Jan. 2, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Seven minutes past the top of the hour, just one day before the new Congress is seated, Kevin McCarthy still appears to be well short of the votes needed to become the next House Speaker. | ||
| In a new letter obtained by NBC News, nine House Republicans write, the current minority leader has not done enough to win their support. | ||
| Even after he made a key concession to them last week. | ||
| The letter reads in part, quote, despite some progress achieved, Mr. McCarthy's statement comes almost impossibly late to address the continued deficiencies ahead of the opening of the 118th Congress. | ||
| Thus far, there continue to be missing specific commitments with respect to virtually every component of our entreaties and thus no means to measure whether promises are kept. | ||
| Or broken. | ||
| In a note to his Republican colleagues last week, McCarthy agreed to lower the threshold for forcing a vote to oust the Speaker. | ||
| Making matters more difficult to him, the group of nine lawmakers who penned the new letter does not include five other House Republicans who have firmly voiced their opposition to McCarthy's Speakership bid. | ||
| In total, McCarthy can only afford to lose just four Republican votes and still be elected Speaker. | ||
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| Monday, 2 January, in the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| I want to thank you for tuning in this morning, the kickoff of the new year, and thank Real America's Voice to make sure we're live this morning. | ||
| Pretty historic things going on. | ||
| We're going to get into all of this. | ||
| Motion to vacate the chair, the McCarthy speakership hanging by a thread. | ||
| He's out trying to cut every deal. | ||
| I can report now that he's already caved. | ||
| He's down to saying one member, any member. | ||
| Right now, The deal-making is unbelievable. | ||
| The five hard-nosed, we're going to have Andy Biggs, who's actually put his head in the ring, is running, is really, I guess, the head of the hard-nosed, is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. | ||
| And the nine, and this audience should be ecstatic, you've got really Eli Crane from Arizona, Ana Paulina Luna from Florida, are kind of some of the ringleaders of that, and Andy Oogles. | ||
| won that special election and the permanent seat out in Tennessee. | ||
| They're all just gonna get sworn in. | ||
| I mean, they're congressman elect. | ||
| So the nine, add the five, you're at 14. | ||
| Like I've been saying on Getter all weekend, he's closer to 200 than he is to 218. | ||
| But the deal making continues on. | ||
| We're going to cover all that also in the second hour. | ||
| The RNC is blowing up this whole race. | ||
| Remember, these are inextricably linked. | ||
| We always start the new year, though, by taking a bigger picture, at least in the kickoff. | ||
| Today, we're swamped with breaking news that is signal, not noise. | ||
| So we're going to get to a lot of that, but I had to go Reach out to General Mike Flynn. | ||
| General Flynn wrote an incredible piece over the weekend for the Western Journal, for Floyd Brown's Western Journal. | ||
| General Flynn, thank you for joining us. | ||
| Happy New Year. | ||
| Sir, here's what I love about your piece. | ||
| It's not like, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, let's make a New Year's resolution, ban and lose some weight. | ||
| Mike Flynn's going to run some more, getting even better shape than he's already in. | ||
| The shape he's in is like a 19-year-old kid. | ||
| This is pretty up in your grill. | ||
| Hey, it's going to be a tough year. | ||
| Let's get ready. | ||
| Mike Flynn. | ||
| Yeah, and you know, in the Army, Steve, we would say embrace the suck, right? | ||
| I mean, it's one of these things where everybody's going around, Happy New Year, and I got all that. | ||
| But I want people to be laser-focused going into 2023 here, and so I appreciate you allowing me to start on your show with this particular message, and I would appreciate you posting that article. | ||
| It's already gotten wide, wide readership, but the best The biggest idea, the best idea, is the idea of America, where we can exercise our freedoms in a representative government. | ||
| And one of the things that I've been harping on over the last year hard is this idea of local action equals national impact. | ||
| And it's what one of the things that you say in your opening is, you know, it's you've got to decide what you're going to do, folks. | ||
| You've got to decide to get involved in your communities like you've never done that before. | ||
| There's no more there's no more happy talk. | ||
| We're getting ready this week alone with You know, with the House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House, the potential for the RNC change out, we're looking at, and you know, and I'm paying very close attention to this World Economic Forum that kicks off, I think, on the 15th or 16th of this month. | ||
| They're going to be going for about a week, and they're going to put stamps about public-private, you know, partnerships with our government, everything going on in Ukraine. | ||
| I mean, there's so much happening. | ||
| I want people to embrace this transition that is happening in America and basically get out and put yourself in a different way into your communities. | ||
| And that's my big message. | ||
| You and I have talked about this before. | ||
| Personally, I've gotten involved at a very, very local level in my own community. | ||
| But what we see across this country is we see moms, particularly moms, but even dads out there getting more involved in their children's schooling. | ||
| We see things like the explosion of homeschooling across the country, which I think that that's a fine thing. | ||
| If people If people can't get what they need out of the public school system, which is a horrendous system, then embrace that and bring it back to your own ability to be able to teach your own kids. | ||
| But those kinds of commitments, the kinds of commitments of these local groups that are now stepping up and speaking up, and it's like one of the other things I say in there, particularly For the Christian community. | ||
| Don't go to the church that's closest to you if they're only spewing things that are meaningless. | ||
