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Dec. 28, 2022 - Bannon's War Room

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Pray for our enemies.
unidentified		Because we're going medieval on this, people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The people have had a belly full of it.
unidentified		I know you don't like hearing that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		Warren, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
unidentified		Okay, welcome.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It is Wednesday, 28 December, Year of Our Lord 2022.
		I really want to thank Real America's Voice for having us up during Christmas week.
		We're really, really excited about that and want to thank them for everything.
		These shows have been, quite frankly, action-packed and we're going to continue on.
		I want to bring in Natalie Winters.
		She is the leading investigator in this country.
		And that's both good news and kind of sad news, right?
		The number one investigator in this country, against all odds, on the infiltration of the Chinese Communist Party into every aspect of your life.
		Every aspect of your life.
		The Chinese Communist Party, the illegitimate rulers of the Chinese people, are as tough and as cunning and as smart of any enemy this country has ever faced.
		And given the scale of the country they have illegally taken over, right, and the amazing productivity of the Chinese people and the amazing scale of that nation, they're an existential threat like we've never had before.
		And to add to it, they have bought and paid for our elites.
		You know, the professor Who wrote this book on the Thucydides Trap.
		This is Kissinger's thing.
		The Thucydides Trap that, you know, you have rising powers and declining powers based on the Peloponnesian War.
		In that, I think, 14 times in history, you've had this situation where...
		A declining global power and a rising power have come in conflict, and I think, you know, six times it's led to, you know, an incredible, devastating war, but a couple of times where the declining power is able to nudge the rising power and to kind of accept the way that they ran that peace was there, and that was what Kissinger and Graham Allison were pitching, right?
		So they strap in.
		This is what all the elites in this country.
		We're the declining power.
		We're a power in decline.
		Right?
		And China's the rising power, CCP's the rising power, so we should just kind of nudge them along and get them to accept free market capitalism and all that.
		So he came to the embassy one day for lunch.
		We talked for about three or four hours and I went to the book and I said, hey, look, Professor, not just that you guys try to sell the same thing back in the early 70s with Russia, because you did, the same two guys, the same two guys try to sell the Soviet Union as a rising power, America declined.
		I said, let's leave that aside.
		Let's leave the unpleasant history of you and Kissinger trying to sell that before, which was dead wrong.
		Let's just talk about the book itself.
		I said, you know what's interesting?
		Not one time in the book that you wrote and all the backup that you and Kissinger provide, do the elites in the country, the power that's declining, make more money on the way down than they made on the way up.
unidentified		And he's like, hubbada hubbada hubbada hubbada hubbada.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I said, isn't that the central point?
		That our elites have been bought and paid for, but they're making more.
		Look at the concentration of wealth in this country.
		What's happened over the last 10 or 15 years?
		This is all kind of well thought through.
		This ain't a conspiracy.
		It's an open, they're up in your face about it.
		And this is why Natalie Winters is so important and so important to America at this time in its history.
		And it's great that a young woman would step up with that intellect and commitment and focus to do this type of investigative reporting.
		It's also pretty sad when we've got to depend upon a 20-year-old or 21-year-old right out of the University of Chicago, who a couple of years ago was in high school and prep school in LA.
		Think about that for a second.
		But that's where we are.
		The research is cutting edge.
		Now, Natalie, you brought this up.
		The reason I bring this up, there's a big think piece and people have to understand Axios and Politico.
		These are the ones that drive the narrative, not MSNBC and that.
		But MSNBC, I'm not saying it's down market.
		It's obviously mass.
		But the leaders and the thought leaders are these new sites and these think tanks.
		And Politico is very powerful.
		Axios is very powerful.
		And there's a handful of others.
		Politico has this big think piece.
		Right?
		This big think piece that the hardliners, the hardliners and the anti-CCP hardliners are really taking America in a bad direction, right?
		And particularly they see the tectonic plate shift that we forced by driving over the window over here and particularly making sure the most important thing we've done is to separate the Chinese Communist Party from the Chinese people.
		Everybody thought it was China, China, China.
		No, no, no, no, no, no.
		It's 1.4 billion people, right?
		Or 1.3 billion, whatever your calculation is.
		There's a lot.
		There's only 90 million communists, members of the Chinese Communist Party, and they're not communists.
		It's just the old emperor's, you know, apparatus that they run the country with.
		Of that, it's only a couple thousand that matter, and in the factions and the clans that fight each other, you get down to a couple of dozen.
		Meaningful players.
		That's who controls illegitimate, and because, wait for it, the United States of America, after the war, we allowed this to happen.
		We had all the power in China to make sure that you could have a free democratic China, and I'm not saying Chiang Kai-shek and these folks were the best, because they were not corrupt up to their eyeballs.
