Feb. 23, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
| We're bringing thousands of bottles of water, Trump water actually, most of it. | ||
| Some of it we had to go to a much lesser quality water. | ||
| You want to get those Trump bottles, I think, more than anybody else. | ||
| But we're bringing a lot of water, thousands of bottles, and we have it in trucks, and we brought some on my plane today. | ||
| But to that end, I'm pleased to announce that we've helped coordinate the delivery of the water and bottled water as well as the tractor trailers full of it. | ||
| We have big tractor trailers full of water. | ||
| I think you're going to have plenty of water for a long time, maybe. | ||
| The guy's just so gross. | ||
| He really is. I mean, talking about Trump water, branded Trump water. | ||
| And by the way, he's such a hypocrite, too, talking about attacking Joe Biden while Joe Biden is going, you know, risking his life, fighting for Western democracy, something he doesn't give a damn about, something, you know, when you have a guy that talks about suspending the Constitution, it's just absolutely insane. | ||
| And by the way, Where was that guy when there were disasters, when there were train disasters, when he was president of the United States? | ||
| Exactly. I never saw him out. | ||
| I never saw him out. | ||
| Where was he? Why did he decide to go here? | ||
| Well, he did go through paper towels at people at one point. | ||
| Former President Donald Trump bringing Trump water with him on a visit to East Palestine, Ohio yesterday. | ||
| That's where the Norfolk Southern train derailed and spilled toxic chemicals. | ||
| Trump spent his time criticizing President Biden's handling of the crisis and said he had a stronger working relationship with FEMA when he was in power. | ||
| Trump also claimed, without evidence, that the Biden administration only directed more resources to East that he's visiting the area. | ||
| FEMA said, specifically, this doesn't meet the criteria, and that's horrible, and somebody has to do something for those people, I said back. | ||
| When I announced that I was coming, they changed their tune. | ||
| It was an amazing phenomena. | ||
| Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is set to visit East Palestine today. | ||
| This is his first trip to the area since the derailment happened. | ||
| You would understand the inner workings of this better than anyone on the panel, that the president may make a visit, but in a case like this to East Palestine, he would send a cabinet official first, and perhaps Buttigieg should have been there sooner, but the president may well go there to Ohio as well. | ||
| Yeah, that's right, Willie. | ||
| I mean, typically there's an order of events, as you said here, and it may have been that it was too early for him to go before the trip, and there was a sequencing where certain Cabinet officials should go first. | ||
| There's no question it would have been a little bit easier for them optically if Secretary Buttigieg had gone a little bit earlier. | ||
| I believe the EPA Administrator's been there and, of course, FEMA. But what's also true, and in moments like this, it's a little bit of a case study as I was watching this all happen yesterday, of what the White House is going to do and how they're going to handle it when Trump attacks Biden. | ||
| Because they don't want to elevate Trump, right? | ||
| They don't even know for sure he'll be the nominee, even though I bet at this point he will be. | ||
| But what they did yesterday was kind of interesting because they didn't just ignore it. | ||
| They punched back substantively. | ||
| Which, that may not make a difference in the Ohio coverage of Trump's visit, but they basically made the case that the Trump administration, they pushed for deregulation that made it so that faster breaks were not in place. | ||
| And the Republicans in the House supported defunding cleanup. | ||
| So it is a substantive argument, which is sometimes harder to break through, but it was interesting to see that they didn't just sit back and let it happen, they punched back. | ||
| And we'll see how that kind of plays out as Trump does this more in the months ahead. | ||
| Obviously, Willie, there's a lot of work to do in East Palestine, and I think Trump's gesturing with his branding and his water aside. | ||
| The Transportation Secretary, Pete Buttigieg, did make it clear that he should have gone there sooner, and let's just put He should have gone there sooner and the White House should have done a better job even though they were in a major transatlantic moment dealing with the future of the safety of the world. | ||
| The people of East Palestine need to feel seen and heard and I think that Pete Buttigieg is taking it on board that he needs to go there and do that. | ||
| These are people who right now are very uncertain about their health and the future of their town and it is definitely a little bit of a bump for the White House to not make sure they shined a big light on what was happening there and hopefully in the weeks days and weeks to come they'll be able to do that because it's frightening for those people to see dead fish in the rivers and To not be able to run water. | ||
| I mean, whether the EPA testing is coming back clean or not. | ||
| I mean, I covered 9-11 and I covered the air after 9-11 and all the different things that happened down the road because of the air coming out of the pit. | ||
| You don't really know what's happening in East Palestine. | ||
| You don't really understand what's happening and you won't for a long time. | ||
| We won't for some time. | ||
| No. I mean, there's no question about it. | ||
| And these assurances, I probably feel a little bit hollow to the people who actually live there and have to send their children back into those houses and play in those yards and drink all that water. | ||
| Jonathan Lemire, Jen's right. | ||
| The EPA has been there. The EPA administrator's been there for several days on the ground. | ||
| But it sends a signal of the importance of it if you send someone like Secretary Buttigieg and perhaps the president down the road that, yes, we are focused on this and we will be here for the long haul. | ||
| Buttigieg going today now at last. | ||
| And they, as just noted, they're definitely acknowledged he should have been there sooner. | ||
| There's no presidential trip scheduled yet to Ohio. | ||
| That certainly could change whether the president or the vice president go in a week or two is certainly possible. | ||
| But I think that White House agents have signaled to me yesterday. | ||
