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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
The people had a belly full of it. | ||
I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
It's going to happen. | ||
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
Thanks for joining us. | ||
Remember when Steve Bannon was first on the scene, you know, let's blow the whole thing up. | ||
When you're seeing elected Republicans who have been in office for years, taking on the DOJ, making arguments that they know aren't true, what's their plan? | ||
So distrust across the American people? | ||
Well, it's interesting that you bring up Steve Bannon because he advises a number of these Republicans behind the scenes, and they appear on his show in which they discuss some of these very tactics that they use then on the floor of Congress and in their committees. | ||
But yes, I mean, one of the things is to blow up the public confidence in the justice system and in institutions, In this case, the idea is to attack the FBI and the Justice Department as harsh as they can and to take whatever steps possible to make it unpleasant to ever bring charges against Donald Trump again or continue with the cases. | ||
And if that means issuing subpoenas, hauling in various I mean, the latest thing they're going to do is to try to block funding for a new FBI headquarters in retaliation for this case being brought. | ||
And so they're trying to make it as painful as possible, and they're acting, you know, sort of as a As a defense counsel in the Hall of Congress for Donald Trump. | ||
The author of the resolution, this Representative Luna person, who I don't think I've ever met until today, when she literally came wheeling by me in one of those scooters that you have when you injure your leg and shouted out something of the effect that, you know, she wasn't done with me. | ||
She was going to bring back a new resolution next week and this time it would pass. | ||
And one of the reporters asked me, After witnessing this, this spectacle, has it always been like this? | ||
Or have things just gotten so much worse? | ||
And I have to say, sadly, things have gotten so much worse. | ||
Okay. A lot to go through today, and we're going to get you all the insight of baseball. | ||
Stephanie Rule once again ahead of the curve. | ||
She kind of gave a preamble because it's much deeper than what their Hill correspondent said. | ||
Talked about. Today's New York Times actually has, and there's two articles today we're going to connect dots here. | ||
We got the lead story on The Hill, which is about the coming government shutdown and the appropriations process and everything like that. | ||
That's a misdirection play. | ||
We're going to get into all that. That's trying to lull you to sleep. | ||
That the rhino Republicans are actually doing something on Capitol Hill when all they're going to do is fall to get a CR on the bus. | ||
It's all coming. All the lobbyists are already working on it. | ||
And they're trying to say, oh, no, no, no, no. | ||
We're gonna have these deep cuts. | ||
D.C. Drain is going to be here in a second. | ||
Talk about warriors like Anna, Paulina, Luna, and really the votes that matter. | ||
You saw the 20 cowards and the 20 traitors yesterday were getting more of that. | ||
D.C. Drain is doing a great job naming names. | ||
Additionally, the New York Times lead story, Jonathan Swan, Maggie Haberman, Charlie Savage. | ||
This is a follow-on to Axios' piece before Swan left about the administrative state. | ||
And it stars, this piece this morning stars Russ Vogt. | ||
And Jeff Clark. We're going to have both of them on here this morning to tease some things we're working on. | ||
And then I think hopefully Jeff is going to join us at 6 o'clock and give us a deeper drill down. | ||
This is about the deconstruction of the administrative state, about this fantasy on the left of an independent DOJ and an independent FBI. But more importantly, how the legal profession is the connective tissue or the infestation. | ||
Inside the entire apparatus, and we're going to start ripping that out like you rip out weeds. | ||
We're going to get to all that this morning. | ||
Massive news coming out of Georgia. | ||
Massive news coming out of the situation of Mike Lindell. | ||
We've got it all. Let me start with DC Drano. | ||
DC Drano, you just put up... | ||
This amazing thing about Shift, and this tells you the warriors from the non-warriors. | ||
Anna Paulina Luna is confrontational and aggressive because you have to be confrontational and aggressive. | ||
They're there to rip your face off, but they want to play all gentlemanly. | ||
I mean, they don't want to play that. | ||
They want to go to the media and say, oh, this is so terrible. | ||
It's such a spectacle. Your thoughts, Rogan? | ||
They don't even want to talk about Ana Paulina. | ||
So it's actually progress that Schiff mentioned her by name. | ||
You know, they'll talk about George Santos. | ||
They'll talk about Marjorie. They don't even want to mention Ana because she is everything that they claim to be. | ||
She's Hispanic. She's a veteran. | ||
She's a woman. And she is savage. | ||
She's obviously very smart. | ||
And I thought that story was hilarious, how after The censure vote failed. | ||
She wheels by him and talks smack and says she's going to go after him again. | ||
You know, it's refreshing to actually have Republicans that fight. | ||
But what people don't understand or forget, she's seven months pregnant. | ||
She has a busted leg. | ||
She's wheeling around. | ||
You know, she's got bigger balls than anyone in the entire GOP. And she's a seven month pregnant lady going after shift. | ||
So God bless her. | ||
We love what she's doing. Talk to me, I said yesterday, I put up on Getter and it got retweeted about the effete intellectualism of people like Massey. | ||
