Dec. 28, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on this, people. | |
| You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Left in limbo again. | ||
| That's how many in the migrant community may be feeling this morning. | ||
| At the Supreme Court, decided to keep in place the pandemic-era border policy known as Title 42. | ||
| Enacted during the height of the pandemic, it allows border officials to deny asylum seekers entry into the United States due to public health concerns. | ||
| Meanwhile, the recent flood of migrants continue to overwhelm America's border cities. | ||
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We've seen this move. | |
| We've seen a jump in the wages, particularly at the lower income end of the spectrum, which is great news. | ||
| But this goes with what economists call rightly mismatch, that we don't have enough of the right kinds of workers in the right places, we have shortages. | ||
| Just as you were discussing with Peggy a moment ago, I think immigration is the simplest, fastest, cleanest, most beneficial answer to this. | ||
| And we could do so much more in the Biden administration, frankly, it's been a disappointment following on the Trump administration. | ||
| But it's 25, 30 years, as I've documented, among others, have documented that the immigration rate's been falling in the US. | ||
| The other point, sorry to go on so long, but this is the core issue. | ||
| If productivity was growing faster, then you could substitute other things for labor and you wouldn't be so short of it. | ||
| But the fact that we keep adding labor just to grow at the rate we're growing suggests that productivity is, if anything, going down. | ||
| And so you could have wage increases at the expense of capital, at the expense of profits, and that would be fine as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| But it's not happening because workers don't have the bargaining power, even in this cycle. | ||
| So, right now, the shortage of labor is bad news for productivity, bad news for growth. | ||
| So, Adam, let's come back to the simplest, cleanest way to do it, is to have immigration. | ||
| That may be for an economist. | ||
| It doesn't appear to be the simplest and easiest and cleanest for a politician. | ||
| I'm not sure I've heard, out of the Biden administration, a clear explanation of immigration from an economics point of view. | ||
| And could that actually drive us to a more rational immigration policy? | ||
| I wish it would. | ||
| I wish there were people in the cabinet and President Biden's hearing who would stand up for immigration. | ||
| And what we see is just repeatedly, the Biden administration is, I think, somewhat ashamed of their immigration policy in part, because it is in many ways just as barbaric as the Trump one and just as self-defeating economically. | ||
| So at least the Biden administration isn't standing up and lying and saying by restricting immigration, we're making everyone better off because all the evidence says that's false. | ||
| But there's no reason we can't be taking in more people. | ||
| We should be taking in refugees, but we should be taking in agricultural workers, we should be taking in service and healthcare workers. | ||
| If native-born and long-term migrants here's reservation wage has gone up, then there's more room for us to take in people who are willing to work at a lower wage just for the sake of being in the U.S. | ||
| And this wouldn't cost the low-income people who've already switched jobs and moved up and gotten higher wages. | ||
| We have a shortage there. | ||
| Similarly, as I know you've covered on Balanced Power, David, Silicon Valley manufacturing, various R&D places, we don't have the skilled workers. | ||
| So they keep saying the politics is that. | ||
| I hate to think that a few people in West Virginia and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin determined the fate of the society and that they're impervious to economic logic at some point. | ||
| While Americans are freezing and stranded at airports and at the side of frozen highways, Joe Biden has his rump in the sand in the Caribbean. | ||
| Dozens dead, millions of Americans without power, and those who have it are paying through the nose for heat because of Joe Biden's war on American energy. | ||
| Didn't the left and the media try to destroy Ted Cruz over going to Cancun during a storm? | ||
| I haven't heard a peep about Joe's trip. | ||
| The media only cares when it's a Republican. | ||
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| It's Wednesday, 28 December in the year of our Lord 2022. | ||
| We are pretty packed today, but we're going to start with this crisis from the Supreme Court to the To the southern border the invasion and right there. | ||
| We want to make sure you play so because the warm audience is always ahead of things. | ||
| This has been a kind of a an academic discussion on the side, but it's about to come front and center right there. | ||
| You see Posner a left-wing progressive economist just bald face lie to you just a bald face lies, but you're going to see it the invasion. | ||
| So everybody's got to understand this. | ||
| And you saw the way MSNBC tees it up, is that this is making the illegal alien invaders uncomfortable. | ||
| I'm not demonizing these people. | ||
| They're making a logical decision. | ||
| When you're welcome to the United States, why would you not make a jailbreak and run for it from Central America, from Latin America, from all over the world? | ||
| The issue is our asylum program has nothing to do with economic migrants. | ||
| It just does not. | ||
| Otherwise, you're going to have four billion of the eight billion people on earth that say, hey, look, I think I would like the United States think I got a better deal there. | ||
| It's all about. | ||
| Their discomfort, not about citizens of this country. | ||
| We're going to go to El Paso, Texas with Anthony Aguero in a moment and talk about what the citizens there, because quite frankly, if the citizens keep voting in these radical Democrats in the Southern border, hey, it's just like the kids in in college of the University of Michigan kids and all the Penn State kids are all going to go on election day and change your registration and vote for these left-wing Democrats. | ||
