June 2, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
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I know you don't like hearing that. | |
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| No, I don't. I really think that it's a vote that gets down to a bottom line question. | ||
| Do we want to default on America's national debt for the first time in our history? | ||
| Do we want to put into question the stability and future of our U.S. currency, the dollar? | ||
| Do we want to endanger families and businesses who can see interest rates really start hurting and their savings start diminishing? | ||
| The answer to all those is an obvious no. | ||
| And if that's the case, you have to vote the bottom line, as far as I'm concerned, to pass this measure. | ||
| Do I like all of it? No. | ||
| That's the nature of Congress and the nature of a compromise. | ||
| A lot of senators on both sides of the aisle very upset about the process, upset, too, about what is in the bill, what may not be in the bill in some cases. | ||
| Senator Cain, your colleague from Virginia, is very upset about the inclusion of a pipeline that is a pet project of Democratic Senator Joe Manchin's, a pipeline that would go from West Virginia, Manchin State, into Cain State, Virginia. | ||
| Why do you think the White House blindsided Cain with that? | ||
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I don't know the answer to that, and I can tell you Tim Kaine is one of our best, and Joe Manchin is a friend, and they feel very strongly about this issue, and they're on opposite sides. | |
| It's a tough moment for the Senate Democratic Caucus as to how this is going to work out. | ||
| I don't know how it got in the bill, but at this point I think passage of the bill and avoiding default is the major challenge that we face. | ||
| Do you think the White House handled that poorly, considering that it normally has such a positive relationship with Senator Kaine? | ||
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The White House has a positive relation with Tim Kaine for sure, and also with Joe Manchin on the Inflation Reduction Act, which did so much to move us forward. | |
| So I don't know the details on who was notified and who should have been notified. | ||
| We're going to face a tough vote with two of our friends that we value in the caucus on opposite sides. | ||
| So do you think that the White House should have more seriously considered the 14th Amendment as an authority for raising the debt ceiling? | ||
| This is something that your Democratic colleague, Senator Blumenthal, urged earlier today. | ||
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Here's the problem that I saw. | |
| If this went into the courts, there is no guarantee that there would be a timely decision, enough time for us to avoid defaulting on our debt. | ||
| I happen to think there's a good argument about Section 4 of Article 14, and we shouldn't make that argument. | ||
| Perhaps now we can find a way to bring it before the court. | ||
| But ultimately that decision is going to be made by a Supreme Court which is not predictable on a subject like this. | ||
| So to have the fate of the American economy hanging in the balance of a long court process or an uncertain Supreme Court decision and then dumped back in our laps is something I didn't want to see happen. | ||
| It was bad timing. But how worried are you that this is just going to become the norm whenever this needs to be raised? | ||
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Well, that's why the starting point in this negotiation, which Speaker McCarthy insisted on, was that we would postpone facing this again at least until the end of next year. | |
| And that, to me, is a promise that really convinced a lot of us that we can move forward and not have this hanging over our heads. | ||
| Alright, Senator Durbin, thank you. | ||
| Our national debt now stands at about $32 trillion. | ||
| How did we get here? | ||
| Whose fault is it? Republicans? | ||
| Democrats? Well, the answer is yes. | ||
| Both parties are at fault for different reasons. | ||
| Republicans come to this floor and will come to this floor today saying, we need unlimited military spending. | ||
| And Democrats will come to this floor and say, we need unlimited welfare spending. | ||
| And guess what happens? | ||
| They compromise. People say Washington doesn't compromise. | ||
| They compromise all of the time. | ||
| That's what this debt deal that's before us is, is compromise. | ||
| But the compromise is always to spend more money. | ||
| How do we know that? | ||
| The debt deal that's been crafted by Biden and McCarthy is an unlimited increase in the debt ceiling. | ||
| See, historically, when we raised the debt ceiling, it would be $100 billion or $200 billion or, God forbid, a trillion dollars. | ||
| It was a dollar amount. | ||
| This debt ceiling will go up till January 2025. | ||
| How many dollars will be borrowed? | ||
| As many as they can possibly shovel out the door. | ||
| It will be how much money can you shovel out the door until January 2025? | ||
| That's how much we will spend. | ||
| Is there a dollar amount? No. | ||
| How much can you shovel it out and how fast can you shovel it out? | ||
| There will be no restraint from this debt deal. | ||
| There is a pretense. | ||
| There is a playing around the edges as if, oh, there might be a cut here or there might be a cut there. | ||
| There are no cuts. | ||
| Why? Two thirds of your spending is entitlement spending. | ||
| The on-budget entitlement spending is Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, and other programs. | ||
| They are called mandatory and no one ever looks at them. | ||
| They go on in perpetuity. | ||
| This is what drives the deficit. | ||