		Okay?
		But the United States, the Chinese people, and the Russian people that took the brunt of the fascists and the imperial Japanese army were left to kind of deal with themselves with these horrible dictators in the Bolsheviks in Moscow and in Peking at the time.
		So this big think piece comes out and says, no, no, no, no, we're not thinking about this, this decoupling, all this, this is really bad.
		And we've got to figure out how to go to have a essentially have a group hug.
		Right.
		And then I look down is from my favorite, the Carnegie Endowment of Peace.
		And I go, wow.
		I said, I think good old Natalie Winters, I think she'd been on these folks for a while and Shazam.
		She certainly has.
		Natalie, this gets to the heart of the infiltration into our nation among our elites.
		I want you to take it.
		Tell me about this guy.
		Tell me about the Carnegie Institute for Peace that's right there in Washington, D.C., one of the biggest, most prestigious think tanks, and their relationship, ma'am, to the Chinese Communist Party.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Sure, so this article, it's titled, The Fevered Anti-China Attitude in Washington is Going to Backfire.
		Even though the byline says it's by John Bateman, it very well could have been authored by the Chinese Communist Party, because the talking points that run through it really are straight from Beijing, some of their Made in China 2025 initiatives calling For the United States and China to maintain close ties in the technological field, but really just more broadly that Americans should not view China as a competitor, but rather a collaborator.
		And like you said, these are kind of the old tried and tested talking points.
		of the old establishment, whether it's Russia or China, trying to really gaslight the American people to have them perceive their reality as untrue, that the Chinese Communist Party is actually an ally, when in reality it's the largest existential threat to the United States and our way of life.
		But what's so interesting, and I think why this piece really resonated with so many people, especially those of us who follow Chinese Communist Party infiltration into academia and think tanks and media, is this really is a perfect example of how the Chinese Communist Really launders their talking points through American figureheads.
		And I would say really one of the organizations at the railhead of this is the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
		And what's so interesting, just keep this in the back of your mind as I kind of list chapter and verse all the ways this group is tied to the Chinese Communist Party.
		Our current director of the CIA, Bill Burns, he used to be the president of this think tank.
		So when you talk about the national security state and how powerful they are, Over really all aspects of our current political system.
		This is just another perfect example of how they've really opened the floodgates for Chinese Communist Party infiltration.
		But this author in particular, a guy by the name of John Bateman, who's a senior fellow in their technology and international affairs program, not only has he been listed as authors on several papers published by the Carnegie Institute that have actually been funded explicitly by Chinese Communist Party influence groups, particularly a group known as the China United States Exchange Foundation.
		This is a group that really leads China's what's called United Front effort, which is a multi-billion dollar political warfare operation that Chinese elites themselves have called their quote, magic weapon to advance communism.
		It's really when you kind of get into the nitty gritty of how China actually compromises American elites, this is the mechanism whereby they do it.
		But the Carnegie Endowment really has created dozens of people like John Bateman.
		Not only do they have several Chinese Communist Party members and members of Chinese Communist Party influence groups on their board, but they routinely accept very large financial donations from them.
		Their American scholars contribute to Chinese state-run publications, journals like the China-US Focus.
		Alongside, you know, commanders and admirals from China's military and naval forces.
		So that really shows you what kind of Chinese Communist Party entities these people are interacting with.
		And I really think it shouldn't be lost on anyone the gravity of this influence campaign that has emanated, not just from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, but really entire all of think tank row in Washington, D.C.
		Because back in 2012, QSEF, again, this Chinese influence group, had partnered with the Carnegie Endowment to publish the US-China Security Perceptions Project.
		And really, the core thesis of this document, which included a host of, you know, American politicians, people who, you know, now work in the Biden regime, very influential people, the central thesis was to emphasize cooperation over competition. And basically what you see is that from then on, the Carnegie Endowment and all of their so-called experts really have have just kind of washed, rinsed, repeat, maybe changed these talking points every now
		But it really is the broader narrative, the broader push, this Thucydides trap idea, which is, I mean, aggressively anti-American.
		It's always betting against America.
		But it really is the idea that America should not confront China on any issue.
		In this case, it's technology.
		But what's so interesting too, I think, just to kind of extrapolate, you know, Don Bateman wrote a book about decoupling with China and the person who wrote the foreword for it was former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
		And the Carnegie Endowment is also extensively funded by a bunch of these big tech companies But also there's, of course, you know, federal government funding that goes into it.
		It really is in some ways a state run think tank.
		And I think you have to understand that, you know, I think we're learning day by day that a lot of these social media platforms are state run social media entities, right, like Twitter.
		But I think there's a component, right, for example, this Politico piece is a perfect glowing example of it.
