June 2, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Okay, Jeff Clark, walk me through through. | ||
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Bye. | |
| The leverage that we had, this tremendous leverage we have, do we really have, and you're going to have guys running around, I got this committee in a hearing, got this, got this, I'm going to subpoena this, I'm going to do this, I'm going to impeach this. | ||
| The thing that gave you power and leverage was the money, the debts and the money to keep them on a tight rein or to thwart them. | ||
| First off, do you believe That this codifies all the madness that the Biden administration has done with the Build Back Better, all the programs they've had in the radicalness of their environmental agenda, energy agenda, education agenda. | ||
| Have we just codified the works of the Biden administration? | ||
| Yes or no, sir? Yes, for two reasons. | ||
| One, because it's a total failed, missed opportunity. | ||
| And second, because, you know, look, as I said, the Trump rule is waiting there on the shelf to just be plucked out and put into law, right? | ||
| And one of the things that law would have done is it basically would have barred using the NEPA statute to block projects for climate change reasons. | ||
| That was maybe one of the most important things we adopted. | ||
| And so none of that is in this bill. | ||
| All of the things then from the Inflation Reduction Act, all of their Green New Deal projects where they're giving away these boondoggles based on this concept of environmental justice, All of that remains. | ||
| And that's why I agree with you completely, Steve, that the MSNBC people of the world are laughing right now because they got what they want. | ||
| And it's not an exaggeration to say that this did basically lock in all of the Biden wins. | ||
| And some of the major ones, obviously, were in this whole area of environmentalism run amok and totally tearing down, blocking growth in the national economy. | ||
| Did the 149 and with following leadership, Kevin McCarthy, did they take away the real leverage that the Republican Party and the Republican, the people that support the Republican Party, the voters of the Republican Party, did they take their leverage away until after, until the madness of a lame duck after the 2024 election? | ||
| Do they have any real leverage between now and then? | ||
| No. I mean, look, Congress has three major powers. | ||
| They have an oversight power. | ||
| Which I agree with you, they're trying to use as a shiny toy to distract MAGA and populist conservatives. | ||
| Second, they have the power of the purse. | ||
| That's the one we're talking about now. | ||
| That is the vital power. | ||
| That is a power that I've seen you stress time and again. | ||
| My boss Russ Vogt at the Center for Renewing America obviously is all over that and the master of the details about it. | ||
| I've seen Kash Patel say the only thing that actually made any progress in terms of oversight was threatening to cut off the money. | ||
| The money is the thing. | ||
| The money is where the leverage is to give up the money is to give up your power. | ||
| It's to surrender the American people to just endless inflation and to enslave our children and grandchildren in a pool of debt. | ||
| You've been at this a long time. | ||
| Why would the leadership of the Republican Party, why would they do this so blatantly, so obviously, that the Biden regime is laughing and got everything they want and codified their radical agenda? | ||
| Why would they do that at the same time come back with not even a very sophisticated tissue of lies? | ||
| I mean, it's kind of the stupid hour that you can just laugh at and tear apart immediately. | ||
| Why would they do that? Well, I think there's an internal and an external. | ||
| I think, externally, you're right that they think that the American people are stupid. | ||
| They think that people who actually believe in traditional America and preserving it as opposed to what elites on Wall Street or international financial elites or this whole woke complex in academia want are simpletons and that they can easily be fooled by bread and circus kinds of distractions. | ||
| And then, internally, I think they're part of the cartel, right? | ||
| No one generates more money, it seems, than Kevin McCarthy, and that's because he's allied with the very people who are essentially dragging the country out of those traditional moorings, whatever we have left, and into this You know, woke and weaponized era. | ||
| So it's one thing for him to give a speech. | ||
| It's another thing for him to actually walk the walk and seal off the purse strings that Congress can seal off so that the bureaucracy can't attack us constantly. | ||
| And he's not actually delivering on that. | ||
| You have to conclude at some point that it's because he agrees with the other side. | ||
| He finds more kinship with Hakeem Jeffries and the other Democrats than he does with the Freedom Caucus. | ||
| Can a Speaker of the House elected by the hard work of this audience, bringing doorbells, leaving hangers, working phone banks, doing, you know, get out the vote efforts, giving money, giving their time, becoming a force multiplier? | ||
| Can a Speaker continue to exist that has to be supported by a significant part of the radical Democratic Party? | ||
| In the political calculus of the modern world, does that work? | ||
| That's a very serious question, Steve. | ||
| I think that when you ask your audience the question of, you know, Quo Vadis, where do we go from here? | ||
| I think they need to be thinking about that. | ||
| You know, there was a time right between January when the 20 really stood up and two days ago where, you know, it looked like Kevin McCarthy was going to step into the shoes of history and really use the opportunity he was given to move the country back to fiscal sanity. | ||