| I want these people, these leaders on the pulpits, to get up there and talk about not only the biblical leanings of this country, but also the constitutional foundation of this country and how they do intersect. | ||
| One of the things that I do talk about there, as I mentioned, is the Tenth Amendment. | ||
| The power is not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states or reserved to the states respectively or to us, the people. | ||
| Okay, but let's get the federalism and you really are talking about subsidiarity which is a central part of Catholic teaching about how you get engaged in civic, but for our audience out there and you're one of the leaders of this movement, you've been with President Trump from the beginning, a guy that obviously has not backed down anywhere. | ||
| When you look at both the high, because you're one of the top leaders, but also to get your hands down the soil of the community, what do you have to say to those people who say, Mike, I hear you, but man, I've been doing this for a couple of years and I'm tired. | ||
| I wanted 50 seats in the House, I got 10 or 9. | ||
| I wanted to destroy everything up the chain of command, and I'm still fighting this every day, and Trump's down in Mar-a-Lago, and we're getting hammered every day. | ||
| I got McConnell going out on Wednesday with McConnell. | ||
| McConnell's going out with Biden to rub up on him out in Kentucky to say bipartisanship and pour more money. | ||
| You got the economy's bottoms blowing out. | ||
| You got this endless war in Ukraine that we're funneling $100 billion in. | ||
| What do you say to the little guy who goes, General Flynn, I love you, I respect you, I'm doing this, but are we winning or am I just wasting my time and spinning my wheels, sir? | ||
| Yeah, you're not wasting your time. | ||
| And I always want people to reflect on, you know, the hundreds of thousands, if not millions who have lost their lives fighting for freedom for this country from its very beginning. | ||
| So don't, you know, when you feel, you know, like you wake up one day and you just feel like crap. | ||
| I mean, Hey, you know what? | ||
| You're alive during this historic period of time. | ||
| And what I want the American people to, to be ready for is I want them to be ready to rally at the right time. | ||
| That's how we're going to unify. | ||
| Don't, you know, I, I got it. | ||
| I have bad days too. | ||
| I have days where I wake up and I'm like, man, You know, what the hell am I doing? | ||
| But I'm just telling you, people have to shore up. | ||
| They got to, you know, tighten up the boot, the laces on their boots and stand up and be ready. | ||
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Be ready. | |
| And how you're going to be ready is by getting involved in your local communities. | ||
| You know, I am going to speak to a a small local club here in the next county here in about another week and a half. | ||
| This is a club that went from like 50 members, they have over 300 members now. | ||
| That tells me that there's an awakening in this country, and I know it's happening all over. | ||
| all over the country because I hear the same thing. | ||
| So if you're not feeling up to it today, don't worry about it, get a little bit of rest and get back up and get back into the fight because that's what we're gonna need to unify this country. | ||
| I don't care whether you're a Democrat or a Republican. | ||
| Everybody in this country embraces the freedoms that we have and always have had those. | ||
| And we are facing a time, particularly this administration and this Congress and then this new world order crowd, we're facing a time where they are trying to take away our freedoms and basically create these public private partnerships where we're gonna find ourselves not being able to spend our own money and not being able to go to our own doctors. | ||
| I'm going to have you back on hopefully this week when you free up about the World Economic Forum, your analysis of that. | ||
| Natalie Winters has got some very shocking analysis of BBC and the British intelligence and American intelligence. | ||
| But I want to ask you about Ukraine. | ||
| People sitting there going, hey, you know, we fought this and now we're changing the speakership or we're going to get a deal. | ||
| Somehow the MAGA right is making this happen. | ||
| But I look at the Omnibus. | ||
| It's another 50 billion to Ukraine. | ||
| We've already spent, you know, we're going to spend over 110. | ||
| You were head of DIA. | ||
| What is your strategic assessment of Ukraine? | ||
| Because we're hearing every day the Russians are about to collapse. | ||
| Zelensky is going to retake Crimea. | ||
| All he needs is a couple hundred billion dollars more from the United States and Larry Fink is going to be there to help him spend it. | ||
| Sir? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Russia has achieved all of their objectives, and they've always called them limited objectives. | ||
| They've achieved them all, and they're now exposing, and if people pay real close attention, there was a speech by the Russian delegate or UN representative to the to Russia last week or the week before where he laid out all these biological labs that have been in there for a long, long time. And sadly, they're all sponsored or supported by the United States of America. I mean, one of the things that we have got to come to grips with is that this situation in Ukraine is not going to end well. It is not in our favor right now. | ||
| And the other thing is, I know a lot of guys, and I've told them to get the hell out of there, who are acting as mercenaries, because they make a lot of money, of this $110 billion, to my estimate, that we've already spent in Ukraine. | ||
| I mean, this is a complete waste of our time, of our money, and we should get out of there. | ||
| And there is an easy way to get to peace quickly. | ||
| And frankly, you know, if anybody thinks that Russia's on the ropes in this case, They're sadly mistaken. | ||
| The guy that just showed up to speak to our Congress in a sweatsuit outfit should have been thrown out on his rear end and not given another penny. | ||
| And here we are, we're giving him another, I think it's $60 or $70 billion. | ||
| I mean, this is insane, Steve. | ||
| We have got to get out of Ukraine as fast as we can. | ||
| Let Europe figure out What's best for that part of the world? | ||