| Who took them off the table? | ||
| How come there's no discussion of this? | ||
| Actually, Republicans took them off the table because they fear being criticized by the Democrats. | ||
| It's being used in the presidential campaign. | ||
| Let's not talk about the entitlements, but that's two-thirds of what gets spent every year. | ||
| So if you don't talk about the entitlements, if you don't talk about mandatory spending, you're frankly not a serious... | ||
| Okay, it's Thursday, 1 June, the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| I'm trying to see how good the war room posse is. | ||
| You guys are pretty fired up this morning. | ||
| Did you catch the buried lead? | ||
| Come on. I know it just kind of went by, but we'll play again. | ||
| Dick Durbin dropped a bombshell right there. | ||
| Said McCarthy insisted upon pushing the debt ceiling into for two years. | ||
| McCarthy insisted. | ||
| And we're going to try to confirm that. | ||
| McCarthy insisted. Hang on. | ||
| Hang on. I'm going to play that. | ||
| We're going to go live to the Senate floor in a second. | ||
| Senate floor, and this has already turned into a Donnybrook. | ||
| The Hawks want $890 billion, not good enough for them. | ||
| And remember, it's over trading because you've got all these other departments that are doing DOD stuff that it's not on the books, or it's not the accounting just doesn't go back. | ||
| So they want a bigger defense budget. | ||
| And there are Democrats in that too, because it's a pool of slush fund. | ||
| You've got, they're arguing about everything. | ||
| There, I think you got Rand Paul and some others, Mike Lee and some others are going to say, hey, we got to cap this thing, got to put a time to it. | ||
| We're going to run to ground this McCarthy insisted upon it. | ||
| If McCarthy insisted upon it, they should be a motion to vacate tonight. | ||
| I'm not a motion to vacate guy right now. | ||
| I think you got to do it when you can hit him the hardest and bleed him out. | ||
| He's got to go. He cannot continue to. | ||
| It's whether we get him now or get him in a couple of weeks or maybe drop it one August like we got Boehner back in the old days. | ||
| He's gone. He's injured. | ||
| And here's what they're fearing. I'm hearing this from life. | ||
| They fear inside the beltway. | ||
| They're all happy and clapping each other in the back and their lobbyists taking out to big time dinners and they're all smiling. | ||
| They got this one done and they, you know, the war room and these other jamokes couldn't stop it. | ||
| But they fear going back home. | ||
| They fear going to the hinterland. | ||
| They fear hearing from you. | ||
| And remember, as Rand Paul just nails it right there, it's unlimited. | ||
| And they're going to print as much as they can, trillions and trillions. | ||
| We know it's $15 trillion in spending, $4 trillion we know at a minimum on the balance sheet. | ||
| It's outrageous. I want you to be angry. | ||
| You were angry this morning. We're going to get you angry this afternoon. | ||
| The Senate's got every opportunity to put a cap on this. | ||
| If these people believe the tissue of lies are the savings, if you believe in the savings, you did all this, just cap it, give us a number. | ||
| Give them $2 trillion the first year. | ||
| Let's do it. Give them a cap. | ||
| Come back next year and same time we'll review it. | ||
| Open, everybody's open. | ||
| War Room, Posse, very open-minded, creditors committee. | ||
| So we ain't dead by a long shot. | ||
| 202-224-3121. | ||
| Turn your fire today onto the United States Senate with the greatest deliberative body in the world and the toughest club to get into. | ||
| I don't know. You see some of those guys. | ||
| I think it's a club for the unclubbable. | ||
| As we used to say, Dr. | ||
| Peter Navarro. Dr. | ||
| Navarro, once again, the master of finding buried leads, found the political... | ||
| Peter, we're going to talk about your piece, but I've got to have you comment, because I put it up as soon as you sent it to me. | ||
| I was so busy this morning, I didn't get to it. | ||
| The Politico article... | ||
| And I said, take this article for the Boer and Posse. | ||
| Print this article out. | ||
| One of the 149 is in your district. | ||
| Make sure you go to the office or you go to a town hall with them and rub their nose in this Politico piece because it talks about the White House laughing in your face. | ||
| They got everything they wanted. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro. Steve, I don't want your head to get big right now. | ||
| But what that article in Politico teaches us yet again is that the Democrats have far better strategists than the Republicans. | ||
| And the essence of that Politico article was that Biden and the Democrats, they didn't even think McCarthy was going to come in. | ||
| But once he did, they kept their powder dry. | ||
| They didn't say anything. | ||
| They just let him surrender. | ||
| And they haven't basically boasted until now with a leak to Politico, right? | ||
| And when I say, don't let your head get big, they need Steve Bannon. | ||
| All the Republicans would have had to do was listen to the war room's advice. | ||
| I mean, Bannon knows how to win a war. | ||
| And those guys are like, they're nowhere. | ||
| Now, here's the thing. | ||
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It's like, The original Senate is Steve. | |
| Hang on. Hang on. | ||
| Hang on. Hang on. Take the compliment, dude. | ||
| Go ahead. No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| McCarthy and them are not looking to win. | ||
| They are the party of the donors. | ||
| It's not MAGA. No, I get that. | ||
| It's not really the Trump movement. I get that. | ||
| So they want to surrender. | ||