| But he didn't take that opportunity, and now I think people need to reevaluate it, both in terms of your audience and populist conservatism across the country more generally, and I think that the Freedom Caucus and others in their growing kind of coalition based on the voting pattern, they need to reevaluate that too. | ||
| They need to think hard about what are the next steps if the Speaker has taken you in this terrible direction and just given Joe Biden what he wants. | ||
| Jeff, how do people get to you? | ||
| What's your social media? So I'm at JeffClarkUS on Getter and Twitter. | ||
| And today on at least Twitter, I'm going to launch a long string with far more details about what's wrong with this permitting stuff and the NEPA so-called fake reforms. | ||
| And then I'm also on RealJeffClark on Truth Social. | ||
| And the center is at AmericaRenewing.com, Steve. | ||
| When you put the Twitter thread up, we'll push that out hard. | ||
| Thank you, sir. Sure thing. | ||
| Let me play. We've put a little compilation here together. | ||
| Let me play this in sequence and I'll come back and we'll start the process of where do we go from here. | ||
| ...that this is just going to become the norm whenever this needs to be raised. | ||
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Well, that's why the starting point in this negotiation, which Speaker McCarthy insisted on, was that we would postpone facing this again at least until the end of next year. | |
| And that, to me, is a promise that really convinced a lot of us that we can move forward and not have this hanging over our heads. | ||
| All right, Senator Durbin, thank you. | ||
| What are they saying? They've got a handshake agreement with Joe Biden? | ||
| I mean, I can't believe that. | ||
| But here's the real killer. | ||
| It took the debt ceiling out to the January 1, 2025, a year longer than the Republican bill proposed. | ||
| Here's a piece of information for your viewers. | ||
| I just heard it tonight from the speaker in the conference. | ||
| He said the reason that happened was his call. | ||
| It wasn't even asked for by the Democrats. | ||
| He didn't want to end up in another negotiation with Joe Biden next year because he believed that they would ask for more. | ||
| That's what he said. You understand? | ||
| That's a $4 trillion, maybe $5 or $6 trillion increase in debt that we just... | ||
| Let him have, and the speaker says he made the call. | ||
| Deliberate strategy. I've got new reporting this morning that goes behind the scenes about that, how they felt like if the White House feels like they got a really good deal here, but if they were seen gloating or crowing about it, Republicans might lose, they might lose votes. | ||
| They might be less reluctant, less supportive of it. | ||
| So they decided to wait. | ||
| The victory lap will come another day. | ||
| They feel like this is something important for the country. | ||
| And this idea of the president being sort of above the fray, being the calm, steady hand, That's a nice contrast against the hysterical Republicans, they say, before 2024. | ||
| So here's what I think you have to have a number one. | ||
| If you're in a district, and here's how this thing expanded. | ||
| You had the Magnificent Six back in January that expanded to the 20 that we talk about that stood tall. | ||
| That went to the 30, and that was roughly the number one. | ||
| The other day about the rule, and the rule was the most important vote of everything, even taken to the floor, and that's where you saw immediately what was going to happen here, that McCarthy was going to basically deem Hakeem Jeffries, turn the floor to the radical Democrats and make Hakeem Jeffries majority leader, which he is. And then you had the 73. | ||
| That was 71. And, of course, you had Banks and Boebert who registered those but somehow missed the gavel or whatever. | ||
| But 73. Versus 149. | ||
| And remember, he committed to Jeffries to deliver 150. | ||
| So people say, oh, majority, majority, no. | ||
| On a bill that's as historic as this, you've got to bring it all, right? | ||
| You can't have 149 votes and have Democrats outvote you because they love it. | ||
| They held back because Moore would have voted for it because they love it so much. | ||
| Because it codifies it all. | ||
| Number one, of the 149 in the accountability project, you have to... | ||
| So first off, you should contact the people that are the 73 and the 30 and give them an attaboy. | ||
| And if they're part of the voter against the rule, like Ben Klein and others, two attaboys. | ||
| You stood up. The 149 has to be held accountable. | ||
| And that held accountable, you've got to go in and say, don't give me the spin, don't give me the tissue, it's all nonsense. | ||
| I need to know why you supported when McCarthy told you that it wasn't a democratic demand. | ||
| Think about this for a second. | ||
| It is so outrageous that the Democrats weren't even going to bring it up. | ||
| The Democrats didn't bring it up. | ||
| As you heard Durbin there, McCarthy insisted that the Speaker insisted that we not go through this again. | ||
| The Speaker insisted. | ||
| Dan Bishop from North Carolina said the Speaker came to the conference and said he wanted to do it. | ||
| Now, we had yesterday said one of the congressmen said because he said we'll be weaker next May. | ||
| Dan Bishop said, well, they're going to come back and ask for more, but I want to get it all off the table now. | ||
| It was speaker-driven. | ||
| Not just the duration, but to take off the cap. | ||
| In what universe would you take off the cap? | ||
| In what universe would you take off the cap? | ||
| In what universe would you take off the $1.4 trillion cap in the first year? | ||
| It is... | ||
| Completely illogical if you look at it from a point of view of MAGA or the conservative base or just common sense. | ||
