ||
| We're going to get our trade deficit down to zero, we're not going to finance you anymore, and we're going to get serious, but he did just the opposite. | ||
| Senator, we talk about 60,000 good-paying jobs in Missouri, you talk about four million overall. | ||
| Do the folks in Missouri, the working class and middle class kind of the backbone of this country in a state of patriots like Missouri, do they understand what's at stake here with this kind of undeclared war that the Chinese Communist Party has against America and the American people, sir? | ||
| Yes, they do. Yeah, they really do, Steve. | ||
| I mean, you can go talk to them. | ||
| Ask them who's the number one threat, China. | ||
| Ask them who they think is the focus of evil. | ||
| You know, to borrow Reagan's old phrase, who's the focus of evil in the modern world? | ||
| Right now, it's the communist regime in China. | ||
| And they know they're taking our jobs. | ||
| I mean, people, working people all across the country, not just in Missouri, but I know Missouri best. | ||
| And working people know they're taking our jobs. | ||
| They're ripping us off on trade. | ||
| They're stealing us blind. | ||
| They know that. And they're tired. | ||
| of administration after administration, reaching back to the Clintons and then the Bushes, and now Biden being soft on China, rolling out the red carpet for China, and making China rich while America gets poorer. | ||
| Why would we want to do that? | ||
| We need to be doing the opposite. Senator, you've gone to some of the finest schools in our nation, and now you're a senator, a very young senator here in the nation's capital. | ||
| Why is it that our institutions, and because your amendment was voted down, what doesn't this capital and the elites in this country get that the working class folks in Missouri do about our existential threat of the Chinese Communist Party, sir? | ||
| Well, the elites are totally insulated, Steve, because they can buy their way. | ||
| out of this economic pain. | ||
| They're not the ones who've lost their jobs. | ||
| China's been great for Wall Street. | ||
| Let's tell the truth. There's a reason that the fat cats on Wall Street, and there's a reason that big pharma and the big multinational corporations, they love all of this China stuff. | ||
| They love cheap labor in China. | ||
| These are the same people who have shipped our jobs over to China. | ||
| They would rather pay slave wages in China. | ||
| To be honest, slave wages in China than pay good, upstanding American workers an honest wage. | ||
| So they love this arrangement. | ||
| They're all for it. They benefit from it. | ||
| And while the rest of America gets poorer and loses their jobs and loses their families and loses their communities and gets addicted to opioids, then the elites say, oh, it's so too bad. | ||
| I mean, those poor people in middle America, they just don't have any moral fiber. | ||
| You know, what a bunch of BS. It is the people on the coast, the elites, The rich people who have had a great deal with China, who are ripping off and scamming the rest of the country, and this has got to stop. | ||
| It is time to make the heartland of this country strong again, and we've got to stand up to China to do it. | ||
| Let's go. I'm going to play a clip. | ||
| The coastal elites, the Atlantic Magazine and Joe Scarborough today, took a direct shot at the faithful, the hardworking working class and middle class in Missouri that are faith-based. | ||
| Let's play this. I would like your response. | ||
| Let's play the clip. And that's my challenge, always my challenge to those who talk about this. | ||
| Go through every single beatitude in the Sermon of the Mouth. | ||
| Every single one. | ||
| Blessed are the merciful. | ||
| Blessed are the meek. | ||
| Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness. | ||
| I mean, I can go, blessed are the merciful, those who show mercy. | ||
| I can go through them all. | ||
| He is literally the antithesis of every single one. | ||
| They tie it in a few minutes. | ||
| We don't have time to play the whole thing. | ||
| They tie it back to Trump supporters, that the MAGA movement, America First, the working class in this nation, the populist nationalist movement is the problem, and particularly the evangelical and traditional Catholic. | ||
| It ties back directly. | ||
| I think the lessons of your book, Manhood, The Masculine Virtues, American Needs, and I think it illuminates the firestorm that this book has caused by folks like at the editorial desk at Atlantic Magazine. | ||
| Your thoughts, Senator Hawley? | ||