| They want to surrender. | ||
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They're not looking to win. But here's the follow through. | |
| I remember some of the best days I ever had were at the rallies when Trump did The snake poem. | ||
| The original sin of this whole defeat here was back when the war room was covering the speakership debate itself. | ||
| And we lost Marjorie Taylor Greene and Jim Jordan. | ||
| Now hear me out here. And Marjorie Taylor Greene is like the woman in Trump's snake poem. | ||
| It's like this good Samaritan woman finds a sick snake, nurses it back to health, the snake bites it, and the woman's last dying breath is, you know, why? | ||
| And it's because... I'm a snake. | ||
| Okay, Marjorie, Kevin's a snake. | ||
| Okay? You didn't learn that lesson. | ||
| Jim, you didn't learn that lesson. | ||
| And here we are. And Steve, this is catastrophic economically because we didn't hit the two marks we had to reduce spending. | ||
| re-establish strategic energy dominance, but it's really, it hurts us politically because he kicked that can down the road. | ||
| And now this bombshell, it is a bombshell, that it was McCarthy that was pushing it. | ||
| In the article I got up on the Substack, I basically said that it was stupid for McCarthy to do it, but selfish. | ||
| Steve, he didn't want that debate to come up again. | ||
| In 2024, because it threatens his leadership. | ||
| So he put himself above the Republican Party, above the people of Main Street, above MAGA, above the Posse, above this country for his own personal climb. | ||
| Up the ladder that dude is a snake and I you know I hope that there's some courage among conservatives now among the 70 to at least make a run at that guy cuz he's got no business being speaker of a house that's controlled by the Republican Party at least the Republican Party that we'd love it to be. | ||
| Hang on real quickly cuz we have sub next but I want you I need you to stay for a minute. | ||
| By the way, folks, we've got so many other stories. | ||
| We're going to try to get in here today. | ||
| We're going to go live. There's a lot going on, so strap in. | ||
| 202-224-3121. | ||
| Work the Senate today. Senate is your work. | ||
| Work the Senate. Get some reps in. | ||
| I've got a minute here. I want you to take it. | ||
| Is the biggest crime of this bill institutionalized stagflation? | ||
| If this thing goes through as is, do we have the lost decade of Japan in front of us, sir? | ||
| We do. The three spending bills Biden and the Democrats passed, mega trillions, are pushing demand-pull inflation. | ||
| Strategic energy dominance means that Russia And the Saudis are now setting oil prices, rather than America, at 30 % to 50 % higher than they would be. | ||
| It's a pure wealth transfer out there, plus a shock to the system. | ||
| Those two marks were what we had to hit, Kevin. | ||
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And you blew it on both ends. | |
| And politically, you blew it because you kicked the can down the road and won't allow us to let this debt deal be part. | ||
| He took no one to the Oval to negotiate. | ||
| He should have taken Russ's vote. | ||
| He didn't. He's an idiot. | ||
| Dr. Navarre, can you hang out just for one second? | ||
| I want to finish up here. | ||
| By the way, Peter's been looking to get the snake poem in. | ||
| From time immemorial, he finally got it today on 1 June, the year of our Lord 2023. | ||
| Take your number two pencil out. | ||
| Write that down in your log book. | ||
| Log it. Navarra got it. | ||
| Worked it and got it. Short break. | ||
| Gorka Navarra next. This is just going to become the norm whenever this needs to be raised. | ||
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Well, that's why the starting point in this negotiation, which Speaker McCarthy insisted on, was that we would postpone facing this again at least until the end of next year. | |
| And that, to me, is a promise that really convinced a lot of us that we can move forward and not have this hanging over our heads. | ||
| All right, Senator Durbin, thank you. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| Right there, and I have not been a motion-to-vacate guy because I think you need a plan, you need a strategy. | ||
| We're going to get him. But right there, he ought to resign. | ||
| He ought to resign. | ||
| If Grace and Moe want to figure out the team, we can get that clip. | ||
| I want to put that clip up everywhere. | ||
| I particularly want the War Room Posse to be a force multiplier. | ||
| They push that out with a just-resigned-now. | ||
| Insisted, this Dick Durbin, The apparatus knows what's going on. | ||
| That Speaker McCarthy insisted, insisted that you give a clean debt ceiling for two years with no cap. | ||
| He insisted. He should resign. | ||
| He should absolutely. | ||
| If that is true, of course, it's Dick Durbin. | ||
| If that is true, first of all, McCarthy will come out and deny it immediately. | ||
| Doesn't seem to deny it. Let's see him deny it. | ||
| As Peter and Navarro are going to show you projections, you've got the lost decade of Japan in front of you. | ||
| If you're under 40, sorry. | ||
| This is the biggest vote of the 118th Congress. | ||
| I did lose Dobbs. | ||
| The great Lou Dobbs has been doing this, I think, for four decades, and he does political economy better than anybody. | ||
| He said he thinks it's one of the top, most important votes he's ever seen because of how it sets the economy, and particularly where our balance sheet is. | ||
| Dr. Navarro, we'll have you back on tomorrow. | ||
| I know you're on watch on this thing. | ||
| Everybody's to the mattresses. | ||
| Maybe Rand Paul, and Rand Paul went off in that opening segment we had, went off about this no cap, two years and no cap. | ||
