May 16, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Regardless, the report is now here. | ||
| It has dropped. And it might not have produced everything of what some Republicans hoped for. | ||
| It is regardless devastating to the FBI. And to a degree, it does exonerate Donald Trump. | ||
| This guy was the longest serving special counsel. | ||
| Four years. And the report offers us no new charges, no new revelations, not even new suggested rules for the FBI. I mean, they were so horrible. | ||
| He didn't even suggest any new rules. | ||
| He also had investigations into political matters that he ended up offering no advice on, just more bad writing and more Bush league posturing to Trumpers. | ||
| Really, he actually re-litigated cases that he lost in front of the juries that he faced over the last four years. | ||
| Not any convictions. | ||
| It's another sad, pathetic attempt to make suckers. | ||
| And we remember this because we showed their headlines. | ||
| He wanted to make suckers of pro-Trump cable news hosts and right-wing newspapers that already get burned peddling his lies before. | ||
| And what was his goal? His goal was to trash premier law enforcement organizations in America and attack the men and women who serve every day at the Department of Justice. | ||
| The only good news is at least his four-year taxpayer-funded boondoggle that was funded by working Americans, paying him to walk through the fevered swamps of Trumpism is over. | ||
| And Durham has nothing but a tarnished reputation to show for it. | ||
| 16 May, the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| It is Tuesday. | ||
| We're going to get into all this. | ||
| Remember the war against the administrative state. | ||
| And I say this as a combatant in this. | ||
| And I believe that I was forced to, by subpoena, of course, the then president of the United States, President Trump, In his first term, signed off on it on the giving testimony to Moeller, but I've spent more time in these investigations, spent more money out of my own pocket than any other individual, including, I think, Mike Flynn, Don McGann, the White House counsel and Reince Priebus. | ||
| So I was a I was a saw this firsthand. | ||
| As you noticed, it shouldn't be lost. | ||
| I've never talked about the Durham. | ||
| I thought it was a clown show from the beginning. | ||
| I'll just give you my two cents. | ||
| All this hype on it, etc. | ||
| And it was obvious. | ||
| It's important for today because it's obvious the administrative state was coming after with Project Crossfire Hurricane or Operation Crossfire Hurricane was clearly coming after President Trump and all these lies about Russian interference, all that. Complete, total lies. | ||
| But it's important for today. | ||
| Durham's weakness in what he failed to pursue, another Bill Barr, these are these rhinos, what they failed to pursue, is instructive for today. | ||
| Because remember, please remember this as a member of the war room posse. | ||
| The biggest revelations we have, and this is signal, not noise, on the Biden situation, is not simply the $10 million. | ||
| We're going to find much more they took from the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| As we outlined in August and September of 2020, when the laptop from hell broke. | ||
| The key thing to remember is that the administrative state has known this about the Biden family since 2015 or before. | ||
| We know it's 2015 at a minimum because they've seen the SARS report. | ||
| The administrative state is the Praetorian Guard of a selected elite uniparty to rule over you. | ||
| We've lost democracy. | ||
| What we're fighting for is to save our republic. | ||
| It is a fight to the knife. | ||
| One side's going to win, one side's going to win. | ||
| You can't compromise. I want to bring in Mike Davis. | ||
| I always think of Mike when we've got tough, knotty problems about the administrative state. | ||
| One thing, Mike, is the Supreme Court's put these guys on notice. | ||
| I mean, the Chevron... | ||
| So just to step back and make sure people understand the battle space here. | ||
| President Trump has already said... | ||
| The number one enemy of the American people, the number one enemy of the United States of America is the Leviathan we call the administrative state and their praetorian guard called the deep state. | ||
| Their more radicalized national security and law enforcement apparatus. | ||
| President Trump has said that. He saw the polling today. | ||
| President Trump's coming, roaring back. | ||
| I think he's up two or three points from the joke defamation trial and quote-unquote trial in New York. | ||
| President Trump has said that. | ||
| He's put him on notice. The Supreme Court's put him on notice. | ||
| Not just the West Virginia decision, West Virginia versus EPA, but now actually going to go back and look at, I think it was the Chevron exemption. | ||
| So the Supreme Court, and this is why they're coming after the Supreme Court. | ||
| In fact, if we pull it later, I'm not going to have time to do it now, Mike, but they had last night Markey on MSNBC all night talking about his bill. | ||
| It's a bill today to expand the Supreme Court because what they're doing is they're fighting the legitimacy of the court. | ||
| Mike Davis, give us your observations on Durham, the report, the process, why nobody was prosecuted, and how that informs us on our fight today in 2023, sir. | ||
| The John Durham report is devastating for the FBI. It evidences that the FBI actively worked with Hillary Clinton's campaign, President Obama, Vice President Biden and the CIA and others to throw the 2016 presidential election to Hillary Clinton. | ||
| They made up the Russian collusion hoax. | ||