| Well, you know, it's quite a lot to be lectured by the Most Holy Reverend Joe Scarborough and his episcopacy, his priesthood, who, first of all, spend all their time denigrating faithful Christians, Conservative Jews, Orthodox Catholics, you know, they normally want to hear nothing from these people, and then it's all about how we're not following our true faith. | ||
| Give me a break. I mean, I notice the Beatitudes don't say, blessed are the idiots. | ||
| You know, I mean, might it be that Christians out there decided, you know what, Donald Trump says he's actually going to stand up and put pro-life judges on the bench. | ||
| Donald Trump says he's going to do something for our families by bringing jobs back from China. | ||
| Maybe that was what we would call good, sound, strategic voting. | ||
| But, oh no, you're supposed to do what the elites tell you to do, and if you don't, then you're not a real Christian. | ||
| And then these people wonder, why is it that Christians don't want to have anything to do with them and don't listen to anything they say? | ||
| This is why. I mean, my gosh. | ||
| The sanctimony here is unbelievable, Steve. | ||
| But let's get back to your point, which is that the working people of this country, they've had enough. | ||
| They know what their true interests are, and they've had enough of these lectures from the elites. | ||
| I don't know. The book is fabulous, and I've pushed this to everybody I know that's a must-read. | ||
| I got to ask you, I don't know if in the title, if it's manhood or the subtitle, the masculine virtues that's triggered the progressive left the most. | ||
| What are your thoughts? Because they hate this book. | ||
| I mean, hate. And they are on a jihad against you personally. | ||
| Senator Hawley, your thoughts? | ||
| I think it's all of the above. | ||
| They hate the whole concept of manhood and womanhood, as we know. | ||
| They want to erase women. | ||
| They want to erase men. | ||
| These are the people who say there is no such thing as gender. | ||
| The links that they've gone to, the craziness they've gone to, they hate that part. | ||
| They hate talking about virtue and character because they're opposed to all those things. | ||
| The book is full of talk about the Bible. | ||
| They hate that for the reasons we were just talking about. | ||
| They detest faith talk. | ||
| They look down on, as we just saw, the clip you just saw, they look down on people of faith, especially if they're working-class people. | ||
| They think we're stupid. So the whole book is a massive trigger and I think it really lays bare the battle lines, the dividing lines in this country. | ||
| Are we going to protect the working class and the faith and the values of working people in this country? | ||
| Or are we going to become a nation of secular androgynous consumers? | ||
| Because that's what the left wants. | ||
| You saw in Glendale, California a week or so ago the Armenian dad standing up at this school board meeting. | ||
| That's going to happen again. We're going to have some of those guys on trying to end of the week because school board is going to meet I think next week. | ||
| You also saw at Dodger Stadium 5,000 folks show up to protest the desecration event that was taking place. | ||
| 80 to 90 percent Hispanic, 50 percent of the crowd Hispanic men. | ||
| What is your message to men out there? | ||
| What is Josh Hawley's call to action as we sit here in June in the year of our Lord, 2023, where the nation is where it is? | ||
| What's your call to action? I just say that, men, if you want to change this nation, it depends on you. | ||
| You can change the destiny of your family. | ||
| You can change the destiny of your neighborhood, and you can change the destiny of this nation, but it's going to take you. | ||
| No amount of electing this or that politician or passing this or that law. | ||
| Listen, we need better laws for sure, and we need better politicians, no doubt. | ||
| But it's going to take you standing up for your family, standing up for your faith, standing up for your work, your job, your community. | ||
| If you'll do that, if the men of this country will do that, we'll change the direction of this country, no doubt about it. | ||
| But we're right on it. | ||
| We're down to it. It depends on the men stepping up. | ||
| One of the issues we hear from men when we go around the nation, how can you provide air cover here? | ||
| One of the reasons the moms have been so active in this parental rights movement, and the dads now, we see the Armenian dads and what happened with the Hispanic fathers the other day, people are saying, I'm afraid for my job. | ||
| This woke culture, I will get canceled at work and I will be let go. | ||
| In my rank order, I got to put food on the table. | ||