| And frankly, we do have some requirements over there with things like NATO and things like the European Union that we do influence. | ||
| We need to make sure that we go back to what was already agreed to, frankly, in 1994 in Hungary at the Budapest Accords. | ||
| So anyway, there's a lot more to talk about that. | ||
| Maybe we can discuss that in detail coming up this week. | ||
| I know you volunteered, you're now a precinct committeeman, you're working down in, I think, in the Tampa-St. | ||
| Pete area. | ||
| The question for you is, if Harmeet Dhillon and Mike Lindell and some group actually, you know, breach the ramparts there and actually take over the RNC, are you prepared to join with them and become part of the senior leadership? | ||
| Would you volunteer to become part of the senior leadership of the RNC? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, absolutely. | ||
| And I want serious people. | ||
| I, you know, I know Mike, I know Harmeet. | ||
| I mean, these are very serious people. | ||
| We definitely have to have a change of leadership. | ||
| And what I would say is once that change of leadership occurs, the entire chain of command that's there now has to be gone. | ||
| And just, you know, thank them for their service and tell them to go, you know, to go back to wherever they came from. | ||
| And there needs to be a fresh set of leaders from top to bottom. | ||
| And then we've got to look at the, the RNC then has to look at the states and how are the states functioning, because there's too much grift and graft and corruption right now from the top on down, and that's not the way it's supposed to be. | ||
| And I'm out of Sarasota County, Sarasota County, Steve. | ||
| Sarasota. | ||
| General Flynn, how do people get to you, social media, what are your coordinates, your website, all your podcasts, everything? | ||
| If people can go to, they can go to GeneralFlynn.com, GeneralFlynn.com, there you go, and they can follow me on, I'm on all sorts of social media, and I have a great, great book out right now, Citizen's Guide to Fifth Generation Warfare. | ||
| It is an absolute bestseller. | ||
| We can't keep it on the shelves, and I appreciate All the support from people going out there. | ||
| They can find it on the website. | ||
| We will push it hard. | ||
| General Flynn, happy New Year, sir, and thank you for helping us fire off the football. | ||
| Thank you very much, brother. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Laser focus, laser focus, Steve. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Thank you for all you're doing. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| General Mike Flynn, fifth generation warfare. | ||
| Nobody knows it better than Mike Flynn. | ||
| Okay, we got Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen. | ||
| Some shocking poll numbers are going to break here in the War Room. | ||
| And our own Natalie Winters, next. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Monday, 2 January, Year of Our Lord 2023. | ||
| I want to thank, we've got our kickoff show for the new year. | ||
| Natalie Winters, our executive editor, co-host, joins us. | ||
| Natalie, I'm going to bring you back in a little while, but what you have been working on over the weekend ties directly to General Flynn. | ||
| Tease what we're going to be going into, because General Flynn made this thing that you've got to exercise It's important in freedom to exercise your ability to have free speech. | ||
| Some pretty shocking developments last week and over the weekend, was it not, ma'am? | ||
| Yeah, there was a very important interview that people may have missed given the timing of when it occurred on the BBC between our Director of National Intelligence and sort of her British counterpart, Where they discuss the various efforts that Western intelligence agencies are using, and really I would say deploying and weaponizing against people, particularly Americans on social media, under the pretense of combating, quote, disinformation, which I think anyone who's followed this show | ||
| He knows that that term is really, I think, just being used to kind of bludgeon the populist movement, but they get into the various ways that they're trying to suppress the so-called disinformation, particularly about the Russia-Ukraine conflict, even introducing a new term, pre-bunking, not just debunking misinformation, but getting ahead of these problematic narratives before they really get mainstreamed, and really just some stunning admissions from DNI Avril Haines about the extent | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong, but was the head of the British intelligence, was the host of the show for BBC? | ||
| really manufacture certain narratives about the Russian Ukraine crisis. | ||
| Hold it, I've got to bring you back because I go to, correct me if I'm wrong, but was the head of the British intelligence was the host of the show for BBC? | ||
| I mean this is kind of everybody's argued for years BBC was actually set up as part of British intelligence, but I think he was the host doing the interview, correct? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I buried the lead. | ||
| I mean, when we talk about how these mainstream media outlets are, you know, kind of laundering talking points on behalf of the Intel community, of course, coming out on the heels of the whole Twitter file situation. | ||
| I think it's very interesting that the BBC chooses their, like, Christmas, New Year's Eve guest hosts To quite literally be the leader of Britain's largest intelligence agency, the same one that Snowden released whistleblower documents about how they were spying on basically all of the UK. | ||
| So, it's in your face, and that's what they want. | ||
| It is in your face. | ||
| Natalie, hang on for a second. | ||
| Talk about information and getting real information out. | ||
| Rasmussen has been one of the best polling organizations. | ||
| Mark Mitchell joins us. | ||
| You teased this last week. | ||
| We were fortunate enough to be able to talk to you about this, but it's nothing short of stunning. | ||
| And I think the poll you got over at YouTube, you released it, it's called Died Suddenly. | ||
| Walk us through what the American people have told Rasmussen about the vaccine. | ||
| Yeah, well, let me tell you, you're breaking the news here. | ||