Walk through the other collaborationists, the 20, and they had every excuse in the book of why we didn't bring the hammer down on Shifty Shift. | ||
Yeah, so the two main concerns were that it was the fine that they had the issue with, a $16 million fine. | ||
Massey and some of his people thought that it was unconstitutional, which many of us have disagreed. | ||
And the other people thought the fine was unwise, right? | ||
So let's start with the unconstitutional. | ||
He's citing the 27th Amendment that says you can't change a congressional member's salary during the term, right? | ||
This is so they can't jack up and, you know, rob the Treasury more than they already do. | ||
He's saying that, well, I got fined by Nancy Pelosi $500 for masks, and I don't think anyone should be able to have fines. | ||
I think that's crazy. But here's the difference between Republicans and Democrats. | ||
Democrats will pass something that is blatantly unconstitutional and say, stop me in court. | ||
Do your best. See you three years from now when the judge strikes out half of what we got through, right? | ||
Republicans will say, well, maybe this isn't exactly perfectly good. | ||
Let's not even do it at all. | ||
And that's just crazy. We have to change that mindset. | ||
We obviously don't want to do unconstitutional things. | ||
But if there's a gray area like Mike Pence on J6, go for it. | ||
If the Constitution is silent on it, that means there's a green light. | ||
People need to know this and let the Dems fight this in court. | ||
Let Adam Schiff spend two to three years of legal bills fighting this to the Supreme Court. | ||
And in the end, it might actually help Massey's case. | ||
If he does prove to be unconstitutional, Then Massey didn't have to do anything. | ||
And now we have this policy in place. | ||
So why not leave it up to Schiff? | ||
Why are we waiting for a Democrat to stiff us with a $10 million fine? | ||
Then we have to fight in court. | ||
So that's just, it's weak and it's a weak argument and it's a weak mindset. | ||
And then, you know, the unwise. | ||
Oh, it's unwise to penalize Democrats that, what, lead two impeachments on our president? | ||
Spy on him? Lie to the American people for four years? | ||
Rig the election? It's unwise to punish them? | ||
These are the cowardly – and it's not just – it's not about punishment. | ||
It's about accountability. This is the effete intellectualism, the justification of the establishment here. | ||
This is pure Mitch McConnell. | ||
That's why Massey – you can talk about all this libertarian stuff. | ||
He's just a – A apparatchik of the McConnell Republican establishment party out there. | ||
That's got to be broken up. People should be ashamed. | ||
Massey is the reason we got this. | ||
Massey's vote on rules with another effete intellectualism is the reason that you're going to have five or six trillion dollars of new debt. | ||
Okay? How's that said out there in the Commonwealth of Kentucky? | ||
DC Drano, this is an evolving story and it's going to get heated. | ||
Correct me if I'm wrong, Anna Paulina Luna told Schiff, dude, I'm coming for you and I'm coming back next week. | ||
Where do we stand on that? She is. | ||
She's going to be bringing another privileged resolution to censure Schiff. | ||
This one is unfortunately not going to have the fine. | ||
And, you know, getting censured is a slap on the wrist, right? | ||
It's good to have in the history books. | ||
It's a moral victory. But the actual teeth of this resolution were in the fine. | ||
So we can thank these coward 20 for stopping this, for allowing future Democrats to get away with spying on the president and lying to the American people. | ||
And I just want to call out one person in particular, Mike Turner of Ohio. | ||
He's the current chair of the House Intel Committee. | ||
He voted to protect Adam Schiff, his intel buddy. | ||
And from what I'm hearing, he has been a roadblock against actual MAGA investigations against Russia collusion, against CCP financial interests with U.S. business leaders and politicians. | ||
And I'm going to be doing a deeper dive on who's actually in his pocket. | ||
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And I have a feeling it's got some China ties. | |
We're going to have Brian Costello and Colonel Derek Harvey again on tomorrow. | ||
There you go. Exactly on this topic. | ||
Mike Turner is controlled by Shifty Shift. | ||
Mike Turner has no earthy idea what he's doing. | ||
I think he's the mayor of Dayton. | ||
He's not intellectually up to the task at hand. | ||
He kowtows to shift. | ||
He's avoided Sequoia. | ||
And the reason he's avoided Sequoia, they're a major funder of McCarthy and Scalise. | ||
We've got the receipts. | ||
Mike Turner has shut down an investigation of the Goldman Sachs of venture capital, Sequoia Capital, which is a funding mechanism of the Democratic Party. | ||
They've tossed some crumbs to the Republicans to get them back off. | ||
This is the biggest single scandal because Sequoia has taken American pension fund money and funded Chinese military artificial intelligence. | ||
All through Shen, right? | ||
The CCP operative. | ||
That was the head of the firm. They just broke the firm up into a couple of pieces. | ||
After our investigation and onslaught, they decided to bifurcate. | ||
It doesn't work. Mike Turner has an investigation he shut down. | ||
Mike Turner is as bad as they get. | ||
This is the kind of guy you've got to turf out. | ||
You're not going to change the country where you've got scumbags like this. | ||
These are total scumbags. | ||
This is why he didn't want to hold Shift accountable. | ||
Rogan, how do people get to your social media? | ||
DC underscore Drano. | ||
I'm on everything. Going to be dropping some heat on Twitter. | ||
You just broke the story, but I'm going to be doing a deep dive into Sequoia and who they got in their pocket. | ||
