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Feb. 27, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2544: Zelensky Lectures The West
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peter navarro
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boris epshteyn
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Mr. President, Mr.
Secretary General, fellow council members, one year and one week ago, On February 17th, 2022, I warned this Council that Russia was planning to invade Ukraine.
I said that Russia would manufacture a pretext and then use missiles, tanks, soldiers, cyber attacks to strike pre-identified targets, including Kyiv, with the aim of toppling Ukraine's democratically elected government.
Russia's representative, the same representative who will speak today, Called these, and I quote, groundless accusations.
Seven days later, on February 24th, 2022, Russia launched its full-scale invasion.
Due to fierce resistance by Ukraine's defenders, President Putin failed in his primary objective to conquer Ukraine and its existence as an independent country and absorb it into Russia.
Then, he dusted off his Crimea playbook from 2014.
He called snap referenda in four occupied parts of Ukraine, deported Ukrainians, bussed in Russians, held sham votes at gunpoint, and then manipulated the results to claim near-unanimous support for joining the Russian Federation.
When President Putin couldn't break the Ukrainian military, he intensified efforts to break Ukrainian spirit.
Over the last year, Russia has killed tens of thousands of Ukrainian men, women, and children, uprooted more than 13 million people from their homes, destroyed more than half of the country's energy grid, bombed more than 700 hospitals, 2,600 schools, and abducted at least 6,000 Ukrainian children, some as young as four months old, and relocated them to Russia.
And yet, the spirit of the Ukrainians remains unbroken.
If anything, it's stronger than ever.
Here we are sadly facing a full year of war.
And I don't think anybody realized at the beginning that we would be here.
The American people, they know what it's like to fight for independence.
They know how important sovereignty is.
And the American people always want to stand up for those kinds of values, for democracy, for freedom, and for independence.
And they're doing that now in helping Ukraine as they fight for their very lives and for their independence.
And we're absolutely working in lockstep with allies and partners to make sure that Ukraine can succeed on the battlefield so that this war can end.
And the sooner it can end, the sooner that it can be a peace, a just peace that President Zelensky will support, the sooner this extra pressure that Mr.
Putin has caused on the global economy, global food stores, global oil reserves, that can be mitigated.
in the United States suggesting that a growing number of Americans believe that the US is giving too much support to Ukraine.
What would your message be on the anniversary to those Americans?
Thank you. I would like to thank the American people.
I would like to thank all of the American people that are supporting Ukraine, the Congress, the President, the TV channels, the journalists, and everyone that has been supporting us.
And that percentage of Americans, as you've mentioned, is increasing.
I can tell them only one thing.
If they do not change their opinion, If they do not understand us, if they do not support Ukraine, they will lose NATO, they will lose the clout of the United States,
they will lose the leadership position that they are adjoining the world, that they are adjoining for a very fair reason, and they will lose the support of the country with 40 millions of population, with millions of children, Are American children any different than ours?
Don't Americans enjoy the same things as we do?
I don't think we're that different.
I kindly ask everyone to observe a minute of silence in memory of the victims of the aggression.
I thank you, Mr.
President. The representative of the Russian Federation has asked for the floor to make a statement.
Mr. President, we are getting up on our feet to honor the memory of all victims of what has happened in Ukraine, starting in 2014.
All of those who perished.
All lives are priceless.
and that is why we're rising to honor the memory of them all.
I thank the representative for their statement.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I can hear it all. So what about,
Bob, bonds, though?
If you're not looking to trade, if you're just looking for the capital preservation, and if you're looking for yield, how do those look relative to equities right now?
Well, there's nothing wrong with cash, right?
It often seems a little too boring for many investors, but when you think about yielding 5%, In a way that is risk-free when it comes to price and gives you all that option value to come into the market as new opportunities emerge.
Cash really is the best asset in the book these days.
It's just it's not as exciting at the cocktail parties as finding particular nooks and crannies in the market.
Just in terms of the Fed speak we've gotten today and in general this week, it continues to be We have more work to do.
The Fed has more work to do in terms of inflation.
But they're not ruling out the possibility of a soft landing.
You take that and you factor it against the fact that we've basically seen M2 collapse.
You've got this two-decade high in rates.