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Why would you do that? | |
| You would do that if you're essentially working for the other team. | ||
| The 149 are the donor party. | ||
| The 73 are The MAGA or the populist nationalists or the new Republican Party. | ||
| Now we're seeing the basic formation of it. | ||
| This is the most important vote of the 118th Congress, and they're going to throw tons of shiny toys out there. | ||
| And listen, I understand it, that this is hard stuff. | ||
| And if you want to go chase a shiny toy, go do it. | ||
| If you want to chase a shiny toy for a couple of weeks and come back, do that too. | ||
| These are important shiny toys. | ||
| You know, the J6 tapes, very important. | ||
| The situation with Ray and the Biden crime family, very important. | ||
| But you've got to ask yourself the following. | ||
| Now, we can't get to Ben Burkwam today. | ||
| I'd love to get to Ben Burkwam. He's down at the border. | ||
| Any of the key things of taking out anything or adding in any scintilla of border security or stopping the invasion of the southern border or stopping the madness in our schools, Or stopping the madness with this transgender ideology or stopping the madness with Ukraine or anywhere, anything. Energy, all of it. | ||
| They gave you permitting. And Jeff Clark just showed you. | ||
| That's a joke. It's just performative in optics to make you sit there and just watch Fox News and say, yeah, let me send them another check. | ||
| This is great. We got a transformative historic cut. | ||
| Why would you, you gotta ask, you gotta answer, don't, I said, I don't want you to talk to anything about the bill. | ||
| You gotta answer the following. | ||
| Why did you take off the limit? | ||
| Why did you vote to take off the limit? | ||
| And why did you give him the second year? | ||
| Why did you push it into the lame duck of 24? | ||
| And as CNN, I've got it on Getter. | ||
| They're big headlines. 1 January of 2025. | ||
| Unlimited spending by the most radical regime in the history of this republic. | ||
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Illegitimately installed, I might add. | |
| Duly noted. Short break. | ||
| Back in a moment. What is the Hegelian dialectic? | ||
| Is that it? Thesis, antithesis, synthesis? | ||
| We don't have that here. | ||
| You don't really have a dialectic of the movement. | ||
| That's one of the theories of history. | ||
| You don't have that here, and here's why. | ||
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Um, there's no... | |
| Biden and the Democrats are advocates for their radical policies, and we disagree with that. | ||
| We disagree with that fundamentally. | ||
| We think they are taking the country in this republic in a direction to destroy it. | ||
| Many elements in front of us are being destroyed every day. | ||
| We vehemently disagree with that, and that is what the Trump movement or MAGA is all about. | ||
| We are populist, nationalist, traditionalist, and we believe in sovereignty. | ||
| We believe in common sense about trying to restrict government and maybe even try to shrink government. | ||
| But prudence and discernment when it comes to spending, and particularly comes to things like the balance sheet of the United States. | ||
| By the way, I think we may have some arrivals telling my crack staff here. | ||
| We're always in the gonzo nature of the war room. | ||
| We're always a little... We're always a little understaffed as we like to run. | ||
| We believe in limited government and limited business. | ||
| So my crack team is going to let in our special guest here momentarily. | ||
| Let's just go ahead and seat him. We don't need to be fancy about this. | ||
| What then are you going to do? | ||
| Because that's the only question before us today. | ||
| The only thing that's important is what you are going to do and how you are going to hold people accountable. | ||
| The first accountability is to get the information now and to put them on notice now that you demand an answer. | ||
| And you demand some specific answers. | ||
| What is the real meaning of this crisis in the first place? | ||
| Did Janet Yellen actually ever, you know, are these numbers even accurate? | ||
| And why was she not called or subpoenaed to come forward and actually put forward the cash flow itself? | ||
| Why did McHenry never do that? | ||
| And why was that not determined? | ||
| Right? Why was that not done? | ||
| Also, this vote. | ||
| When McCarthy told you that they were taking off the cap and going to give two years, why did you agree with that? | ||
| Why would you agree with that? | ||
| Why would you do that? | ||
| Okay? In... | ||
| And you have to get an answer. | ||
| Don't have them sell you on the appropriation. | ||
| You're not going to get in the appropriation. | ||
| If you didn't stand in the breach here where you had all the leverage, you're not going to do it when you get these appropriations bills coming through. | ||
| And then the Senate's going to go, we're not going to do that. | ||
| And you're going to get to September and you're going to have this huge thing and the pressure is going to be there. | ||
| Do you honestly think McCarthy and this leadership team on the evening of September 30th with the clock ticking is actually going to force Biden's hand to shut down the government? | ||
| When they had ten times more leverage here, and they gave him everything, they codified his radical regime. | ||
| And not just codified it, but also gave him all the money to execute on the fulfillment of it. | ||
| Do you think that's going to happen in September? | ||
| That's another fantasy. | ||
| These are fantasies. Don't give me fantasy. | ||
| Don't give me the tissue of lies. | ||
| This is all fantasy. | ||
| Your historic cut and bending the curve, it's all a fantasy. | ||
| And don't give me the out years. | ||
| Don't give me the out years and the 1%. | ||