It's a damn shame that we got people like Mike Turner leading the House Intel Committee. | ||
Damn shame. This Sequoia story is going to be the biggest story of the summer. | ||
It is shocking of the level of this. | ||
Rogan, glad you were on the case. | ||
Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. | ||
Thank you, and God bless. Anna Paulina Luna, a real tiger. | ||
Let me go to Mike Lindell. | ||
I got Mike Lindell. Mike, we left you yesterday. | ||
You were about to be arrested again in federal court for live streaming into War Room. | ||
What happened yesterday? Well, I did get reprimanded for that in the hallway there by the, you know, live streaming from the federal courthouse. | ||
But we were in there, Steve. | ||
It went great, actually. | ||
The article came out today. | ||
It said, some nine months later, Mike Lindell is still fighting to get his seized cell phone back in federal court. | ||
There it is. And the judges in that article, everybody, it says, you know, to backtrack a little, on September 13, 2022, the FBI surrounded me at a Hardee's in Mankato, Minnesota, coming back from a duck hunting trip. | ||
And what I did is I sued the government and the FBI one week later. | ||
They took my cell phone and Nowadays, you take a cell phone. | ||
It's not like taking it 20 years ago. | ||
That was my whole livelihood. | ||
And one of the judges yesterday in the courtroom said, this isn't like the old days. | ||
He said the same thing. He said, you take this guy's cell phone. | ||
He actually said thousands of employees, this big company. | ||
And what if he was doing something a few days prior? | ||
You took his livelihood and... | ||
So the judges said, you know, you haven't given his cell phone back, and it's been months later, and you could mirror it in 12 seconds. | ||
Now, the lady didn't know what to say from the government. | ||
She kind of went, blah, blah, blah. | ||
And he said, when do you plan on giving it back? | ||
And she said, well, we're going to keep it indefinitely. | ||
And the judges were visibly upset. | ||
It's like... It was a common sense thing, Steve. | ||
They're going, you know, this doesn't even make sense. | ||
Why would you do this? They go, why do you need the physical phone when you could give it back with his... | ||
Because there's no answer. | ||
This is the American Gestapo. | ||
This is why we're shutting down the FBI. They're a lawless organization. | ||
Mike Lindell has lawyers. Mike Lindell's been in court spending tens of millions of dollars. | ||
They can't contact his lawyers and say, hey, we'd like to take a copy of the phone. | ||
No, they got a surrounding to try to humiliate him at something. | ||
This is the jackbooted FBI. They're going to keep it indefinitely. | ||
They're going to keep it indefinitely so they can screw up your business. | ||
This is the jackbooted American Gestapo FBI. Hang over a second. | ||
We got Mike Lindell is going to be with us. | ||
Garland Favrito, big breaking news out of Georgia. | ||
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Also, the Russ vote is going to be here. | |
Major lead story in the New York Times about the program to deconstruct the administrative state all next in the war room. | ||
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Let's take down the CCP! Your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
Okay, welcome back. | ||
I'm going to get to some economics and capital markets in the next hour. | ||
I want to go to Russ, vote now. | ||
Can we get this story in the New York Times? | ||
Two stories today that we want to make sure you have inside baseball. | ||
One is about the Hill process. | ||
Both of them deal with Rust vote. | ||
One is the lead stirring the hill about, you know, big, you know, potential government shutdown. | ||
GOP gets very worried, knitted brow. | ||
The cartel's looking for a workaround. | ||
They're heading towards a CR and they're heading towards an omnibus. | ||
Let me just make sure you understand this, what's going to happen over your Christmas holidays. | ||
And now they're doing the appropriations and all this. | ||
I just heard the appropriations are not going to take 22 and cut down Russ's vote. | ||
They're going to use that and go up. | ||
It's all a sham. It's all performative. | ||
They're going to try to break the good 20. | ||
The HERO20 next week by putting up messaging bills that look like they're tough on immigration and tough on illegal aliens and tough on the invasion, tough on all the things War Room likes, to think the War Room posits. | ||
Oh, no, we've got to pass. The stupid games are going to stop. | ||
I'm going to stop. The other article is quite perceptive. | ||
Maggie Haberman, Jonathan Swan, Charlie Savage, New York Times lead story on the deconstruction of the administrative state the serious way, starting at DOJ and FBI, this fantasy that they're independent. | ||
It stars our own Russ Vogt and it stars Brother Clark, Jeff Clark. | ||
Russ, walk us through both of these breaking news stories and quite frankly you're the architect here. | ||
Take it away. Well, let me start with the first one, and you're entirely right in the sense that in the aftermath of the debt limit deal, the appropriations process and the fight, and we'll put the fight in air quotes, is entirely performative. | ||
They are not going to be at fiscal year 22 levels. | ||
They could be. They could try. | ||
But they have figured out a new way to gain the system, which is to take money, big chunks of money that are sitting there, largely not going to be spent, And to use those, they call them rescissions, to be able to pay for keeping agency spending going at current law levels. | ||
And so this is a trick, and sometimes it confuses conservatives because you're like, you don't want me to take this... | ||
COVID spending? Yeah, I want you to take COVID spending. | ||