| So we'll be releasing this stuff later, but everybody's hearing it here first. | ||
| And before I get into it, I'd like to say, you know, if I had a nickel for every time I heard since November that the polling industry is dead, uh, you know, I'd say that we got the generic ballot within right at the margin of error, but you know, horse races to me, where it's really at in polling, we're independent journalists and we're speaking truth to power here. | ||
| And we're in a really absurd situation where 5 billion people took an experimental vaccine. | ||
| And yet millions of people have questions about the vaccine safety still. | ||
| And the numbers that I'm about to release, I want to tell everybody all it took was a few thousand dollars, a couple of off the shelf tools and the willpower. | ||
| So why aren't these questions being answered? | ||
| Why does it take somebody like us to pull on it? | ||
| And thankfully, pollsters like us are here to tell people what the public opinion really is. | ||
| So I think a few weeks ago, we very clearly answered that the vaccines are not safe. | ||
| 57% of Americans have concerns about major side effects for the vaccines. | ||
| 41% of vaccinated Americans had a side effect. | ||
| 7% of vaccinated Americans had a major side effect. | ||
| 12 million people, major side effect. | ||
| But we didn't really get at the question, is the vaccine a killer? | ||
| And so that's what we asked. | ||
| And the numbers say the vaccine is a killer. | ||
| So we asked people, do you personally know anyone whose death you think may have been caused by side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine? | ||
| 28% of American adults say yes. | ||
| That's 73 million Americans in this country. | ||
| Oh, hang on. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| You're saying, hit rewind on that again. | ||
| You're telling me that over a quarter of the American population says they know somebody that's, that's, that's died from, from died or had a major impact from taking the vaccine? | ||
| They personally know someone they think may have died as a result of COVID-19 vaccine side effects. | ||
| 73 million people say they know somebody. | ||
| People are going to jump on you all over the mainstream media that doesn't ignore it. | ||
| They're going to jump on you for the methodology. | ||
| Walk us through the polls architecture. | ||
| I mean, we asked 1,000 adults this question, right? | ||
| We weighted it to match a population of Americans based on the census. | ||
| I could run this all day long every week, but do I need to? | ||
| Maybe it'll be 22 next week, and maybe it'll be 31 the next week. | ||
| I mean, it's the answer, right? | ||
| Between 60 and call it 90 million Americans say they think they know somebody that died from the COVID-19 vaccine. | ||
| And the internals, I can get into the internals, but there's reasons to look at the internals and think, wow, this is a real signal. | ||
| So clearly, right, it's all 100% Republicans that say, yes, they know somebody, right? | ||
| And it's 0% of the Democrats. | ||
| It's actually more Democrats and Republicans. | ||
| 33% of Democrats say they know someone they think died from the vaccine. | ||
| Only 26% of Republicans. | ||
| Now, why is that? | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it's because the Democrats know more vaccinated people. | ||
| Or maybe because they're younger and more socially engaged. | ||
| But there's the number, right? | ||
| It's not all wrong. | ||
| Hold on, hang on, hang on, because everybody's going to say it's all a bunch of Trump right-wingers and the anti-vax, wing-nut, children's health defense, Bobby Kennedy crowd. | ||
| You're telling me in your poll that the Democrats had a higher percentage of people saying that they knew somebody that died from taking the vax than Republicans? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Now, also, okay, so somebody's going to say, well, they got a vaccine axe to grind, right? | ||
| Maybe they don't know somebody personally. | ||
| Maybe they saw some, you know, soccer commentator die on TV or something like that. | ||
| I personally have concerns about the vaccine safety. | ||
| I would have had to answer this question in the negative. | ||
| I don't actually know somebody personally that I think died from the vaccine. | ||
| So for everybody out there grinding an ax, there's ostensibly someone like me who like didn't say yes. | ||
| But now, like who has the most skin in the game? | ||
| It's the people that took the vaccine. | ||
| So clearly the people that took the vaccine, It's going to say 0% of them know somebody, right? | ||
| And the people that didn't take the vaccine, it's going to be 100% of them, right? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| 22% of people that were vaccinated say they know somebody died from the vaccine and 45% of unvaccinated. | ||
| So there is a spread there, but clearly there's reasons that that spread could exist, right? | ||
| Like maybe I didn't get the vaccine because my friend died from it, right? | ||
| So I look at these internals and I see a real and strong and major signal. | ||
| So now, how many people does the vaccine, has it killed? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't answer that. | ||
| I don't know if we'll ever be able to answer that because I think that there's reasons to believe that the people that participated in this grand exercise of profiteering and medical tyranny, you know, all the incriminating data would potentially come from them. | ||
| But why hasn't, why has nobody asked the American people? | ||
| The American people think this vaccine kills people. | ||
| We asked some other questions too. | ||
| They're just as damning. | ||
| It's like, How likely is it that side effects of COVID-19 vaccine have caused a significant number of unexplained deaths? | ||
| So this isn't just, do you personally know somebody that died? | ||
| It's like, look at all of the things you see around you. | ||
| And is the vaccine killing major amounts of people? | ||
| 49% of Americans say that it's at least somewhat likely that the vaccine is causing a significant number of unexplained deaths. | ||
| And once again, it's not just Republicans. | ||
| 56% of Republicans say it's at least somewhat likely 51% of Democrats. | ||
| 38% of the vaccinated. | ||
| And of course, 77% of the unvaccinated. | ||
| Go back to the beginning, how you led off. | ||