| They recognized this is the storyline that's not going away, that there are going to be, to Mika's point, potentially ill health effects, not just in the weeks and months ahead, but maybe years ahead. | ||
| And that's going to be... Okay. | ||
| Okay, okay, I've heard enough. | ||
| I just want to deconstruct that for you. | ||
| All they're talking about, it's all total misdirection play. | ||
| Number one, Trump was the forcing function that forced all the action, right? | ||
| Along with coverage of, and people like J.D. Vance getting involved in coverage of so much of the citizen journalists that have been out there getting this done. | ||
| They're talking about guys going and people going and EPA director going. | ||
| This is all performance. | ||
| It's not about people going. | ||
| Trump was the forcing function. | ||
| And it's not about the misdirection plan and the derailment. | ||
| Yes, the derailment's an issue and that'll all be dealt with. | ||
| It is about, once again, the burn pits and it's about the controlled release and the uncontrolled burn and who authorized it. | ||
| And we know that the EPA was 14 or 15 or 16 or 20 days late in calling for a unified command, which by federal law, they have Joe Biden is responsible with this by federal law. | ||
| What happened in the tanks and the clearing of the tanks and the clearing of the track, that is the main thing. | ||
| Always remember, the main thing is the main thing. | ||
| And they were always trying to spin you with all this performative. | ||
| Well, he should have gone. That should have gone. | ||
| They should have gone. And Buttigieg, the story in Politico today, Has Buttigieg whining, you know, his team is whining, and he's saying, hey, I did 23 interviews and nobody asked me. | ||
| That's not your job, it's just responding to the softball mainstream media who's never going to ask you tough questions, dude. | ||
| He's whining around out there today. | ||
| We're going to get, hopefully, Savannah Hernandez is out there. | ||
| We've got Ed and Karen. John Fredericks is covering a hearing in Pennsylvania at the legislature. | ||
| It's Thursday, 23 February of the year of 2023, the eve of the first year. | ||
| Of the kickoff of the Third World War, yes, that would be the Ukraine War. | ||
| We're going to get into all of that. | ||
| We've got BRAT. We are packed for the next two hours. | ||
| But always keep... | ||
| Here we focus on the main thing, not side issues. | ||
| And they're trying to dance around who should have gone, what they should have done, what photo op we should have had. | ||
| No. We're going to get to the bottom of this, and I think criminal charges. | ||
| I want to bring in Charlie Burnham. | ||
| He's out there, and Charlie was recommended to us by Jeff Clark. | ||
| And Jeff's done such a great job on the legal aspects of this. | ||
| And Charlie, walk me through right now. | ||
| You've got a lot of people spinning stuff. | ||
| You've got a lot of people hand-waving. | ||
| The EPA administrator, as you see it, President Biden, the EPA administrator have exclusive bi-federal law. | ||
| Have exclusive authorization. | ||
| It's their responsibility. The buck stops with Biden. | ||
| He can deputize EPA, which he's done with an executive order. | ||
| But walk me through, who's responsible? | ||
| You see MSNBC, they're talking about trained derailments, and they're blaming this guy for showing, but EPA's been there for a couple days. | ||
| Walk me through what the reality is. | ||
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That's right. That is right. | |
| The ultimate responsibility rests with the federal government. | ||
| And you asked about You alluded a moment ago to the criminal possibilities here. | ||
| And I think those possibilities are very real. | ||
| Both the Clean Water Act and the Clean Air Act could potentially apply to this situation. | ||
| And an interesting thing about those two statutes is they have provisions to impose criminal liability, including prison time. | ||
| Based on a simple negligence standard. | ||
| Most criminal statutes require some kind of proof of intentional wrongdoing. | ||
| Environmental crimes aren't like that. | ||
| And so if the evidence should emerge, and there are several lawsuits that are making this exact allegation that Norfolk Southern or others were negligent in their handling of the wreck and its aftermath, criminal investigations and charges could be a real possibility. | ||
| But Charlie, we should assume that corporate actors are not going to act in the best interest of the community. | ||
| They're going to act in the best interest of shareholders. | ||
| And I know they maneuvered this and they've been called a bad actor and Shapiro now says they broke away from the unified command. | ||
| But isn't the primary line of responsibility? | ||
| And what we have to get to the bottom to is when Norfolk Southern notified, I think at 2353 or 2253 on that Friday night, The National Response Center. | ||
| By federal law, it's supposed to kick in. | ||
| You're supposed to have an on-scene commander. | ||
| We have EPA on the record at 2 o'clock in the morning the next day actually took responsibility for this. | ||
| Isn't it still the EPA? It's Reagan and up to Biden because they're in charge, not the local fire chief. | ||
| I mean, they're trying to throw everybody on the bus here. | ||
| And don't get me wrong. I'm the first one to say that, hey, we should impenal a criminal grand jury on the Norfolk Southern situation. | ||
| But I just want to make sure we're precise. | ||
| By federal law right now, it is the EPA and Joe Biden that are responsible for this and have been responsible since they were notified at the National Response Center on that Friday night, early Saturday morning on the 3rd of the 4th, correct? | ||
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Oh, for sure. Absolutely right. | |
| And there's good reasons why the responsibility should rest exactly with the federal government. | ||
| As you stated, private corporations have their own incentives. | ||
| That aren't necessarily aligned with the public welfare. | ||
| And as for the local fire chief, it defies not only law, but I think common sense that this decision would rest with him. | ||
| This is highly sophisticated equipment, highly dangerous chemicals that someone in his position is highly skilled, though he certainly is, would not have the proper training on to make that call. | ||
| The EPA is in the best position to do that, for sure. | ||
| Charlie, just hang here for one second. | ||
| I've got Ed Henry and Karen on. | ||
| Ed and Karen, you guys have been there for a couple of days. | ||