How realistic is it to believe that we're going to get a soft landing here?
There will be no soft landing.
And anyone who tells you that is hoping rather than looking either at the data that's coming in or at previous experiences.
And the reason why that is, is that when we look at the data that's happened, particularly today's data, what it suggests is durable, entrenched inflation.
And what has to happen in order to break that inflation is a significant tightening of monetary policy, and with that, a slowdown in the overall economy.
And so soft landing was a hope a few weeks ago, a small possibility, but it's totally off the table when we see the dynamics of what's going on.
The Fed will need to tighten, and it will need to get that slack in the labor market in order to achieve its mandate.
steve bannon
Okay, totally off the table, a soft landing.
It's Friday, 24, February in the year of our Lord, 2023.
It's the second anniversary of the, I guess it's the first anniversary of the war in Ukraine, started by our sociopathic oligarchs, or sociopathic overlords, as Ben Harnwell would say.
A lot there. I've got a couple of different ways we're going to break this up.
I want to bring in Dr. Peter Navarro.
First off, Peter, breaking news this afternoon with all this going on and everything is that China put out a 12-point peace plan last night.
It didn't look like it got to the core of the issues that I thought.
And Zelensky, as soon as he heard about it, said, yeah, I'm interested in that.
And today he's, I think, formally gone back and says, I want to meet with Xi.
I guess he's just not that into Biden after $200 billion and kowtowing and slobbering all over him.
And by the way, that jerk, we're going to, we're going to, and he's a jerk.
Okay. Any of these conservative guys are saying he's a hero.
Dude, you're acting like simps.
Okay. Simps.
I want to cut that and play it back again.
Not right yet. But, Peter, tell me about it.
After all the kowtowing we've done, all the support we've given to this guy, etc., our mortal enemy, of which we called out and said, hey, we think you're giving arms to Russia.
Let me be blunt. They've been giving non-lethal military support from the get-go.
They signed a deal and agreed to a deal during the Olympics last year, a partnership that had, where they said, a bottomless partnership that goes all the way down.
Dr. Navarro, when they come out today, Zelensky comes out today and says, yes, I want to meet with Xi, even if I had to go to Beijing.
What do you have to say about that, Dr.
unidentified
Peter Navarro? He's what caught my ear straight up when I was listening to that.
peter navarro
He basically threatened the United States, Zelensky did.
He says, if you don't support us, you won't have our support.
unidentified
Did you catch him? I'm thinking, who cares?
peter navarro
The game that the Winston's playing, the game that Xi Jinping and Communist China's playing, the game that Putin's playing, these people are all transactionalists in a way.
And China sees this as an opportunity.
And in that way, see, they're no different from Henry Kissinger back in the days when Kissinger basically surrendered this country to China.
That was like the beginning of the end and made all these deals over Vietnam, this, that, and the other thing.
I mean, she didn't pay any diplomats.
Loved this kind of thing. But for Zelensky to do that, let's be clear about this.
The Biden regime, he either did it without telling the Biden regime or he got their permission.
Either way, it's bad because how can Biden allow this guy who he's given so much of American taxpayer money to to go play us I mean, we go bad to worse.
And remember this, Steve, we're in an inflation crisis.
We always got to tie these two things together.
We're in an inflation crisis in part because we've spent a ton of money that we don't have, American taxpayers don't have, funding the war in Ukraine.
Okay? All that increase in defense expenditures is not U.S. expenditures.
is protecting this country or our borders, protecting Ukraine's border.
So this is a situation that will continue to spin out of control.
Biden will get us closer.
We talked about this yesterday with his tactical nuclear weapons.
It's just, I mean, it just gets worse and worse and worse.
The other thing that caught my eye, Steve, was when Zelensky was thanking the, quote, journalists in America.
Last time I checked, I thought journalists in America were supposed to be a great news reporter.
Did you catch that, baby?
steve bannon
No, support. No, no, no, 100%.
Cheerleaders, baby. 100%.
You're cheerleaders, 100%.
peter navarro
But you and I, you've got to help the posse parse this, because there's a lot that's revealed in that crap.
unidentified
When you put that stuff on, my friend, it's a lot to unpack there.
steve bannon
We know they love it.