| You said five billion people have taken it, quote-unquote, but it's been no real information put out there. | ||
| Nobody's asked any follow-up. | ||
| Why is the polling industry, why is the information industry, we've got Natalie on here talking about British intelligence and American intelligence on BBC talking about pre-bunking that they believe is misinformation. | ||
| Why, go back to your beginning in your theory of the case, why are you the first guys really go out and ask this question two years into this? | ||
| If you look back at the history of Rasmussen Reports, like, you know, how we started with our founder, Scott Rasmussen, he used to be on Fox News almost, you know, a couple of times a week, right? | ||
| And I'm not pinning it at them. | ||
| I'm just saying that times have changed and information consumption has changed and narratives have congealed and alternative narratives have sought different channels, let's just say. | ||
| And so how our information gets to the public has changed very much since how it did 20 years ago. | ||
| And I think part of what's changed is that there's less importance placed on news media journalists caring what the public opinion thinks as opposed to supplying a narrative, right? | ||
| And what we say is what American, you know, people don't seem to care as much now. | ||
| Your audience cares, right? | ||
| Like they've been driven far afield. | ||
| But I just sit back and I like watch network news and do I think, like, they're not telling me necessarily the truth about vaccine safety. | ||
| Why are they going to tell me the truth about what American public opinion is? | ||
| Because that's kind of the public play here, right? | ||
| That's being passed back and forth and whose side has more power and whatnot. | ||
| I think public opinion is very important in that equation. | ||
| But it's been suppressed so far today. | ||
| Right now, you're kicking off the week, and we want this poll in the YouTube and everything. | ||
| We want as many people to see this as possible. | ||
| We'll have you on for further discussions, because we need to drill down this. | ||
| But we start this week with the Rasmussen poll that's pretty shocking. | ||
| Not pretty shocking, very shocking. | ||
| Elon Musk has promised us we're going to get the Fauci files on all of this by, let's say, Thursday, Friday. | ||
| How do you think this week's going to change the narrative, sir? | ||
| I hope it does. | ||
| I felt like something broke when we got our news out there a couple weeks ago about the major side effects. | ||
| I think this is a 10 times bigger story. | ||
| Normally, we have a paywall. | ||
| I'd ask your watchers, go to the site. | ||
| You can download all this. | ||
| We're making it open to public available. | ||
| There's so much more in the cross tabs. | ||
| But, you know, opinion is changing, especially with Democrats. | ||
| So a year ago, we asked Democrats, we asked everybody, is the vaccine safe and effective? | ||
| And 81% of Democrats were at least somewhat confident. | ||
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81%. | |
| But now we ask, you know, is there real reasons to be concerned or is it conspiracy theories? | ||
| And Democrats are split on that. | ||
| So they've changed majorly. | ||
| Mark, hang on for one second, because this is going to be a massive political issue pretty quickly. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| March Mitchell from Rasmussen, Andy Biggs from The Revolt, next. | ||
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Speaker of the House is third in line to the United States Presidency. | |
| Do we really want to install a corrupt, establishment, rhino speaker who votes with Democrats more than any GOP member of the House? | ||
| America, we urge you to call your congressperson immediately and tell them do not give Kevin McCarthy the gavel. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| That ad is one of several Laura Loomer is making. | ||
| She's become quite an ad maker and this is having a lot of impact. | ||
| We'll play some of her other work today. | ||
| She's up on Twitter now. | ||
| She's been unchained by Elon Musk. | ||
| She's on Twitter, has a pretty big platform, but she's making a series of ads like this. | ||
| Let's say that she's not a fan of Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| I want to bring in Andy Biggs, who actually is running. | ||
| One guy has actually thrown his hat into the ring. | ||
| Andy, our Congressman Biggs, a lot going on over the weekend. | ||
| McCarthy put forward this couple of page memo or analysis that said, hey, you know, there's all these problems. | ||
| I understand there's problems. | ||
| And I'll promise to do all this on the debt ceiling, on spending, you know, on the rules. | ||
| I'll do everything. | ||
| It's kind of in this, Happy talk language, but he put out, you know, it's kind of like the commitment to America he had, but it's on paper. | ||
| Then the nine, you guys wouldn't even, I think, even discuss it. | ||
| The nine went back with a letter said, hey, this is nice. | ||
| It's a it's a beginning of a negotiated, but kind of want to contract with you before we believe it. | ||
| They've dug in hard. | ||
| Are there 14 hard votes? | ||
| Actually, I'm hearing, I think Morning Joe's reporting 15 no's right now, and people are saying he's closer to 200 than to 218. | ||
| Can you get us up to date on what's going on, sir? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, so first of all, there's, as you and I are speaking, it looks like 15 that I am aware of. | ||
| I think that there's other people that on a, on a second ballot would be inclined to vote against Kevin. | ||
| So I mean, you got that going on, but in the meantime, what's happening is McCarthy is working hard to try and assuage those nine people by trying to come in and basically put a contract down with some very specific language On what the House rules would be and make a pledge on that. | ||
| I think he's going to give away the motion to vacate. | ||
| I think he's going to say that he would let that go. | ||
| You know, which to me is just, this has never been my deal anyway, the rules package. | ||
| I mean, yeah, you need good rules, but you need somebody who you trust to enforce those rules. | ||
| That's where, and to lead and use the tools to advance our cause. | ||