| What the lack of economic opportunity that you have is you're voting for it, baby. | ||
| So own it. | ||
| This is now, it's beyond a crisis, obviously an invasion. | ||
| And of course, Biden could care less. | ||
| He's down in the Caribbean, hanging out with billionaires, right? | ||
| Doing their bidding. | ||
| But we're going to go. | ||
| We got, we're very honored. | ||
| We got Todd Bensman, who is going to be down there, as you said yesterday, down there, but it's a little hang up because of the travel. | ||
| We got Bensman. | ||
| We also have, we're honored to have Marko Kurinska join us this second, because he put it all in perspective yesterday. | ||
| He told you they're looking for a mass amnesty. | ||
| Here's what the economists, and this is why it's so important, what we just played in the cold open. | ||
| They're going to equate the solution for inflation that they caused. | ||
| The solution is mass immigration and a mass amnesty on top of it, because that's the only thing that's going to take down immigration, is to break the backs of African-American and Hispanic-American, the lower skilled wages. | ||
| And no offense, if you keep voting for it, they're going to keep, if African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans keep voting for radical Democrats, you ought to look at the fine print. | ||
| Because right there in their academic think tanks, they're coming for you. | ||
| And they're pretty open and brazen about it. | ||
| So now they're going to sit there and gaslight us and say, this is the solution, this bad inflation, this terrible inflation. | ||
| We don't know how this got here. | ||
| But the problem is that working class blacks and working class Hispanics, they're making too much money. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| And the solution is let's just open the southern border. | ||
| And then we're going to have a mass amnesty. | ||
| And they'll all be citizens. | ||
| Oh, can they vote? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We didn't know. | ||
| Yeah, they can vote too. | ||
| Right? | ||
| This is the destruction of the country in full display. | ||
| And finally, the Supreme Court said yesterday, and it's not really a solution. | ||
| They're just kicking the can down the road a little bit. | ||
| Now they're going to demand oral arguments. | ||
| They're actually going to step up and actually have this. | ||
| And hey, bad news for the Libertarians. | ||
| My guy, right? | ||
| I was on the committee. | ||
| Gorsuch. | ||
| It was 5-4, ladies and gentlemen, and that's including Roberts. | ||
| That's including Roberts. | ||
| We didn't get Gorsuch. | ||
| We're gonna have Mike Davis, we're gonna try to track him down maybe tomorrow to get Davis on here. | ||
| Let's start with Todd Bensman. | ||
| Todd... | ||
| Oral arguments in February, and probably not an opinion or a judgment until June, which traditionally happens, particularly on the controversial ones, because they want to drop those and get out of town. | ||
| Tell us what's happened now on Title 42, because it was supposed to be pulled last night, and I think cooler heads over the Supreme Court go, uh, this looks like an invasion to us. | ||
| Maybe we ought to just settle this thing down. | ||
| Todd Bensman. | ||
| Well, it's good news, bad news. | ||
| On the one hand, it looks like Title 42 will remain in place until at least June. | ||
| We're hearing June, but who knows, really. | ||
| I mean, this thing's been a rollercoaster ever since they started talking about killing it off. | ||
| And that's going to hold back a certain number, particularly Central Americans who are still being targeted by it. | ||
| On the other hand, Uh, it was already kind of, its demise was sort of built, baked into the cake because they, the administration had reduced the number of people that was pushing back to about 30%, 31%. | ||
| Stop right there. | ||
| Stop right there. | ||
| All the gutless Republicans, McCarthy, you want to step up right now and say, hey, starting on January 3rd, we're going to demand you go back to 100%. | ||
| You have to go to 100%. | ||
| Right now, it's a joke anyway. | ||
| Only 30% are being held back because of the health crisis. | ||
| In El Paso, they're not even doing anything. | ||
| We're going to get to Aguero in a second. | ||
| That's an open city. | ||
| It looks like a city under siege. | ||
| So Todd, this has kind of been a scam as you, as only CIS has been putting forward every day, that this thing is kind of a joke anyway because only 30%, it's only been enforced against 30% of the economic migrants which don't have any asylum claims. | ||
| Let me repeat that, no asylum claims for economic migrants. | ||
| This is a scam, and they're trying to justify it now, but it's going to help us because it's going to make inflation go away magically. | ||
| Wave the magic wand. | ||
| Let 11 million people in here. | ||
| Give them citizenship. | ||
| Magically, inflation goes away. | ||
| How can we stop? | ||
| How can we go from 30% to 100% Todd Bensman? | ||
| Well, you really can't. | ||
| You can ask the administration to Apply the policy to a greater extent. | ||
| But I mean, this is a lever that goes right to the Oval Office through Mayorkas. | ||
| So there's only so much you can do. | ||
| I mean, what's going to happen is, remember, even with Title 42 in place at 50% pushbacks and 60% pushbacks, you still had the greatest mass migration crisis in American history happen. | ||
| And that was with it at 30% Uh, you know, you still are going to have chaos and pandemonium from one end of the border to the other. | ||
| People crossing through seven days a week on the conveyor belt to American cities, all American cities. | ||
| Uh, that is not going to change. | ||
| It's still going to be pandemonium. | ||
| Uh, one thing that the administration, another thing that they could do, but won't do is, uh, prosecute those who are subject to Title 42 who are coming over anyway, or anybody. | ||
| Prosecuting under 1325, but the administration under the law that makes it a federal misdemeanor to illegally cross the border, but the administration ended. | ||