I do. I want you to cut it. I don't want you to use it as a pay-for for other higher government spending. | ||
And conservatives fall for this every single time, right? | ||
Because it scores and they get to use it as a pay-for. | ||
So what we saw yesterday was House Appropriators gave us their roadmap for them to pass these really tough bills. | ||
None of them are very tough. And ultimately, they will lead to an omnibus bill that we cannot stop because of Thomas Massey on the Rules Committee who doesn't give us that third vote. | ||
Now, they're in the middle of negotiations over the power sharing agreement. | ||
If those negotiations bear fruit, thanks to heroes like Matt Gaetz and Lauren Boebert and Chip Roy, if those create a new power share dynamic, we could be back in business. | ||
We're not, as of right now, this moment. | ||
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On the New York Times article, Hang on, hang on, hang on. | |
I want to put a pin in this for the audience of the fight next week. | ||
Because what they're going to try to do is keep the floor open and have more really tough immigration bills and shut down the invasion bills so we cede the floor. | ||
My recommendation, strong recommendation, and I know the posse will have my back here, is what we want is a real power-sharing agreement signed in blood. | ||
Shut the floor down until that happens. | ||
There's nothing that can be moved Now that we've got pistol bracelets, there's nothing that can be moved that's so urgent that we need to do that before the power sharing. | ||
So we're giving you some inside baseball, but this is the titanic fight that's going to happen next week. | ||
Now let's pivot, Russ, to the New York Times. | ||
The New York Times has given a report about all the work that's being done to change the paradigms that bound us the most. | ||
And one of those that I saw in the Oval Office with President Trump, or you'd be in these meetings in which, you know, you had these artificial, you couldn't have the President talk to the Attorney General, and the White House Counselor would say, well, Mr. | ||
President, we can't have that conversation. | ||
What? Like, he's the President of the United States. | ||
It's his Attorney General. | ||
That is an entirely appropriate conversation about the law enforcement priorities of the administration, and yet that was a paradigm, that was a worldview that Republican lawyers, Federalist Society lawyers, adopted that somehow the Department of Justice is an independent agency, and you see that even worse with the FBI. You see it across government, but the Department of Justice is ground zero for the weaponization of government. | ||
Everything goes through the Department of Justice when it comes to these critical questions, not just from the standpoint of how they've weaponized law enforcement, but so many of the authorities that every agency is using on behalf of administration is going through the Office of Legal Counsel. | ||
So these are incredibly important. | ||
I would say if you say, where's the number one fight that we have to deconstruct the administrative state? | ||
I would say Department of Justice is one of those places because there's so much corruption there ideologically and from the standpoint of ethically with some of the bad apples that we've seen. | ||
So this notion that we're planting the flag, the Department of Justice is not independent. | ||
And we will make sure that that is a governing doctrine that is shared by anyone who comes in, and hopefully it's President Donald J. Trump. | ||
They're trying to flip this as we're no longer the law and order party. | ||
This is what they're trying to do. This is going to be a major element of the 2024 campaign. | ||
I just want to make sure people understand this. | ||
Russ, it also goes, the railhead of all this is DOJ, but it permeates the entire, the connective tissue or the fungus that connects all of the administrative state are the lawyers. | ||
The whole thing is run by lawyers. | ||
You have some policy makers, but almost all lawyers. | ||
And that is, in deconstructing this, whether it's the FTC or the SEC or Agriculture Department or Labor, all of it, you've got to get to the railhead of this. | ||
That the cartel is essentially run by the legal community. | ||
And that is, at the end of the day, part of the target to take down the cartel. | ||
Am I correct on that, sir? | ||
Entirely. Next to the agency head, the most important part of any organization within the federal government is often the General Counsel. | ||
And so for me at OMB, my right arm was Mark Paoletta, General Counsel, now the Praetorian Guard for OMB. Clarence and Ginny Thomas right now and doing a host of things to fight back against vaccine mandates. | ||
But without Mark Paoletta at Office of Management and Budget, you're fighting with one arm. | ||
And it's not your most powerful arm. | ||
And so you've got to have the lawyers... | ||
with the right legal paradigms, and unfortunately we have an entire bench of lawyers that don't understand the constitution, the actual constitution, not the constitution that's been amended by a hundred years of leftism, the actual constitution. | ||
Oh, and by the way, we put those same lawyers on the courts so that they're now deciding against us in voter integrity cases. | ||
So that is why these legal paradigms are so important, and we're trying to do it outside of government so that we can impose them on the system. | ||
By the way, Russ, before I let you go, I just gotta have you commit that we'll give, instead of, Massey can get off his effete intellectualism by getting the lecture from Russ Vogt about the shredding of the Constitution. | ||
So when you make these bizarre arguments about the Constitution, you have to understand what we're actually dealing with. | ||
Thank you for changing the schedule to come on today. | ||