I'll tell you what, Peter... Thanks for your support.
Hang on. We want to thank the TV and the journalists for their support.
They're cheerleaders. Peter, hang on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to come back. We're going to get into the economics of it.
As today, it's come to the realization, which we've been telling people, there ain't no soft landing out there.
Short commercial break.
unidentified
Back in the war room in a second. It's all started.
Everything's begun.
And you are over.
Because we're taking down the CCP. Spread the word all through Hong Kong.
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP. Bob, bonds, though, if you're not looking to trade, if you're just looking for the capital preservation, and if you're looking for yield, how do those look relative to equities right now?
Well, there's nothing wrong with cash, right?
For many investors, but when you think about yielding 5 % in a way that is risk-free when it comes to price and gives you all that option value to come into the market as new opportunities emerge, cash really is the best asset in the book these days.
It's not as exciting at the cocktail parties as finding particular nooks and crannies in the market.
Just in terms of the Fed speak we've gotten today and in general this week, it continues to be we have more work to do, the Fed has more work to do in terms of inflation, but they're not ruling out the possibility of a soft landing.
You take that and you factor it against the fact that we've basically seen M2 collapse.
You've got this two-decade high in rates.
How realistic is it to believe that we're going to get a soft landing here?
There will be no soft landing.
And anyone who tells you that is hoping rather than looking either at the data that's coming in or at previous experiences.
And the reason why that is, is that when we look at the data that's happened, particularly today's data, what it suggests is durable, entrenched inflation.
And what has to happen in order to break that inflation is a significant tightening of monetary policy, and with that, a slowdown in the overall economy.
And so soft landing was a hope a few weeks ago, a small possibility, but it's totally off the table when we see the dynamics of what's going on.
The Fed will need to tighten, and it will need to get that slack in the labor market in order to achieve its mandate.
steve bannon
The tightening of monetary policy.
Dr. Peter Navarro, economist from Harvard and President Trump's right-hand man on all things manufacturing, walk us through this week.
I think it is setting into, folks, the crisis we have on fiscal policy with these massive deficits and nobody doing anything about it, and now with monetary policy.
Make it make sense for us, Dr.
peter navarro
Navarro. Sure, and that clip sounded like you, me, and Cortez about six months ago, right?
Soft landing, dead.
Okay, so two kinds of inflation the Fed's worried about.
One is the price inflation, the other is the wage inflation.
Today, the Fed's been banking on at least price inflation going down, and it got ice water in the face today.
Their favorite gauge, the personal Consumption Expenditures Price Index was hitting a hot 5.4 % and above expectations.
So that's where that guy's pulling that out of his back pocket, that this inflation's going away.
Because that was the one they thought would go away.
We also know that wage inflation is here to stay.
It's out of control.
And there's news out recently about how we've lost $2 million Workers of prime age productivity to retirement, and when productivity goes down, inflation goes up.
When you have fewer workers and you need them, and shortages go up, wage inflation goes up.
And, punchline here, we've also lost at least a million or more, and I think it's closer to two million, to long COVID. People just never recovered.
And they're out of the workforce.
So the wage inflation, Steve, is here to stay.
The price inflation looks like it's here to stay.
That means no soft landing because the Fed's got to continue to raise interest rates.
The markets reacted harshly today as they have been doing.
The smart money on Wall Street has been taking money out, hand over fist, from the stock market and putting it into bonds.
The way this works from a finance point of view, Is that higher interest rates and rate hikes from the Fed mean slower economy, lower profit, stock market falls.
And the bond, their prices go down, but their yields go up and money pours into there because you get a better return.
Now, what that means for the posse, okay, if you're just a blue-collar deplorable worker, you got more of a chance of losing your job if you're near retirement.
You've got a lot of chances seeing your retirement IRAs or whatever it is go down.
So this is yet more bad news.
But look, we've said this I think for over a year now that this is the direction we've been going.
And it's been up and down, but the trend is down.
steve bannon
Let me have, I want you to respond to this.
Because you were all four years, and people don't understand about Navarro.
I mean, he's a...
Peter's an acquired taste, okay?
He's got his own way he rolls, and he's gonna roll that way.