| They made up the crossfire hurricane investigation to essentially accuse then-presidential candidate Donald Trump of treason with Russia. | ||
| It was completely made up. | ||
| And they made this up to cover up the facts That Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State, got caught with an illegal home server that was almost certainly hacked by our foreign enemies, our most sensitive secrets. | ||
| They were also covering up the fact that the Clinton Foundation, while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, was in pay-for-play schemes with foreign entities. | ||
| There was clear corruption to the Clintons, so they made up This crossfire hurricane investigation to go after Trump, the bad actors are fired FBI Director James Comey, fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, fired senior counterintelligence official Peter Strzok, but there were many, many others who went along with this. | ||
| They need to be fired from their jobs. | ||
| And it wasn't just the 2016 election interference. | ||
| They tried to do this again in 2020. | ||
| As you said, Steve, they've had SARS reports, suspicious activity reports on the Biden crime family going back to 2015. | ||
| They had the Hunter Biden laptop. | ||
| They've known for many, many years at the FBI that the Bidens are corrupted. | ||
| They've known that Vice President Biden took a foreign bribe and changed American policy. | ||
| When he was in office, there is clear evidence of corruption. | ||
| The FBI is slow walking and burying these investigations. | ||
| I want to make sure people understand the timeline. | ||
| These SARS reports are from 2015 to 2016 when he was still vice president. | ||
| Then Ray and Bart and these guys, when they get in there, they understand all this is going on because you do that in the change of command and relief. | ||
| They then get the laptop from hell in December of 2019, understanding that you spend five minutes in there with a trained eye like mine. | ||
| You understand immediately they're in business with the Chinese Communist Party and taking massive amounts of money and cutting deals left and right with the capital markets allocation apparatus for One Belt, One Road. | ||
| It's very evident. How can Chris Ray... | ||
| And Bill Barr and these guys, understanding they have that, how can they not inform the President of the United States? | ||
| How can they not get the system going? | ||
| And how does Treasury, because all this stuff's interconnected, they know about it. | ||
| How can that not happen? | ||
| My point I'm trying to make is that the administrative state, President Trump may be right, the administrative state is the number one enemy of the American people. | ||
| It's quite obvious now you have a Praetorian Guard like in Imperial Rome that will basically forum around a phalanx and protect the uniparty elite, Mike Davis. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| You have this fourth branch of government, the administrative state along, like you said, the worst element of it, the deep state, the CIA, the FBI, the intel agencies. | ||
| And they don't think that they are politically accountable to the American people through our elected representatives in Congress and our elected President of the United States. | ||
| They think they are an entity unto themselves. | ||
| They think they are untouchable. | ||
| They actually think that they control the political branches, that they control the American people, and frankly, they do. | ||
| They've shown this over and over and over and over. | ||
| I don't think the political branches have the backbone or the brains to fix this. | ||
| I think this has to be fixed through the federal courts and they need to step up immediately. | ||
| For the first 150 years of our republic, the federal judiciary understood its modest but critical role was to protect the American people from federal government overreach. | ||
| We escaped federal government overreach when we started the American Revolution. | ||
| Our revolutionary concept of our American Republic. | ||
| That was to escape British tyranny, whether it was religious persecution or other tyranny. | ||
| We've always been very fearful of a powerful central federal government. | ||
| We've always had divided federal government. | ||
| It had limited power. | ||
| We loaned the federal government limited power, specific enumerated and separated powers, powers separated Where Congress has legislative power, the president has executive power, and the federal judiciary has the power to interpret and apply the law. | ||
| Over the last 90 years, we've lost that. | ||
| The switch in time that saved on when FDR threatened to pack the court, we have lost that. | ||
| We have the federal government consolidating all this power it's not supposed to have, and then this fourth branch of government, the administrative state, has consolidated all three of those federal powers, the executive power, the judicial power, and the legislative power into these unelected, unaccountable federal bureaucrats that the FBI, the CDC, The CIA and the other intel agencies, throughout the federal government, it's out of control. | ||
| Again, the only way we're going to stop this is when the Supreme Court strikes this down. | ||
| Hang on, because I'm going to get to that. | ||
| I need to hold you through the break because I've got to play Markey on the cold open about the packing of the courts. | ||
| Given that, let's assume for purposes of this discussion, Brother Davis, I agree with you. | ||
| Tell me then, that is why, and people come to me all the time, Steve, why don't you spend more time on Durham? | ||
| Why don't you do this? Durham had the, correct me if I'm wrong, brother, but that's the epic failure of Durham. | ||