| Ended 1325 prosecutions two years ago, and there's almost none of that happening anymore. | ||
| No, because they want an invasion. | ||
| That's obvious. | ||
| Hang on for one second, Todd. | ||
| Just hang right there. | ||
| I want to bring in Mark Recorian, and if we can get the New York Post pieced up. | ||
| Mark, tell us, you yesterday put up an amazing piece in the New York Post about the mass invasion or the mass migration is going to lead to mass amnesty. | ||
| Walk us through what you meant by that. | ||
| Well, the administration is saying, look, We're not really at fault because of this, you know, because of this disaster at the border, which they still don't acknowledge as a crisis. | ||
| What they're saying is the real solution is, and the Republicans are stopping us from the real solution, which is amnestying everybody and doubling legal immigration and gutting enforcement, which is what this bill that they introduced at the beginning of the administration. | ||
| They introduced a bill, U.S. | ||
| Citizenship Act. | ||
| Which was so radical that even the sponsor in the Senate, Bob Menendez, Senator Menendez, Democrat from New Jersey, even he said, yeah, well, this isn't going anywhere. | ||
| And it was so radical, Nancy Pelosi wouldn't even bring it up for a vote. | ||
| And yet, the administration is pointing to that as the solution to the border crisis. | ||
| It's, I mean, it's, it, chutzpah doesn't even begin to describe it. | ||
| Give me, we got about a minute. | ||
| Give me 30 seconds on how radical was the U.S. | ||
| Citizens Act that they're pointing to now. | ||
| It would amnesty everybody who arrived three weeks before Biden's inauguration. | ||
| And look, I'm kind of sometimes a squish on amnesty. | ||
| If people have lived here a really long time and if we can get something in exchange for it, that's a separate discussion. | ||
| But amnesty people who just arrived three weeks before the bill was introduced? | ||
| It's ludicrous. | ||
| It would also double legal immigration. | ||
| And this was the first bill really like this, so-called comprehensive immigration reform, that didn't even pretend to have any significant Enforcement balance to it. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| I got Kerkorian. | ||
| I got Bensman. | ||
| I got Anthony Aguero. | ||
| I got Steve Cortez. | ||
| I've got murderers. | ||
| I've got the 27 Yankees of the problem with immigration. | ||
| Remember, AOC did not vote for the Ombuds. | ||
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Why? | |
| She said that even had too much border security and too much sending folks home. | ||
| That's how radical she is. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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back in a moment. | |
| I want to make sure I want to make sure this audience because you're the cadre At the tip of the spear. | ||
| Remember, in the second hour, we're going to be talking about the collapse of the narrative on the VAX, and we're going to do it for two days. | ||
| Today, we're going to have Dr. Paul Alexander, we're going to have Ed Dowd, the former BlackRock hedge fund manager, one of the managers and portfolio managers with Tony Lyons. | ||
| We're going to talk about the math. | ||
| Natalie Winters is going to join us, and tomorrow we're going to have Naomi Wolf and Dr. Malone. | ||
| But that $50 million, that said we're not going to be VAXed, you were the hardened cadre on that. | ||
| OK, just like you have to be the hardened cadre here on cadre formation, we call it, on this invasion of the southern border because – and we've got Cortez who's going to come up in a minute to talk about Larry Fink and now Larry Fink's partnering with Zelensky in Ukraine, not making it up, being reported in the news, CNBC. | ||
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And so we have to get ahead of this. | |
| Just like the debt ceiling and all of this. | ||
| You have to get ahead of it. | ||
| Mark Krikorian, you're probably, and look, to call yourself a Squish, you have different ideas on amnesty than the Cortezes and the Bannons of the world, but that's okay. | ||
| You're still the big brain in this space. | ||
| I want to ask you about this immigrant, because they're gaslighting you now. | ||
| I want to ask you point blank as the guy that runs the organization that probably in the world does the best job on this. | ||
| This issue they're bringing up on that the mass invasion, mass immigration, and ultimately the amnesty, is the solution across the board for inflation, sir? | ||
| Yeah, that's absurd. | ||
| First of all, inflation wasn't caused by blue-collar workers making more money. | ||
| It's caused by excessive government spending, bad energy policy, what have you. | ||
| That's where it actually matters. | ||
| But we ran the numbers on this. | ||
| And what we found was that, first of all, blue-collar workers don't make up that big a share of the economy. | ||
| In other words, their result is a lot of people, but their portion of GDP isn't that great. | ||
| So, if nothing else changes, and you cut every blue-collar worker's wages by 10%, everyone, all 10% cut, which even a big amount of immigration wouldn't do, you'd only reduce prices something like 2%. | ||
| And this is a theoretical thing because none of that could happen. | ||
| The actual result on inflation of massive increases in immigration would be essentially, for all practical purposes, zero. | ||
| That economist that you showed who was saying that, you know, we don't have enough people, blue-collar workers, what have you, the point he's not making is that the share of working-age people who are not working or looking for work is the lowest it's been in ages. | ||
| We calculated that if we got what's called the labor force participation rate, in other words, what share of the working age, able-bodied people are actually working. | ||
| If we got that rate back to where it was just in 2000, there'd be 6 million extra people in the workforce. | ||
| That's where we have to focus our efforts, getting our citizens Back into the world of work, not just importing people from abroad to replace them. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Let's put a pin on that. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, that is golden right there. | ||