But he and President Trump are very, very close.
He was one of the few guys who stayed for the entire four years in a productive job.
I mean, he was the czar of manufacturing.
He did the China deals and wanted to do bigger deals and tougher deals, but the politics didn't allow it.
But on the day...
By the way, I think actually this date is the stolen election of 2020.
So it was about 60 days before he left the White House.
The 10-year treasury, which governs everybody's life, was 0.8%.
It's almost 4 % today.
It's 3.9%. I want everybody in this audience to understand something.
Particularly if young people keep voting for Biden and all these progressives, keep voting.
We're trying to help you not be Russian serfs, but if you want to be Russian serfs, vote for your bondage.
Vote for your slavery. It's a free country.
unidentified
Do what you want to do. But you're destroyed.
steve bannon
What they're doing on wage inflation, the problem they see in wage inflation are working class people.
That's where they have a million illegal aliens in the job market and they want more.
They want to break the back.
Their wage problem they have is not with the investment bankers, not the guys getting bonuses, not the McKinsey folks, right?
Although they're starting to lay those people off now.
The wage inflation they're trying to break is working class and particularly black and brown people.
That's why there's a million illegal aliens that they brag about.
So, Peter, tell me about that.
You've got the 10-year treasury, and as Cortez said so brainily today, it's not like going from 5 % to 9%.
Those percentage increases are brutal from 0.8.
Think about that, Navarra.
That may be your greatest accomplishment.
You and Trump, 0.8 % in the 19 before they sent the bioweapon over here.
The economy was on fire.
Wages were on fire.
There was no inflation. That is a golden age, ladies and gentlemen.
That is the work of Donald John Trump and his team.
Okay? 0.8 % to 3.9 % or 4 % when I just looked.
It's crushing people.
The infusion of illegal aliens into the wage force and driving down the wages of blue-collar folks is crushing people.
It's 22 months in a row.
These people are immoral and they're inhuman about how they're trying to do this.
Dr. Peter Navarro.
peter navarro
I had a laugh at our friends over at Axios this week.
They did a little segment on how workers have great news because their wages are going up, right?
And then they got to the end of this segment, they say, oh, but inflation's going up faster.
So the problem with wage inflation is that price inflation's going up faster, so real wages are going down.
So the deplorables are literally taking it in the shorts.
And as President Trump said in his beautiful 2016 jobs plan speech, this is a politician-made disaster.
This is Biden's Buttigieg and Pelosi, okay?
Let's start with them, right?
It's the overspending on things we shouldn't be spending on that the taxpayers don't have the money to finance, right?
So that's demand-pull inflation.
That's hot stuff. It's the supply chain inflation from mismanaging the global supply chain during the pandemic and not doing what I wanted to do and Donald Trump wanted to do, which was to domesticate Those supply chains so we wouldn't have to rely on the kindness of communist China.
So there's that going on.
And everywhere we turn, there's just one mistake after another by this administration.
And we're, I mean, Steve, we're heading towards a very dangerous path where inflation is going to look more and more like the 70s.
And we get what economists can't solve, stagflation, which is both recession and inflation at the same time.
unidentified
I can't say this enough.
peter navarro
The Fed's the wrong tool to solve this crisis, right?
Because the Fed can only solve one problem at a time.
If it wants to solve recession, It lowers interest rates to stimulate the economy.
If it wants to solve inflation, it raises interest rates.
But if you've got both recession and inflation you're fighting with, your hands are tied.
Whatever you do to solve one problem makes the other worse.
steve bannon
That's where we're going.
They don't understand that. This also shows...I think they understand.
I don't think they care. This is why McCarthy and the guys on the appropriations, we need massive cuts now in this year's appropriation.
We've got to use the debt ceiling, and I'm hearing that they're going to come in with the old okey-doke.
Because they don't want to burden the 24 candidate with something that's not politically palatable.
No. We need to save the country.
Don't worry about the 24 candidate.
Trump has got big shoulders.
He's got big shoulders. He'll handle it.
He's a big boy. He knows what he's doing.
He's a deal guy. We've got to have that dead ceiling.
And I'm telling you, they're all running for the hills because they know the cuts got to come out of certain areas.