This New York Times, we're going to get it up, a major piece, one of a series, because they're in total freak-out mode. | ||
Because now you're going to the heart of the beast, Russ, about the way the city really works. | ||
The imperial capital, about how it really works. | ||
And now they understand they have smart, tough people that are going to the heart of it and going to dismantle all of this. | ||
So Russ, thanks. How did they get to the center? | ||
How did they get to your social media? | ||
Particularly... Twitter, Russ, what I like about you, you're like Grace Chong. | ||
You're a serious professional, but you'll get into a flame. | ||
You, Davis, and Chong will get into flame wars in a New York second. | ||
That's what I love about you guys. Super professionals, but always on the trigger. | ||
How did they get there, Russ? | ||
Well, President Trump taught me a little bit about how to use Twitter, but folks need to go to the site, americarenewing.com, and check out Jeff Clark's paper on this Department of Justice not being independent. | ||
A really important read. Huge. | ||
We're going to have Jeff on later. Thanks, Russ. | ||
I appreciate you taking the time. | ||
You bet. Thanks. Let me go to, I tell you, Mike Lindell's got to bounce. | ||
Let me get, Mike, I'm going to get to Garland in a second. | ||
Mike, tee up Garland blockbuster report yesterday, finally released. | ||
Tell us what we're going to see with Garland. | ||
Put it in perspective. You've been fighting this fight since day one, sir. | ||
Yeah, it's one of the most important reports that's ever been come out. | ||
It's been hidden from the public, everybody. | ||
Stop from you all seeing it for almost three years. | ||
This was in 2017, a case started against Kirk and Brad Rasenberger, the Secretary of State of Georgia. | ||
Dr. Halderman and another guy, they're experts by the government, got to look inside the machine, specifically Dominion. | ||
And what they found, they came out with the report in the summer of 2021, but they wouldn't let us all see it. | ||
They stopped it from being released. | ||
Then they finally released it six months later to Dominion. | ||
They gave the report to Dominion. | ||
Then the public says, we want it. | ||
Secretary of State asked for that report because they had to make decisions about these machines. | ||
Then the government said, let's release it to CISA. So the government released it to the government. | ||
The government came out, the CISA report and said, you got to see this. | ||
This is terrible. These machines, what's going on in here? | ||
Finally, yesterday, or Halderman, actually on June 5th this year, said, hey, if this isn't released, states are going to make very bad decisions, and they need to go to paper ballots hand counted. | ||
This report got released yesterday, one of the most important things to come out of any court ever, I believe. | ||
This is perfect timing, and Garland Faberito was going to go through it with you all. | ||
So important, everybody. | ||
Yeah. We're going to have a presentation by Garland. | ||
Mike, real quickly, you're making spots today up there at MyPillow. | ||
Walk me through. You've got 30 seconds. | ||
Tell me why they should go to the War Room Square today. | ||
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We're offering the towels. | ||
Right now, you can get the towels on special, the six-pack, for $25. | ||
Go to the War Room Square. | ||
Go to MyPillow.com. | ||
We're closing them out. | ||
We're closing them out. A close-out sale. | ||
We're making room in our manufacturing for the MyPillow 2.0 that you've all made possible. | ||
So get them before they're gone. | ||
And this is what we're doing today. | ||
We're doing a commercial for TV for the... | ||
The TV of the world, and we're very excited. | ||
But we're giving you this special first, so go to the War Room Special on MyPillow.com and get that now. | ||
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Mike, let's get that phone back from the FBI. You've got to get back to running this business. | ||
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We need the phone. Release the phone, Mike Lindell. | |
Love you, brother. Release the phone. | ||
Okay, Garland Fabrito in the machines in Georgia next. | ||
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We rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CCP! | |
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
Okay, we're back. | ||
We have Garland Favrito from VoteGA. | ||
By the way, Garland, I haven't had a chance to thank you. | ||
We're trying to get some of the officials on here, but you had almost, I think, a clean sweep. | ||
In the Georgia Republican Party at the convention last weekend. | ||
Absolutely amazing. These are people, 70 % of whom just came to politics in the last couple of years. | ||
A huge number of the war room posse. | ||
I want to give a hat tip to everybody in Georgia. | ||
Precinct strategy, all of it. | ||
Sweeping victory. Control the Republican Party down there. | ||
Absolutely. Garland's independent, so talk to me about who Haldeman is, why this is important, why was it held up, and then you've got a presentation to walk through. | ||
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Let's go ahead and do it. Absolutely, Steve. | |
Again, as you said, it was a great victory this weekend at the Georgia GOP. All MAGA election integrity advocates swept all of the executive board positions in the state party. | ||
It's just amazing. Just to give you a little bit of background, Steve, real quick. | ||
Back in 2002, Georgia made its first unverifiable voting system purchase. | ||
It was the old paperless, direct recording electronic devices. | ||
Back at that time, I wrote to the secretary and said they were unconstitutional, as well as the evaluator, and they were not verifiable, not auditable. | ||
Fast forward, they went ahead and bought them anyway. | ||