| It's all fantasy. We're talking about the here and now. | ||
| This is what negotiation is about, the here and now, and the tools that we had. | ||
| And ask them point blank, when McCarthy said we had to do it to give him two years because we're going to be weaker next year, what does that mean specifically? | ||
| Be very specific. What does that mean? | ||
| What does he mean, be weaker? | ||
| Because they're going to be weaker. Why am I giving you more money today? | ||
| Why am I giving you more support today? | ||
| You're telling me you're going to be weaker. Why am I doing that? | ||
| Does he agree with Biden's plan? | ||
| Do you think the economy's going to be stronger? Are we in better shape? | ||
| Are we going to be weaker? Is that what you believe? | ||
| Why don't you just come forward and be straightforward about that? | ||
| Why don't you just say that? | ||
| You ask these questions and hold them accountable because you're going to say the next step is about the primaries of these people. | ||
| But first you have to get, because that will come later. | ||
| Remember, there's a critical path here. | ||
| You have to do that. Then we switch back to here. | ||
| So you have to get to the 149. | ||
| If you're a constituent of 149, particularly in many of these very rare districts, you have to go to them and say, am I a fool? | ||
| Am I missing this? Maybe there is something here. | ||
| Maybe there is something. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because I've worked with you before. | ||
| I've worked for you before. I've given you money. | ||
| I've done all of this. | ||
| Okay? I've done that, and I've done that, so maybe you have an answer. | ||
| But please give me the answer. | ||
| I have to have the answer. | ||
| I have to have the answer. | ||
| And then upon that, I believe it is time. | ||
| And people say, you've got to have an alternative, you've got to do this. | ||
| No. Because here's what I think we need to do. | ||
| We need to put in high relief. | ||
| This is a moment of truth. | ||
| This is where we have to get down to it. | ||
| This is where we have to stop kidding ourselves, right? | ||
| And kidding each other and particularly allowing them to think that you're morons and they just give you this and give you this and give you this. | ||
| I believe you have to have an immediate motion to vacate. | ||
| So when you talk to 149, after you hear the answer, if it still sets like it sets now, You have to put it to them. | ||
| Well, you voted for it, but are you prepared to back a motion to vacate? | ||
| And of the Magnificent Six and the 20 and the 30 and now the 73, that question also has to be asked. | ||
| Are you prepared? Are we prepared to do what we need to do? | ||
| And here's what we need to do. The motion to vacate is not going to work. | ||
| It's not going to work. But here's what we do. | ||
| They just codified the Biden regime. | ||
| They codified it. They put it in and they set it in place. | ||
| That they approved it. And they approve it even more importantly going forward. | ||
| Fully funded with your money. | ||
| So if that's the case. | ||
| And he did that in partnership with Hakeem Jeffries. | ||
| He didn't do it in partnership with the House Freedom Caucus. | ||
| He fought the House Freedom Caucus. | ||
| And many people were not in the House Freedom Caucus. | ||
| So in a defining moment in American politics. | ||
| We need to know in June of 2023. | ||
| We need to know now. | ||
| What is the government that we have? | ||
| We know we got the radicals in the executive branch, and we know we even have a bigger group of radicals in the administrative state that underneath the kind of 4,000 political appointees, the administrative, the Leviathan, that we're all going to go attack now, right? You had a chance to attack it. | ||
| You choke down the money. | ||
| That's how you attack it. | ||
| But we didn't do that. | ||
| So here's what we need to define In June, in the year of our Lord, 2023, here's what we need to define. | ||
| We need to define exactly what these parties are and what this government is, and now is a time to actually show that the Union Party rules over us. | ||
| That's fine. We can fight a rebellion on that. | ||
| We can fight that at the ballot box, but let's define it. | ||
| We need to have Hakeem Jeffries We need a motion to vacate immediately. | ||
| So it's not going to work. We need to have the Democrats every day come up and save Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| And then see if Kevin McCarthy and the brilliant leadership team of Brother Graves and Brother McHenry and Steve Scalise and his entire crew can continue to survive. | ||
| At least it defines it. | ||
| Steve, you're going to get off all the impeachments and you're going to get off everything judiciary is doing and you're going to get off everything the subcommittee and the weaponization of government is doing and oversight and boy, that's going to take time and you're going to get off all that. | ||
| That's all performative right now. | ||
| You don't think I wouldn't love to be covering the race situation? | ||
| We wouldn't love to be having Darren Beattie and Julie Kelly and John Solomon and all these great people on here and watching the video J6 and making the case for J6? Yes, we would love it. | ||
| But we can't. And the reason we can't right now, that's the shiny toy they're trying to get to distract you. | ||
| And if they're not prepared to use the leverage they've got, the important leverage they've got in the moment that they have it, certainly you're not going to impeach anybody. | ||
| Certainly you're not going to take on the administrative state. | ||
| And yes, Ray may answer a subpoena or two and give you a little report, but you're not going to hold the Biden crime family accountable and you're not going to have a weaponization committee that comes anywhere near what Frank Church, the liberal from Idaho, was able to get back in the 70s. | ||