| They know what the problem is. | ||
| Peter, how do people get to you? | ||
| How do they get to the Substack? How do they get to your social media? | ||
| Steve, peternavaro.substack.com, peternavaro.substack.com. | ||
| What I'm trying to do about three times a week is do these short jab, quick analyses. | ||
| Today, I looked at this debacle of McCarthy and explained how he's institutionalized stagflation and basically made it harder, not easier to win back the White House and Congress in 2024. | ||
| And I'm blessed because one day a week, the Washington Times is putting up One of the columns. | ||
| So peternavaro.substack.com. | ||
| It's the Mike Tyson short jab version of Four Hours in the War Room. | ||
| And I get a lot of inspiration. | ||
| In fact, a lot of times I get ideas and then go right to Substack after you and I talk, Steve. | ||
| That seems to be a production thing. | ||
| Posse, this is so important. | ||
| This issue is so important. | ||
| Go ahead. Yes. The business school has always given the Department of Economics grundoons over their ideas when we retain them. | ||
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Peter. But I want to say something profound here. | |
| And then you steal them from me. | ||
| That's cool. Go ahead. | ||
| No, no. Those are homages. | ||
| Those are homages. Yeah, homages. | ||
| Unfootnoted homages. Thank you. | ||
| But you know in your own heart. | ||
| I want to make sure Dr. | ||
| Gork is here. Okay, because this audience of activists, you're smarter, and we make sure that we get your information, make you even smarter. | ||
| Understand what's going on here. | ||
| Inside the apparatus, they want you to stop talking about this, and they put out two shiny toys. | ||
| And I know for a fact because I talked to people that were working this. | ||
| Two shiny toys to divert your attention because they think you're idiots. | ||
| And it's not that these are not important. | ||
| They're very important. But they're trying to divert your attention now to throw you a little cube of sugar. | ||
| Number one is the J6 tapes, number one. | ||
| The other is Chris Wray. They want to pivot everything to the Chris Wray subpoena. | ||
| Navarro and I are guys that know a lot about subpoenas from Congress. | ||
| The Chris Wray subpoena, and overall that can be important. | ||
| It is not important today. | ||
| Just like I said, some other stuff, policy stuff, even President Trump, they're not important today. | ||
| You know, today's business is going to set what's going to happen here in the 72 hours is going to set the framework for the nation's economy for decades to come. | ||
| That's where on the ramparts and they hate it. | ||
| They want your attention diverted and they're going to put more shiny toys out there to divert your attention. | ||
| Because they think like the old Fox thing, just throw another shiny toy out there and they'll run to the shiny toy. | ||
| No, screw you. | ||
| Shiny toy up your keister, okay? | ||
| We're not doing it. We don't care about the J6 tapes today. | ||
| We don't care about Chris Wray and the subpoena today. | ||
| There's plenty of time to get to that. | ||
| Here's what we care about. We care about a McCarthy that a senator from, the senior senator from Illinois said, you insisted As I said today, the key thing is to find out, did Biden bring that up or did McCarthy bring it up? | ||
| And Durbin's given us the weapon. | ||
| If it is true and Kevin McCarthy should come forward and deny it, just like he denied on the floor yesterday they cut a deal with Hakeem Jeffries, that's a lie. | ||
| We now know for a fact, and I checked with many members, that he allowed Hakeem Jeffries to be able to spend To be able to spend money in the districts that were only going to be in Republican districts and now going to be in Democrat districts. | ||
| That's how he got the rule to the floor. | ||
| So we know he cut a deal, and the Democrats know that. | ||
| In certain money, it's not a ton of money, but it's to build a new library to do this. | ||
| It's always been that point of entry of overspending that we cut years ago. | ||
| He gave that to Hakeem Jeffries. | ||
| Hakeem Jeffries is a tough guy from New York. | ||
| He got some concessions. | ||
| You want to get this? It's a Democrat bill. | ||
| Dick Durbin gave us the weapon we need. | ||
| Thank you, Senator Durbin. | ||
| He said McCarthy insisted upon the two years. | ||
| So Kevin McCarthy and our office, we're going to check with his contractor. | ||
| Kevin McCarthy should step in front of the sticks right now and deny this. | ||
| Say that's a lie. I didn't do that. | ||
| In negotiations, I was forced to concede that, which is also ridiculous. | ||
| Gives up your leverage, but he insisted upon it. | ||
| The Republicans, your party, the ones you knock on doors, the ones you give money, they sold you out. | ||
| I want that burned into your soul. | ||
| All of this performative, and we got the cuts, and this is so historic, and you cut Fox on it, you got one moron after the other. | ||
| Oh, this is historic, and we took $400 million out of CDC. Do they think you're idiots? | ||
| You're talking about $15 trillion, talking about $4 trillion on the nation's credit card on the debt ceiling. | ||
| It doesn't cut anything. | ||
| They throw a couple of shiny toys out there, but they took $400 out of CDC. They think you're morons. | ||
| And now we've got McCarthy insisted upon it. | ||
| He insisted upon it. | ||
| Make sure you ask your representative, did he, is McCarthy denied it? | ||
| Did he actually bring it up? | ||
| Was he the guy that said it had to go through the election of 2024? | ||
| The two years which Dick Durbin just outed him. | ||