Fast forward all the way to 2017, as Mike was saying, a lawsuit was filed, Curling v. | ||
Raffensperger. We had already gone to the Georgia Supreme Court and lost to try to ban the old system. | ||
In 2019, the U.S. District Court found that the old system was, in fact, unverifiable and banned them from future reuse. | ||
That was Judge Amy Totenberg. | ||
The lawsuit was Curling v. | ||
Raffensperger. At that time, Georgia went ahead and purchased a new system, which is equally as unverifiable and unsecure, as we're going to see in a minute. | ||
And that system was implemented, and the court then found that it violated two Georgia laws. | ||
Georgia requires the system to have a paper trail that is verifiable for human readable text and elective verifiable ballot. | ||
The U.S. District Court said it did not meet any one of these. | ||
That's the current system we're using. | ||
But she did not provide relief at that time. | ||
As part of all this, Dr. | ||
Haldeman has produced a report. | ||
Dr. Haldeman is fascinating because he was in 2007, he was on the Princeton University team that demonstrated before the Committee for House Administration how to hack the old machines. | ||
And he was part of that university team that was led by Professor Felton back in 2007. | ||
So he has been an expert ever since. | ||
He's a professor now at University of Michigan. | ||
And he was one of the expert witnesses in this case. | ||
He provided this particular report, but it has been sealed, as Mike said, for over two years. | ||
And finally, just yesterday, I believe, this report was released. | ||
And it has some amazing findings that basically says what we have been saying all along, what Mike has been saying, what you and I have been saying to so many people, that the system is very insecure, it can be hacked. | ||
So what Dr. | ||
Holman did is he looked at only the ballot marking device part of the system. | ||
This is limited to that. | ||
It doesn't actually even include the scanners, which are another incredibly vulnerable thing, which we have already found have been compromised in the 2020 election in Fulton County. | ||
So that's the background, Steve, of all of what's been going on that kind of sets up this report and the unsealing of it. | ||
And yesterday, if we could start maybe, Cameron, with slide two, I can walk through some of these. | ||
Hold on, hold on. I just want to make sure. | ||
I want you to go through the slides. | ||
Holloman's totally independent, right? | ||
He's some guy that's an expert in the field. | ||
He's a subject matter expert. | ||
He has no axe to grind on this, correct? | ||
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Absolutely. And if anything, he leans far more on the Democrat side than the Republican. | |
But as you said, he's an independent professor, certainly has no axe to grind, particularly for Donald Trump or any Republicans. | ||
I want to go to the slides. | ||
Last thing, this was a titanic fight to even get this released. | ||
Just give me a minute on why, I mean, this has been the biggest fight to get this released. | ||
Why was it so hard to get this thing revealed now that we see the information? | ||
But tell me why it was so hard. | ||
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That's a fascinating question, Steve, and I really don't have a concrete answer, but as you said, it was a titanic fight. | |
People from all over different organizations have requested that this report be released for the security of their own voting systems. | ||
The Secretary of State of Louisiana requested that it be released. | ||
OAN requested that it would be released for part of their lawsuit. | ||
I think Fox News as well, because Dominion is suing them. | ||
It's critical information, but it's critical to the security of elections in the country, because Dr. | ||
Hahnemann could have done the same thing to a different vendor as well. | ||
ES&S probably has a similar vulnerability. | ||
Okay, I want you to remember, we've never been machine guys here, because I think the way they stole it was obviously through the mail-in ballots and the signature verifications. | ||
Garland, I know you've been deep in that fight too. | ||
However, this report for the machine guys, the Mike Lindells and these guys, and the Jovan Pulitzers and others, let's go ahead and go through the slides, because this is pretty damning, what the professor said on an independent analysis. | ||
Go ahead, Garland, walk us through it. | ||
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Sure. Well, I'm going to pick up with slide two, if Cameron has those ready. | |
But basically, this is about what we call the Dominion ICX, which is the ballot marking device. | ||
And it says that, Dr. | ||
Hartman says that, I show that the ICX suffers from critical vulnerabilities that can be exploited to subvert all of its security mechanisms. | ||
He goes on to say that he demonstrates that these vulnerabilities provide multiple routes by which attackers can install the malicious software on Georgia ballot marking devices. | ||
And he continues on, he says, I explain how such malware can alter voters' votes while subverting all of the procedural protections practiced by the state. | ||
That's about as damning as you can get. | ||
Go on to slide three. | ||
He says that attackers can alter the QR codes on the printed ballots to modify voter selections. | ||
The QR code, Steve, as you know, contains the votes. | ||
The votes are accumulated out of the QR code. | ||
The system does not accumulate what the voter actually can see on text. | ||
And he also found that the attackers can forge or manipulate the smart cards that the ballot marking device uses to authenticate technicians, poll works, and voters. | ||
You can manipulate. | ||
He goes on to show how they are forged. | ||
He actually forged the cards and did all sorts of things as part of his analysis. | ||