And we need patriots and heroes.
peter navarro
Go ahead, sir. I just want to reemphasize that.
Kevin McCarthy, this is your witness test here.
You've got one mission right now, which is to fight the debt ceiling fight.
You do not give them the debt ceiling unless you get meaningful reductions in spending, full stop.
If you do anything short of that, then you have hailed your party, this country, and the deplorables that are going to take it the worst time.
Okay? The billionaires are going to do just fine.
But that's what this is about.
So, Steve, I'm so glad you brought that back to the debt ceiling because that's what this is all about now in terms of what we can do.
steve bannon
Okay, Peter, I know you've got to go, but you've got to hang on.
Short break, because I'm going to talk about the podcast on the other side.
I know you've got to bounce. Short commercial break.
Dr. Peter Navarro is with us.
I'm trying to track down Boris.
We're packed. We've got Todd Benzman.
We've got Joe Allen. There is so much going on this afternoon.
Market reports, not good.
As we told you, not good.
You can't run and hide from the laws of physical gravity.
All next, In the War Room.
peter navarro
Stick down the CCP!...of this story as a tale in two acts.
Act 1 takes place between the November 3rd, 2020 presidential election and the filing of a $1.6 billion lawsuit by a voting machine company on March 26th, 2021.
Act 2 includes the rise of blatant never-Trumpism within Fox after the filing of that lawsuit.
Who exactly am I talking about here?
Some of the big names that come to mind on the Never Trump side include Brett Baer, who made that on-air bogus Arizona call.
Karl Rove, chief strategist for the globalist George W. Bush, Mitch McConnell wing of the traditional Republican Party.
The Fox News anchor Canadian John Roberts, who used to constantly chide me on and off the air about my nationalistic and bi-American views, The always acerbic Neil Cavuto, who I actually like, and before he parachuted off to Fox Island to CNN land, Chris Wallace, who I genuinely dislike.
On the board of directors, there is also former Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, who pops up constantly on the air to throw digs and darts at Donald Trump.
Of course, in the executive corps, there is Suzanne Scott, who runs Fox News, and Lauren Pedersen, who runs Fox Business.
Here, I should note that it appears to be primarily Suzanne Scott and Lauren Pedersen who enforce the ban against televising Trump rallies and prevent pro-Trump folks like me from getting any airtime on Fox.
So, here's my request, advice, and admonition all rolled up into one big ask.
Until Fox News starts televising Trump rallies, and until it allows legitimate pro-Trump surrogates like me and Mike Lindell and Rudy Giuliani back on their airwaves, please cut the Fox News cord.
Do it today. So cut that Fox News cord and try Real America's Voice today.
And particularly on that Real America's Voice, Steve Bannon's War Room, John Solomon, and Charlie Kirk Show.
On the print side, you can try the drudge alternative, CitizenFreePress.com.
That's CitizenFreePress.com to view the daily news landscape.
Of course, you should not miss the Hoff Brothers Gateway Pundit, Darren Beattie's Revolver News, or Rahim Kassam's National Pulse.
And of course, my two favorite national and international newspapers are the Epoch Times and Washington Times.
steve bannon
There are millions of people in this country that don't know that President Trump went to East Palestine, Ohio, because Fox didn't cover one second of it.
It's one thing to not cover rallies.
They can make decisions about that.
There's another thing about not having Peter Navarro on.
They got to make a decision about that, right?
But not to cover the big news that came out of the forcing function that was East Palestine is not acceptable.
Do you agree with that? People should know Fox has put Trump in the cooler.
Under no circumstances.
And remember, Fox and the guys like Ken Griffin and Paul Singer and Larry Fink and Schwartzman, these guys, DeSantos is their weapon of choice now.
But they'll go to another weapon of choice, including a Democrat.
This is all in, and the Murdochs are in on this.
This is no chance of Trump back in the White House.
That's their policy, and they'll use anything, including a Democrat, to do that.
Peter Navarro, your thoughts?
peter navarro
Yeah, you framed that correctly.
That was a legitimate news story, Trump in East Palestine, because it became a forcing function.
It was a huge political dynamic.
Where it forced Buttigieg and Biden to actually pay attention.