| That shows you, when you say the courts, there's got to be some kind of driver prosecuting, there's got to be a prosecutorial attitude in the courts. | ||
| The courts aren't going to sit there and just, like gods, deem this to be true. | ||
| You have to bring cases before them. | ||
| Isn't this the epic failure? | ||
| Am I missing it? I'm not a lawyer, but isn't this epic failure of Durham, sir? | ||
| Well, I don't know how you didn't find this sooner. | ||
| I mean, I guess that the deep state may not be cooperative, but John Durham said in his report, he said that the Justice Department fully cooperated. | ||
| And so if the Justice Department fully cooperated, how did they not find this sooner? | ||
| How did they not find this before the statute of limitations? | ||
| How were there not crimes charged here? | ||
| This is just brazen weaponization of our FBI. That's my point. | ||
| Where are the charges? | ||
| Where are the charges? | ||
| He had all access. | ||
| He had an unlimited budget. | ||
| He spent six million dollars. | ||
| He's quote unquote had bars backing. | ||
| He had four years. | ||
| Where's the beef? I understand, yes, the predicate he lays out is absolutely devastating to the FBI, but they don't care. | ||
| You just heard that's why I played Jake Tapper, who actually said it's devastating in his 30-second open, and then CNN the whole rest of the night just carpet bombs what Morning Joe says. | ||
| That's the narrative. There was nothing, but the problem is... | ||
| I'll tell you what, Mike, hang on. | ||
| Let's take a commercial break. | ||
| I've got Dr. Carol Swain here also on diversity, equity, and inclusion. | ||
| Mark Mitchell with some amazing polling on the invasion of the southern border. | ||
| We've got Ben Berquam, I think somewhere between Yuma and California. | ||
| We're going to get to Ben. Maybe Todd Bensman. | ||
| Alex Jones, possibly. | ||
| James O'Keefe, potentially. | ||
| You know, we're jammed today. | ||
| I think, if not, we're gonna have a pretty good conversation about the death scene and all of it. | ||
| Plus AI hearing, MTG, we're jammed on a Tuesday in the war room. | ||
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Senator Durbin is doing an excellent job with the majority which he has, knowing that Senator Einstein has been away. | |
| And I think he is putting together a very good strategy that is building the chorus towards a code of ethics being adopted by the Supreme Court or ultimately having the United States House and Senate have to do it for them. | ||
| So I think Dick Durbin's doing a very good job, and as each day goes by, as each new atrocity emanates from this Supreme Court, I think that there's going to be a consensus that action has to be taken. | ||
| And yet, Senator, Dick Durbin has not called for Thomas to resign as you have, has not called for Thomas to testify, and recently he said history will judge the Roberts Court. | ||
| It's not history's job to judge, it's Senate Democrats' job to hold the Supreme Court accountable. | ||
| Well, it's why I'm introducing tomorrow with Congressman Hank Johnson, with 60 House members, with senators, the Judiciary Act of 2023 to expand the Supreme Court. | ||
| We need to take action. | ||
| We need to repeal the filibuster. | ||
| We need to expand the Supreme Court. | ||
| We have to deal with this constitutional crisis that has been created by the Republican usurpation. | ||
| Of the Supreme Court. | ||
| And that's going to be the challenge of this time. | ||
| And we can't agonize. We have to organize. | ||
| And I do believe that the momentum is... | ||
| Please understand that this is another massive fight. | ||
| I want to make sure the war and posse... | ||
| I understand we got debt, we got the invasion, we got the country's finances, you got the wars. | ||
| There's a lot on your shoulder. | ||
| You got to have another stone put into what you're carrying. | ||
| And that is this massive fight over the courts. | ||
| And the reason is because Trump won and Trump put in conservative judges and Trump put in conservative justices. | ||
| And the tip of the spear of that was a fighter named Mike Davis. | ||
| And the reason we have Gorsuch and the reason we have Kavanaugh A lot of people worked on it and did an amazing job, but Mike Davis was in the breach and would not back off. | ||
| Mike, you see what they're doing here? | ||
| This is what the whole Thomas thing is. | ||
| They're trying to trash... | ||
| You know, they always revered the Supreme Court. | ||
| The Supreme Court was above everything, right? | ||
| In fact, I used to tell Levin and these guys... | ||
| I don't know how we get into this kind of judicial supremacy thing, but hey, that's the way the system works. | ||
| Now it's the exact opposite. | ||
| The Supreme Court's terrible. It's compromised. | ||
| It's illegitimate. You heard it right there. | ||
| And they've got a bill coming up to expand the Supreme Court. | ||
| And at the same time, the court is saying, okay, suck on this. | ||
| We're coming after the administrative state. | ||
| That's what the Chevron thing, I told Mike as soon as I saw that, I go, oh boy. | ||
| Here we go. This is a throwdown among, and this is power. | ||
| This is power. | ||
| Just like the negotiation today on debt, money and power. | ||
| This is what the imperial capital specializes in, Mike Davis. | ||
| Like we said, Steve, for the first 150 years of our republic, the federal judiciary understood its role was to interpret and apply the law to keep the federal government in check to protect Americans from the federal government. | ||
| Nearly 90 years ago, FDR threatened to pack the Supreme Court because the Supreme Court was correctly striking down FDR's very popular New Deal programs because these programs were not authorized by the US Constitution, our loan agreement between we the people and our federal government. | ||