| That is going to be one of the massive fights coming forward on this whole thing. | ||
| Cortez, is Brother Kerkorian right or is the economist Posner over at Bloomberg? | ||
| Is he correct? | ||
| Which one, sir? | ||
| Brother Kerkorian is 100% correct. | ||
| We are living in an era right now, Steve, of 20 consecutive months of declining real wages in the United States under Joe Biden, meaning your income adjusted for inflation, the cost of the goods and services you need for your life. | ||
| So American workers are literally working harder to get poorer every month for 20 months straight, the longest streak in all of American history. | ||
| In that environment, in this environment, the worst possible idea, economically speaking, is to then import millions of new workers to compete unjustly and illegally in the labor market against American citizens, further depressing wages and causing this Stagnation this crisis in real wages to even exacerbate, you know The answer from the ruling class so-called experts is always more immigration almost no matter what the question is The answer is more immigration both legal and illegal. | ||
| Let me tell you one thing Steve I think their answer would be very different If these workers coming in were replacing tenured economists at universities and think tanks, if they were replacing TV pundits, okay, and if they were replacing portfolio managers at places like BlackRock, that border would be sealed in a New York second. | ||
| Hermetically sealed. | ||
| Hermetically sealed. | ||
| But they frankly don't care because they're competing against blue-collar people and in large part the ruling class, unfortunately, is isolated and protected from the actual effects of this immigration, this mass migration, which they so constantly push. | ||
| This is the realignment of politics we're talking about. | ||
| As long as you back those policies, they're gonna crush you. | ||
| This is the realignment. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's why these Republicans, the 18 collaborators, are part of that neoliberal, neocon central apparatus and thoughts. | ||
| By the way, they gave you a love tap. | ||
| Posner gave you a love tap on the way out. | ||
| He talked about legal immigration. | ||
| Just give me your thoughts on that before I go back to Kerkorian. | ||
| He gave you a tap. | ||
| Hey, not only that, we got Silicon Valley, every high value added job. | ||
| Instead of having the education system and the technical training systems focus on getting these kids up to speed. | ||
| So we have African Americans in Silicon Valley. | ||
| We have Hispanic Americans in Silicon Valley. | ||
| Nope, don't want to do that. | ||
| Easier just to import the world and let these people just suck on low value added jobs. | ||
| Am I correct in that, Cortez? | ||
| You're exactly correct. | ||
| And that is unfortunately the very real plan of the left. | ||
| And the corporate media wants us to believe That this is some conspiracy that we concocted in the fever swamps, you know, of the far right on the internet, right? | ||
| The reality is, okay, replacement theory of workers is very real. | ||
| This is the expressed plan of the ruling class and of the left in this country. | ||
| It is the reality. | ||
| And by the way, to that point, Steve, that you make it, and it's an excellent one, about blue-collar workers, many of whom are minorities in this country, suffering disproportionately the effects of unfettered migration. | ||
| I would ask them to pay attention to somebody who is revered in the African-American community, and that is Barack Obama. | ||
| He's somebody that I don't often cite and that I don't often quote on War Room, but I'd like to do it today, because to your point about the fact that these are economic migrants, that they are not deserving of the refugee and asylum generosity of the United States, if we can put up chart number two, I'd like to read just quickly a quote from what he said, Barack Obama, in 2014 about these refugees, and of course the situation wasn't nearly as dire then as it is now. | ||
| He said quote typically refugee status is not granted just based on economic need or because of family lives in a bad neighborhood or poverty It is defined fairly narrowly the state for example That was targeting political activists and they need to get out of the country for fear of prosecution or even death That is from Barack Obama who actually recognized as radical as he was he recognized the reality Okay And the practicality of the fact that the United States has a very narrow system for asylum properly | ||
| so that does not extend to economic migrants. | ||
| But unfortunately, his lackey, Joe Biden, has no such recognition of that reality. | ||
| Denver, I want you to keep that up. | ||
| I want to bring in Kerkorian, disembodied, just his voice. | ||
| Kerkorian, looking at that quote, This administration has just tossed the asylum system away. | ||
| Obama actually defended it, right there. | ||
| That is in black letters, right there. | ||
| Exactly what it is. | ||
| There is no system. | ||
| Go ahead, sir. | ||
| Why are we letting the media, and even the conservative media, is not on top of this? | ||
| You know, the Breitbart guys are, but a lot of the conservative media is kind of in the mumble tank in this thing, sir. | ||
| Yeah, I'm yearning for the good old days of Obama's immigration policy. | ||
| I mean, it's really that bad. | ||
| And you know, the thing is, Asylum is the weakness of immigration policy, not just here but even in Europe, because it was designed a lifetime ago to apply to the occasional Russian ballerina who was defecting. | ||
| What it's turned into now in the modern world is this way to basically just make an end run around the immigration system and just ignore it. | ||
| Asylum has to fundamentally be changed. | ||
| This quote from Obama is right, is true technically, but the problem is, asylum has been turned by judges and activists into this gaping hole in the border. | ||