| Dr. Navarro, thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you for sticking around here. We're not chasing Chris Ray today and we're not going to chase J6. They're going to happen In the time they happen, Ecclesiastes, there's a season for everything and a time for everything. | ||
| This is not the time for that. | ||
| This is the time for saving the country financially and economically, and we're not gonna let bad, stupid, evil people like McCarthy and that group of hacks around him sell this nation out on your money. | ||
| If you give a penny to the RNC, if you give a penny to any of these guys, you're a fool right now. | ||
| Hold your money and use your leverage until we break them. | ||
| Dick Durbin. He insisted. | ||
| The Speaker insisted. | ||
| Peter Navarro, thank you very much. | ||
| Dr. Seb Gorka. | ||
| In the Senate, the big fight's going to be about the defense. | ||
| $890 billion is not enough for him, Seb. | ||
| Talk to me about this. | ||
| What's going to happen in the Senate? | ||
| You know this better than I do, sir. | ||
| And plus, oh, no, there's not enough Ukraine money. | ||
| I forgot that part. | ||
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Incredible. Incredible. | |
| What do you got, Seb? Two things first before we get to that. | ||
| So everybody needs to start doing what you do. | ||
| When you talk about what day it is, it is the year of our Lord. | ||
| So let's tag that to everything. | ||
| And secondly, you probably forgot this because you're a busy guy. | ||
| Just a little reminder about Dick Durbin. | ||
| Senator Durbin, when I was working for you in the White House, wrote to DHS to investigate me to have me actually deported from this country because I was working for the President of the United States. | ||
| That's who Dick Durbin is. | ||
| When it comes to this deal, I mean, seriously, yeah, that's who Dick Durbin is. | ||
| They're so tolerant of foreigners. | ||
| No, hold on, hold on, hold on. Because I can hold, I can hold, I can hold the break. | ||
| Think about this for a second. | ||
| Think about this for a second. This is the pressure Trump's under. | ||
| He's got a guy that has been down in Quantico, trained the FBI, and one of the top counter-jihad guys in the world, a U.S. citizen, a great wife. | ||
| They've been great citizens, great patriots, and Trump gets them in, and they know they're supposed to have 4,000 people. | ||
| We got 1,000, right? There's supposed to be 4,000 because there's no MAGA guys, right? | ||
| We get Seb in. | ||
| He's my deputy. | ||
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He's running. And Seb's there a couple weeks. | |
| And they're not just trying to get him fired. | ||
| Deport him. They're trying to get him deported. | ||
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That's the triggering of the Democratic letter. | |
| I still have the letter. They wrote to John Kelly at DHS to investigate me to get me deported because I guess I'm the only legal immigrant they don't like. | ||
| The illegals are fine. | ||
| Look, on this issue, I thought you'd enjoy that. | ||
| Look, it doesn't really matter. | ||
| I mean, they want more money for Ukraine. | ||
| Of course they do. And they're going to have some kind of stalling mechanism if they don't get more money for defense. | ||
| It doesn't matter how much money we have for defense, Steve. | ||
| If it's woke, If they want to spend it on drag queens in the Navy, if they want to spend it for more white rage CRT seminars at West Point, I just found out from the former Secretary of Veterans Affairs at West Point, They don't. | ||
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You can't major in military history now. | |
| West Point was known for two things, Steve. | ||
| You know this. Military history and engineering. | ||
| That was West Point. | ||
| Now you can't even major in one of those things at the premier military academy. | ||
| Unbelievable. All right, Seb, hang on for a second. | ||
| I'm going to hold you to the break. Got a lot more to go into, including your commander-in-chief was at the Air Force Academy today. | ||
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Struck terror in the heart of our enemies. | |
| The mullahs in Tehran, the KGB in Moscow, the CCP in Beijing. | ||
| Struck fear in it. | ||
| We're going to show it all to you next, only in The War Room. | ||
| you Congressman Eli Crane has joined us. | ||
| Congressman Crane, we've played at the Open a couple times, Dick Durbin saying that Speaker McCarthy insisted upon the movement of the debt ceiling to pass the election in 2024, basically two years into 2025. | ||
| Do you have any information for us on that, sir? | ||
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Hello, Steve. Can you hear me? | |
| I hear you perfectly, Eli. | ||
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Yeah, so we were in conference the other day and Kevin admitted that he was the one that made that call. | |
| And he said he made that call because he thought we might be in a weaker position as a party next year. | ||
| And so it really pissed a lot of us off because we wanted to take another bite at the apple next year. | ||
| And that was his decision. | ||
| Did he explain why he gave up that leverage? | ||
| Did he explain to you guys why he thought we'd be in a weaker position? | ||
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You know, I'd be lying to you if I told you I remember exactly what he said. | |
| I just remember him saying that he thought we'd be in a weaker position, and so he wanted to push it out further. | ||
| We're hearing that there's a lot of blowback. | ||
| How's your district been? | ||
| How are folks, because you were one of the heroes, obviously stood in the breach, but what are you hearing generally? | ||