| But hang on, let me just put a pin in it. | ||
| Because of what you've been saying from day one, he doesn't really stand for anything. | ||
| He puts this thing out in writing over the weekend. | ||
| The nine, you know, the Eli Cranes, the Andy Oogles, the Chip Roys, Anna Paulina Luna, they come back and say, nah, it's a start of a negotiation, but we need more. | ||
| Understanding your buried lead, which is, hey, he's got a bunch of these folks for the first ballot of yeses, but after the first ballot, a bunch of these are free agents. | ||
| He could have 30 or 40 nos after that. | ||
| He's now in complete deal mode, which is basically, okay, motion to vacate. | ||
| If it's won, it's won. | ||
| Rules, if you want the rules committee, take the rules committee. | ||
| I mean, he's doing anything right now. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm seeing happen. | ||
| this before tomorrow at noon, correct? I mean, he has no principle, just, hey, take what you need, take all the furniture out of the house, whatever, I got to be speaker. Is that essentially where we stand right now in negotiations? | ||
| Yeah, he thinks the conference, the Clintons leaving the White House, right? Take the China. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm seeing happen. I think that he's just, he's in total bargaining mood. And we don't really know what's going to happen tomorrow. | ||
| Other than the first ballot, he doesn't get it. | ||
| That's where we sit as you and I talk. | ||
| And then what happens after that? | ||
| Yeah, he may lose a whole bunch more. | ||
| If it goes three, four, five ballots, he's done. | ||
| And somebody else will be there. | ||
| Not even the moderates who are saying it must only be Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| At some point, logically, they have to say, well, you know, It doesn't have to be only McCarthy. | ||
| We could get somebody else we could work with. | ||
| And the reality is there are so many issues that the right and left of our conference agree on. | ||
| Everything from even like border security to balancing a budget, men and women's locker rooms, you know, a whole host of issues that you can get 10 or 15. | ||
| If you can get those across the finish line, hey, guess what? | ||
| That would be a pretty successful term. | ||
| And let me ask you, since the Senate already said, hey, they've really given Nancy Pelosi the gavel on the appropriations. | ||
| They don't trust the guy. | ||
| Is there any possibility? | ||
| Because the counter argument he's had from day one is that Hakeem Jeffries is going to be the speaker. | ||
| But we know that's not going to happen. | ||
| But can a side deal be cut? | ||
| With these guys, they have a bunch of Democrats just... I mean, McCarthy, to get to his number, one thing is to get more votes, the other is just take down the denominator. | ||
| Is there any possibility he could cut a deal with Democrats to make sure that, not that Hakeem Jeffries is going to be Speaker, but enough guys just don't show up? | ||
| It is a possibility. | ||
| It's a real possibility. | ||
| McCarthy squeaks through with, you know, even if he loses 30 votes or 20 votes, he gets enough Democrats to walk off the floor that he doesn't. | ||
| Not that he could govern, but is that a possibility in your mind, Congressman Biggs? | ||
| It is a possibility. | ||
| It's a real possibility. | ||
| The question is how many Republicans will stay off Kevin McCarthy? | ||
| Because let's say if you get 15 Republicans off of McCarthy, your number on the Democrat side is really closer to 20. | ||
| You have to have 25 Democrats. | ||
| And they will never do that on the first round. | ||
| They have to make sure that Joaquin gets a unanimous vote on the first round. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Because the Congressional Black Caucus insists on it. | ||
| They have to have that. | ||
| And then what happens is, Uh, what kind of deal would McCarthy make once he realizes how many people or Hakeem realizes how many, how many Democrats have to go into their office and have a sandwich while the vote's going on? | ||
| Um, because you're right. | ||
| When you reduce the denominator, a lot of people don't understand that, but when you reduce the denominator here, then he doesn't need 218 anymore. | ||
| Let's say, let's say the 30 Democrats walk. | ||
| Well, now, now he needs to about 203. | ||
| 203, 204. | ||
| Isn't he caught? | ||
| In a vice between either kowtowing to the Democrats and having them, which basically eviscerates him as a, as a speaker that the Republicans trust and nobody, you know, he can't do anything. | ||
| Or he's now got the hardest core MAGA guys from Gates to yourself, to Chip Roy, to others, Eli Crane and Paulina Luna that essentially control him as speaker. | ||
| I mean, he's, he's in a, was it Hobson's choice? | ||
| He he's, he's got no good options right now. | ||
| Correct? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| But I mean, here's the deal. | ||
| I want whoever our speaker is to succeed. | ||
| But I don't think Kevin can succeed. | ||
| So I don't think he can be the speaker. | ||
| So yeah, but you're right. | ||
| He's in a bit of a box. | ||
| He was trying to box in the nine who had written a letter about the rules. | ||
| And it didn't work because he's got these guys over on the other side that For whatever reason, they don't want 72 hours to read the bills. | ||
| They don't want a 200-year-old rule to be in there regarding to vacate the chair. | ||
| They're not willing to commit to invoking the Budget Control Act of 74, which we actually have a budget process. | ||
| Or we try to balance the budget. | ||
| We may not get it balanced this year, but in seven years we're going to do it. | ||
| And so we're going to begin edging down the spending. | ||
| He's got to deal with that on the left side of the Republican conference. | ||
| He's got to deal with us. | ||
| You've got a bunch of people in the middle that just don't seem to care, I guess. | ||
| And then you've got Hakeem Jeffries, who will not be speaker, but he's got to make a deal somewhere, I guess, if he wants to be speaker. | ||
| And he does want to be Speaker more than anything else in life, I guess. | ||
| Well, if he's already collapsed on the motion to vacate, which I told people a week ago it would happen over the New Year's weekend, and the rules, I mean, he's cratering on everything right now. | ||