| And we need to fundamentally change it in law next time we actually have a majority in Congress and a president, because asylum cannot be allowed to continue this way. | ||
| Otherwise, we have no... When you say we need to change the law, don't we just have to enforce the asylum laws right now? | ||
| They're on the books. | ||
| Don't the republics have to sit there? | ||
| This is why they took the gavel. | ||
| This is why Nancy Pelosi is the speaker for another year. | ||
| This is one of the top topics. | ||
| They understood. | ||
| We were prepared to say, guess what? | ||
| No money for DHS until we get you to the table to do this. | ||
| Can't the Republicans right now try to force the issue immediately? | ||
| Otherwise, they're going to still let the invasion go on, and they're going to come with a mass amnesty. | ||
| Mark Kirkorian? | ||
| I think we need to lower our expectations on what the Republicans are going to be able to do, even if we wanted them. | ||
| Even if McCarthy were really committed to this issue. | ||
| What can they do with control of one House of Congress? | ||
| And remember, they have a four or five vote majority in the House. | ||
| All you need is four or five squishes to vote for the Democrats, and then you're out of luck. | ||
| So my point is not that they're powerless, but we need to be realistic about what they're going to be able to do in the next two years. | ||
| The fact is, we've got to win elections. | ||
| And only then are we going to be able to actually make changes that are necessary. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| This didn't stop. | ||
| I'm not buying that. | ||
| It didn't stop Nancy Pelosi from ruling. | ||
| She had the same majority and she ruled with an iron fist. | ||
| What would be your two or three things? | ||
| We're going to go to break in a second. | ||
| Give me the two or three things you would want the Republicans to do today. | ||
| What they need to do is tell DHS, you know, for instance, DHS Secretary, you get no money. | ||
| Until you start complying with the law specifically, the requirement that everyone who sneaks across the border is detained. | ||
| That's in the law, and they're ignoring it. | ||
| The second thing is, they need to put in law restrictions on what's called parole. | ||
| It's not criminal parole. | ||
| In immigration, it means the president gets to let in whoever he wants. | ||
| That needs to be narrowed. | ||
| Otherwise, you have no border, like we have today. | ||
| Mark, what's your social media? | ||
| How do people get to you and your writings? | ||
| I'm on Twitter at Mark S. as in Stephen. | ||
| Mark S. Krikorian, if you like snark and sarcasm. | ||
| And we're online at CIS.org. | ||
| CIS is the best. | ||
| We're going to take a break. | ||
| Ben's on the other side. | ||
| Cortez, Aguilar. | ||
| Mark, thank you. | ||
| Comes a little hot on Twitter. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
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| Subject to some, obviously, issues with travel all over the country. | ||
| So we'll hopefully get your reports from the field in the next couple of days. | ||
| But before you bounce, pick up from Krikorian. | ||
| What else can be done and must be done now? | ||
| And don't matter how hard it is. | ||
| I know all this stuff is hard. | ||
| Because the apparatus wants an invasion of the country. | ||
| They want another 10 or 20 million illegal aliens here, right? | ||
| They'll put them on the payroll of the federal government. | ||
| This is why you got the deficits. | ||
| They hope they all vote. | ||
| They assume they're all going to vote Democrat, right? | ||
| And they're going to crush working class. | ||
| And working class blacks and Spanx, if you keep voting for it, they're going to keep doing it. | ||
| Just like the college kids. | ||
| You keep voting for it, you're going to keep getting it. | ||
| You're going to get it with the bark on, okay? | ||
| So either listen to us, Or go about and do it the way that you think is best, right? | ||
| I used to be a hard head when I was that age. | ||
| Go ahead and do it. | ||
| But don't come back and whine to me, as my mom used to say, don't come back here and whine to me when the inevitable happens. | ||
| Todd Bensman. | ||
| Well, it's long overdue for the Republican controlled house or Republican controlled Congress To put forward a bill to amend the 1980 Refugee Act that established the asylum system as law. | ||
| There needs to be changes there. | ||
| The main change is that if you pass through another country that is a safe country first, you have to apply for asylum there, or you are ineligible to apply for it in the United States. | ||
| That should fix that problem. | ||
| And I haven't seen any Republicans. | ||
| There needs to be hearings on that. | ||
| There has to be hearings on the asylum system to raise its profile to a national stage. | ||
| They're not going to get a change, obviously, with the split chambers like this. | ||
| But the other thing is that there are a couple of legal loopholes that are problems. | ||
| Just look it up. | ||
| Google the Flores loophole. | ||
| With an S at the end, the Flores Settlement Loophole, which caps how long we can detain families with kids to under 21 days. | ||
| They mad rush this thing every chance they get, every chance they get. | ||
| Whatever we do with the asylum system, they'll mad rush that too. | ||
| There needs to be prosecutions for illegal crossings again. | ||
| There has to be a restoration. | ||
| You don't have stones with Abbott. | ||
| You've got all these guys that give you the mumbly mumbly, right? | ||
| They're going to do this, they're going to do this. | ||
| Nothing happens. | ||
| No action. | ||
| This is where we've got to be all over. | ||
| McCarthy and these guys want leadership, then be leaders. | ||
| And this is what is the bare minimum that needs to be done. | ||
| We're going to get into in a second. | ||
| We've got a hammer of leverage. | ||
| It's called the death ceiling. | ||
| And the debt ceiling's got a waterfall of how stuff gets paid, like the debt and the interest and all that gets paid, and then strolls down, and hey, guess what? | ||
| Uh, all this crap that's going to the border, uh, sorry, no money. | ||