| We're hearing that there's a lot of blowback from the 149 districts of people outraged of how this went down, particularly with no cap and two years out. | ||
| Can you give us any update of what you're hearing? | ||
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Yeah, the folks from my district, Steve, are sending in attaboys and encouragement, and thank you for holding the line. | |
| The one thing that I think they wanted to see more of, and I was listening to your podcast today, you said now is not the time to put in the motion to vacate, but that's the only disappointment that I hear from my district. | ||
| They want us to go hard and make sure there's some accountability. | ||
| But that being said... | ||
| God bless them. | ||
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It's true, and I don't blame them one bit, Steve. | |
| They're tired of this crap. They want some accountability, and they want heads to roll because they know what this means for their livelihood and for their kids. | ||
| But I'm glad that people, the 149 Republicans, Steve, that sold this country out last night, I'm glad that they're getting blowback. | ||
| And they can try and spin this every single which way that they want to. | ||
| But I gotta be honest, Steve, it was embarrassing. | ||
| It was a disgrace and it was hard to be in that room watching my colleagues, and many of them that I care about, sell this country down the drain last night. | ||
| Eli, as a combat veteran, particularly coming through Memorial Day, walk me through, how did that impact you coming back here, given what you, your colleagues, your buddies, gave to this country and, of course, the ultimate sacrifice of the honored dead that we honored this past weekend, that this vote would actually take place on the traditional Memorial Day of 31 May. | ||
| How do you size that up when you see people that know better and knowingly sell their country out? | ||
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How's that set with you? It really pissed me off, Steve. | |
| We had a meeting with the House Freedom Caucus this week. | ||
| I got pretty pissed off and pretty heated when Members of the House Freedom Caucus said that they wouldn't vote against the rule because it was seen as legislative terrorism. | ||
| I believe that's what they said. And I got in the queue, I got a chance to speak, and I said, I don't give a damn what Legislations think about us voting against the rule. | ||
| I said, we're losing this country. | ||
| We are losing this country. | ||
| And you guys are talking about parliamentary procedure that most Americans don't even know about. | ||
| It's a disgrace. | ||
| We're losing this country. | ||
| And you guys are more concerned about, clearly, your political careers than you are about this country. | ||
| And I ended up having to, you know, kind of apologize to the group, make sure everybody knew I wasn't Trying to single anybody out, but at the same time, it pisses me off, Steve, because so many men and women, great men and women, have fought and died for this country, and we are the ones that are selling it out. | ||
| I mean, sure, we've got plenty of enemies overseas that want to do us harm, but we're destroying ourselves. | ||
| We've got nobody to blame for ourselves, and you saw that in full effect last night. | ||
| Congressman, how can he, and by the way, tell your folks back in the district because Arizona is one of the backbones of this country and we love your district, love the folks out there. | ||
| And my thing of motion vacating, I'm now all for it because knowing that he was the guy that initiated this, he's got to go. | ||
| But how can he even figure he can govern When he needed Hakeem Jeffries to bail him out on the floor, even to get it to the floor, showed you what a Democratic bill is. | ||
| And then later he needed, what, 70? | ||
| There were 71 no's and I think Banks and Boebert were late but registered no votes. | ||
| So he needed more Democrats to vote for this than Republicans. | ||
| How can he possibly govern when Hakeem Jeffries is a tantamount right now, effectively right now, the majority leader? | ||
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Walk me through that, sir. Steve, I don't think he can govern, and that's the problem. | |
| That's why six of us never even voted for him to begin with after 15 rounds, because we knew that this is what was going to happen. | ||
| I sat in the Freedom Caucus when I went through orientation right after I got elected, Steve, and I had, you know, hardcore, experienced guys like Andy Biggs, Bob Good, Matt Rosendale, and others, sit there and tell all of us freshmen and everybody else in the Freedom Caucus that if you elect this guy, this is exactly what's gonna happen. | ||
| This is exactly what's gonna happen. | ||
| And this is what happened. | ||
| And it's just like, Steve, you know the deal from being in the military. | ||
| You know the deal from doing jobs that have very intense stress. | ||
| When you apply stress to people, what do they do? | ||
| They go back to what they know. | ||
| They go back to what they've been trained to do. | ||
| And this is who Kevin McCarthy is. | ||
| And it's not personal at all. | ||
| But we're not talking about relationships or some little love fest up there. | ||
| We're talking about the destruction of our country. | ||
| We're talking about the Uniparty continuing to sell our country down the river. | ||
| And clearly I'm pissed off right now, Steve, but it was disgusting. | ||
| And, you know, I'm still upset about it. | ||
| Eli, one of the things about you, you stay very close to your constituents, although it's, you know, four-fifths or 90 percent across the country. | ||
| You stay very close to your constituents. | ||