		But that there's also an element of state run media going on here in the United States where you see a lot of these American kind of intelligence agencies in partnership with the Chinese Communist Party are really laundering this bizarre theory, this bizarre Thucydides trap theory, this bizarre collaboration over confrontation angle and approach.
		To the Chinese Communist Party.
		And I think the best part of this article, too, is that they try to say that the Biden regime has actually been difficult and been tough on China because they chose to sanction a few technology companies.
		And the timing of this is very curious because it's certainly coming just as we're going to be getting into congressional investigations into how Hunter Biden is compromised by China and really the entire Democratic Party and establishment.
		So they're trying to get ahead of this.
		By saying actually Joe Biden is tough on the Chinese Communist Party, which I think anyone knows who follows politics, nothing could be further from the truth.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get into this next in the next segments and through the rest of the hour about the collapse of the narrative.
		But part of this is obviously the focus on Fauci and the investigation in the Wuhan lab and the whole beginning of the COVID-19 and the vax and all that.
		But I want to go back.
		We got about a minute.
		Just go back.
		Let's hit rewind.
		I want you to just go through the Carnegie Endowment of their involvement, direct involvement with the Chinese Communist Party, as you found from your research.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		There's no better example of this than the fact that the founder and the ranking chairman of the United Front, which is, again, China's political warfare operation, a guy by the name of Cheng Qihua, he visited the Carnegie Endowment and gave a speech there.
		They welcomed him with open arms.
		a few years ago.
		From then on, they proceeded to open up institutes in China, partnering with state-run institutions like Tsinghua University, which has launched cyber attacks against the United States, conducts espionage campaigns.
		It's also the alma mater of Xi Jinping.
		I know this think tank may be based in Washington, D.C., even though it does have offshoots in China, but it really should register as a foreign agent on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party because the talking points that come out of it, really, you can't cut at any...
		Yes or no, Natalie Winters.
		that and what Beijing wants.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Do you believe you have enough evidence that you could go and that they should be registered as a foreign agent representing the Chinese Communist Party?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yes or no, Natalie Winters.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Them and Hunter Biden, of course.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Short commercial break.
		Natalie's going to join us on the other side.
		We're also going to bring in Dr. Paul Alexander, Ed Dowd, Tony Lyons.
		We're going to talk about the upcoming investigation and how the math is starting to destroy the narrative.
		The math versus the narrative.
unidentified		next in the world.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So we've never had, we've really never had in the history of this country a situation like this where we have an existential threat.
		And by the way, they're not shy.
		You know, we have the Committee on the Present Danger guys on here all the time.
		They're not shy.
		The CCP is not shy about saying they're at war with us.
		They declared a people's war a couple of years ago.
		They're not shy about saying they want to decouple from us.
		This is what they did in May of 2019, when they rejected the deal that takes care of the seven deadly sins On trade and cooperation, they walked away from it after taking us almost two years to negotiate it.
		They walked away in May of 2019 to say, no, we can't do that, right?
		What Peter had worked nonstop on, we can't do that.
		And in that time, and Ian Bremmer says, Ian Bremmer calls it the most important geopolitical, at that time, event in the 21st century, where they made a declaration internally, they were going to decouple technologically.
		That they couldn't allow Facebook and Twitter and also all the advanced developments in quantum computing that we could cut them off with and choke them down in 90 days.
		Capital technology, we could finish the Chinese Communist Party and allow Lao-Beijing to overthrow them in 90 days.
unidentified		100 days.
unidentified		100 days.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So they're the ones that have been the aggressors.
		They're the ones that had war with us, and they're open about it.
		And unrestricted warfare, in the spectrum of unrestricted warfare, information warfare, cyber warfare, political warfare, and most importantly, economic warfare.
		And their part is political warfare and economic warfare, which Natalie Winters has gone out chapter and verse and shown you the infiltration here in the United States into the biggest institutions, the most powerful institutions, and this gets to the heart of what the Hunter Biden situation is.
		Joe Biden was looked at as an asset they wanted to control, and they're going to go through the drug-infested pervert son, right?
		But that was just an access point.
		But it gets to the heart of CEF and everybody that was associated with it.
		I knew this in the first 30 minutes of reading the documents.
		He had been all over New York society.
		Remember, he was with Schwarzman.
		He was not on the board of the Lincoln Center, but a huge donor to the Lincoln Center.
		He was on all the boards of the Asia Society.
		That's high society New York.
		This has infiltrated, let me repeat, it's infiltrated every aspect from Sequoia Capital.
		Sequoia Capital, you understand, is being investigated by the House Intelligence Committee as being a CCP front, Sequoia Capital.
		You know that.
		You're a CCP front out there.
		The top venture capital firm.
unidentified		On what?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Sand Hill Road out in California.