So flipping on to the next slide, he says that the software update that Georgia installed in October 2020 left George's ballot marking devices in a state where anyone can install malware with only brief physical access to the machines. | ||
And he goes on to say, I showed that this problem can potentially be exploited in the polling place even by non-technical voters. | ||
Go on to the next slide, and he goes on to say, I demonstrate that attackers can execute arbitrary code with root supervisory privileges, which means that you have control of everything on the machine. | ||
And he says, by altering the election definition file that county workers copy to every BMD before each election. | ||
This has been the key point of our concerns, is that this election definition file comes from the state. | ||
And the state propagates this to every county, which propagates it to every voting machine. | ||
And Professor Hallman again says that attackers could exploit this to spread malware to all ballot marking devices across the county or the entire state. | ||
And we believe that has actually been done because in 2017, we found that the Secretary of State's election management server, the state server, was exposed to the internet for virtually anyone in the world to place malware on it. | ||
So head on to the next slide. | ||
The ICX contains numerous unnecessary Android applications. | ||
And he talks about a terminal emulator that has a supervisory command interface that overrides all of the access controls. | ||
So he goes on to say that an attacker can alter the ballot marking device's audit logs simply by opening them in the on-screen text editor application. | ||
So you could literally audit the audit logs just like you would create or change a Word document. | ||
That's how easy that would be. | ||
Going on to the next slide, he says that I developed a series of proof of concept attacks, which he goes over in his 96-page report. | ||
He says that illustrates how vulnerabilities in the ballot marking device could be used to change the personal votes of individual Georgia voters. | ||
It is very likely that there are other equally critical flaws that are yet to be discovered, as he goes on to say, because this report did not include everything that it could have, because he had limited resources as a result of the case that he was involved in. | ||
He said, but attackers only have to find one of the flaws. | ||
They don't have to find them all. | ||
He found, I don't know how many, probably a dozen or more. | ||
Next slide, he goes on to say that the ICX BMDs, that's the Dominion ICX ballot marking devices, are not sufficiently secured against technical compromise to withstand vote-altering attacks by bad actors who are likely to attack future elections in Georgia. | ||
I might add they may have already attacked future. | ||
The evidence shows that they've already attacked them here. | ||
Despite the addition of a paper trail, the malware can still change individual votes and most election outcomes without detection. | ||
Then we've got just one or two more slides. | ||
He goes on to say in the next slide that using vulnerable ICXBMDs for all in-person voters As Georgia does, greatly magnifies the security risk compared to jurisdictions that just use hand-marked paper ballots, but provide the ballot marking devices to the voters upon request. | ||
So in other words, if you have a voter with an impairment, they need a ballot marking device. | ||
But when you give this ballot marking device to every single voter, it increases the security risk by an incredible order of magnitude. | ||
Dr. Haldeman goes on to say that the critical vulnerabilities in the ICX indicate that it was developed without sufficient attention to security during design, software engineering, and testing. | ||
Certainly, I think that is true, because why would a vendor come out with a QR-coded voting system after we had 15 years of complaints against the unverifiable voting of the old paperless DREs? | ||
These systems, and it's not just Dominion. | ||
It's ES&S as well. | ||
They have one. They are ill-conceived from the point that they were originally designed. | ||
I tell you, Garland, just hang on. | ||
I'm going to get to the final one after the break. | ||
I'm going to take a short commercial break because I want to get to the final one. | ||
And pull back the camera and see where we are on this because this is pretty shocking. | ||
And what's shocking is they kept this under wraps and you had to pry this out. | ||
Why wasn't this out? | ||
Why didn't Roethlisberger and people want this out? | ||
Why didn't we want this information out? | ||
More information is good. It is shocking about why this was suppressed from people seeing it. | ||
And what were the vested interests doing? | ||
Short commercial break, back in a moment. | ||
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Okay, welcome back. | ||
Jeff Clark's going to join us to talk about the New York Times piece taken out of the administrative state, but Jeff's also got some thoughts and observations about this. | ||
And what's quite odd, Garland, I've got to get my head around, is why Murdoch's lawyers, who he fired as general counsel, who turned out to be completely incompetent, There's something weird about the whole thing. | ||
I was the first one to say when I read the depositions that they're going to settle this because they'll never let the evil one, Murdoch, on the stand and be ripped apart by some attorney and look like the fool that he is. | ||
But there's something weird about why they didn't get to the bottom of this because this would have been, I think, quite powerful. | ||
Give us your last slide. | ||
Then I want to ask you what this all means in this moment in time. | ||
What are you going to do for it? So you got the conclusion slide. | ||