| This is more fantasy. | ||
| And now more than ever, we must face reality. | ||
| And here's the people to face it. | ||
| The one thing the American people have had, and particularly the working class, what makes up MAGA, is this understanding and common sense and grit and determination, understanding of the human condition, and the understanding of the taproot of the moral power of this republic. | ||
| Time and time and time again. | ||
| And that's what made it the greatest country on earth. | ||
| Not the resources. The resources were blessed by divine providence with unbelievable resources in a land of insurmountable beauty and bounty. | ||
| But it's always been the people, the Grundoons, the Schmendricks, right? | ||
| And so that's your call. | ||
| This is not Trump's going to do this. | ||
| Tucker Carlson is not going to do this. | ||
| Steve Bannon is not going to do this. | ||
| The memory of Rush Limbaugh is not going to do it. | ||
| You. It's now down to it. | ||
| We're at a very defining moment. | ||
| And you have to think about it this weekend. | ||
| Is Kevin McCarthy in the Uniparty going to define it or are you going to define it? | ||
| And are you going to accept the lies and being treated like a moron? | ||
| Not just to be treated like a moron. | ||
| They got ads up. They want you to send more money. | ||
| Kevin McCarthy got ads all up here. | ||
| You're in D.C. You watch these things. | ||
| They got ads nonstop about his great leadership stroke of the fundamental transformation. | ||
| The first time we've ever spent less money in the fundamental transformation of the direction of the country. | ||
| And if you buy that, then support it. | ||
| It's a free country. You're thinking men and women in a republic of free people that we have fought now for hundreds of years on this continent, right? | ||
| Of what we just honored last weekend of the honored dead that got us here that provided all this for us and next week about the Normandy invasion and the D-Day and the Battle of Normandy, all of it. | ||
| This is a defining moment. | ||
| And you will define it. | ||
| Not Ron DeSantis. Not Donald Trump. | ||
| Not Nikki Haley. Not Mike Pence. | ||
| Tucker Carlson. Steve Bannon. | ||
| You. I want it burned into your soul right now. | ||
| Because it's the only way that you can begin the process of definition. | ||
| Next in the war room. | ||
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Your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, I'm honored, and we don't have a lot of time, we've got about 30 minutes, and we're honored to have a real hero to me, Commander Andrew Clyde, Congressman from Georgia, and a real fighter, on the rules. | ||
| The rule vote, because the posse loves inside baseball, the rule vote was more important than actually the vote itself. | ||
| The vote itself was very important, but the 20 expanded to 30, 30 patriots. | ||
| But I keep telling people, the pressure that was on you guys was unbelievable, and to the fact that when you stood your ground, he basically made Hakeem Jeffries the majority leader, partnered with Hakeem Jeffries, and in the worst case, he lied. | ||
| He cut deals on earmarks. | ||
| I hear it's much deeper, even about motion to vacate, but we're going to get into that in a moment. | ||
| Tell me the pressure that you came under, because you are a particular hero and favorite patriot of Our vast audience of people that believe in the Second Amendment and believe in the right to bear arms. | ||
| And this is a big part of our audience and, more importantly, a big part of the American people. | ||
| Can you go through specifically what happened? | ||
| Well, sure. Absolutely, Stephen. | ||
| And thank you for the privilege of being on with you in studio. | ||
| First, let me just talk about the rule a little bit, all right? | ||
| The reason the rule is so important is because when you have a closed rule, which is the way this bill came to the floor, then you have eliminated the voice of every member of Congress except those who actually crafted the bill. | ||
| And this bill was crafted in the back room with very, very few members actually involved. | ||
| And the vast majority of all of us excluded from the process. | ||
| So no voice there, no voice in the actual crafting of the bill. | ||
| And so when the bill text came out finally on Sunday evening, you know, we had the 72 hours to look at it. | ||
| But yet it came to the floor under a closed rule. | ||
| If it would have been an open rule which would have allowed for amendments from colleagues and from members of Congress, then things might have been different. | ||
| Or if it had been a modified rule which would allow certain amendments, some amendments. | ||
| But this was a closed rule. | ||
| I offered an amendment to strip not $1.4 billion but all of the IRS advanced appropriation. | ||
| All $80 billion. Actually, it's going to end up being about $71 or $72 billion. | ||
| That's about what's left, I think, in what is the actual portion of the weaponization. | ||
| But a lot. Right, right. It would have completely eliminated their ability to hire new IRS auditors. | ||
| That would have been completely gone with the $71 or $72 billion because it's broken out in three or four different buckets. | ||
| We'd eliminate those buckets that were directly tied to increasing the size of the weaponized IRS. So that amendment, my amendment, was rejected. | ||
| Every other amendment was rejected. | ||
| So this came to the floor under a closed rule. | ||
| They were rejected at committee. | ||
| They were at rules. | ||
| Now remember, this bill also did not go through the committee process. | ||
| It didn't go through Ways and Means. | ||
| It didn't go through Financial Services. | ||
| It went straight from the back room to Rules Committee. | ||