| Morning Joe is saying that what Trump did is all performative, right? | ||
| Just totally performative. | ||
| And it's just there to embarrass Biden. | ||
| Can we get your assessment? | ||
| We got about a minute and a half. | ||
| You guys just roll. But tell me, was it performative or was President Trump a forcing function for action? | ||
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It was real. It was action. | |
| It was leadership. Give me a break. | ||
| These guys who say this. | ||
| B.S. Come to East Palestine. | ||
| He, before he even got here, forced FEMA's hand and had them open up the checkbook. | ||
| This is a town of only 5,000 people, and you had probably a quarter of the town that came out to see this man come here because everybody else has abandoned them. | ||
| And we heard that over and over and again. | ||
| My kids are affected, my family is affected, we don't know what the long-term risks are, and nobody's helping us. | ||
| And here you're now criticizing the only person who showed up for the people of East Palestine because you don't like him. | ||
| This is the site of two things. | ||
| There's a creek behind us and they are shooting the water out, putting it through a filter so that hopefully it will be cleaned from the chemicals that the Biden administration has ignored. | ||
| Where's AOC and all the environmental eco-terrorists out there who want to talk about it? | ||
| They're not here. But my point is it's a site of two things. | ||
| Of the creek where they're trying to clean it up and maybe the place, the spot where Donald Trump was standing right here yesterday where he may have saved his 2024 campaign, showed leadership, and what did he do? | ||
| He went back to 1516. | ||
| The forgotten man and woman. | ||
| This is Trump country. | ||
| Men and women had come on our morning show for the last two days and said, nobody in Washington gives a damn about us. | ||
| Where have we heard that before? | ||
| 1516. The Democrats, the rhinos like McConnell, they don't care about these people. | ||
| Donald Trump does. | ||
| Ed Henry and Karen Turk right after the break from East Palestine, Ohio. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Mayor Pete, why did it take you an entire two and a half weeks to actually get here to respond to East Palestine? | ||
| Will you apologize to the residents of this city for the slow response, to the government's slow response? | ||
| Do you have any apologies? I'm a press person, I can help you. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. So can we ask why it took him almost three weeks to get here? | ||
| I'm sorry, I don't want to do this on camera. | ||
| What was his personal time off while there was a tragedy happening here? | ||
| He also asked too why he waited until President Donald Trump came here to actually make an appearance. | ||
| This is a very important question that people across America would like to know. | ||
| I'm happy to have a conversation with you. | ||
| I do not want to be on camera. Please put your cameras away. | ||
| I'm sorry, we're on a public area, so we are allowed as press. | ||
| You guys, I would like you guys to turn your cameras off. | ||
| That's the intrepid Savannah Hernandez. | ||
| She's been working with Ben Berquam. | ||
| That's pure Ben Berquam right there. | ||
| Savannah, great job. Savannah is out now trying to track him down. | ||
| Ed and Karen. Here's what I don't understand. | ||
| Why is Savannah Hernandez harassing Pete Buttigieg? | ||
| Wasn't he on the way to morning sunrise? | ||
| He was going to be the main guest on your show this morning, correct? | ||
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He never made it. He never showed up, just like the Biden administration left the people here abandoned and didn't show up. | |
| You know, it took Donald Trump to get him to show up. | ||
| You know, Steve, you know, I covered a lot of White Houses. | ||
| A Democrat, Republican, where there's a hurricane down in Florida, they'd run down there and help people show they care. | ||
| I never thought I'd beat an American president to a natural disaster. | ||
| And that's what Karen and I did. | ||
| And Savannah and other people that have had the guts to actually come here. | ||
| A lot of the mainstream media has not been here. | ||
| They've maybe done a quick drive-by and not talked to real people. | ||
| I want to make another important point, which is someone who did come on American Sunrise a couple days ago, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer. | ||
| You know him well. He made a point a couple days ago that Ronald Reagan scared the Soviets when he fired the air traffic controllers. | ||
| When he showed strength on the domestic side, then they were scared, then they were forced to the table. | ||
| Jimmy Carter, right? | ||
| Why were the Iranians moving in on the embassy? | ||
| Because they smelled weakness from this man. | ||
| And I think the same is happening. | ||
| Our friend Harry, our producer, sent us this note right before it came on with you, and you might have already mentioned it. | ||
| U.S. sending up to 200 more troops. | ||
| I think Fox has a story. | ||
| 200 more troops to Taiwan as China tensions grow. | ||
| If you listen to Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer in the same principle... | ||
| The Chinese, the Russians, they're watching Biden's disaster on the domestic front. | ||
| Not helping his own people in Ohio. | ||
| Being embarrassed and shamed into sending Mayor Pete by one Donald J. Trump. | ||
| And now the Chinese, tensions are growing in Taiwan and other places. | ||
| Because none of these leaders fear Biden. | ||
| They all see with their own eyes what the mainstream media is blind to or looks the other way on, Karen, which is that he's weak not just on the world stage. | ||
| Biden's not even showing up for these forgotten men and women. | ||
| And so the Chinese and Russians are going to do whatever the hell they want. | ||
| We still don't have answers about COVID, speaking of Chinese, and we still don't have answers about the derailments and what's being caused, and the Democrats are already shifting the narrative, trying to blame Donald Trump yet again, saying that deregulation is somehow at fault for these horrible accidents that now, you know, are inspiring this cleanup. | ||
| But would there be this cleanup if Donald Trump wasn't coming to town? | ||
| Talk about theatrics. He forced their hand. | ||
| He forced their hand. | ||
| I'm not saying these people aren't doing a good job. | ||
| They're blowing the water out of one side to the other to clean it. | ||
| They weren't doing that before Trump was... | ||