| Are they right now pretty adamant he's got to go? | ||
| There's got to be a motion to vacay. | ||
| He's got to be held accountable. Is that where they are right now, given what's happened in this fiasco over the last 48, 72 hours? | ||
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Well, they're pretty pissed, Steve, and I did get a lot of comms, a lot of phone calls, a lot of text messages saying that very thing. | |
| And we're definitely going to be looking at that. | ||
| But here's the thing if we're actually talking strategy, okay? | ||
| Clearly, we would need Democrat help to vacate Kevin McCarthy, okay? | ||
| That's just how it is. | ||
| You can tell how many loyalists he has in the Republican Party. | ||
| Yes men that do whatever leadership tells them to do. | ||
| Why would the Democrat Party want to get rid of a guy who's putting forth legislation that they're more excited about than we are? | ||
| You talk about the 149 Republicans, but there were 165 Democrats that voted for that. | ||
| So why would Democrats and Hakeem Jeffries, who are not only getting an additional $4 trillion for the next until January 25, but they're also getting all the earmarks that were promised to them in that deal with Hakeem Jeffries so that they could roll us in that rules committee or in that rules vote. | ||
| And that's, that's why they're saying that the advocate... | ||
| Sorry, go ahead. | ||
| You just laid out the... | ||
| You've just laid out the conundrum here. | ||
| If you're going to take him down, as you know, when you take a shot at the King, you've got to hit. | ||
| I don't need to tell Eli Crane that, who used to do this for a living. | ||
| Your constituents, I hope, know that there's a lot of folks like you and others that are working on this key issue right now. | ||
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Yep. Yeah. | |
| No, Steve, we're going to continue to fight. | ||
| There's still... And I know people, you know, they get so frustrated that they tune it out, but that's why I'm so grateful for what you do, man, because, you know, between President Trump coming along and, you know, with his America First agenda and just his populist national agenda, it made guys like me open our eyes, start asking ourselves some hard questions, but that's what your show does. | ||
| Steve, I got into Phoenix a couple hours ago. | ||
| I'm driving home from I'm driving home from Phoenix and I put on war room because I need to know signal. | ||
| I need to know what's going on. | ||
| And I'm listening to you talk about, yeah, whose idea was it? | ||
| Was it McCarthy or Biden? | ||
| And I wanted to let you know it was Kevin McCarthy all the way. | ||
| He told us that personally in conference. | ||
| And there are people up there who still love this country, who put their voters and their constituents first. | ||
| It's not about You know, what they can get out of it. | ||
| It's not about staying in office. | ||
| Most of us, Steve, that are holding the line know that leadership and the swamp and the establishment is going to be gunning for us, but we don't care because we know what's on the line, and it's so much bigger than any of our political careers. | ||
| Eli, what is your social media, Congressman Crane? | ||
| How do people get to you? Rep. | ||
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Eli Crane, if people want to go follow me. | |
| But thanks, everybody, for listening to War Room because it's one of the only places where we can still get solid news and, you know, like Steve says all the time, signal, not noise. | ||
| And I'm constantly listening to it myself. | ||
| Congressman Crane, thank you very much. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. With people like Crane, we're going to set things right. | ||
| Remember, we've got some incredibly powerful people on our side of the football. | ||
| It's just incredible. I want to go back to... | ||
| Eli Crane dropped another bomb there. | ||
| A buried lead. McCarthy did this because the party would be weaker a year from now. | ||
| Remember, let's go back to the original deal. | ||
| $1.5 trillion and or March, April, May, whenever the deal got done. | ||
| One year. So he's saying in May, let me let me think this through. | ||
| Let's think this through together. In May of 2024, the party's going to be weaker. | ||
| How can the party be weaker? | ||
| Let me think about that. We got the leverage. | ||
| So let me think. | ||
| Let me think. Oh, that's right. | ||
| It's the end of the primary. | ||
| I told you this was 100 % to take the leverage away from Donald J. Trump. | ||
| The party will be weaker. | ||
| The party will be weaker. | ||
| The dead husk of the Republican Party. | ||
| That will be weaker. | ||
| The party, we will be weaker. | ||
| The party will be weaker. | ||
| Because Trump will be the nominee. | ||
| And they don't want to give Trump any... | ||
| They would much rather be in the situation... | ||
| They just gave Joe Biden the biggest kiss he's ever going to get. | ||
| They just gave him a clean debt ceiling. | ||
| There's no restrictions on this. | ||
| Kevin McCarthy... gave Joe Biden unlimited, unlimited, no cap for two years because the party would be weaker to make sure, to ensure Donald Trump didn't have this weapon and didn't have the leverage and MAGA didn't have the leverage. | ||
| It's quite clear what happened now and McCarthy has got to go. | ||
| And Kevin McCarthy, just understand this. | ||
| You're going to go. | ||
| You might not go tomorrow, but you're going to go. | ||
| You cannot govern. | ||
| You cannot govern. | ||
| This negotiation, you had every piece of leverage. | ||
| In Politico, all the smart pieces right now are saying they're laughing over there. | ||