| Under a closed rule, that means every member of Congress, other than those actually involved in creating the bill, which was, you know, less than what you can count on one hand, all of us are disenfranchised. | ||
| All of our voters, all of the citizens, all our constituents were disenfranchised because, you know, they elect us to be their voice. | ||
| Our voices were silenced. | ||
| This was a bad rule, a very bad rule for all America. | ||
| And so the only thing you can do is say, hey, that's not per the agreement that we had our power sharing agreement with the speaker in January. | ||
| So this rule had to come down. | ||
| And we had 29 brave individuals vote against this rule. | ||
| Normally you don't vote against a rule, right? | ||
| You'll vote against the bill sometimes, but not the rule. | ||
| But having people not vote against the rule is about power and control. | ||
| That's what it's about because that's the most, in my opinion, the rule is where they are the most sensitive, where we actually have the most ability to change things is the rule. | ||
| If the rule is bad, you know? | ||
| So that's what we did. | ||
| We voted against the rule. | ||
| That was, as people said, as important a vote as the speaker vote in the first week of January. | ||
| It is. It was. It absolutely was. | ||
| Because that was a vote that reinforced the agreement in January. | ||
| And what would have happened if the rule would have come down is it would have then gone back to the Rules Committee. | ||
| The only thing that would have happened, gone back to the Rules Committee for a new rule. | ||
| And at that point, then we would have argued and negotiated for an open rule or a modified rule. | ||
| And that's the way it should have happened. | ||
| But that's not the way leadership wanted. | ||
| So they went to the Democrats, and they got 52 Democrats to vote for this. | ||
| And I'm not privy to what it cost, but they should never have done that. | ||
| We have the majority here. | ||
| So this is truly what you said. | ||
| It's a speaker going to the minority leader, making him the majority leader. | ||
| Because it's a Democrat bill. | ||
| It is a Democrat. Oh, my word, yes, it's a Democrat bill. | ||
| Look at how many Democrats voted for it. | ||
| 16 more Democrats voted for it than Republicans voted for it. | ||
| And almost one and a half times the number of Republicans voted against it as Democrats voted against it. | ||
| This was clearly a purely Democrat bill that Republicans brought to the floor and Republicans helped to pass. | ||
| I want to talk about... We'll get to your constituents in a second and how you've honored them by standing in the breach. | ||
| But I heard... | ||
| Because the humiliation he had on the floor at that moment to work with Hakeem Jeffries to basically save him, there was intense pressure on this role. | ||
| Talk to us about the pressure that went on to make sure, particularly given the vastly important work you're doing up here for the Second Amendment. | ||
| Well, I was called about 1230 or so on Wednesday, and I was told by leadership that if I didn't vote for the rule, that it would be very difficult to bring my bill to the floor. | ||
| Now, remember, the bill that I have is H.J. Rez. | ||
| 44, this is the pistol brace rule. | ||
| This is a rule, or this is a bill rather, that takes down the overreach of the ATF. The ATF is trying to become Congress here and create a law that they don't have the authority to create. | ||
| A law that makes felons out of tens of thousands, actually millions, really, if you look at what CRS, Congressional Review, says about how many potential pistol braces... | ||
| Congressional Research Service. That's correct. | ||
| Congressional Research Service has said what about this? | ||
| How many potential felons out there in this country if this thing's not passed? | ||
| Congressional Research said that there's anywhere from 10 million to 40 million of these braces out there. | ||
| So there's that... Potentially there's that many people that would be affected by this ATF rule. | ||
| We're confident there's at least three million. | ||
| But CRS says anywhere from 10 to 40 million. | ||
| And that's a stunning number of American citizens, Second Amendment loving American citizens, who simply want their Second Amendment rights preserved. | ||
| And I can say something from doing the show, and we go out in the field a lot and do the show. | ||
| There is, and the mainstream media doesn't report this, but this is at the top of the mind. | ||
| This is one of the most important things in this Congress right now is that bill. | ||
| Would you agree with me? I would agree with you. | ||
| That is one of the most important things. | ||
| That's why I have worked so hard to make sure that this bill has as many co-sponsors as possible. | ||
| We've got over, we've got 190, maybe a little over 190 co-sponsors, original co-sponsors on this bill. | ||
| Richard Hudson and I, he's the NRCC Chair, we are co-leading this bill together. | ||
| It is so very important that this bill come to the floor. | ||
| And also, I've been working with the Democrats, too. | ||
| This bill, I believe, when it comes to the floor, will be bipartisan. | ||
| I have commitment from one Democrat to vote for this bill. | ||
| I'm working with a couple of others that they may actually come to yes as well. | ||
| So we could very well have maybe three Democrats that vote for this bill, maybe four. | ||
| And therefore, it would be another bipartisan bill. | ||
| In this defining moment, When you see about character and you see about morality and you see about the spirituality coming to power politics, I want you to once again say what they threaten you with. | ||
| Well, I was told that if I voted against the rule that it would be very difficult to bring this bill to the House floor. | ||
| And I said, well, if that's the case, I said, then take my name off the bill. | ||
| I mean, there's another member that is co-leading it with me. | ||