		Part of the, part of the, hello, wait for it, part of the buying group of Twitter.
		Along with Binance, right?
		And along with the CCP financed Tesla manufacturing shop, which they said, oh, we're going to take two weeks off over Christmas.
		Not one.
		I think it's a love tap to Elon Musk.
		Get your, you know, get get your focus here.
		And until Elon Musk allows any of the really anti-hardcore and take down the CCP, people will be back on.
		I don't see miles grow back on there.
		Hey, Miles Grove may not be your cup of tea, but he's done more than any individual world to cite exactly what the problem is and identify it here in the United States, and that's why they took him off Twitter.
		And that's what, wait for it, he ain't back on Twitter.
		Okay?
		They don't want this information out there.
		So Natalie, you've cut to the heart of it.
		The thing is, it's so big in scale.
		And so I just want to make sure when I leave you, because you're going to write this one up, because we got to take on the Carnegie Endowment, because they're emblematic of the insidious nature of what's happened here.
		And that piece just drove me crazy because they're trying to gaslight everybody.
		On the spectrum, remember, we've gone from, the thing is, cooperation, right, the accommodationists, a cooperation to competition, they're really a strategic competitor, that's what the Defense Department says now, to we're actually at war.
		Are they at war with us?
		We're not at war with them, they're at war with us.
		And everybody's frightened, running around, can the 7th Fleet stop them in the South China Sea?
		Can the 7th Fleet stop them in an invasion or air-naval blockade of Taiwan, Silicon Valley West, that we allowed to happen?
		So Natalie, on that spectrum, given the level of infiltration with good old cash money, What do you think has to happen to start to turn this around, and what would you like to see out of, you know, we're going to have a joint committee, but you don't have banks running it, you're going to have a joint committee on China in the new, you know, he promised that, that was one of McCarthy's promises, right?
		Now you don't have banks, you don't have the fire breather.
		But what would you like to see out of this Congress in its first couple weeks to show that we're serious about beginning to confront the Chinese Communist Party in its essential takeover of the United States of America, ma'am?
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		So when I first started doing my investigative reporting on CCP infiltration in the United States, I mean, I was 19 and I didn't really have any understanding of the scope of what was going on, right?
		I didn't come at it from this like meta worldview of I was going to uncover This very calculated multi-billion dollar effort to really penetrate every aspect of American society.
		So I just sort of went along doing it story by story, being able to pick out, you know, piece of information by piece of information.
		And there was so much information that it was really able to sustain my career to this day, right?
		We're going on two, three years now.
		And what my reporting has only been able really as a result of publicly available information Particularly through the Foreign Agent Registration Act.
		But there are a lot of groups.
		A lot of these groups are sanctioned by the Trump administration, so they don't operate as much now, which is something that when Trump wins again, he should definitely continue and reverse the Biden regime's reversal of those policies.
		But I think what we need to do, if you really want to get to the heart of it, these groups like the China United States Exchange Foundation, the Chinese People's Association for Friendship and Foreign Contact, all these very euphemistic sounding names, these innocuous sounding groups, They all have American lobbyists who work in D.C.
		And part of it is these think tanks, right, like the Carnegie Endowment.
		They certainly launder their talking points.
		But I'm talking specifically about lobbying shops who also work for big companies like, you know, Amazon and Microsoft and Google.
		But a lot of these Chinese influence groups also have American lobbyists.
		And what we should do is we should subpoena every single American who has lobbied or worked on behalf of one of these Chinese Communist Party influence groups for all information and materials relevant to who they help these groups liaise with, have meetings with, talk to, send over on free trips, subsidized trips to China, because what's available through FARA in this database Is 0.0001% of the entire story, right?
		Think about the Hunter Biden hard drive.
		That's maybe 1% of the entire story.
		And with what I've been able to uncover from Farah, I could only imagine with the power of the subpoena going after these people, with who they've helped connect with the Chinese Communist Party, who they have effectively sold out to the highest bidder, right?
		Get the documents that underwrite that footnote that show the managed decline of the United States, The way to cut through the noise, get the signal and actually get to the heart of this issue is to subpoena the Americans who have lobbied on behalf of these foreign influence groups and get the full list of names of people who have had ties to the Chinese Communist Party.
		And then from there, we'll go from there.
unidentified		But I think that's really how you do it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I dare anybody out there to show me three minutes of CNN over the last ten years, three minutes from MSNBC, From any of the major news broadcasts, and let's throw in Fox News, okay?
		That's a better, succinct summary of exactly where we are and what we should do than 22-year-old Natalie Winters.
		Natalie, what is your... 21.
unidentified		21.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The three years... Okay, got it, got it, got it.