So to consciously make the decision to run silent and deep on that at Fox News, that's a serious breach of journalistic ethics.
And, you know, I would argue, look, it's like...
steve bannon
Hold it, dude. Stop, stop, stop.
Navar, Navar, Navar, Navar.
You get down to the Caribbean, you go soft on me.
You just had Zelensky thank...
No, you just had... And you picked it up.
You just had Zelensky thank his TV and journalist supporters.
They're not journalists, and Fox is not journalists.
They all have an agenda.
They all have a narrative, and they're going to grind it.
And here's their narrative. Anybody but Trump, anything but populism, anything but nationalism, anything but economic nationalism, America first, they want you in forever wars.
It's so blatant right now.
When they don't cover a second of the news that came out of East Palestine, Ohio, sir.
peter navarro
People need to understand why.
MAGA, what we represent, Steve, what we represent are peace and prosperity for the black, brown, and blue-collar Americans and the deplorables.
And that agenda is at odds with the globalist, traditional Wall Street wing of the Republican Party, which does better when they offshore our jobs in Mexico and China and around the world and takes advantage of the sweatshops of Asia and Latin America.
That's the agenda of Paul Ryan and Fox News and those folks over there.
And look, the thing is, the reason why I did this on the podcast People on our side of the fence really need to understand that Fox is not MAGA. Fox is not on our side.
Fox hates Donald Trump.
Fox News Corporation does not want Donald Trump ever to be president.
And like Nancy Pelosi, they probably want him in jail.
People on our side, and they don't know that, Steve.
People who are conservatives listen to your show, they watch Fox News, too, and they think somehow Fox is talking their message because, you know, Tucker gets on there, Sean gets on there, whatever, and talks some of the talking points that represent MAGA. But, look, it's like...
steve bannon
Well, Tucker's good.
Jesse's good. Maria's good.
But overall, the network, all I'm saying is, look, hang on, hang on.
Every, every, every, every opinion.
Hang on. I know.
I got that. But every opinion guy, every guy, they can make their choices about what they cover, and that's fine.
I'm talking about hard news.
Donald J. Trump going to East Palestine, Ohio, it drove the news cycle.
The not cover any of that shows you the fixes in.
By the way, if he covers rallies, he covers rallies, right?
Go ahead.
peter navarro
You're wrong about those people who have opinions on Fox being able to express any opinions they want.
That's not true.
unidentified
They have been shut up.
peter navarro
In the podcast, I talk about the self-censorship that's going on among a bunch of people there who are pro-Trump people, and they can't say a word.
They can't talk about...
unidentified
They can't talk about the election.
peter navarro
They can't talk about January 6th.
They can't talk about November 3rd.
steve bannon
They can't talk about any of that stuff.
Okay, hang on. I agree with that.
I'm saying something different. It's their choice if they want to cover Trump or not or with their corporate masters.
They've got to figure that out.
I'm just saying from a pure news perspective, The most important news hit we had this week was not Joe Biden giving away more hundreds of billions of dollars and rubbing up on Zelensky, who turned on him right away and wants a meeting with Xi.
It is Trump going to East Palestine, Ohio.
That is just flat-out news.
It's driving the political process.
Not to cover a second of that, not to make that part of your coverage, and a main part of your coverage, particularly if you're a conservative network, just shows you the fix is in.
They have no interest there. They are there to block Trump.
And they are going to work with Ken Griffin and Steve Schwartzman and Paul Singer and Larry Fink and all the other, you know, Steve Wynn, all the other billionaire oligarchs.
It's anybody but Trump, including, and wait for it, including if DeSantis doesn't work out, they'll go to somebody else.
But if that doesn't work out, they will support a Democrat like they supported Hillary Clinton.
They didn't support Trump in 16.
They supported Hillary Clinton.
I'm not saying pick Clinton this time.
They will find a Democrat, whether it's Biden or somebody else, to support.
Their main mission is to make sure Donald J. Trump does not get back into the White House on January 20th of 2025, which if we don't do, the country's gone.
I hate to be so brutally frank about it.
Peter, how'd they get to the pot?
unidentified
Go ahead. Yeah, and that's why I say in the podcast, cut the Fox News table cord until they change their tune.
peter navarro
Podcast, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, it's the Peter Navarro Taking Back Trump's America Podcast.