| No. That's the question I've got. | ||
| You see a lot of activity now. | ||
| CNN's got guys. They're all in creeks. | ||
| Everybody's doing everything. You've got air quality people running around. | ||
| You know, Josh Shapiro comes and DeWine comes on Monday and they're like in people's houses serving tea and scrubbing down the stove. | ||
| None of that happened. This town had been abandoned until Trump announced he was coming and then the action of him coming. | ||
| Now it's all hands on deck, correct? | ||
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That's right. It seems that way. | |
| And I just think the people of this town deserve questions. | ||
| They deserve to know what are they doing to the water that they're pumping back here. | ||
| You know, a lot of these chemicals, when you start to do just even a little research on them, aren't removed in very traditional ways. | ||
| And is this going to be enough? And what's the impact on their children and their children's children? | ||
| And this town for years and decades to come, nobody knows. | ||
| Don't get the credit. They were not all hands on deck. | ||
| You're right. FEMA wasn't writing checks. | ||
| They were telling people, go to a hotel if you want to leave your house. | ||
| We might reimburse you. | ||
| Keep the receipt. It's bunk. | ||
| Hats off to Donald Trump, but also hats off to Senator J.D. Vance. | ||
| He took some time to talk to us yesterday. | ||
| What he said, Steve, is we've been talking to real Americans here who their kids have rashes. | ||
| Their pets have been getting sick. | ||
| Some pets have been dying. Thankfully, we haven't heard about the loss of human life. | ||
| But what J.D. Vance made the point was, he said, look, Ed, it's not that people are picking up some tap water and dropping dead, thankfully. | ||
| It's what's going to happen six months from now. | ||
| What happened, Steve? | ||
| Two years from now, because of the neglect from Biden, DeWine, and others, it's the long-term impact. | ||
| It's like the 9-11 first responders who went to go to the pile at ground zero, help their fellow Americans, and then they wind up with cancer. | ||
| They wind up with these post-9-11 diseases that, again, the government denied and wouldn't listen to them about, and then they dropped dead. | ||
| It's a great comparison. | ||
| And a lot of the real Americans here were talking about, they were laying tracks. | ||
| The train company came and laid tracks before they cleaned up the soil underneath. | ||
| So what's going to happen to that soil now? | ||
| It's just going to sit there and permeate the water supply? | ||
| And who cares about the people on the ground? | ||
| And we've already seen there's lawyers running around more than the federal government is. | ||
| We met one of the lawyers yesterday. | ||
| She had a clipboard to get information. | ||
| Now, on one hand, she might be helping some of these people. | ||
| On the other hand, you know what the trial lawyers do. | ||
| They're going to come in here and file lawsuits, right? | ||
| They want to make money off of these people. | ||
| More litigation, right? But I've seen more lawyers here than I've seen Biden officials. | ||
| How about that? Last thing, I know you guys got to bounce, but just put us in the room. | ||
| What is the feel of, when you see the creeks, when you have the smell out there, when you see the houses, what's the general feel of the place? | ||
| Is the feel that, hey, we got a serious ecological problem and we're going to need serious people here for the long term because this is not a train derailment. | ||
| This is a massive ecological problem. | ||
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Yeah, you check into your hotel and there's a sign that says, make sure you take some of this water that's bottled water that's on the ground here, because it's not just about drinking it. | |
| Don't even brush your teeth. | ||
| We don't know what's in it. | ||
| We don't know what's not in it. | ||
| And you see these families. Yesterday was a day of renewed hope, not just because Donald Trump came here, but because they realized they were all in it together. | ||
| And I think people came together and started talking about the problems that they're having and felt like they weren't alone. | ||
| You know, sometimes in tragedy, tragedy brings people together. | ||
| I mean, that's the only hope you can have for this community right now. | ||
| To Karen's point, to take you inside the room to answer your question, I talked to a guy who lived right across the street here, was waiting hours for Trump in the rain. | ||
| And I said, why are you happy about Trump being here? | ||
| And he said, it's one simple reason. | ||
| He's shining a light in a way that Biden ignored us. | ||
| Trump is bringing you and other people here, and we're shining a light, and I hope we get the help. | ||
| But to take you inside that room... | ||
| The day after, there's a lot less people on the road over here. | ||
| There's a lot less media here. | ||
| Trump's gone. Biden never came, right? | ||
| So the question is, yeah, Trump's shined the light. | ||
| But he's not in office right now. | ||
| He might be in two years. | ||
| But the administration that's in power right now, there's a couple workers over there. | ||
| Shined the light. Trump succeeded yesterday. | ||
| But is there going to be any follow through from Biden? | ||
| They're impotent. You know that, Steve. | ||
| You talk about it every day. By the way, Real America's voice coverage has been phenomenal. | ||
| You've got the top producer in the country, Harry Oates, out there with you. | ||
| Harry, coming off the beach after a long vacation, is hitting on all cylinders. | ||
| Your show's been amazing. | ||
| He got more attention than I did. I was a little upset. | ||
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People pushed me out of the way to get a picture with Harry. | |
| They got a picture with Harry. This is actually a true story, Steve. | ||
| This is a true story. | ||
| Get us on Rumble. | ||
| Harry's a star. We're all over. | ||
| So we're on Getterin. | ||
| He is a star. Our name's on Getterin2Social, Ed and Karen. | ||
| And then I've got something on Rumble now. | ||
| I want you to follow us. I'm going to have a little scoop for you next week. | ||
| Go to Rumble. Mailman Media Delivers. | ||
| That's my account. And we're going to have a video next week that you're going to love. | ||
| Promise, Steve. I'll see you at CPAC. Perfect. | ||
| Ed and Karen, fantastic job. | ||
| Great coverage. Rob and Parker Sig, incredible. | ||
| Harry, incredible. Just amazing. | ||