| Not that, I'm not saying people can go trust it or anything, but he's throwing over all the furniture off the ship right now. | ||
| Let's go back to the way to stop the Hakeem Jeffries move of the Democrats and to get some sort of compromise of McCarthy. | ||
| Isn't it to stop? | ||
| I mean, what's your guy's power to stop the votes after one and say, hey, look, you didn't get it. | ||
| Let's get in a conference and let's duke it out in conference and see who steps up to the plate, whether it's Jordan or Scalise or whoever, you know, Hearn, you know, Andy Biggs gets to make another pitch. | ||
| Why don't you get off the floor, get in a conference and bleed it out there? | ||
| Well, you can you can do that. | ||
| Um, and I agree with you, but the, the, the clerk is in control of the, of the body, at least the floor. | ||
| So if somebody says we want to adjourn, um, she could say, no, I, you know, I don't recognize you for an adjournment. | ||
| People can vote to prevent an adjournment. | ||
| Um, and for Kevin, our, our, our leverage goes up. | ||
| As the ballots go and he doesn't get it, right? | ||
| That's how our leverage goes. | ||
| I would just assume take that second vote right away. | ||
| Because if you demonstrate that not only did you lose the 15 or whatever, but a few more people said, okay, I'm not with him. | ||
| I was with him on the first vote. | ||
| I'm not now. | ||
| It's a real thing. | ||
| He's not going to get it. | ||
| And if that happens, then you get to a point where over the hours as they go on, You get back into a closed door meeting where there's acrimony and pushing and shoving verbally, of course, to get to a more consensus candidate. | ||
| You haven't had multiple ballots in a hundred years, and the reason is the man or woman either had it and showed their power by having it, or they didn't have and they said, I'm just going to wave off like McCarthy did in 15, because you can't really govern the institution. | ||
| If it goes to multiple ballots, you're so chopped up and you've cut so many deals. | ||
| How are you even speaker? | ||
| I mean, if you look on the deal on the right, as much as the Warren posse and others want anybody but McCarthy, Even if he was to agree to these things, if he agreed to what I'm hearing he's prepared to agree to, he's controlled by the MAGA Republicans. | ||
| I'm not saying you can trust him, I'm not saying to do it, but my point is the reason there hasn't been a multiple ballots in a hundred years, the people that were in, the people that had to actually run it realized they couldn't do it unless they had the votes in the first round. | ||
| Am I wrong in that assessment? | ||
| No, I think that's right. | ||
| That's what happened with both Boehner and I think he's accepted in the sense that he knows now that it's real. | ||
| And so he's bargaining like crazy. | ||
| votes. Well, you either cut all the deals that you have to cut, which is what I think McCarthy's in. | ||
| McCarthy is in the steps of grieving of bargaining right now. I think he's accepted in the sense that he knows now that it's real. And so he is bargaining like crazy. And the question is, how does he keep all those bargains he's making? | ||
| And then the other thing, too, is you don't vote on the House rules. | ||
| One of the things that we asked for months and months ago when we first presented rules was that we move to the rules first. | ||
| Everybody's constrained by the rules. | ||
| You know what they are before you run for the speakership. | ||
| And they wouldn't do it. | ||
| They said, no, that's up. | ||
| We're not going to do that. | ||
| So now what has to happen is just it gets back to this thing. | ||
| You've got to bet on the come. | ||
| You've got to bet that Uh, the, the moderates are going to vote for that rules package that binds Kevin McCarthy or any other speaker. | ||
| And, and, and, and who knows if that's going to happen? | ||
| I mean, we just simply don't know. | ||
| Congressman, can we keep you for a minute? | ||
| We've got a short break. | ||
| Can we just hold you for a second? | ||
| I've got a couple more questions that I know the audience wants to get into. | ||
| Congressman Andy Biggs, who kind of kicked this whole thing off, and he's running against Kevin McCarthy tomorrow, this historic vote. | ||
| They laughed at Andy Biggs when this thing first started six, seven weeks ago. | ||
| They ain't laughing now. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Congressman Andy Biggs. | ||
| We've got Mark Mitchell, the explosive. | ||
| Rasmussen poll? | ||
| Shocking. | ||
| Over 25% of the American people know someone that has died from the vaccine, according to this poll. | ||
| Much more in there. | ||
| And by the way, more Democrats than Republicans, so it's just not the anti-vax MAGA movement. | ||
| Natalie Winters on pre-bunking misinformation by the intelligence community, all next in The World. | ||
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| Okay, there's another spot by Laura Loomer. | ||
| She's now up on Twitter. | ||
| You can catch all her work there. | ||
| She's become quite a spot maker for politics. | ||
| Very powerful. | ||
| Andy Biggs, real quick. | ||
| Congressman Biggs, I want to ask you, what should people be looking for? | ||
| But I've got to tell you, when you first did this, they were laughing and mocking. | ||
| This is a waste of time, Andy Biggs. | ||
| You know, this is Don Quixote. | ||
| They're not laughing now, are they, sir? | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| And what's happened is We've had some good people that have been with me from the beginning. | ||
| When the first vote came, 36, I think it stunned the establishment that 36 people would vote against Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| 31 for me. | ||
| And then when we get, as it has gone on, of course, we've lost some of them here and there on the way, but there are others that are out there on second ballot. | ||
| There are people that are really disturbed by the potential of a McCarthy speakership. | ||
| And what I've Found curious as we get closer to January 3rd, the closer we were getting, the more people realized he really didn't have the votes. | ||
| He really didn't have the votes. | ||
| And we were serious. | ||
| And as we sit right now, Steve, you and I talking to America, he doesn't have the votes right now. | ||