| And so what did FDR do? | ||
| He threatened to pack The Supreme Court from nine justices to 15 justices to rubber stamp his political agenda. | ||
| And his court packing threat worked because the Supreme Court reversed its jurisprudence on the Commerce Clause and essentially held that the federal government has all power. | ||
| Unless the Constitution says the federal government does not. | ||
| Essentially, the court flipped the Constitution on its head, turned it from a shield to protect us from the federal government to a sword that the federal government uses to come after us. | ||
| And so for 90 years, we've seen judicial supremacy. | ||
| We've seen the federal government take all this power, the administrative state, the deep state, take all this power, and they've used it. | ||
| They've weaponized it against the American people. | ||
| It's on full display right now. | ||
| With the Durham report, the Supreme Court, this new constitutionalist majority on the Supreme Court, the first one in 90 years, thank you to President Trump for appointing Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett, and transformed the 5-4 left of Center Court to the 5-4 Clarence Thomas Court. | ||
| is on the cusp of rolling back federal power, whether it's the EPA case, whether it's the Chevron case. | ||
| The Chevron case was from 40 years ago. | ||
| Essentially, the federal judiciary told lower court, the Supreme Court told lower court judges to defer to these executive branch agencies on their own interpretation of their own power, which is absolutely crazy. | ||
| And of course, these executive branch agencies said, hmm, we're looking at this authorizing statute. | ||
| We think we have more power. | ||
| And that's what they did over and over and over and over. | ||
| That's called Chevron deference. The Supreme Court is going to get rid of Chevron deference before the 2024 election, and that's why you're seeing these attacks, this organized attack by the Democrats on the Supreme Court. | ||
| The Chevron deference. Get your number two pencil out. | ||
| Put that in the notebook. Okay, another piece of nomenclature and get into this. | ||
| But this is a full-out war now against the administrative state. | ||
| And ladies and gentlemen, it's going to get plenty ugly. | ||
| Trust me. This is going to get ugly because this is about the Leviathan. | ||
| This leviathan that the left set it up brainily because it's impervious to elections. | ||
| And it has its own. | ||
| It has its own judiciary. | ||
| It has its own legislative with the regulations. | ||
| It has its own enforcement. | ||
| That's why you got IRS agents that look like SWAT team members. | ||
| EPA guys look like SWAT team members. | ||
| They're coming after the administrative state. | ||
| We're coming after it big in the deep state aspect of it. | ||
| Davis, you're built for a time like this. | ||
| How do people follow you, and how do they get to your site, in particular if they want to support you? | ||
| Because you're doing God's work, sir. | ||
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| We're a mean and lean organization, and we can certainly use the support. | ||
| It's at Article3project, at Article3project on Getter, Twitter, Truth. | ||
| And my personal is at... | ||
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Thank you, Steve. Thank you, brother. | |
| Appreciate it. I want to bring in another fighter and brilliant, Dr. | ||
| Carol Swain. Dr. Swain, diversity, equity and inclusion, people are fighting back. | ||
| Explain what the problem is and where are people fighting back and how can they get engaged, ma'am? | ||
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Well, they're certainly making progress in higher education. | |
| Florida, yesterday Governor DeSantis signed legislation that would ban DEI in colleges and universities that are public. | ||
| And Texas has a bill, Senate Bill 17, that's in the House now that would also do something quite similar. | ||
| And these bills are important because colleges and universities have gone to an extreme where they were requiring new faculty members and administrators to sign ideological statements where they had to swear their allegiance to the university's marginalized groups, | ||
| and they would have to say in these statements before they were hired or to be retained what they would do to advance the cause. | ||
| The problem with the cause is that it is discriminatory. | ||
| The DEI programs that are so aggressive across America right now violate the U.S. Civil Rights Act because it involves discrimination often against white Americans, heterosexual males and females, and other groups that are not protected. | ||
| And at these colleges and universities, People, you know, are forced sometimes to participate in LGBTQ activities. | ||
| Dr. Swain, isn't this neo-Marxism? | ||
| Isn't this mal-cultural revolution? | ||
| I mean, what this sets up is a series of, this sets up the Red Guard to have struggle sessions against folks like yourselves and other, not just conservatives. | ||
| I mean, people are just middle-of-the-road centrist or even liberals. | ||
| This is a fancy title for basically cultural Marxism. | ||
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It is, but you know something? | |
| A lot of people don't realize that it's sort of like affirmative action, which was a deviation from the Civil Rights Act, turned on its head, upside down, aggressive in a way that many of us never imagined would take place, because it pushes for segregation, and it does discriminate against certain groups in favor of other groups, and it silences speech. | ||
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And the Supreme Court has ruled that compelled speech It's a violation of the First Amendment. | |