| What do you say to those men and what do you say for folks like yourself that are here to provide air cover for them? | ||
| Well, I think your point about air cover is vital. | ||
| My commitment to them is I will do everything that I can to stand up for you and to fight your fight and to drag this into public. | ||
| It's my job. To drag this fight into public and make the people in the Biden administration and elsewhere who are pushing this radical anti-gender, anti-man, anti-woman agenda, make them account for it in public. | ||
| So I'm going to do everything I can to keep fighting on that front. | ||
| But I just say to men that this is a time to be bold. | ||
| You don't have to be controversy-seeking. | ||
| You know, I mean, listen, it's important that you provide for your family. | ||
| But I think that taking a stand when you're pushed, you got to defend your family. | ||
| And part of defending your family is saying, No, I don't want biological men in my girl's locker room. | ||
| Let's not say for her I don't want that. | ||
| One other point on this, Steve, though, this gets back to the economics, and you know this. | ||
| Part of what the left has done in this country is one of the reasons they wanted to send blue-collar jobs overseas. | ||
| Is that the more they get rid of our critical workers, the more they get rid of those blue-collar men who are the backbone of our economy, the more they can control the professional elites, right? | ||
| Because the corporate types always have to answer to HR. They always have to eat the corporate line. | ||
| Workers in this country have historically been independent, and the left wants to kill their independence. | ||
| The book is Manhood, The Masculine Virtues, American Needs. | ||
| Senator Josh Hawley, his second one, The First Tyranny of Big Tech, I want to compliment Regnery and the team for having the courage to publish this book. | ||
| Senator Hawley, how do people find out more about you? | ||
| How do they follow you on social media? | ||
| Hey, you can follow me at Hawley Mo on Twitter, Josh Hawley Mo on Instagram and Facebook, and you can get the book wherever books are sold, Amazon, Books A Million, you name it. | ||
| The masculine virtues American needs. | ||
| Senator Hawley, thank you for fighting the fight against the Chinese Communist Party, standing up for American workers in Missouri and throughout our great nation, sir. | ||
| Appreciate it. Thank you for having me. | ||
| This is what it's going to take, right? | ||
| In this new thing that's coming together, this is what it's going to take. | ||
| People standing up for the traditional values of this country, the working class families, working class people, the middle class, We need people to step up to the plate now because this is a defining moment. | ||
| This is that hinge of history. | ||
| It's the reason this audience is so powerful. | ||
| It's the reason people want access to you. | ||
| They understand you're doers. | ||
| You're action-oriented. | ||
| You want actionable information. | ||
| Okay, we continue on today. | ||
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| Okay, I want to bring in now, and by the way, I'm going to have more to say about the George Scarborough situation, but I want to bring in Frank Gaffney. | ||
| Frank, I want your assessment of Tony Blinken. | ||
| The Financial Times of London lead story tells me hails progress. | ||
| She hails progress in Blinken's ability to try to stabilize the relationship. | ||
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Your thoughts, sir? Steve, I agree with Josh Hawley and my colleague Brad Thayer. | |
| This was a debacle, and predictably so. | ||
| This guy, Tony Blinken, is not only way, way past the Peter Principle in terms of his competency for a job of this kind of importance, but he's a controlled asset of the Chinese Communist Party on top of it. | ||
| And consequently, I think what's been demonstrated is that we're under the Biden administration at the direction of their masters in Beijing on a trajectory that I characterize as the end of Pax Americana at a golden age in which our benign leadership in the world has benefited countless billions of people in favor of a post-America model in which it's all about global governance with Chinese characteristics. | ||
| And just to give you a couple of examples of this, global governance is one of the terms that is much in favor in Beijing at the moment, and Geneva, and New York, and some quarters in Washington, too. | ||
| Global stability was something that they were touting out of this. | ||