| Thank you guys very much. Great job. | ||
| American Sunrise. Appreciate it. | ||
| The morning show that's out there. | ||
| Thanks, guys. We've got them stacked up over an airport. | ||
| We're going to get them all. Do we have John Fredericks? | ||
| There's a hearing going on in Pennsylvania. | ||
| John, tell me about this hearing. | ||
| Are we getting to the bottom of what happened here, sir? | ||
| Well, you're live in the hearing now. | ||
| If you can see me on camera, we're at Community College of Beaver County. | ||
| This is in Menaca, Pennsylvania, about 21 miles outside of the border of Ohio, 22 miles from actually East Palestine. | ||
| This hearing is the first really serious hearing being put on by anybody. | ||
| It's led by a chairman of the Veteran Affairs and Emergency Preparedness Committee. | ||
| This is a Pennsylvania Senate hearing. | ||
| led by Chairman Doug Mastriano who's got a quorum here of bipartisan senators attendees about 300 people in the audience Steve some of these residents and what Mastriano said at the beginning of the Of this on a radio show, he said, look, I'm from Missouri. | ||
| If you're saying it's safe, prove it to me. | ||
| I want to get the evidence. He's got a bevy of witnesses. | ||
| One of them who was on our show earlier today, Sarah Kuntz, who came onto the show on camera, her face covered in welts. | ||
| And she lives in a little town just outside here of Manaka, about seven miles away. | ||
| from East Palestine. | ||
| And she said that she can't stay in her home, that she gets up every day with her body is full of welts. | ||
| She can't breathe. | ||
| She can't sleep. Also, we had Doug Mastriano on and his chief of staff, Dan Cox, that ran for governor in Maryland, both of them saying, They went to East Palestine two days ago. | ||
| They spent about five hours there. | ||
| They got in the car. | ||
| They had a splitting headache. They had a migraine. | ||
| Cox told me he had shortness of breath. | ||
| He had pain in his lungs. | ||
| And he's saying they're going around telling you it's fine. | ||
| I'm here five hours and I'm about to fall over. | ||
| So there's a litany of residents here. | ||
| And what Mastriano is calling this is a little Chernobyl. | ||
| And he's saying that the victims that he has now in this hearing today have all been injured by what is going on. | ||
| It's only been a few weeks. Of course, what the authorities are saying is everything is fine, but of course nobody will come here. | ||
| He also wants to get to the bottom of a very simple question, Steve, in these hearings. | ||
| Who made the decision for the controlled burn? | ||
| He's trying to get to the bottom of that. | ||
| I'll be reporting back throughout it. | ||
| We're going to pull you. Jump back in there, John. | ||
| We'll get you later in the hour and then in the next hour. | ||
| John Frederick's live from the hearing in Pennsylvania, the Pennsylvania State Senate, to get to the bottom of its short break. | ||
| We're all the tale of two cities, the war in Ukraine and the war in East Palestine, Ohio, next in the War Room. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| John Fredericks is going back in the hearing again, back at the top of the hour. | ||
| We've got a lot on Ukraine. There's so much happening in the Third World War, we're going to get to momentarily. | ||
| Dave Brat is with me, also have some issues with the American economy. | ||
| We're going to get to that. I want to bring in George. | ||
| Negron from EnviroCleanse. | ||
| George, now more than ever, I thank you so much for pulling yourself out of your work and coming on today, but I've got to have people go to your site and find out about this air purifier because, quite frankly, you're going to find out you can't trust anything the EPA can't trust, anything these guys are telling you. | ||
| Just one after years of hammering, he won this burn pit situation for the veterans. | ||
| People had been overseas, and it was years afterwards they found out what the issues were. | ||
| That's what's going to happen in East Palestine. | ||
| But now more than ever, you have to take responsibility for yourself. | ||
| You can't think the government's going to help you. | ||
| Walk me through, and the reason I love you guys is that you're not just DOD approved, you're on Navy ships, which I was in charge. | ||
| One of my many collateral duties was air quality, like it didn't have enough to do, but air quality is so important. | ||
| It's one of the top priorities. | ||
| Walk us through. Walk us through EnviroCleanse. | ||
| Walk us through your product, and how do people get more information to see if they need it? | ||
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Absolutely. So, first and foremost, they can find us on ekpure.com. | |
| Use the coupon STEVE, and that's going to get you the air quality monitor and a discount today as well for folks at the show. | ||
| Why do folks need us? | ||
| This technology itself was originally designed and used for destruction of chemical warfare agents and biological. | ||
| So, Department of Defense and foreign militaries are using it constantly to eradicate chemicals as they come in high exposures and biological. | ||
| Now, unfortunately, residents need this, right? | ||
| So, we're facing many types of chemicals, both man-made and environmental, and the technology is designed to break those down safely, remediate them, and protect the home. | ||
| So, unfortunately, those in East Palestine and over a 100-mile radius, we're hearing complaints or we're hearing stories of folks that are feeling the effects of it. | ||
| And now that the cleanup starts, a lot of these things will become more unearthed, Steve, as you know. | ||
| So, it's a good opportunity for them to get an air purification system It's validated for this application. | ||
| It's going to break down these chemicals made here in the US and by a company that cares. | ||
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| You'll find the studies, the technology reports, everything from A to Z, full transparency on how we can help. | ||
| George, one more time. | ||
| I want people to go and get all the information, because these are important decisions, but right now you've got to be self-reliant. | ||
| Where do people go to get the information about the product? | ||
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Absolutely. So ekpure.com. | |
| On that page, you'll find all the information. | ||
| With your purchase today, we're going to send an air quality monitor. | ||
| What that's going to allow you to do is measure the air in your home, see where you stand, and see the results of the system. | ||