| Zero money. | ||
| Then everybody goes home. | ||
| There's no money, they're gonna go home. | ||
| Where they should go. | ||
| They should go home. | ||
| And look, I'm not demonizing these people. | ||
| These people are making a logical decision based on the ruling class of this country. | ||
| Not just inviting them in. | ||
| Tell them, hey, you better get in now because this is not going to last forever because these bad Republicans, these mean Republicans, these barbarians, what are they called? | ||
| Barbarian policies like Cortez and Bannon and Navarro, these barbarians, all these bad people over CIS. | ||
| Benzman, you're going to be on the road. | ||
| We want to stay in touch. | ||
| Obviously, you're going down to the heart of Mexico to cover this on the ground, as only you can do. | ||
| Give us your social media. | ||
| How can we follow you? | ||
| Follow me at tbenzmangetter, at Getter. | ||
| Todd Benzman, Truth Social. | ||
| And I'm on Twitter, BenzmanTodd, at Twitter. | ||
| Uh, where, uh, somehow I managed to get verified for the first time in five years, uh, under Elon Musk. | ||
| Did you, did you pay, did you pay eight bucks for that? | ||
| You paying eight bucks a month? | ||
| I did. | ||
| I did. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, don't, don't, don't give me, I don't know how I got verified. | ||
| Hey, I had to call my brother, Todd Bensman out. | ||
| I can't believe you're paying eight bucks. | ||
| I can't believe you're paying eight bucks a month. | ||
| Well, I don't know how long I'll keep that up, but they freed me under the mask a little bit. | ||
| Hold it. | ||
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Hold it. | |
| This is a guy that's got a book coming out. | ||
| Got a book coming. | ||
| I got to get that book checked. | ||
| Benzman, we love you. | ||
| CIS doing a great job. | ||
| Corcoran's piece in The Post. | ||
| He's telling you it's going to be mass amnesty. | ||
| That's what they're coming for. | ||
| That's what they're coming for. | ||
| So, Todd Benzman, thank you. | ||
| Safe travels. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
| And we'll be checking in tomorrow and Friday. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Benzman's the best. | ||
| Got a book coming out in February too. | ||
| Overrun. | ||
| Amazing book. | ||
| Should have been out before the, the publisher should have put it out before the election. | ||
| Let me go to Anthony Aguero down in El Paso. | ||
| Anthony, are the good citizens of El Paso, because this, let me be blunt, this is not going to change until the citizens of El Paso demand a change. | ||
| Once they demand a change, the whole thing will change. | ||
| If they're just gonna sit there passively and take an invasion and El Paso is a lovely town and the people are great. | ||
| We built the first part of our wall down there and I fell in love with the place. | ||
| It's just an amazing people. | ||
| The town is very cool. | ||
| They're great, but they're under siege. | ||
| But they just invited, they just re-voted in the radical, one of the most radical Democrats about immigration in all Congress. | ||
| Do they get it now about what they want them to absorb, the punch that they want El Paso to take, sir? | ||
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Yes, Steve. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| The sentiment here with the locals and the word, the key term that they're using now is invasion. | ||
| Nonetheless, you're speaking about the structure that we built, the wall. | ||
| I was out there two days ago, and the International Boundary Water and Land Commission actually have chained open the sliding gate that you guys added to the structure. | ||
| They have it locked open, and so you're having people come in through that particular area as well now. | ||
| Now Governor Abbott sent the National Guard down here to the border, and they are in fact still at that place on the border. | ||
| But less than a mile west, less than a mile east from where they're actually at, Border Patrol is trickling in hundreds and hundreds of migrants at a time. | ||
| And this has not stopped adding to all of these people that are already out on the streets. | ||
| Now, a lot of these people that you see sleeping out on the streets are sleeping out there because they don't have any paperwork, meaning they went around the processing for border patrol. | ||
| They came into the country through other breach points, and then they found their way to infiltrate themselves in with the people who have been processed. | ||
| Now, yesterday and the day before, El Paso Police Department went around the neighborhood, taking down a lot of the tents that were being put up because it was beginning to be a safety concern and an issue. | ||
| But it just, they continue to come on in. | ||
| And now El Paso has popped up a facility, a soft-sided, what Mayorca calls a soft-sided facility. | ||
| On the outskirts of El Paso, on acres and acres of city land, where they are set to house at least 5,000. | ||
| 5,000. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Denver, you're doing an amazing job. | ||
| For our podcast and radio audience, this is why you got to get our email in the morning and get to our clips. | ||
| The footage is unbelievable. | ||
| You cannot believe this is an American city. | ||
| It is under, I've never seen scenes like this in my life in an American city. | ||
| You're used to seeing these maybe in third world cities. | ||
| Anthony, how can the people in El Paso stand this? | ||
| Why are they not standing up and say, Hey, this has got to stop. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| You may be going around saying invasion yet, but these things of what they've done to the great city of El Paso is quite frankly, breathtaking, sir. | ||
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The media does a fantastic job out here lying to the majority of the Latino community, unfortunately. | |
| And so their message resonates, that bleeding heart message resonates extremely, extremely tough with the Latino community down here. | ||
| But they're starting to see what the agenda is all about. | ||