| Take my name off the bill because it's not about me. | ||
| Not about me at all. It's about the millions of Americans. | ||
| These braces, and this is an example of one right here. | ||
| These braces were made... | ||
| Show people, particularly for the people out here and not gun owners, why this is important. | ||
| You've got a couple minutes. | ||
| Explain this. This is a pistol brace right here, a stabilizing brace. | ||
| And what it does is it goes on your arm, and to help a person, especially someone who has a disability of some sort, who may not have the strength in their hand or may not have a second hand, but this brace actually goes on your wrist, kind of like that, or on your forearm, and it's strapped to your forearm. | ||
| And it attaches to the back of the pistol to allow you to better handle, better support, and be more accurate with a larger pistol, with a larger caliber, larger framed pistol. | ||
| And if you don't have the ability to support with a second hand or your other second hand is weak, you know, if you're an American with a disability or if you're a service-disabled veteran or something like that, then you might need this. | ||
| Or maybe a woman or younger people are just first-time coming to firearms, etc.? | ||
| Absolutely correct. | ||
| Right. So, which is why... | ||
| And this is something to help people defend themselves. | ||
| That is correct as well. And it was originally designed for a service-disabled veteran. | ||
| That's what it was designed for. | ||
| Americans have found out that they are so good, they are so effective in helping them that it has become wildly popular. | ||
| As I said, minimum 3 million. | ||
| CRS says 10 million to 40 million. | ||
| Well, 10 million to 40 million out there, but it may be a minimum of 3 million American citizens would be potential felons because what they're saying, ATF is interpreting this now. | ||
| Why do they say that's a felony to have that? | ||
| They are now interpreting any pistol That has a stabilizing brace like this attached to it as a short-barreled rifle, which is restricted under the National Firearms Act of 1934. | ||
| That means that now it's going to have to be registered. | ||
| You're going to be restricted to your particular state. | ||
| There are nine states of the Union, excuse me, six states of the Union plus Washington, D.C., That don't allow short-barreled rifles. | ||
| So veterans or Americans with disabilities that are using this brace in those states would now be prohibited. | ||
| They couldn't even register their pistol. | ||
| They'd be completely prohibited from owning it. | ||
| And if they had it, again, they would be guilty of a felony. | ||
| 10 years in jail, a $250,000 fine. | ||
| Ten years, a decade in jail. | ||
| That's correct, a decade in jail. | ||
| And that would be a federal prison. | ||
| And that would be a federal prison, and they would never have their gun rights again, never be able to own another firearm. | ||
| This is why when we go throughout the country and have feedback from our audience, this is a top priority, correct? | ||
| This is an absolute top priority. | ||
| And it's disappointing that...actually, let me go back a little earlier. | ||
| On Tuesday of this week, Tuesday afternoon, I was called by leadership and told, hey, this stabilizing brace bill is going to come to the floor next week. | ||
| I've been on them and encouraging them, and it's been delayed a couple of weeks, but I was promised that it would be coming next week. | ||
| Now it's no longer coming next week. | ||
| They've actually followed through on the threat so far. | ||
| They've taken it off the calendar? | ||
| They have. They have taken it off the calendar. | ||
| Hang on. I want to hit rewind here. | ||
| A bill that would make sure that folks out there, the backbone of this country, right, three million people potentially as potential felons that could spend up to ten years in the federal prison have a huge fine and lose their gun rights forever. | ||
| That bill that you've worked on, So hard on. | ||
| They threaten you. | ||
| Finally having given to the thing, they threaten you if you voted for the rule, it wasn't going to come. | ||
| And what we know now, it was supposed to come next week. | ||
| It's not coming. It's not coming next week. | ||
| In fact, what's on the schedule is the Save Our Gas Stoves Act, Gas Stove Protection Act, the Rains Act, Separation of Powers, Restoration Act, etc., but not the Pistol Brace Bill. | ||
| It has been removed. | ||
| It is not coming next week. | ||
| And that doesn't hurt me. | ||
| As far as I'm concerned, take me off the bill. | ||
| It hurts millions of American citizens. | ||
| It hurts service-disabled veterans. | ||
| It hurts Americans with disabilities. | ||
| This is wrong. This is absolutely tragic that leadership would prioritize bills like gas stoves, which a gas stove is not a constitutional right. | ||
| A gas stove, this particular bill, is not going to prevent someone. | ||
| We've got to go to a quick break. We're going to come back. | ||
| Commander, Congressman, is with us. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| The CBs, they get things done. | ||
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| Congressman Clyde from Georgia. | ||
| This, of all the outrages I've heard, this may be the most outrageous because this is a very high priority. | ||
| For the people that ring doorbells, knock on the doors, put the hangers out, work the phone banks, and give the money to small donors, they believe in their Second Amendment rights to the core of their being. | ||
| And now with the anarchy and chaos that we just codified by McCarthy's bill, the anarchy and chaos, more than ever, they're self-reliant and they want to take care of their personal safety. | ||
| That's why this thing is so important. | ||
| And to know that they not just threaten but have taken it off the chart is inexcusable. | ||