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| There's plenty of technical and testing reports. | ||
| And for those that take action and purchase, use the coupon code STEVE, and we're happy to provide an additional discount as well. | ||
| George, thank you very much. | ||
| Thanks for taking time away from the day to do this. | ||
| Thank you. When you're at the quality that you're trying to purify the air of the chemical and biological attacks on Navy combatants, let me go back to Charlie Burnham. | ||
| Charlie, we're going to go back to John Fredericks at the top of the hour in this hearing in Pennsylvania. | ||
| What advice would you have? | ||
| Because Shapiro's kind of been dancing around. | ||
| At first he said he came out with a press thing. | ||
| He thanked Norfolk Southern For doing the controlled burn, he was all happy. | ||
| Then when War Room and others started putting pressure on him, all of a sudden he's down there. | ||
| He said he's sending a criminal complaint to his attorney general. | ||
| Walk me through Shapiro's involvement in this, and what would be your recommendation if you were testifying in front of Senator Doug Mastriani's committee today? | ||
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So a couple things, Stephen. | |
| I noticed the same thing you did, that the attorney general's public statements early on were markedly different from what he said recently, most notably the criminal referral. | ||
| And he wasn't real specific about what criminal laws he has in mind, but he did say something interesting, which was that in his mind he received false and misleading information from the railroad, which is a significant thing. | ||
| You don't want to read too much into this, but it could be that the difference between the Attorney General's statements over time is because he learned something that He thought was satisfying about the need for the controlled burn or other things, you know, a couple weeks ago and later on received other information that changed his mind. | ||
| I don't know, but that seems to be one explanation for the way that's all unfolded. | ||
| And of course, if it did turn out that the railroad was misleading to government officials in the initial response, that opens up whole new avenues for investigation at the state and the federal level. | ||
| So that's one thing. The second thing I'd be really... Go ahead. | ||
| No, no, go ahead. Continue on. | ||
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The second thing is, and this is something you alluded to earlier, is I would want to know if I was Senator Mestriano or the Attorney General, was the controlled burn really necessary? | |
| Sometimes the way this has been presented is the choices are either giant explosion with flames or controlled burn, and some of the lawsuits that have been filed, some of them were thorough, Some complaints suggest that there was a third, perhaps more expensive possibility that would have averted either of those things. | ||
| Now, obviously, this gets very technical very quickly, and I don't know the answer to that. | ||
| But if I was Senator Mastriano or the Attorney General or a resident of East Palestine, that's what I want to know. | ||
| This is why Jeff Clarkson had to get you on. | ||
| You've gone to the main thing. Here's the point. | ||
| And what Shapiro said upon further review, they were not part of the command. | ||
| They went rogue. | ||
| They went independent. | ||
| It doesn't matter what Norfolk Southern put up as far as modeling, even if they did. | ||
| Once again, it is the federal government's response. | ||
| This is not just a trained derailment. | ||
| This is a toxic waste site. | ||
| That goes to a whole different element. | ||
| It is the EPA. Is the on-scene commander. | ||
| They are by federal statute responsible. | ||
| There's a whole process this goes to. | ||
| This is what you're paying $6 trillion a year for, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is where it kicks in. It goes to Biden. | ||
| He's deputized EPA through an executive order, but the buck stops with him. | ||
| And so when Josh Shapiro and DeWine start going and they're telling CNN, oh, they misled us, well, hey, you have to assume they're just one piece of information. | ||
| It could be right. | ||
| It could be wrong. | ||
| But that's – the federal government and the EPA is the one that's got to look at all the alternatives and look at all the modeling and see what happens. | ||
| And you've hit the main thing. Why did they even have a controlled release? | ||
| Because they wanted to get the tankers off that track. | ||
| Why did they have a controlled release? | ||
| Who authorized the controlled release? | ||
| Because they just put it in a ditch. | ||
| That's what ran into the creek. | ||
| And then an uncontrolled burn, because it's not a controlled burn. | ||
| A controlled burn would be an incinerator. | ||
| Take it somewhere and actually control it. | ||
| Who made these decisions? | ||
| That's the beating heart of both the civil suits and really the criminal endangerment of the citizens, not just of East Palestine. | ||
| You've got a woman with welts all over her in Pennsylvania. | ||
| She lives on the Pennsylvania side seven miles away, but you have the whole east coast of the United States. | ||
| Is that the beating heart of the issue? | ||
| Who had authority and responsibility? | ||
| Who had the ability to make a decision? | ||
| And how was that decision made? | ||
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Charlie Burnham? I think that's absolutely the crucial question. | |
| And it's something that was striking to me is not being a direct participant in this but researching it as thoroughly as I could. | ||
| It's not publicly been released in clear terms that I could find. | ||
| I could be corrected. Who made that decision? | ||
| Certain people agreed with it. | ||
| Certain people were consulted, but there's not an answer to who gave the thumbs up or the thumbs down. | ||
| And the question I'd be asking if I was a resident of East Palestine is, would this have been the same response if there had been a similar environmental disaster in a wealthy city or in a different part of the country? | ||
| And I think that's a fair question, and I think it deserves to be answered. | ||
| Charlie, you're saying that if this had happened in East Hamptons or South Hampton or in Holmby Hills or somewhere like that, it might have been handled a little differently. | ||
| And you're 100 % correct. | ||
| We have done all the research on this. | ||
| Nobody has actually admitted exactly what the chain of command was. | ||