| Okay, so for the Latino community and the Hispanic citizens community in El Paso, Texas, just listen to Posner at the beginning of our show. | ||
| Their plan is to impoverish you. | ||
| Their plan is to have total open borders and invasion to drive down wages. | ||
| The big problem, tell your fellow citizen there, Anthony, the big problem is the little money that you guys are making. | ||
| That's the problem with the entire United States economy. | ||
| That's the problem with inflation. | ||
| It's those wages, and their solution is the airline terminal in El Paso, Texas, the bus terminal in El Paso, Texas. | ||
| That's their solution. | ||
| A mass invasion of our country, and then they're going to have amnesty, and you guys will never get middle class wages, not just in your lifetime, but in your children's lifetime. | ||
| That's the plan, and that's what the oligarchs on Wall Street want, and the global corporations want, and the Chamber of Commerce wants, and you're just playing into their hands. | ||
| So if the media is that powerful down there, and you can't see what you see, there's gonna be no help. | ||
| I'm telling you, you're just not, you're not, you're not gonna do it until you get, when you guys flip, that's the beginning of a solution. | ||
| Anthony Aguero. | ||
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The media down here isn't out here showing the images that we're showing out to our audience this morning, Steve. | |
| Unfortunately, we are being completely overrun. | ||
| The local school districts are now opening schools and they're fixing them for the illegal aliens to go in there. | ||
| This aside from us already put the Civic Center for the migrants, the El Paso County Coliseum as well. | ||
| And aside from the new 5,000 capacity shelter that is being built, and constructed in which they're almost done with on the outskirts of El Paso. | ||
| They are planning a permanent structure in which they are up to possibly looking into housing 8,000 at a time in a permanent structure here in El Paso. | ||
| That's going to be started very, very soon. | ||
| Anthony, how do people get to your social media to follow all the footage you're putting up and the reporting you're doing all day for Real America's Voice? | ||
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You guys can follow me on YouTube at Anthony Aguero live. | |
| Follow me on Getter at Real Anthony, Truth Social, Real Anthony Aguero, and on Twitter at Aguero for Texas, sir. | ||
| Anthony, fantastic reporting, sir. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Look forward to having you back. | ||
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Appreciate you, Steve. | |
| Cortez, give me 30 seconds. | ||
| Until the Hispanic community and the African American community, working class people, wake up, you're just going to keep getting this, right? | ||
| Am I off base there? | ||
| No, that is correct, but that awakening has started. | ||
| It's got further to go, of course. | ||
| But it has started, thankfully. | ||
| We've got a lot of very brave Hispanic leaders now who have been elected, who are properly advocating for the Hispanic community and for all working-class Americans of any color or ethnicity, right, who are the most harmed by these open borders policies. | ||
| But, you know, what I want to talk about, too, if we can in the next break, is we do have levers. | ||
| It's not a hopeless situation, right, and the biggest one being the debt ceiling. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| Let's take a commercial break. | ||
| Steve Cortez joins us on his holiday and we really appreciate it. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Steve Cortez, I got Natalie Winters coming up. | ||
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| Shocking! | ||
| Shocking! | ||
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| Cortez, we've got leverage here. | ||
| We just have to have the will to use it. | ||
| What's that leverage, sir? | ||
| Yeah, and listen, we don't have enough options because of that abomination last week from GOP Senate who literally surrendered the political weapons that the people in the Republican Party possessed, but we are not out of weapons, thankfully. | ||
| And the significant weapon that we have, the political leverage, is the debt ceiling. | ||
| So the only good news out of that atrocity omnibus package, out of that exorbitant borrowing and spending, the only good news to come out of it, Steve, is that it has to be financed. | ||
| We don't have the money, okay? | ||
| We have to borrow the money. | ||
| To borrow the money means we need to, once again, as we've been doing for years, for decades, we need to increase the debt ceiling. | ||
| And therein lies the PowerPoint, okay, the leverage spot, the fulcrum spot for the incoming GOP House. | ||
| Now, will they have the guts to do it? | ||
| Well, they better. | ||
| And I think that that is job number one of the incoming speaker, whether it's Kevin McCarthy or somebody else, is to stand up to Joe Biden and to literally say, Joe Biden, if you and the White House want to shut down, and the shutdown would be on them, okay, if you want to shut down the U.S. | ||
| government, because we will not raise the debt ceiling unless you secure the border. | ||
| If you want to shut down the government to prioritize illegal aliens, illegal migrants who are trespassing, a human tsunami of migrants, unwelcome, unvetted migrants into this country, that is going to be on you. | ||
| We need to engage in that kind of brinkmanship. | ||
| And here's the brinkmanship, but here's how it's logical. | ||
| You don't increase the debt ceiling because cash comes in. | ||
| Remember, one of the reasons that we're going to have the opportunity to do this sooner than later is the collapse of tax revenues. | ||
| You saw that in November, the greatest month in the history of this country. | ||
| $250 billion deficit, a quarter of a trillion dollars in one month. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Spending higher, but the collapse of the tax revenues given the depression that we're in for working class people. | ||
| By the way, what a great time. | ||
| Depression, working class people. | ||