		I don't want to... I don't want to... You're very... You're very... She's very precise in her numbers.
		Natalie, give me your... How do people get to you on social media?
		How do they follow you?
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Natalie G. Winters on all platforms.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Natalie Winters, thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Honored to have you on here this morning.
unidentified		Thank you, ma'am.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Since we're near, this is essential to everything going forward to make sure that we fully understand how the American ruling class and the elites believe and support in the managed decline of this country and how their partners of this are the Chinese Communist Party.
		I want to go something too, while we're in the market of busting narratives, I want to go to a Wall Street veteran, Ed Dowd.
		We've had Ed on here many times in the last couple of years.
		But Ed, your research keeps getting better.
		Walk me through your latest, sir, on breaking the narrative of the VACs.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
		No problem, Steve.
		Thanks for having me on again.
		My team and I are meeting today to discuss what I'm going to discuss today before we put it on our website, but the bottom line is this.
		There's a very distinct relationship between disabilities and the vaccine uptake.
		Since February of 21, the employed population of our country has been basically poisoned.
		That's what the numbers suggest.
		The correlation in the increase in disability rate is about 0.90 for 16 to 64 in the employed civilian labor force.
		It's less of a correlation for over 65.
		It's about 0.6.
		That makes sense because the disability rate of the civilian labor force is much lower.
		So What we're seeing is basically since the release of the vaccines, a huge increase in the disabilities, the disability rates of particularly the employed of the country.
		And the numbers just keep getting worse and worse, so we'll be dropping this stuff soon, probably today or tomorrow on our website, so people can read it and analyze it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Could there be any other, that's a pretty harsh, when you say poisoned the working population, that's a pretty tough charge.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Could there be anything else in your mind that could cause this correlation, sir?
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼		Sure, so obviously correlation is not causation, but in the absence of Any other explanation?
		At a base minimum, there's a health crisis in this country.
		Something's going on that's causing the employed of our country to experience disabilities at a much higher rate than the rest of the general population.
		So until someone can explain to me that there's a new virus that only goes out to the employed that work in corporations with mandates or mid-sized companies with mandates, I'd love to hear that and I'll definitely take that under consideration.
		But In my humble opinion, and I told Senator Ron Johnson this privately, this is a national security concern.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Bottom line.
		Ed, hang on one second.
		We're going to go back to Ed Dow.
		Let's crunch the numbers on this.
		We also have Dr. Paul Alexander about the biomedical security industry's coup against a sitting president.
		Yes, that president would be Donald J. Trump.
		Omics in the world.
unidentified		We rejoice when the low fall, let's take down the CCD!
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They have all lied for too long!
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb Okay, welcome back.
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		I want to go back, Dale, you're a Wall Street guy, right?
		You're an investor, you're a trader, because you guys are always looking for anomalies in the data.
		You first got attracted to this a couple of years ago, when we first started having you on the show, and your first thing was about the difference in the mortalities.
		I want you to go back about your original theory of the case, and what has been proven over time by the math, and then I want to go to these disabilities again before we lose you.
		So tell me about your original theory of the case on the on the increased mortality that you wrote the great book about for Tony Lyons and the team over at Skyhorse.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so, you know, what got me interested in this was the sudden athletic deaths and anecdotes in my friend's circle when the vaccine was introduced in 21.
		Statistically, if the vaccine was safe, I shouldn't be hearing about anything.
		That's a normal vaccine that's been vetted for seven to ten years normally before it's stuck in the arms of people.
		So, that got me interested.
		Dr. Malone came to the island.
		I became affiliated with him.
		He got my media profile up, and I told him and others I was going to look at the insurance data.
		I had a Wall Street analyst, Josh Sterling, help me analyze that.
		He's now public, doing his own thing, trying to get the insurance industry to admit there's a problem.
		In August of this year, all our numbers that we previewed on your show were Uh, ratified by the Society of Actuaries with their, uh, survey of the group-like policyholders, which showed 40% excess mortality for ages 25 through 64 in 2021 versus the general population of, uh, 32%.
		Why that's interesting is because the group-like policyholders have been proven in previous studies to be a much healthier population.
		They die in a normal non-pandemic year.
		They die at a 30 to 40% mortality rate of the general US population in any given year.
		That makes sense.
		They're employed.
		They're showing up to work.
		They're healthy.
		They have access to the best health care.
		They're educated, what have you.
		That flipped in 21, continues to flip in 2022.
		The millennials experienced a very big increase in the third quarter of 2021, an 84% spike when the mandates were introduced.
		That's come off subsequently.
		And as of Q2, their excess mortality in the group life subset, the site of actuary numbers, is 23%.
		Unfortunately, I have inside skinning on what might be coming up for the third quarter of this year.