| They keep saying the authorities, and it was the fire chief, or it was Norfolk Southern, and they got to pay, but you can't find it. | ||
| Charlie, do you have social media? | ||
| I know you're a lawyer that's now on top of this case, but do you have social media people can follow you? | ||
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I'm on Twitter, at CBurnumESQ on Twitter. | |
| Okay, Charlie, we're going to make you famous. | ||
| We'll make sure you get a bunch of followers today because everybody's going to want to know if this is incredibly important. | ||
| I really thank you for coming on today, Charlie. | ||
| We look forward to having you back on. | ||
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Thanks very much for having me. | |
| It was a pleasure to be here. Thanks, brother. | ||
| We've got to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| Got to get to the bottom of this. And you can see all kind of spin about derailment and about this and about that and brakes and Trump and he didn't go to any railroad derailments. | ||
| That's not the point. It's not the point. | ||
| You had a major ecological problem here, a toxic hazardous materials. | ||
| And there's a procedure and a process to be handled. | ||
| This is the same thing. This is endemic in the Biden administration. | ||
| Remember the spinning around about the shooting down UFOs and all this? | ||
| They want to get off the fact that they knew the spy balloon left Hanan Island right off mainland China. | ||
| On 20 January, and the CCP knows that. | ||
| That's why the CCP has no respect for these people whatsoever. | ||
| They understand the calto. And Ed Henry, Tony Schaefer, Colonel Tony Schaefer's analysis on Ed Henry and Karen Turk's show the other day about the air traffic control is absolutely correct. | ||
| The KGB and these guys, look at how you handle domestic problems. | ||
| One thing I know right now with Biden... | ||
| He has very little domestic support. | ||
| He's looked at it as feckless and weak. | ||
| It's one of the reasons he's delayed this announcement on his presidency until, quote-unquote, sometime in April. | ||
| Not coming right out of the box. | ||
| I also think that's tied to the grand juries and what they're trying to cook up there. | ||
| But we'll get to more of that later. | ||
| I want to get Dave Brett. Dave, I know you've got a lot of stuff to say on China. | ||
| You want to talk about debt. | ||
| We want to talk about the Third World War. | ||
| But I've got to get your thoughts right now. | ||
| Give me your thoughts on East Palestine, the forgotten man, Trump's involvement in the Biden regime's Well, I just want to compliment you yesterday on the story with the Catholics going door to door, handing out cash and getting hugs. | ||
| This is the perfect tale of two cities, right? | ||
| These folks have been left behind. | ||
| They're God-fearing, hardworking people. | ||
| They deserve our respect, attention. | ||
| And I'm going to go into the debt story. | ||
| And the debt story actually covers it. | ||
| You just mentioned we're spending $6 trillion a year for government spending to support these people, supposedly. | ||
| But none of it's showing up to the people. | ||
| It's all showing up in the stock market gains for the super-wealthy. | ||
| I think everybody's starting to know this now, but everybody needs to share this. | ||
| And so my heart goes out to the folks, and I think we're going to get it right in spite of the government, because the American people are just decent, good people, and we know how to take care of each other. | ||
| Before we're going to take a break and come back, I want to get into all the debt, but you were in the House. | ||
| How quickly, I mean McCarthy and these guys seem a little slow off the mark on some of these things. | ||
| I understand they're getting all these investigations ready, but shouldn't Monday when they're back, they ought to have the CEO of Norfolk Southern, they ought to have Mike DeWine, they ought to have Josh Shapiro, they ought to have the EPA head, Mike Regan, Buttigieg. | ||
| Shouldn't they all be in front of a congressional hearing on Monday, sir, in the House? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I just follow the golden rule. | ||
| It's not even necessarily political, but can you imagine what would happen with President Trump in office and a Republican governor in a high-wealth city and an environmental catastrophe? | ||
| It kind of reflects the moral decency of our side sometimes that we just don't politicize everything. | ||
| But this thing is a disaster because human lives are at stake and human wealth and health and their welfare is at stake. | ||
| So yes, we ought to just be flooding the zone right now on behalf of the people, not just politics. | ||
| But yeah, the House needs to get its act together in some urgency. | ||
| And I'm going to say some things to get my own team. | ||
| I'm going to put a little fire on them on this debt issue. | ||
| Anybody that keeps voting for these continued $2 trillion deficits is going to find some competition coming up, I hope. | ||
| Okay, okay. We're going to take a short break. | ||
| We are packed wall to wall, but we're going to get it all done. | ||
| We're going to talk about the economy, capital markets, debt, the war in Ukraine. | ||
| We're going to go back to the hearing in Pennsylvania. | ||
| We're going to go back to East Palestine, Ohio. | ||
| We got it all. It's the tale of the two cities and the beginning of the Third World War. | ||
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| Captain Bannon and Grace Chung and Jane Zirkle. | ||
| So make sure you download Getter. | ||
| It's the easiest technology to use and the best. | ||
| We're on it all the time. | ||
| I'm putting up stuff nonstop. | ||
| Also, CPAC, CPAC.org slash War Room. | ||
| We're turning out a huge amount of War Room Posse members going to be there. | ||
| It's going to be live for four days. | ||
| You're going to get to see all the big hitters. | ||
| Also, you're going to be a live part of the show in the audience. | ||
| That's going to be spectacular. | ||
| It's what we did in Phoenix at Turning Point and what we did in Dallas at CPAC Dallas. | ||
| And the feedback we got was great. | ||
| The energy we're looking forward to seeing everybody. | ||
| So make sure you're there. | ||
| Also, Saturday at 6 p.m. | ||
| in Oklahoma City, the Oklahoma County GOP, I'm going to give the speech or the talk. | ||
| For the Lincoln Reagan Dinner, it's at the Cowboy Hall of Fame or the Museum of Western Heritage and Cowboys in Oklahoma City. | ||
| We're going to get up. | ||