Peter Navarro Taking Back Trump's America Podcast.
Let's just get on and listen to it.
It's a seven to ten minute hit every day of the week, during the week, and it gives you really deeper insight into how this machine works, Steve, and the Cut that pox cord, brother.
Cut that pox cord. I love it.
steve bannon
I love the podcast.
I love the podcast. You know why?
Because I'm not interrupting you.
unidentified
Just kidding. I love interrupting you.
steve bannon
I know the audience doesn't love it, but I love it.
The crosstalk.
The crosstalk is where the action is.
unidentified
We could put it in the same studio with one microphone, because that would be a fist fight.
steve bannon
No, I could...
Okay, brother, go back to the Caribbean.
Go back to your sailboat.
Okay. Every day is a holiday with Navarro.
unidentified
Every day a holiday. Every meal a banquet.
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
We're going to get boards up.
Can we play the Zelensky thing again?
I want the audience to embrace this.
This is a guy you've given $200 billion to.
By the way, you should understand, in your nation's capital, it's festooned.
I got to use that word.
It's festooned with Ukrainian flags up and down Constitutional Avenue.
Is it festooned with the flags of East Palestine, Ohio, or Yuma, Arizona?
No, no, no, no, no. It's festooned with the Ukrainian flag.
Let's go ahead and play Zelensky, who's just not that into Biden anymore.
unidentified
Polls in the United States are suggesting that a growing number of Americans believe that the U.S. is giving too much support to Ukraine.
What would your message be on the anniversary to those Americans?
Thank you. I would like to thank the American people.
I would like to thank all of the American people that are supporting Ukraine.
The Congress, the President, the TV channels, the journalists, and everyone that has been supporting us.
And that percentage of Americans, as you've mentioned, is increasing.
I can tell them only one thing.
If they do not change their opinion, If they do not understand us, if they do not support Ukraine, they will lose NATO, they will lose the clout of the United States, they will lose the leadership position that they are joining in the world.
That they join for a very fair reason.
And they will lose the support of the country with 40 millions of population, with millions of children.
Are American children any different than ours?
Don't Americans enjoy the same things as we do?
I don't think we're that different.
steve bannon
Let's see if the fanboys...
Is Fox going to play that nonstop?
Let's see if the Conservative Inc.
fanboys going to play this.
If you do not change, you're going to lose NATO. Okay, note to self.
NATO is a vassal state.
How many NATO allies actually fought the Nazis in World War II? How many?
Right? How many? How many?
Boris, we got you.
Can I give you 30 seconds?
And I'm going to hold you through the break. You just heard Zelensky telling us what our shortcomings were for not supporting him, sir.
boris epshteyn
Oh, yeah. Zelensky is great, Steve.
Great for somebody from halfway around the world.
to tell us what we need to be doing while we've got a disaster in East Palestine, while we don't have a southern border, while we don't have a functioning economy.
Let's be honest, in real money, $60 trillion And who's bending a knee?
Hopeless, pathetic Joe Biden is bending a knee.
And a year later, Joe Biden has done nothing.
And his Democratic cohorts have done nothing but exacerbate and fuel the festering fires surrounded by nuclear reactors that is going on in the war in Ukraine.
It is a disaster. I said at the beginning it was a huge mistake for Vladimir Putin.
I stay with that now.
It's been a mess all around.
unidentified
Biden is the leading contributor.
steve bannon
Boris, hang on one second.
Short commercial break. Boris will join us on the other side about the meeting with Xi and Zelensky.
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Boris Epstein, here's my question.
And I can't even imagine.
I mean, it's incomprehensible to think this would happen to President Trump because he wouldn't allow it.
After all of this bowing down and kissing Zelensky's ass, The Chinese, and we know because Blinken is threatening to release the intelligence.
Everybody knows they've been giving them quote-unquote non-lethal military aid since the very beginning.
Also, we know they've been giving them lethal military aid and sidebars with cutouts.
Because Blinken's threatening to go to the U.N. and show the intelligence.
The Chinese throw out this 12-point program.
And the next thing you know, Zelensky, who's Mr.
I've got to have every soldier out of every inch of territory.