| The universities are doing all of this. | ||
| And Florida, the governor just signed a bill yesterday. | ||
| Texas is very close to passing a bill that would ban this at public colleges and universities. | ||
| And hopefully when the U.S. Supreme Court rules later this spring, On the affirmative action cases that they will rule in a way that it will have implications for DEI programs because they are violations of the Civil Rights Act and the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution. | ||
| Are you comfortable with what Governor DeSantis signed in the legislation in Florida? | ||
| Because MSNBC, Joanne Reed, all night long, they're saying Governor DeSantis is a racist that does nothing but a bunch of crackers in the Florida Assembly. | ||
| Do you agree with that, ma'am, or do you support this bill? | ||
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I've not read the Florida bill. | |
| I'm very familiar with the Texas bill because I testified for that one. | ||
| But if it bans DEI programs at colleges and universities. | ||
| I'm very comfortable with it because there are millions, if not billions, of dollars that are being spent on programs and diversity offices and sensitivity training. | ||
| That money It could be used for recruitment. | ||
| It could be used for remedial programs to bring in underserved populations of all races. | ||
| It could really open up doors of opportunities to persons in those states and across the nation if we did not invest in the programs and the elites when we could be investing in the people. | ||
| Dr. Swain, can you hang on for one second? | ||
| I just want to hold you through the break. | ||
| We have Mark Mitchell here with some amazing polling from Rasmussen. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro talking about the debt ceiling negotiations and the G7. Is Biden going to leave now? | ||
| He's made the debt ceiling. And by the way, there's no real negotiations going on. | ||
| This is all nonsense. You have Republican senators coming out today saying, oh, it's time for us to fold. | ||
| We're not going to fold. | ||
| The creditors committee has deemed that this is the least acceptable deal that we could possibly take. | ||
| In fact, we should be adding things onto the deal right now, like removing ourselves from the WHO, the World Health Organization, or backing the border security bill immediately. | ||
| Okay, we're packed this morning wall-to-wall. | ||
| Back in a moment with Dr. Carol Swain. | ||
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This is your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, welcome back. We got a lot to get through. | ||
| Dr. Swain, thank you very much. | ||
| This DEI thing, once again, is another massive thing, and I think Governor DeSantis and the team in Florida are doing a fantastic job on this, and I just hope they even get better and tougher, and I'm 100 % supportive of their going after these corporations. | ||
| And this DEI in the universities and in corporations is absolutely sick, and I heard from yesterday from a confidential source about when the defense industry contractors And going through their annual thing, they made these promotional recommendations and people came in from the headquarters and said, you guys are missing it. Everything's got to be under the DEI framework. | ||
| Start over again. And it was quite scary because these are highly technical jobs and they're not being promoted on their technical expertise or their ability to understand these problems. | ||
| So stand by for some heavy rolls on this unless we blow this out. | ||
| And that's why I think DeSantis and these guys in Florida and the team in Texas are doing a great job. | ||
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Yes, ma'am. Steve, in Texas, they have not passed the bill to be signed by the governor, and so for Texans that are out there in the audience, make sure you contact your senators and your state House members. | |
| They need to pass the bill, the stronger bill, and Texas will be a leader, just like Florida, across the nation. | ||
| I'm sorry, I had to do that commercial. | ||
| Dr. Swain, thank you. No, you're good. | ||
| Hey, you're better than Navara grabbing the mic. | ||
| Dr. Swain, back you right off. | ||
| Bannon starts going in her airtime. | ||
| We'll put it up there. | ||
| Dr. Swain, always so honored to have you on here. | ||
| I love you because you're such a fighter and brilliant and a fighter. | ||
| That's a rare combo. Ma'am, how do people get to your news site, to all your writings? | ||
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You can go to carolmswayne.com Or BeThePeopleNews.com. | |
| And I'm on all the social media. | ||
| And so follow me on Twitter, Facebook, Gitter, Truth Social. | ||
| My numbers are not really moving on Truth Social, so see if you can make the move. | ||
| We'll get this up today and we'll get it on Getter, too, because last night it went over a million and we had a thing. | ||
| Also, I'm going to tell my team doctors we've got to coordinate. | ||
| Somehow we have to hook up to co-host the show because you have a smoother style of dominating than Navarra. | ||
| Navarra's a little too rough about it. | ||
| You've got a much smoother style. | ||
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Thank you so much. Have a great day. | |
| You do the same, ma'am. A real warrior right there, Dr. | ||
| Carol Swain. Mark Mitchell. | ||
| I got Mark Mitchell. I got Navarro on deck. | ||
| So I wasn't trash talking Navarro behind his back. | ||
| I was doing it to his face. He'll be on in a minute, I'm sure, to give me commentary and observations. | ||
| Mark Mitchell, it's pretty amazing and blow away polling you've done on the border. | ||