Let's go through that. Sure. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. I think the conclusion is kind of fascinating where he says, in my view, it would be extremely difficult to retrofit security into a system that was not initially produced with such a process. | |
That is so technically true. | ||
And then finally, at the end there, he says, No grand conspiracies would be necessary to commit large-scale fraud, but rather only moderate technical skills of the kind that attackers who are likely to target Georgia's elections already possess. | ||
That is so true. Everything you've seen today... | ||
Okay, why did... we'll put this up for the audience. | ||
This is one of the reasons if you're listening to podcasts or radio, you've got to go to Worm.org and get the newsletter. | ||
And sign up for the video, too, because you get the slides. | ||
This is what I don't get. Why did Raffensburg...Kemp, you know, Kemp, the hacked Kemp. | ||
Oh, excuse me, the next guy, after DeSantis crashes and burns, which is happening before our eyes, Kemp's on deck. | ||
Okay, so we're going to have fun with that one. | ||
Remember, this guy was such a rock star. | ||
He spent eight years as Secretary of State of Georgia. | ||
Think about that for a second. What talent do you have to have to spend eight years as the Secretary of State of Georgia? | ||
Sir, why did Kemp and Raffensperger not say, we must release this, we must release this report, we need everybody to see this? | ||
Why have they fought it harder than anybody? | ||
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Steve, because they've been in cover-up mode for years. | |
You know, the elections are just... | ||
They're fraudulent. | ||
It's not just in Georgia, but it's a facade. | ||
The fact that you can conduct elections on unverifiable electronic voting equipment and then hide the ballots so that no one can see and just give the people the results. | ||
This is Wizard of Oz voting, and it's been going on for 20 years, and it's got to stop. | ||
They are part of the corruption, unfortunately. | ||
So where do we go from here? | ||
We came within a vote. | ||
I think we came within one vote of having to go back through certification in Georgia. | ||
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With this report, where do you go today? | |
What is the action steps? | ||
How can the audience follow it? | ||
Tell me what happens. | ||
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Well, thank you, Steve. | |
The report is up on VoterGA.org right now on the Studies tab. | ||
Everybody can go up and read that report. | ||
Where are we going now? | ||
It's a really exciting time. | ||
Yeah, on the studies tab, you can find that right there. | ||
Thank you, Cameron. | ||
So I think with the fact that it was a complete overthrow of the establishment this weekend is going to be incredibly helpful. | ||
And you combine that with this report, and again, there's a ton of other evidence that we're getting now as a critical mass on. | ||
But if you combine all those things, I think it's going to force the legislature to move. | ||
We think the governor may have blocked some bills in this last session. | ||
We've got a good lieutenant governor who's trying to lead the charge here. | ||
So we think that all this together should mean that we should get some legislative action, hopefully, that maybe even a couple of bills before the presidential primary in Georgia here in March. | ||
Okay, how do people get to you, follow you, get to your site, get the report, get all of it? | ||
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Thank you, Steve. VoterJ.org, the study's on the studies tab, and, you know, we've all sorts of, much more evidence is up there on the legal tab, on the press release tab, and all of our events. | |
You can see all our press conferences. | ||
And again, we are an all-volunteer organization. | ||
I do not take a salary, so the tax-deductible donations will go almost exclusively to legal fees to keep our litigation active, and we've got five or six active lawsuits right now in Georgia on this. | ||
Garland, thank you very much, and thank you for continuing the fight. | ||
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Thank you, Steve, for all you do. | |
It's great to be on. Thanks, brother. | ||
Once again, I'll tell you what, we're going to get Jeff Clark. | ||
We'll hold him. We've got a 90-second break, and I'm going to bring Clark. | ||
I think we've got Andy Clyde. | ||
We've got Natalie Winters. | ||
We've got Jan and Benzman down in Texas at this horrible situation outside of Houston. | ||
We've got Joanne. | ||
We're going to get it all in. | ||
I want to, once again, I haven't had an opportunity to give a hat tip to the folks in Georgia, particularly the Pre-State Strategy folks, all the people that came together at the Georgia convention. | ||
You had a clean sweep. | ||
You've got not just MAGA, but you have voter integrity people in there. | ||
Just absolutely fantastic. | ||
And it shows you that you can change this. | ||
You can change these parties. And I think the folks in Georgia are a great example of using your agency. | ||
Remember, they want to take your agency away from you. | ||
They just want you to sit there and be docile. | ||
Go to work. Pay your taxes. | ||
Raise your sons and daughters to die on foreign battlefields. | ||
That's what they want. Oh, and have your pension money also work against you. | ||
To have Sequoia Capital deploy it so they can fund the artificial intelligence military... | ||
Of the CCP. A lot going on. | ||
Jeff Clark about the administrative state. | ||
Poso is going to join me on Saturday. | ||
The spring offensive that you're paying for the Ukrainians not going so well. | ||
Odessa just slaughtered with a massive missile strike by the Russians. | ||
All the lies and misrepresentations of the Biden administration killing civilians and Ukrainian military halfway around the world. |