		It looks like it may re-accelerate to 30% to 35%.
		The numbers aren't completely calculated, but that's what it looks like.
		So that's what got me interested.
		So then I hooked up with some guys from Portugal who were starting a hedge fund, PhD physicist.
		We've now looked at the data and basically every European country, the UK, Australia, obviously the US, and we're going to do Canada soon.
		And it's the same story.
		There was a mixed shift of excess mortality in 2020 to 2021 from old to young, and the disabilities is just an extension, our analysis.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But hang on a second.
		Even the deceleration in the number, in the increase in the number, Would somehow coincide because I want people to understand Denmark and certain countries that were the most adamant about everybody vaxxed and The big Wall Street firms who are in the information business.
		When you cut down Goldman Sachs and BlackRock and Morgan Stanley, their basic business is the information business.
		It's supposed to be to get it earlier and to be able to monetize it quicker and smartly.
		So I think Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley and other investment banks and people started to get away from the absolute ironclad mandatory vaccinations.
		They started to ease up somewhat on that.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs this summer quietly dispensed with their vaccine mandate.
		Made some headlines, but not a lot of fanfare.
		I know that Nomura Japanese bank has done the same thing, so it's quietly Uh, going on, on Wall Street.
		And you gotta remember Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs led the charge.
		They, they, uh, mandated vaccines ahead of the executive order in the summer of 2021.
		So they led corporate America.
		In fact, if you were a CEO of a company and wanted to raise capital and go into the offices of Morgan Stanley, uh, you couldn't enter their offices unless you were vaccinated.
		That's that's how draconian they were in 2021.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Have you noticed around the world, as this evidence is becoming irrefutable, that you're seeing the countries, whether it's England, Denmark, others, quietly, without a lot of fanfare, start to back off this?
		And even the Biden administration didn't put up a big fight.
		And a lot of the hardcore biomedical industry people on MSNBC were going nuts.
		They even put up a big fight on taking off the mandate for the military going forward.
		And if this was all supposed to be so life or death, they just kind of walked away from that.
		Ed Dell.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼		Denmark is the classic example.
		They were the most highly vaccinated countries.
		And as I was writing my book, Cause Unknown, my team and I were looking at the Denmark excess mortality.
		And it was such a disaster.
		They had excess mortality 21 and above 20, 22 above 21 in every age cohort.
		So it was devastating Denmark.
		And Denmark in September, while I was writing the book, banned the vaccine for under 50 and said, basically, it's better to get COVID than the vaccine, which is Orwellian doublespeak for your chances of living are better with the COVID virus than the vaccine itself.
		So that's what's going on.
		It's a quiet Homer Simpson backing into the hedgerow saying, doh.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The disability numbers, you will come out with those in the next couple of days after you talk to your team?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Either today or tomorrow.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼		So just to give you an idea of the number, I said on your show a couple of weeks ago, and to Senator Ron Johnson, it was about 1.2 million we had calculated as of September 22nd.
		It's now about 1.7 million starting in February of 21 through November of 22 1.7 million employed people have become disabled and That's a big number.
		That's a huge number and we're even looking at this in a different way We're looking at this relative to those not in the labor force those people those individuals who decided to get fired or leave their job and not take the VAX and And relative to that number, the change in disability rate, rate of new disabilities for the employed population is about 553% above not in labor force.
		And the civilian labor force is about 435% above not in labor force.
		So what we're doing is we're looking at those individuals who decided to pay attention to their health and leave and not work versus those who stayed employed.
		So I've been saying this ad nauseum for the last two months.
		It's been detrimental to your health.
		To be employed in 21 and 22, and I say that in my book as well, Cause Unknown.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Cause Unknown from Sky Horse.
		We can get it on Amazon and go to Sky Horse site.
		How do people follow you?
		By the way, if you're ever surprised every day you pick up the paper, died suddenly, died suddenly, these athletes, media figures, people in entertainment, died suddenly, heart attack, blood clot, huh?
		What?
		Read Cause Unknown by Ed Dowd.
		Ed, how do people follow you on social media?
		Because they got to, you're putting up great stuff all day long.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼		Bill Band on Twitter, on Getter, and Edward Dowd.
		I have a personal website, theyliedpeopledied.com.
		Also, you can check out the Humanity Project at Financetechnologies.com, spelled P-H-I rather than F, where we basically have all the evidence of all the crimes, and the disability data will be there soon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Ed, you're a hero and a patriot for this, and I hope the GIMP, Elon Musk, I call him the GIMP, I hope the GIMP understands, is not going to be taken real until Myles Guo, Ed Dowd, and other people up there are on Twitter non-stop.
		Thank you, sir.
		Honored to have you on here.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is why Tony Lyons is such a hero, printing his books.