| Can you walk our audience through it, Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen? | ||
| Absolutely. The border is Biden's worst issue and all these numbers are horrible. | ||
| And it's crazy how just in a few years, it used to seem like a couple of years ago, people in America, there was one ideology that watched their news source and believe their own thing. | ||
| And there was a different ideology that watched their news sources and believe something different. | ||
| And now it very much seems like there's the corporate legacy media and the government who have one narrative and pretty much everybody else in the country thinks something different. | ||
| And the border is by far the clearest example of that. | ||
| Is the current situation with migrants at the US-Mexico border a crisis? | ||
| 66%, two-thirds of likely voters say yes. | ||
| Only 22 % say no. | ||
| That's a three-to-one margin, an incredible spread. | ||
| This is, again, a politically divided country where, I mean, Biden and Trump aren't as close as they used to be, but on many issues, the right and left, you know, 50-50. | ||
| But here, 66 % to 22%, and again, it's not just a Republican thing. | ||
| The biggest one is independents who now, by a 70 % to 17 % margin, say that the situation at the border is a crisis. | ||
| That's the biggest number ever for independents. | ||
| And they've come a long way on another question we asked, which is, is the problem of illegal immigration getting better or worse? | ||
| Only 12 % of the country now says better. | ||
| 57 % says worse. | ||
| That's about a 5 to 1 margin. | ||
| But among independents, it's now a 12 to 1 margin, 65 % to 5%. | ||
| Independents say that the border is getting worse and not better. | ||
| Right before we came on, I dug up numbers from back in August. | ||
| And back then, it was only a 6 to 1 margin among independents. | ||
| So independents have swung in a major way. | ||
| And of course, Republicans have always thought the situation at the border was a crisis. | ||
| They're also a 12 to 1 margin right now, 80 % to 7%. | ||
| But again, it's fascinating how close Independents and Republicans are now polling on some of these really big hot button issues. | ||
| But of course, the Democrat numbers are newsmakers also. | ||
| 29 % of Democrats say the situation is getting worse and only 21 % say better. | ||
| So Democrats are roughly split to thinking more that the situation is getting worse. | ||
| And a plurality of Democrats, 46 % to 38 % say the situation at the border is a crisis. | ||
| Those are really bad numbers. | ||
| And I'll tell you what, something else that happened in the last week or so. | ||
| We've gotten a lot of flack over the last couple months because we've been dragging Biden's approval up. | ||
| I think I have some reasons for that. | ||
| Part of that is that we're still polling likely voters, whereas pretty much nobody else is at this point in the cycle. | ||
| Another one is we poll Biden approval every day, whereas a lot of pollsters are doing it as part of a big poll they do once a month. | ||
| So we let that number drift. | ||
| We're a lot less focused on benchmarking it to where it was last month. | ||
| But because of that, we get to see major swings when Big things happen in the news cycle. | ||
| And this border, it drove about a six-point, like in a two-night, six-point crash in Biden approval. | ||
| So people don't like the idea of tens of thousands of human beings illegally pouring across the border in what looks like an invasion if you look at the pictures. | ||
| Real quickly, you talk about it because even if you watch the mainstream coverage, they do as little about the invasion as possible and they play the empathy card for people who now realize they aspire for a better life. | ||
| But that's not what the asylum system's for. | ||
| And quite frankly, if you're going to do that, you've got to get into line on immigration and it'll be highly unlikely a lot of these people to get in. | ||
| And that's why they're invading, that's why they're screaming across, and that's why Biden is letting them in and exacerbating this. | ||
| How do you think people... These numbers are blowout. | ||
| When you have two-thirds and one-third on any topic in the country, that is like full stop. | ||
| It's almost like the transgender ideology. | ||
| How do you think people are getting this information? | ||
| Do you have any aspect? | ||
| Because these numbers just build over time. | ||
| Do you have any idea about that? | ||
| I think a lot of the pictures probably got out on alternative media about the recent border situation. | ||
| I think that Title 42 was in the news even on left or leaning news sites. | ||
| But I don't think a lot of our respondents to the poll are breathlessly watching the news every second. | ||
| I think they look around them. | ||
| I think they develop a narrative and form a judgment on what's happening. | ||
| And the border illegal immigration is by far Biden's worst issue when it comes time to rate the president on the issues. | ||
| It's his lowest numbers. | ||
| Then people know that the Biden administration is very soft on illegal immigration. | ||
| And we essentially have a manufactured border crisis. | ||
| We had a question back in January. | ||
| Do you agree or disagree with this statement? | ||
| There's a crisis at the border, quote, because the Biden administration has refused to enforce immigration laws and finish the border wall. | ||
| 62 % of voters agree with that, 50 % strongly disagreed, and only 34 % disagreed. | ||
| So, I mean, they know. | ||
| And it's on topic after topic, like you mentioned. | ||
| The FBI weaponization is another one where the numbers are just like right there in the strike zone. | ||