| And so he's got to cut his deals. | ||
| He's got to do his machinations, all kinds of things that Nobody thought he would have to do if he's going to even get there. | ||
| I'm not sure he can get there. | ||
| Uh, real quick, Fox news on the show yesterday, jumped on the Congressman from Montana about, Hey, you guys are just slowing down the Republican agenda. | ||
| This is awful. | ||
| Uh, what's your response? | ||
| Are you, are you guys really slowing down anything? | ||
| No, we're not slowing down anything. | ||
| I think if you look, most committees don't even begin work towards the, until the end of January. | ||
| Anyway, the other thing is, uh, this leadership. | ||
| You know, the omnibus. | ||
| You just gave up 95% of your leverage. | ||
| Believe me, what you're going to start seeing is performance art. | ||
| This talk about, oh, we're going to get rid of the 87,000 agents. | ||
| Tell us how you're going to do that. | ||
| You just gave up the omnibus. | ||
| You just gave up the mechanism to do that. | ||
| We're going to have to try to use every procedural tool. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| We're not slowing this thing down. | ||
| Mr. McCarthy could have allowed the committees to be populated by the steering committee. | ||
| He should have recused himself, allowed the remainder of the steering committee to populate the committees if he was concerned about slowing things down. | ||
| What should people look for over the next 24 hours? | ||
| Who should they be looking for? | ||
| Because I can tell people right now, it's changing every minute because they're in deal-making mode right now to try to lock this down in the first vote. | ||
| So where should people go, Congressman Vicks? | ||
| I would go to, I'd follow Scott Perry on social media. | ||
| I'd follow Chip Roy on social media. | ||
| I would look to the HFC social media site. | ||
| I would look at maybe from the other side, David Joyce, Brian Fitzpatrick on social media, see what they're saying. | ||
| They're the other side of the Republican conference. | ||
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| And so you'll see what's going on and get a feel for it. | ||
| But there's going to be more and more that happens. | ||
| Kevin's going to make more and more deals. | ||
| He's going to do everything he can to kind of tamp this thing down before we get on the floor tomorrow at noon. | ||
| The evil battle in what will be historic day tomorrow. | ||
| Congressman Biggs, how do people follow you on social media? | ||
| What are your coordinates? | ||
| It's going to get you there. | ||
| You can also go to my official site, which is biggs.house.gov. | ||
| But encourage you to follow us along. | ||
| We'll try to keep people posted from what we're hearing. | ||
| You know, you're the personification of an old phrase we use here on the worm a lot. | ||
| Courage is contagious. | ||
| Courage is contagious. | ||
| Congressman Biggs, thank you, brother. | ||
| Hey, thanks, Steve. | ||
| Good to be with you. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Okay, add MTG and add Gates to that social media. | ||
| I want to make sure Captain Bannon and Grace can put those up so people can follow it. | ||
| I want to go back, and I appreciate him sticking around this blockbuster. | ||
| How should this be promulgated? | ||
| Because this poll is so important, and we're going to push it out, Mark Mitchell. | ||
| This thing is such a shocker. | ||
| Do you think any mainstream media are going to sit there and actually interview you guys, look at the crosstabs? | ||
| Have you gotten any push so far of people that are interested in dealing with this? | ||
| Because this poll is jaw-dropping, sir. | ||
| Well, let me first thank you for existing. | ||
| And for Twitter as well. | ||
| I think without outlets like yourself and without Twitter, nobody would probably really hear about this anymore. | ||
| I was trying to make a mental list. | ||
| If the vaccine is a killer, as American public opinion would seem to imply, the people involved include, you know, big pharma, health systems, most medical practitioners, big media, big tech, most major corporations, federal and local governments advertise. | ||
| I mean, it's, it's a huge bandwagon. | ||
| And we're a lone voice out there in the wind. | ||
| There are medical professionals have been all over this since the start of the pandemic and you know, great for them. | ||
| But they're waiting to see empirical data that I don't think is ever going to be exist or be trusted. | ||
| And we'll see what happens this week. | ||
| You know, the Fauci stuff's coming from Twitter. | ||
| We're putting this video out there. | ||
| Our story is up and live at the site. | ||
| Like I said, it's not behind the paywall. | ||
| Everybody should go check it out. | ||
| Download the crosstabs. | ||
| Take a look. | ||
| Don't believe me. | ||
| Go look for yourself. | ||
| I think what we want to do, we got this historic vote. | ||
| So as soon as I get this in back of us, we got to have you back on and maybe take the evening show and just go through it because it's such a blockbuster. | ||
| And so you got the Fauci situation, but you also have the grand jury that DeSantis and Latipo, Dr. Latipo have had impaneled down in Florida. | ||
| That's going to be a very big deal. | ||
| What are your coordinates right now? | ||
| We want to make sure we get this thing out. | ||
| So where should people go right now, Mark Mitchell? | ||
| Twitter, at Rasmussen underscore poll, link to the stories up. | ||
| There'll be a link to the YouTube video in about five or ten minutes. | ||
| Please, you know, help us spread this, right? | ||
| You know, hopefully this is the one that helps wake up, you know, the normies that are out there. | ||
| And there's still, I mean, as I'm sitting here talking, there are vaccine commercials playing on TVs right now with no safety or side effect information. | ||
| Vaccine commercials paid for by taxpayers. | ||
| Yeah, by you, Frank. | ||
| Paid by the taxpayers. | ||
| And they could have bought a poll. | ||
| They could have bought a poll for a couple thousand bucks. | ||
| Instead, they spent a hundred billion dollars. | ||
| I think they didn't want a poll. | ||
| Mark Mitchell, you're a patriot and a hero. | ||
| Thank you very much, Thor. | ||
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