| But they've got an excuse. | ||
| Oh, well, we're going to have the Senate deal with it first. | ||
| Why is that another part of the tissue of lies? | ||
| Well, thanks, Steve. | ||
| The fact is that the Senate cannot pass a bill without the House actually leading in the effort. | ||
| I mean this particular bill, HJRES 44, the pistol-brace, stabilizer-brace bill, needs to go through the House first because I believe we can pass it in the House in a bipartisan way. | ||
| I know I've got one Democrat, or I believe... | ||
| More than one Democrat that would sign on to this bill that would vote for this bill. | ||
| And therefore we would pass it in the House in a bipartisan way because the Senate has to pass it in a bipartisan way. | ||
| They don't have a choice. There's not enough Republicans in the Senate to pass it. | ||
| So it has to come to the floor and be passed with at least two senators, two Democrat senators, voting for this bill. | ||
| And they're not going to do that unless the House passes it first. | ||
| You've got to put... Tester and Manchin on notice, right? | ||
| And these other guys in those super red states on notice that the House passed this. | ||
| That's correct. And Cinnamon as well. | ||
| You know, I mean, you got to have two out of the three there to pass this bill in the Senate. | ||
| It is not going to happen. | ||
| But the reason I believe that they are going to this narrative now is because if you pass it in the Senate first and that Senate bill comes to the House and then we in the House pass the Senate bill and it's not the House bill that gets passed. | ||
| So... Again, you know, it's, but it's not about my specific, it's not about the Andrew Clyde bill. | ||
| This is gone because you voted against the rule. | ||
| That's correct. And they're prepared to put three million minimum American citizens. | ||
| I'm sure a large majority Who are MAGA and who support and have given money and worked and believe in Second Amendment rights to the Republican Party. | ||
| They're prepared to jeopardize them to be designated by the ATF's rulemaking as felons to spend 10 years in a federal prison to pay an enormous fine and to lose their gun rights for the rest of their life. | ||
| I simply cannot believe that this bill has become not a priority for the House. | ||
| It just shows you that the House has a real problem with preserving the rights of the American citizens over trying to keep their members in line. | ||
| I think that keeping their members in line is a greater priority, and that's Very, very difficult for me. | ||
| And keeping their members in line, they just codified, not just they give Biden $14 trillion with $4 trillion minimum of new debt, but they codified essentially all the cores of the most radical regime in this country's history. | ||
| And they did so with more Democrats voting for that bill than Republicans voting for that bill. | ||
| Georgia, in your district in particular, is one of the backbones of this country. | ||
| I always ask folks, what are your constituents saying? | ||
| What do they say about what's happened over the last couple of days? | ||
| Well, my constituents constantly tell me, don't let them take our guns. | ||
| Don't let them take our guns. | ||
| You know, the ability to protect their individual, their constitutional rights is the number one thing. | ||
| You know, they love God, they love country, they love their guns because it protects their country. | ||
| For me, that's one of the reasons why I ran. | ||
| I'm a very, very staunch Second Amendment supporter. | ||
| I'm a federal firearms licensee. | ||
| I've been one for over 30 years. | ||
| I love the Second Amendment. | ||
| It's what protects the First Amendment. | ||
| If we don't fight this battle in the House right now, then I don't think this bill is ever going to pass. | ||
| It has to go through the House first before it goes to the Senate. | ||
| We have to pass it in the House and send it to the Senate. | ||
| We must pass it in the House. | ||
| That's correct. That's correct. | ||
| It must be passed in the House. | ||
| Whether I'm on it or not doesn't matter to me because it's not about me. | ||
| It's about the American people. | ||
| But that's also not acceptable because you did this. | ||
| They're doing that because you voted to stop the insanity. | ||
| And for standing in the breach and being a profile in courage, they're delaying this entire thing. | ||
| That's what the political terrorism or the political crime here is. | ||
| They're prepared to make vulnerable people who are patriots and some of the best people in this country because of their maniacal need for control up here in the imperial capital. | ||
| This example shows everything. | ||
| That's a great way to put it. It shows you everything you need to know. | ||
| How do people get to you? You've got to follow Commander Clyde, how do people follow you on social media? | ||
| You've got a crack comms team, but I want to know your social media and where you go to your site. | ||
| Thank you. You can go to Clyde.House.gov to communicate with us. | ||
| You can also follow us on Twitter at RepClyde, on Twitter and on Getter as well, and we're also on Facebook. | ||
| I want people to go to Andy Clyde's, Congressman Clyde's, Andrew Clyde's site and get more information because next week we're then going to man the ramparts in this. | ||
| We've got to come back there hard and people say this is not acceptable. | ||
| We're not going to sit down for this. | ||
| That is exactly correct. Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you, and thank you for being a hero and a patriot. | ||
| It's very easy in this town to cave. | ||
| It's my honor to serve the American people in Georgia's 9th District. | ||
| Well, I gotta tell you, it makes me proud to be a naval officer today. | ||
| And me too. Seabees. | ||
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