| So, I mean, they didn't need to see the Durham report to come out to know that the FBI was weaponized. | ||
| This is back in March. The FBI has become politically weaponized starting from the top in Washington. | ||
| 64 % of likely voters agreed with that statement, including 50%, half of Democrats. | ||
| That's astounding. | ||
| 61 % of independents, 80 % of Republicans. | ||
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| How do people get to you on your YouTube and all of it? | ||
| Well, I think I'm going to ask people to go to Rumble today and subscribe, and I'll tell you what. | ||
| Early this morning, we got our first warning from YouTube and another content removal, and it was the interview that Natalie Winters did, which I think was very important. | ||
| I won't get into it now because I want to post this on YouTube, but it's about how people are very concerned about vaccine safety, let's just say. | ||
| Follow us at Rasmussen underscore poll on Twitter, and please check us out on Rumble. | ||
| That shows you why we've got to crush these big tech oligarchs right there. | ||
| They put up an interview, boom, next thing you know they're on watch. | ||
| Mark Mitchell, amazing work over Rasmussen. | ||
| Thanks. They don't want public opinion. | ||
| This is the apparatus. Thanks, brother. | ||
| Peter Navarro, I want to talk debt ceiling and economics in G7, but I got to ask you, you were President Trump's right hand on basically sorting this mess out and using tariffs. | ||
| In my interview or my conversation with President Trump, he used every tool in the toolbox to secure the southern border. | ||
| What are your thoughts, what you've seen the last couple of days, but more importantly about this blow-away number, when you have independents, 70 to 17, Understanding is an invasion of the southern border being exacerbated, managed, and brought about by this illegitimate regime at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, sir? Steve, we talked about this last week. | ||
| I think this puts an exclamation point on the schism between Wall Street and Main Street. | ||
| As I explained last week, the concentrated benefits to a small group of special interests that are primarily corporates who want cheap labor and the Wall Street people who help finance all that corporate activity are the ones who also fund our congressional campaigns, a lot of the presidential candidates. | ||
| And so we get a policy where the costs are so diffuse in ordinary times where these illegals come in a steady stream rather than a wave. | ||
| That it takes an event like now to bring home the fact that you, Steve, I think you coined the phrase, every town's a border town right now in America. | ||
| So that's what the polling tells me. | ||
| I'm also heartened by the American people understanding my dilemma, your dilemma, where a vast majority of the American people across party lines now understand That the FBI is a failed institution that is a weaponized, partisan institution. | ||
| So on those counts, I think this is really good news for Donald Trump. | ||
| He's going to be the one who gets us back on track. | ||
| But what it says is that the heart of America right now is the heart of MAGA, and MAGA is the heart of America, because this is what MAGA stands for. | ||
| Secure borders. | ||
| It's strong manufacturing here in endless wars. | ||
| And yeah, by the way, a government system of justice that is not blind in the sense that it delivers justice to all. | ||
| We'll have you on later in the week. | ||
| I want to talk about this issue because you've been one of the people that the deep state, the administrative state, is trying to persecute. | ||
| But I've got limited time, but I want to hold you through because I know you're busy. | ||
| And this entire thing is about what are you going to do about it and how are you going to choke this down, and clearly the appropriations process is part of it. | ||
| This debt ceiling debate is all part of this about choking back the administrative state. | ||
| The Biden regime put up a $6.8 trillion budget because they want woke and weaponized throughout the government. | ||
| We know there hasn't been any serious negotiation. | ||
| They've had their Office of Legal Counsel, and they've been leaking, oh, we're going to do some better things on permitting. | ||
| We're going to address some of the energy stuff they're talking about. | ||
| But they've got to back off these cuts. | ||
| Give me 30 seconds. Should Biden get on a plane and go to the G7, or should he stay here and negotiate since he just sent a letter that's saying 1 June is the deadline? | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro? | ||
| I think you and I have a different view on that. | ||
| Biden doesn't want to get on that plane. | ||
| Nobody wants to put him on the plane because he's too old and feeble. | ||
| I've been on those trips. | ||
| It takes a younger man or a man with the Constitution of Donald Trump To do it, it's a few days, and it's important for the United States to show their face there, and you can negotiate on Air Force One going back. | ||
| The big issue, Steve, is what they're going to talk about. | ||
| Let's maybe turn on the break. | ||
| Okay, take a short break. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro, we're in the heat of this debt ceiling negotiation. | ||
| Dr. Navarro will give us the answer in a moment in the war room. | ||
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| Dr. Peter Navarra remembers the Paul Ryan fiasco on the border variance tax or whatever, the national sales tax. | ||
| What a fiasco. What a fiasco. | ||
| Thank God we put that one to bed. | ||
| A massively regressive tax, but anyway. | ||
| Just talking quickly about it. | ||