		Okay, Dr. Paul Alexander, here's the question.
		You put forward your theory of the case is that Donald J. Trump was, now we know from Twitter, about the coup of the FBI and the national security state.
		And now you're starting to get the Fauci, you're going to start getting these dumps.
		But there are guys, Taibbi and these guys, who are good guys and working hard, but not really experts in this field.
		You make the case in your book that Donald J. Trump, there was a coup against him by the biomedical security apparatus in Washington, D.C.
		in Big Pharma.
		Is that correct?
		I just want to make sure I'm not putting words in your mouth.
		Is that correct?
		Is that your theory of the case?
unidentified		Yes.
dr paul alexander ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Steve.
		And the reality about it, and thanks again for having me on your show, Season's Greetings.
		The reality about it is Trump was on a fast track To re-election.
		We were seeing it in internal polls very early in 2020.
		Unstoppable.
		He was going to win more states, electoral votes, etc.
		But something happened post-March from those lockdowns and school closures.
		And what Fauci and Birx did was they extended them and they lengthened them.
		And they used that to damage his presidency and damage his re-election.
		And I worked with people there.
		And because I think it's because of my island background, they thought that I was a Democrat, really.
		They confided in me with things that were shocking to me, that they literally said that they worked at CDC, NIH, FDA, NIAID, the deep state, there really is one, a bureaucratic deep state, To work against Trump on a day-to-day basis, to make his messaging ungovernable, unmanageable and devastating.
		And they did it.
		President Trump was not re-elected.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you, March is when they came with the lockdowns, you had the big Berks.
unidentified		Yes.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And you've had Kushner's book come out and you've had Pence's book come out.
		As you've read those two books compared to yours, where are the differences?
		Because you make a case that Fauci and Berks were connected at the hip on this.
		Since they reported to Pence and to Kushner, who kind of give glowing reviews of these two, why are you the outlier in this?
dr paul alexander ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the reality about it is I had a different view than most.
		Remember, I was working at HHS.
		Fauci and Redfield, Hahn, they all had sub-offices in my building, and they all traipsed in and out of my bosses' offices daily.
		So I had privilege.
		I mean, there are things that I could never speak about, but I had the privilege of listening on many of their conversations.
		And I can tell the fight by president Trump against Fauci and books against the CDC.
		President Trump was fighting the CDC and the teachers unions behind the scenes, literally to open schools because of the deaths, the suicides and young kids that we were seeing rolling up to the States and Fauci and books comes back.
		Remember Steve, I was actually mocked to be fired by Fauci and his team because I wrote to the NIH and Fauci that you are flat wrong.
		You are wrong to keep schools closed.
		You are wrong to mask kids.
		And the message came back to me through Washington that we are going to fire you.
		We are going to cut your nuts off for going after Fauci.
		The real fight was between me and Fauci behind the scenes.
		I was waging that to score at us.
		against Fauci and the NIH and CDC.
		Yes, it was a battle.
		President Trump is not president today because of the lockdowns and school closures that Fauci and Birx maintained, prolonged, and ensured.
		They worked against him.
		Birx said that in her book.
		She said, I slow walk data.
		I withheld data.
		This must be investigated by Jim Jordan, by Senator Johnson.
		These people must be.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Alexander, hang on.
		We're going to take a short commercial break.
		We're going to bring back Dr. Paul Alexander.
		He's written a book that's pretty explosive about a coup that took place with the biomedical security apparatus to make sure that Donald J. Trump was defeated in the 2020 election and removed from office.
		We're going to return in a moment with Dr. Paul Alexander.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I want everybody on Getter, particularly this coming holiday weekend, full immersive experience, a lot going on in the Vatican, the Pope, Pope Benedict de Zil.
		We have Brazil, a lot going on in Brazil.
		Matthew Tierman and myself will be up on this on Getter.
		We'll be back here tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock.
		The book is Presidential Takedown.
		How Anthony Fauci, the CDC, NIH, and the WHO conspired to overthrow President Trump.
		We got about five or six minutes here, Dr. Alexander.
		There was a meeting in March that both the Kushner book and particularly the Pence book, and Pence was head of the task force, talked about in the Oval Office where they presented at least one chart to convince President Trump to do the lockdowns.
		To your knowledge and to your direct knowledge, was there other analysis done that you would believe if presented to President Trump at that moment in mid-March?
		Would have convinced him that the lockdowns were not necessary at the time, because remember the lockdowns to flatten the curve were about ICU.
		Capacity of ICU beds throughout the country.
		I think there are a hundred thousand beds ICU.
		It was to make sure that we had capacity to handle other diseases and wouldn't overwhelm the medical system.
		Do you have direct knowledge?