| They're trying to hold their glee back because when this thing comes back after the Senate, because my God, they can't pass it what they just got sent over. | ||
| One thing they'll do is they're going to add more in the defense and they're going to jam some more Ukraine there. | ||
| Got to have Ukraine. Got to have Ukraine. | ||
| You know, you haven't made any cuts, but the cuts you didn't make, you know, Americans are going to have to do without some of these goodies, right? | ||
| But no, you got to get more in Ukraine. | ||
| We got to pay more pensions in Ukraine. | ||
| Got to pay more teachers in Ukraine. | ||
| Got to pay more healthcare for everybody in Ukraine. | ||
| Got to do that. Have to do that. | ||
| Got to do it. Apparatus demands it. | ||
| Kevin McCarthy will be weaker then. | ||
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| Okay, that's making our Of course, that's the number one story in the world. | ||
| A lot going on, debt ceiling. | ||
| And by the way, the J6 stuff, some stuff's going to come out, the Chris Ray stuff. | ||
| That's all got to be next week. | ||
| They're trying to divert your attention. | ||
| They're trying to divert your attention from the only thing that matters. | ||
| And that's how they're trying to use you as fools and idiots to destroy this economy. | ||
| And you're... Your well-being with it on your nickel. | ||
| And we're not going to let that happen. | ||
| And we're getting to the bottom of it. | ||
| We now know McCarthy was the instigator. | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| Ask the 149, because a couple of the 149 are saying, oh, my constituents don't have any problem with that. | ||
| I don't think that's quite correct. | ||
| I think your constituents have a big problem with this. | ||
| Particularly ask them, McCarthy told you he kicked it down for two years and you signed off on that? | ||
| You knew that and you signed off on it? | ||
| That was coming from him, you support that? | ||
| And when he said it was weaker, did you ask him the question? | ||
| When McCarthy said to the conference, we'll be weaker, that totally coincides with Donald Trump winning the primary. | ||
| Is that what he meant? | ||
| If not, then what does he mean weaker? | ||
| How could we be weaker a year from now with that leverage? | ||
| How could you be weaker after you've given them a trillion and a half or a couple of trillion dollars at a time frame and they've blown through that? | ||
| Commies all screwed up, they've got to come back to you. | ||
| How do you not have more leverage? | ||
| Because you have more leverage. | ||
| You have more leverage. | ||
| You know, maybe what we shouldn't do is Graves, who's never had a job in his life, never had a job in his life. | ||
| He's some guy that's, I don't know, come up from, been administrative assistant, all this, never had a real job. | ||
| McHenry, never a real job. | ||
| McCarthy, never a real job, except for the hot dog. | ||
| How do you have those three guys negotiate a deal that's literally trillions of dollars in setting the United States economy, setting the United States economy on a path for a decade? | ||
| How do you do that? In what universe do we do that? | ||
| We talk about meritocracy. | ||
| Is that meritocracy? | ||
| Is that your best? | ||
| Is that our best? | ||
| Is that the guys you want negotiating? | ||
| You've got a thing that's worth hundreds of trillions of dollars. | ||
| You send that crew in there, that's your negotiators. | ||
| And their first opening bid is that, okay, here's the opening bid. | ||
| We're going to give you two years and no cap. | ||
| Two years in no cap. | ||
| That's our opening. We insist upon it because we're going to be weaker. | ||
| You wouldn't know the signal. | ||
| We think we're going to be weaker. We're just going to do that. | ||
| Is that absurd? You wouldn't have that group on a lemonade stand. | ||
| Check the resumes out. | ||
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Check it out, baby. This is what they did. | |
| It cannot stand. | ||
| It cannot stand. | ||
| Nobody worked that hard. | ||
| You did not ring these doorbells and work the phones and send the monies to the PACs and do all this. | ||
| You didn't do all that to have Hakeem Jeffries be the majority leader and basically put forward his rules. | ||
| He needed the 42 or 52 Democrats to get it even to the floor to vote. | ||
| The reason Hakeem did it, it's his bill. | ||
| It's Biden's bill. | ||
| And he still had to get paid off. | ||
| He still had to get paid off with the things that you can just pick and choose. | ||
| You can put some stuff in. You can build a bridge. | ||
| You can build a library, right? | ||
| These things you can do within the budget. | ||
| And he had to take them out of, you know, Republican things. | ||
| They gave him over to him. They turned around and lied. | ||
| Looked at the media and said, were there no side deals? | ||
| No, there were no side deals. | ||
| No side deals. No side deals whatsoever. | ||
| Okay, we've got a lot more to get to. | ||
| We're going to get to some polling. I've got Boris next. | ||
| I'm going to go through this in more detail, and we're going to go live to the Senate floor to check it all out. | ||
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| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back here in a moment, and we've got a lot to go through. | ||
| I think we're going to pick up a little of the Senate debate. | ||
| You know, maybe we can get a cap in the Senate debate. | ||
| Maybe we can get a cap. You know, I don't think so. | ||
| Now that Biden knows that the Republicans served it up to him, is that just embarrassing? | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| Is that the stupid? | ||
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