| I mean, Ryan set us up. | ||
| He promised the boss That he could deliver, as House Speaker, a tax bill. | ||
| So he and Reince Priebus, who was then Chief of Staff, talked the boss into front-loading that instead of doing the border stuff and the trade stuff. | ||
| And it was a friggin' fiasco. | ||
| And then they roped us into trying to repeal Obamacare before doing the trade stuff and the border stuff. | ||
| And we lost that beautiful 100-day Window where you could get a lot of stuff done. | ||
| And now Paul Ryan's over at Fox News on the board undermining this country again by stepping into Donald Trump. | ||
| So screw Paul Ryan. | ||
| Screw Fox News. What they tried to do was shift into a sales tax and get away from a tax. | ||
| They didn't want to tax the wealthy, which I was a, as you remember, a big advocate of. | ||
| They did what they did. | ||
| Priebus, and I love Reince, and he came around to your way of thinking. | ||
| I think he got fired too early because he finally accepted the Bannon-Navarro kind of view of things and what was pure Trump by the time he got fired. | ||
| But before that, he didn't want anything to do with tariffs and trade and getting tough on China. | ||
| And that's what the problem is today in this 2024 race, Steve. | ||
| We've still got this rhino Never Trump wing of globalists and this that and the other thing who want that border open, Steve. | ||
| They're Republicans who want that border open. | ||
| For the cheap labor. | ||
| And then the other source of cheap labor, of course, China. | ||
| And they like offshore, all that stuff. | ||
| You've got four minutes. | ||
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| You've got four minutes. I want you to tie together the RINOs because they're already making noises. | ||
| They want us to collapse on the debt ceiling. | ||
| They want more spending, they want an open border, and they want to play footsie with China. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro. Well, what's troublesome to me is leaking out stuff, trying to kind of do an end run on the McCarthy view of this as expressed. | ||
| by the hardliners like Gates in these negotiations. | ||
| It's like they're talking about doing these little deals and this, that, and the other things so that everybody can declare a win. | ||
| Here's the thing. In order for this negotiation to be successful, the first thing you have to do is take every step necessary to restore strategic energy dominance. | ||
| And the big problem with Biden's green push is that it's the full employment act for China. | ||
| To produce lithium batteries and parts for electric vehicles and to do that. | ||
| So that's no good. | ||
| On a demand-pull inflation standpoint, you simply have to reduce the mass of spending if you have any hope of reducing inflation at all. | ||
| And then you've got the things that I think are hot buttons for the American people, and rightly so. | ||
| Doubling the size of the IRS. I mean, that's friggin insane. | ||
| Beefing up the EPA so they go out and screw the farmers and ranchers again out west. | ||
| That's insane. So it's time for a principled position. | ||
| The bigger catastrophe here, Steve, the bigger catastrophe is not getting a deal that Is solving our inflation, okay? | ||
| The word catastrophe is what all these spin doctors are putting out. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| Hang on. Hang on. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Hang on. Hang on. | ||
| Hang on. Hang on. | ||
| I'm taking the mic. You just sit there. | ||
| Anna Polina Luna has just tweeted, Biden doesn't have the votes in the Senate to raise a clean debt ceiling. | ||
| He may be trying to play hardball, but the GOP is not budging on this, not all caps. | ||
| Do you support that position, Dr. | ||
| Peter Navarro? Of course. | ||
| I mean, look, of course. | ||
| You have to take a hard line. | ||
| The reality is, it's not a hard line. | ||
| We're facing a friggin' Economic crisis would cost push inflation from the failure of strategic energy dominance. | ||
| Demand pull inflation from too much spending. | ||
| We're going out of control with the Federal Reserve. | ||
| We're choking off wages. | ||
| We're choking off our housing sector. | ||
| This is the time. What I'd love to see is these congressmen speak a little bit more eloquently and literately about what the stakes are, that it's about inflation and national security. | ||
| I'm not hearing that because it's not in their wheelhouse. | ||
| They weren't trained to do that. | ||
| Too many of them were trained to just pick up the campaign contributions, shake your hand, and tell you to vote for them. | ||
| Okay. Real quickly, talk about your substack. | ||
| By the way, I'm announcing now we're going to make it free for all congressmen, the macro course, the Harvard macro course of Dr. | ||
| Peter Navarro. Tell us where to go to get that. | ||
| Tell us where to go to get it in your substack, brother. | ||
| Yeah, the Substack is peternavaro.substack.com, peternavaro.substack.com. | ||
| It's the hub for everything I'm doing right now on Trump 2024, all this stuff about China. | ||
| I introduced last week, now I'm going to do a weekly economic and financial market wrap each week, which I think will be very helpful protecting people's 401ks and IRAs. | ||
| And so it's peternavaro.substack.com. | ||
| By the way, I give it away free, but I'm using those funds from a legal defense fund. | ||
| So if you can, pay for it. | ||
| But the course, the macro course, I'm so honored to have the War Room sponsored as their first course. | ||
| It's a beautiful course. | ||
| By the way, you stole the logo from Carol Swain. | ||
| Look at her picture, by the way. | ||
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