		There was other data at the time that should have been presented to president Trump that would have actually told him, Hey, maybe we shouldn't do this.
dr paul alexander ▲ ● ▼		Thanks Steve.
		Once again, listen, from what I understand and what I knew, president Trump's gut feelings, gut, His own thinking was not to lock down, not to close anything.
		But you see, here's the key that the public needs to understand.
		President Trump also understood from an optics point of view that he's not a doctor and he's not a scientist.
		Very smart, brilliant guy.
		Wharton educated.
		Brilliant.
		The problem though is for him to stand against what the scientists were telling him.
		And that was his problem.
		His problem was he was going to go against Fauci and Birx that he inherited.
		So he trusted them.
		That's a very important thing.
		He trusted their counsel, and he gave them the lead on the lockdowns.
		And that hurt him, that trust, because of the reality, Steve, is this.
		Very early on, maybe two weeks out from the lockdowns, we had data accumulating across the world that the asymptomatic transmission statements were a lie.
		We had data showing us that COVID was amenable to risk stratification, with a 1,000-fold difference in risk between 85-year-old Granny and 10-year-old Johnny.
		We knew at that point that the mortality rate was not 3.4% that Tedros at WHO had said to spook the world.
		We knew the infection fatality rate was already below 1%.
		So we knew it was at seasonal influenza or even below.
		And the reality about it is they spooked Trump principally, Steve, With the flawed, fraud PCR test.
		It is that PCR test with those infections daily that they were putting up on those charts on the task force podium that was spooking Trump and spooking all of us because they were showing us infection.
		But they knew that the PCR was over cycled over 24, 25.
		Once you cycle that test and it's a process, it's not a test over 24, you are going to get up as much as 95% False positive.
		I am trying to tell the American people Fauci and Birx locked the society down in 2020 and parts of 2021 with 95% of you who were taken out of the workforce, taken out of schools, businesses shut down.
		That's why so many committed suicide.
		It was false positives.
		That's the issue.
		It must be investigated.
		They knew.
		They knew they were defrauding Trump with that fraud PCR test.
		Because today, John Ioannidis at Stanford shows that the infection fatality is 0.05 per person 70 and below.
		We should have never, ever, ever locked the society down.
		We had early treatments.
		We had effective treatments.
		The McCollum they were telling Trump, telling them, this is what will work.
		Do not lock the society.
		Open up.
		Protect the vulnerable.
		Protect granny nursing home.
		Protect her.
unidentified		Yes.
dr paul alexander ▲ ● ▼		But let the rest of society live freely.
		No school closures.
		Listen, Sweden, Sweden operated with zero.
		School closures, zero masks for all their children and not one death.
		Not one.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Targeted interventions for those that had comorbidities.
		One last thing we've harped on.
		I want to hear from you.
		The chart they put up was a mortality chart on projections.
		And one of the things we kept hammering on is that they were going to the University of Washington, Seattle, they were going to, I think, Southampton University in England, and they were going to Hong Kong.
		Many, and I think Johns Hopkins, people were putting up their own modeling.
		And I kept asking, is this like a company?
		Why don't I see Fauci's model?
		Why don't I see Birx's model?
		Why don't we see CDC?
		I'd like to see the government's model, not their assessment of this kind of blended, like a RealClearPolitics poll.
		We only got a minute.
		Did you ever see, by firsthand, any internal modeling that they actually did on their own that was different from just taking compilations or looking at third-party modeling on mortality, sir?
dr paul alexander ▲ ● ▼		No.
		And the thing is, Burke said in her book, we knew once we got Trump to bite for the first two weeks, we got him.
		We know we'll get him to extend.
		Once he closes down, it's over.
		They knew what they were doing.
		And you are correct.
		There's no government modeling.
		These people are the most inept people.
		Non-consequential.
		I don't understand how they got to the positions, Fauci and Birx, that they did to lead this pandemic.
		And they were depending on the imperial modeling.
		These are corrupted, man-made, bogus political models meant to deceive the public.
		Steve, no lockdown in the United States and the world.
		No school closure.
		We did the science.
		We did the research.
		Every single thing Fauci and Birx, and that task force, it failed.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Alexander, we've got a bolt.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		How do people get to the book and how do they get to you on social media, sir?
dr paul alexander ▲ ● ▼		Well, the book is at Amazon, similar to Ed Dowd, etc.
		It's called Presidential Takedown.
		You can get it at Amazon.
		How Fauci et al.
		worked to topple President Trump.
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		I'm supporting the wellnesscompany.health right now.
		And you could also find me at drpaulalexander.com.
		Steve, once again, say hello to Vish and your team.
		Merry Christmas.
		Thank you, sir.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Dr. Paul Alexander, hero and patriot.
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