I have to have a trillion dollars of reparations, and I need – the United States has formally declared them war criminals.
They need to go to The Hague and be tried as war criminals.
The Chinese still have some bogus 12-point plan.
And next thing you know, Zelensky's saying this afternoon, I want to meet with Xi and I want to meet with him right away.
This is just one more humiliation.
In front of the Chinese, this shows you you're a tributary state.
This is why they have no respect for us.
And I know these gangsters better than anybody.
I'm the only first civilian in history to be fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party across the board because they know I'm their enemy.
Okay, and I know how to take them down working with Lao Ba Jing.
Talk to me about everything Biden's done, including our nation's capitalist festooned with Ukrainian flags up and down Constitution Avenue.
For them to sit there at the first time that Xi and his team scratches him on the belly, he rolls over and wants a meeting, sir.
boris epshteyn
Of course, Steve. And by the way, this is a meeting that Zelensky is asking for with the Chinese while our defense secretary, the American defense secretary, Lloyd Austin, is saying, oh, you know, I keep calling the Chinese defense minister.
He just won't pick up.
Oh, well, we'll just keep calling.
This is a disaster.
It's an embarrassment.
And it is another indication of just how terrible, how pathetic, how awful this lack of leadership, this void of leadership is.
And what we have right now There's an illegitimate president, a legitimate administration in the United States, and everybody knows it.
And that's why they're disrespecting Joe Biden, disrespecting the defense secretary, disrespecting America.
And Zelensky takes all our money, takes all our resources, let's be honest, boots on the ground, and he throws it right in our face and says, let me meet with Xi, maybe I'll get more.
That is double dealing.
That is double dealing that would have been expected by anybody with a half an understanding, half an understanding.
of world politics.
But hey, go back to Barack Obama.
Never underestimate Joe Biden's ability to F things up.
I don't want to get you fined here, Steve.
But that's what it comes down to.
Joe Biden is a disaster.
His administration is a disaster.
And they have perpetuated a war in Eastern Europe in a location that's led to two world wars.
And now we're fast approaching a third.
And only President Trump could solve it.
unidentified
And he would do it in 24 hours.
steve bannon
What is your take, since you know that neighborhood pretty well, what is your take on Zelensky lecturing the American people that don't support him about what's going to befall us if we don't get in line and start and continue to give him unlimited amount of money, unlimited amount of arms, sir?
boris epshteyn
It's a complete lack of self-understanding, a complete lack of self-awareness, but it is a total lack of awareness.
Of Joe Biden, total lack of awareness of just how far he could push Biden, how far he could push the Democrats, and the fact that he senses that a good section of this country, and way too large in our estimation, is more obsessed with the Ukraine than they care about, the United States of America. All those mean-speakers of these dalastites wanting to become Ukraine just so they can get some aid, they're not funny. They're sad because they're true. And they're a slap in the face to America. They're a slap in
the face to our illegitimate president and illegitimate administration, because something has got to be done about it. All we can do is elect a new leader and bring President Trump back to the White House as soon as possible.
steve bannon
Boris, what is your social media?
boris epshteyn
How do people follow you? These information and right now, It's coming fast, and it's coming furious.
And here's what I'll say. President Trump is crushing one of the polls.
And why? Because the American people recognize that they need his broad shoulders back as soon as possible.
My information, the website is hotborrscp.com right now.
Sign up on borrscp.com.
Hot on Twitter at Borrscp.
Hot on Twitter at Borrscp. Hot on Twitter at Borrscp.
Hot on Twitter at Borrscp.
Stay strong. God bless. And I'll talk to you tomorrow.
Actually, I'll talk to you on Sunday.
steve bannon
Shabbat shalom. Boris, thank you very much.
Honored to have you on here. I want to go back to President Trump in East Palestine was historic.
And don't think that's the last time they're going to see him and the people around that region because I think there's a lot going on, a lot of investigative work going on.
We're going to get to the bottom and hold EPA accountable, hold the Pennsylvania governor accountable, the Ohio governor accountable.
They're not going to throw the fire chief under the bus.
They're not going to worm away.
And we're also going to hire, obviously, the scumbag chairman-CEO of Norfolk Southern.
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