| Global health, of course, is this driving agenda of the World Health Organization, a Chinese Communist Party-controlled international organization that is, as you know, Steve, seeking to give it the authority to tell us when we have a public health emergency of international concern and what we have to do about it. | ||
| Then there's global digital IDs, which is an infrastructure that's part of that World Health Organization. | ||
| And then there's global taxes. | ||
| I mean, it goes on and on. | ||
| It's all about one world government, and that happens to be the agenda of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Lincoln is advancing it, as is his boss nominally, at least Joe Biden, or more to the point, I think. | ||
| I call it the Obama-Biden 3.0. | ||
| This has been really the game plan of Barack Obama and his minions who staff largely this administration. | ||
| And when you throw on top of it the deliberate efforts they're making to end the reserve status of the dollar, which you've written about and talked about a lot, and the dismantling Let's be honest, the dismantling of our Constitutional Republic here at home, freedom by freedom by freedom, over the side. | ||
| What we're looking at really is a post-America environment. | ||
| And I just have to say, nobody gave Joe Biden a mandate to undertake such a fundamental transformation. | ||
| I don't think they gave Barack Obama one either, to be honest. | ||
| But nonetheless, that's what they're working towards. | ||
| And the question before the House at the moment is, will the cumulative effects of all of the damage that they're doing be irreversible before we can finally get Joe Biden out of office? | ||
| I'm prayerful that that's going to happen sooner than later. | ||
| November 2024. | ||
| But it has to because the country is going to be gone by then. | ||
| We have to fight this at every step of the way right now in the House, every tool that we have available. | ||
| Real quickly, when you say controlled asset, will you describe that piece of nomenclature for our audience? | ||
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Sure. It's a term that our colleague Sam Fattis has applied based on his two decades of As an undercover asset himself, agent of the officer of the Central Intelligence Agency, recruiting and running people in foreign countries for our government. | |
| He says in the terminology of the trade, a controlled asset describes what Joe Biden is, and it basically means they do what they're told. | ||
| He said you don't have Assets that are uncontrolled. | ||
| If they don't work for you, if they're not reliably going to do what you tell them to do when you tell them to do it, they're not your assets. | ||
| They're not your partners in the enterprise you're about, which in our case is trying to preserve freedom in our own country, most especially. | ||
| In the Chinese Communist case, it's trying to take it down. | ||
| And they're hard at it. | ||
| Steve, I just keep bringing people back. | ||
| We've done the book, The Indictment, with your help. | ||
| I keep bringing people back to this fundamental question. | ||
| If as a result of all of this, and I think it's further in evidence after this meeting, all the talk about dialogue and so on notwithstanding, we are at the cusp of a shooting war with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| It is unimaginable that we could have as the Commander-in-Chief of the United States military in such a moment. | ||
| A guy who is working for the Chinese Communist Party, our mortal enemy. | ||
| Yet that's where we are. | ||
| It's, as I say, an intolerable situation. | ||
| It has to be changed. | ||
| Frank, how do people get to the book and how do they get to all the great work you're putting up? | ||
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Theindictmentbook.com for the book, presentdangerchina.com for the work that went into it from the Committee on the Present Danger China, securefreedom.org, our work at the Center for Security Policy, and of course, securingamerica.tv. | |
| You can find our show and radio and commentaries all there. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. You have to immerse yourself now in this effort. | ||
| Frank, thank you very much. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. This has to be fought at every step. | ||
| It has to be fought at every step. | ||
| Because this plays into the Thucydides trap. | ||
| This is where they acknowledge that China's the rising power and blink into these guys saying we're the declining power. | ||
| If you buy into that thesis, only bad things happen. | ||
| And they've bought into it hard. | ||
| Okay, short break, 90 seconds. | ||
| Back for the second hour of the War Room. | ||
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