| I got a solution. | ||
| Let's bring in more working class people. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Why don't we do that? | ||
| This is terrific. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Great solution, elites. | ||
| But the waterfall. | ||
| The cash comes in every month. | ||
| You're getting tax revenues. | ||
| You're getting tariffs. | ||
| You're getting fees. | ||
| So all sources of revenue come in. | ||
| And then you have a waterfall. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| We planned for this in 17 when I left the White House. | ||
| We're going to go brinksmanship then and say, hey, we can get we don't need a debt ceiling increase. | ||
| We can we can keep this going. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| In the waterfall and whatever securities rollover get paid, right, or refinanced, you pay the interest payments. | ||
| So you don't affect the credit of the United States that gets paid. | ||
| That's the top of the cap table. | ||
| The second is the obligations you have in Social Security and Medicare, right? | ||
| Then you got, hey, Medicaid and discretionary spending. | ||
| Hey, you know, the cash we got covers it. | ||
| But things like Majorca, these things, and even part of the Defense Department. | ||
| Any money going to Ukraine? | ||
| How about this? | ||
| Zero. | ||
| People have to have their nose rubbed in the fact that we're broke. | ||
| And you can't keep this game going on, can you? | ||
| Cortez is just hitting the money. | ||
| Let's just create the money and put on more debt. | ||
| Is that the way to do it? | ||
| To force them to the table? | ||
| Whatever cash you got, you prioritize and let's see what your waterfall is. | ||
| After you pay the debt, after you pay the interest, after you pay Social Security, after you pay Medicare, we'll see what we've got left over. | ||
| Just like any household. | ||
| Is that essentially our theory of the case, sir? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And look, it actually makes great economic sense, as you're pointing out, but even more importantly than the economic side, which is crucial, is to save the country. | ||
| We have no border right now. | ||
| We have no sovereignty over our land. | ||
| If this invasion continues, we will not have a country By the end of the Biden term, because the pace is increasing. | ||
| And by the way, to that point, if we could show chart number one, I think this is important. | ||
| You showed some of the actual footage of the border, which is really important, but let's also show it numerically. | ||
| And this is from Customs and Border Patrol. | ||
| Unfortunately, the CBP data, they need to reset the Y axis, the vertical axis, because it keeps ratcheting higher. | ||
| I'm showing there 2020 versus 2021 versus 2022. | ||
| And now the highlighted part, the brand new part, Is this new year, 2023, we're already in that fiscal year, which we began in October. | ||
| So the worst October, the worst November ever at the United States border for apprehensions. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| And this does not count the gotaways. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is just actual encounters at the border. | ||
| So the situation is materially worsening by the month, and the gravity of the situation, I think, Steve, demands that the only really significant remaining pressure point left, which is the debt ceiling for the incoming GOP House, because unfortunately so much of their power was neutered by Mitch McConnell and Tom Cotton and the whole gang of Republican senators last week, because so much of their power was taken away. | ||
| The remaining power point, pressure point, Is the debt ceiling and they must use it and they must absolutely go to the mat and I think there have to be two demands one is Title 42 has to go to 100% enforcement. | ||
| 100%, not 30%. | ||
| Everyone turned away who's an economic migrant immediately using Title 42. | ||
| And then number two is internal, and you mentioned it before, is internal expulsions. | ||
| Deportations have effectively ceased under Joe Biden. | ||
| So Kevin McCarthy, or whoever the speaker is, I believe needs to say, here are metrics that you must meet regarding deportations. | ||
| We have to restart an effective ice that is actually working again in this country to deport people out of the United States. | ||
| To me, those would be the two demands, and if they're not met, then there's no debt ceiling increase. | ||
| And then to your point, leave it to Joe Biden and the White House and OMB to try to figure out how to pay the bills. | ||
| We know that the essential bills will be paid, but how to pay the discretionary bills? | ||
| How to pay it? | ||
| They're such big talkers. | ||
| They're writing unconstitutional executive orders every day. | ||
| Hey, okay guys, here's what the increase in the debt ceiling is going to be. | ||
| Here's what it is. | ||
| Wait for it. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Deal with what you got. | ||
| You're not putting any more debt on our children and grandchildren. | ||
| And it's now time for people to step up. | ||
| Step up. | ||
| Let's see who the players are. | ||
| Players make plays. | ||
| You win with players. | ||
| Players make plays. | ||
| Let's make some plays on this thing. | ||
| It's quite simple, and don't let them obfuscate. | ||
| I went through this exercise in 2017. | ||
| It's totally legal. | ||
| It's what has to happen. | ||
| The cash comes in, and you just have a waterfall, just like in any bankrupt company. | ||
| The cash comes in, and you prioritize your payments. | ||
| Here, you got the debt payments, you have the interest payments. | ||
| You're not going to affect the full faith and credit of the United States. | ||
| That's the lie they're going to tell you. | ||
| Steve Cortes, where do people get to you until you get back to the States, sir? | ||
| Yes, so please follow me on Getter, I'm at Steve. | ||
| And on Twitter, I'm at CortesSteve, Cortes with an S. Steve Cortes, thank you for taking so much time away today. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
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