| Grace and Mo put it out. Tickets are still available. | ||
| I want to see everybody in the area that's there. | ||
| Tons of grassroots folks. | ||
| The precinct strategy, get to meet everybody and hang out at this great, quite frankly, a sacred place of our Western heritage and tradition of the American West. | ||
| Just incredible. So honored to be out there. | ||
| Let's go to Dave Brat. | ||
| Now, Dave, here's the thing. | ||
| The New York Times reported this front page, so the Times takes it importantly. | ||
| The CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, which are not people who normally have their hair on fire, said on the current plan of the Biden regime, there's a $1.4 trillion deficit this year, we called it. | ||
| $2 trillion after that in perpetuity. | ||
| They cut it at 10 years. | ||
| In 10 years, we had $19 trillion, or over $50 trillion, just on the balance sheet of the Treasury, not even including the Federal Reserve. | ||
| It's not sustainable. | ||
| It's not close to being sustainable. | ||
| You're spending trillions of dollars in just interest payments. | ||
| The whole system will collapse. | ||
| If you follow this, If you follow this, and this is why the Times put it on the front page and they put it on the far right, that's basically the lead story, is that this is not sustainable. | ||
| Now, here's what's got me concerned. | ||
| You've got Russ Vogt with his balanced budget. | ||
| I'll be honest. We're spending a ton of time, as you are, behind the scenes, talking to people, working with people. | ||
| I'm not feeling the heat, brother. | ||
| This is not going to be easy. | ||
| We're in a situation that all the easy choices were literally decades ago. | ||
| When you've got these wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and by the way, Iraq just announced yesterday, guess what? | ||
| They're doing a big output deal with China, and they're going to convert it all into R&B, not into dollars. | ||
| So our good buddies, our allies, the country we freed for, what is it, $7 trillion in all those American lives? | ||
| Backstabbing us right there. It's all coming apart. | ||
| We don't have anybody standing with us unless we're writing checks. | ||
| They're a protector. They're a vassal state. | ||
| They'll stand with you if you write a check. | ||
| If you write a check, they're your buddy. | ||
| Don't write a check. They don't know who you are. | ||
| That's the way the world is. | ||
| If you want a friend, buy a dog. | ||
| Brat, I'm not feeling it from the Republican right that we've got to stop this nonsense. | ||
| I'm feeling that we're going to be performative, sir, and we're beyond performative. | ||
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Dave Brat. Yeah, thanks, Steve. | |
| Your gut is usually right. | ||
| In this case, it's spot on. | ||
| And we're not feeling the heat. | ||
| That's why I wanted to come on. | ||
| This was a story a week ago with the CBO numbers. | ||
| And since then, it's passed, right? | ||
| And so our conservative friends out there are on every issue under the sun. | ||
| And that's important. | ||
| But I'm an economist, so maybe I'm biased this way. | ||
| But if you end this one, this assault on the American pocketbook and dinner table, you'll end the others. | ||
| You might get a judiciary that's not insane. | ||
| You might not be in never-ending wars. | ||
| You don't have never-ending EPA spending, transportation spending, education spending, without getting any results. | ||
| And so everybody, this is the issue to get with your congressman and woman. | ||
| And if they go along, right, as Steve just said, the CBO result on net is we're going to have $2 trillion deficits from here ongoing. | ||
| If your representative votes for that, it doesn't matter what party they're in, they got to take a permanent leave from the city, from the swamp. | ||
| And so I just want to go over some of the charts because sometimes the messaging, right, the Current administration is saying the deficit's down. | ||
| Well, yeah, it's down because in 2020, the deficit was $3 trillion, and now it's $1.4 trillion on its way back up to $2 trillion. | ||
| It's true it went down, but it's very misleading. | ||
| Let's just start with the first chart, which just shows the Trump budget baseline numbers versus the Biden baseline numbers. | ||
| If you just would have stayed with a status quo Trump budget trajectory, the orange lines, there'd be a $10 trillion difference by 2033. | ||
| That's the time period we're talking about. | ||
| When the current administration says they're cutting spending, et cetera, you can torture the numbers all you want, but this chart is real. | ||
| The source is CBO. Steve posted this the other day, and so I'm borrowing it from Steve Moore. | ||
| But the next chart, we'll just dig into some of the numbers that'll help give you the confidence to make the argument. | ||
| So right now, we're at 2023, right where the dotted line projected is. | ||
| Right now, our debt is 100 % of GDP. Steve's pointed out Rogoff and And some scholars that in the past, that would have put you at Latin American debt levels where the siren starts going off. | ||
| Now, none of these charts are here on fire. | ||
| This is CBO, the most boring people. | ||
| The numbers are going to be way worse than this. | ||
| I'm just giving you stable numbers. | ||
| It's all at Bratt Economics, so you can share them. | ||
| But look at the far right, 2053 debt. | ||
| Our debt in the United States of America is going to be 200 % of GDP, right? | ||
| So our GDP right now is about $25 trillion. | ||
| That's everything we make in a year, goods, services, everything. | ||
| The debt's going to be twice that In 2053, that is unsustainable. | ||
| The left is hair on fire about, you know... | ||
| Yeah, yeah. Go ahead, Steve. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| It's a 90-second break. We'll come back. | ||
| I think what makes it even worse, I think that's... | ||
| I don't think that's total debt. | ||
| I think that's debt we hold. | ||
| That's right. I think that's debt... | ||
| Hang on. This is the old... | ||
| Okay, this is the old okey-doke. | ||
| This is the old okey-doke. | ||
| That is just debt we hold. | ||
| That ain't the debt that the CCP and the Japanese insurance companies we had to sell. | ||
| That's just debt we hold. That shows you how bad it is. | ||
| The total debt is many times the economy. | ||
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Okay, short break, short break, short break. | |
| We got Brat. We're going to be packed in the next hour. |
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